Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 13 May 2021

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Okay good morning it is may 13th thursday may 13th uh open session and just a reminder on.

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Tuesday, in the afternoon, we will have another open session dealing with our budget.

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uh First and foremost appreciate the community's. um You know thoughts and insight. uh The other.

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Night and uh we will take everything that was shared and continue to be shared under.

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uh Consultation and uh you know discussion as we continue our budget before open.

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Session, as always, let's stand for um pledge of allegiance and then take a moment of silence.

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Afterwards of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands.

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One nation, under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Okay, we have uh a handful of things to do for priority carol. Let's uh go around.

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The room first and then we'll hit some uh of the highlights with priority care with uh some guests.

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That will be joining us. So, let's start with um commissioner lance what I get to start today. You.

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Get to start, you are number one good. Take your lead district one take the lead, take the lead.

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uh Good morning, everyone real brief. I'm gonna be brief this morning, so there you go uh two things.

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I want to point out this week: uh it's national hospital week and you'll hear more about that.

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Shortly, along with something else, there's a week and a day for everything, you got to keep track.

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Of all that so uh and yesterday was actually national school nurse day, so uh I happened.

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To be very close to a school nurse, so I know the importance of what they bring to the table.

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And bring to our youth- and you know there are jurisdictions that don't have a school nurse.

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In every school, but we and carol are lucky that we do and uh they're a very important part of.

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Of the education system, so I want to give a shout out to them and you might hit this one dick. I.

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Don't want to take your thunder, uh but I we've been losing a lot of prominent folks in carroll.

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Here uh lately and um I want to give thoughts, condolences uh to the family of nevin tasteo.

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Who I got to know several years ago and uh what an incredible guy- and I know that.

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You're going to expand on that dick, because you've known him longer than I have so I'll.

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I'll turn that over to you- but I just want to give my my sympathies to uh to his family.

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uh Another pillar of carroll county that has left us far too soon, so um I've got other stuff.

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But we'll wait till we get to that so I'll, pass it off. Okay, um yeah! You uh alluded to uh losing.

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uh Nevin tasto up in that uh northern part of the county. uh I guess I've known evan, since we were 14.

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uh Years of age, I was anyway, he was a few years older, but you know he was one of those people.

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Who never said a mean word about anyone? If you talk to him, you were the most important person.

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In every conversation he ever had no matter who it was when it was. uh You were very important.

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To him- and I I think he was in the paper- they alluded to him as a good old boy, and he was he.

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Just lived that lifestyle uh his whole family's that way, they're just really super nice people.

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He helped tens of thousands of people throughout his lifetime and uh really.

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Made a living as an auctioneer, but he was uh phenomenal and the people he met.

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Probably one of the most honest people, uh if not the most honest person, I've ever known.

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And uh it was uh a shame to see passed away uh at a young age but uh uh steve. I appreciate your.

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uh Recognizing uh the fact that you know he uh was such a pillar of the community.

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And I I just wish everybody had his demeanor in the way they handled things. The fact that he never.

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You know he would help, but he never criticized anyone for anything and uh there's something.

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To be said for that, and I uh admired him greatly for what he did and to his family.

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Continue the work that he started because he has a tremendous family and extended family and they.

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Had the same mentality he did and to his wife, I uh wish her the best here and she.

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Is uh basically the same as nevin just a fantastic person? So thank you well said, commissioner. Frasier.

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Thank you, I have to say I bought a lot of things from heaven over the years.

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Through the auctions- and he was a always had a smile on his face- never gave me a discount.

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Did you buy the back end of the pizza? That's another story, never mind.

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That's another story for another day all right, and um I want to say this past week they had.

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The westminster flower and jazz festival- now it wasn't on main street, it was in a parking lot.

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It's beside the parking garage didn't have food vendors there, but they had it pretty well attended.

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In the morning I went twice because I told my wife I was going in the morning. She didn't want.

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To go when I get back, she says: well, why don't we go? I've already been there, but okay. So a couple.

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Hours later went back again, so it was pretty well attended. It was I'm just happy that they had it.

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They had you know, I know, that's not a complaint, though that you went twice say it again. That's.

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Not a complaint that you, no, it's not no! No. I enjoy walking around with my wife the second time and I.

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Mean, but it was, though we had it. It was a big it's a step forward. It's another step out of this.

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The cobic thing also, I believe, all the municipal elections over by this time. I believe they are. I.

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Want to congratulate all the winners and if you didn't win, but you ran, I want to thank you for.

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That, because it takes a lot to put to put yourself out there to run so I do. I do appreciate that.

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We also had a transit advisory council meeting chris swann was there.

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Talked about improving the website for trans advisory council. Great! It's great to have an.

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Expert here to talk about this stuff, because you know you look at this thing and it doesn't look.

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Great, but we have someone here that actually knows how to make it better. It's a great job.

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Chris also talked about ridership ridership on the on-demand service is actually up. 66 percent.

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From what it was one a year ago at this point, so it's going back up now, ridership on the.

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Trailblazer routes are still down about 10, but you have to remember also that, like carroll community.

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College, a lot of doctors, offices and so forth. They're not fully opened yet and that's where.

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A lot of the ridership came from, but it is improving so that that's another good thing.

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One last thing on on uh may 24th: remember what month we're in may 24th it's a monday uh there's.

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A bike ride that I'll be participating in starts at the uh race pace in westminster.

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Goes to union bridge and back I originally told it was going to be 20 mile ride, so I've been trying.

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To get shade for but now it's like it's a 24 mile ride, I don't know, but I'm going to give it a try.

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But anyway, registration is open, call carroll, county rec department to try to to register.

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If we understand it's free, if you want to get a bike ride in on that morning, you get to beat me.

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In the bike ride, it's something to look forward to and that's all I have. Okay thanks, commission.

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Morning, gentlemen, commissioner, fraser, I appreciate you advocating public health and getting out and.

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Exercising this wonderful thing, especially as we become epic citizens, I want to add to the praise.

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Of school nurses that commissioner williamson brought up, I remember when I was in high.

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School I had a broken nose and that school nurse stopped the bleeding stepped my nose up straight.

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Got me off to the hospital and never forget her help. She was really reassuring.

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And over this pandemic, they've been under a lot of stress, so we praise everything. They've done.

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I want to add to commissioner fraser frazier's recognition before we get into the wetlands. I just.

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Want to real quick recognize uh mayor elect pecker in westminster. She made a historical.

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Accomplishment this week being the first female elected to westminster, mayor along.

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With congratulating uh councilman elect hoff, he's served on our playing zoning commission.

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For years, so he's a wonderful addition. I wish all the people across the board and all those.

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Municipalities have won and ran welcome aboard and we look forward to serving and working with.

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You in their capacity as county officials now on the joshua. We had a tour this week. If mr swamp.

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Can bring up the photos he there we go, that is director dackets and I out at hoshival lake.

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I don't know if it's much of a lake more like a pond to me, but it's absolutely gorgeous out there.

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He gave me a tour of the walkway we're getting grant funding to replace the walkways, which.

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Have deteriorated once I went there and examine it and see what's going on, we do.

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Have a major liability ford's missing popping up part of the walkways sinking into the marsh.

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It's absolutely gorgeous out there and during our tour we've seen turtles we've seen a blue herring.

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We've seen frogs geese, it's so beautiful out there. There you go, I decided to do the dude.

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Move since the dude was filming us, it's absolutely wonderful resource. We have out there in the county.

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A lot of people don't know about, I believe it might be in commissioner williams's district.

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If so, I ventured up there about his permission, had a wonderful day and advise as many people.

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As possible get out and utilize all the assets we have in this county, so thank you very much.

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Okay and uh just add a couple things.

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The the governor did speak yesterday. We do have a press release. That's going out today.

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Sharing his directives on how we're moving forward the reason we are moving forward is.

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Because we're doing what's right, the vaccinations, the masks and appropriate actions and activities.

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Associated with the pandemic, so I applaud our carroll county community um by doing what's.

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Right and we will get out of this and get to uh levels of normalcy, we're moving that direction so.

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Continue to do the right thing and look forward to progressing as time moves on um this weekend.

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I saw I guess it was on national news. There were nine multiple shootings uh in like a 24-hour.

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Period on like saturday to sunday, it's across the country- and it's just it's crazy- um this week is.

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National police week may 9th through 15th the best two words you can say are. Thank you.

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uh The sheriff and his team, along with the municipalities and the police departments,.

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Within carroll, county are just doing a great job, and people are here because of the safety.

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And security that they provide- and uh you know the quality of life that they allow us to have.

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By doing the right things, so uh you see someone in uniform whether it's an sro in the schools.

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Whether it's somebody on the streets, just you know, I encourage you to say thank you and from.

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Me to them and to the sheriff. Thank you so much for all that. You're doing now, let's move on.

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And commissioner wants I'd like you to take the lead on this there's a joint proclamation.

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And I believe uh garrett hoover, who is the president of the carroll hospital.

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Center, along with bob mccoy, should also be available. I see bob. Do I see garrett mr hoover.

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Do we know if he's on.

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Commissioner, I'd like to check and see if one of these callers is him.

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Just real quick, if you don't mind, I don't mind.

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We have three callers online or any of you, uh mr garrett hoover.

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Are anyone involved with this proclamation.

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Apparently, not uh celine mowry. No, I don't see her either. No, I did send him an invitation. Yesterday.

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Okay, well, let let's move forward with the with the proclamation. I appreciate.

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Commissioner, lance, if you take the lead on this yeah, I was just talking to garrett.

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Yeah so anyway, if I look like commissioner weaver for the next couple minutes.

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It it he as he would say it's a it's. A big improvement.

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As only he would say, uh by the way, I missed one thing for priority carol with this.

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This gas shortage, or or whatever they are calling it the perception of the cat yeah people need to.

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Simmer down a little bit and I'm coming at it from a public safety standpoint, uh gasoline is only.

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Allowed to be put in your vehicle or an approved container, so the state fire marshal actually had.

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To put a statement out because people were putting it in tupperware containers and everything else.

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I mean come on. People just need to calm down it's going to be back to normal by the end of the week.

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So that's actually tomorrow or by the weekend at the latest, so.

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You're putting first responders in harm's way if you've got gasoline in.

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Containers in your vehicle, when you get into an accident somewhere, so common sense, people.

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Remember that excuse me before I apologize go ahead, one second, oh so the hospital's contacted.

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Us unfortunately, something's come up and is to detain them from joining us today. Okay,.

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Okay, they apologize and look like us all right. That's fine, thanks! Okay! uh So anyway,.

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uh You interrupted my thunder about gasoline come on anyway, I was on a roll anyway. uh Folks get the.

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Word out uh approved containers in your vehicle. Only okay, now back to get looking like weaver.

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Good good, good, okay, all right, we've got a proclamation here. This is actually national.

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Hospital week it's also ems week and we've got a proclamation and I'm going to read it right now.

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um Ems week to designate the week of may 16th through the 22nd as emergency medical.

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Services week, emergency medical services is a vital public service in carroll.

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The members of ems teams are ready to provide life-saving care to those in need. 24 hours a day.

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Seven days a week and access to quality, emergency care dramatically improves the survival.

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And recovery rate of those who experience sudden illness or injury.

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Emergency medical services has grown up to fill a gap by providing important out-of-hospital.

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Care including preventative medicine, follow-up care and access to telemedicine.

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Ems system consists of first responders emts paramedics, dispatchers firefighters, police.

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Officers, educators, administrators pre-hospital nurses, emergency nurses, emergency physicians,.

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Trained members of the public and other out of hospital medical care providers, the members of.

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Ems teams, whether career or volunteer, engage in thousands of hours of specialized training.

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And continuing education to enhance their life saving skills, so it is appropriate to recognize.

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The value and accomplishments of ems providers by designating emergency medical services week.

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And that's just what we have done with this proclamation and the five of us have signed this.

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Along with the president and ceo of carroll hospital- and that is mr garrett hoover so.

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Unless you've been under a rock for the last six and a half years, you all know how I am with.

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Ems. Thank you. I appreciate that now I'll get back to not being able to see uh so you know.

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This is something that I've been involved in since the the late 70s, and I think it's very.

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Important to recognize all the folks around here that do this for us and it's also important to.

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Recognize the fact that we have a great partner with lifebridge health carol hospital center is.

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Amazing they've been amazing over the last 13 14 months with this pandemic, and also to realize that.

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Not only do we have the lifebridge family, but we've got the university of maryland family.

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We have the best trauma system in the world right next door to us. We are so lucky to be living in.

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The delmarva area that we have access to that and countless lives have been saved and I applaud.

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And appreciate my colleagues, uh helping with making sure that we are providing funding for.

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Education for the shock trauma system uh moving forward in this in beginning with the fy 22 budget,.

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So to everyone out there, on ambulances every single day and on fire engines and in nurses and.

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Hospitals, thank you so very much for all that you do for us and this proclamation yeah right here.

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uh Commissioner williamson, I had the privilege of interviewing a person for a board and commission.

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Here and he moved back from delaware because of our medical system here yeah, he didn't remember.

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Right along the lines of what you're saying, yeah so yep, so it's uh it's amazing what we.

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Have right here and we're very lucky to have it uh the resources that we have so.

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Okay, thank you to everyone. uh You want me to turn it over to this. This is this dude on.

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Here named mccoy, because uh you know, we've seen him a little bit here in the last few months.

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Director director mccoy good morning and you're muted good morning, everyone.

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Yeah, I appreciate being able to join you. I just want to convey also my congratulations.

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My thank you and my respect for all of our ems providers in our health care partners, area.

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Hope everyone recognizes the uh the efforts of the our emergency medical services providers next week.

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During ems week, so I appreciate it. Okay, thank you. I think uh I think scott's on here too.

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Is he uh scott yeah, because I think we've got something coming up with you next.

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So scott, would you like to uh share some words? Thank you, commissioners, unexpected and the first.

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Thing I'm going to say, I think the recognition is extremely well deserved, um as some of you.

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Know I spent basically most of my adult life in the in the volunteer side on it. So I've seen it.

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From from, uh unfortunately, from both sides from needing the service, also providing the service.

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So I can't say enough other than thank you and it's critically critically important and I think.

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The recognition is very well deserved, so thank you for the opportunity to say a couple words.

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Absolutely- and I think this is a a good strong theme going from the national police week as.

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Discussed earlier into this, uh it is those wearing the red and blue, and also those serving in our.

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Ambulances- and uh you know in the hospitals that give that selfless service. You know to make us.

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Who we are so um with that? Does anybody have any comments they want to share at this time?.

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Let's move on uh scott, um I believe you have a recognition that you want to provide mr campbell.

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Thank you, commissioners, and actually this is a perfect segue, um as commissioner wayne said,.

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I believe you mentioned that uh our dispatchers are part of that of that ems system. They are a.

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Critically important part, as you will hear in just a couple of minutes, so commissioners, thanks for.

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The opportunity to join you today and I have to say it's our distinct pleasure to be here because.

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We're here to recognize the evidence as one of one of the many dedicated women and and men, that.

