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From YouTube: 2017 09 20 Cedar City Council Work Meeting
Description
Weekly scheduled public City Council meetings for Cedar City, UT
A
For
all
of
those
who
serve
us
in
this
community
and
the
surrounding
area,
I
just
asked
for
protection
for
wisdom
and
for
insight
and
as
they
adjudicate,
the
affairs
of
our
city
just
help
them
to
keep
you
fourth
and
foremost
for
the
wisdom,
the
love
and
the
justice
and
the
mercy
that
we
need
to
have.
And
so
we
are
asking
all
of
these
things
this
evening
and
thanking
you
again
and
we're
asking
this
in
Jesus
name,
Amen,.
B
C
B
D
A
little
story
about
a
man
who
walks
into
a
store
and
they're
selling
bananas
for
a
dollar,
and
he
says
they're
selling
bananas
across
the
street
for
50
cents
and
the
store
owner
said
well.
Why
don't
you
go
over
there
and
buy
a
me
said
because
they're
out,
he
said
well,
if
I
was
out,
I'd
be
selling
them
for
10
cents
apiece,
which
leads
me
to
this
question
of
our
blanket
contractors.
D
E
Isn't
a
new
problem
for
us?
This
has
been
a
problem:
we've
had
with
the
blanket
contracts
for
many
years
they
get
bid
and
the
fellows
that
bid
them.
They
do
the
work
it
takes
them
a
while
to
get
to
them
because
they're
going
for
the
jobs
that
pay
them
more
during
the
summer
season
when
they
can
maximize
their
returns
during
the
summer.
At
one
point,
the
city
changed
the
way
we
operate
and
we
hired
a
full-time
employee
to
do
nothing
but
run
a
Congaree
crew
and
do
all
of
our
blanket
concrete
work.
E
D
E
When
we
rebut
we
rebid
these
blanket
contracts
every
year
and
our
experience
with
the
blanket
contractors
has
been
similar.
Sometimes
we
can
get
one
to
be
a
little
more
responsive
than
another
one,
but
it's
always
very
similar.
If
they've
got
a
job
to
go,
do
say,
pour
a
foundation
at
a
house
or
a
large
commercial
job.
They're
gonna
go
take
care
of
that.
One
pressed
could.
D
E
Not
sure
exactly
what
we
have
in
there
and
we
could
put
more
performance
language
in,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
gonna
run
into
the
same
issue.
If
that
guys,
if
the
folks
who
are
still
bidding
it
are
still
having
private
jobs
that
they
can
go
to
during
the
same
Goodweather
period
and
make
more
money
they're
gonna
go
to
those
private
jobs.
First,
okay,.
D
F
So
mr.
Davis
Jeremiah,
with
D&D
smoke,
job
contacted
me,
Sunday
I,
guess
they,
the
street
crews,
did
some
work
on
2150
West
in
front
of
their
business.
On
Sunday,
the
17th
was
the
end
of
the
season.
The
there
was
statements
sent
out
to
the
property
owners.
The
problem
is,
is
the
people
that
lease
those
properties
don't
always
get
that
notice,
and
so
we
probably
need
to
not
only
send
it
to
the
property
owners,
but
also
pass
them
out
in
person
to
the
businesses,
those
notices,
an
ID.
Did
you
say
you
didn't
get
one?
G
F
You
got
those
but
not
when
they
changed
it
to
17,
so
we
might
want
to
just
make
sure
we
do
that
because
they
had
affected
their
business
that
way
so
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
I
serve
on
the
temple
committee
for
the
open
house
and
dedication
and
we've
been
one
of
the
assignments
we
have
a
signage
for
traffic
and
Stacy
Cooper
and
I
rolled
around
with
chief
Adams
this
afternoon,
a
little
bit
thinking
working
with
traffic
issues
that
we
might
be
facing.
We're
I
talked
to
Scott
snow
with
UDOT.
F
Today
and
there's
a
positive,
doesn't
you
know?
It's
really
concerned
about
traffic
flows?
We
think
the
weekdays
are
going
to
be
manageable,
but
we
think
weekends
are
going
to
be
just
crazy
with
traffic
and
so
talk
to
chief
Adams
about
he
said
that
they're
providing
an
officer
and
billing
the
church
for
the
for
that
added
over
time
and
and
shift
for
the
top
of
Kolff
Drive
by
the
temple
to
direct
traffic.
But
we
might
also
need
an
officer
to
direct
traffic
on
highway
56
in
Cole,
where
we
don't
have
a
lighter
for
that
left
turn.
F
We
might
have
to
have
an
officer
to
block
traffic
only
eastbound
on
56
and
allow
that
left-hand
turn
to
get
some
cars
up,
Cole
drive
and
then
and
he's
going
to
do
some
direct.
We
don't
know
what
we're
gonna
have
they're
gonna
release
ticket
sales
first
of
October,
so
we'll
kind
of
get
an
idea
how
much
flow
we're
going
to
have.
But
that's
just
something
I
wanted
to
talk
to
the
council
about.
Let
everybody
know
that
we
might
need
to
request
that
from
the
police
department
to
help
us
with
traffic
control
there.
F
F
F
H
Evening,
Danny
Stuart
economic
development
director
this
coming
Saturday
is
the
downtown
Main
Street
clean
up
Saturday
morning
from
8
to
10
will
be
a
road
closure.
There
very
much
appreciate
the
help
we've
got
from
the
police
department
from
Public
Works
and
various
staff
who
are
helping
with
that
road
closure
with
supplies
and
everything
and
our
volunteers
ready
to
go
committee.
Members
asked
if
I'd
just
make
you
aware
and
if
you
haven't
got
a
flyer
yet
I've
got
some
copies.
H
I
J
Just
a
couple
of
the
changes:
the
original
contract
was
four
year
contract.
We
switched
that
to
a
year
two
year
contract
and
the
reason
we
did.
That
is
because
we
switched
the
taxing
districts
where
we're
gonna
pull
these
numbers
from
to
the
water
district
instead
of
the
Cedar
Valley
history.
A
couple
reasons
we
did
that
one
is
it's
easy
for
the
county
to
be
able
to
pull
those
numbers
up
instantly
every
year.
That's
something
they
have
to
do.
