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From YouTube: CFCS Linux SIG Meeting July 14 2021
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That
you
could
say
that
you've
done
is.
I
think
that
you've
helped
put
the
seed
somewhere
else,
because
since
we've
been
talking
about
on
the
workshops-
and
I
think
I
kind
of
mentioned-
that
central
florida
had
done
theirs-
at
least
in
my
regional
reports-
that
I
do
from
my
regions,
but
the
cent
the
columbia.
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B
I
said
all
right,
you
know,
let's
do
that,
but
let's
let's
focus
on
the
average
user,
I
mean
absolutely
you
can
you
can
dig
into
an
operating
system
like
windows,
for
example,
and
like
we
used
to
do
with
ms-dos
back
in
the
day,
and
you
can
learn
all
the
command
structures
and
the
file
structures
and
the
ins
and
outs
and
the
batch
programming
and
and
so
on,
but
never
really
focus
on
what
the
user
got.
The
computer
for
in
the
first
place,
unless
they're
a
hobbyist
where
they
really
wanted
to
do
that.
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A
A
20.0
will
be
good
for
five
years,
and
so
there's
no
need
that
you
have
to.
Unless
you
see
that
the
20.02
has
something
that
you
really
want
to
have,
but
it
may
come
down
later
as
a
little
update,
but
for
those
people
who
want
stability,
this
is
a
long
term,
so
20.0
that
we
have
will
go
five
years
without
having
to
be
upgraded
at
all.
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It's
I
guess
you
can
go
on
to
the
on
to
the
linux
mint
site
and
actually
look
at
what's
new
in
the
in
the
update
and
and
that's
always
good
to
do
too
just
to
get
an
idea.
What's
there,
unlike
windows,
I
don't
think
we
really
get
security
changes
stewie
in
in
these
typical
updates,
because
windows
has
a
tendency
to
to
really
push
all
kinds
of
security
updates
out.
Yeah.
A
You
get
security
updates
all
the
time
you
know
with
with
the
linux
some
linux
distros
will
even
let
you
set
up
and
say:
don't
bother
me
telling
me
that
there
are
security
updates,
just
go
ahead
and
install
them,
because
I
know
I
want
them.
So
just
do
it,
and
so
you
never
know
you're
getting
security
updates,
because
you've
said
don't
bother
me
with
it.
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A
Debian
was
one
it's,
the
second
oldest
one
from
debian
ubuntu
said:
hey,
we
can
take
the
recipe
for
debian
and
we
can
make
it
do
a
little
bit
more
later
on
mint
said:
hey
we
like
what
ubuntu
has
done,
but
there
are
things
that
we
don't
like
about
ubuntu,
so
we're
going
to
make
a
version
of
linux
based
off
of
ubuntu,
which
is
based
off
a
debian
and
make
it
better,
and
then
there
are
other
people
who
will
be
taking
variations
of
all
those.
So
basically,
we
are
all
part
of
the
debian
family.
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C
B
Then
we're
going
to
download
an
app
image
and
an
app
image
is,
is
a
compressed
image
with
everything
needed
to
run
the
program,
all
the
files,
all
the
supporting
files.
Everything
is
there
so
you're,
not
installing
it
in
your
system,
you're
just
literally
running
it
and
I
found
an
interesting
flight
simulator.
B
I
think
it
will
run
on
this
notebook.
I
don't
know
I
tried
it
on
on
one
of
the
desktops
and
then
on
a
great
big
screen.
It
looked
pretty
impressive
and
then
there
are
programs
that,
even
though
you
can
download
the
package
that,
without
going
into
the
terminal
and
making
a
lot
of
entries
to
make
that
package
run,
if
you
run
an
installation
script,
it'll
access
what
you
downloaded
and
then
install
it
for
you,
so
I
had
been
using
a
privacy
focused
web
browser.
It's
based
on
mozilla
and
it's
it's
it's
bait.
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B
So
somebody
wrote
a
nice
script
that
made
it
very
easy,
knock
on
wood
and
then
I'm
using
proton
vpn
as
my
vpn,
along
with
my
proton
mail,
and
they
do
have
a
version
for
linux
and
there
are
a
few
terminal
commands
that
they
would
like
you
to
use
to
install
it.
So
we'll
see
how
we
use
those
commands
to
install
it
and
then
finally,
on
the
web,
I
found
a
linux
software
at
monserra
bay.
I
guess
it
is
dot
com,
software
installations
and
he
he
talks
about
eight
ways.