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Staff, our emergency vacation center, the 911 center, as is commonly referred to 24 7 365.

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Now I firmly believe, although everything that these uh women and men do is very important.

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Sometimes an incident will occur that seems to rise above that that normal level, uh that is just.

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Exemplifies just how critically important their efforts can be at some times, and it's it's. It's.

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A fact it's often a matter of life versus death, so today we're here to recognize one of our dedicated.

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Employees, ms donna, although for her unwavering efforts during one such incident now that goes.

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Out saying that miss altoff is well respected uh by by all her peers, uh folks, that she volunteers.

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With etc and is clearly one of one of our uh hard working professionals that helps staff the.

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911 center and candidly, we are both thankful and very fortunate to have her as part of our team. So.

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Commissioners at this time, instead of getting into the detail, I would like to see you see. We also.

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Have uh some other folks with us that are joining us? I think they're under the title, ashley bergen.

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um I'd like to turn things over to mr jack brown and miss ashley bergen uh jack is the emergency.

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Communications manager and ashley is one of our emergency communications assistant managers and.

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They're going to introduce some special guests, we have and then give you some details of exactly why.

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We recognize ms althoff so with that commissioners, if I can yield to ashley jack and their guests.

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Good morning, commissioners, on the morning of march 11, emergency communications, specialist.

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Donna althoff answered a 911 call from mr owens, who we have here with us today. He stated his.

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Wife was not responding and not breathing by using the emergency medical protocols.

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That our staff are trained in ecs altoff was able to immediately get help started.

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And assist mr owens with performing cpr and his wife. These quick actions show the.

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Exemplary work that our communications staff perform every day as the first first responders.

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We don't often know the outcome of a call and are very grateful for mr owens reaching out to us and.

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Letting us know the immense impact ucf althoff had that day. So with us. Today we have mr owens and.

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Tandy, who, thanks to the dedicated work of mr owens and ucs ulta tammy, gets to be here with us today.

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And jack brown, real quick, is going to give ms altoff an award for her actions. That day.

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I'm sure it's hard to see with the uh through the camera representing uh donald talk with the.

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In recognition of your dedication and commitment, while performing your duties on march, 11.

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With the thanks and appreciation of all that live, work and visit uh carroll county maryland,.

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And I'll be presenting this to ms, although thank you, commissioners, if I may, I want to interject.

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Something that I think just adds to how just how impressive this is just a side story. I had the.

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Pleasure of being a prior customer of glam awards engraving here in westminster, you know uh my fire.

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Service days, so I was aware of their offerings and the kind of quality work they did. So I reached out.

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To them in search of an appropriate award uh for miss althoff, and I have to share out of sheer.

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Dumb luck on my behalf, no no none other than the owner himself! Mr john john lamb answered the.

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The phone when I called and candidly the incident mr lam uh learned why I was calling he insisted he.

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Was going to provide that award at no cost to us? I shared with the gentleman when he made the offer.

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That we could not accept, you know the very generous offer, but we just couldn't accept.

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Something like that and he said um you're not asking for it- I'm offering, I insist so to be quite.

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Candid, that award was not only designed by but provided gratis by mr john lamb, who is obviously.

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A very important member of the community, both personally as well as a member of the business.

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Community here in carroll, so I apologize commissioners, but I just thought that that.

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Warranted a public acknowledgement and a thank you for his generosity. We didn't ask for anything. He.

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Extended that, as just another example of the kind of generosity recognition of of the folks that.

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Were pleasured to work with, so thank you, no scott, thank you and thank you for uh adding that piece.

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As well again, we got an awesome community um like uh let's go around. If anybody has any comments.

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You'd like to share well, um the whole story brings tears to my eyes and and donna to you.

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I've known you for quite a while. uh Thank you so much for all that you you do over there you're.

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You're, an amazing individual, just like all the folks that you work with over there. So thank you.

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And uh mr owings well done uh that that I can tell you from being on both sides of of this.

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Giving and- and I also was a dispatcher for about 12 years here in carroll- uh to be blunt, it ain't.

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Easy listening to instructions over the phone and providing uh that kind of of of technique.

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uh And, and so to you also thank you uh for what you have accomplished here and it's great to see.

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That young lady standing beside you that was able to visit here today, so thank you.

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Thank you all so very much this is, this is what it's. This is what ems and the system is all about.

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The three of you standing there. Thank you very much well said, commissioner. Weaver.

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Donna a fantastic job. I can't even imagine going through that and doing what you do.

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In those situations, so a great deal of admiration for what what you do and how you did that. But.

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I, as I said, I have no uh background in that, but.

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Boy uh to talk through something like that is uh is amazing, so thank you, commissioner. Frazier.

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Did we get her a raise, we're we're working on that miss drawings, we're working on it.

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I just want to say thanks for what you do, but I also want to say the system works. The 911 system.

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And emergency dispatchers that works. That's why I think we have stories like this. If we didn't.

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Have this up and running, it would just be tragic outcomes. So, thank you very much for you for what.

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You're doing, and thanks for the you know, I can't thank the system, but the system works and that and.

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That's what the I guess the keynote from this, this takeaway is the takeaway, for this is yes very well.

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Said, commissioner boucher? Mr always, I appreciate the humor, you know we're also blessed and we deal.

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With a lot of stress, especially that department, so this team coming together making this happen.

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Is a wonderful blessing, it's a testament to the resources and the people. We have working 24.

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7, as director campbell has stated, and as someone who's called 9-1-1 before, I know how desperate.

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It is and helpless you feel and have those reassuring, professional voices at the other end.

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Defuses things, and they start talking to you, you can you can realize real quickly, their training.

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Kicks in training training training, I hear it all the time and it works and those voices on.

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The other end calm you down and get you moving in the right direction, so they are a blessing.

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I'm very grateful to everyone over there and everything they do and bless you and your family.

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For many more years together, take care. Thank you. Thank you. I think um you know I shared you know.

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We should, as a community, have confidence in the system. As commissioner fraser said, it works the.

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Three words: I heard you share: scott um is perform your duties and that's really cool. It's not above.

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And beyond, it's performing your duties, so that is really what it's all about and we should all have.

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Confidence that they know how they, your team, knows how to perform their duties. uh So thank you um and.

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As commissioner wentz shared it's really nice seeing that couple standing right there.

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And for many more years to come, so thanks. Thank you, commission. Thank you very much.

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Okay, um ashley did you have uh anything you want to share or they're.

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Gone, I guess not. That's. Okay,.

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Okay, let's, uh let's move on to uh celebrating america, we got jeff cassaway coming on. I believe.

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There you are- and you want to talk about that lovely young lady, miss natalie in front of you.

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I, if, if I got a setup here, if you will, oh, you do got yep I'll set it up. I'll set the stage.

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And then we'll go from there. Okay. um Is that a pink shirt casting away just check? Yes, it is.

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Just for you yeah, okay! Well, I've often said that real men do wear pink uh anyway. uh What national.

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History day winner uh natalie castingway won the celebrating america commissioner's prize for local.

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National history day, competition held in march, 2021., ed, you and I have been to the homestead.

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A couple times, and- and so were you dennis- you were up there too, um but I used to go up there.

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With another fella that used to have your seat and celebrate national history day so hopefully.

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We can get back to that next year, looking forward because that's a great event and a shout out to.

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Our own vivian daly for making sure that all that works, because she does an amazing job. National.

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History day is a nationwide program held annually that involves more than a half a million students.

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There are local state and national competitions, it provides an excellent opportunity to develop.

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Primary and secondary research skills students choose a historical topic related to that year's.

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Specific theme, which is communication in history presentations, may take the form of a paper.

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Exhibit performance documentary or website the 2021 national history day theme was.

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As I said, communication in history, the key to understanding so uh natalie uh won the award. The.

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Carroll county commissioner award the criteria for that award for entries. The criteria is for.

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Entries whose research and presentation celebrates the contributions of a local individual group.

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Or organization, or encourages a greater understanding of american history and historically.

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Significant people, events and places, particularly those within carroll and or the state of maryland,.

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And natalie's project was an individual website and her topic was union mills homestead rural.

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Free delivery. So congratulations to natalie. I know um the the geek that boucher is about.

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History, which, I must say, I'm kind of right there with him. uh History is incredibly important.

C

And uh for these young people to be able to take these kind of themes and turn them into these.

C

Projects are amazing, so natalie well done. I'm sure that you got all of your talent from your mother.

A

So natalie can you uh share with us.

A

Natalie, can you share with us um why you selected that topic and some of the highlights.

O

I chose um the project because I really enjoy learning and researching more about union males.

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Because I first started learning about it in third grade um when we read a book about union males.

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And so I've always been interested and I also volunteer there. So I wanted to do a history day.

O

Project on union mills was there something that you uh found out that you didn't know before.

A

In doing a project yeah, it was actually one of the first um rural free deliveries to in the country.

O

And it was it's like they started trying they did kind of like a trial in 1896.

O

And then they officially it officially began, began on december 20th of 1899. wow sounds like you got.

A

A lot of information- and I really appreciate the work you did. uh Congratulations from all of us.

A

um In receiving this uh award is there some else? Others would like to share commission weaver.

D

uh I I just think this: well, you were there in 1896 weren't, you not quite okay, not quite.

C

A year later, yeah you're off by a year now don't pay attention to these guys. uh But look I I.

D

Commend you on writing your paper and I hope uh the school recognizes uh uh the accomplishments.

D

You've done- and I hope your grade and history went way up. uh It probably was already there, but.

D

I I really uh commend you for writing this, and uh especially with union mills and uh where we.

D

Are in carroll county so keep up the good work and what what's going to be your major in college.

O

I'm not sure, okay, okay, you got a few years to go yeah. Well, I've got a few years to go, but.

D

It's never too young to start thinking about it. uh So uh good luck to you and, uh as uh I think.

D

Commissioner, wants alluded to your mother had a great influence on you fisher. I just want to.

E

Say: congratulations! Great job. um I know you're somewhat disappointed that you had to get this.

E

The certificate from your father instead of one of the commissioners, because that uses a highlight.

E

If you give it to the commissioner but great job and keep up the good work, okay, commission, boucher.

F

That's casting away we're all very proud of you, but your father, I'm sure, is esthetically, proud of.

F

You we love working father, he's very intelligent, so obviously he's past that alone to you.

F

And I believe you'll figure out real quickly that those of us who understand history.

F

Can navigate the future so you're understanding history of young age, because I'll give you a leg.

F

Up on a lot of your competitors out there, and if you keep it up, maybe one day you can help run.

F

The county government, like your father, so thank you very much for all your hard work. It pays off.

A

Okay, once again, thank you very much natalie and congratulations.

A

For the hard work that you put into this project, so, okay, let's uh move on.

A

To the meat of our open session- and I believe we should have ms eisenberg and uh price come on.

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For an introduction and request to go to public hearing on water and sewer.

A

In the spring amendment is that correct? um Actually, it is the public hearing this morning.

A

Yeah, oh, it is the public hearing this morning, yeah the second time. I've done this yeah, okay,.

A

Mr burke, good morning, commissioners, uh the environment article uh requires you.

P

To have a public hearing when you make any amendments to our water and sewer master plan.

P

And it's spring so it's time for the spring amendments to the water and sewer master plan.

P

You advertise at the notice of public hearing in the carroll county times on april 29th.

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And may 6th this year with us. As you said, our director of planning, linda eisenberg,.

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And price wagner from the department of planning they are here to give you a brief.

P

Introduction of the proposed amendments and to take any questions you may have.

K

All right good morning, commissioners, um as mr burke said chris wagner this morning, we'll be.

K

Giving you a presentation just to refresh your memory on what the public hearing will.

K

Be addressing today and the amendments to the 2021 uh water and sewer master plans.

K

With that phrase, if you'd like to share your screen and present the changes for today, I.

B

Appreciate it, thank you linda. Yes, I've had the ability to share my screen. Please have a.

B

Brief presentation just sort of a recap of what we talked about a couple weeks ago. You got it.

B

Okay, so sort of basically what we talked about a couple weeks ago. This is the spring amendment for.

B

The 2021 spring a minute to the 2019 water sewer master plan working with freedom of sykesville.

B

Water and sewer service areas, as well as the manchester uh water surface area. Those are the.

B

Map amendments, um basically in the freedom area, we have three amendments that are being requested.

B

7414 grangel's road, the owner now uh contacted me and he is now working by himself for a little bit.

B

On this, but still wants to move forward, the owner is looking to subdivide his property, which would.

B

Add three new lots, plus his existing parcels so or his existing house you'll be adding three.

B

Units to the water sewer system going to priority so they'd be adding a thousand gallons.

B

To the system so four units times the 250 gallons per unit multiplier.

B

The barcelo road properties, the engineer on behalf of the property owner they're.

B

Looking they want to remove from the freedom's priority service area due to the fact that.

B

They're looking to develop and it's cost prohibitive for them to actually construct a.

B

Pump station which they would need to get to gravity the gravity flow, so they can actually.

B

Get the gravity flow, the potential for this property is 10 units, because this bait is.

B

The size of the property with the bli 10 potential units um that would be 2, 500 gallons.

B

They actually are only going to be doing four units on subject. That is a update I have received.

B

I believe I emailed that to you a couple weeks ago, but I have a slide on that showing their.

B

Potential for four units, obviously being as a septic minor, they could do seven.

B

I believe the way the lay of the land and the way it is looked at on the plan you'll see four is.

B

Not the only thing is about all they can do uh and then second the thirdly sideshow annexation. There.

B

Are four three properties that are looking to be brought into not brought into they're already.

B

Currently, in existing summers, some were split, existing and future, and one is just future itself.

B

This will make them existing in priority, and so it's just moving that allocation from the future.

B

To the priority aspect of it, so here's the part of the low road, the existing house and then like.

B

I said they're looking to potentially put in three additional units. They do subdivision the existing.

B

Gravity flow line is right here, adjacent to the property to be relatively easy connection.

B

This is the bartholo road property there is line. There are lines in the vicinity.

B

These are gravity lines, these are gravity and pressurized line. However,.

B

This is downgraded from the gravity lines, and this is the actual pump station here, so they would need.

B

To put a pump station in if they stayed on sewer to get it to this area, that is tall, prohibitive.

B

For the the owners so they're looking to again be removed from the service area and go to.

B

No planned service, hey price. Let me just pause you for a second. Would that.

A

Help the water um on johnsville ave up by the school, uh where the water stays.

A

You know on johnsville by the sidewalk, there's, usually a large amount after rains. Would this.

A

You know allow for a better flow of that water or or no there's completely. This is a little.

B

Bit further away from john joe avenue yeah, so it's actually closer towards the cleese mill.

B

Sector of the barclay, where marshall road is oh, I saw the fields. I thought that was johnsville no.

A

Okay, so here is sorry here: here's the the potential schematic of how they would do their.

B

The subdivision of the four properties, I think the main reason they're only able to get four.

B

Is you'll see an area here, that's they're not able to do any uh additional land because they need to.

B

Have a primary plus two secondary four septic, so this takes up. This property is a lot larger.

