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From YouTube: 20 Mar 2023 Regular Cave Creek Town Council meeting
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A
A
The
council
discussion
first
time
on
the
agenda
is
an
executive
session
Council
discussion
of
town
managers,
performance
goals
for
fiscal
year
2023-24
pursuant
to
ARS
paragraph
38-431.03,
A1
I
move.
We
move
I
move
that
we
go
into
executive
session.
Is
there
a
second
all
in
favor
aye
opposed
aye?
Thank
you,
Tom
always
have
it.
A
C
A
A
Guess
that's
a
good
we're
just
talking
about
measurements
weren't!
We
another
thing
that
that
another
announcement
we
had.
We
had
a
ruling
at
Superior
Court
in
our
favor.
We
actually
came
out
on
top
in
a
lawsuit
regarding
the
town
trail
system
and
the
use
of
of
motorized
non-motorized
equipment
bikes
on
those
trails,
and
so
that
was
that
was
welcome
news.
A
A
D
I'll
be
happy
to
do
that.
Y'all
have
all
these
years,
never
seen
me
wear
a
hat
in
here.
That
is
Rodeo
week
in
case
you
don't
know,
and
if
you
don't
have
your
general
admission
tickets
for
Thursday
night
Friday
and
that's
Saturday
night
or
Sunday
afternoon,
matinee
you're
missing
out
it's
going
to
be
the
best
show
in
town
this
coming
weekend
and
the
best
part
is
it's
on
the
west
side.
A
A
This
is
one
of
the
many
ways
to
inform
your
local
governmental
representatives
and
staff
of
issues
that
are
important
to
you
or
to
suggest
improvements
in
the
way
we
conduct
the
town's
business.
Our
goal
is
to
have
a
welcoming
and
friendly
atmosphere
between
our
community
members
and
local
government.
A
Speakers
are
reminded
to
address
their
comments
to
the
mayor
and
Council
and
not
to
the
audience.
Arizona
open,
meeting
law
governs
these
activities
and
greatly
restricts
how
meetings
are
conducted
and
how
council
members
communicate
outside
of
the
public
meeting.
There
are
two
opportunities
for
the
public
to
speak.
First
at
call
to
the
public.
Immediately
following
these
remarks,
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
council
staff
and
all
those
participating
and
watching
via
Zoom.
A
There
can
be
no
discussion
by
Council
of
items
raised,
but
we
can
ask
direct
staff
to
investigate
Arizona
requires
that
all
discussed
items
Beyond
a
published
and
advertised
agenda,
so
all
parties
have
noticed
a
potential
action.
Speakers
must
come
to
the
podium
speak
directly
to
council
speaking
to
staff
or
other
audience.
Members
is
not
permitted.
Please
speak
clearly
into
the
microphone
to
begin
state.
Your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
You
will
add
three
minutes
to
speak
on
the
relevant
subject.
You
will
note
a
set
of
three
lights
on
the
podium.
A
A
The
second
way
to
publicly
communicate
with
us
is
during
the
public
comment
or
public
hearing
section
on
a
specific
agenda
item
speaking
is
conducted
in
the
same
way
as
call
to
the
public
at
the
microphone
and
limited
to
three
minutes.
If
you
wish
to
speak
during
either
of
these
opportunities,
please
take
a
forum
on
the
table
near
the
door
and
fill
out
your
information.
A
Please
hand
it
to
our
town
clerk
Teresa
Riza
sitting
to
the
left
of
council
members
period.
She
will
call
your
name
when
it
is
your
time
to
participate.
Thank
you
for
attending
our
Council
meetings
and
taking
the
time
to
participate
and
express
yourselves
democracy
in
action,
so
we're
in
the
call
to
public,
and
this
is
for
General,
it's
not
for
the
specific
agenda
items.
If
you
hear
on
a
specific
agenda
item,
you'd
want
to
wait
until
that
agenda
item
is
called
to
have
your
remarks
here.
A
F
E
Did
have
our
our
first
annual
brush
drop-off
recently
we
had
72
loads,
so
not
quite
as
many
people,
but
the
loads
got
bigger.
So
we
don't.
We
won't,
have
the
actual
weight
of
the
brush
dropped
off
for
several
weeks,
but
I
want
to
encourage
those
who
have
more
to
drop
off
or
or
didn't
get
their
properties
cleaned
up
in
time.
E
For
this
event
to
come
on,
Saturday
April,
8th
from
8
o'clock
until
noon
down
off
Carefree
Highway
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
to
drop
that
off
it's
a
good
thing
and
any
minute
now
it's
going
to
warm
up
and
all
all
of
the
brush
is
going
to
dry
up
and
it'll
be
Fire
season
again.
So
please,
if
you
can
clean
up
your
properties,
keep
defensible
space
and
keep
the
community
safer.
Everyone
would
appreciate
that
we
never
want
to
have
a
repeat
of
the
disastrous
fires
that
we
had
in
this
community.
E
The
other
thing
is.
We
would
like
to
greatly
improve
our
participation
from
the
public
at
our
budget
meetings
and
although
I
haven't
heard
from
all
the
council
members,
we
are
going
to
schedule
a
couple
of
work
sessions.
The
first
and
second
week
of
April
so
be
on
the
lookout
for
the
dates
and
time,
and
then
we
plan
to
have
the
third
opportunity
well,
we'll
have.
E
If
anyone
is
online
listening
or
listens
later,
please
look
for
the
online
and
if
you
wish
to
get
notifications
of
all
of
our
meetings,
you
can
contact
the
Town,
Clerk
and
she'll
be
happy
to
add
you
to
the
email
list.
So
please
please
come
and
participate.
It's
one
of
our
most
important
functions,
the
staff
and
councils
to
set
the
budget
and
the
direction
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
So
we
encourage
you
to
participate.
E
A
E
Carrie
I'd
just
like
to
commend
you
and
the
staff
for
the
newly
implemented,
a
wrap-up
of
Council
meetings
that
are
now
posted
online
under
mayor,
Morris's,
name,
I,
think
they're,
wonderful,
it's
a
great
way
to
reach
more
people
who
could
read
exactly
what
happened
during
these
meetings
and
items
of
importance.
So
just
this
one
that
you
just
mentioned
attending
these
budget
hearings
could
be
mentioned
in
that
report.
Now
that
we're
producing
them.
So
it's
really
a
a
great
job
and
long
overdue
foreign.
A
A
Second,
all
those
in
favor,
aye,
aye
opposed
aye
guys
have
it
next
is
the
general
agenda
items
the
first
one?
Is
the
council
discussion
approval
of
second
reading
of
ordinance
0-2023-03,
an
ordinance
of
the
mayor
and
Council
of
the
town
of
Cave
Creek
Maricopa
County
Arizona
by
amending
chapter
155.c
regarding
operational
requirements
for
medical
marijuana,
dispensaries
and
cultivation
facilities,
and
by
adding
title
157
comma
recreational
marijuana
presented
by
the
developmental
development
services
director,
Mr
couchman.
H
H
This
does
not
allow
or
approve
the
manufacturing,
processing
or
cultivation
or
any
of
those
things
within
the
the
recreational
Zone
and,
furthermore,
the
zoning
ordinance
would
prohibit
that
in
the
town
court
commercial
zone,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
go
on
record
and
state
that,
as
that
was
a
concern
that
was
mentioned,
that
by
allowing
a
recreational
facility,
there
would
be
processing
and
manufacturing
of
marijuana
related
items.
To
that,
it's
it's
not.
This
is
strictly
for
retail
sales,
retail
sale
establishments
expressly
for
marijuana
with
that.
H
I
I'm
sorry
I
apologize,
I
apologize!
Thank
you.
This
allows
you
to
implement
the
statutorily
authorized
ordinance.
Without
it
you,
the
the
persons,
could
could
use
the
property
because
the
statute
isn't
self-executing
and
you
have
a
non-conforming
use.
So
by
adopting
this,
you
now
conform
medical
with
with
recreational
you
take
advantage
of
of
authorized
taxes
and
and
and
I
think
that
was
it.
A
H
H
H
There
are
probably
locations
in
the
valley
that
have
zoning
that
would
allow
mass
production
and,
and
you
know,
production
of
goods
I,
don't
I'm,
not
a
marijuana
person,
so
I
don't
know
what
what
all
that
entails.
But
as
far
as
the
town
goes,
you
cannot
process
manufacture
any
of
the
products
related
to
some
marijuana,
so
baking
cookies,
for
example.
That
would
not
be
permitted.
Mr.
I
If
I
could
address
your
point,
I
mean
the
state
statute.
This
does
authorize
in
effect
individual
use
in
their
homes,
but
it
isn't
unconstrained,
for
example,
and
this
this
is
patterned
after
the
statute,
individuals
will
not
possess
or
manufacture
marijuana
by
means
of
any
liquid
or
gas
other
than
alcohol.