J
Anyways
and
second
reason
was-
is
because
the
percentage
difference
you
know
what
we're
really
aiming
for
the
percentage
difference
was
so
minimal
that
it
really
gave
us
the
same
result
so
because
we
did
that
and
because
we
can
pull
those
numbers
so
quickly
that
you
decide
to
change
it
to
a
year
to
year.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
more
accurate
for
all
the
parties
involved,
but
that
was
really
the
main
formula
change.
J
I
The
other
thing
is
there's
some
dollar
amounts
that
were
talked
about
in
council
that
have
changed.
There
was
some
inaccurate
information
given
to
us
by
the
county
that
included
pieces
of
property
impaired
on
and
stuff
like
that,
so
we
went
through
and
that's
what
drove
us
down
to
that
district
area
and
clean
that
up.
So
it
changed
the
numbers
a
little
bit,
but
it
wasn't
very
severe.
C
L
K
Director
of
leisure
services,
and
would
like
to
give
a
quick
report
on
the
half
marathon
that
happened
on
September
9th.
We
had
a
little
rain
that
morning,
but
we
were
undaunted.
We
had
883
finishers
in
the
half
marathon
and
38
in
our
trail
run,
and
we
we
just
felt
like
it
was
awesome.
It
was
like
the
rain,
didn't
even
exist
and
an
end
up
being
a
great
day.
We
do
have
some
signs,
some
a-frame
signs
that
we
used
for
the
half
marathon,
that
you're
more
than
welcome
to
use
there.
K
They
can
be
velcroed
on
and
can
have
driving
instructions,
and
so
I
think
I
have
about
seven
of
those
that
we
could
use
for
any
kind
of
directional
service.
Also,
one
to
point
out
wait:
wait
arm.
Our
parks
manager
has
been
working
to
get
the
interchanges
going.
We've
done
the
north
interchange
that
was
completed
last
week,
the
South
interchange
now
there's
just
a
few
cleanup
items
there.
Roumanian
that
looks
pretty
good.
The
middle
interchange
will
start
a
probably
take
all
week,
starting
on
Monday.
K
We
have
a
crew,
a
local
crew,
that's
going
to
be
working
with
with
them
from
the
some
prisoners,
basically
to
come
out
and
help
and
and
get
that
in
tip-top
shape.
So
want
you
to
be
aware
that
we
other
Leisure
Services
advisory
board
meeting
this
afternoon.
A
lot
of
good
ideas
were
discussed,
and
so
just
one
give
you
an
update
on
that
event
also
want
to
thank
you
for
the
route
cycling
agreement.
They
were
very
excited
to
come
and
start
doing
some
filming.
K
They
were
going
to
come
this
weekend,
but
we
understand
there
might
be
some
some
wind
and
the
higher
elevations
and
maybe
even
some
snow.
So
what
we'll
see
how
that
goes?
And
then
our
next
big
event
will
be
the
high
school
mountain
biking
championships.
The
state
championships
they're
asking
for
a
hundred
parking
stalls
out
of
three
peaks.
So
we
know
it'll
be
a
significant
mountain
biking
event
that
will
happen
on
November
4th.
D
Report,
thank
you
very
much.
I
should
also
thank
chief
Phillips
in
the
fire
department.
I
had
a
friend
who
an
electric
spark
let
her
field
on
fire
and
as
they
drove
to
their
house,
they
saw
a
plume
of
smoke
going
up
there.
They
were
on
the
other
side
of
town
when
they
heard
about
the
fire
department
is
already
there
and
took
care
of
it,
and
she
was
very
appreciative.
M
State
your
name,
my
name,
is
Haven
Scott
I
am
here
representing
the
office
of
community
and
academic
enrichment
at
Southern,
Utah
University.
We
are
a
new
office
in
charge
of
two
important
programs.
One
will
be
to
offer
community
education
classes,
something
that
hasn't
been
done
in
a
while.
These
will
be
non-credit
classes
like
cooking
classes,
canning
and
preservation.
M
They're
designed
to
be
more
social,
engaging
the
other
will
be
professional
development,
which
will
be
classes
like
computer
science
management,
and
then
our
other
component
in
our
office
is
community
on
the
go
which
offers
residents
low-cost
trips
to
London.
We
just
sold
out
our
trip
to
Normandy
without
Christmas
in
London,
coming
up
in
a
trip
to
Peru
next
year.
M
This
does,
if
you
would
like
that
we
have
a
survey
going
on
on
our
Facebook
page.
It's
the
community
office
of
community
and
academic
enrichment,
Facebook
page,
but
that's
the
other
reason
for
this
event,
as
we'll
have
a
booth
just
collecting
data
we've
gotten
we've
had
about
200
survey
responses
off
of
face.
D
D
F
D
F
The
same
but
it's,
but
we
have
a
breakfast
starting
that
morning
that
we're
cooking
breakfast,
it's
a
fundraiser
for
scout
troop,
local
Scout,
Troop,
and
that
starts
at
8
o'clock.
You
can
get
in
for
five
bucks
feed
your
family
breakfast
and
then
you
look
at
the
airplanes.
So
that's
just
so.
It's
a
really
nice
time
of
year
and
nice
event
for
your
family.
O
P
Good
evening,
Council
Mike
Slive,
I'm,
Scott,
Phillips
and
I'm,
actually
I'm
retired
from
the
Shakespeare
Festival,
but
I
do
want
to
make
you
aware
of
something
because
I'm
aware
of
it.
Next
Thursday
Friday
and
Saturday
the
27th
through
the
30th,
there
will
be
a
40th
annual
high
school
Shakespeare
competition
and
just
so
you
know,
there'll
be
about
a
hundred
and
five
schools.
The
last
I
heard
there's
over
3,000
students
coming
and
they've
got
every
single
hotel
room
in
this
city
and
Brian
heads.
P
B
Q
Airport,
a
Man
City
Council,
my
name
is
Bob
Platt
and
this
is
regarding
a
zone
changes
at
311
and
313
North
300
100,
West,
Terry
Porter
is
the
owner
of
this
property.
This
zone
change
request
involves
two
properties
on
the
table,
this
one
but
don't
change.
It
should
involve
this
one
too.
She
owns
this
also.