B

Because they have this area, so they need to have the ability to potentially put in the secondary.

B

So they're looking to do just four units on this particular property.

B

And then in sykes build this is the annexation they're looking to annex in this portion right.

B

Here this is the petitioner is letter a and, however, when they brought this in they're. Also.

B

The towns they wanted, they decided we need to bring in you know, just they don't really know.

B

Why it's split property via split might as well bring c in to make it a more cohesive. So this.

B

Is existing sewer as well as this, and then this will just be bringing in the second portion.

B

Into priority, and then this will be yes, you see, the line is already running through.

B

The the actual um parcel so it'll be going from future to priority.

B

There is the allocation, demand is already calculated in our future aspect.

B

Being zone conservation, uh property, a is zone conservation, only five units are.

B

Going to be are allowed to be built, and that is all they're looking to do. Is five units.

B

So as you as a overall on a bigger map, bartholo road is up here. This is the.

B

Section of bartholo road, um you guys, here's the sykes building johnsville is right down.

B

In this area, but here's the section of bartholo road, here's the portion.

B

In sight spill and then of course, then here is the brangle's road potential subdivision.

B

Again, this will be adding just a little bit of actually it will be a negative capacity, because.

B

There's 2500 gallons coming out and potentially only five or uh a thousand gallons going in so.

B

We're gaining roughly potentially 1500 gallons of against. You know against our capacity, so our.

B

Capacity, our total demand goes down a little bit uh in the priority in future years. 1500 gallons.

B

Now for the water amendment, this is based in west in manchester and the same three.

B

Properties in the sykesville area, the main one is 2906 hanover pike, and this is right across from.

B

The high school manchester valley high, they have worked with the health department and.

B

In talks with the town they're outside the town limits, the town does not serve uh properties.

B

Outside their town limits, although there's as you see, the line is right in front of the property.

B

And the cost to annex in as well as connection to water and to the sewer aspect, I'm sorry to the.

B

Water is hot prohibited for the owner. We worked at the health department. The town had requested.

B

For them to be removed and the health department did sign off back in january uh for them to go.

B

Ahead and dig a new well, the wellness on the property now is, as understanding was more of a.

B

Hand dug well, that's probably not the correct term, but that's what sort of relays you need.

B

So they're looking to update they're putting you well in so they can actually rent this property.

B

Out because it is a rental property for the uh the owners of the property, that's where.

B

They're helping their retirement aspect so again, just taking it out and be put in the long range.

B

Should for whatever reason down the road if the property's ever sold.

B

Then and again ever gets annexed in yes, they may be able to go back in sooner or.

B

Later you hear the same: the properties of sites, though again existing the light blue, is future.

B

Just moving everything in so these will stay existing and then the portion of this light.

B

Blue will move to priority so that those demands will just move from the future into priority.

B

In the same area as you down here in the cycle area, which is sort of the only area, that's.

B

Not within priority or existing for the talent and again, the demand is just in essence showing coming.

B

From the future planning to the priority planning so that just showing that demand moving in court.

B

Is cumulative so the future does not that plan who's playing ever do not move. These numbers go up.

B

A little bit just showing that that demand is now being moved over to the priority planning section.

B

So we've completed the updates to the water sewer maps of you know the calculations and the.

B

Certifications of consistency by both the county and the town, we have not received any comments.

B

Physical or paper comments, yet mvp has told me yesterday they did send their comments to nve.

B

And they had no major concerns of of this amendment and envy. In my contacts with mbe have.

B

Not said anything that that showed any red flags that was, you know they would advise us not to move.

B

Forward so at this point in time we are looking good to you know. Once the public hearing has been.

B

Completed and closed and then you know the record statement for 10 days, then the next step would be.

B

For the county commission, I come for you again to discuss a decision in the adoption of a resolution.

B

On may 27th and then I would forward the final copy to mde for approval on may 28th or the.

B

Following monday, depending on you know the timing of things, so my staff recommendation after a.

B

Reduced more discussion is move that the board of county commissioners once the public hearing has.

B

Has commenced close the public hearing and keep the record open for a period of 10 days.

P

Commissioners, do you have any questions of staff? If you have no questions, it's.

P

Appropriate, mr president, to open the floor to any uh public comment that we may have.

A

Do we have any public comment.

G

Caller one you're on muted, please make your public comment. Thank you.

Q

I don't know if I'm caller one or not, but this is kelly shaffer. Am I caller one chris.

G

Yes, you are kelly. Go ahead thanks! Good morning, commissioners, kelly shaffer.

Q

73 east main street westminster, maryland 21157. I am calling in in a support of.

Q

Staff's recommendation, I represent sykesville development llc, who is james and karen roth.

Q

They are the owners of property, a that is shown on the staff report, that price just presented.

Q

Just as quick background, they have already initiated an annexation petition with the town.

Q

Which is currently under county review that petition requests that the zoning stay, the.

Q

Same as it currently is, which is conservation as price said, that means this. Has this pr property.

Q

A has a five lot potential. um I just wanted to briefly note that property a is owned by.

Q

My client properties, b and c on that map are under separate ownership, but are also.

Q

Part of the annexation petition and um the roth and six field development, llc uh support staff.

Q

Recommendation for all the reasons that price stated um but I'll call out just specifically.

Q

That this property has already been accounted for from a capacity standpoint and is shown half.

Q

In and half out of, both the uh town, corporate limits and the water and sewer service areas.

Q

So this exercise is necessary to bring the entire property into the service area and um by my.

Q

Client's analysis and our engineers analysis: this property is not suitable for well in septic, so.

Q

That we appreciate fast recommendation to bring this property into the service area, which would.

Q

Actually allow it to have that lot potential and we are asking that the commissioners approve the.

Q

Amendment as presented by staff, so if there are any questions, I'm available to answer them, but.

Q

That's my brief statement, so thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. Miss shafer, any questions.

A

Okay, any other callers caller two you've been unmuted. Please make your public comment.

G

G

Polar two: please make your public comment. You have three minutes.

G

All right, let's try caller three.

G

Caller three you've been unmuted. Please make your public comment and identify yourself.

G

Caller three you've been unmuted.

P

Anybody else going to miss these virtual hearings. It is frustrating yeah. Well, I'm.

G

Assuming they might be on for other uh agenda items thanks. No, I appreciate that chris, but.

A

I wanna I wanna at least a a bit of a level of confidence that they are.

A

um Callers that are online. Are you here for this public hearing.

L

Hi, I am here, are you calling for this public hearing.

R

I was probably talking about harry correct, okay, it's your opportunity to make public comment.

G

Regarding this, please state your name, I'm not referring to the agenda topic. No, I'm waiting.

R

For the open agenda for public comment, oh at the end of the end of session okay, thank you.

G

Caller three: are you calling for public comment or for the public hearing.

S

I'm here for the public comments, you're, also calling at the end for the agenda. Okay, thank.

G

You well, I apologize. She said public comment, public comment for this or public comment for open.

A

Session are you calling for public comment during open session? Okay. Thank you. I apologize. Okay with.

A

That said, there's no other public comments. I appreciate uh the work chris in getting.

A

Through that, do I have a motion at this time. I make a motion. The board of commissioners close.

E

The public hearing and keep the record open for a period of nine and a half no 10 days.

A

Okay, we got a motion and a second to close. The public hearing keep the record.

A

Open for a period of 10 days, any further comment seeing hearing none all in favor.

A

Aye: okay, five! Oh! Thank you very much price for the rundown. Thank you miss linda. Let's move on.

A

To land resource management at a zoning test, amendment for community solar energy.

A

Generating systems we have the opportunity to discuss, deliberate and then possibly adopt brenda.

A

Did you want to take this first or j? You tell me good morning, commissioners, I can take this.

T

We, as you know, we're here today, to um for you to discuss, deliberate and possibly adopt the.

T

Community solar zoning text amendment a public hearing was held on thursday april 29th by the.

T

Board and the board voted to keep the record open for an additional 10 days for public comment.

T

During that time, we received three written comments. uh One was from leslie elder.

T

With the coalition for community solar access, she was also a commenter during.

T

The period public hearing and the coalition for community solar access does support the amendment.

T

uh We also received written comments from carroll county farm bureau and the carroll.

T

County agriculture commission, both of which oppose the amendment, um the ordinance that.

T

You have before you today reflects two uh minor changes, or maybe not some minor, but two.

T

uh Additions since the public hearing, the first is at section n on the um on the amendment.

T

And that reflects commissioner weaver's request to add language prohibiting the use of eminent domain.

T

To cross a joining property um with the infrastructure needed for community.

T

Solar and the second is at section e um subsection d, and that was in addition.

T

To the easement requirement that would uh require that if, if an easement is required, it would only.

T

Be one piece that was five acres or greater. So if somebody only has you know one or two acres.

T

Left after the solar development um set aside on their property, then we wouldn't be looking.

T

For an ease in on a piece, that's only one or two acres or anything less than five acres, so.

T

Those were the two additions that those editions were posted online on may 5th. So um at this time.

T

If you have any questions I can get to that or um you know, you're welcome to start discussion.

A

Okay, uh commissioner weaver, do you have comments? um The um proposal within the domain.

D

It's not in your text right it's! uh It should be reflected at letter n at the very end.

D

You thank you. I want to make sure it's in there now. One other comment: I have.

D

uh Well, I need to make on this. uh Commissioner fraser. You made a comment, the last uh uh meme when.

D

We talked about this that you want to revisit um this in a year and you know I think you triggered.

D

Comments from farm bureau and the ag commission that this is what they're afraid of.

D

That you know we use the ag remainders for this uh uh solar energy systems, which kind.

D

Of makes sense as far as I'm concerned, but then you may be a segway into using agriculturally.

D

Zoned properties then, to open this up to large operations in the future. And if you're aware.

D

Some of the operations we have presently on industrial ground now taking the property.

D

Value from what agriculture is about, ten thousand acre to about forty thousand dollars an acre on.

D

Industrial solar development- what you would do for this later, forty five thousand acres we have could.

D

Just drive the prices up tremendously uh on these uh remaining properties.

D

Instead of uh you know that 100 acre farm going for a million now it's four million dollars and.

D

It really uh drives the pricing everything up, plus the fact rental property. If it uh you know some of.

D

These remainders are still used for agriculture and being rented if they uh available for solar.

D

uh Now, from you know, several hundred dollars, maybe an acre for some of the greater better land to.

D

Six seven eight hundred dollars- that is out of uh reach for uh agricultural purposes, at that.

D

Point so uh I wish you'd clarify that I I do have concerns about this. uh If we revisit in a year and.

D

Open this up, this would be uh counterproductive. I think to what our other goals are in accounting.

D

Right, the only thing I was saying and- and I don't always express myself that well but the thing I.

E

Was trying to get across is that we're going to do this on ag remainders before we look at anything.

E

Else, let's wait at least a year to see how this is working and then, at the end of the year we can.

E

Revisit this is this is a good good thing or not a good thing, I'm not saying in the year we're going.

E

To open up to more uh solar on on ag land, I'm not saying that at all. But what I was trying to say is.

E

That, because the callers that were or the public comment we got was saying and open this up on on.

E

Aglan now you know kind of re do this now we're not positioned to do that now. Let's look at this.

E

Let's pass this amendment, let's put it forward, let's look at it for a year.

E

And see how well it's working, I'm not suggesting that we're going to do it any more than what we.

E

Have right now, as a matter of fact, just yesterday I was on a national call with.

E

Nako about this very issue- and I have to say every single commissioner across the country that.

E

Weighed in on this was kind of against what they called the land grab of coming in and doing this.

E

And not just with this, but even with the uh transmission lines going across some areas.

E

Because it takes a larger trench, I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but they talk about the.

E

Larger transmission lines and the more area we're taking all this, everyone was against that even.

E

Though the administration is offering the carrot of some incentives to do this, so I'm not in favor.

E

Of of of adding this to ag land, I never said that I said in the year we could revisit the topic.

E

That's all it's all. I meant not doing it now. We have to look to see how this is working. First,.

E

Okay, I think that clears it up on I'm speaking a little bit. I guess the farm bureau and the.

D

Ag, commission, you know the uh first, you know with random development, put pressure on ground.

D

Throughout the country- and uh it was just uh you know- a development here- whoever could pay the most.

D

For this property, the most we've really done a good job. I think carroll county of eliminating.

D

That and keeping our developments around the sit, downs and uh municipalities not having these.

D

Random developments out there and for a farmer, those random developments are very difficult to.

D

Deal with uh you know, you have a house in the mid or houses right next to 100, acre field. Well,.

D

Spraying and drift and all kinds of things come in corn stalks blowing across the front lawn.

D

Becomes an issue: uh all kinds of things come come about there, so they have legitimate concerns.

D

About this being a segue in, even though I do give brenda and everybody a great deal of.

D

Credit for putting together something that's using uh the land that uh I think the remainders.

D

uh Very well here and, as you said, I think a year from now would be a great time to.

D

You know see see if it's working, I think it would. I think this will work the work going into it and.

D

uh Thoughts behind the eac and everybody putting this together, I think, uh will be maybe uh the.

D

Answer to some of our problems, and we have to do something according to the state correct.

C

If we don't do it, they'll come do it. For us, therein lies the challenge. Yes,.

C

Because if we don't do it, like you said, dennis they're going to do it for us.

C

And I'm afraid they're going to do it anyway right. So if we don't have something in place.

C

We're going to be in a heap of trouble right here, yeah so because we're going to be right.

U

Back into that thing, where montgomery county is going to tell us what to do, yeah well, prince.

D

Nationwide, where we are here, unlike what's happening in littlestown and things, so it's.

D

Really appreciated and I have to watch what I say because I know what I say goes viral all the.

E

Time so I have to kind of be very specific now I just remember last year what your comment.

A

We have to tell our story, because if not it's going to shove down our throats from others, that.

A

Don't represent carroll county's best interest, so yeah at least we've got a little bit of teeth.

C

Now to push back on the annapolis absurdity when it comes up because it's going to happen.

C

Yeah because we are taking this into our own hands and we are making changes so that we can.

E

Have solar in carroll, county and yeah? I think that's the intent! So as long as we're doing.

E

Things like this, hopefully we'll be okay, but you never know, and I'm going to tell you dick on your.

C

On your theme there- and I wasn't here for the hearing, but I watched every.

C

Every second of it- and I I was trying to push into comment- I remember that it was a recording, so.

C

But wait wait what hold on a minute, but I do not want to see large solar arrays on our ag land.

C

At all, but if we don't get a hold on putting it just in the remainders here, then that's what we're.

C

Gonna see that's the problem here and I I get I get that the ag and the farm bureau are concerned.

C

About that, but I I question it as to whether they realize that or not if we don't do something now.

C

We're gonna be told to do something. I hope they understand that, because that's the key to this.

D

Well, things happened on the eastern shore that uh really got out of hand here in some queen anne's.

D

County and some of those uh that kind of that's set their minds and what can happen and uh is not.

D

Pretty but those weren't, the remainders, were they, no, those were not that was flat out everywhere and.