That
has
a
flash
point
below
100
degrees.
A
residence
shall
not
emit
dust
fumes,
Vapors
or
odors
into
the
environment,
and
individuals
shall
ensure
that
ventilation,
air,
filtration
building
and
design
standards
are
compatible
with
adjacent
uses
and
the
requirements
of
the
adopted
building
code.
A
K
K
Cave
Creek
Arizona
I'm
here
on
in
my
capacity
as
a
business
owner
in
Cave,
Creek
I,
think
my
questions
were
answered
by
Luke.
I
am
I
called
him
earlier
today.
My
concern
as
a
business
owner
in
Stagecoach
Village
is
the
production
or
the
processing
of
marijuana
could
cause
a
fairly
considerate
nuisance.
That
you
know
would
have
a
pretty
profound
impact
on
the
property
value
in
stage
coach
Village
we're
going
through
quite
a
change
in
Stagecoach
Village
we're
100
full.
K
Now
there
are
a
lot
of
big
events
that
I
think
are
really
Grand
Stagecoach
that
are
at
the
town
of
Cave
Creek
that
are
happening
in
Stagecoach
Village.
We
want
to
keep
that
sort
of
thing
happening,
so
I
think
I
put
on
my
card
that
I
was
opposed
to
this
I
think
I
understand
I'm,
actually
in
favor
of
it
I
understand
what
the
attorney
is
saying,
what
Lucas
said,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
on
the
record,
as
in
my
capacity
as
a
business
owner
to
really
try
to
be
against.
L
F
Hi
my
name's
Ty
Busey
and
thanks
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
be
here
mayor
council
people
I
also
have
a
business
in
Cave
Creek
same
address:
7100
East,
Cape,
Creek,
Road,
132,
133,
125,
126,
127,
128,
29,
30
31.,
so
we're
really
invested
in
Cape
Creek.
My
only
concern,
and
after
reading
and
hearing
what
Luke
had
mentioned
earlier,
I
think
I'm
fine
with
what
was
discussed
earlier
and
how
Mark
articulated
it.
But
my
my
question
might
be:
is
the
word
processing
you
know?
F
Sometimes
you
see
a
word
and
you're
not
sure
exactly
what
that
means.
What,
if
they're
baking
something
and
the
smell
is
coming
out
of
the
building?
So
I
don't
know.
If
that's
a
needs,
a
legal.
You
know
explanation
or
Elite
at
least
expand
on
should
those
be
identified,
or
at
least
maybe
broadened
so
that
you're
not
caught
with
oh
geez.
You
know
I
wish
we
would
have
decided
to
say
no
Bakery
baking
marijuana
here
and
thus
the
fumes
coming
out
of
the
chimney.
So
that's
that's
I!
F
Guess
my
my
two
cents
on
that
I
have
nothing
against
marijuana.
So
that's
not
the
issue.
The
one
thing
I
do
have
an
argument
with
is
on
Carefree
Highway
up
near
12th
Street.
There
is
a
cultivating
and
a
retail
Center
that
for
about
a
mile
when
I
have
my
five
grandchildren
with
me,
we
are
smelling
more
marijuana
than
I
did
in
my
frat
house
back
in
the
early
70s,
so
I
I,
don't
know,
I
think
that's
in
a
in
a
separate,
it's
not
managed
by
Phoenix
or
I.
F
Think
it's
under
Maricopa
County,
but
I
assume
some.
Some
of
you
go
up,
Carefree
Highway
right
yeah.
Do
you
guys
know
what
I'm
talking
about
because
I've
Googled
it
and
I've
seen
nothing
in
the
nothing
on
that,
but
then
I
talked
to
people
who
live
there
and
they're
like
telling
me
yeah
I
know
exactly
what
you're
talking
about.
So
that's
what
I
want
to
avoid
anything
that
would
be
like
that,
where
you
know
it
just
would
be
problematic
if
that
smell
escaped
for
almost
a
mile.
M
Mayor
council,
my
name
is
Don
Crowder
I
own,
a
building
at
7100,
East,
Cape,
Creek,
Road,
Stagecoach,
Village
I
bought
the
building
two
years
ago
to
bring
in
a
museum
there's
also
another
Museum
going
in
two
doors
down
for
me
and
I
understand
that
you
have
to
comply
with
the
state
law
and
it
makes
sense
because
I
was
it
was
against
it,
because
I
didn't
have
enough
information,
but
my
biggest
concern
is
I'm.
A
20-year
Army
veteran
I
did
a
lot
of
counter
drug
missions
all
over
the
world.
M
M
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful
about
whose
rights
are
we
protecting
or
whose
rights
are
we
defending
and
and
go
with
a
kind
of
a
majority
rule
I'm
kind
of
concerned
about
yes,
they're
going
to
be
like
a
use
permit?
If
we
end
up
with
a
dispensary
whether
or
not
they
manufacture,
but
just
a
dispensary,
you
know
I'm
I'm.
After
the
education
we
have
a
lot
of
children
around.
We
have
a
lot
of
events
that
have
children
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
the
need
for
it
a
dispensary.
M
M
A
I
The
concerns
that
are
being
raised
here
have
to
do
with
an
ordinance
already
on
the
books
spent.
This
doesn't
authorize
dispensaries,
you
already
have
one
and
the
state
is
heavily
regulating
these
and
I
doubt
you'll
have
another,
and
so
the
point
is
this:
there
you
have
one
dispensary
in
town
now
it's
already
regulated.
How
long
has
it
been
in
town
10
years,
eight.
I
And
I
I,
don't
I'm
not
aware
of
any
of
any
problems
that
have
been
created.
This
doesn't
authorize
any
more
dispensaries.
This
only
authorized
recreational
marijuana
use
and
to
have
an
additional
dispensary.
The
state
would
have
to
authorize
it
in
the
county
and
I
think
you've
already
got
one,
and
so
that's.
O
O
H
I
Have
one
and
there's
not
going
to
be
any
more
until
the
state
will
open
up
the
additional
dispensaries
and
I
doubt
they
will
and
so
right
now
you
have
one.
It's
been
around
I
thought
10
years,
yes
and
I
think
it's
restricted
to
certain
districts.
Is
it
commercial
districts,
correct,
commercial
and
and
I'm
not
aware
of
any
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
complaints,
but
this?
What
you're
doing
tonight
has
nothing
to
do
with
dispensaries.
E
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council.
This
is
once
again
a
second
reading
of
a
town
code
Amendment
which,
if
adopted,
will
have
the
effect
of
changing
the
start
time.
The
published
start
time
of
Planning
Commission
public
meetings
from
7
pm
to
6
p.m.
This
was
a
replacement
by
several
Commissioners
over
unfortunately
the
last
couple
of
years,
but
we're
getting
to
it
now.
So
that's
that's.
All
staff
has.
C
A
E
A
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
opposed
motion
carry
7-0
item
number
three
Council
discussion,
fossil
approval,
arrest
Sue
is
that
right,
yeah
Council
discussion,
possible
approval
of
resolution,
number
r2023-06,
a
resolution.
The
mayor
and
Town
Council
of
the
town
of
Cave
Creek
Maricopa,
County
Arizona,
authorizing
an
increase
in
the
application
amount
for
a
drinking
water.
State
revolving
fund
loan
from
the
water
infrastructure,
with
a
of
Arizona
for
the
new
potable
water
supply
connection
with
the
city
of
Phoenix
for
an
amount
up
to
13
million.
E
L
Mayor
Morrison,
Council
Sean,
is
on
he
and
I
are
here
tonight,
along
with
Bond
Council
and
our
financial
advisors,
to
request
an
increase
in
the
with
the
application
for
the
new
potable
water
supply
connection.
With
the
city
of
Phoenix
on
May
16th
of
2022,
a
council
approved
a
with
a
loan
application
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
nine
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
Phoenix
project
staff
is
now
requesting
an
increase
of
three
million
six
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
to
finance
the
estimated
increased
costs
of
this
project.
L
Total
amount
of
the
whiff
of
financing
shall
not
exceed
13
million
one
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
to
construct
the
Phoenix
interconnect
product
project.
This
financing
will
be
secured
by
the
net
system.
Revenues
of
the
Cave
Creek
Water
Utility
waste
amount
recommended
to
be
requested
from
wifa
was
built
into
the
2022
water
rate
study
that
was
completed
by
wild
and
financial
services
to
be
financed
in
fiscal
year.
2025.
the
town
would
be
asking
wifa
for
this
increase
of
the
three
million
six
hundred
ninety
thousand
two
years
earlier
than
originally
scheduled.
L
New
calculations
were
completed
by
Will
Dan
in
March
of
2023.
This
month,
to
reflect
the
increased
amount
on
the
2023
with
alone
and
ensured
that
our
debt
service
coverage
is
still
adequate
and
meets
the
that
coverage
ratios
and
Jim
and
Kailyn.
