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A
Okay,
thanks
everyone
for
being
here.
This
is
a
meeting
for
us
to
talk
about
the
short-term
initiatives
that
will
help
the
community
advisor
success
in
this
fun
aid
coming
up
and
also
to
start
start,
maybe
putting
a
group
together
to
vision
and
be
in
involved
in
the
process
of
education
and
onboarding
overall
for
community
advisors
moving
forward.
A
So
there
are
some
short-term
things
with
the
registration
opening
and
the
need
to
update
and
improve
the
community
advisor
guidebook
for
this
coming
term
and
then
also
it's
more
of
a
long-term
conversation
about
what
we,
what
we
might
see
and
envision
in
the
future,
tommy
I'm
gonna
repost.
Here
we
got
two
documents
for
this
meeting
and
maybe
I'll
open
by
saying
that
a
lot
has
been
recommended.
A
I
think
that
we
have
a
pretty
good
sense
of
the
of
the
needs
for
the
changes
to
the
guidebook
now
that
we
have
some
sense
of
the
iog
changes
for
this
coming
term.
So
if
we
can
maybe
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
today,
come
to
some
consensus
on
what
those
key
points
are
and
really
make
recommendations
at
the
end
of
the
after
town
hall
tomorrow.
A
A
B
B
Ownership
of
that
guidelines
document
previously
speed,
iog
phil's
been
kind
of
dabbling
in
it,
everybody
else
has
been
putting
the
comments,
who's,
who's,
taking
responsibility,
and
I'm
not
volunteering
to
to
to
to
find
updates.
A
Yeah,
so
what
we?
What
we
had
talked
about
on
the
after
town
hall
last
week,
was
that
we
would
come
together
and
maybe
just
go
into
the
document
and
make
comments
and
danny
had
then
requested
of
us
that
we
come
back
with
concrete
and
actionable
things.
Put
this
here,
make
sure
it
says
this
kind
of
stuff,
so
what
I'm
thinking
might
be
most
streamlined,
especially
so
we
don't
get
any
long
dialogue
about
it
tomorrow
and
we
have
time
to
talk
about
the
vca
process.
Is
that
we
say
something
like
you
know.
A
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
prevent
those
who
have
been
using,
who
approached
the
assessment
process
by
templating
and
who
have
good
intentions
in
doing
that,
that
we
really
make
it
clear
how
the
how
the
similarity
assessment
script
is
going
to
maybe
affect
that.
So
we
prepare
people
so
that
they're
not
so
we
have
something
to
refer
back
to
and
that
so
that
kind
of
thing
we
that
we
make
specific
recommendations
there
and.
A
Prepare
people
for
any
any
changes
that
are
going
to
come
about
as
far
as
how
we
assess
based
on
what's
been
put
out
there
does
that.
Does
that
right
back
to
danny
and
say
here's
this!
Here's,
this
here's,
this
they're
going
to
be
able
to
make
those
adjustments
and
we'll
at
least
have
that
in
place
for
for
fun
date.
Yeah
make
sense.
A
Okay,
so,
and
then
so-
maybe
I'll
just
sort
of
take
the
reins
of
that.
That
part
of
this
meeting
and
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
allison,
and
we
can
do
more
of
the
visioning
and
talking
about
different
different
solutions.
Okay
sounds.
A
Okay,
so
here
is
the
tommy,
do
you
have?
Did
you
get
both
of
those?
Can
someone
repost
those
two
links
for
tommy
there
and
I
will
share
my
screen
so
we
can
yep.
So
I
cannot
be
doing
too
many
things
at
once.
I.
D
B
A
Yeah,
so
why
don't
we
when
we
put
in
place
here,
I
think
the
with
this
with
this
group.
All
of
you
have
been
involved
in
this
discussion
for
a
long
time,
anything
beyond
the
the
copy
paste
addressing
the
copy
paste.
A
And
I
think
that's
maybe
one
of
the
key
ones.
F
A
And
then
what
we'll
probably
do
is
come
away
from
this
and
maybe
write
write
some
content,
but
it
should
be
pretty
straightforward
and
we
can
give
an
example
from
last
time
and
sort
of
explain
this.
The
second
thing
is
the
length
requirements
so
tommy
you
brought
up
in
the
in
the
previous
after
town
hall.
The
long
assessment
doesn't
mean
a
quality
assessment
and
we
also
have
one
word
or
less
or
short
character
assessments,
so
those
two
things
will
be
filtered
out.
We
can
do
clarification
on
those.
Is
there
agreement
on
that.
A
A
B
B
F
B
E
F
B
That's
great,
so
the
third
bullet
which
we
did
pick
up
between
what,
once
the
once
the
review
spontaneous
assessments
came
out,
is
what
we
were
calling
nonsensical
or
nonsense
assessment.
So
immediately
after
immediately
after
the
ca
assessments
are
released,
this
should
be
a
a
one
or
two
day
review
process
for
people
to
flag
back
on
the
nonsensical
ones.
You
know
like
the
internet,
repair
guy
and
there
was
a
guy
who
just
wrote,
150
assessments,
which
were
all
eventually
all
filtered
out,
but
they
got
through,
but
they
just
shouldn't
have
been
there
and
they'll.
B
Be
they'll,
be
stuff
like
that.
So
if
somebody
writes
then
now
it's
gonna
get
that
should
get
discarded
right.
A
Well,
especially
if
you're
using
that
and
then
copy
pasting
it
that
that
was
one
of
the
comments
that
that
happened
and
then
was
copy
pasted.
So
those
are
definitely
two
different
issues.
I
don't
know
how
to
address
that
one.
I
think
you
know
if
you
get
the,
if
the
meaning
is
there
and
it's
and
it
can
be
determined
as
meaningful,
there
is
there's
a
good
amount
of
if,
if
it
is
a
reasonable
assessment,
then
there's
a
good
amount
of
that's
where
the
vca
really
can
and
can
give
their
input.