A

That's what's happening up here on route 97 and now right and that's: what's happened in her county.

A

On 32 right yeah, so so we have a finite number of remainders and if we target those remainders for.

A

You know growth or development; it can leave us alone on everything else and.

A

It's not just this, but there's other things. We've talked um yeah. We we've got to protect.

A

What we try to accomplish here right, if not it's going to be shoved down our throats.

A

Yeah, so I just, I hope that message is being conveyed to the ag and your community yeah.

D

I've mentioned it quite a few times here, even though uh you know they one thing.

D

A lot of these guys are dug in and but they can be dug in all they want there, but the state.

C

Comes in and overrides right, yeah everything you can't! You can't put your head in the center yeah.

A

That's my my concerns they put their head in the sand and then all of a sudden, big state, big.

A

Jurisdictions come in with the rules yeah and then all of a sudden we're we're done we're done so.

A

And I I think, as you've mentioned dick, you know I think jay and of course you know tom.

C

Tom was double best, remember that guy uh he he sort of charged here when this came out.

C

Originally and when it was presented to me gosh, I don't know how long ago I went to dennis and said.

C

Hey dennis and I actually sat down with with tom good good grief, way back and started the.

C

The charge here- and it was then determined that if we don't get these these limited areas.

C

In play, we're going to be outside looking in and that's why the ag remainder part of it came into.

C

Play so to brenda and jay, and to that guy named devil. This who's out there somewhere enjoying life.

C

uh And everybody else to work with this, I think we've done the best that we can do here to get a.

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Handle on it, I really do so. Yeah we've had those discussions on mako legislative calls same thing.

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If we don't do something here, the state's going to come in and say this is what's going to happen.

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Yeah, so I think we're being very proactive in this we're taking the steps that we need to take.

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And I you know we're hopefully moving in the right direction so that we have control over it. If I may.

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I'd like to hear from the zoning administrator void about this since they'll be knee deep in it.

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um Good morning, commissioner, um like I say I mean a lot of people put a lot of work into.

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This and I I do think it's a good document, that's something that we can work with, that.

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Like I say, we can get in ahead of whatever the state's going to try and make us do.

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And I think in a way it's going to preserve more land than what the state's going to.

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Do they're just going to say anywhere and like I said, I think this is a good first step and being.

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Proactive and really trying to stay ahead of everybody yeah all right. I agree kay and.

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My my biggest concern is: you know those those folks in the south, montgomery and prince george's.

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County who want to take advantage of every space they have for their development and they.

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Don't represent us, so we've gotta stay in front of this, so yeah at least that that's my perspective.

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I appreciate your comments, jack and I'm I'm not against dennis. Let me get I'm not against.

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Revisiting but I don't want the mindset to be we're revisiting to make more. Oh, no he's right.

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Right because that I heard that too and I'm like, I don't think that's what he meant. No, I did not.

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Mean that I'm glad, commissioner, we've brought that up, so I could clarify it's not what I meant.

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Right, I just meant that, if we're going to do anything, let's look at this for a year. First.

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And then we can revisit and then we'll head to my. How is this working? Is this enough.

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But then we're you know, this is good. You've been misinterpreted before right. That's so true.

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But with that I'll make the motion board of commissioners without the community soldiers.

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Zoning tax amendment as revised second okay, got a motion in a couple seconds. Any further discussion.

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Seeing hearing none very good job, both brenda and jay, thank you so much all in favor, aye aye that.

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Five-O, thank you good work. Let's see where am I at solar press that out? Let's talk about playground.

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Equipment for the westminster veterans memorial park. I always like to see the pictures on these.

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I'm sure there'll be a tour sometime soon. Yeah it'll be a tour yeah. Okay, jeff.

A

Maureen, okay, good morning, commissioners, we are here this morning to request your approval to.

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Award a contract for the purchase and installation of playground, equipment, safety, servicing.

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And related concrete work at the westminster veterans memorial park to cunningham recreation.

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In the amount of 152 183 dollars and 67 cents, this equipment is being purchased through the omnia.

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National competitive purchasing contract, this amount is within the budget and.

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No additional funds should be needed and for the project I'll turn it over to jeff.

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Good morning, commissioners, uh we're in the last stages of construction of westminster veterans.

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Memorial park, the playground is the last of the major amenities to be added to the park.

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We currently have a pavilion that has been constructed on site and there's a walking trail.

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Which is already being used extensively, so we've got a little bit of limited site work remaining.

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The goal is to have this playground purchased and installed early summer, and then we would.

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Be looking to have a ribbon cutting for the park sometime in july, and I I can tell you one of the.

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Last playgrounds we put in up in district one, I believe we did have a commissioner- do a test run.

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On the slide, so, commissioner frazier there will be an opportunity for you with this big.

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In your district, if you would like to do so, oh you can invite me out well yeah I'll, try.

E

Out all the equipment you have to bring that you had to bring that up. Didn't you dangerous.

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I did there there's uh photographic evidence of that uh-huh yeah, whatever he is, the smallest.

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Commissioner of us all, so people would be able to fit on the slide. Commissioner frasier I'd like to.

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uh Enjoy seeing that it might not the right, the size might not all be appropriate I'll. Do it? Okay,.

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Jeff for edification.

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Why can we do this and not procure playgrounds at the schools when folks are asking.

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That's a very good question.

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We have money within our capital budget for maintaining county parks, so.

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This is something that's part of a larger capital project for the westminster veterans.

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Memorial park, we have other funding sources such as self-help, where the primary goal, that is to.

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Complete projects at county parks, we do also look at municipal parks from time to time or at.

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School locations, but we tend to focus on things that directly impact county recreation parks.

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Programs first and when areas have other means of funding, municipalities are able to do some things.

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With their funding, schools are certainly able to do that with their funding as well.

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That, typically, is a little bit lower priority. Okay, the the the fact that there is going to.

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Be a playground up. There was that vetted with the community, because there's been.

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Some pushback up in that from that community on the extent of what that park is going to mean.

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So I just I want to make sure that they're good with a playground, I'm assuming it's been vetted.

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Yes, that absolutely has been vetted. The concerns that were raised previously about this park had.

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To do with athletic fields which are no longer a part of the completed project or the land project.

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So the athletic fields and then the traffic associated with them.

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Are not a part of the project, the playground, the pavilion and the walking trail have been in.

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And discussed with the public from the start and the public has been supported.

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Thank you. Okay, with that I'll make the motion board of commissioners award to contract for.

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The purchase and installation of playground equipment, the westminster veterans memorial park.

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To cunningham recreational incorporated in the amount of 152 and 183.67 cents, I'm sucking it and.

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uh When you uh put the playground equipment in and give commissioner boucher a tour, keep.

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Him off the equipment- hey I'll, be there on the day to go down the slide by the way the.

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Director [ __ ]. I want to comment on the artwork you have on the wall behind you.

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What's that made by stanford, because it looks like birch trees or something that is beautiful,.

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Our staff are very talented, but no, they did not do that. I was uh bargain shopping and.

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Picked that up, but I thought it was appropriate for the office- it's very lovely. Thank you at.

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Least one commissioner likes it. I got motion in a couple seconds and further discussion on this.

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Can hear none all in favor, aye aye wait, wait, wait, wait! Wait! I apologize mr swam.

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Okay, can you uh bear with me one second seriously just bear with me: you should blow that up.

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Dang, it's I'm going to be in your office in about an hour or so that's priceless. That's.

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So this kid right here, I think, is very upset, because this kid right here is taking up the space.

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There may be a tear coming out of this one, because this one.

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Isn't out of the slide yet so just saying, mr president, can we move on? Oh there.

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The guy out of the slide: okay, okay, wow. I want to state that things like that. Make you a wonderful.

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Commissioner and people identify with you, I think I had a little burn just to let you know.

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Okay, I apologize maureen, you are still up. uh Is the sheriff and vicky joining us.

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Talking about a training simulator for the sheriff's department,.

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Yes, um we are moving on, we bring yesterday. Thankfully, thankfully I must say.

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We request your approval to purchase the interactive milo range, firearms, training, simulator,.

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In the amount of sixty one thousand seven hundred and eighty two dollars from faac incorporated.

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This is um pricing off of the gsa contract and if you have any questions about the.

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Equipment I'll turn it over to sheriff dewey's good morning sheriff good morning steve I've got.

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A crawl space over here that I'm hearing some really strange noises out of at the old deal.

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Crawl into and investigate for me we're moving on sheriff moving on so before I get started.

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Real quick thanks for mentioning the uh police week last week was correctional officers week.

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um And, as you guys know, it's been a tough year for law enforcement and and thanking a police.

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Officer has a different meaning in 2021 than it has uh ever in the past, so I appreciate you guys.

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Always recognizing the uh accomplishments of law enforcement, not only in my.

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Office but throughout the the county and and certainly my correctional deputies in the jail.

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I often say if you don't hear anything come out of that place, then they're doing exactly what they.

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Should be doing that's right, so they do wonderful work as well. So thanks for mentioning that.

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um The milo machine before you guys ask me, I know this is on the tip of your tongue.

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Is there an acronym for milo? What does it mean? There is no acronym for it. It's considered a.

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Milo, a virtual training system, so kind of how it works is that at north carol, high school we will.

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Install this system and it's almost like a walking into a theater, so it's virtual training for law.

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Enforcement, not just my office but it'll, be open for any local law enforcement agency that wants.

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To use it and schedule time for it, and so um one of the rooms that we've acquired up at north carol.

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And uh um cleaned up will have the system large enough so that it has props a wall. Maybe a mailbox.

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A place for a deputy to seek cover or concealment, but some of the things the milo system does helps.

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Us with active shooter training, critical incident, training, community police training, mental health.

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Police crisis intervention- de-escalation training also helps us with firearms implicit bias.

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We purchased a taser, a firearm as well as oc spray, so that when the.

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Deputy or officer is involved in a situation where they were would need to use a weapon.

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There is a virtual weapon that comes with it that is calibrated to the machine, so they can.

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See exactly where that weapon's being uh whether it's a spray from a oc spray or the prongs from.

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A taser, or even unfortunately, if they have to fire a weapon, how accurate they are and where.

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Where that bullet goes, and um so what what it does is it's a all but a theater, the deputy will.

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um Get a scenario that they're about to go into an instructor will be in a room in the back of.

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The room and, let's say, for example, they're going to a call, a man with a gun or look or a man with a.

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Some sort of weapon, a a knife and they get to that call. These are scenarios 800 different scenarios.

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That are played out by live actors, and the deputy then responds to the call and the instructor can.

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Kind of send that scenario into a direction based on how the deputy's doing, if they've.

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Sought cover, if they're, using good verbal skills and they're trying to de-escalate the situation.

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Then the the scenario is very winnable and the deputy can then de-escalate it to a point where.

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The suspect drops the weapon and they take him into custody. But if the deputies not.

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Doing what they're supposed to be doing, they didn't see cover they seem like they're.

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Out of control with with their commands and they're, not doing what they're supposed to.

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Be doing or what they were trained to do, then the instructor can send that to a direction.

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Where the scenario turns into a use of force, everything's videoed, so at the end of scenario, the.

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The instructor and the deputy can see exactly what they did right. What they may have done wrong and.

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How they can win a scenario like that in the future, and milo puts out updates on current.

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Scenarios throughout the country that you may have seen on tv and they'll try and replicate.

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That particular scenario, so that a deputy can walk through and potentially identify pitfalls that.

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Took place and stopped that from happening, this puts us at a category that very few organizations.

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Throughout the region, or really in the country, has the capability of doing currently the secret.

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Service, the united states, military and a number of large organizations throughout the country.

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Use this system with their acquisition of the north carol high school and the ability to spread.

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Out with training there, this puts us at a level that very few organizations in the in the region.

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Or in the country have so we're really excited about putting this system into place, um as you.

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Guys know I do an annual citizens police academy. This will be a system that we can run citizens.

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Through so they can understand what deputies or how deputies are being trained and some of the.

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Reasons they use the force that they use, but all in all I I think this is a a great acquisition.

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Puts us in a different category that that most organizations wish that they were in any questions.

A

Go ahead, commissioner: boucher. Thank you, president. Ralston sheriff. I appreciate that.

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You and your staff keep us on the cutting edge of technology for law enforcement, and I also.

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Want to know, would it be appropriate for me to do a tour with a media tech once this is online.

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For public awareness to show the training of our officers, but if it compromises anything, I wouldn't.

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Want to do it, but it had to be okay. If you is this, something we'd want to share with the public air.

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Training facility yeah, I don't, I don't think it's a bad thing to share. um You can go on to.

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The internet and see how milo works um uh and and the organizations that are using it.

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In some of the scenarios they they play out for you, one on the internet, but not at all. I mean.

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I would love to have you guys up there and, and um uh you know, go through some of the the.

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The incidents that that my deputies are going to have to go through but understand it's not just a.

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Use of force, it also is a de-escalation tool. It is a theater where the deputy can get close.

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Enough to communicate um or far enough away so that they can find cover and use a specific pool.

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But 800 different scenarios that are as as live and in theater as we can possibly put them through.

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The other thing that it does is because our police academy is there and every one of my deputies.

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Both corrections and law enforcement go through north carol throughout the year for in-service.

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We can work one immediately with uh firearms training, so typically, we would have to send.

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Our deputies either to half baker or to a southern area down in eldersburg to the training commission.

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For firearms, in this case, we can start getting our deputies familiar with firearms immediately.

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By using the milo system because they have the weapon they have now, the holster were.

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Able to work in a confined area so that they they can a controlled area so that they can.

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Learn how to use the firearm and practice accuracy with it, because we are accountable.

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For everything that comes out of that gun, and so it will save us time as we go down to the range.

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As opposed to getting familiar with the weapon down there, we can go right online and start.

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Firing and and using the weapon um for real, so the capabilities of it are just limitless uh sheriff.

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I I appreciate it and uh I've used systems like this. I don't know if it was milo or not, but I've.

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I remember doing this a while back one question I do have is: can you um do the scenarios allow.

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Us to interact with police and other services that may be necessary uh in a situation whether.

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It's uh again ems or, like you, said, mental health situations. So it's a multi-player uh scenario.

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Where they're interacting with others that may be coming on the scene, you know it does, it does go.

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Through, for example, um active shooters or um uh an incident that may take place in a school so that.

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um They they would walk through a scenario and come across fire ems that maybe have gotten into.

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A hot zone, and then we go past them and communicate with them. It also allows us to use.

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um Two different uh role: players, not role players, but students in in the scenarios. So um one could.

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Be contact one could be cover um as far as uh you know, fire ems, those sort of things. Yes, there are.

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There are some areas where we come across fire ems or have them stage or communicate with them.

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And then move to where the incident is taking place, so um you know 800 different scenarios just.

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Absolutely limitless, I mean we're we're just going through and sifting through how we can use the.

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System and once we get it, set up, we'll really be able to refine how we train and train with others.

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As well and and uh again, I want to make sure that it's open to, and I've spoken to, the other chiefs.