If
you
guys
have
anything
to
add
on
that,
okay
have
have
you
do,
but
approval
of
the
this
application
with
wifa
does
not
bind
the
town
to
any
future
loan
terms
or
amounts.
A
P
I
can
jump
in
on
that
mayor
and
council
members
yeah.
We
did
initially
thought
that
this
two
years
ago,
when
we
engaged
with
black
and
Beach-
and
we
had
them
looking
at
modeling
the
site
modeling-
how
we
could
actually
build
the
interconnect
site.
Initially
it's
what
they
started
to
do
yeah.
At
that
point,
we
thought
we
had
about
eight
million
dollar
project,
including
the
design
fee.
Since
then,
because
of
the
rising
costs,
it
has
gone
up
considerably
in
just
the
construction
of
water
and
wastewater
projects.
P
We
are
now
engaged
with
a
construction
manager
at
risk.
We
finished
that
solicitation
in
the
over
Christmas.
We
actually
are
going
to
be
bringing
forward
a
contract
to
council
shortly
here
with
the
selected
firm.
They
have
been
looking
at
the
numbers
and
actually
giving
us
hard
or
close
to
hard
bids.
At
this
point,
they've
actually
started
work
and
they're,
saying
yeah.
The
scope
will
work
at
this
point.
Is
it's
over
13
million
dollars?
P
Some
of
the
major
increases
we're
seeing
just
in
anything
to
do
with
electrical
over
the
last
two
years.
What
I've
heard
Ane
totally
is
anything
electrical
associated
with
pumped
motors
electrical
equipment
has
gone
up,
300
percent
in
the
water
and
wastewater
Market,
and
then
just
things
like
the
Coatings
that
you
usually
use
internal
coatings
on
the
pipes
have
gone
up
considerably.
The
concrete's
gone
up
so,
while
you've
been
seeing
increases
in
the
residential
Market,
we're
seeing
much
larger
increases
on
these
types
of
facilities
for
water
and
waste
water
infrastructure.
P
So
again,
this
request
is
largely
based
on
the
feedback
that
we've
received
from
mgc.
At
this
point
there
they're
not
in
contract
at
this
point,
but
they've
already
started
to
to
work,
to
make
this
project
successful
and,
and
first
start
of
that
is
making
sure
that
we
had
funding
in
place.
We
have
had
the
hard
discussions
on
if
we
don't
get
this
funding.
What
do
we
do
so
and
really
it's
coming
down
to
there's
not
much
you
can
reduce
from
the
scope.
So
it's
we're
looking
at
reducing
items.
P
One
item
an
example
is:
is:
can
we
survive
without
an
emergency
generator
at
this
site?
It
doesn't
sound.
It
sounds
like
a
no-brainer
that
you
should
put
one
in,
but
in
reality
that's
a
million
dollar
add
to
the
project
to
actually
have
a
standby
emergency
generator
at
this
site
that
can
power
both
this
pumps.
The
site
is
actually
designed
to
feed
into
our
pressure
zones
four
and
one
which
are
our
main
components
of
the
system
and
then
also
we're
looking
to
relocate
the
cap
booster
station
up
to
this
site.
P
So
if
you
did
that,
you
know
we
could
look
at
reducing
the
size
of
the
generator
or,
if
you're
doing
that,
then
you're
limiting
what
pumps
you
can
run
at
the
same
time
forward.
We
just
set
it
up
that
we
can
bring
one
in
as
needed.
Those
are
the
hard
discussions
we're
having
right
now
with
the
project
team.
P
So
again,
you
know
we're
shocked
by
this.
It's
just
we
seem
to
be
in
a
in
a
market
condition
right
now,
where
we're
not
in
control.
One
of
their
goals
is
to
ask
for
as
much
money
as
we
can
from
the
whiff
up
that
gives
places
in
position.
If
we
can
get
the
project
costs
down
that
actually
helps
the
town.
P
Overall,
by
getting
us
in
situation
where,
if
there's
debt
forgiveness
there,
they
would
forgive
debt
on
the
larger
amount
of
the
loan,
even
though,
if
we
don't
take
it,
but
sadly,
I
think
that
the
project
costs
have
increased
to
the
point
that
it's
just
it's
a
very
expensive
project
to
do.
At
this
point,.
P
P
Is
the
town's
water
system
is
really
dedicated
on
one
single
pipeline
coming
up
the
cap
from
the
cap
Canal
up
Cave
Creek
Road,
just
over
12
miles
to
the
town's
Water
Treatment
Plant
So?
Currently
we
have
no
functional
wells
in
the
town's
water
system,
we're
reliant
on
the
cap
allocation
that
we,
the
town,
has
so
that
puts
us
in
multiple
points
of
single
points
of
failure
and
there's
four
booster
pump
stations
that
work
in
series
in
line
to
push
that
water
up
that
12
mile
pipeline.
P
We
do
have
Reservoir
storage
in
the
system
that
helps
us
meet.
The
normal
system
demands
and
some
emergency
backup,
but
because
of
water
quality
issues,
we
just
can't
keep
the
tanks
full
all
the
time,
so
we
have
to
continually
drain
and
fill
them,
which
means
depending
on
when
we
are,
you
know
if
an
accident
were
to
happen
or
an
incident
were
to
happen,
we're
really
dependent
on
where
we
are
in
our
cycles
of
managing
our
reservoirs.
So
the
town
system
is
is
delicate
to
say
the
best.
P
The
staff
have
done
a
great
job
over
the
last
couple
years
of
doing
enhanced
maintenance
to
upgrade
the
booster
pump
stations
and
we
have
spare
pumps.
So
if
one
were
to
go
out,
we
have
a
spare
that
we
can
get
installed
fairly
quickly.
We
still
have
to
get
a
contractor
today,
because
we
don't
have
a
crane
large
enough
to
move
that.
We
have
some
electrical
components:
we're
providing
Spirit
electrical
components,
we've
upgraded
things
like
the
program.
P
So
the
real
benefit
to
the
town
for
this
interconnect
with
the
city
of
Phoenix
is
is
that
where
it
eliminates
that
single
point
of
failure,
Phoenix
agreed
to
give
us
a
water
supply,
it's
not
equal
to
our
maximum
daily
demand,
which
is
we
we're
just
under
3
million
gallons
a
day
that
we
need
to
provide
for
our
customers
during
the
peak
summer
months.
But
that
drops
down
to
close
to
about
a
million
1.1
million
right
now,
during
the
winter
time.
P
The
connection
with
Phoenix
they've
agreed
to
allow
us
to
get
up
to
1.4
million
gallons
a
day
out
of
this
system,
and
if,
in
case
of
emergencies,
they
can
give
us
a
little
bit
more.
That's
really
predicated
on
their
system.
Downstream
I've
actually
had
that
question
with
their
staff.
Saying.
Could
we
increase
that
amount?
And
they
said
you
know
not
a
long
term
because
they
have
to
meet
their
fire
flows,
Etc
and
they're
they're,
building
infrastructure,
Downstream
and
improving
the
infrastructure
Downstream
to
provide
us
with
this
water.
P
But
by
having
this
site
in
place,
it
gives
the
utility
staff
the
opportunity
that
something
were
to
happen.
You
know
we
do
everything
we
can
to
mitigate
and
maintain
the
system,
but
you
know
we
can't
there's
still
things
that
could
happen
if
a
site
were
to
go
out,
it
gives
us
time
to
repair
it
by
using
the
City
of
Phoenix
interconnect.
So
it
adds
that
level
of
reliability
and
redundancy
the
town
has
never
had
in
its
water
system.
Even
when
it
had
some
operational
Wells,
they
were
never
enough.
P
There
was
never
enough
well
capacity
to
actually
meet
the
the
town's
demand
to
me.
It's
that's
why?
In
1990,
the
old
private
water
company
went
ahead
and
put
this
infrastructure
in
place
to
get
access
to
the
cap
canal
and
the
raw
water
treatment.
So
so
it's
really
coming
down
to
increasing
the
reliability.
Redundancy
of
the
town's
water
system.
A
J
Q
P
Ms
mayor
council,
member
yeah,
that's
something
that
we're
very
keen
on
you
know
we
presented
on
the
town's
drought
management
plan
several
months
ago,
and
one
of
the
goals
in
that
that
plan
is
to
you
know,
help
educate
customers
on
how
they
can
reduce
their
water.
Consumption
is
if
everybody
was
to
reduce
a
little
bit,
then
that
helps
a
lot
overall
in
the
system,
and
that
is
part.
P
Water
conservation,
water
consumption
is
a
big
component
of
managing
a
water
utility,
especially
in
these
days
and
with
the
uncertainties
going
on
with
the
Colorado
River
moving
forward
and
it's
in
the
town's
interest.