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B
B
A
word
about
chromium
is
many
of
you
have
used
chrome
as
your
primary
browser
on
your
windows,
computer
and
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
what
I
wanted
to
do.
With
my
little
note,
personal
notebook
is,
I
did
want
that
compatibility,
but
I
wanted
I
didn't
want
it
to
be
in
the
google
environment,
so
chromium
is
actually
an
open
source
project
and
it's
available
to
be
installed
on
its
own.
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A
B
B
B
B
A
It's
my
understanding
that
a
lot
of
them
you
know
are
included
in
config
files
that
are
kind
of
you
know
out
there
and
you
know,
as
as
you
were
doing
all
all
of
your
work.
You
know
my
little,
you
know
kind
of
chuckle
at
the
back
was
you
know,
that's
a
lot
of
work,
because
windows
takes
up
so
much
room
with
linux.
Being
so
small
we've
I've
never
ever
worried
about
moving
the
cache
here
there.
A
I
move
my
my
home
directory
to
a
separate
partition
or
separate
hard
drive,
but
you
know
I
I
never
worry
about
that.
You
know
I've
got
you
know
the
the
swap.
You
know
if
need
be,
and
it's
just
it's
just
so
small.
You
know
a
whole
distro
installs
in
you
know
10
gigs
and
so
even
on
128,
and
they
just
don't
junk
up
as
much
as
the
other
ones
do.
B
Okay,
so
we
installed
chromium,
but
unlike
windows,
you
say
well
wait
a
minute.
It
didn't
give
me
an
icon.
Where
did
it
go?
Well,
let's
first
start
and
find
where,
where
it
put
it,
I
could
hunt
for
chromium
but
nine
times
out
of
ten
it's
going
to
be
sitting
here
under
internet
and
there
it
is
chromium
web
browser.
So
we
know
it's
installed,
so
I'm
going
to
right
click
on
it
and
you
can
see
that
I
can
add
it
to
the
panel.
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B
C
B
And
let's
see
here,
okay,
there
are
other
web
browsers
out
there,
but
it's
a
good
example
of
opera
is.
It
is
another
one
some
of
you
may
have
heard
of
it,
some
may
not
so
going
on
by
the
chinese.
You
know
the
first
thing
I
did
was
say
all
right:
let's
see
if
it's
in
the
software
store,
so
I
went
to
the
software.
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C
B
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C
B
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A
A
B
So,
oh,
it's!
Okay!
Now
it's
saying
the
same
version's
already
installed,
because
I'm
back
at
the
install
window.
This
caught
me
once
before.
When
something
like
this
happened.
It's
just
basically,
they
could
have
said
it's
finished,
but
you
can
also
tell
it's
going
to
say
reinstall
package
and
you
don't
need
to
do
that.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
close
this
and
it
can
go.
Do
the
same
thing
again:
there's
no
icon
on
the
desktop,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
I'm
pretty
sure
it'll
be
an
internet
and
it
is
so
there's
opera
right
click.
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B
You
want
to
install
it
for
linux,
see
if
in
fact,
it's
just
going
to
download
a
package
that
is
naturally
supported
by
your
version
of
linux,
which
would
be
a
dot
deb
and
in
our
case
we
downloaded
it,
but
you
could
have
just
say,
install
it's
kind
of
like
in
windows
when
you
download
an
exe
file
and
you
get
prompted,
do
you
want
to
ins?
Do
you
want
to
run
it
or
do
you
want
to
ins?
Save
it,
and
I
almost
always
save
it
first,
sometimes
even
scanning
it.
B
Okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
an
apple
image
program,
flight
gear,
flight
simulator
are
not
apple
but
app
image,
and
I
keep
doing
that.
Let's
see,
I
see
appl.
Oh,
that's
apple,
no,
app
image,
app
image,
okay,
so
back
to
the
back
to
the
firefox
and
we're
done
with
this
guy.
So
I'm
going
to
get
rid
of
him,
and
I
I
I
was
looking
around
for
app
images
and
there's
actually
a
library
site.
That's
got
thousands
of
app
image
things
on
it.
B
So
when
I
found
it,
I
just
went
ahead
and
said
all
right.
I'm
gonna!
I'm
gonna
try
this
so
all
kinds
of
support
if,
if
you're
a
flight,
simulator
person
all
kinds
of
support
on
this
website
more
than
you
probably
want
to
know,
but
I
will
say
when
I
did
this
for
my
desktop
and
said
all
right:
I
want
to
run
it
and
see
what
what
it
looks
like.
