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From YouTube: City of Chandler Planning & Zoning Meeting 09/20/23
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City of Chandler Planning & Zoning Meeting 09/20/23
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Course
so
before
this
meeting
we
had
a
study
session
and
reviewed
some
reviewed.
The
items
that
are
on
here
I
did
we
have
a
lot
of
speaker
cards
for
item
number
six,
so
that
will
be
heard
as
a
action
item
for
tonight
after
we
go
through
the
consent
agenda,
the
first
actually,
the
first
order
next
order.
Business
is
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance,
but
I
just
want
to
make
people
aware
of
that
commissioner
Morgan
you're
going
to
lead
us.
Please.
D
B
Thank
you,
sir
appreciate
that
so
on
item
number
two
I
do
have
two
speaker
cards
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
let
the
speakers
talk
on
that
item
and
then,
if
there's
questions
from
staff
requirement
questions
from
the
commission.
If
we
need
to
go
further
and
possibly
pull
it
for
Action
we'll
do
that,
but
so
I
believe
I
only
have
two
speaker
cards
for
this
and
first
one
is
Bruce
I.
Believe
it's
Wallach
thank.
F
B
You
want
to
come
up
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
You'll
have
three
minutes
service.
I'll
talk
about
on
this
item.
G
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Bruce
wallig
I'm
at
396,
West
Desert
Broom
drive
I'm
in
Avalon,
just
west
of
calypso
for
the
Chandler
Farms
just
here
to
let
you
know
that
we
appreciate
the
builders
willingness
to
listen
to
our
feedback
at
the
neighborhood
meetings
that
they
held,
and
especially
the
lowering
from
the
four-story
height
down
to
three
stories.
G
With
that
being
said,
we
do
have
a
potential
for
guessing
around
another
thousand
residents,
moving
in
just
north
of
another
thousand
resident
apartment
of
live
Avenida,
and
there
is
that
walking
path
that
you
guys
were
talking
about
in
the
disc
study
session
earlier.
That
is
partly
of
Avenida
part
portello,
heart
Avalon,
they're,
all
separately
maintained
and
paid
for
for
maintenance,
playground,
equipment,
vandalism.
We
we
pay
for
all
that.
G
So
with
that
being
said,
it
was
it
had
the
vision
in
the
maybe
late
90s
early
2000s,
to
be
a
big
giant
retail
district
with
restaurants
and
whatnot
correct.
You
were
part
of
that
original
plan.
None
of
that's
come
to
fruition
and
now
we're
just.
We
have
Apartments
single
family
homes,
single
family
homes,
single
family
homes
and
now
the
applicants
second
massive
apartment.
G
Four
thousand
dollars
new
tarps,
ten
thousand
dollars,
and
if,
if
all
these
residents
have
access
to
our
amenities
that
we
pay
for
and
maintain,
then
it
should
be
equal
share
or
we
should
just
put
it
back
to
a
you
know.
This
is
a
pretty
unique
neighborhood.
There's
nothing
else
like
this,
that
I've
kind
of
I
don't
know.
G
I
was
talking
to
Elisa
about
this
earlier,
it's
a
very
weird
situation,
so
the
people
they're
using
the
walk-in
path
is
amenity,
Parks
and
Recreation,
but
every
area
is
either
portelo
Avalon
or
live
avenida's
private
property
with
no
shared
monetary
dues.
I'd
also
like
to
add
that
live
avenida's
Apartments
have
key
fobs,
so
they
can
trespass
technically
it's
trespassing
right
on
our
HOA
Properties
or
common
areas,
but
we
can't
use
any
of
their
amenities.
G
Like
EV
Chargers
pools
dog
park
Etc,
so
we're
requesting
and
I've
gathered
about
45
signatures
from
Avalon
we're
requesting
at
the
wall.
If
you
closed
off
with
a
permanent
solution
and,
however,
that
process
looks
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
Chandler
Farms
being
built
because
I
understand
this
is
a
city
council
action
from
like
2007
that
created
that
walking
path.
So
we
just
wanted
to
get
that
on
record
and
appreciate
everybody,
and
thank
you
for.
B
H
Robert
stye
3120
South
Dakota
place
I
live
in
Hamilton
Heights
been
a
resident
there
for
approximately
10
years.
I
was
I'm.
A
former
president
of
the
HOA
I've
also
served
on
the
general
plan
citizen
advisory
committee
here
for
the
City
Chandler
and
the
sustainability
committee
back
in
2009.
H
I
do
I
do
oppose
the
development
I.
You
know
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
First,
the
density
of
the
housing.
The
current
plan
shows
about
23
units
per
acre,
that's
about
20
percent
higher
than
what
live
avienda
is
there
are
about
20
units
per
acre.
Other
averages
are
right
around
that
18
to
20,
so
I
think
the
density
is
a
little
too
high.
The
area
there
currently
has
two
major
multi-family
complexes:
the
live
avianda
and
the
Camden
Chandler
Apartments.
H
So
we're
always
seeing
major
density
and
and
more
traffic
I
know.