A
F
B
Yeah
and
then
the
duplication,
copy
pasting
should
pick
that
up
with
people
putting
the
same
thing
into
into
you
will
translate
multiple
times
and
share
and
get
across
cas
they'll
catch
them.
So
the
piece
on
the
back
of
these
items
that
we
we
instill
a
gap
is
who
decides
that
these
things
are
so
once
they're
flagged?
Who
decides
that
they
should?
They
should
be
discarded
so
in
fund
seven.
B
It
was
either
marek
unilaterally
or
iog,
either
before
or
after
the
bca
phase.
It's
kind
of
it
just
happened
without
any
of
us
being
involved.
We
flagged
things
and
then
they
at
some
point
decided
in
some
cases
they
decided
against
the
vca,
the
the
vca
results,
because
they
just
decided
these
are
all
bots.
Let's
can
them,
but
they
decided
that
right
at
the
end
of
the
process.
B
So,
ideally,
in
between
that
c,
a
and
b
c
a
pros
in
that
week,
you
need
a
process
or
either
a
group
to
come
together
to
review
those
those
things
are
being
flagged.
So
we
get
the
output
from
the
copy-pasting
acceptance,
the
the
signature,
analysis,
the
length
analysis
and
the
nonsensical,
and
they
just
form
a.
They
need
a
decision-making
group
to
decide
whether
these
should
actually
be
discarded
or
has
somebody
just
been
caught
up
in
a
in
in
some
day-to-day
head
analysis.
B
It's
a
conversation
for
for
the
town
hall
tomorrow,
when
it's
a
bca
or
ing,
I
think
it
just
needs.
We
need
to
trial
something
this
this
fund,
or
we
just
say
my
wreck,
is
down
to
you.
You
decide
you're,
counting
people
again
or
not.
B
A
B
G
A
G
Yes,
I
know
about
this,
but
you
like
you,
can
make
a
bot
with
a
dictionary
that
can
never
repeat
itself,
but
it's
still
about.
But
if
you
put
a
simple
you
know,
I'm
a
human
or
where
are
the
trains
in
that
picture?
Kind
of
check
in
somewhere
in
between
the.
F
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
that
can
happen
along
those
lines
for
fund
eight.
I
mean
nadia
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
let
I
would
like
to
come
back
to
that
when
we
talk
about
the
medium
and
long-term
initiatives,
because
that
proof
of
humanity
step
fits
into
something
that
I'm
I'm
working
on
when
it
comes
to
ca,
onboarding
and
training
using
self-sovereign
identity.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
think
the
issue
was
so
much
bots.
The
issue
was
that
there
were
people
using
some
kind
of
software
to
come
up
with
these
very
eloquent
assessments
and
then
they
posted
them
by
themselves,
most
likely.
So
I
understand.
D
But
what
we
did
suggest
kind
of
half
jokingly
was
that,
let's
just
before
the
submission
deadline,
let's
post
three
kind
of
off
the
wall
proposals
that
no
human
in
their
right
mind
would
ever
assess.
But
if,
if
there
are
some
fake
cas
there,
who
don't
really
even
read
what
they
are
assessing,
then
we
could
catch
them.
A
H
A
G
A
B
Is
it
worth
adding
a
bullet
point
to
the
short
term
term?
Anything
we
can
call
it
honeypots.
I
need
popcorn.
A
This
is
not.
This
is
not
on
the
agenda.
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna,
guess
technically
it
is
okay,
so
I
think
that's
a
short-term
stuff.
The
other
thing
that
I
was
thinking
is
perhaps
this
perhaps
these
could
go
to
victor
and
to
lucio
for
the
upcoming.
I
don't
mean
to
cram
more
stuff
into
the
workshop,
but
perhaps
these
are
just
mentions
that
could
go
into
the
workshops
that
are
happening
this
weekend.
A
That
would
certainly
be
ideal
to
have
that
captured
in
there
and
then
yeah.
So
hopefully
we
if
we
get
all
that
together
and
then
we
we
send
it
through
then,
and
we
make
it
very
clear.
I
think
that's
a
good
potential
and
at
least
we'll
have
addressed
the
things
that
we
won't
in
retrospect
in
retrospect,
wish
that
we
had
addressed
okay,
I
think
that's
it
for
me,
maybe
maybe
we'll
go
to
allison,
and
this
is
also
like
for
input
from
everyone
as
far
as
other
ideas
that
maybe
aren't
here.
F
Yeah,
so
thank
you
nadia.
I
think
I
know
most
of
you
here,
but
what
I
have
really
gotten
excited
about
is
self-sovereign
identity.
So
I
was
a
prism
pioneer
and
I
think
that
cardano,
I
think
that
the
whole
field
of
self-sovereign
identity
is
really
important,
and
I
think
that
cardano's
technology
offers
a
fantastic
opportunity
to
promote
cardano,
but
also
there
are
so
many
places
within
catalyst
that
could
benefit
from
self-sovereign
identity
technology.
So
what
I'm?
F
So
anybody
wanting
to
serve
as
a
ca
would
have
to
go
through
a
basic
onboarding
course
and
at
the
end
of
the
course
the
ca
who
passes
the
course
would
be
issued
a
decentralized
credential
that
they
would
keep
in
their
own
wallet.
So
it's
doing
for
identity,
the
same
thing
that
blockchain
has
done
for
currency
or
value.
You
hold
your
credential
yourself
in
your
wallet
and
then,
when
the
ca
goes
into
idea,
scale
to
register
to
write
reviews.
F
They
would
need
to
present
that
credential
to
prove
that
they've
been
through
the
onboarding
course,
and
that
would
do
a
couple
of
things
it
would.
You
would
have
to
prove
it
would.
It
would
be
a
required
proof
of
humanity,
because
you
would
have
had
to
go
through
the
course
and
be
issued.
The
credential
anonymity
would
be
retained
because
that's
one
of
the
benefits
of
decentralized
identity
is
that
you
don't
have
to
give
your
name.