B
I
got
a
cessna
sitting
on
the
runway
with
the
brakes
locked
and
the
engine
off
in
iceland
at
keflavik,
iceland,
with
the
volcano
smoking
in
the
distance,
and
I
said
all
right
well,
I
want
to
fly
it.
You
know,
I
said
what
do
I
do
now
and
literally
you
got
to
figure
out
what
you
have
to
do.
I
mean
you've
got
the
manual.
B
You
figure
it
out,
but
this
thing
simulates
every
little
detail
of
the
cockpit
of
assassin
airplane
right
down
to
turning
the
keys
on
turning
the
avionics
power
on
turning
the
magnetos
on
setting
the
throttle
settings,
and
it's
it's
quite
extensive.
It
may
be
too
demanding
for
this
notebook.
I
don't
know,
but
anyway
we're
going
to
try
to
do
this.
Okay.
So
now,
let's
see,
I
really
want
to
see
the
down
here,
we'll
go
download
for
linux
and
what
I
wanted
to
get
was
the
app
image.
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A
B
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B
B
B
B
A
B
B
C
B
B
A
A
B
B
B
B
C
B
B
B
So
when
I
get
the
data
I'm
going
to
put
the
data
archive
here,
I'm
going
to
unzip,
it
is
the
way
I
would
call
it
it's
a
it's
a
tar,
zip
archive
and
it
will
create
its
own
data
folder
and
it'll,
be
in
the
same
folder
that
the
flight
gear
needs
in
order
to
run
so
I'm
just
going
to
leave.
Well,
let's
see,
I
need
to
go
back
anyway
to
download
so
we'll
go
back
to.
B
B
Okay,
next
on
the
agenda
is
the
one
that
caused
me,
the
greatest
pain,
and
that
is
trying
to
install
something
that
doesn't
even
pretend
to
tell
you
how
to
install
it.
In
fact,
if
you
go
to
the
website
for
waterfox,
there's
nothing
that
tells
you
how
to
install
it
just
says:
here's
an
archive
that
you
can
download.
B
B
And
again,
we've
got
an
archive
that
has
been
tarred
and
it's
got
a
slightly
different
compression
utility,
it's
a
b,
zip
type
archive
and,
interestingly
enough,
it's
only
72.1
megabytes.
So
while,
while
my
data
is
downloading,
it
is
about
halfway
we'll
just
timeshare
and
tell
it
to
go
ahead
and
save
that.
A
C
A
B
B
B
I've
noticed
in
a
number
of
sites
that
if
I
log
in
using
waterfox
my
chase
credit
card
site's
one
of
them
that
says
we
don't
recognize
this
browser.
Please
update
your
browser
and
try
again
or
choose
another
browser,
so
there
there
are
some
incompatibilities
that
are
traded
off
for
privacy
and
security
in
some
cases.
B
B
B
A
B
B
B
And
then,
if
you
want
super
security,
they
then
route
it
through
either
switzerland,
sweden
or
iceland,
and
then
to
your
your
server
of
choice
in
the
united
states.
It
slows
things
down,
but
if
you
have
the
need
for
ultra
security
and
what
you're
using
the
internet
for
and
it,
it
doesn't
slow
me
down
that
much
probably
about
40
40
megabits,
a
second
up
and
are
down
rather
and
about
eight
to
ten
up
so
for
doing,
email
and
and
file
transfers
to
private
file
transfers.
Things
like
that.
B
B
B
C
B
B
So
now
we
want
to
uncompress
it
so
that
the
program
knows
what
to
do
with
it
once
I've
uncompressed
it.
I
can
actually
delete
this
data
package
both
from
here
and
from
the
downloads,
but
it
you
know
we
have
to
undo
it
so
I'll,
right,
click
on
it
and
say
it
should
have
now.
I
would
oh
here
we
go,
I'm
just
going
to
say
extract
here.
B
A
The
actual
creator
of
opera
gave
it
up
because
he
was
just
too
tired
and
it
was
a
lot
of
work
to
maintain
and
everything.
So
he
turned
it
over
to
the
development
team
and
then,
a
few
years
later
he
wasn't
happy
with
the
direction
they
were
going.
So
he
got
his
old
recipe
out
and
he
said
I'm
going
to
make
it
like
it's
supposed
to
be
and
that's
where
vivaldi
comes
from.