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To them and their staff as well so that they can come up and train on it, and um I just think it.

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Just puts us at a different level when it comes to training with the legislation that was just passed.

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Use of force being the biggest issue and I'll be honest with you, we don't get many.

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Use, of course, incidents that take place in this county because we're very well trained when it.

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Comes to de-escalation, the deputies and law enforcement in this county do a fabulous job.

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But I want to make sure that we're seeing as many scenarios as possible and putting our.

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Folks through them, so they know what type of weapon if any weapon at all is needed.

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um Usually the weapon that that gets them out of trouble, the most would be their mouth.

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And so the ability to work through these scenarios, but the cool thing is to have the instructor.

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Watch the scenario and say you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing so I'm gonna put it.

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In a direction where um you're gonna have to use force and and and then come back and show them.

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uh You could have succeeded um and de-escalating this. Had you done these things is just extremely.

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Important training, training training will put us in a better position. Absolutely okay. This is great.

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For carroll county, I applaud you for at least take being proactive, especially in today's society.

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And what we're seeing uh with police uh these guys need all the uh training they can get and.

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This provides so thank you. Yeah we've already got. We've already got a really impressive simulator.

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At the public safety training center that I've been involved with for quite a few years and that.

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That's if you get a chance, you ought to sit in on some of the training there. The sheriff is correct.

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It it brings real time yeah into your face. Now it's not the same as being out there.

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And and crawling through a burn building, but I tell you what it's real close. So okay.

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I moved the board of commissioners award to purchase the interactive milo range firearms.

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Training simulators to faac incorporate an amount of 61 782 dollars. Second, second: okay,.

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I have a motion in a second any further discussion really appreciate the work uh sheriff, as always.

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Seeing hearing none all in favor all right, okay, bye, though thank you. Thank you I'll, make sure.

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You guys know and we'll get you up there to take a look at it, but thank you. I appreciate it. That'd be.

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Great thanks volunteer to be a target on the real live end of a taser, eric I'll, be more than happy.

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To put you on the live end of that, so will we kiss you, but I have to taser my hand when we do that.

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Okay, celine request approval to modify use of community development block grant cdbg.

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uh Covered round two and there you are miscellane and debbie, go for it.

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You are muted, maybe not check your gear. Well, celine decker! Your will can't hear you celine.

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No, we can't hear you might want to turn it over to deb. Yes, celine, why don't you check your gear.

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Well, at the time deb, can you take it absolutely. I think we lost her all together. Let me just pull.

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It up really quickly sorry, commissioners, um so we received an award of community development block.

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Grant for just over a half a million dollars for rental assistance in the meantime, you know.

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Other federal grants came through and we were awarded the e-wrap funding. We came before you.

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About a month ago, to accept that and in lieu of that funding, cdbg asked us for a a modified.

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Award, they asked us what else we could use the money for, and so we are proposing the following.

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Uses um we will um provide see if celine celine are you back with us I'm here. Can you hear me.

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Now, yes, I just did the intro if you want to run through the sub recipients and the project budget.

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Okay! Wonderful! Thank you! Sorry about that folks. um So what we have proposed for the projects for.

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This funding um would be a full-time infection control specialist, with access carol for 105 324.

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You are all very familiar with access carroll. They are the only full-time community health.

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Safety net medical provider that targets our low that they serve low-income, uninsured and at-risk.

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uh Residents of carroll county access provides full-time, integrated health care services.

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Including medical, dental, behavioral, health for any resident of any age on a citing scale fee.

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And accepts medical assistance insurances during fy 20, the organization served.

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Approximately ten thousand patients, so um one other very significant thing about access- is.

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Excuse me that, in response to coronavirus in the state of emergency access, carroll has remained.

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Open the entire time providing on-site emergent services and telehealth services.

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In all service lines, diligent patient and staff, screening.

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Utilization of ppe, a safe environment of care of care have been implemented since march of 2020.

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As the organization continues to reopen fully for all of their services,.

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um They, which also include coveted testing as well as specialized and targeted coveted.

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Vaccination clinics that they've helped to run in collaboration with the health department.

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The need for infection control is critical. The addition of an infection control associate.

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To support their environment of care is is definitely essential, so that is one of the.

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The projects that we're proposing the next is the arc of carroll county.

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For a full-time position devoted to training, clients and staff at the arc.

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Of carroll county, this training manager position would be for 114 thousand dollars with this award.

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This position is critical to their plan to continue to move forward and provide services.

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In the safest possible manner requiring adequate cleaning of facilities and training, people on ppe.

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Ppe utilization and then also how to clean their vehicles and continue social distancing protocols.

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And then, as you all know, as things start to reopen continuing that training for folks on what is safe,.

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um What is the recommendation, as per the most up-to-date cdc guidelines,.

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um And minimizing possible exposure and risk for the folks that they work with so that is um they.

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Actually had received an award with coveted round one and had that position in place.

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And were requesting the continuation of that position as they continued their response.

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The next proposed project for the funding is the westminster rescue mission to have not only.

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A full-time staff member, but also to accept additional food donations to have a forklift.

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An on-site uh refrigerated, trailer purchased for their use carroll county like most jurisdictions.

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Had a sharp increase in the demand for food during the pandemic westminster rescue mission alone.

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Distributed more than 744 000 pounds of food in 2020, which was a 17 increase in demand year over.

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Year, carroll county is eligible to accept the emergency food assistance program also known.

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As tfap, it's a usda program that provides food at no cost, but there are currently no.

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Infrastructures, there's not an infrastructure in place to accept those donations within the county.

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On the full level that we're able to be awarded that food, it's 8 000 pounds per month, westminster.

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Rescue mission is working on a long-term plan to increase. They were working already prior.

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To covet on a long-term plan to increase their administrative and physical capacity to start.

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Accepting t-fat food, however, they did not get to get there once coveted hit, but covet has now.

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Reinforced the need for additional food to come into the county, and this is a great opportunity.

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The maryland food bank has been working across the county to talk to different food service providers.

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To accept this additional donation of food, so the funding with this grant money could provide the.

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Infrastructure at westminster rescue mission to accept this food that then they will help to get.

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Out to the smaller food pantries and kitchens throughout the county, so it would be a win-win.

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And that funding includes salary and fringe for the full-time position for administrative.

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Oversight and then the purchase of a refrigerated trailer and also a new forklift and a little bit.

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Of funding for propane, and so that total award for westminster rescue mission is 223 000 and 10.

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The next project would be a part-time staff for the bureau of aging and disabilities.

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This staff will provide outreach and case management services to isolated seniors.

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Right now, um right now, the bureau of agm disabilities.

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Would have a need for this position within their map, information and assistance office.

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We have no capacity at this point to provide case management services to our clients that are not.

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Enrolled in other bureau of aging programs, this would allow us to target those individuals who do.

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Have long-term services and supports that are not in our program, but do need this case management.

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Assistance we could go out to congregate, living facilities, provide on-site map assistance and.

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Services there and then also be engaged in other community activities with these individuals.

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We could do screenings and enrollments on-site with individuals as well with this position.

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So we are asking for fifty two thousand nine hundred and eighty two dollars to be awarded.

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To provide that staffing support at the bureau and then, of course, we would be um keeping thirty.

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Four thousand two hundred and seventy six dollars for administrative oversight of the.

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Entire grant funding um within the department of citizen services so that we could uh monitor.

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um The fiscal and programmatic oversight, so so at this point um I'll take any questions. The.

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Total award is five hundred and twenty nine thousand five hundred and ninety two dollars.

A

Okay, thanks celine and every any questions on this always a great.

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Opportunity to receive grants when we don't have a county match uh assigned to it, so.

F

Director steckel, this is all very noble and I'm supportive, but my concern is when a grant runs out.

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Will we, as a county, be on the hook the finances, or is this temporary? What's the long term on this.

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We are, we would not be on the hook, the these positions.

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Are we provide the funding for a very specific amount of time for these positions and for the.

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Position that access carroll, as well as the one at the arc and as well as the one at the bureau of.

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Aging and disabilities um and the rescue mission, if we, if there was a continued need for them,.

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These agencies would need to seek sustainable funding. For that we don't. We are not on the.

L

Hook for continuing those positions, thank you. Okay. Any other comments, discussion.

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On this yeah I'll move that we approve the modification of the cdbg get covered round, two.

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Award and why do we have to advertise? Is that just part of I guess for public comment? It is.

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A requirement of the grant that we advertise for public comment. Okay, then, then, so we'll do that and.

C

Then I move, we approve the part-time contractual position for the bureau of aging and disabilities.

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Second, okay: I got a motion I believe, and a second associated with that motion. uh Any further comment.

A

Seeing here, none all in paper, all right, okay, thank you! So much celine and debbie. Thank you. Let's see.

A

There's a request for quotation: approval purchase of five ca, 60 20b clark boost auto scrubbers.

A

I'm looking forward to finding out what these are at the senior centers, miss gina and jerry.

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If I could just interrupt for a minute please, I would just like to make an introduction of.

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Keri dulski as the newest buyer in the procurement office, carrie was promoted from associate buyer.

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To buyer and just want to let you know, she's a great asset to the purchasing office and happy.

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For this promotion and I'm going to turn it over to cary to actually introduce the scrubbers okay.

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Thank you. Thanks maureen, the carroll county bureau of aging, in cooperation with the office.

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Of procurement is requesting approval for five clark boost auto scrubbers for each of the five.

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Senior centers within the county. There were three bids that were that we solicited bids for um acme.

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Paper came in as low bid low quote, actually for twenty six thousand nine twenty five, the purchase.

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Will be made through cares, act, title three c funding and no additional funds will be necessary.

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Okay, so what are these scrubbers all about cleaning the floor? Okay, of course it's going.

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To make me talk, I'm sorry, I don't have much of a voice to talk with um so, but the scrubbers are.

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Utilized um to to strip and clean the floors within all of the senior centers, um they are.

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Used as far as the cleaning goes on a daily basis, um the we have older models right now um and that.

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The staff are very pleased with, and so um the purchase of these, if approved, would be used.

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I'm with the board of commissioners award the purchase of these five ca. 60 20b clark boost auto.

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Scrubbers to acme paper in the amount of twenty six thousand nine hundred twenty five dollars.

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Second- and I think you ought to go- try one out, I'm looking forward to oh, I know how to do it.

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Basically, training man, I suggest not him. I suggest.

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Boucher go clean the floors at each of the communities.

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So that that is part of the motion.

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We actually have a question. Last question: okay, I apologize okay, I got a motion. I got a second.

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I now have discussion. I have a question. Just have a question. This is an auto scrubber. Does that mean.

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Does someone actually have to use it, or does it go out like those auto vacuums that you had that.

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You have timed yeah, wouldn't it be nice if that's how they actually worked, but no somebody has to.

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Utilize it, but with their own, meaning that they they um propel um very easily um with a.

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Good application, so not completely yellow yet so the next generation will be. I was here to.

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Save your voice, but commissioner frazier uh therefore trained it, but that's okay. I have.

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A motion- I have a second any further discussion, seen here, none all in favor all right. Thank you.

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Ladies, thank you. Thank you. Okay. I need uh we got a bid, approval for purchase and installation.

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Of replacement pumps and control panel at water's edge pump station, the office of procurement.

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In cooperation with the bureau of utilities is requesting your approval to award three separate.

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Contracts for the purchase and installation of replacement pumps and control panel at water's.

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Edge pump station in eldersburg the first award, I would go to excellent water solutions for the.

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Purpose of the pumps, they are the authorized sole distributor of these flight pumps.

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And the two other contracts we request, your approval for would be.

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In the amount for excellent would be for thirty three thousand eight hundred fourteen dollars and.

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Five cents, the next two are term contractors that the county has um one to mid-atlantic.

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Utilities in the amount of thirty one thousand eight hundred and eighty dollars and control.

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Systems: twenty one in the amount of thirty four thousand six hundred and fifty five dollars.

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I'm going to turn this over to andy for the background on this. Okay, thanks carrie, andy.

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Thank you gary gentlemen good morning and thank you for including me on your schedule again.

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um As per a carry and the briefing paper, this item is for replacement waste water pumps at the.

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Water's edge sewage pump station in the freedom district water's edge pump station is located.

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Near the southern intersection of johnsville road in maryland, 32., it was built in 2002 and the dual.

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Pumps have been in operation since that time. These pumps are nearing the end of their useful service.

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Life that have recently been experiencing some mechanical issues and concerns the.

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Replacement pumps are equivalent size, flight pumps and based on our experience with other.

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Similar flight products, we expect a seamless transition and good service standard, warranties.

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Apply to both the equipment and the labor, this agenda item, as kerry said, includes.

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Three separate awards of contract for the pumps and the associated the associated control panel.

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I do not mention this enough when I appear in open session, but bureau staff did outstanding work and.

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Breaking the overall task down into individual parts and then interacting with separate vendors.

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To to obtain the best overall product and price for these improvements, any questions for me.

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Andy thanks for that, uh especially that last part. I will share.

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I see somebody down at that pump station all the time you know uh so I I would imagine they are.

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Definitely on their last on their last leg, um you know, but it's it's right down the street from me.

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um So yeah, I appreciate the work being done there I'll move the board of commissioners award to.

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Three separate contracts for the purchase and installation of replacement pumps and control.

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Panel at water's edge pump station to in xylem order solutions incorporated in the amount of 33.

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Fourteen dollars and zero and five cents to mid-atlantic utilities incorporated.

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In the amount of thirty one thousand eight hundred eighty dollars and to control systems.

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21 in the amount of 34 655 dollars. Second, okay, got a motion got a second great work.

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Any uh further comments discussion seen here, none all in favor, okay, let's see.

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Let's move on to question of bid approval engineering services for design of the.

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Barthelo water booster station yeah for a bartholo water booster station go for it.

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The office of procurement, in cooperation with bureau of utilities, is requesting your approval.

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To award the contract for engineering services for the design of the bartholo water booster station.

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To whitman reichert associates in the amount of fifty three thousand two hundred and forty six.

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Dollars whitman, reichert and associates is currently one of our term contractors.

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um If proposal amount is within the adopted budget, no additional funds would be necessary.

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Gentlemen bear with me with this. uh With with this agenda item, I'm gonna uh offer quite a.

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Bit of information feel free to interrupt me at any time with any questions or comments.

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um For a brief background of the basis of this project, the freedom water service system.

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Is divided into two major zones: the low elevation zone, which is about 80 percent of the service area.

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And generally includes everything east of maryland 32 and the high elevation zone, which.

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Is the remaining 20 percent of the service area is generally everything west of maryland 32. the.

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Low zone includes the freedom, water treatment plant, the 1 million gallon liberty tank the.

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1 million gallon marks tank presently offline 1 million gallon bartholo tank.

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The high zone includes the 500 000 gallon linton tank. This tank is supplied by the booster pump.

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Station at march tank, there is no backup system in place currently for the march tank.

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Booster pump station, please recall that this board approved the contract award to whitman.

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The whitman record associates in february of 2020 for the evaluation of the water of the barthelo.