Although
we
don't
have
a
large
system,
it's
an
important
system
to
the
town
and
that's
how
we
operate
it,
and
if
we
can
have
everybody
helping
do
that
and
we
are
looking
for
ways
to
bring
in
outside
resources
to
help
supplement
staff
right
now
we
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
P
We
have
really
good
staff
in
our
building
department
who
will
answer
questions?
We
have
really
good
field
staff
and
go
out
and
help
we.
You
know
we
pride
ourselves
on
customer
service,
that's
done
to
the
customers
to
help
them
understand
their
water
bills
and
how
they
can
conserve,
but
I
think
we
could
do
more
and
that's
one
of
the
goals
that
we
have
as
a
group.
R
R
does
and-
and
we
also
one
other
thing-
that
we've
that
we're
not
yet
made
aware
of-
is
that
we
will
be
receiving
some
amount
of
forgivable
debt
from
the
loan.
And
so,
if
we
ask
for
the
the
full
amount,
the
the
13
million,
they
may
give
us
some
amount
that
that
we
don't
have
to
pay
back.
So
our
first
five
hundred
thousand
two
hundred
thousand
whatever
that
number
becomes
they
they
give
it
to
us
and
we
don't
have
to
pay
it
back
and
then
to
to
Echo
one
of
Sean's
comments.
R
S
It's
just
to
say
that's
how
fast
things
are
changing
and
so
before
I
would
accept
the
free
money
from
Mr,
Kelly
I
would
look
at
that
and
read
all
of
it
and
understand
what
you're
getting
yourselves
into.
This
is
changing
so
fast.
It's
going
up
so
much
I'd
call
a
Timeout
on
this.
I
really
would
and
I'm
for
it,
but
I
would
just
say
this
is
too
much
too
fast,
too
soon,
300
percent
growth
rates.
Why
do
you
want
to
buy
into
that?
S
S
J
P
Mayor
council,
so
black
of
each
we've
engaged
to
do
the
design
there
at
what
we
refer
to
as
a
90.
So
we're
looking
at
some
final
tweaks
and
it's
getting
ready
to
be
submitted
to
ready
to
go
to
get
permitting
we're
paused
right
now
as
mgc
is
the
contractor.
We
selected
is
looking
at
pricing
and
options.
So
at
this
point
we
would
we've
spent
about
a
million
dollars
with
black
and
Beach
on
the
design.
P
P
You
know,
since
my
four-year
tenure
with
the
town,
we've
had
a
couple
of
outages
on
the
cap
canal
and
the
treatment
plan
site
and
it's
a
very
stressful
situation
for
the
staff.
We've
got
a
good
staff
to
try
and
deal
with
this,
but
it
has
proven
to
me
the
vulnerability
of
the
town's
water
system,
so.
E
Mr
Mayor,
if
I
did
I,
continue,
there's
additional
ramifications.
This
project
is
tied
to
an
intergovernmental
agreement
with
Phoenix
that
expires.
There
are
contractual
obligations
if
you
once
it
expires,
it's
gone
and
you
would
have
to
renegotiate
any
intergovernmental
agreement
with
the
city
of
Phoenix.
Should
they
choose
to
to
reconsider
the
project
at
a
later
date.
E
Part
of
the
agreement
is
once
they
have
their
connection
south
of
Carefree
Highway,
that
that
is
that
was,
was
and
is
their
water
service
area.
That
was
the
bone
of
contention
with
the
city
of
Phoenix
and
part
of
the
IGA
was
to
avoid
a
lawsuit
with
the
city
of
Phoenix,
because
the
town
was
serving
water,
with
two
customers
in
their
water
service
area,
Walmart
and
and
others,
and
so
once
they
complete
their
end
of
the
project.
All
of
the
customers,
south
of
Carefree
Highway,
become
City
of
Phoenix
Water
customers.
E
A
I
have
a
comment:
if
no
one
else
does
this.
This
first
arose
from
the
water
advisory
committee
eight
ten
years
ago
when
I
was
on
it
and
because
there
are
so
many
single
points
of
failure
on
that
cap
line.
Now
that
cap
line
has
four
sets
of
pumps,
as
it
pumps
uphill
that
16
miles
as
I
recorded
16,
inches
and
13
miles.
I
forget
the
numbers
mixed
in
there
yeah
it's
quite
a
ways,
and
so
any
equipment
failure
on
that.
A
So,
if
a
road,
if,
if
a
car,
goes
off
the
street
and
hits
one
of
those
motor
control
centers
or
if
the
power
company
cannot
Supply
and
their
different
Power,
Systems
or
different
Transformers,
there
are
controls.
There
are
pumps,
there's
just
a
lot
of
ways
that
that
system
can
fail,
and
that
is
in
reliability,
engineering.
A
You
look
for
single
points
of
failure
and
there
are
many
many
having
said
that,
it's
been
very
reliable
it.
The
cap
line
and
the
water
treatment
plant
have
been
quite
reliable.
Historically,
so
that's
a
factor
in
this
another
Factor
on
the
financing
is
the
loans
on
the
Utility
Systems
I.
Don't
have
the
exact
loans
in
front
of
me,
but
they
start
to
be
paid
off
beginning
in
2027,
and
that
goes
it
completes
about
2031
as
I
recall.
A
So
we
have
really
put
a
dent
in
the
in
the
the
debt
that
the
town
has
and
the
end
is
in
sight
for
that
initial
purchase
and
the
sewer
systems,
and
all
that
the
final
thing
I'd
like
to
well
we're
in
a
position
where
we
can't
store
water
for
emergencies.
You
really
because
of
the
EPA
rules
on
THM.
You
cannot
fill
your
tank
up
and
just
leave
it
there.
So
now
you
have
24
or
48
Hours
of
Supply
to
make
a
repair
on
the
line.
A
It's
it's.
We
have
all
the
businesses
are
down.
The
restaurants
are
down
homes,
don't
have
it,
the
horses,
don't
have
water,
no
showers,
I,
guess
I'll
be
drinking
out
of
my
pool.
If
anybody
needs
a
drink
come
on
over,
so
the
consequences
are
are
extreme
for
any
kind
of
extended
water
outage.
In
my
view,
and
Sean
may
have
something
to
say
about
that.
But
I
I
think
this
project
is,
is
a
tough
thing
to
to
deal
with.
D
The
other
thing
that
you
that
you
didn't
mention
was
that
we
did
have
a
failure
in
the
16
inch
line,
and
fortunately,
at
that
point
in
time
we
were
able
to
jump
on
that
and
get
it
repaired
before
there
were
a
lot
of
issues
in
town.
You
get
a
a
you
know:
you
got
ground
subsidence
all
over
Maricopa
County.
You
lose
one
of
those
lines
and
get
three
feet
offline
or
or
whatever,
in
the
in
the
alignment
of
the
pipe
when
it
breaks
and
we're
really
in
trouble
this.
D
G
E
Think
it's
an
important
project
I
realized
that
there
could
be
some
negative
aspects
to
financing
it,
whether
it's
on
the
federal
side
or
even
the
local
side,
but
it's
too
important
to
the
town.
It's
too
important
to
our
main
sales
tax
revenue
generator,
which
is
Walmart.
We
we
need
to
make
sure
that
our
supplies
are
reliable.
That
is,
first
and
foremost,
yeah.
D
Some
sometimes
I
get
second
thoughts.
I
was
around
in
the
family
business
in
1980,
when
our
rates
were
incredible,
inflation
was
incredible
and
almost
put
us
under
I,
don't
think
anything
is
going
to
get
cheaper
and
if
we
can,
if,
if
this
is
the
maximum
that
we
can
apply
for
and
hopefully
not
use
it
all
before,
inflation
brings
it
to
that
level.
I
think
it's
a
smart
thing
to
do
as
well.
J
J
A
A
E
E
Some
of
the
projects
are
moved
around
and
we've
added
some
new
projects,
so
Mitzi
will
go
through
an
overview
of
it
and
then
we're
going
to
go
back
and
focus
on
the
summary
by
fund
that
lists
all
the
projects.
We
have
some
corrections
as
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
but
Sean
brought
up
in
his
one
of
his
projects.
So
we'll
go
over
that
and
then
I
think
we
can
answer
any
questions
the
council
may
have
have
and
the
directors
are
here
to
go
into
any
detail
or
answer
questions
about
a
specific
project.
L
Funding
of
these
projects
is
important
and
vital.
The
funding
priority
is
for
reinvestment
in
our
current
capital
assets
for
the
replacement,
maintenance
or
increased
efficiency
of
existing
systems
over
the
expansion
of
existing
systems
or
the
provision
of
new
facilities
and
services.
Department
staff
have
ranked
these
projects
with
a
priority,
ranging
from
one
to
five.