B
A
C
A
C
C
C
B
B
It's
got
some
weird
prefix
and
you
know
a
dot-com
or
something
on
the
on
the
other
end
and
and
and
you
could
actually
go
to
that
address
and
receive
email
if
you
wish,
but
it's
just
there
so
that
you
can
put
that
into
a
form
that
says
we
need
your
email
address
to.
Let
you
download
this
product
or
something
along
those
lines.
B
B
This
should
in
fact
recognize
this
data
and
start
the
program,
let's
find
out
double-click
okay,
so
I
still
have
to
say
tell
me,
where
browse,
to
download
copy
your
files
on
your
computer.
Okay,
you
still
have
to
tell
it
where
it
is.
It
knows
I'm
here
because
that's
where
I
started
the
program,
there's
the
data
file,
I'm
going
to
say,
choose.
B
C
B
B
This
shows
you
essentially
how
you
would
install
a
program
from
a
website
that
wants
you
to
create
an
app
image
file
and
in
fact,
waterfox
does
have
an
app
image
file
too,
which
it
took
me
a
long
time
to
find,
but
I
I
didn't
want
to
run
it
from
that
archive.
I
wanted
to
actually
install
it,
so
I'm
not
going
to
update
at
this
point
I
could
update
and
and
get
the
updated
data
and,
as
I
recall,
looking
back
on
the
website,
there
was
a
download
of
the
of
the
updated
files.
B
B
B
B
B
Now
I
honestly
don't
recall
whether
the
script
that
I
have
works
with
with
waterfox
as
an
archive
or
I
have
to
un-archive
it
first
and
get
a
file
folder,
but
we'll
go
back
to
downloads,
and
I'm
pretty
sure
that
I
put
that
yes
here
is
the
install
waterfox
script.
So
I'm
going
to
copy
that
one
into
the
same
folder.
B
No,
it
took
me
hours
of
searching
the
internet
to
find
it.
I
had
sent
all
kinds
of
requests
to
the
support
people
who
didn't
really
answer
me.
They
acknowledged
that
I
had
asked
a
question,
but
they
didn't
answer
my
question
and
I
said,
come
on
guys:
I've
got
linux
mint.
How
hard
can
it
be
to
install
you
know,
and
they
say?
Oh,
we
give
you
everything.
You
need
yeah
right,
okay,
but
okay.
I
also
put
it
in
the
wrong
place.
B
I
can
open
it
up
with
a
text
editor
and
this
is
for
the
techies
if
anybody's
ever
done,
batch
programming
under
ms-dos
or
windows,
c
language
programming,
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I
mean
this
is
what
all
these
commands
could
be
entered
if
you
knew
what
you
were
doing
at
the
terminal
prompt,
but
this
guy
figured
out.
Okay.
If
I
do
all
these
things,
I
can
install
everything
you
need
it
to
do.
So,
let's
see
if
in
fact,
this
script
is
going
to
run.
B
B
B
B
B
B
Yes,
do
you
wish
to
add
a
desktop
shortcut?
Okay,
this
one.
I
found
out
it's
better
for
me
to
put
the
desktop
shortcut
than
to
let
the
script
put
the
desktop
shortcut,
because
when
the
script
put
it
on
the
desktop,
it
keeps
asking
me
every
time.
This
is
not
executable.
Do
you
want
to
execute
it?
So
I'm
going
to
say
no
in
this
case,
that's
based
on
previous
experience.
B
B
C
B
B
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
there's
proton
vpn
I'll,
go
ahead
and
put
it
in
my
internet
chain
and
now,
if
I
wish,
I
can
start
it
up
because
I'm
in
the
middle
of
the
conference
and
I'm
not
sure
what
that's
going
to
do
to
my
connection
and
the
rest
of
it
I'll
I'll
at
least
start
it.
But
I'm
not
going
to
log
in
and
do
everything
else,
that's
necessary
to
set
it
up.
That's
what
they
want
you
to
do
so
they
want
you
to
log
in.
B
I
did
set
up
an
account.
I
did
set
up
a
password,
you'll
log
in
and
then
it'll
have
you
connect
and
perhaps
in
a
future
session.
If
you
guys
are
interested
in
in
vpns,
we'll
we'll
take
a
look
at
some
of
them
and
we'll
go
through
the
procedures
and
do
all
of
that.
So
it's
let's
see
now.
If
I
can
quit
this.