You
can
just
prove
that
you've
passed
the
course
by
displaying
the
credential.
F
Just
like
you
would
give
your
ada
wallet
and
the
other
benefit
is
that,
then
the
community
would
start
to
keep
the
detailed
data
and
information
about
ca
history
in
their
own
wallets.
It
wouldn't
be
centralized
and
stored
in
idea
scale.
F
So
that's
a
project
that
I
would
that
I'm
going
to
propose
in
fund
8,
where
my
focus
will
be
on
the
self-sovereign
identity
and
bringing
that
technology
to
the
process.
But
I'm
really
looking
for
feedback
from
expert
cas
around
what
the
education
and
onboarding
process
would
look
like.
So
that's
a
medium
term
initiative
I
mean
the
earliest.
F
It
could
possibly
be
even
piloted
with
say
one
challenge
to
see
how
it
worked
and
if
it
made
an
impact
to
the
quality
of
reviews
would
be
fun,
nine,
probably
or
you
know,
possibly
even
fun
10,
but
once
we
bring
the
concept
of
decentralized
identity
to
the
ca
process.
There
are
all
sorts
of
ways
that
it
could
be
expanded.
F
So
the
technology
has
all
kinds
of
different
possibilities
and
benefit
that
it
could
bring
to
catalyst
in
general
into
the
ca
process
in
particular,
and
I'm
looking
for
feedback
from
from
the
education
side
from
the
cas
who
are
interested
in
education.
So
I
appreciate
nadia
bringing
me
into
this
particular
group
to
think
about
how
we
would
create
the
education
and
onboarding
content
that
could
dovetail
with
the
ssi
technology,
so
I'll
stop
talking
there
and
would
welcome
feedback
or
questions
or
nadia.
I'm
not
sure.
If
there
was
more.
A
Yeah
this
is
a
this
is
a
conversation
for
us
to
bring
ideas
like
this
to
the
table
and
hash
them
out
and
see
if
they
work.
So
we
could,
I
think,
get
a
good
discussion
about
this
and
I'm
sure
everyone
has
other
things
they
want
to
give
input
on
too.
So,
let's
just
start
there
and
talk
about
this
idea
and
work
it
through
and
see
what
what
the
sense
is
and
go
from
there.
F
And
I
didn't
really
give
a
huge
amount
of
explanation
for
how
ssi
that
self-sovereign,
identity
and
cardano's
implementation
of
self-sovereign
identity
is
the
italia
prism
solution.
I'm
happy
to
talk
more
about
how
that
works
and
how
it
might
fit
into
the
ca
process.
But
I
guess
the
first
question
I
would
ask
because
it's
a
it's
an
important
one
is
what
are
your
thoughts
on
making
a
basic
education
and
onboarding
course
a
requirement
for
becoming
a
ca?
G
I'm
ready
to
go,
my
network
is
slow,
so
I
obviously
cannot
put
the
video
on
I'm
trying
to
but
to
be
audio
for
now.
So
my
first
thoughts
were
so
first
thing,
I'm
all
for
the
education
before
becoming
a
ca
like
for
me.
It's
a
no-brainer,
but
another
thing
I
ask
myself:
how
do
you
prove
your
qualifications.
F
The
credentialing
course
would
be
something
very
basic
around
you
know.
Have
you
read
the
ca
guidebook?
Do
you
know
where
it
is
or
or
you
know
the
course
would
be-
here's
where
the
ca
guidebook
lives?
Here's
you
should
read
it
and
then
there'd
be
some
kind
of
basic.
Do
you
know
where
the
ca
guidebook
is
question
and
you
you
know
the
education
would
be.
You
have
to
fill
out
all
three
fields.
If
you
leave
one,
you
know,
if
you
leave
the
feasibility
section
blank,
your
review
won't
be
accepted.
F
So
for
the
pilot,
I'm
envisioning
the
really
basic
fundamental
things
that
a
person
must
know
in
order
to
effectively
be
a
ca,
but
the
way
I'm
setting
up
the
proposal,
I'm
looking
to
partner
with
somebody
like
this
experts
in
this
group
or
the
catalyst
school
to
really
come
together
and
say.
Yes,
these
are
the
basic
things
that
a
ca
should
know
before
they
can
be
a
ca
and
the
things
we
all
know
and
take
for
granted.
But
if
you
were
on
boarding
a
new
ca,
this
is
what
you
would.
You
would
really
have
to
know.
G
A
I
think
one
of
the
questions
here
is-
maybe
maybe
the
focus
is
a
lot
of
what
we're
doing
in
a
precautionary
way
here
that
the
first
part
of
this
conversation
is:
how
do
we
prevent
not?
How
do
we
prevent
low
quality
stuff
and
then
the
other
side
is
we
had
5
000
non-filtered
out
assessments
by
people
who
may
or
may
not
return
so
when
they
get
here,
how
successful
can
we
help
them
be
in
the
beginning?
If
the
intention
is
to
be
successful,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
have
a?
A
How
do
we
have
things
in
place
that
help
them
to
understand
what
their,
what
their
expectations
are
and
how
to
fulfill
them?
And
then
how
do
we
develop
those
people
so
that
we
have,
as
this
role
develops,
that
we
have
more
and
more
people
who
get
really
well
versed
at
creating
excellent
assessments
so
that
those
five
thousand?
How
do
we
move
those
from
good
to
excellent
and
what
are
some
these?
I
think
that
really
is
kind
of
the
center
of
this
discussion.
How
do
we,
how
do
we
improve
our
people.
F
Yeah,
that's
really
well
said,
nadia
that
focus
on
encouraging
and
supporting
the
positive
as
well
as
reacting
to
the
negative
and
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
do
with
a
pilot
would
be
to
to
pick
one
challenge,
and
you
know
it
would
make
sense
to
do
it
in
the
decentralized
identification
challenge
that
this
onboarding
process
would
apply
to,
so
that
we
could
measure.