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Water storage tank and the feasibility of bringing the tank back online to serve as a redundant water.

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Supply for the lincoln tank and the high zone, rather than relying completely on the march tank.

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Booster pump station at that time I explained to the board that the bartholo tank was taken offline.

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In 2013, because of low water pressure issues in the vicinity of the tank.

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As well as major water stagnation issues, the wooden the whitman study for the bartholo tank.

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Has since been completed and recommends against reactivating the bartholo tank.

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Basically, because of continuing concerns with the overall water system, stagnation.

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What this essentially means is that the service system would not be able to use.

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Or turn over to stored three and a half million gallons of water quickly enough before the added.

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Chlorine at the treatment plant would begin to break down into contaminants. However, the.

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Study also recognized the importance of and the need for, a redundant water supply to the housing.

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To address this need, it has been recommended that a booster pump station be constructed at.

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The bartholo tank site to service the heisig upon upon review of this recommendation bureau of staff.

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Concurred with this for the following reasons, obviously, first and foremost, this would provide.

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A redundant water supply to the to the heisen. Currently, if the march booster pump station were.

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To go offline for any reason whatsoever. There are no direct means of providing water to the housing.

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Secondly, the new bartholo booster pump station would become the primary.

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Water supply to the high zone, this would result in two major benefits to the losing.

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The first benefit is that the march tank would remain as full as possible during the.

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Peak morning needs for water service. This would this would result in an increase in pressure of.

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Approximately five to six psi for the users in the neighborhood surrounding the tank. That does not.

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Sound like a lot of increase in pressure, but it would make a substantial difference to those users.

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At this time, when the linton tank water levels drop to a certain elevation, regardless of time.

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Of day the march booster pump station activates and pushes water to winton when this water is.

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Drawn from the marks tank, it steadily reduces the water pressure to the surrounding area. This.

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Continues until the full level is reached at linton, the booster pump station then turns off.

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And mark's tank is slowly replenished. The cycle repeats as the linton tank calls for water during.

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The day in the week, this water supply arrangement is finely tuned and any changes will made to it.

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Will directly impact the operation of linton tank parts, tank or combination of both things.

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The the second benefit to bringing with the water, with the partially booster pump station.

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Being built is that the the booster pump station would draw water from a 12-inch diameter main.

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That, in turn would draw water from from the liberty tank. This will assist us in greater.

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Water movement into and out of liberty tank and will help with stagnation, concerns.

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And then, finally, the linton tank was constructed in 1998 and it has been in great operation since.

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That time, however, it is beginning to show signs of, wear and tear and will need to be repainted.

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In the upcoming years to do so, the tank will be will need to be taken offline for approximately.

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Four to six months with the tank offline, there is limited confidence in the ability to supply.

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Acceptable water and pressure to the high zone exclusively via the march booster pump station.

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And importantly, little or to no confidence in providing the necessary water pressure and volumes.

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Required for extended firefighting efforts, the construction of the bartholomew booster pump.

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Station would resolve these concerns. As terry said, this contract is for the engineering services for.

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The barthelo booster pump station and the 1 200 foot extension of a 12 inch diameter water main.

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To the site, this facility is a much needed improvement to the old.

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To the overall freedom water service system, the scope of work includes construction, drawings.

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All county and mde permit related services. Construction did support services upon a.

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Water contract the engineering services will be completed by the end of this year. The project will.

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Then be advertised for construction bids at this time the estimated cost for construction is in the.

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Is in the estimated range of 2.3 to 2.7 million, however, this project appears to be a potential.

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Candidate for the federal arpa funding will be included in on my bureau's priority listing for.

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For use of market funding, gentlemen, it was my intention to keep this presentation as concise.

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And focused as possible, however, as you've heard, there are a broad range of interconnected issues.

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Associated with this project, the overall freedom water system- I I wanted you to be fully aware of.

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The system shortcomings that staff and I have identified as well as the best available means.

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To resolve these issues, as you consider the award of this contract and not to overuse not to overuse.

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The word, but this project is truly exciting. With that, do you have any questions for me.

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I appreciate the uh thoroughness is this this tank? Is it the one located by cbs.

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Yes, it is, and then we have adequate space at that tank site to to accommodate the the booster pump.

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Station the booster pump station will essentially look the exact same as a sewage bump station it'll.

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Be a brick type, building fully enclosed right. Okay- and uh you mentioned the additional funding.

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um And I imagine well, I expect you are going through prioritization of funding through arpa.

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As far as what projects you will be recommending uh to be uh submitted for arpa funding to us.

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Next week is that correct- and this is one of them that that is correct- I'm I don't. I do not believe.

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That the listing of projects will be presented to you to the commissioners at that time. I believe.

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That's just for the acceptance of the funding itself. I have been advised that we will be asked.

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To to provide a primary listing at some point in the near future: okay, okay, that's fair! Any.

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Discussion on this uh good work, again very thorough in uh the presentation I moved the.

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Board of commissioners award contract for engineering services for the design of the.

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Bartholo water booster station to whitman record and associates llp in the amount of 253 thousand.

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Two hundred and forty six dollars, so I got a motion. Second, any further discussion.

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Seen hearing none all in favor, aye, aye, okay, thank you so much. Thank you, gentlemen.

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Harry and again, congratulations! Thank you. Okay is mr singer with us, the one the only.

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It's gonna be maggie all right. What a step up! Thank you, maggie.

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Maggie, you are not being heard.

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I lip read: oh no here we go.

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She tested it earlier and it did work.

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I'll be defending the health department right now.

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Maybe she's she's no she's, not so she's gonna she's gonna met maggie left. She can handle the.

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Pressure, maybe there's water- I don't know, but uh we've always always put up, slides and stuff like.

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That you can't read the sign while we're waiting. I usually I used to be american sign uh language.

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Special ed yeah, while we're waiting, I think we can go over some of the new state directives that were.

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Put out yesterday, oh so yeah, why don't we do that? And then because we all, we always hear.

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On the this morning on bal, you know they said well, harford county's gone along with it yep.

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Baltimore county has gone along howard, don't ever hear anything about carroll county. uh You know so.

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We did provide a comment: okay through uh turtle county times, but also the stations okay and.

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Well, you know go ahead, the bottom line is, you know just one second, maggie yeah. The restrictions were.

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Some of the restrictions restrictions were lifted and I think he also said that once we get to.

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That 70 threshold for correct vaccines that the indoor masking will will probably go away so.

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Which is interesting because when we had talked previously, we were talking about opening up the.

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County office building june, the first to get back to some kind of normalcy. I would I would.

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Think that's going to be about right because I think he's he's hitting the memorial day thing.

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As the as the the 70 thing, so uh that, and you know one of the things I want to applaud him for.

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And this is just me personally, I don't know how the rest of you feel.

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uh But that's putting the work search requirement back on unemployment.

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Everybody that I've talked to not only here but in another area that I've been frequenting lately.

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It's all about, we can't find any help correct, because people are able to sit home and make.

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As much money as they can, if as if they were working, so I applaud the governor for putting.

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That work search requirement back in these people need to get back out and start looking.

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For a job, or else we're going to be in trouble, this summertime we're going to be in trouble.

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Restaurants can't find help. There's there's you know, try to try to find a plumber and get.

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A and get a eta on when they're going to come to you or an electrician everybody's hurting right.

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For employment, so it I've had enough of people sitting home, collecting unemployment when they.

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Should be out trying to look for a job, so I think that was a good move, so uh I think that was it.

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I I believe, uh that's mr ross, I think so well. I think I think well. I appreciate that because.

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Talking to restaurant owners, I mean they are limited in their functions and they're closing.

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On certain days, because they do not have the support necessary and the help necessary.

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uh There are more signs out there for help wanted. um If I can make a comment on that as well.

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If you're owed back unemployment, even if you start working now, you'll they're still still, they will.

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Still get you that back unemployment, I think a lot of people are fearful that they're old owed money.

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And because it's whatever the reasons were there, you know so many people applying all these other.

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Things were going on, but if they owe you back unemployment, you will get that money.

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That doesn't prevent you from starting to work now and earning a paycheck that back money should.

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Still be coming in so I mean I think some people might be holding out because of that, because if I.

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Start working out, if I'm owed x amount of money, or am I going to get that? Yes, the government is.

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Looking to get you all the money that is owed to you, you can still start work yep and.

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If I may I'd like that, I believe commissioner williams was just on ocean city and I believe.

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They are facing a major employment crisis with the forthcoming vacationers. They can't find.

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Enough help to run the resort town, yeah, you're, you're right uh they've got no tram drivers.

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They've got you know the things that everybody expects when they get down there.

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It's going to be completely different, everybody thinks it's going to be back to normal.

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Hang on yeah, I was in a restaurant, the other day, they're closed, tuesdays, wednesdays and thursdays.

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And the reason in bold letters, lack of staff, yep, yeah and the restaurants are the same yeah.

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Many of the owners, uh we can't get help yeah and it's all more local. Absolutely the uh you know the.

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The other piece- and I know maggie's gonna- get into this regarding the vaccines uh we are, uh we've.

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Come up with um verbiage that we'll talk about in open about putting out in the in the tax bills, you.

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Know the couple lines that we have available where to get vaccines, um we got to continue uh again as.

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Leaders, as we've always said in the community, and encourage other leaders uh in the community.

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To promote in the vaccines to promote we're in the masks when appropriate, we will get through this.

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There's you know it, that's what it's about and and we're moving in the direction because of how.

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Aggressive we've been um so with that, let's see how we're doing miss maggie good morning.

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Can you hear me now we can excellent all right well, first, I have to say I'm wondering if I ask.

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Ed, if he'll, maybe let me take a little hiatus and work in ocean city for the summer.

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Sure I'm in edge, I can do that, sounds like a nice break all right. Commissioners. We have some good.

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Good news slides for you this morning, uh we'll start with this slide uh that commissioner frazier.

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Had requested several weeks ago, uh as you can see, all of our slides will uh will reflect a you know.

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Pretty positive downward trend that we're happy to see this week, um you know keeping in mind that.

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Our levels are still, you know, relatively high, given where they have been previously this year,.

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But they are going down in the right direction, so we're happy about that. uh Still, as you can see, you.

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Know still in a substantial range here, but but um but going down um and then here again you see this.

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This nice wave is coming down. We had a little bit of a blip last week, but it looks like it's heading.

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In the right direction, with our case numbers, uh this is all of our cases confirmed, improbable.

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Again, here's the 14 day, rolling average that gives you kind of smooth things out, but you can still see that's heading downward as well.

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The next graph is new. It looks very similar to our uh cases by age, but that was just pure.

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Case numbers by age and as you can imagine, the age groups are not really, uh you know equal, but there.

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Aren't equal numbers of people in each of those groups, and so ed this week asked for the data by.

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Rates- and so this is the age groups broken down by rates, so you can really see um they followed.

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A lot of the same trends, although those pesky 18 to 29 year olds, had a couple of interesting.

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Bumps there, but um you can see now kind of at the end where we are the last few weeks you can see.

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The 65 and up group really dipping, except for that little little blip again last week, but you can see.

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Them really going down and the other age groups growing down. You can see some of the younger the.

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Younger and middle groups are are still higher, so their rates are rates within their um their age.

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Group are higher, so there's just an interesting a little bit more accurate way of looking at.

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Them so we're not just looking at numbers but looking at actual rates per um per age group.

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So, as we've said many times, hospitalizations and deaths do trail cases a little bit. They.

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Like cases by a couple of weeks, the hospital is still, you know, seeing a fair number of of covet.

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Cases and uh you know fairly high census um and that that continues it's not as high as it was a.

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Couple of weeks ago, but it is still still pretty significant uh and we expect that to happen again,.

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To lag the cases um this you know it's just every week it does, it doesn't change a lot every week.

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But we have seen a couple of additional cases of hospitalizations in those younger age groups.

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The 0 to 17 and the 18 to 44 does creep is, you know, continues to creep up just a little bit.

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And then our deaths by week of death, you can still see we have.

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Consistently had at least two deaths over the last, you know several weeks, and so we.

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Continue to see two to three deaths a week, um as that lags the cases, we're hoping that that.

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Will continue to reduce and hopefully get down to zero deaths per week soon.

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uh Here's our just now very busy vaccination uh chart. uh It's good. We're gonna have to change this.

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To something else soon it's a little hard to read, but you can see that we consistently can you know.

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Continue to to vaccinate folks, but as you can see, the number of first doses has really dropped off.

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Our second doses are still pretty consistent um and we did have a j clinic last week, so you'll.

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See that little 116 there is our last j j clinic and those numbers continue to continue to rise. So.

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We're you know we're happy to almost be at 25 000, first doses administered by the health department.

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uh Here's our chart of the vaccinated population by week. This is the total population, so keep in.

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Mind when governor hogan is talking about 65 percent of uh maryland being vaccinated, that's.

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Adults- and this is you know, compared to the entire population, so there's different ways of looking at.

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A data, as we all know so this is just out of their entire population, so we're nearly at 50.

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uh If you round up we're at 50 um here is our vaccinated by age group, you can.

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See you know each of these numbers creeping up a little bit per week, but we definitely.

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Saw a significant increase in the 16 to 19 year olds from last week, so happy to see that group.

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Starting to get vaccinated, that's a little bit more challenging since the 16 to 18 year.

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Olds can only get pfizer, but but they are seeking and uh finding vaccination.

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uh And then here's you know a couple of our race and ethnicity, slides that tell you how.

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We're doing making sure we're vaccinating all of our minority groups and continues to lag a little.

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Bit in hispanic population, we are having our second dose clinic at st john's on the 23rd and.

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Inviting people to come for their first dose there as long as they're comfortable going to the mall.

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For their second dose so we're hoping to engage additional people in the hispanic community to.

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Come and encourage their friends and relatives to come to that clinic as well. So that's on the 23rd.

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um Here is our you know it's another chart just as this is our older adults uh by race.

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uh And the same same thing, we continue to trail a little bit in hispanic population looking to.

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To work with them to increase the rates uh but doing pretty well and other in other racial groups,.

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And just a summary of where we are with our vaccination clinics, there are many.

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Clinics now available at the town mall, it's pretty convenient to come in the outside.

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um Not from the inside of the mall but from the outside the old sears, it's by lot h.

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Close to arby's um and we we encourage people to get registered because it's easier for them.

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To go through the process a little bit faster if they register online beforehand, but they can.

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Walk in so we certainly do accept walk-ins at the time. Just takes a few extra minutes to register.

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On site we have one johnson johnson clinic scheduled, I believe, it's june 3rd, so we have.

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Another one coming up for anybody who's interested in that one and done vaccine.

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And the most exciting thing for us this week is our children's clinic or adolescent clinic.

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For age 12 through 17, the pfizer vaccine was approved. uh The study showed us safe and effective.

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In ages, 12 through 15, it was already approved for 16 and 17 year olds. um It was approved by the cdc.

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And the maryland department of health, as well as the fda, and so as soon as we found out, we did.

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Open our clinic for uh 12 to 17 year olds, only on may 19th featuring the pfizer vaccine.