Q
Q
Nevertheless,
we'll
deal
with
that,
one
apparently
we're
only
dealing
with
this
tonight
well
I'm
a
little
bit
disappointed
about
that,
but
nevertheless
that's
the
request.
It's
in
conformance
with
the
general
plan.
We
just
went
to
Planning
Commission,
and
there
was
frankly
it
was
one.
It
went
through
very
fast.
Q
F
Q
D
E
D
E
City
a
number
of
years
ago,
probably
less
than
five
or
six
years
ago,
did
you
start
we
folded.
We
used
to
have
a
central
commercial
and
a
general
commercial
folded
both
of
those
into
one
commercial
district.
It
worked
well
in
some
situations
and
it
didn't
work
well
in
other
situations.
An
example
would
be
the
property
to
the
south
of
cross.
Hollow
arena
is
all
zoned
for
central
commercial.
E
We
folded
both
of
those
zones
into
one
commercial
zone,
is
allowed
for
RV
parks
and
the
neighbors
cross
street
one
and
a
half
so,
and
we've
been
through
that
exercise
a
little
bit.
If
the
council
wants
us
to
revisit
that,
one
collapse
highway
services
into
central
commercial,
we
can
look
attack
to
might.
D
Q
J
D
J
S
E
L
Good
evening,
mayor
pro-tem,
council
and
staff
chief
Adams
Police
Department,
we
received
this
request
and
currently
we
have
mr.
day
and
his
colleagues
mr.
Hart
mr.
Fontenot
and
in
John
Fante
know,
who
is
the
son
to
Kathleen
investigators,
have
gone
through
and
done
backgrounds
on
those
four
individuals
with
no
concern
no
criminal
history
on
any
four
of
those
and
so
I
know
there
was
a
discussion
between
me
and
mr.
Rommel
about
a
potential
v
donor
who
wasn't
listed
and
there
may
be
some
work
that
needs
to
be
done
on
that
I
know.
L
N
N
J
I
just
ran
a
background
search
on
the
business
Depot
Management
LLC
and
the
registered
agent
was
it
James
Fontana,
so
that
kind
of
triggered
that
maybe
we
need
to
do
a
background
check
on
him.
That's
my
understanding.
So
the
application
says
we
need
background
checks
on
all
partners,
officers
and
directors.
He
doesn't
fit
that
then
we
wouldn't
need
to
do
that,
but
I
need
yeah.
So.
T
J
T
T
B
D
B
U
We
have
proposed
a
notation
been
rejected
because
of
separation
distances.
I,
find
it
very
hard
to
understand
when
last
time
I
was
here
being
told,
the
state
has
separation
distances
and
we
kind
of
used
that
as
a
reason
why
I
couldn't
keep
a
location
I
was
at
since
then
Salt
Lake
City
area
has
license
13
vapor
stores.
Now
vapor
is
not
going
to
go
away.
It's
a
multi-billion
dollar
industry.
It
is
not
going
to
disappear
like
like.
Some
would
like
it
to
these
13
locations
up
in
Salt
Lake
area.
U
More
than
half
of
them
are
within
a
residential
area,
literally
right
across
the
street.
Five
of
them
are
within
school
districts.
School
areas.
Two
of
them
are
right
across
the
street.
Literally
right
across
the
street
from
an
LDS
Church,
so
I
find
that
hard
to
understand
why
100
feet
plus
is
excluding
me
from
from
what
I'm
trying
to
do.
We
have
brought
our
vapor
production
sales
down
to
a
minimum,
since
the
appeal
start
and
I
was
told,
I
was
going
to
lose
my
license.
U
My
family
I've,
put
back
into
my
company
and
to
sales
of
sports
mm-hmm
and
everything
I
can
think
of
to
try
to
sell,
but
I
continue
to
have
more
and
more
vape
customers
due
to
quality
and
discretion
and
the
fact
that
they
don't
want
to
go
into
other
stores
and
by
closing
mine,
you're
gonna
force
them
into
other
stores
where
they
don't
want
to
go
because
of
items
sold
in
those
stores.
One
of
them
is
right
across
the
street
here,
where
everything
you
can
think
of
is
being
sold.
I
not
understand.
U
It
was
grandfathered
in
and
I
don't
understand
that
either
I
come
today
to
ask
that
you
allow
me
to
change
my
EBA
doing
business
ass.
By
doing
so,
I
will
be
able
to
take,
and
I
have
already
done
so
removed.
Anything
in
regards
to
the
word
vapor
smoke
cigarettes
off
of
my
everything
I
can
think
of
including
me
electronically.
U
The
only
ones
left
is
the
marquee
and,
as
that
doing
that
I've
already
lost
business
I'm
about
out
of
business,
so
without
being
able
to
reopen
my
doors
and
continue,
business
I
will
be
unemployed
and
out
of
business.
I'm
sure
that'll
make
others
happy
in
this
in
the
town,
because
I
consumed
most
of
their
business
and
the
reason
is
my
customers
don't
want
to
go
into
these
other
stores.
U
The
vape
community
wants
a
high-end,
clean,
babe
store
I,
provided
that
this
council,
the
city,
has
asked
for
the
help
of
a
small
businessman
I'm
that
man
I
asked
the
council
and
I
appreciate
mr.
Raleigh
for
coming
to
my
store
the
other
day.
I
hope
that
I,
you
know
presented
that
store.
You
know
in
a
nice
light,
but
I
am
that
small
business
I
am
asking
for
help.
I'm
asking
that
you
continue
to
allow
me
to
do
business.
We
have
provided
a
clean
up,
standing
store,
I
pay
taxes,
I
I,
want
that
leniency.
U
I
want
to
be
able
to
continue
by
being
able
to
change
my
name
to
vape
enterprises
or
big
hit
enterprises.
Excuse
me
we
will
be
able
to
continue
business.
We
will
continue
the
sale
of
our
sports
items,
our
apparel,
our
jewelry
gold
and
silver,
our
guitars,
everything
that
we
put
in
the
store
we're
not
going
to
just
get
rid
of
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
so.
U
We
would
like
that
thought
we
would
like
help
and
we
would
appreciate
it.
That's
that's!
You
know.
I
I
had
another
stack
of
petitions.