What
are
the
reviews?
F
Look
like
in
that
challenge,
where
cas
had
to
go
through
the
onboarding
credentialing
process
versus
the
other
challenges
where
they
don't
does,
does
having
an
onboarding
requirement,
make
a
difference
to
the
quality
of
the
reviews
and
actually
nadia.
You
made
a
really
good
point.
It
wouldn't
be
possible
to
do
it
over
the
course
of
one
fund,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
over
the
course
of
a
couple
of
funds.
F
A
To
to
elia's
point
from
earlier
as
well,
we
have
we
have
a
lot
of
industries
areas
where
industry-specific
knowledge
is
very
important
to
be
able
to
really
assess
the
impact
and
feasibility
and
auditability
of
the
proposals.
So
as
a
as
an
idea
that
could
come
from
this
as
well
does
it
is?
Does
it
make
sense?
Is
it
something
that
this
group
can
see
as
a
positive
that
we
could
also
credential
for,
like
I'm
credentialed,
to
assess
things
in
this
category
that
maybe
require
a
different
different
input?
A
A
Not
not
as
viable
as
it
seems
like
it
could
be
so
or
more
viable
than
it
seems
like
it
could
be.
B
F
B
But
also
if,
if
you're
putting
another
way
around
that,
if
we're
putting
ssi
in
and
that
enables
a
feedback
loop,
so
you
that
they
can
remain
anonymous,
but
they
gen
that
feedback
that
comes
from
vca's
or
or
wherever
it
actually
gets
back
stuff.
Now,
they're.
The
only
way
of
sca
getting
feedback
for
themselves
is
to
go
and
dig
out
their
own
assessments
at
the
end
of
the
process
and
take
take.
F
Yeah,
that's
a
really
interesting
idea.
I
think
that
you
could
do
that
and
maintain
an
anonymity,
because
one
of
the
things
that
decentralized
ids
do
is
that
you
could
have
peer-to-peer
connections
outside
of
idea
scale
while
remaining
anonymous.
I
think
I'm
gonna
have
to
research
that,
but
that's
a
really
interesting
idea
improve
the
feedback.
Loop.
D
D
The
reason
why
the
reason
why
I'm
silent
is
that
I
don't
want
to
go
and
educate
other
ces,
because
I
suck
as
a
cs.
F
I
mean
this
is
nothing
to
do
with
my
project,
but
it's
a,
I
think.
It's
an
issue
in
the
ca
process
is
that
proposers
have
figured
out
that
when
they
get
a
review,
that's
critical,
they
flag
it
and
it,
and
that
leads,
can
lead
to
the
reviews
being
filtered
out.
But
we
shouldn't
be
filtering
out
reviews
just
because
they're
critical.
A
B
Just
coming
back
to
the
the
first
question
of:
do
we
have
enough
cas
and
actually
the
more
I'm
thinking
about
it?
It's
do
we
at
some
point.
I
think
we'll
need
to
take
a
hit
if
we're
going
to
if
we're
going
to
prioritize
quality
over
quantity.
So
at
the
moment,
up
until
now,
it's
been
let's
just
get
as
many
people
in
as
possible.
B
Call
me
call
you
for
your
mates,
call
for
everybody,
everybody,
you
know
and
get
them
to
be
a
ca
irrespective
of
what
sort
of
quality,
so
I
think,
putting
a
entry,
a
barrier
to
entry
in
place,
whether
it's
a
a
test
or
a
course
or
whatever,
I
think,
is
a
good
idea,
and
if
that
means
for
a
fund
or
two
you
get
less
cas,
but
higher
quality,
it
will
start
to
grow
from
there.
Otherwise
we're
just
going
to
keep
within
this
vicious
cycle.
D
Yeah
right,
I
have
a
good
analog
from
from
the
non-profit
sector,
where
we
were
really
scared
of
introducing
any
like
selection
criteria
for
members.
We
were
like,
oh
no,
but
we
can't
select
our
members
because
then
we
don't
get
any.
But
the
moment
we
started
selecting
our
members.
The
membership
went
through
the
roof
and
we
got
like
10
times
more
people
in,
and
it
just
goes
to
show
that
when
you
raise
the
quality,
you
also
could
raise
the
quantity.
F
D
Yeah
definitely
so
in
non-profit.
Well,
I
made
a
thesis
about
it,
so
you
can
read
them
so
in
the
non-profit
sector.
It's
very
important
to
find
those
like
non-monetary
ways
of
rewarding
people
and
if
something
is
perceived
as
valuable,
then
they
go
for
that.
So
it's
it
was
a
trick
from
us,
but
it
worked.
G
That's
what
I
was
thinking
is
that
I
guess
we
can
bring
a
lot
of
new
cas
if
we
flash
in
front
of
people's
eyes
and
we
advertise
a
little
bit.
D
G
F
F
D
B
That's
what
I
don't
know,
that's
that's
the
gap.
We've
got
where
we've
written
bca.
So
so
the
timely
assessments
are
released
to
propose
us.
It
also
gets
released
to
the
to
the
rest
of
the
world.
So
during
that,
during
that
week
it
shouldn't
take
more
than
a
day
or
two
for
a
bunch
of
people
to
to
look
look
for
dodgy
assessments.
B
B
B
B
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
we'll
learn
that
once
we'll
learn
that
from
quite
fundamental,
so
you
know
yeah
we'll
track
these,
these
similarity
assessments
and
then
the
nonsense
go
and
take
that
back
into
in
into
the
into
the
education
materials.
For
for
next
time,
somebody
some
some
somebody
will
come
up
with
a
new,
a
new
fancy
way
of
gaming,
the
system
next
in
fun
day
and
then
we'll
have
to
feed
that
back
in.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit,
learn
as
we
go,
but.