The
rating
system
is
assigned
by
staff
and
is
not
necessarily
reflective
of
overall
priorities
and
sequencing
of
projects
approved
by
Council.
The
rating
is
provided
to
allow
a
quick
reference
categorizing
the
general
need
for
the
project.
L
The
next
slide
shows
a
summary
of
capital
project
expenditures
by
Department.
One
you'll
see
is
referenced
on
there
several
times
those
represent
the
general
fund
and
reflect
those
departments
that
are
in
that
are
part
of
the
general
government
governmental
departments.
The
expenditure
shown
here
include
for
these
General
government
departments
include
projects
funded
with
both
the
general
fund
and
special
Revenue
funds
fund
monies
general
fund
monies
and
special
Revenue
fund
monies
departments
shown
on
this
slide
for
40,
50
and
55
are
for
our
Enterprise
funds.
L
L
E
E
is
24
million,
434
thousand
dollars
give
or
take
and
compared
to
what
are
normal.
Whatever
a
normal
CIP
would
look
like,
for
example,
in
fiscal
year
23
our
current
CIP,
the
grand
total,
was
2
million
a
little
over
two
and
a
half
million
two
million
600..
So
the
jump
is
primarily
the
that
includes
the.
E
E
There's
there
is
a
Surrey
Drive
pedestrian
Crossing
project
under
trails
on
page
34
towards
the
bottom,
under
Trails
105
000
dollars.
There
is
a
typo
essentially
in
that
that
will
not
come
out
of
the
general
fund.
That
is
actually
a
grant,
so
that
needs
to
be
moved
to
Grants
other,
which
you
find
on
the
other
page,
so
that
will
be
moved
so
that
that
is
the
difference
in
the
general
fund.
If
you
go
to
page
35.
E
You
see
the
utilities
13
million
one
hundred
ninety
thousand
dollars-
that's
that's
the
huge
increase
that
is
in
the
grand
total,
including
the
grand
total
over
24
million.
So
if
you
take
that
out,
if
you
take
the
fire
out
and
add
that
up,
you
get
more
to
them,
what
would
look
like
more
normal
dollar
amount?
So
that's
I
just
want
to
point
out
why
the
number
is
so
high
of
the
total
because
of
the
wifa
funding
for
that
project
and
carrying
over
some
projects
from
this
current
fiscal
year
into
next
fiscal
year
Okay.
E
So
we
didn't
spend
the
money
this
year,
but
we
have
to
re-budget
for
it
next
year
and
and
you'll
see
that
in
a
as
a
very
large
number.
So
it's
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
Those
are
the
main
things
they
miss
anything
Mitzi
and
then
the
other
thing
I
want
to
to
point
out
on
page
36.
That
is
an
error
and
Sean
mentioned
it
under
the
Cave
Creek
Water
Fund
in
your
fiscal
year
28.
E
It
shows
nothing
for
the
wtp
treatment
upgrade
and
that's
under
fund
50,
Cave,
Creek
Water,
and
that's
missing
the
the.
What
was
about,
3.5
million
is
going
to
be
closer
to
6.5
Million
by
the
time
you
get
out
to
fiscal
year
28,
so
that
would
be
added
in,
and
that
was
missed.
That
was
under
a
for
this
current
fiscal
year
that
was
budgeted,
but
it
was
or
this
current
CIP
it
was
budgeted
under
women.
E
E
What
we
do
need
to
discuss
this
evening,
I,
don't
want
to
confuse
everybody,
but
the
way
that
the
the
Public
Works
streets
are
budgeted
in
this
CIP.
It
goes
out
five
years
and
it
includes
all
of
our
current
CIP
projects
that
are
in
the
current
pavement
Management
program.
So
everything
for
the
current
plan
is
in
there.
The
problem
is
the
plan
should
be
updated
in
fiscal
year
26.
E
and
you
would
have
to
then
you
would
start
in
fiscal
year
27
on
the
new
plan.
Those
two
years
are
not
in
here
so
when
it
comes
time
for
for
budgeting
funding,
and
all
of
that,
if
you
want
to,
if
you
want
to
look
at
catching
up
on
the
CIP
projects
for
the
roads,
that's
not
built
into
the
first
two
or
three
years.
It
stretched
out
over
five
years
and
those
last
two
years
do
not
include
the
new
projects
that
should
be
in
the
updated
pavement
Management
program.
E
Does
that
make
sense
supposed
to
be
done
every
five
years?
It
was
done
in
20
we
Implement
in
21.
It
goes
five
years
so
by
20
and
some
of
those
projects
got
carried
over
into
fiscal
year
26,
but
we're
supposed
to
update
the
pavement
Management
program
by
26
and
we
would
normally
start
in
27-28.
But
it's
not
it's
not
shown
this
way
because
of
the
cost.
E
A
We're
trying
to
be
as
transparent
as
possible
and
help
people
understand
it's
a
complicated
business,
there's
no
getting
around
it
and
I
I.
Think
yours,
your
categories
of
urgent,
very
important,
important,
not
important
in
future.
Consideration,
don't
have
enough
descriptive
weight
to
give
somebody
who's
not
involved
in
this
any
kind
of
feel
for
what
is
important.
What
isn't
my
proposal
urgent
set
is
fine.
That
would
be
something
that
safety
I
would
make.
The
second
one
maintain
capability
that
is,
we
have
to.
We
have
to
replace
pumps.
A
E
E
B
E
E
There
are
criteria
in
the
pavement
Management
program
that
determine
the
life
cycle
of
a
street
or
road
based
on
the
kind
of
pavement
and
how
it
could
go
into
that
and
then
how
long
it
lasts
and
what
you
have
to
do
in
the
meantime
before
you
do
a
complete,
fill
and
pave.
If,
if
it's
that
and
then
in
our
Fleet
Management,
we
have
a
Fleet
Management
program,
replacement
program
and
they're
evaluated
on
you
know
the
age,
the
mileage,
the
cost
for
maintenance
and
the
life
cycle
of
different
kinds
of
vehicles.
E
E
J
E
A
E
G
O
G
G
E
And
then,
if
you
skip
down
to
F-350
with
service
body
and
liftgate
through
the
end
of
that
list,
water
truck
all
of
those
are
Public
Works,
the
two
fire
Thunder
Truck,
and
is
that
it?
Oh
just
the
Tundra
truck.
We
push
that
out
to
fiscal
year
25,
because
the
fire
station
we
were
not
able
to
complete
this
fiscal
year.
So
we
push
that
out.
Now
both
the
fire
station
upgrades
and
the
fire
tender
truck
are
required.
E
E
E
E
We
put
the
350
in
there
just
in
case,
but
we're
hoping
we
don't
need
all
of
it.
The
the
design
went
out
for
proposals.
We
received
a
proposal.
They
have
been
contracted
and
they're
working
on
it.
They
turn
that
around
we
can
get
the
proposal
out
for
construction
this
fiscal
year
and
hopefully
get
as
much
done
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
as
possible,
so
that
that
350
will
be
hopefully
reduced,
be
nice
if
we
could
eliminated
so
any
questions.
H
H
O
O
H
H
So
this
is
really
the
opportunity
we
have
and
and
to
councilman
Rhodes's
point
the
not
only
the
town
putting
this
investment
of
the
restrooms
in
allows
us
to
acquire
it,
but
it
also
gives
organizations
like
the
Cave
Creek
Rodeo
days,
group
the
ability
to
forecast
and
plan
for
enhancements
to
the
VIP
area
and
other
things
that
don't
just
benefit
the
three
or
four
Day
Rodeo.
That
would
benefit
the
community,
the
Greater
Community
to
have
other
events
out
there.
As
well
so
it
makes
the
makes
the
rodeo
grounds
more
marketable
I.
O
Think
the
point
is:
if
we're
going
to
invest
300
750
000
for
a
little
bit
more
than
that
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars.
What's
the
bang
for
the
buck,
are
there
other
things
we
can
do
with
it?
So
we
can
try
to
recoup
some
of
the
revenue.
You
know
lease
it
out
to
cares
or
flea
markets
or
whatever
speaking
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Just
something
can
we
get
other
events?
There
are
other
things
there
well.
E
H
Well,
the
best
recruitment
is
generally
word
of
mouth
and
once
people
find
out
that
they
can
have
a
great,
a
greatly
locate
a
greatly
situated
facility,
that's
close
to
the
Metro
Phoenix
area
that
has
restrooms
that
they
don't
have
to
bring
in
portageons
and
rent
additional
facilities
to
have
an
event
out
there.
It
makes
it
extremely
marketable
and
and
really
that
in
and
of
itself
recruits
additional
events
out
there.
Okay.
H
Residential
area,
so
it's
it's
unincorporated
County
just
to
the
West.