I
didn't
feel
like
bringing
them
I
I
had
a
bag
of
things
to
show
you
I,
don't
feel
like
bringing
on
my
I
think
everything's
been
said:
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
continue
to
provide
a
clean
environment
for
a
tobacco-free
down
and
and
I
just
asked
you
guys
to
consider
that
and
the
Keen
allow
me
to
have
my
license.
U
N
U
As
long
as
my
counter
space
and
my
storage
is
less
than
40
percent,
then
I
should
be
allowed
to
sell
my
products,
including
the
apparel,
the
tobacco
products
I'm
not
going
to
sell
cigarettes.
Oh
I'm,
not
gonna,
sell
beer,
I'm,
not
gonna,
sell
meth
pipes,
bongs
or
anything
else.
I'm,
just
gonna
sell,
vape
and
all
the
other
merchandise
I
have
in
my
store.
The
vape
industry
is
continually
growing.
Prices
go
up
all
the
time.
What
was
$20.00
a
year
ago
is
120
dollars.
U
Now,
if
I
sell
one
device,
I
got
to
close
that
door
and
sell
20
t-shirts,
it's
very
difficult
to
do
so.
I
was
told
that
the
law
was
made
for
the
that
35%
65%,
which
is
an
a
mark.
You
can
hit
for
a
small
merchandise
store
like
myself.
It
was
made
for
larger
stores
like
Family
Dollar
Lynn
Smith's
Mavericks,
where
they
sell
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
cigarettes,
but
they
sell
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
a
gasoline
and
soda
pop
I
can't
meet
those
kind
of
things
so.
D
J
The
name
off
of
there
just
I
want
to
know
yeah,
so
his
big
hip
vapor
was
the
name,
that's
right,
so
that
bells
been
rough
right,
so
that
presumption
is
now
made
that
their
tobacco
specialty
store
so
to
refight
that
they
either
change
location
or
they
can
show
by
two
consecutive
counting
periods
that
they're
under
the
35%
gross
profit.
So
because
that
bells
been
around,
we
can't
go
back.
You.
D
D
E
D
E
U
S
E
U
E
E
City
changed
its
rules
in
2016,
we
said:
if
you
hold
yourself
out
to
be
a
tobacco
shop,
the
city
will
presume
that
you're
a
tobacco
shop,
that's
where
mr.
Koretz
business's
name
comes
into
play.
He
held
himself
out
to
the
public
as
being
big,
hip,
vape
and
MMA
apparel,
and
that
was
part
of
how
he
marketed
his
business
and
what
he
sold
to
the
general
public.
So
we
presumed
that
he
was
gonna,
be
a
tobacco
specialty
shop.
The
35
percent
thresholds
been
there
the
whole
time.
We
changed
the
rules.
E
D
S
U
Am
we
say
tobacco?
You
know
that
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
disagree
with
that
at
all.
What
I
disagree
is
is
your
original
comment
that
I
open
the
store
as
something
else
from
my
original,
and
you
can
look
this
up
my
original
application
states
on
there,
I
Han
wrote
it
myself.
It
stays
on
there
that
I
will
be
selling
tobacco
products
vape
products
from
the
very
beginning.
So
there
was
no
miss
communication
that
I
was
only
an
MMA
store
or
a
Fight
Club
or
anything
else.
It
was
as
licensed
big
hit
paper
and
MMA
apparel.
U
U
E
N
E
U
You
know,
and
there
was
no
at
that
time.
It
was
before
the
referendum.
You
know
you
guys
putting
a
hold
on
anything.
You
know.
Yeah
I,
just
don't
understand
how
you
know
right
across
the
street.
Here
we
have
a
tobacco
shop
with
tobacco
in
the
windows,
comic
books,
adult
situation,
everything
else.
So
that's
fine
right
across
the
street.
You
know
so
and
then,
like
I,
said
within
the
last
year,
the
state
itself
is
licensed.
Thirteen
more
vape
shops
in
Salt
Lake
area,
with
no
consequence
at
all.
U
U
You
know
our
art
clientele
are
tired.
Of
going
into
stores
are
being
they're,
going
to
be
forced
to
go
in
stores
that
they
find
unappealing.
You
guys
the
vape
industry
is
not
going
to
go
away.
We
want
to
offer
at
that
high-end
location
that
you
know
that
our
customers
have,
that
comfortable,
feel
it's
your
parents
and
your
children
and
your
aunts
and
uncles
that
are
coming
into
my
store
to
try
to
quit
smoking
cigarettes
and
it's
working
by
going
somewheres
else.
So
you
know
they're
gonna
go
back
to
tobacco.
I
have.
N
Another
question
about
your
search
for
a
location,
cuz
I
know
I've
seen
one
open
up
in
the
Providence
Center
during
this
time
period,
because
I
understand
your
lease
was
going
to
expire
in
eight
months
or
something
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
renewed
your
lease.
Is
it
a
matter
of
not
wanting
to
pay
the
price
for
another
lease
or
is
there.
U
N
U
U
E
U
See
this
counter
space
is
about
what
I
need
I
mean.
That's
I
would
like
to
take
everything
that
I
sell,
because
I
do
sell,
jewelry
and
other
things.
I
do
have
my
Intel
for
a
lot
of
other
things,
but
I.
You
know
it
doesn't
take
much
for
a
couple
counter
spaces
to
sell.
You
know
shape
liquid
and
devices
we
do
have.
We
did
have
another
suggestion
on
another
location.
It
is
at
the
north
end
of
town
next
Jairus
truck
stop
is
a
dilapidated
building
on
a
half
acre
piece
of
property.
U
When
we
did
a
measurement
door-to-door
to
the
Calvary
Chapel
was
the
problem.
It
measured
1,200
feet.
It
sits
on
a
25,
acre
commercial
piece
of
property,
so
they're
disclosing
as
what
I
assume
the
whole
piece
of
property,
because
the
Calvary
Chapel
sitting
in
the
middle
of
it.
So
they
we
they
got
about.
Six
hundred
almost
seven
hundred
feet
from
property
line
to
property
line
did.
E
E
U
You
know
if
I,
if
my
doors
closed,
my
customers
are
gonna,
go
someplace
else,
they're
gonna
continue
to
bathe
and
I
encourage
them
to
do
so.
She's
gonna
be
a
great
day
for
a
couple
other
vape
shops
in
town,
because
they're
gonna
increase
their
sales
dramatically,
and
that
is
the
problem
today
was
with
you
know
some
people
in
this
room
is
you
know
they?