A
A
B
B
B
B
Let's
see
completely
saw
a
condition
yeah,
we
did
have
a
atar
bz.
If
I
remember
correctly,
that
was
what
that
was
associated
with
the
flight
simulator
and
we
did
not
do
an
install
package
from
it
now.
This
makes
me
wonder
if
we
could
have
forced
water
fox
to
make
an
install
program
if
the
necessary
information
was
in
those
archives
that
if
we
could
have
actually
opened
up
that
water
fox
folder
and
then
do
a
make
sudo
make
install,
I'm
not
sure
I've
never
never
done
it,
not
that
familiar
with
it.
B
We
did
do
install
a
debian
file
and
we
did
do
a
script
install.
We
did
not
do
a
a
bin
file
install
and
again,
maybe
in
water
fox.
I
remember
seeing
a
bin
program
in
there.
There
was
a
water
fox
dot
bin
in
that
folder
and
perhaps
if
I
had
opened
it
up
in
the
terminal
and
given
the
command
change
modification
chmod
and
allow
an
execution
mod,
remember,
you
saw
a
little
a
box
that
said
make
x,
executable,
that's
the
same
kind
of
thing,
make
it
executable
and
then
the
file
name.
B
B
B
I
have
not
done
a
jar
file.
I've
not
come
across
it,
but
there's
pretty
much
doing
the
same
kind
of
thing.
It
runs
under
java
and
they're
telling
you
to
to
make
it
executable
and
to
run
it
and
there's
the
easiest
way.
So
we
come
full
circle.
90
of
what
you
see
out.
There
will
most
likely
be
in
the
software
manager
and
in
the
software
store,
and
if
not,
it
may
be
one
of
the
ways
that
we
saw
tonight
for
doing
this.
B
A
Yeah
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
point
to
especially
to
donna
and
any
newbie.
You
don't
have
to
do
this.
You
know
you
don't
have
to
do
it.
The
the
the
software
store
makes
it
so
easy
running
a
deb
file.
So
easy.
I
myself,
I
don't
do
app
images
or
the
other
names
that
you
know.
Ubuntu
has
their
own
snap
pack
and
somebody
else
has
a
different
one.
You
know
I
don't
do
and
once
in
a
great
while
I'll
do
the
the
longer
one.
A
B
A
good
example
is
is
maintaining
packages
one
of
the
sessions
I'd
like
to
do
in
the
future.
That's
on
the
next
slide
is
look
at
maintaining
your
computer.
What's
out
there
for
linux,
that's
like
c,
cleaner
for
windows
and
some
some
cases
they're
terminal
commands
in
other
cases,
there's
programs
to
do
it.
I
had
installed
a
number
of
packages
on
the
first
computer
that
I
I
put
linux
on
and
I
didn't
have
the
slightest
idea.
B
B
C
B
B
B
I
think
it
was
number
four
in
the
series
of
the
workshops,
no
number
five
in
the
series
of
workshops
that
talks
about
the
software
stores
and
that's
that's
an
excellent
video
to
watch.
I've
asked
for
the
supporting
materials
if
I
can
get
it
from
judy
and
to
share
with
this
this
sig.
But
if
you
go
through
and
watch
number
five
wednesday
workshop
linux
workshop
number
five
you'll
see
what
john's
talking
about
by
going
to
the
software
stores
and
and
getting
the
software
if
it's
not
available
immediately
from
the
software
manager.
B
And
again
90,
it's!
You
know
if
you're
using
your
computer
for
mail
and
browsing
in
a
browser
and
maybe
put
a
vpn
on
it.
Maybe
if
you
want
it
and
and
that's
basically
it
you-
don't
really
need
to
add
a
lot
of
stuff
that
isn't
already
included
with
the
distribution,
especially
something
as
comprehensive
as
mentis
got.
Some
people
consider
it
a
lot
of
bloat,
but
but
it's
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
good
stuff
on
it
all
right.
B
B
C
B
I
have
asked
for
number
four
and
number
five
and
and
what
I've
been
doing,
I
I
know
I'm
gaining
the
system
john,
but
what
I've
been
doing
is
if
I
can't
attend
the
workshop
because
of
because
of
conflicts,
I
can
always
put
zoom
on
my
phone,
which
I
have
and
take
five
minutes
and
log
into
the
workshop
say
hello,
judy,
I'm
here.
Unfortunately,
I
can't
stay,
but
please
keep
me
on
the
list
for
the
supporting
materials
in
the
link
and
she
does
she's
very
good
about
doing
that.