It's
on
our
westernmost
border
they're
along
Matic
is,
is
Cave,
Creek
property
and
they
all
they've
they've
all
asked
if
they
can
have
the
old
shoots
that
we've
taken
out
of
the
arena
and
replaced
things
in
large
parts
of
the
Cape
Creek
Rodeo
days,
Organization
for
redoing
the
whole
rough
stock,
North
End
of
the
Arena
they're
in
support
of
it,
of
the
use
of
the
rodeo
grounds.
By
and
large.
E
H
O
O
D
D
A
I
I
had
many
many
conversations
with
the
Baxley
along
the
same
lines
is
I
I
view
this
as
a
public
park
yeah.
It
is
a
public
event
center,
like
many.
Many
like
Gilbert
has
a
tremendous
one
out
there.
There
was
a
great
deal
of
demand
for
ropings,
Barrel,
racings,
Jim
Connors
other
rodeos
last
year,
because
another
Rodeo
came
in
so
I
I.
Think
it's
wise,
though,
that
we
set
objectives
on
usage.
A
The
utilization
of
it
there's
no
sense
putting
money
in
if
it
doesn't
have
a
high
utilization
and
I
I
see
it
also
kids
rodeos
it's
being
used
for
a
lot
of
Youth
stuff.
So
it's
it's
been
there
forever
I
mean
I'm
I'm.
A
huge
supporter
of
this
I've
been
trying
to
get
this
thing
going
and
I
really
want
it.
The.
H
H
Sure,
mayor
members
of
council,
we've
we've
had
people
inquire
about
car
shows
doing
different
things
like
that.
We've
had
one
request,
which
was
a
another
coveted
Casualty
that
wanted
to
do
a
concert
and
they
were
actually
in
the
preliminary
stages
to
do
a
a
Red.
Dirt
country
concert
out
there.
So
there
are
possibilities
it
once
again.
It
comes
down
to
you
mean
I've
got
to
rent
Porta-Johns.
J
C
H
A
This
be
our
version
of
a
baseball
field
right
in
Phoenix,
says
baseball
and
soccer
and
pools,
and
things
like
that.
We
need
to
spend
some
money
on
amenities.
This
town,
we
just
don't
have
I
mean
we
have
a
a
private
library
and
a
private
Museum,
and
we
don't
do
things
that
other
towns
do
and
we
need
to
do
some
things.
I
think
it's
it's
consistent
with
our
brand.
It's
consistent
a
rural
lifestyle
and
it's
we've.
It's
been
there
forever.
D
D
Additionally,
in
my
first
term
as
mayor,
we
had
Patty
sitting
back
back
over
there
put
together
a
50-50
Grant
application
for
restrooms,
at
the
rodeo
and
and
because
of
Personality
issues
on
my
first
Council.
They
voted
down
applying
for
a
50,
50
Grant.
We
would
have
had
it
done
and
it
would
have
cost
us
175.
D
D
O
E
Yeah,
okay
and
the
the
last
section
on
the
page
is
Trails,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
Surrey
dry,
pedestrian
Crossing.
That
is
supposed
to
be
a
grant
that
would
fall
on
the
next
page
as
grants
other
so
that
comes
out
of
that
won't
be
in
the
general
fund.
The
Gateway
Trailhead
is
budgeted
for
a
hundred
thousand,
but
that
is
tied
to
a
grant
as
well
I'm,
not
sure
which
one.
Where
is
it
here?.
E
E
E
A
There's
an
analogy
here
to
the
maintenance
of
the
water
and
Utility
Systems,
where
we
did
not
maintain
them
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
things
start
breaking,
and
we
had
to
spend
more
because
we
deferred
things
the
streets
the
same
way,
if
you
don't
keep
them
up,
you're
going
to
spend
more
down
the
road
because,
instead
of
just
a
simple
repair,
now
you've
got
a
major
repair.
So
this
is
in
my
view.
This
is
money
well
spent
to
get
us
back
and-
and
we.
E
Well,
but
it
doesn't
get
you
to
to
cover
if
you
want
to
cover
this
current
pavement
Management
program,
you
would
need
to
take
roughly
well
and
by
the
time
you
get
to
fiscal
year.
28
see
another
million
and
a
half
to
two
million
dollars
and
split
that
out
over
fiscal
year,
24
25
26
to
catch
up
on
the
current
pavement
Management
program,
because
we
should
be
updating
that
program
by
fiscal
year,
26
and
then
start
implementing
that
next
Five-Year
Plan
in
27
and
28,
and
it's
not
budgeted
that
way.
E
G
G
What
we
didn't
realize
is
when
we
did
the
pavement
management
plan,
they
said.
Oh,
this
is
how
much
it
costs
for
a
square
yard
of
Mill
and
pay
for
a
square
yard.
They
didn't
include
things
like
the
traffic
control
or
the
striping,
or
the
removal
of
some
of
the
things
we
and
we've
dug
into
that.
As
we
were
putting
these
projects
out
and
all
of
a
sudden
they
were
coming
in.
G
The
problem
is
that
we've
been
since
we
didn't
have
the
million
dollars
and
we
didn't
have
the
you
know
to
spend
the
last
two
years
we've
been
pushing
that
we've
been
pushing
those
projects
out.
It's
not
uncommon
in
public
works
to
take
a
five-year
master
plan,
make
it
an
eight-year
plan
and
that's
what
we've
been
doing,
because
we
didn't
have
the
money.
The
projects
were
still
there,
but
we
were
going
to
still
identify
where
we
were
after
five
years
and
and
moved
the
new
pavement
management
plan
to
either
2006
or
2007.
G
when
I
ran
the
numbers
by
taking
the
projects
that
had
been
identified
in
the
pavement
management
plan
and
spreading
the
mouth
over
first
of
all,
I
made
it
so
that
it
was
going
out
to
2008.
Okay,
that's
what
is
that's,
why
I
gave
Mitzi
to
put
into
the
capital
Improvement
plan
when
we
take
it
and
if
we
try
and
bring
it
back
to
2006
we're
going
from
spending
1.1
to
1.4
million
a
year
to
spending
between
2
and
2.2
million
a
year
for
the
next
three
years.
G
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
I
don't.
This
is
not
easy
for
me
to
say,
but
that's
where
we
are
today.
We
are
sitting
there
at
a
needing
to
catch
up
somewhere
between
two
and
2.2
million
a
year
and
we
originally
budgeted
it
at
one,
but
the
one
was
the
one
million
that
they
gave
us
was
flawed,
and
so
we
couldn't
we
couldn't
build
it.
We
couldn't
build
the
project
for
the
1
million
that
they
did,
because
they
simply
did
it.
G
It's
three
dollars
three
dollars
a
square
yard
for
for
doing
like
the
conceal
code
on
Carefree
Highway.
Well
great,
we
did
get
that
price
that
it
came
in
at
three
dollars
a
square
yard,
but
we
also
had
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
traffic
control.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
in
in
mobilization
striping
was
another
thirty
thousand
dollars,
so
you
approved
a
279
000
project,
but
that's
not
what
this
Capital
that
was
not
was.
G
Was
in
this
pavement
management
for
the
work,
so
I
apologize
for
that
that
we
didn't
catch
that
sooner,
we
had
escalated
up,
so
we
came
in
on
budget
because
we'd
escalated
it
thinking
we
were
covering
for
inflation.
We
didn't
realize
we
were
covering
for
a
misunderstanding
of
how
they
were
putting
the
material
in.
O
G
Million
dollars
a
year
will
get
us
through
if
we
kick
it
to
it,
if
we
kick
it
through
2008,
the
million
dollars
to
a
million
two
will
will
will
make
that.
But
it
again
the
failure
rate
as
Commander
Morris
was
talking
about,
is
something
that
we
are
really
worried
about,
and
that's
just
to
get
our
that's
to
basically
Hold
Steady,
with
our
pavement
condition
index
that
doesn't
get
us
to
you
know
it.
It
improves
it,
but
it
not
by
a
lot.
G
A
So
we,
the
missing
piece
in
all
this
is
how
much
money
we
have.
We
will
have
coming
in
correct
and
then
how
much
money
is
in
our
bank
account
that
we
could
potentially
invest
in
something
if
it
had
a
good
return
for
us.
We
typically
right
use
20
million
dollars
we
have
in
the
bank.
We
never
never
spend
all
the
general
funds.
D
A
So
I
mean
we
ought
to
be
thinking
if
I'm,
not
sure
it's
it's
pavement,
I,
don't
know
where
it
is,
but
we
ought
to
be
thinking.
Is
there
something
we
should
be
doing
somewhere
pedestrians?
We
haven't,
got
a
pedestrian
safety
yet,
and
that's
that's
the
number
one
on
my
Hit
Parade.
We
should
be
thinking.
Okay,
if
we
do
have
funds-
and
we
have.
The
general
fund
generally
covers
inflation,
because
food
inflates
and
a
number
of
people
inflates
so
that
we're
pretty
well
covered
on
our
general
fund
inflation
factor.