D
E
B
There's
two
parts
of
the
process
just
to
be
clear
on
what
I'm
saying,
so
anybody
can
do
the
analytical
analysis
as
long
as
they've
got
access
to
the
access
to
the
spreadsheet
and
know
how
to
know
how
to
know
how
to
analyze
the
data
or
what
they're
not
doing.
That's
looking
for
specific
problem
areas
within
within
the
within
the
within
the
assessments,
so
we're
not
doing
the
full
vca
review.
Marketing
is
good,
excellent,
built
it
out
what
we're
looking
for
is
things
to
flag
and
then
that
should
go
to
a
a
decision-making
body.
B
B
D
Yeah
there
was
a
bunch
of
us,
including
mathias,
who
went
into
very
deep
into
this
and
ilia
it's
a
little
bit
more
complicated
than
how
it
sounds,
because
you
need
to
compare
not
just
individual
cas
but
is
in
comparison
to
other
cas,
because
they
can
be
double
accounts
by
the
same
people
or
they
can
be
groups
of
people
doing
it
together
or
whatever.
I
don't
even
know.
B
D
A
F
A
Okay,
so
on
that
note
what
what
else
do
we
have
here?
What
else
could
be?
So
it
sounds
like
there's.
It
sounds
like
this
is
a
this
is
a
direction
that
is
feasible,
that
we
shouldn't
set
the
bar
too
high,
so
we're
not
doing
a
40-hour
course
to
become
a
community
advisor,
but
maybe
there's
just
some
some
like
simple,
simple
things,
and
then
I
kind
of
I
kind
of
think
about
it.
Like
a
almost
like
a
a
develop
a
development
tool,
it
could
easily
be
a
development
tool
where
you
continue.
A
Maybe
you
need
to
demonstrate
that
you
have
certain
understandings
to
participate
in
what?
What
does
the
group
think
about
that?
Do
you
about
having
credentials
to
assess
certain
categories
that
require
field
knowledge
or
industry
knowledge?
Is
that
a
is
that
a
down
the
road
kind
of
a
thing
that
would
be
helpful?
I.
G
F
I
mean
this
is
you
know
a
long-term
initiative?
It
could
either
be
something
that
shows
up
when
the
ca
writes
their
assessment,
that
the
voter
could
see
that
this
ca
has
that
credential
and
therefore
perhaps
give
their
assessment
more
weight,
or
it
could
be
a
gating
item
that
you
can't
assess
challenges
or
you
can't
assess
proposals
in
a
decentralized
identification
challenge.
If
you
don't
have
some
sort
of
credential.
That
shows
you
know
something
about
self-sovereign
id
and
and
making
it
part
of
a
optional
reputation.
F
D
Yeah,
I
think
that
works
really
well,
when
we
have
community
advisors
who
are
community
advisors
who
are
not
proposer
proposal,
assessors
only
so
you
could
have
your
proposal
submitted
before
the
submission
deadline
to
a
person
like
this
for
review
and
they
would
go
through
it
and
say.
Okay,
here
is
my
seal
of
approval.
You
have
considered
everything
or
that
they
could
give
it's
almost
like.
D
What
is
it
called
like
ceratic
and
these
these
things?
What
do
they
do?
Anyways?
I
hope
you
get
my
point,
so
you
would
get
it
assessed
by
someone
beforehand
and
they
would
say
that.
Okay,
have
you
considered
this
this
and
this
other
than
that?
It's
a
pass.
G
Yeah,
but
in
this
way
you
are
putting
a
bottleneck
on
the
on
the
like.
If
there
is
a
an
organization
that
issues
these
certificates
for
the
people
that
can
then
stamp
with
approval
certain
proposals,
then
we
have
an
obvious
way
to
control
the
whole
system.
F
That's
true,
too,
and
actually
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
see
in
the
long
run,
to
avoid
exactly
that
is
that
there
could
be
multiple
groups
competing
groups
that
are
running
ca,
onboarding
courses,
so
that
there's
not
just
one
place.
You
could
go
to
to
get
your
credential
to
become
a
ca
for
exactly
that
reason
that
maybe
catalyst
school
has
one
maybe
iog
does
their
own.
F
But
that's
me
sort
of
dreaming
and
down
the
road.
D
F
A
Well,
yes,
and
also
like
it's
been
said
to
me
a
few
times
that
it
is
there's
a
groundhog
day
element
to
it
because,
like
you
cut
that
some
of
the
things
that
ilia
is
saying,
I
feel
like
were
the
things
that
also,
I
noticed
when
I
was
newer
to
it,
which
wasn't
so
long
ago
and
probably
there's
a
ilia
nadia
before
that
and
a
you
know
the
a
long
like
like
that
scene
in
star
wars,
where
she
confronts
the
dark
side
and
it
just
hurt
a
mirror
forever.
A
I
think
the
the
one
of
the
things
being
worked
on
is
is
more
of
a
repository
for
us
to
collaborate
on
these
and
for
those
things
to
be
collected,
and
that's
that's
a
little
bit.
That's
one
of
the
key
things
that
we
have
to
do
as
far
as
the
ca
group
overall
is
get
our
hands
on
the
reins
of
the
process
of
project
management
and
how
we're
communicating
together.
A
So
I
think
I
think
that
I
don't
know
I
would
defer
to
the
ogs
in
this
group
as
well,
but
I
think
that
a
good
majority
of
the
things
that
have
been
really
like
the
super
pain
points
are
in
the
process
of
being
addressed
and
if
there
are
any
that
don't
come
to
mind
quickly,.
A
We
should
bring
them
back
to
the
back
to
the
front
of
discussion,
and
I
also
hear
what
you're
saying
about
different
solutions
being
offered,
so
I
don't
know
how
to
retroactive.
How
far
back,
we
would
retroactively
go
to
look
at
that,
but
you
know.
Hopefully
we
can
draw
a
line
in
the
stand
here
and
start
to
chronicle
these
in
a
way
that
we
have
a
place
to
take,
what's
currently
happening
and
put
it
in
and
put
it
in
motion.