This
is
probably
a
good
thing
for
them,
but
I
would
ask
that
you
reconsider.
U
A
U
U
What's
going
on
in
regards
to
some
of
the
proposals,
I
just
flabbergasted
that,
right
before
this
we're
looking
to
give
an
alcohol
license
to
a
bar,
another
bar
yeah,
and
yet
that's
okay,
it's
right
across
the
street
from
a
park
and
that
church
I.
Just
don't
understand
that
you
know
so.
Hopefully,
I
can
you
know
figure
out
what's
going
on
with
that,
but
as
it
is
I
that's
about
it.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
coming.
It
wasn't
for
me.
N
U
N
W
We
understand
you
know
that
laws
are
made
for
a
reason.
You
know,
and
we
don't
want
to
break
any
laws.
Really
we
don't
I,
don't
my
husband
and-
and
he
came
in
here
thinking
you
know
it
was
calm.
He
thought
all
right,
whatever
works
out,
then
when
he
heard
that
an
alcohol
license
was
gonna,
be
across
the
street
from
the
park.
You
know
it
just
kind
of
was
like
overwhelming
to
him.
So
we
have
we've
just
wondered,
you
know,
because
we
have
searched
out
for
property
and
no.
W
D
S
J
C
D
W
Okay,
well,
that's
all
I
have
to
say
and
I
and
I
hope
you
understand.
You
know
his
frustration
tonight
to
with
the
the
new
winery
in
this
and
and
in
his
brainy's
he's
trying
to
help
people.
You
know-
and
we
do
of
course
we're
not
saying
that
we
don't
have
just
people
that
are
stop
smokers.
You
know
we
have
both
clientele,
you
know,
but
you
know
we
did
open
with
the
whole
purpose
of
getting
our
our
young
fighters.
W
Our
youngest
son
used
to
fight
tough
mountain
boxer
competitions
and
he
and
some
of
the
other
boxers
fighters
they
smoked,
and
so
it's
like
well,
alright.
How?
How
do
we
stop?
You
know
and,
and
then
it's
kind
of
morphed
and
and
then
you
know
no
matter
what
we
do.
You
know
it
does
outsell
the
the
other
things
that
we
have
in
there.
So,
but
you
know,
and
it's
not
safe,
but
in
our
brains,
it's
just
a
it's
a
little
safer
than
you
know.
A
bar
across
the
street
I
have.
D
On
my
visit,
there
is
obvious
they
have
done
everything
they
possibly
can
to
comply
they're
there.
The
word
vapor
is
gone
completely
or
partially
on
everything.
They've
got
the
bait
counters
behind
a
closed
door
in
a
back
room.
They've
got
all
their
other
retail
items
that
they
can
possibly
get
into
the
remainder
of
the
space
and,
like
he
said
he
sells
one
one
vape
device
and
he's
got
us,
sell
twenty
few
shirts
to
balance
that
for
the
forty
percent,
so
they're
in
a
tight
spot.
All.
J
N
N
E
F
F
E
F
J
Legally
sure,
but
could
it
get
the
city
in
the
trouble
of
pull
funding
and
the
state
could
do
a
lot
of
things
to
hurt?
You
know
we.
We
saw
this
over
the
summer,
where
some
cities
were
outlawing
fireworks,
that's
a
violation
of
state
code
that
the
city
wants
to
do
that
they
can
do
that,
but
we
run
the
risk
of
having
what.
D
E
B
X
Y
Y
It's
not
very
nice,
but
I
guess
self-deprecation
is
always
good
and
funny.
Hey
I,
just
want
to
thank
I
mean
I,
you
know,
I
got
up
with
lots
to
say,
and
the
council
has
been
very
thoughtful
and
considerate
in
asking
a
lot
of
questions
and
finding
out
the
real
necessity
here
and
I
like
I
like
what
Paul's
saying
about
you
know
questioning.
Is
this
really
a
law
from
the
state
level
that
has
authority
on
us
or
whether
the
city
has
the
ability
to
change
or
if
it's
a
recommendation
from
the
state?
Y
That
is
that
I
felt
personally
I
would
like
to
stand
with
an
industry
that
seems
to
be
the
minority,
especially
when
the
majority
is
beating
up
on
them
and
in
my
opinion
there
is
no
industry
in
our
lifetimes
that
has
been
as
badly
beat
as
the
tobacco
industry
and
the
vape
industry.
While
it
appears
to
be
something
that
can
help
get
people
free
of
tobacco
has
been
tied
in
right
in
with
them,
and
it's
getting
beat
up
too
and
and
I
feel
compelled
very
strongly
to
stand
with
them
in
support.
Y
I've
never
smoked
tobacco
I've,
never
chewed
tobacco
I've,
never
smoked,
vape
I
still
stand
with
them.
I
think
that
everybody
has
rights
to
a
livelihood,
to
be
able
to
work
and
earn
a
living,
and
it's
terrifying
to
me
that
an
arbitrary
rule
written
by
some
council
or
some
legislative
body
somewhere
is
now
taking
away
the
livelihood
of
employees
and
maybe
soon
their
boss.
Y
Arbitrary
rules
in
government
take
the
government
out
of
its
proper
role
as
a
referee,
and
it
puts
them
on
the
playing
field
and
they
become
a
player
in
the
marketplace,
and
justice
is
defeated
in
that
act.
I
look
around
town
and
I
see
where
do
I
think
where
do
I
see
cigarettes
being
sold
or
I,
see
chewing
tobacco
being
sold?
Where
do
I
see
vape
being
sold,
I
see
it
every
day
in
the
gas
station
and
by
volume
of
sales.
Y
Y
Y
If
you
didn't
want
to
take
big
steps,
like
daring
the
state
to
enforce
against
us,
you
know
it
would
be
to
say:
okay,
look.
We
knew
when
they
signed
up
that
they
were
a
vape
shop,
their
grandfather
that
would
seem
to
be
a
positive
movement.
I,
don't
think
it's
enough,
but
I
think
it's
better
than
taking
away
their
license
and
putting
them
out
of
business.