I,
would
say.
N
A
G
Agreed-
and
there
are
other
there
are
projects
that
we
will.
There
are
projects
that
we
want
to
do,
but
at
the
same
time,
the
pavement
management
is
the
majority
of
what
we're
spending
from
the
public
works
and
that
we're
budgeting
for
to
try
and
keep
our
roads
in
a
drivable,
well-maintained
condition.
A
G
G
G
A
G
A
E
It
was
always
intended
to
be
funded
by
a
grant
if
there
were
no
Grant
funds,
because
it's
very
expensive
and
we
intended
to
get
some
assistance
from
other
property
owners
to
pay
for
it,
and
that
if
you
rank
where
the
pedestrians
are,
there
aren't
as
many
pedestrians
on
this
end
as
there
are
on
the
other
end.
So
the
that's
why
we
focused
on
those
crosswalks?
What
kind
of
a
grant
would
be
available?
Mag.
E
H
Nearly
there
were
a
couple
of
factors
that
if,
if
everything
Falls
a
certain
way,
then
it
would
be
required,
like
the
the
hidden
Canyon
subdivision,
for
example,
that
would
increase
the
demand
and
the
need
for
something
for
safer
Crossing,
because
if
you
know
we're
Surrey
Hill,
the
Surrey
Drive
is
coming
into
Cave
Creek
coming
into
the
town
core.
It's
it's
right
there.
H
H
Then,
as
far
as
Trails
within
the
town
core
go,
we
we
do
have
some
minor
ones
that
will
be
completed
that
have
been
budgeted
for
this
year,
not
very
many
left.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
there
are
some
several
owners
of
businesses
and
properties
along
there.
That
will
be
installing
those
is
that
they
come
online.
H
There
is
a
potential
public
parking
area
that
would
have
a
trail
implemented
there,
we're
working
with
several
Property
Owners
on
on
the
north
side
of
Cave
Creek
Road
in
the
the
general
area
that
we're
talking
about
between
Circle
K
and
the
currently
being
renovated
former
town
dump.
There
are
some
opportunities
there
to
get
additional
easements
and
put
in
put
in
Pathways
that'll
make
that
a
lot
safer,
and
that's
really
that's
really
the
end
of
town.
Q
Q
And
then
I'd
like
to
lobby
for
something
here,
the
most
important
Trail
I,
think
in
town
is
the
town
downtown
Trail
and
for
20
25
30
years
we've
had
so
many
different
iterations
that
we
used
to
call
it
streetscaping
and
we
had
the
concrete
installations
and
a
lot
of
different
things.
If
the
mayor's
draw
attention
to
it
and
it's
a
priority
for
literally
Public
Safety,
why
would
we
spend
this
kind
of
money
400,
some
odd
thousand
at
the
Gateway
Trailhead,
which
really
dead
ends
up
to
the
Cave
Creek
Regional
Park?
Q
Q
Some
are
pretty
bedraggled,
starting
with
coming
in
from
carefree
and
all
the
way
through
town,
because
I
really
believe
we
can
get
corporate
donors
and
other
co-participants
if
the
town
has
a
funding
shortage.
But
it's
an
opportunity
to
dress
up
the
medians
with
Native
species,
hopefully
no
more
California,
barrels
or
other
things,
but
it
just
should
be
a
priority.
Q
I'll
bet
you
there's
a
couple
of
places
out
there
where
we
could
restore
pieces
of
media
and
for
the
purpose
of
creating
vegetation
and
shade
and
so
forth,
and
then,
finally,
as
long
as
I
got
Florida
temporarily
Mr
chairman
at
some
point,
whatever
you
do
with
the
town
trails
and
so
forth,
could
we
study
a
proposal
from
staff
to
create
desert
shade
long-term
ongoing
project
for
the
downtown
commercial
Corridor?
Now
to
be
nice,
we
got
into
a
discussion
of
ramadas
and
shade
structures
and
things
like
that.
Q
But
if
we
could
restore
the
low-level
vegetation
in
the
medians,
did
we
ever
get
to
a
tree
like
Central
Avenue
with
a
bridal
path?
Can
we
get
into
a
feasible
recommended
investment
long-term
of
the
phase
project
for
trees,
for
the
purpose
of
pedestrian,
shading
and
and
so
forth,
and
then
carry
I'm
going
to
probably
come
and
bald
you
someday?
If
we
can
ever
get
aps's
attention
to
see
if
we
can
vary
a
portion
of
the
overhead
electric
lines
which
we
tried
so
many
years
ago
and
didn't
succeed?
Q
But
we
do
have
gas
lines
in
the
commercial
Corridor,
formerly
from
Black
Mountain
gas
and
I
really
believe
that
it
could
be
done
with
a
municipal
gas
rate
and
if
it
could
be
done
with
residents
or
visitors
wanting
to
sponsor
a
light
fixture,
it
would
be
fun
just
to
try
a
demonstration
project.
So
you've
got
better
pedestrian,
illumination
you're,
not
aggravating
Bruce
Arlen
in
the
dark
sky
issue,
but
we
take
down
the
old
sodium
Vapors
and
we
put
something
in
that
hopefully
would
be
Southwestern
in
application
and
Design
and
that's
our
living
room.
Q
I
just
think
we
can
do
better.
Besides
slowing
down
the
speedway
and
the
Mad
Max
driving
I
just
think
we
can
make
better
hosts
of
ourselves
with
once.
You
guys
are
addressing
parking
and
crosswalks
and
things
like
that.
But
let's
see
we
can
find
some
other
monies
to
expedite
the
town.
Trail,
the
the
town,
commercial,
Town
Trail,
if
possible.
Q
That's
and
that's
just
I'm
not
asking
for
you
to
respond
but
I'm,
trying
to
give
you
a
particular
list
to
see
if
anybody
on
staff
has
an
idea
for
vegetative,
restoration
of
existing
medians,
a
potential
place
or
two
where
maybe
the
medians
might
be
re-established.
Maybe
some
peripheral
if
we
have
sufficient
easements
on
the
side,
mature
trees
for
landscaping
and
shade
that
type
of
thing.
So,
thanks,
Mr,
chair
for
your
thanks
for
time.
E
H
E
O
H
K
O
O
Q
O
Featuring
I
mean
I
just
think,
like
I
said,
the
federal
government
you're
doing
preservation
and
conservation
I
mean
they're,
throwing
money
at
you
left
and
right
I.
Think
it's
just
kind
of
a
smart
thing
to
do.
We
put
a
little
seed
money
in
get
some
artist
renderings
and
things
like
that
and
show
people
what
it
could.
Look
like.
You
probably
get
the
business
owners
for
the
most
part
to
say:
yeah
I
think
that's
kind
of
cool.
H
A
H
Members
of
council
what
what
we've
been
able
to
do
in
the
town
core
with
our
Pathways,
just
in
the
last
five
years,
Alone
has
been
due
in
large
part
to
the
streetscape
pilot
effort.
We
did
in
front
of
big
girls
and
and
in
that
area
and
a
lot
of
property
owners
saying
oh
wow,
that's
what
the
town
is
talking
about.
H
O
Understand
but
like
I
said,
sometimes
you
got
to
sell
them
by
showing
them
a
picture.
Some
people
are,
you
know
like
to
see
the
written
word.
Other
people
like
to
see
you
know,
fancy
little
pictures
and
if
you
can
show
somebody
saying
hey,
if
we
do
this,
it's
going
to
drive
more
business
to
you,
I
doubt
seriously.
O
E
Okay,
page
35
is
essentially
we've:
we've
covered
the
grants
and
herp
and
then
there's
a
whiff
of
bonding
for
the
13
million
190,
and
then
that
takes
us
to
page
36,
which
is
Wastewater
Cape,
Creek,
Water
and
Desert
Hills
Water
funds.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
on
the
projects,
the
ranking
Sean
is
here
to
help
out.
Q
P
Marion
Council
says
that
that
that
project
is
defined
by
a
development
agreement
that
we
have
in
place
with
Continental
mountain
Estates.
The
developer
has
constructed
or
has
a
property
I
think
it
totals
14
Lots
residential
lots.
Presidents,
subdivision
code.
They
are
required
to
bring
fire
protection
or
have
fire
protection.
P
The
talents
distribution
system,
leading
up
to
that
property
only
is
a
six
inch
line,
so
they
can't
get
more
than
a
thousand
gallons
a
minute
fireflow,
which
then
has
a
restriction
on
the
size
of
the
the
buildings.
So
the
agreement
that
was
entered
into
it's
a
development
agreement
with
that
developers
that
they
would
actually
build
the
booster
Pump
Station,
that's
necessary
to
move
the
water
up
to
the
site
and
the
town
would
pay
for
and
construct
the
improvements.