A
B
A
B
C
B
A
C
C
C
A
B
My
desktop
okay,
so
all
of
the
folders
of
your
account
are
under
your
home.
Okay,
your
your
documents,
your
downloads,
your
music,
your
pictures,
public
templates
and
videos.
Now
today,
I
created
an
apps
folder
to
contain
the
packages
that
I
downloaded,
but
all
the
software
that's
here
is
not
here.
It's
part
of
the
file
system.
B
B
A
B
A
B
Yeah
so
sean,
what
were
you?
What
were
you
looking
to
find
like
like,
for
example,
libreoffice,
is
a
part
of
the
linux
mint
distribution,
but
I
don't
have
a
libreoffice
folder.
I
can
just
launch
it.
So
if
you
wanted
to
say,
if
I
wanted
to
go
in
and
see
all
the
stuff
that's
associated
with
libreoffice.
C
A
A
C
C
A
B
B
A
C
Well,
I'd
like
to
get
to
a
path
in
the
gui
without
having
to
do
a
bunch
of
clicking.
So
if
there's
a
command
that
I
like
on
a
macintosh,
I
can
type
command,
I
figure
with
the
command
I
can.
I
can
hit
a
key
sequence
and
it'll
bring
up
a
window
that
I
can
simply
type
forward,
slash
you
know
and
then
the
path
to
where
I
want
to
go
as
soon
as
that
path
is
filled
out.
I
can
press
return
and
it'll
bring
me
to
the
window
in
the
gui.
C
C
B
B
C
C
C
A
C
C
But
there
there
are
cases
when
I'm
in
the
I'm
working
around
the
terminal,
and
I
want
that
particular
path
to
be
opened
and
in
the
win
in
the
graphical
user
interface,
and
there
should
be
a
way
to
just
type
a
command
and
have
it
transfer
the
transfer
that
over
to
the
gui,
and
I
can
and
then
manipulate
from
there
but
I'll
I'll
figure
it
out.
I'll.
Do
some
research,
maybe
I'll
post,
that
in
the.
C
A
B
That's
what
I
wanted
okay
next
on
my
list
is
when
I
first
started
looking
at
linux
this
year,
really
right
after
the
first
of
the
year.
The
first
place
I
went
to
was
youtube
and
anything
you
can
think
of
even
sean.
What
you're,
just
asking
for
you
might
find
a
video
on
on
how
to
access
how
to
search
for
files
and
or
contents,
either
from
the
terminal
or
from
the
gui
and
just
see.
B
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
new
topic
and
there's
been
authors
out
there,
putting
things
on
youtube
for
years
and
years,
so
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
topics
on
linux.
If
you've
got
the
time
you
can
find.
It
john
gave
me
two
links
today
in
an
email
which
I
put
on
here.
The
first
is
three
flavors
of
linux:
mint
review,
so
that's
the
three
desktops
and
then
more
oriented
toward
people
that
are
thinking
of
upgrading
their
computers
to
windows,
11
and
reasons
for
not
upgrading
to
windows
and
going
to
linux.
B
and
then
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
tips.
I
used
to
get
tips
from
facebook.
Well,
I've
left
facebook,
okay,
it's
over
and
done
with
it's
part
of
my
life
that
I'm
not
going
back
to
so
I
joined
miwi,
which
essentially
is
a
clone
of
facebook.
It's
got
timelines,
it's
got
groups,
it's
got
chats!
It's
got
pictures!
It's
got
just
about
everything
you
can
think
of
and
sure
enough.
It's
got
a
linux
group,
at
least
the
linux
group
that
I'm
in
at
the
moment
is
just
just:
it's
called
linux.
B
Three,
so
apparently,
there's
been
two
before
it.
It's
an
open
group.
They
may
maintain
a
little
bit
of
control
to
keep.
You
know
the
trolls
out
of
it
in
that
you
have
to
actually
post
a
post
for
the
first
time
and
the
moderators
have
to
see
the
post
and
once
you've
posted
it.
Then
they'll
accept
you
into
the
group
and
now
you're
free
to
comment
or
post
as
you
like,
and
there's
been
some
good,
some
good
tips
in
there
and
you
can
do
searches
of
the
data.
B
That's
already
been
posted
going
back
years,
so
I
would
recommend
to
you
that
if,
if
you're
getting
tired
of
facebook-
and
you
want
a
safer
location
safer
in
my
opinion,
give
mewi
a
try
and
check
out
the
linux
scoop
if
you'd
like
to.