The
traffic
studies
do
show
that
there's
minimal
impacts,
north
and
south
on
Arizona,
Avenue
and
east
and
west
on
Queen
Creek
from
a
through
Point,
that's
okay,
but
when
you
start
making
left-hand
turns
from
live
avienda
or
the
Chandler
Farms
property
making
that
left.
So
you
can
go
north
on
Arizona
Avenue.
It's
going
to
become
very
congested,
especially
with
Hamilton
Heights
school,
so
I
request.
H
Additional
traffic
studies
are
are
done
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
any
incidents
or
at
least
minimize
the
the
flow
of
traffic
Hamilton
Heights,
the
main
entrances
and
exits
are
on
Queen
Creek
Road,
so
the
potential
backup
on
traffic
could
impact
our
entrance
and
exit
into
Hamilton
Heights,
so
I
am
opposed.
H
Although
I
know
we
live
in
a
world
where
you
don't
always
get
what
you
want
and
I
understand
that
a
lot
of
times
things
go
through
so
I'm,
also
making
a
few
requests
and
I
first
of
all,
I
do
want
to
thank
Mill
Creek
residential
Brendan
Ray
they've
been
very,
very
good
about
reaching
out
to
the
community
at
Hamilton,
Heights
and
listening
to
our
concerns,
so
I
I
thank
them
for
that
from
a
traffic
impact.
H
If
we
could
put
a
dedicated
right
hand,
turn
lane
going
into
the
new
apartment
complex
that
may
alleviate
some
traffic
backups
along
queen
Queen
Creek
Road,
also
the
from
a
construction
standpoint.
My
understanding
is
that
the
construction
will
take
about
two
years
when
I'm
not
standing
up
here.
I'm.
The
vice
president
of
a
division
for
a
national
engineering,
firm,
I,
understand
construction,
I,
understand
the
impacts,
especially
when
it
comes
to
being
a
good
good.
Neighbor
I
would
ask
that
the
general
contractor
Mill
Creek
residential
at
least
do
some
proactive
planning
with
with
the
HOA.
H
So
we
can
understand
utility
tie-ins
when
traffic
lanes
are
being
closed
down
things
that
just
make
our
lives
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
easier
so
again,
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
consideration.
I
One
question
it
might
not
be
for
the
speaker,
but
I,
think
there
was
a
deceleration
Lane
on
a
Queen
Creek
Road
in
correct.
B
I
will
ask
I'll,
ask
Stephanie
correct
so,
okay,
any
other
questions.
Thank
you
appreciate
it
to
staff.
Do
you
want
to
address
a
couple
of
things,
one,
the
the
detailing?
Let's
start
with
that,
is
there
a
decent
line
on
this
property
on
Queen
Creek.
J
From
the
the
first
proposed
new
driveway
entrance
into
the
property
along
or
close
to
that
West
property
line,
it's
a
continuous
D
cell
line
I
mean.
B
J
Yes,
they
have
reviewed
not
only
the
traffic
analysis,
but
also
on
the
proposal
as
far
as
those
proposed
locations
of
those
driveways
and
they
have
approved
as
as
submitted.
B
B
Yeah
all
right,
I
think
that
would
then
the
third
thing
is
and
I
guess
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicant
this
question.
So
thank
you,
Alyssa
Mr
Ray.
Can
you
just
address
a
couple
things?
One
was
the
the
coordination
with
the
neighborhood
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
You
know
we
we
do
that
with
other
things.
Where
there's
a
phone
number.
Somebody
can
call
at
least
know
that
you
know
specimens
when
the
road's
getting
cut
up
or
Lanes
getting.
You
know
go
away
for
a
couple
months.
K
Chair
members
of
the
commission,
Brendan
rake
in
50
North
Central
here
on
behalf
of
Mill
Creek
residential.
Yes,
as
we
were
visiting
in
the
back
with
Mr
stye,
we
did
he
did
raise.
That
comment
to
us
and
I
was
visiting
with
a
representative
Mill
Creek,
and
it
is
not
a
problem
for
us
to
coordinate
with
the
Hamilton
Heights
HOA.
Let
them
know
construction
activities,
timing
and
when
things
are
going
to
take
place.
Okay,.
B
And
could
you
also
just
quickly
and
this
one?
Maybe
you
have
to
go
to
council
the
the
path,
my
understanding,
that
this
path
was
designed
and
improved
by
Council
back
in
07,
one
of
the
many
Irish
relations
of
the
thing.
Can
you
address
that
at
all
I
mean.
K
Yeah
through
the
chair
members
of
the
commission,
as
you
were,
briefed
in
your
study
session,
there's
a
long
history
of
the
path.
From
our
perspective,
we
understand
that
pedestrian
connection
is
always
important
throughout
developments,
even
regardless
of
what
the
end
use
might
be.
Obviously,
this
path
has
been
something
that
has
been
imposed:
I,
probably
I,
would
guess
by
stipulation
other
developments
as
they
haven't
come
online,
including
live
Avenida
and
so
the
rest
of
this
path
and
if
I
needed
to
pull
up
a
slide,
I
could
do
that.
K
But
the
path
is
running
along
our
western
side.