F
It's
a
different
step
entirely
to
then
develop
a
solution,
get
consensus
and
execute
that
solution,
so
moving
from
identification
of
a
problem
to
having
a
solution
to
executing.
It
is
a
big
leap
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
coordination
that
is
hard
to
do
with
a
whole
bunch
of
decentralized
people
working
with
you
know,
varying
with
varying
amounts
of
time
and
energy
that
they
can
commit.
F
But
then
the
bigger
problem,
I
think,
is
that
there's
still
not
a
lot
of
clarity
as
to
how
much
scope
the
community
has
to
act
on
some
of
these
things.
I
think
that
iog
is
moving
towards
giving
the
community
the
control,
but
right
now,
unfortunately,
for
community-led
initiatives.
We
re
rely
on
iog
to
basically
approve
every
change
that
we're
trying
to
make.
A
A
So
from
this
conversation,
for
example
like
this,
this
I'm
going
to
own
and
take
and
take
forward
and
try
to
move
up
the
chain
because
it's
been
collaborated
on
by
so
many
people,
but
someone
has
to
own
it
at
the
end,
and
for
this
conversation
too,
it's
a
good
conversation,
but
does
this
group
does
this
group
intend
to
own
this
kind
of
a
thing
moving
forward?
Because
you
know
some
things
we
could
put
in
place
quickly,
but
some
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
longer
builds
and
they
can't
be.
F
A
G
Yeah,
I
want
to
ask
to
say
that,
in
my
opinion,
we
should
end
all
meetings
with
action
points.
Otherwise
there
is
not
much
value
and
these
action
points
should
be
delegated
to
people
to
champions,
to
move
forward
and
on
the
next
meeting
the
champions
report
we've
reached
that
point.
We
have
that
product.
We
have
this
thing.
F
Process
piloting
it
in
an
upcoming
fund,
and
I
would
welcome
input
and
support
from
this
group
when
it
comes
to
what
the
content
of
that
course
would
look
like,
but
in
terms
of
putting
together
the
the
project
to
to
make
it
happen.
I
would
really
love
to
do
that
and
certainly
would
welcome
any
feedback
on
the
proposal
that
I
have
in
in
place,
or
certainly
support
to
get
that
funded
so
that
I
have
some
resources
to
do
it.
A
A
Let
me
ask
the
group
what
having
had
this
discussion,
what
are
some
things
that
make
sense
as
far
as
keeping
some
momentum
going
around
this
recognizing
that
recognize
that
we're
coming
into
this
period,
so
we
might
have
a
collection,
research,
kind
of
a
period
of
time
coming
up
and
an
implementation
time
that
follows
the
actual
doing
of
the
assessments,
because
it's
unlikely
that,
through
these,
through
the
assessment
period,
people
are
going
to
be
doing
non-uh
non-absolutely
necessary
to
the
assessment
process
stuff.
So
that's
that's
my
question
to
this
group:
does
it
does?
A
B
Joined
up
sub-circle,
you
may
get
your
individual
owners
and
champions
who
then
take
away
and
form
their
own
little
group
to
go
away
and
action
things,
and
some
of
this
needs
iog
information
still
where
we
have
to
work
collaboratively.
So
I
don't
know
where
we
are
with
that
ca
sub
circle
that
kind
of
meets
regularly.
B
G
Well,
from
from
the
last
meeting
that
we
have,
we
had,
I
I
think
we
we
already
have
a
sub-circle,
we
have
champions
and
we
started
putting
a
discord
channel
where
all
the
ca
and
vca
information
to
be
held
and
structured,
and
we
started
putting
some
myro
boards
for
all
connected
to
the
ca
and
vca
links
that
we
have
in
our.
A
Yeah,
so
ilia
is
referring
to
there
this
this,
I
sort
of
to
your
question
naveed.
I
think
that
how
tommy
and
so
a
few
a
few
months
ago,
which
might
as
well
be
like
10
years
ago
in
catalyst
time,
tommy
and
jeremy
and
simon
and
a
few
other
people
contributed
to
the
idea
that
a
sub-circle
would
just
form
as
a
as
a
response
to
an
issue
and
they
would
have
a
champion
who
sort
of
guides
the
continuity
of
the
group.
A
So
in
this
case
it
seems
kind
of
like
alice
and
you're
raising
your
hands
to
do
that,
and
I
think
that
that
is
well
is
well
suited.
If
the
group
agrees,
but
scott
is
doing
the
same
thing
with
the
group
thinking
about
project
management
and
communication
within
our
group,
and
so
he
is
testing
out
having
an
actual
discord
server
for
the
cas
and
dcas.
Where
feasibly,
you
could
have
these
group
discussions
going
on
so
that
there
wasn't
such
a
just.
A
And
I
can
see
that
if,
if
it
was
it
made
sense
to
this
group
and
that
people
want
who
are
here
want
to
see
this
move
forward,
that
we
might
find
ourselves
in
there
and
find
that
find
our
conversation
happening
in
a
way
that
lets
us
keep
things
in
one
place.
But
I'll,
maybe
that
I
hope
that
clarification
was
helpful.
And
you
know
what
are
the
thoughts
there.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
I
I
like
the
idea
of
having
a
channel
in
someone
else's
discord
server.
I'm
not
sure
I'm
going
to
volunteer
to
set
up
a
discord
server
on
my
own
excuse
me,
but
I
like
the
idea
of
having
a
group
that
would
continue
to
get
together
and
talk
about
educational
content
for
cas
and
what
an
onboarding
and
reputation
process
might
look
like.
G
A
It's
an
it's
in
like
a
it's,
an
infancy,
kind
of
testing
draft
place,
but
it's
a
functional
server.
It
could
be,
it
could
be
used,
it
could
be
met
within.
It
could
have
a
channel
in
there
for
this
discussion
so
that
it
doesn't
get
lost
other
places
and
we
could
invite
people
to
it.