G
My
name
is
Jeremiah
Davis
co-owner
of
DD
smoke,
some
more
as
much
as
any
other
specialty
shop
in
this
city
would
love
to
not
see
this
law
on
the
books
I
at
least
as
our
business
and
possibly
as
others.
If
the
council
gives
exception
to
one
business
and
not
the
others,
I
could
potentially
see
a
group
lawsuit
coming
upon
the
city
because
all
the
rest
of
the
vape
shops
that
try
to
go
in
these
other
areas,
we're
told
we
were
not
allowed
to
go
up
in
those
areas.
G
We've
numerously
been
trying
to
find
other
locations
in
order
to
put
other
shops
at
and
it's
just
ain't
possible.
There
are
a
total
right
now
with
the
way
the
laws
wrote.
There
are
a
total
of
three
locations
that
are
now
not
locked
down
in
this
city,
one
of
which
is
35
acres
that
sits
on
the
north
interchange.
The
other
one
sits
just
under
I
believe
23
acres.
That
is
right
across
the
street
from
that
35
acres
and
the
other
area
would
be
port.
G
15
415
would
never
work
for
a
retail
shop,
which
would
be
completely
ridiculous
and
no
vape
shops
got
the
money
to
buy
22,
much
less
35
acres
of
prime
northern
cedar
city,
interchange,
property,
but
the
rest
of
the
shops
have
all
been
trying
to
get
onto
the
north
end.
Because
that's
why
the
north
end
shop
does
good
is
because
everybody
else
has
been
pretty
much
stuck
with
going
to
the
south
end
of
the
valley
and
I
mean
it
makes
a
big
difference
right
now.
G
So
it
makes
a
huge
difference
on
those
of
us
have
had
to
obey
the
law
since
the
law
went
into
effect.
As
for
the
shop
they
talked
about
across
the
street
here
of
where
they
say
that
they
have
been
there
and
that
they
don't
understand
why
they're
Grandaddy,
that
shop
has
actually
been
there
since,
before
any
of
us,
decided
to
come
to
town
and
open
up
a
shop.
G
There's
a
huge
clientele
of
people
up
there
that
are
looking
for
shopping
every
time,
you're
in
here
and
hearing
somebody
talk
about
that
North
End
and
you
hear
the
people
that
live
up
there.
The
only
thing
that
ever
asking
for
is,
they
want
more
parks
and
more
shopping
on
the
north
end
and
pretty
much
any
of
vape
shops.
G
If
they
were
to
move
up
onto
that,
North
End
would
do
great
just
because
of
the
fact
that
they're
up
there
in
an
area
where
nobody
else
is
that
nobody
wants
to
have
to
drive
into
the
Walmart
shopping
center.
In
order
to
go
grab
a
six
dollar
bottle
of
juice.
Nobody
wants
to
have
to
drive
all
the
way
out
of
town
in
order
to
get
a
six
dollar
bottle
of
juice.
They'd,
rather
be
able
to
just
go
out,
walk
across
the
street
and
be
able
to
go
buy
it.
G
That's
all
I
have
to
say
right
now
on
that
matter,
but
overall
it
would
possibly
open
up
to
where
the
other
vape
shops
might
not
find
it
nice.
The
fact
that
they've
had
to
go
sign
leases
that
are
three
to
four
times
the
amount
of
money
of
water,
what
it
cost
them
to
be
in
a
location
up
there,
but
most
of
us
have
dropped
out
and
leases.
So
far
for
our
properties,
we
could
have
just
about
bought
a
building
up
on
the
north
end
or
in
the
center
of
town,
just
north
of
that
area.
G
That
law
inside
and
out
I've
actually
been
inside
a
Tyler's
office
Paul's
office
back
when
Paul
was
the
city
attorney.
I
was
in
there
with
the
I've,
been
in
there
with
the
building
department,
the
engineering
department
we've
been
spending
countless
hours,
trying
to
figure
out
where
we
were
able
to
move
our
new
location
to
you.
D
G
G
There's
other
cities
that
view
the
law
in
different
areas
and,
like
the
attorney
said
the
thing
about
that,
though,
is
that
if
the
state
ever
goes
down
in
there
to
crack
down,
they
could
say
that
they're
out
of
violation,
and
they
could
run
into
the
same
issues
that
they're
running
into
right
now
up
in
the
far
north
end
of
Utada,
where
they
issued
licenses,
then
they
went
and
was
told
that
they
had
to
get
rid
of
them
licenses
because
they
were
breaking
state
law.
I.
D
G
Was
unaware
of
the
house
part,
though?
We've
we've
done
a
lot
of
hours
in
investigation
into
where
we
could
actually
go
and
finally
found
a
spot
that
we
could
go
into
and,
like
I
said
it
made
a
huge
difference
in
price.
I
mean
we're
talking
two
and
a
half
times
what
it
would
have
cost
us
to
be
able
to
get
into
a
already
operating
building.
T
O
Clarified
the
gas
stations
all
the
gas
stations
were
granddaddy
dents
in
2012
new
gas
stations
are
going
now.
They
have
to
abide
by
this
ordinance
and
gasoline
is
a
small
factor
that
a
key
factor
of
gasoline
there's
no
way
that
they'd
have
35%
tobacco
sales,
but
where
gas
don't
count
through
total
sales,
then
your
new
gas
stations
could
possibly
be
a
specialty
store
too,
depending
on
how
they're
inside
cells
are.
But
the
old
gas
station
were
all
granddaddy
din
as
of
2012.
C
B
Anybody
else
like
to
dress
this
mm-hmm.
Okay,
all
right,
we'll
put
move
this
onto
the
action,
so
we
can
do
more
research
and
yep
for
next
week.
Okay,
item
number
four
is
to
consider
denying
Joe
melling's
request
to
annex
property
into
the
city
and
entering
a
conditional
annexation
agreement
requiring
the
property
to
annex
into
the
city.
Once
the
infrastructure
is
made
available.
X
X
The
nearest
water
line
is
right.
Here
you
can
down
3,000
north
and
down
2300
west,
it's
a
little
over
three
eighths
of
them
or
five
eighths
of
a
mile
I've
talked
with
Kent
and
Jonathan
Jonathan
did
a
estimate
of
what
it
would
just
bring
the
water
to
here
and
that's
roughly
a
half
million
dollars
for
five
watch.