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That will be at the town, mall and, I would say, within six hours that was completely full.

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So that is um that's that clinic is full, and so now we are working to hopefully schedule another.

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Clinic the following week: dependent on vaccine allocation from the state. So if we're able to.

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Get we will, we will tentatively schedule and fill that clinic and um we will you know we'll.

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Work work to get that allocation filled by this d and here's a link um to the where the. Where that.

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uh That clinic will be posted that second clinic will be posted and as well as more.

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Information on the approval process and any other information about vaccines and children.

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uh Does anybody have any questions about that before we go on cause? I know that's a big topic.

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No, please go on okay, all right, so this is just the the same flight. I was gonna switch this out and.

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Didn't have time so this is just the same graphic. I know ed likes this. It's a little bit complex, but.

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You know, the basic message is, uh you know, folks who are vaccinated can more safely do.

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Do more things so um and as we continue to open up and continue to improve our vaccination rates,.

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You know we'll we'll see less covet spreading in the community and that will be great for all of us.

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All right and just last but not least, uh here's the the link for folks to follow. You can also just.

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Go to our website our homepage cchd.maryland.gov and go right to the registration links and sign.

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Up for clinic, you don't have to be from carroll county, um you know we're open to everybody and.

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Here's also information on the mass vaccination sites, which are also now pretty much drive up.

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If people you know, people don't have time to make an appointment, and here is uh ed.

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Our fearless leader, even if he isn't with us today, this is his um govax ambassador, poster.

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And we will be working on creating those uh for many other community leaders and community members.

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Over the next few weeks, you'll start to see them pop up on our social media in the mall and in.

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Other spots, so so look for those coming soon. All right. Anybody have any questions. Thank you. Any.

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Comments, um one thing maggie: uh I think it was, I think it was. The governor talked about pharmacies.

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The increased amount of pharmacies that now have um vaccines- and I probably should have.

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Asked while you're going through this, but um you know it sounds like more and more pharmacies and.

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Martins and safeway have vaccines. I I did a reopening at safeway and the guy at safeway.

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The manager said we have plenty and so there's so many places now and I almost said: there's an.

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Excuse not to get a vaccine, but there's so many opportunities is that. Are you seeing the same.

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Yes, there are a lot of opportunity to use to get vaccinated and now that um you know a lot of folks.

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Have been able to get vaccinated they're, um it's easy to walk in just about any any pharmacy around.

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Here and get vaccinated um for folks who are looking for you know 12 to 17 year olds or looking.

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For pfizer, there are a lot of pharmacies now that are offering pfizer and the state just just.

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Tweaked their site, so that you can search uh just by pfizer and just for unifor for people who are.

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Able to vaccinate 12 year olds, a lot of pharmacies are comfortable, are able to vaccinate kids 12 and.

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Up so that's another option for parents who don't want to go to a mass vaccination site but want to.

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Get their child vaccinated quickly, uh the pharmacy? A lot of the pharmacies around here are going.

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To be available for that, so yes definitely should be very easy to to get your vaccine.

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I mean the uh the biggest gut punch for me is still seeing three four deaths a week.

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And hospitalizations I mean it it does. It feels like somebody's just like punching hard right in.

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The gut saying, why are we still in this you know and looking forward to getting to those zeros.

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I really appreciate the work you and your team are doing with uh both chris weinberg and chris swam.

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In partnership, getting the messages out to our community, so thank you so much uh for all that.

A

You and the and the folks over there are doing so. um Thank you for the important work you do to also.

AC

Spread the message- and uh we really appreciate your support, just a quick question you can put.

E

Out there again, the times and the dates that you can walk into the town mall to get a.

E

That's a serious building from the outside, but walk in to get your vaccination.

AC

Right that is, that is a great question, so we um let me let me bring that up. So I can. I don't.

AC

Don't make any mistakes, but one thing uh we are working towards a more regular schedule so, like.

AC

You know every tuesday at this time every thursday at this time, we're not quite there yet, because we.

AC

Are still wrapping up some of the um the second dose clinics that we offer around the county so.

AC

You know, since it's two doses we've been, you know around, um you know kind of completing those in the.

AC

Locations where you know the locations outside of westminster, where people got their first.

AC

um First doses, so we're we're not able to get to that uh quite yet, but in just a second here.

AC

I will tell you, tell you, so we have a clinic uh today um from three to seven pm at the mall, so.

AC

Folks are welcome to walk in today from three to seven. That is a modern clinic. um We have another.

AC

Clinic next thursday, at three from three to seven at the town, mall, that's the 20th and then the.

AC

Following thursday from 10 a.m to 1 p.m, another modern clinic at the town, mall and then the.

AC

Johnson and johnson clinic is on june 3rd from 5 to 7 p.m. So, most importantly, there's the there's.

AC

One today from 3-7 pm at the town, mall, that is in the old sears near the optical department,.

AC

um And it's just it's parking lot h, and so you can walk in any time between three and seven.

AC

Register and get your vaccine ms coons, thanks for all your hard work is showing that.

F

Those who have been previously infected with coven have the same, if not more antibodies as.

F

Those who are vaccinated with that knowledge out there is there any way for us to calculate and.

F

Determine how much of our existing population has been previously infected, so we can look at.

F

That up against the number who are vaccinated to determine where we're reaching our herd, immunity.

AC

Mr boucher, you always have the best questions, so um I I think you could probably we could probably.

AC

Guess at something that would give us a little bit of you know larger immunity, but that assumes.

AC

You know we're we're still just learning about how much immunity uh previous infection really grants.

AC

Somebody, and so I think, a couple of the challenges with that um folks who have really mild illness.

AC

Are likely to maybe be less protected or protected for a shorter length of time than folks who had.

AC

Maybe a maybe a more severe illness and because the um the immune system works in in several.

AC

Ways so an antibody level definitely shows that you had an infection and that you probably have.

AC

Some protection for a time, but there are other components to the you know: infection response t.

AC

Cells and b cells- and things like that that we don't know how, um how folks, who were infected, how.

AC

That how much of that immune response is going to last, and so it's a little bit difficult to.

AC

um To equate really the vaccine with the previous infection, some people may be well protected. Some.

AC

People may not be as well protected and that's why. We recommend that even people who have gotten.

AC

Infected, especially with only a mild infection, um do you know, do get the covet vaccine so.

AC

You could probably you know you could probably do some calculations, um but I.

AC

Haven't seen anybody try to do that I'll have to look into it, um but overall we wouldn't. You know.

AC

We wouldn't say that that that that we wouldn't equate that protection with the same protection.

AC

That a vaccine gives so, it would be, you know it's apples and a different kind of apples. I guess.

F

Well, thank you. Are you seeing any uh uptick in adverse reactions to the vaccination to people who.

F

Have been previously infected because I've heard they're cons, there's a concern about that that.

F

People, I've talked to from previous, in fact they got their shot and they had more of an adverse.

F

Reaction to it than those who didn't is that true, I think that we have seen um in the limited.

AC

Number of cases that that has that has been true. I think that sometimes people do have a um you know.

AC

Because you have this, you have people have usually more of a reaction to the second shot, and so it's.

AC

Sort of the same the same thing so um one one person why a doctor at mdh described the vaccine.

AC

As being like a wanted poster, where you kind of it's kind of or you know a note where you're.

AC

Teaching your body, how to look for something bad and fight it next time, and so, if that's what you.

AC

Know the infection kind of gives that same sort of first glance at that wanted poster. Then your.

AC

Body might react a little bit more strongly, and so most of those side effects are just you know your.

AC

Your body reacting: is there your immune system, reacting to um you know to the second shot so.

AC

It is possible that they might have stronger side effects. They may you want to talk to their doctor.

AC

First, you know it may depend on how severe their illness was. um It's you know it's different for.

AC

Every person, but um if they're, if there's concern about that level of side effects, um you know.

AC

It's unpleasant, but for most people it, you know it resolves after a day or two, and it's certainly.

AC

um You know less of a serious long-term issue than you know, than a serious covet infection, so.

AC

I would say if you've been infected before, I would still consider getting vaccinated.

AC

If you're concerned about side effects because you had a pretty serious illness, I would talk to.

AC

Your doctor and see what they say thank you and for the record that the ease people's concerns.

F

We have had no fatalities in carroll county from people being vaccinated. Is that correct.

AC

Absolutely no! No, absolutely not. Thank you very much for clarifying it. I appreciate it and.

A

Again, as you see uh those that are watching we're in here, uh we still have the plexiglas.

A

We've all been vaccinated for over well over two weeks now with our sex impact. Vaccination.

A

We have air purifiers. In other words, we are confident uh that we are doing what's right and.

A

If we weren't, we wouldn't be here so uh you know, we've got to take the appropriate steps in moving.

A

That direction uh to get to normalcy, maggie! Thank you so much uh for you and the team. So let's move.

A

On and I think ted is going to join us to talk about the fy 21k budget. What's that.

E

So we can only hope, ted's going to join us, fyi 21 third quarter, budget update and request approval.

A

Of capital budget resolution transfer of funds, I see ted. Yes, your your hopes have been come true.

E

It's a great day indeed,.

AD

Right uh unless you want me to go into greater detail, I'm gonna do this pretty quickly.

AD

Because there's not a whole lot new to tell you from the last time we talked.

AD

Back the uh the revenue picture, we have not really changed anything in any.

AD

Notable way, the big thing to remember there on our projections of what will be.

AD

In excessive budget is we still have about half of our income tax waiting to to come in we'll get.

AD

Our next big picture at the end of this month and then the rest of it. We don't see until june july.

AD

And august, so that remains a a big question could be we'll get more than we expected, but it.

AD

Could be that we'll get less than we expected on the expenditure side? uh This has changed.

AD

Some uh we we now are projecting a greater amount unspent at the end of the year.

AD

And that is largely because we are past winter weather now and are no longer um expecting or even.

AD

Waiting to see if we have to spend money out of the snow removal budget and, of course, uh as we're.

AD

Close to the end of the year now our reserve for contingencies remains largely unspent. So that's a.

AD

Stronger likelihood that that remains there, then the other thing that has changed is you know: we've.

AD

Talked about the unassigned fund balance the amount that we had at the end of fiscal year, 20.

AD

Which is about 30 million dollars? Our current projection for 21 is about 29 million dollars.

AD

For a total of about 59 million dollars, remember in the budget process and in your proposed budget.

AD

uh You assigned a great deal of that to the this year, 22 budget and to a little bit.

AD

To future budgets, so when we look at our latest expectation for surplus and the.

AD

Uses that you've already put into your budget, we would expect about 11 million dollars to remain.

AD

Unassigned, if everything plays out, as uh we have right now,.

AD

So we're left now just to see what happens with the remainder of the year.

AD

That's that's what we see for now.

AD

Anything else you would like me to go deeper into or any questions.

C

No, I don't think so. I mean that's good to know. I mean that's about where we were before. I don't.

C

Think, there's a whole lot of change there. We knew that that was going to be where it was.

C

So nothing much has changed, as you said, so the increase in unsigned fund balance is.

A

How much from what to what.

AD

I'm not sure what you're asking well, you said: there's 11 million dollars, unassigned.

A

On balance right now, okay, that's it go ahead. That's what remain what is projected to remain.

AD

Right after we figure out everything that will happen with revenues, expenditures.

AD

And take out the um the unassigned that you have now proposed to assign to future budgets.

AD

You know so all the uses that you made of unassigned uh we're saying after you've.

AD

After you've figured all that in we have, we figure about, 11 million dollars will remain.

AD

Okay, which is where it was before pretty much that's what we were thinking.

C

Yeah a little bit higher now because of um an expectation that less will be spent.

A

Yeah and I apologize and that's that's where I'm going, is it's a little bit higher now I mean.

A

Is it you know uh five figures, six figures: what's a little bit higher mean.

A

uh I don't remember okay, where, where it was, but.

AD

Yeah, I'm not sure I I don't know, that's okay, I mean, and the point is I apologize kid real, quick.

AD

She can tell you right, yes, the point is: are we being too guarded uh too fiscally guarded.

A

Throughout the year, or do you feel that we are on course, and really this is you know.

A

Not that big, that dramatic from one to another and that that's kind of where I'm thinking deb.

AE

Well, can I start by answering your question originally um when we did the when we were.

AE

Wrapping up the proposed work session, we had about seven million dollars remaining an unassigned.

AE

Fund balance that we were just going to hold to the side, um and if you recall there was still.

AE

A balance on the bottom line for fy22 and I said that we would reduce the amount that we're using.

AE

Of unassigned fund balance in fy 22 so that the the budget would balance uh so that.

AE

Increased the unassigned fund balance from seven to probably eight something and then.

AE

um What we just did was um in our third quarter projection. uh We recognize 2.4 million dollars.

AE

More of unexpected, um so that brings us up close to that 11 million dollars of unassigned.

Y

Okay, okay, and on your your last question, uh this is playing out as it would in in any.

AD

Year, when we're looking at unexpended, uh we make projections where we think the year's gonna end.

AD

But um when you're making a projection in november you're less certain than you are in february.

AD

And you're less certain than you will be in in may we're just getting closer to the end now so.

AD

It's easier to say: yes, we're confident that this will be left right, okay and then absolutely fair.

A

And I appreciate that. Thank you both any uh any other discussion questions you want to bring up.

A

Okay, is there any action that we need to take at this or just for information? At this point, just.

A

Information: okay, there's two resolutions that we need to um have. You approve, oh yeah, sorry.

A

That's right the self-help and yes, I can go through them. If you want yeah, I don't have them.

AD

In front of me dad, so why don't you do that? Okay, all right! Our first is capital budget resolution.

AE

C, 21.07 um and during these quarterly updates, what we like to do is clean.

AE

Up some of our capital projects, um you know, as as projects close.

AE

Because you know we need your authority to transfer funds, so this first one capital.

AE

Budget resolution 21.07 is the community self-help project. This is a reckon park project where we.

AE

Provide funding for community projects and they are closing- and this is just to bring all of them-.

AE

Back whatever is remaining in those accounts back into the central location which can be distributed.

AE

Later, um with board approval, so I'm asking for you to approve capital resolution number c-21.07.

E

I'll make the motion of board of county commissioners to prove capital budget resolution c-21.07 to transfer funds to close out the community self-help projects? Okay, I.

A

Got a motion. Second, any further discussion on this seeing hearing, none all in favor, all right.

A

Okay: let's go on to uh the next okay operating budget resolution.

AE

0-21.03 during the budget deliberations in the proposed session, we had discussed having.

AE

To do an I.t closet at north carol, high school and the desire was to have that work uh done.

AE

Prior to settling on the sale of that um property, so this is a transfer from the.

AE

Reserve for contingency to facilities and to I.t to accommodate that request.

AE

65 420 would go to technology services to fund the fiber relocation, cabling, switches.

AE

Access points and then 10, approximately 10 000 is needed for facilities to do.

AE

Hvac cooling and wall construction, so I uh request that you approve resolution number.

AE

0.0001.03: okay, I've moved the board of county commissioners approved operating.