And
finally
I
know
that
you're
all
here,
because
I
sent
a
link
out
to
tonight's
meeting
in
the
linux
at
google
groups,
but
it's
a
two-way
street.
B
C
C
B
B
Okay,
future
meetings,
so,
as
I
said
earlier,
it
took
me
a
while
to
figure
out
how
to
uninstall
software.
So
I
figured
okay
this.
This
probably
would
be
a
good
follow-on
to
installing
software.
So
I'm
going
to
leave
the
software
that
I
installed
in
and
then
I'm
going
to
see
if
we
can
uninstall
next
time
quote
unquote
easily.
I
did
notice
when
we
ran
the
script
for
waterfox,
that
one
of
the
first
questions
that
asks
is:
do
you
want
to
install
or
uninstall?
B
B
B
C
B
B
B
Even
though
there
are
ssds
in
in
all
the
computers
that
I'm
working
with
here,
drive,
maintenance
and
defragging,
and
things
like
that
and
changing
partition,
sizes
and
so
on
could
easily
be
a
topic.
And
then
today
those
of
you
who
are
also
subscribing
to
the
cfcs
tech,
sig
group.
I
spent
a
good
portion
of
the
day
because
I
had
this
prepared
tonight
prepared
the
day
before,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
relocate
the
browser,
cache
and
free
up.
B
It
turned
out
to
be
about
400
megabytes,
free
up
the
space
that
that
cache
occupies
on
the
main,
hard
drive
and-
and
I
did
find
that-
and
it
is
a
windows
utility
that
somebody
really
smart
put
together,
because
there
were
all
kinds
of
suggestions
online.
How
to
do
it,
and
so
I
will
try
to
research,
but
I'm
wondering
maybe
just
off
the
top
of
my
head.
B
B
B
B
I
did
do
that
on
my
desktop
on
one
of
my
desktops,
so
I'm
thinking,
if
I
specify
that
I
want
to
mount
a
tmp
folder
as
a
separate
partition
on
on
the
outer
space
of
the
remaining
space
on
my
computer.
It
might
be
the
same
as
just
saying
if,
if
that's
where
the
browser
cache
goes
and
that's
where
all
the
temporary
files
go,
maybe
that's
where
I
what
I
want
to
do
not
sure.
B
B
B
C
C
B
So
that's
basically
maintaining
our
our
installation.
You
know
some
things
that
we
can
talk
about:
okay,
virtual
computers-
I
still
have
an
interest
in
in
looking
at
running
a
virtual
machine
in
linux
and
installing
windows
on
it,
and
I
do
have
the
necessary
registration
code.
Although
lately
you
can
install
windows,
10
and
not
put
that
code
in
until
after
it's
installed,
and
they
want
you
to
verify
it
by
going
online
and
you
can
get
away
with
not
doing
that
for
a
while.
B
So
my
thought
was
okay,
I've
got
several
different
versions
of
windows
10,
including
home
and
pro,
and
I
also
have
windows,
7
and
I've
got
ultra
and
home,
and
so
I
thought
well,
if,
if
I
need
to,
I
could
probably
put
that
into
an
image,
bring
it
up
when
I
want
to
try
something
in
windows
and
then
close
it
again
and
not
ever
save
anything.
So
that
would
be
one
one
way
of
trying
things
out
in
windows
inside
a
linux
computer.
B
That's
a
thought
anyway,
and
then
the
other
way
around
is
running
window
programs
on
our
linux.
It
was
mentioned
in
our
first
session
when
we
were
talking
about
doing
an
installation.
Why
are
you
going
to
all
the
trouble
of
doing
an
installation
of
linux
when
you
could
just
do
it
in
a
virtual
machine
in
windows
and
play
with
it
all
you
want,
so
I
really
wanted
to
have
it
installed
on
a
computer,
several
computers,
but
it's
a
good
idea.
B
You
know
why
not
just
go
ahead
and
do
that
so
anyway,
that's
those
are
subjects
maybe
we'd
like
might
like
to
talk
about
then
the
subject
of
file
sharing
this
latest
version
of
linux
20
has
an
application
called
webinator.
I
think,
isn't
it
I
think
that's
what's
called
webinator
or
something
like
that
reminded
me
of
turbinator,
and
here
I
think
I
have
it
on
my
other
computer
and
it's
giving
me
an
error
message.