Certainly
as
people-
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
other
benefits
is
when
someone
brings
this
up
and
that
conversation
happens.
F
A
A
That's
how
it
feels
sometimes
doesn't
it
because
it
just
feels
like
poop,
you
know
yeah,
so
we
could.
We
could
start
there
and
I
think,
maybe
so
that
we
end
on
time
here.
The
I
will
take
these
these
adopting
new
changes
back.
Maybe
we
can
talk
about
it
in
the
vca
channel.
For
now,
and-
and
maybe
we
can
just
get
confirmation
on
consensus
on
this
for
tomorrow
and
get
those
submitted,
it
seems
like
they're,
not
too
complicated
of
a
thing.
John
go
ahead.
J
Sorry,
everyone
I
was
late,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
to
said
in
the
10
first
minutes.
Just
I
have
a
few
questions
on
on
these.
When
you
say
lens
less
than
150
characters,
it's
the
minimum
length
or
the
maximum
minimum,
the
minimum
height.
J
Because
this
reminds
me
of
something
else,
another
big
issue
with
all
previous
funds
was
draft
proposals
that
were
left
and
we
that
we
had
to
assess
and
when
you
have
an
empty
proposal,
it's
it's
hard
to
to
write
more
than
maybe
80
words
to
say
that
there
is
just
nothing
in
there.
So
is.
Do
you
know
if
there
is
something
that
will
be
done
about
those
those
proposals.
B
B
Tell
me
your
point
about
auditing
proposals
are:
are
they
are
they
technically
ready
to
move
to
the
ca
phase.
B
D
B
D
I
did
loads
of
that
in
the
last
fund
and
it
took
me
a
lot
of
time,
but
it's
not
sustainable.
B
I
think
if
each
challenge
team
takes
on
their
own
unless
you're
part
of
the
business
challenge,
teams
got
a
million
proposals,
but,
and
it
shouldn't
be
too
difficult
to
find
the
ones
that
are
just
really
not
ready
and
shouldn't
go
anywhere.
J
Yeah,
I
also
just
like
to
mention
something.
I've
seen
in
the
last
fund
tommy
said
that
he
noticed
that
some
people
were
using
some
of
his
or
his
sentences
to
write
assessments.
J
Now
I
am
really
suspecting
that
some
people
are
using
ai
and
training
time
on
the
assessments
that
were
flagged
as
excellent
and
good
and
writing
yeah,
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
trend
that
is.
D
But
yeah
nadia,
maybe
that
one
thing
that
is
kind
of
missing
from
here
is
the
connection
to
challenge
tips
because
challenge
tips
are
very
new
concepts.
So
we
don't
really
know
what
it
is,
what
it
could
be.
So
maybe,
in
the
medium
and
long-term
initiatives
like
clarify
the
role
between
cas
and
challenge
teams,.
F
F
Yeah-
and
I
was
I
was
just
further,
thank
you
to
tommy's
point.
I
mean
I
I
just
having
served
on
an
inaugural
challenge
team.
It
seems
like
the
list
of
things
that
challenge
teams
are
supposed
to
do,
is
getting
longer
and
longer
and
longer,
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
that
much
funding
for
challenge
teams
to
be
doing
all
of
this.
And
yes,
it's
a
it's
a
labor
of
love,
but
at
some
point
you
know
I
that
at
the
incentive
should
match
the
quality
and
amount
of
work,
that's
being
required.
F
F
J
Yeah
well
just
one
last
thing
I
mentioned
it
in
the
chat.
Maybe
you
talk
about
it
already,
I'm
not
sure
it's
about
something
I
heard
in
the
last
after
hall,
an
idea
to
improve
the
the
form
where
she
gets
choose
to
to
be
a
serie
or
they
could
test.
We
could
tell
that
they
read
the
guidelines
by
asking
them
to
assess
previously
assessed
proposals
from
proposals,
but
assessments.
B
Really
good
suggestion
where
we
get
ca's
new
cas
to
review
old
assessments
effectively
doing
the
vca
job
as
part
of
their.
B
And
and
then
and
and
then
we
check
against
what
the
what
the
cohort
said
in
in
a
previous,
you
know
previous
fund.
Yes,.
F
And
cheap
and
and
yeah
I
mean
we
didn't
talk
about
it,
but
that's
when
I,
when
I
envision
what
I'm
trying
to
do
with
my
ssi
project,
it
would
be
to
find
the
best
ideas
around
how
do
you
test
and
onboard
cas
and
so
that
that
could
be
exactly
what
the
onboarding
process
looks
like.
That
cas
have
to
do
exactly
that
and
when
they
successfully
rate
a
proposal,
a
test
proposal,
then
they're
issued
their
credential.
F
I
think
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is:
I'm
not
I'm
not
proposing
a
solution
for
what
onboarding
looks
like
I'm,
proposing
that
we
use
ssi
to
support
the
onboarding
process
and
I
think
it's
there
are
a
lot
of
different
directions
that
could
take,
and
if
I
move
forward
with
this
project,
I
would
really
love
to
work
with
a
group
of
you
know
this
group
or
a
similar
group
to
talk
about
what
the
content
looks
like.
I
will
say,
just
getting
now
back
to
john's
actual
point.
F
The
only
danger
with
that
is
that
I
I
think
we
don't.
We
don't
still
have
good
great
consensus
around
even
from
the
vcas
around
assessments
I
mean
we'd
have
to
I
guess
we
could
find
some
that
were
pretty
clear-cut,
but
to
the
you
know
what
tommy
and
I
were
talking
about
earlier.
Some
assessments
get
filtered
out,
not
because
they're
not
good
assessments,
but
because
the
proposer
didn't
like
them
and
found
them
too
critical,
and
so
I
think
there
are
ways
to
make
that
work.
We
would
just
have
to
be
careful
that
we've
taken.