P
So
there's
a
section
of
six
inch
water
line,
we're
looking
actually
to
keep
the
six
inch
in
service
and
actually
parallel
with
a
slightly
different
route,
with
a
new
eight
inch
line.
It
would
take
water
from
our
Rockaway
Reservoir
in
the
new
booster
Pump
Station,
and
the
developer
is
required
to
construct
and
convey
that
up
to
the
property.
So
that
was
we
put
that
in
four
years
ago,
when
I
first
started
with
the
town,
because
that
development
agreement
was
in
place.
P
If
I,
if
you
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
context
of
that
in
that
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
when
the
town
purchased
the
Palm
membrane
units
for
the
treatment
plant,
that
was
done
to
address
a
treatment
technique
at
the
water
treatment
plant,
the
the
vessels
that
were
there,
the
treatment
vessels
could
not
remove
organic
carbon
to
level
required.
When
the
town
the
state
reclassified
the
plant
in
2014,
then
we
actually
had
to
list
issue
letters,
because
we
weren't
meeting
the
treatment
technique.
P
So
the
town
elected
to
purchase
two
Paul
trailer
membrane
units
treatment
units,
each
of
them
can
produce
up
to
a
million
gallons
of
water
a
day
the
plant's
actually
rated
at
three.
So
it
wasn't
supposed
to
replace
the
entire
plant
at
the
time.
It
was
just
to
give
us
a
blend
to
the
point
that
we'd
be
back
in
compliance
which
has
been
what
has
occurred
when
the
state
and
the
county
is
actually
Maricopa.
County
Environmental,
Services,
Department
mcesd
gave
us
the
operational
permit.
P
They
gave
us
four
years
to
operate
what
they
considered
a
hybrid
plant
and
to
run
the
poles
in
membrane
units,
in
conjunction
with
the
existing
West
Tech
conventional
treatment
units
that
we
have
out
there
so
right
next
fall.
We
have
to
make
a
decision.
The
way
they
wrote
it
is
at
the
poll.
Membranes
were
the
pilot,
so
we
have
to
go
back
in
and
say
no.
P
We
prefer
to
keep
the
pulse
because
they
produce
the
best
quality
water
for
the
town
and
look
to
decommission
the
rest
of
the
site
that
does
the
plant
is
currently
rated
at
three
million
gallons
a
day
treatment
capacity.
That's
pretty
much
the
maximum.
We
can
send
up
this
16
inch
pipeline
without
changing
out
the
booster
pump
stations
Downstream,
but
with
the
rising
costs
on
the
City
of
Phoenix.
Interconnect
staff
thinks
it's
prudent
to
push
that
project.
P
So
that's
how
we
built
the
capital
program
is
to
spend
this
first
fiscal
year
with
the
permitting
process
and
second
fiscal
Years,
be
when
the
operational
permit
was
due
up
and
then
with
the
modified
permit,
modified
the
plan
to
get
it
ready
for
the
next
expansion.
We
have
already
engaged
a
firm
who's
done.
A
similar
expansion,
black
and
Beach
did
a
high
level
estimate
for
us.
A
few
years
ago,
we'd
actually
like
to
get
another
consultant
on
board
to
to
look
at
it
in
a
little
more
detail.
P
P
K
P
P
The
project
has
We've
added
some
more
cost
to
the
project,
with
the
goal
of
trying
to
get
the
existing
meters
replaced
in
the
system
and
allow
the
town
to
start
moving
forward
to
what
they
call
an
Ami
system,
an
automatic
meter
infrastructure.
What
that
means
for
the
residents,
customers
and
the
staff
itself
is
that
it
gets
us
into
where
we're
only
seeing,
not
live,
but
we're
getting.
You
know
a
couple
of
times
a
day
we're
actually
getting
billing
information
or
usage
information.
P
It's
not
building
building
we'd
still
do
it
on
a
monthly
basis,
but
we'd.
Actually
it
becomes
an
automated
system
at
that
point.
So
where
we
can
do
things
like
address,
leaks,
Etc
much
more
quickly
than
with
the
current
system,
but
yeah
so
we've
there
are
other
potential
grants
out
there.
So
we're
looking
at
other
opportunities
to
help
fund
this.
P
To
allow
us
to
do
it
more
quickly,
more
efficiently,
it'd
be
nice
to
get
enough
funds
that
we
can
bring
a
contractor
and
just
purchase
all
the
meters
and
go
to
town
once
the
the
Carefree
disconnects
are
all
done
in
the
next
few
months.
We'll
have
about
2
300
meters.
Existing
accounts
in
the
Cave
Creek
System
right
now
about
300
of
them
have
been
changed
over
to
the
Neptune
meter.
So
we
still
have
about
2
000
meters
to
go
so
there's
still
a
long,
long
haul
to
go
on
the
project.
Okay,.
G
A
P
Yeah
so
mayor
council,
So,
currently
the
town
of
water
treatment
plant,
has
emergency
generator.
The
near
e
facility
has
a
mercy
generator
a
few
years
ago.
During
the
fire
event,
we
lost
power
up
at
the
at
the
Rockaway,
so
the
Carroll
Heights
booster
station
Carol
Heights
feeds
pressure,
Zone
Seven,
which
is
also
the
pressure
Zone
that
nearly
feeds
and
pressure
zone,
eight
yeah
the
site
is
set
up
for
a
generator.
It
was
in
the
the
capital
program,
we've
elected
to
push
it
out
just
to
try
and
balance
some
funding.
P
I
would
like
to
do
look
at
an
overall
program
of
is
that
necessary.
It
comes
into
part
of
the
discussion
of.
Do
we
want
to
have
emergency
generator,
Anthony
City
of
Phoenix
interconnect
site,
and
can
we
afford
one?
The
the
Carol
Heights
generator
was
at
least
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
was
about
18
months
ago.
E
E
You
said
there
you're
looking
at
what
we
budgeted
and
we
are
above
that
and
and
going
we're
being
conservative
with
our
Revenue
projections
and
I'm
talking
mostly
the
general
funds.
Now,
because
we
have
the
the
utility
funds
set
with
the
utility
rate
projections,
so
in
terms
of
the
general
fund,
we'll
be
a
little
bit
conservative
with
the
next
year's
budget
projections
for
sales
tax
and
also
hope
for
the
best
with
the
legislature.
E
K
A
Okay,
I
I
just
want
to
put
a
little
bit
on
on
the
revenue
and
the
towns.
The
Financial
Health
standpoint,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we've
got
over
20
million
bucks
in
the
bank,
the
the
general
fund.
We
it's
going
to
be
probably
near
14
million
dollars.
Revenue
we've
got
about
15
million
dollars,
it's
going
to
come
out
of
the
of
the
water
company,
so
we're
going
to
have
about
a
30
million
dollars,
total
revenue
coming
into
the
town
between
the
utilities
and
the
and
and
the
general
fund.
A
At
the
same
time,
our
our
debt
is
dropping
dramatically.
Every
year
it's
going
down
four
million
dollars
a
year
from
a
what
was
a
63
million
and
is
now
down
to
20..
So
you
know
the
town
is
in
solid,
solid
financial
position.
Our
general
fund
has
been
increasing
and
11
a
year,
so
we
are
not
poor,
but
we
need
to
be
frugal
because
we
have
a
lot
of
challenges.
We
do.
S
I
would
like
to
Lobby
again
on
the
idea
of
not
utilizing
the
piece
of
land
that
we
use
for
the
what
we
call
the
Water
Ranch
the
sewer
site
and
will
be
the
food
bank
site
as
not
putting
so
much
money
into
that
site
for
the
Gateway
project.
I'd
propose
at
this
point
in
time
to
move
the
Gateway
project
to
the
rodeo
site,
because
you
could
trailer
to
that
site.
It's
already
gotten
the
space
got
the
pavement
for
putting
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars.
In
there
there
will
be
public
bathrooms.
S
We
have
a
part-time
employee.
Now
I
can
Envision
that
we
will
have
a
staffer
there
to
accommodate
that,
and
it
makes
sense
to
me
that
we
would
combine
the
rodeo
use
grounds
as
a
area
of
rescue
in
case
of
a
fire
that
we
would
try
to
go
for
grants
and,
following
up
on
Dusty's
thought
here,
that
we
would
look
for
grants
for
our
area
of
rescue,
which
also
doubles
as
our
rodeo
site
and
this
venue
I'm.
S
Looking
at
the
relationship
between
the
parking
lot
of
the
rodeo
to
The
Cave
Creek
Regional
Park,
which
can
get
you
to
Spur
across
without
trespassing
on
private
land
going
out
of
the
creek.
It
can
also
get
you
back
over
to
the
Phoenix
and
Oren
if
you
care
to
ride
that
way
from
that
particular
area,
so
I
think
it
would
be
a
gain
and
we
could
get
multiple
uses
out
of
the
same
dollar
other
than
that.