Let
me
just
see
no,
that's
not
what
I
wanted
to
do.
B
B
So
it's
it's
kind
of
the
stuff.
That's
surrounding
that.
The
things
that
you
as
a
user
would
want
to
be
able
to
do.
I
notice
I
don't
have
backup
on
here.
We've
talked
about
backup,
but
I
haven't
actually
done
one
and
that
probably
would
be
under
the
maintaining
or
the
drive
not
even
drive.
Maintenance
is
data,
maintenance
and
again
apc
ug.
Linux
workshops
have
excellent
discussions
of
the
backup
methods
and
so
on,
which
I
really
don't
want
to
duplicate.
B
C
C
So
it's
been,
we've
been
working
full-time
in
that
garage,
pretty
much,
but
I'm
really
interested
in
the
and
that
networking
that
you
mentioned
how
to
network
between
us
all
with
the
same
wi-fi
connection
and
I'd
also
like
when
you
do
your
you,
you
mentioned
something,
but
you
didn't
say:
partition
I'd
like
to
see
g
parted,
a
demonstration
of
that.
So
those
are
things
that
I.
A
C
Okay,
all
right
I'll,
then
I'll
see
it
then,
but
I'm
interested
in
the
network
part
too.
That
just
sounds
exactly
what
we
want
to
do
and
we
don't
know
how
to
do
it.
We
have
this
sandisk,
eight
terabit
thing
we
could
plug
into
the
router,
but
we
don't
know
how
to
set
up
a
network
to
even
use
that.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
we
have,
we
just
don't
know
how
to
use
yet.
B
B
Once
you
turn
it
on,
and
the
file
manager
open
it
up
and
under
network
it
should,
it
should
show
up-
and
both
you
know
should
show
up
automatically
and
about
the
only
maintenance
that
you
do
with
that.
I
know
under
windows.
It's
going
to
install
the
next
drive
letter.
So
if
you've
got
f
for
g
or
h
or
something
like
that
open,
then
you
may
want
to
go
into
the
drive
management
under
computer
management
and
actually
give
it
a
drive
letter.
B
B
A
A
A
A
It's
cloud
so
it's
it's
color
and
and
what
you
do
is
you
know
I
have
a
p
cloud
and
I
have
another
one,
and
so
you
just
use
a
number
of
them
for
storage
at
the
free
level.
You
know
you
can
do
the
same
thing
with
your.
You
know.
Google
drive
or
one
drive,
but
I
like
the
p
cloud
and
of
course,
proton
is
going
to
have
one.
B
A
C
C
That
would
be
fantastic.
That
would
solve
one
of
my
problems
we
share.
I
have
a
one
password
management
that
I
use
that's
encrypted
and
to
get
it
to
all
the
computers.
If
we
dropbox
only
lets
me
put
it
on
three
items
right
unless
I
want
to
pay
them,
and
that's
really
all
I
keep
in
dropbox
because
that's
critical
those
passwords,
but
the
p
cloud
would
do
that
and
we
could
pick
it
up
on
windows
and
linux
and
apple
we'd
be
in
heaven,
give
it
a
try.
I.
C
B
And
I
I
learned,
I
guess
the
hard
way
that
dropbox
shadow
copies
the
files
that
you
that
you
load
to
dropbox.
So
if
you
say
well,
I'm
going
to
offload
my
computer
with
physical
files
and
upload
them
to
dropbox,
there's
a
shadow
copy
on
your
computer
of
what's
on
dropbox
that
it
it
keeps
synchronized.
B
So
you
may
not
see
it
and
if
you've
actually
installed
the
dropbox
app
on
your
desktop
of
your
windows
computer
when
you
double
click
on
it.
What
you're
actually
looking
at
is
the
shadow
copy.
That's
on
your
computer
and
if
you
add
something
or
delete
something
it
then
synchronizes
and
changes
it
so
that
it's
online
and
it
didn't
free
up
space.
When
I
tried
to
do
that,
so
I
just
said:
no,
I'm
yeah,
I'm
not
going.
C
B
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
coming.
I
hope
it
was
productive.
There
was
a
lot
of
dead
space
in
there,
but
I
think
all
of
us,
including
me,
learned
a
few
things,
because
I
didn't
find
exactly
what
I
expected
to
find
based
on
prior
experience
of
using
some
of
these
techniques,
but
we
worked
around
them,
they're
all
recorded.