B
The
right
yeah,
we
should
have
a
consensus
from
bca,
so
there
are
a
set
of
assessments
which
take
fund
seven,
a
set
of
assessments
where
you've
got
70
plus
consensus.
B
D
D
Maybe
you
don't
need
to
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
the
proposal,
but
you
need
to
understand
what
what
other
assessments
about
and
then
the
other
part
is
that
some
of
these
eloquently
scammed
proposals
are
so
well
written
that
if
you
look
at
it
without
looking
at
the
proposal,
you
might
say
hey,
this
is
really
good
quality.
This
is
amazing.
A
Okay,
so
this
is,
this
is
a
maybe.
This
is
a
good
finish
right,
and
this
is
a
good
start.
So
we
have.
We
have
a
we'll
close
the
book
on
this
and
see
how
and
see
how
this
affects
us.
Hopefully
we
we
undo
a
lot
of
what
was
done
and
not
a
lot
of
new
creative
people
were
lazy
on
their
creativity
for
gaming.
The
system
this
fund.
F
A
D
D
A
A
D
Was
suggested
last
week's
town
hall
and
it
was
talked
in
the
discord.
A
Total,
so
I
understand
what
I'm,
what
we're
trying
to
put
together
here
is
going
into
the
to
get
consensus
in
the
town
hall
tomorrow,
so
that
these
can
be
officially
added
to
the
guidebook.
So
we're
trying
to
be
like
lots
of
things
are
suggested,
but
these
we're
talking
about
what
are
we
actually
going
to
go
forward
with.
G
Naveed
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
I
think
I
saw
the
statistics
and
between
two
thousand
and
four
thousand
characters
is
the
is
the
the
sweet
spot
for
the
most
excellent
assessments?
Is
that
correct.
A
So
what
if
we
say
as
guidance
as
not
as
an
official
filtering
element,
but
we
say
our
guidance-
is
that
2
000
of
2
000
to
4
000
characters
is,
I
is
ideal,
and
then
people
won't
feel.
Like
writing.
8
000
characters
is
helpful.
It
will
at
least
give
them
a
spectrum
and
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
Rather
than
creating
a
hard,
fast
filtering
rule.
J
A
minimum
because
2000
can
be
way
too
much
for
certain
proposals,
so
I
think
there
should
be
a
maximum
to
force
people
to
be
to
compress
their
meaning
to
be
very
factual
and
very
the
guidelines
also-
and
I
have
added
for
this-
so
that
people
don't
waste
the
voter's
time
they
should
be.
J
Please
they
should
make
every
sentence
count.
Their
issues
should
be
no
wasted
words
in
their
assessments.
B
If
you
just
want
to
put
in
brackets
after
the
2004
thousand,
that's
roughly,
according
to
google
300
to
300,
to
700
words.
A
E
B
Look
at
the
most:
let's
call
it
the
the
maybe
the
best
ca,
so
it's
ca
number
57.
They
tend
to
write
quite
large
assessments
and
whether
that
they
they
get
the
most
excellent.
So
I
don't
think
that's
a
coincidence
or
it's
just
people
taking
size
is
good.
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
that
level.
I
think
that
that
guidance
is
good
if
it
if
for
for
people
who
are
coming
in
to
do
well,
if
I
mean
if
I,
if
I
came
in
and
I
understood
that
I
would
go
okay
and
then,
if
I
needed
to
write
longer,
I
probably
would,
and
it
will
prevent
the
people
who
are
doing
the
one
word
stuff
and
and
we'll
see
what
we
get.
A
B
A
Okay,
so
and
then
allison,
let's,
let's
come
to
a
close
here,
so
does
it
make
sense
for
you
maybe
we'll
come
back
to
scott
and
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
a
little
discord
channel
for
ourselves
as
a
group
here
and
then
maybe
that
can
come
from
you
and
we'll
talk
about
sort
of
congealing
everything
here
and
we
can
communicate
next
steps
in
that
in
that
group.
If
that
works.
D
One
more
question
go:
it
was
mentioned.
Oh
sorry,
it
was
discussed
at
length
in
last
after
town
hall
that
we
should
have
some
sort
of
way
to
select
the
vcas,
and
the
suggestion
at
the
table
was
that
except
people
with
two
funds
of
experience
as
vcas.
A
No
phil
is
going
to
hold
a
an
after
town
hall
tomorrow,
that
is
heavily
vca
related,
so
maybe
I'll
put
a
post
in
the
channels
about
that
and
to
to
start
to
make
decisions
on
or
make
recommendations
on
those
areas.
So
that's
going
to
be
he
at
the
end
of
at
the
end
of
the
after
downhill
last
week.
He
requested
that
this
week
we
would
talk
about
the
vcas.
B
F
Yeah
and
at
the
risk
of
sounding
like
a
broken
record,
I
think
that
iog
is
planning
to
use
decentralized
identity
as
it
ties
into
the
reputation
model.
I'm
getting
that
sense,
as
I've
been
talking
with
them
about
bringing
decentralized
identity
to
the
catalyst
process,
and
so
I'm
eager
to
make
sure
the
community
has
a
voice
in
how
that
all
gets
implemented
and
decided.
A
Yeah,
so
we
have
just
a
slight
bit
more
time
for
these
vca
decisions
so
one
I
think
it's
good
that
we
solved
some
of
the
ca
stuff
and
tomorrow,
hopefully
we'll
get
into
it.
That
most
of
that
time
for
tomorrow
is
for
discussion
about
about
what
was
raised
by
by
phil
and
others
at
the
end
with
the
vca
concerns.
So
hopefully
we
get
that
all
figured
out
and
reported
out.
A
F
A
All
right
off,
we
go
okay,
so
we'll
see
you
all
if
anyone
so
we'll
you'll
get
that
by
email,
we'll
send
you
the
link,
invite
to
the
server
channel
and
then
we'll
see
how
we
get,
how
we
go
from
there.
Okay,
all
right
thanks!
Everyone.