D

Budget resolutions 0-21-03 to transfer funds from the reserve for contingency.

D

To technology services, facilities to install technology closet at north carol, high school.

C

Second, I got a motion. Second, any further discussion.

A

Seeing here, none all in favor, aye, aye, aye, okay, five! Oh thank you so much. Okay bear with me.

A

Chris, do we have any public comment at this time? Yes, sir, it appears we do have one caller left.

G

Online writing. I'm muting them now caller. If you could, please identify yourself. You'll have three.

G

Minutes to make public comment hi, yes, uh good good morning, uh commissioners of carroll, county.

R

um What I'm going to discuss today, while it seems almost counterproductive to what was presented.

R

Earlier in the meeting, it is not meant to be have the utmost respect for all that serve the public.

R

I'm also a public servant and I take my oath to serve and protect the public very seriously. I'm a.

R

Strong advocate for ensuring that the government is being ethically and physically respectfully.

R

Disbelieved sorry responsible, while making sure that the public is treated with dignity.

R

And respect and taxpayer funding is being used correctly. Listening to the presentation on the.

R

Sheriff's department, training, simulator purchase and need for additional training does give me.

R

Some encouragement that what happened to me will hopefully not happen to others. However,.

R

That does not take away what happened to me and my child. I've been in homeowning resident of carroll.

R

County maryland for over 20 years, I'm a divorced single parent with a pre-teen child. Who is my.

R

Life and soul. I would like to share with our very disturbing incident I had with the carroll county.

R

Sheriff's department and the commissioner of court for carroll county this experience brought.

R

To light unsettling issues and concerns that I am now hoping to share, I respectfully ask that.

R

I'll allow me to speak to these issues and concerns before anyone else speaks.

R

Okay, since I only have three minutes, I'm actually going to just move forward um with.

R

My concerns so concern number one officers use using entrapment like actions to produce arrests.

R

And citations in order to procure continued budget or meet quotas for the sheriff's department.

R

So many areas of carroll, county, there's low crime and not too many opportunities for.

R

Officers to issue citations or arrests, the lack of these opportunities in my belief, promotes an.

R

Environment, where officers watch certain establishments under find a reason to pull.

R

Someone over so that they can then issue them another reason for a citation or arrest them.

R

I recently had an experience where this happened to me um against only three minutes: I'm going to.

R

Condense it, however, I was just out I put my son to bed. I went out supposed to be him in 45 minutes. I.

R

Dropped off a friend, I picked up some paperwork from a restaurant down the street.

R

Pulled out of the parking lot within two minutes from pulling out the parking lot, I was pulled over.

R

I was pulled over, they I explained to them. I did not have a license. I had an appointment with the.

R

Mva in a couple weeks, because, due to the pandemic and limited in person availability, I had a hard.

R

Time getting an appointment, the officers then came back and told me that I had a suspended license.

R

Which, then I agreed that I told them that I had an appointment with the mba that my license was not.

R

Actually suspended, and I have more information on that if needed at this point in time, they said it.

R

Was too bad, I was getting citations for traffic violations and they were impounding. My vehicle.

R

I told them I couldn't afford to have my car impounded. I should not be held at fault since.

R

Wearing a pandemic makes it extremely hard to get into mba to handle traffic issues, and I would not.

R

Did not agree with what they were doing, because I would not accept the citations. I was then arrested.

R

And taken to the detention center, my car was also towed before I'd even left to go to the detention.

R

Center concern two: not accepting patrol vehicles, dashboard cameras and again I've condensed this.

R

However, upon my arrest, I asked if there was dashboard cameras and was told no.

R

At this point, in this day and age, based on the low cost and easily accessible technology.

R

There's no reason all police vehicles in carroll county do not have this available.

R

And then the third is, which is, which is the most disturbing piece, is the violation of my rights.

R

And indefensible treatments due to exercising my right, I was committed for 16 hours from 11 30 pm.

R

Until 3 30 pm the next day about two hours after my arrest, I had a video hearing uh with.

R

The commissioner of court, his gentleman said his name was commissioner reese. I just received the.

R

Police report, prior to the hearing, I was very upset to see some false information on there.

R

I explained tried to explain this to commissioner reece. He was extremely annoyed with me right away.

R

Told me to let him speak first, I said: okay, he went to the charges or when I've been said, I didn't.

R

Agree with the charges and started to explain why he said he didn't want to hear anything. I had to.

R

Say immediately, I am I'm sorry. I immediately said the hearing's over and hung up the video paul.

R

I was then committed into committed due to that to the issue I was told by everyone.

R

Many times throughout my stay for 16 hours, I should have kept my mouth shut.

R

um I was very upset. I had a young child who was home alone- asleep, I told them he had to be up.

R

For school I had to head over to 6 30, if he's by himself, something happened to him. No one would be.

R

Able to forgive themselves they actually, because I did not put in on the orange jumpsuit they gave.

R

Me they put me in what they called a chair, which is a chair with restraints completely over all.

R

Over the chair, they put me in the chair in a cell for four hours restrained, I asked numerous times.

R

Why exactly was this more important than making sure that I was my child was not a date in danger.

R

And where the welfare of my child was not more important than me being there, and I was told.

R

Again, it was because I would not keep my mouth shut, otherwise it would not be happening to me.

R

And since I did not have much more time, I want to thank you for allowing me this form an opportunity.

R

To tell my story to the board, I know that is the elected board of commissioners for camera county.

R

Maryland you are looking out for all of the best interests in carroll county, including visitors,.

R

Residents, visitors and employees and will probably address my issues and concerns.

A

Yes, ma'am and we did receive all commissioners received your.

A

Comments that you just also shared with us uh for the record, can you uh share with us your name.

R

It's uh o'brien o'brien, o-b-r-I-e-n, okay, thank you very much. Miss o'brien! Thank you. Bye-Bye, okay,.

A

Chris, are there any further public comments? There does not appear to be any more public callers.

G

On the line today, okay, thank you. We could take down the uh the timer um anything for open admin.

A

Roberta, I know you have a couple things, or at least the one well um so.

H

Discussed we have 40 characters on the tax bills that I'm going to use to encourage folks to get.

H

Vaccinated and what the health department and our team here have come up with and just want your.

H

Blessing before we go forward with it, they need to be printed tomorrow, so we don't have a lot.

H

Of time um is uh it'll, be two lines. It'll say: need your covet 19 vaccine with a question mark.

H

Register or walk in colon and then it says the carroll county health department, dot, mdgov.

H

Dot maryland cchd.maryland.gov website should have just read it rather than trying to abbreviate it.

H

Separately, basically, it's a need, your covet 19 vaccine register or walk in and then tell people.

H

Where to go websites on there, that's the website, you pretty much use all the characters tomorrow,.

C

Because it would have been nice to put their phone number on there. Oh, no! That's using them all!.

C

Yeah, okay, it's 340. because a lot of folks in my area don't have internet.

A

Well, do you think it's uh more valuable to put the phone number or the website.

C

I don't know I mean I I mean I mean I, you know we I go through this every time we do something like.

C

This it's just expected that people have internet 20 of my district doesn't so yeah, but I mean so.

C

You're telling people to go to a website that they can't go to well, wouldn't you think most of them.

H

Have at least a cell phone I don't know, do they have internet on their cell phone? I don't know.

C

I I talk to people that can't get a signal with their cell phone.

C

I mean I know you are used to having all the amenities, that's wonderful for you, but I've got.

C

A lot of folks in my district that do not so we I mean we, we think it's a good idea to put this on.

A

The belt I mean you definitely because you you're the one who brought up. I think it is a great idea.

A

The question is: do we put a phone number or a website because we're limited in characters? I'm.

A

I don't want to say I'm agnostic to it. I just want to get another way to get it out to the community.

A

And whatever we can do wherever we believe that community should be targeted, should then dictate.

A

Whether we use numbers or a website- and I'm so you're talking about 10, more characters to put up.

C

Let me down 40.

C

I don't know maybe cut down on need a cove. Instead of making a question make it. You know.

C

Coveted vaccine, okay and put the website and the phone number yeah. You know, plus there's a lot of.

C

Older folks, that really pay attention to those tax bills and a lot of them don't use or know how to.

C

Go to websites, it's not just about not having a signal or a internet. It's about these folks that.

C

I mean 84 and 85 year old folks, you ask them to go to a website and they're like what.

C

So I think it's important to list a phone number somehow.

H

So, what's the first line need your covet, 19 vaccine so say you need cover vaccine. You.

E

Need a cover, vaccine yeah, need then the website and that's that's a really good one or just make.

C

It covered vaccine and put the website in the phone. Well, I think you can put knee to cover.

E

Vaccine because it would all fit there, yeah yeah. Okay, I don't know, I think it's important to have.

C

I don't want to weigh one over the other. I think it's important to get both somehow.

H

Okay, we'll work on it; okay, but as long as it's, if we add the phone number everyone's okay with.

C

That basic idea- yes, okay, because thank you. It was either that or a picture of commissioner frazier.

A

So we decided to go with this. Yes, it was awesome, it was toss-up, it was um 10 seconds.

A

No but good point, not the 10 seconds, but um what uh anything else from open admin. um I.

A

Just want to again uh share my appreciation uh in the development, uh the budget development process.

A

Getting the community out there uh as we've shared, and uh you know the the importance of transparency.

A

And we're doing our best in doing that uh once it's all done we'll be focusing on executing the.

A

Budget and the laws of this county and, as always, we're always available to the community. um Whether.

A

It's on the phone on an email. uh You know you can find us uh pretty easily. You know going to.

A

Our website again appreciate it chris swam, for all that you're doing and keeping that update.

A

I need an approval of the minutes from may 6th uh on public security. I moved to.

D

Approve the budgets on uh may 6th uh on public security. What did you say, commission minutes.

E

Minutes you said the budgets. Oh, I thought upstairs closed minutes of may 6.. Okay, I got a motion. I.

A

Think second- and I got a second any comments- all in favor all right: okay, going through agendas.

A

Wow towards the end of may may 17th. We have nothing on may 18th. We have anabolic basu, uh we'll.

A

Be with the chamber of commerce? Currently we have uh commissioner weaver wants and myself attending.

A

Planning and zoning commission uh meeting with commissioner wants.

A

I take it. uh Dan huff will be leaving that board yeah as a matter of fact, he's gonna. The way that.

C

Tim, you, you got involved in that little discussion, but the way it's gonna work is he's gonna sign on that day and uh then abruptly resign.

C

So we are going to have an opening on there. Okay, we're going to have to address that.

C

Do we? Yes, we do okay, good.

C

Okay and then at 12 p.m, uh that afternoon springboard community services groundbreaking.

A

Ceremony, uh commissioner, wants frasier and I will all be attending.

A

uh We will go into open session at 1pm to have a work session on our budget.

A

At 2pm, if available commercial weaver, and I will be attending the veterans.

A

Advisory council meeting on wednesday, the 19th- uh it is first responders appreciation day.

A

And throughout the uh the county commissioner wants, and I will be uh participating in that.

A

um I think delivering food and uh you know to different uh stations. There will be a.

A

Carroll county community board meeting where commissioner wants to be attending at 4 p.m.

A

And at 4 30 the drug court treatment graduation, where commissioner weaver frazier and I will be.

A

Attending over at uh carroll community college um on thursday, we will have open session at 9 00 a.m.

A

We will talk about industrial one text amendment. We will talk about a housing bond allocation from.

A

uh Harman assistant services, where actually it's a transfer of funds for housing bond allocation.

A

About approving and accepting coronavirus, state and local fiscal recovery fund awards.

A

uh From mr zalewski we will see, requests I'll, prove uh there'll, be a request to approve an.

A

Exercise: option to purchase the scott, albin and joyce alvin property in the critical farms program.

A

We'll talk about our state directives, update mr singer from uh health department, either him or.

A

Maggie will be uh coming, then we'll go into open admin, thursday, hey that drug court, graduation.

C

I don't think it's at the college. It's at the courthouse annex in the courtyard.

A

Outside, oh, it's not the amphitheater. No, I don't think so. You might just want to. You might want to.

C

Check it yeah, I think they're doing it right here outdoors. I thought it was it's right behind me.

A

A

And then at 12 p.m. The uh chamber of commerce will have a member meeting.

A

With dr roger case and julia jackson and commissioner frazier will be attending that.

C

um That's the farewell for him: isn't it yes and introducing rodriguez next one right, yeah, okay,.

A

We will go into uh open session at 1pm, uh a second uh work session for adopting the budget.

A

If, if necessary and then at 2pm magic showcase uh magic, which is the non-profit here in westminster,.

A

Will have a showcase on autonomous vehicles and a ribbon cutting and commissioner frazier and.

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I will be attending that exciting news. I thought favorite copperfield's coming down. There still is.

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A bengal tiger loose in florida somewhere. We know that so uh on friday, there's nothing on saturday.

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We have the dream big union bridge duck derby in all preparations staying safe. Commissioner.

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Boucher will be attending that with ducks that will be masked. I know I know you probably can't.

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See this on camera, I wish we could get a close-up, but here is the duck with its mask on boucher.

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I'm sure you do and, uh however, I think we're going to be good to go without masks in open activities.

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For the duck derby, according to the outside right side, but they're in accordance with the.

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Governor but the duck will protect themselves. The duck is still very concerned. They were lined up.

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Next to each other, but I am saying himself, I'm not sure if it's herself or himself.

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It could be a small duck, a baby duck and a small and a large, never mind.

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I will be given the podcast uh on sunday and it'll be an award ceremony that commissioner.

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Boucher will be attending over creme gold park uh for the youth fishing derby on may 24th. Nothing.

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On tuesday, the 25th we have an open session at 1pm, where we will be adopting our budget.

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It should be a very short session on wednesday may 26th, but a very important session may 26th.

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Commission on aging and disabilities, commissioner, lance will be attending on thursday may 27th. We.

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Have open session starting at 9., a decision will be made on the water in sewer spring amendment.

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As we heard this morning, we listened to this morning. We have a tentative adoption.

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For the budget, if necessary and what's that yeah if things have to get pushed- and that will be it.

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For the rest of that week and the may 30th looking forward to hearing commissioner lance's podcast.

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uh That'll actually be memorial day and what I'd like to do.

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On that one, just to give you a heads up ed, I think you and I should tag team that sure.

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That sounds good. All right, I may want to switch with you on that. One.

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Okay, I have one done for memorial day. uh We video we did. I was gonna, say we can go whatever summer.

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Happens? Okay, that's fine, but one one of you, two guys. Okay, I mean if one of you two wants.

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To take it, I I'll give that one up, because we'll just switch, we don't give them up. No, no, I said.

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I need a motion to go into uh closed for legal device and then land acquisition.

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And then a motion to return after that make a motion going to close.

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For legal advice and emotionally going to close for land acquisition as well.

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Okay got motion second, to go. It's closed for legal advice and land acquisition.

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Conversation all in favor, aye, aye, aye, okay and then I need a motion to adjourn after that move to.

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Adjourn after session second, okay, I got motion and a second any comments, all in favor aye aye for one.

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