You
can't
afford
that,
and
so
what
I'm
really
asking
for?
Is
you
to
say
that
you,
okay,
with
this
being
subdivided
as
minor,
not
subdivision
in
the
county?
X
At
this
point,
I've
worked
with
Kenton
Tyler,
primarily
with
an
agreement
that
says
when,
when
the
water
gets
within
reasonable
cincin,
they
pick
250
feet.
That's
fine
with
me,
then
we
would
bring
these
Lots
up
to
the
city
standard.
Is
that
fair,
Tyler,
and
so
basically
I
can't
go
to
the
county
with
the
subdivision,
plat
and.
X
D
C
D
I
understand
miss
Pearson
was
concerned
that
the
people
that
take
these
Lots
could
have
a
giant
bill
waiting
for
them
to
entrap
them
or
whatever,
and
so
she
wanted
that
indicated
on
it
on
the
title
or
something
that
effect.
But
then
it
was
pointed
out
that
these
are
for
mister
melling's
family
and
they
know
what
they're
getting
into
well.
D
X
C
X
E
X
You've
got
really
is
the
peninsula
up
into
the
city
boundary,
and
it
goes
clear
down
to
the
airport.
There
are
almost
down
to
where
the
road
comes
around
from
the
airport
for
flying
l
flood
from
this
point
to
the
south
end
of
where
the
city
boundary
is
three-quarters
of
a
mile
and
they're
written
the
closest
water
up
on
the
south
side,
the
property
is
that
you
gots
facility
is
that
correct.
J
Only
the
only
troubling
thing
I
see
is:
if
mr.
Melling
eventually
decides
to
sell
this
property
to
his
kids,
they
don't
develop
it,
and
then
they
sell
it
to
someone
else.
Eventually
we're
going
to
get
an
owner
in
there
that
if
they
don't
really
check
this
title
report,
they
that
water
line
gets
within
250
feet
and
they're
gonna
have
two
years
to
put
in
150
to
200
thousand
dollars
worth
from
the
Kruegers.
C
A
D
X
X
N
N
N
X
N
X
N
X
And
I
guess
my
feeling
and
I'm
I've
probably
dealt
with
this
kind
of
problems
as
much
as
maybe
more
than
anybody
in
this
room,
but
I
think
the
agreement
that
Tyler's
put
on
and
the
fact
that
I
can
make
sure
that,
as
that
ring
goes
out
of
my
name,
the
people
that
get
it
or
where
and
they're.
They
know
that
if
they
sell
right,
they
have
that
obligation
to
tell
people.
C
N
X
We'll
want
to
make
sure
that
all
the
buildings
they're
all
the
homes
are
built
with
the
proper
setbacks
for
for
the
city.
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
of
any
that
are
any
less
for
the
county
than
what
the
city
is
right
now.
I
haven't
really
reviewed
them
in
real
detail,
but
just
a
quick
read
through
them.
It
appears
that
if
you
meet
the
county,
setbacks
and
things
that
you've
also
met
this,
the
city's.
R
Not
really
at
this
point,
one
thing
I
did
bring
up
with
the
Planning
Commission
live
just
seemed
kind
of
calm.
Contrary
to
the
drain
is
that
we
have
an
annexation
plan
area
and
then
and
all
that
we'd
agreed
to
an
ax.
But
then
we
come
in
and
do
this
little
things
where
we've
now
our
dream
to
not
an
exit.
So
we
talk
through
that.
R
X
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
went
out
well,
there
was
too
many
reasons
when
that
annexation
declaration
boundary
was
first
there,
any
kind
of
talked
about,
maybe
having
it
on
three
thousand
North,
which
is
this
road,
but
eventually
I.
Think
three
thousand
North
will
be
one
of
the
major
east-west
corridors
and
I've
seen
some
very
sad
situations
with
public
safety.
People
where
a
major
corridor
is
also
an
annexation
boundary
where
you
have
two
different
political
entities
on
the
two
sides
of
it.
X
C
V
Tom
jet
I'm
surprised,
you
don't
remember
that
Paul
we
just
talked
earlier,
the
the
I'm
a
little
bit
confuse
are.
We
is
this
proposal
saying
that
he
will
accept
annexation
in
the
future
or
I
guess.
So,
if
we
do,
annex
annex
there
won't
be
a
property,
doesn't
have
an
option
to
say
no,
we
don't
want
to
be
anything.
That's.
V
C
V
C
Z
B
Z
What
we
have
is
proposal
to
build
some
storage
units
and
there's
some
offices
on
the
front
that
will
have
water
and
sewer
and
the
nearest
sewer
line
is
336
feet
right
here
right
about
there,
so
they've
gone
up,
they've
just
gone
exist
that
well
we're
over
the
300
feet
away.
So
we'll
do
a
septic
system,
but
tell
them.
You
know
they
had
to
come
in
here
and
get
to
get
your
approval.
So
we
have
done
some
checking
and
they
could
hook
onto
this
sewer,
but
it's
about
half
again
as
much
as
the
septic
system.
F
B
Z
They'd
have
to
do
to
connect
to
it
is
they
would
have
to
run
a
mainline
and
a
manhole
down
here
and
then
stop
across
the
street,
and
it
ends
up
I.
Think
Jonathan
did
an
estimate.
It
was
about
$12,000,
I,
believe
and
their
their
septic
systems
cost
about
$6,000.
So
it's
kind
of
hard
to
you
know
want
to
spend
double
for
something
if
they
don't
need
to
do
it.
So.
E
E
Z
And
I
the
but
they're
required
to
put
in
a
what
connection
to
connect
onto
the
sewer
when
it's
closer.
So
that's
not
an
issue.
The
issue
is
right
now
the
cost
of
bringing
the
sewer
up
versus
doing
a
septic
system
and
then,
when
it
gets
closer
to
connecting
to
it,
you
know:
that's
that's
where
we're
at
since.
R
D
R
Here
shows
the
the
new
road
alignment
when
we
connect
Coal
Creek
Road
to
Kittyhawk
and
make
that
the
main
thoroughfare
versus
going
down
bulldog,
there's,
probably
gonna,
be
a
buildable
piece
of
property
over
here
in
this
corner
and
sewer
main
that
would
trigger
the
sewer
main
being
extended
up
further
to
the
east.
If
that
property
develops
so.
D
Course
you
got
a
whole
yard
of
porta-potties
right
there.
You
could
just
use
some
dill,
okay,
Jonathan
I,
don't
know
if
you
wrote
this
backwards
or
if
I'm
understanding
it
backwards,
but
I
didn't
get
it.
It's
probably
kind
of
like
go
math
be
doing
that.
Talk
to
the
teacher.
This
new
septic
system
would
create
a
density
of
approximately
72
acres
per
septic
system,
which
is
less
suspect
system
density
than
the
15
acres
per
system.
That
is
recommended.
You
do
you
mean
systems
per
acre?
Are
you
talking
a
KERS
per
system?
I?
Don't
get
it.
AA
S
D
D
AA
What
we're
concerned
about
here
in
this
area
a
couple
of
things:
one
is
the
soil
conditions
where
it's
very
gravely
area,
obviously,
and
so
that
it's
going
to
percolate
down
into
the
name
of
the
groundwater
faster.
The
other
issue
is
when
we
looked
at
the
number
of
restrooms
that
they're
going
to
have
in
the
facility.
They
had
six
six
bathrooms
and
we
were
a
little
bit
concerned
about
that
and
then,
as
we'd
like
to
from
an
engineering
standpoint
to
hook
onto
the
sewer,
we
felt
like
it's,
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
get
that
done.
AA
S
AA
AA
Z
F
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
One
issue
we
have
right
now
is:
if
we
run
that
straight
down,
it
wouldn't
be
in
the
new
roadway
that
you're
gonna
put
in
the
new
roadway
comes
over
like
this
and
then
comes
out,
so
it
would
be
running
through
the
back
of
that
property,
but
it
wouldn't
be
in
the
roadway.
The
future
road
it'd
be
the
roadway
now,
but
not
the
future.
Roadway
I,
don't
know
if
that.
P
D
Z
D
Z
Well,
they'll
have
a
six-inch
lateral
coming
out
of
their
property,
but
then
it
has
to
go
into
an
8
inch
main
and
the
standard
is
that
there'd
be
a
manhole
there,
I
mean
if
we
could.
You
know,
eliminate
the
manhole
for
now
and
put
a
clean-out
or
something
and
still
run
the
AVH.
We
might
could
get
the
cost
down
where
maybe
it
would
make
sense,
but
as
it
is
to
be
the
main
and
then
the
mantle
and
stuff
it's
pretty
costly.
So.
D
D
Z
It
actually
wouldn't
have
to
be
done
until
even
spring,
because
it's
I
mean
they're,
not
gonna,
get
theirs
in
until
putting
everything
in
until
probably
spring.
So
if
we,
if
that
was
even
extended
out
there
by
the
spring,
they
could
tie
into
it
when
they
get.
You
know
to
the
end
of
their
construction
before
they
get
there
not
with
that,
would
save
them
heaven
they
wouldn't
put
in
a
septic,
and
they
would
just
run
their
line
across
the
road
and
tie
it
in
if.
Z
B
V
V
One
one
one
just
and
I'm
not
trying
to
rain
on
anybody's
parade,
but
one
thing
the
city
could
consider
is
paying
for
the
20
feet
or
the
21
feet
or
whatever
that
shortage
is
until
it
triggers
the
the
less
than
300.
But
the
better
alternative
to
that
was
if,
if
the
the
developer
of
this
property
were
to
put
that
in
I,
believe
there's
something
in
the
ordinance
that
that
states
that
the
developer
can
be
reimbursed
for
part
of
their
cost
on
hookup.
Am
I
mi,
or
is
that
only
four
am
I
done.
E
V
Z
V
I
know
I
understand
I'm,
just
giving
just
you
know,
we
always
have
new
new
elected
officials.
That
may
not
be
aware
of
some
of
the
historical
things
that
have
done
to
creative
to
make
things
happen.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
again:
I'm
not
trying
to
rain
on
anybody's
prayed
I'm.
Just
saying
these
are
thoughts
that
the
to
make
things
happen
versus
two.
If
the
city
didn't
have
the
money
to
extend
it,
these
are
still
options
that
we
could
use
to
make
it
a
win-win
situation
for
from.
R
B
R
Z
Got
these
there's
fiber-optic
and
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
water,
a
bunch
of
things
in
this
road,
so
I,
don't
think
the
road
would
ever
really
go
away.
You've
got
to
maintain
lease
agreements
and
right
now
that
the
sewer
is
located
south
of
the
asphalt
so
putting
it
in
doesn't
require
tearing
up
Kitty
Hawk.
The
only
tear
up
would
be
just
across
bulldog
Road,
so
that
is
pretty
minimal
right
now,
until.
Z
O
AA
Z
G
Z
B
AB
You
get
all
three
of
us
budget
was
approved
for
replacing
breaching
end
of
life,
rotary
jump
screen
at
the
waste
fighting
them
plan,
dad
Road
we
jump
screen,
has
reached
its
end
of
life
now,
and
we
have
put
out
a
request
for
proposals.
We
got
one
proposal
back
construction.
Still
we
reviewed
that
proposal.
We
found
it
acceptable.
AB
They
their
overall
cost
with
proposal
is
one
hundred.
Eighty
nine
thousand
four
hundred
thirty-eight
he
approved
budget
based
on
our
estimate
was
one
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand.
So
a
budget
revision
request
has
been
submitted
to
cover
that
additional
expense.
We
as
staff
feel
that
it's
important
to
get
this
rotary
jump
screen
in.
D
The
name
of
the
company
makes
it
sound
like
they
just
build,
they
just
happen
to
go
out
and
build
these
when
somebody
wants
not
like
they're
a
company
that
does
this,
so
is
that
I
mean
there's?
Not
just
company
make
these
things
and
you
buy
them
right
off
the
shelf
or
they
have
to
be
custom-built
good.
AB
Good
question
and
we
we
sent
out
a
proposal
replacing
the
same
gem
screen
that
we
had
in
there
and
that
was
a
lakeside
load.
We
jump
straight.
That
manufacturer
does
not
do
the
installation
of
it,
and
so
we
had
to.
We
wanted
to
submit
a
proposal
to
see
who
can
come
in
remove
the
old
one
there
about
five
thousand
pounds
and
long
and
odd
and.