We
it's
not
gated,
as
it
runs
through
our
property,
I
believe,
as
was
discussed
during
the
study
session,
the
gates
exist
kind
of
on
live
avenida's
property,
both
on
what
I'll
call
the
north
east
and
kind
of
Southwest.
As
you
look
at
it
and
his
staff
prepared-
and
let
me
see
if
I
can
get
a
slide
up
so
people
kind
of
know
where
I'm
talking
about
bear
with
me.
One.
B
K
Members
of
the
commission-
hopefully
you
can
we.
K
What
you
will
see
is
that
the
green
represents
the
path
but
at
if
I
can
make
it
go.
This
is,
and
that's
a
really
Thin
Red
Line
I'll,
try
to
make
it
so
everyone
can
see
it.
That
is,
the
path
continues
North
up
to
Queen
Creek
Road,
but
there
is
no
gate
that
would
prevent
any
access
through
there
as
you
get
to
the
South.
The
only
gate
that
is
on
that
South
Side
is
on
the
live
side.
K
L
Opens
so
just
to
clarify
so
I
mean
you'll,
put,
like
you
say,
you're
going
to
put
a
a
fence
or
property
line
gate
along
the
two
property,
exactly
right
there:
okay,
there's
the
dog
part.
So
where
that
walkway
from
the
circle
going,
what
would
be
Northeast
I?
Guess
you're
not
intending
just
to
have
that
as
an
Open
Access
through.
K
B
Would
it
be
better
for
us?
If
we
move
this
forward
to
let
Council
you
between
now
and
Council,
you
guys
figure
out
whether
that
is
required.
Based
on
that
ordinance
or
could
be
changed.
You
know,
I,
don't
want
to
make
a
bunch
of
motions
tonight
and
take
the
path
out.
Take
the
path
in
or
whatever,
if
there
was
ordinance
is
set
up
back
when
that
that
path
was
going
to
exist,.
M
Chairman
Commissioners,
it's
a
it's
a
good
question
and
we've
last
couple
weeks,
I've
honestly
been
starting
to
really
wrestle
with
if
the
the
final
leg
of
it
on
the
subject
site
is
not
completed
the
commission's
action
tonight
and
then
ultimately,
council's
action
will
be
only
upon
the
subject
property
that
action
doesn't
have
the
authority
to
require
to
go
on
a
private
property
and
do
other
things.
M
So
if
Council
elects
to
not
continue
that
path
and
not
not
move
it
forward,
there's
still
that
that
leg,
that's
on
live
Avenida,
avenida's
property
that
we'll
need
to
deal
with
simply
making
it
go
away.
I
don't
know,
since
we
have
since
Council
started
with
Dobson
Crossing
and
then
Avalon
and
kind
of
kept
kept
going
forward.
M
But
there
are
approved
development
plans
that
show
this
that
I,
don't
I,
haven't
really
I,
haven't
really
got
it
totally
formulated
in
my
head
of
how
do
we
make
that
go
away
since
it
was
a
public
process
and
ultimately,
a
public
body
that
adopted
that
plan?
Does
it
have
to
go
back
through
that
process?
M
If,
if
it's
to
pull
it
all
out
and
turn
it
revert
it
back
to
just
solely
private
property,
so
for
tonight's
purpose,
make
the
recommendation
as
commission
seeds
fit
on
the
leg
that
is
on
the
subject:
site's
property,
whatever
happens
with
that?
If,
if
the
council
ultimately
approves
it
by
making
it
go
away,
we'll
have
to
figure
out
how
we
work
with
the
neighborhoods
and
even
live
to
to
fix
it
and
rectify
that
yeah.
But
I
don't
have
an
answer
at
the
moment.
Okay,.
B
E
B
L
B
There
has
not
gone
away
it's
there
unless
the
HOAs
want
to
decide
on
their
own,
but
if,
if
the
ordinance
was
that
we're
gonna,
have
this
walking
path
so
and
I'll
leave
it
up
to
commission
as
well,
but
I
think
we're
probably
better
off
if
we
decide
to
approve
this
item
is
to
let
count
you
guys
can
work
with
get
to
before
it
gets
the
council
figure
it
out
and
then
go
from
there.
Chairman.
M
Probably
the
best
path
forward
tonight
is
that,
as
a
body
decide
whether
your
recommendation
is
to
complete
the
final
leg
of
this
kind
of
I
would
say
Regional
but
kind
of
sort
of
regional
neighborhood
path
or
because
the
the
anticipation
of
what
that
path
is
leading
to
has
changed
so
drastically.
It's
no
longer
needed,
therefore,
don't
complete
it.
That's
probably
the
best
path
forward
make
the
recommendation
one
way
or
the
other
we've
got
some
mechanics
behind
scenes
to
figure
out.
B
You
any
other
questions
on
this
to
understand.
Okay
to
the
audience,
I
was
like
we're
gonna.
Do
one
motion
on
the
consent
items
which
is
item
number
two
Chandler
Farms
item
number
three,
which
is
the
office
rezoning,
the
use
permit
for
The
Distillery
the
use
permit
for
Good
Time,
Charlie's
and,
like
I,
said
we'll,
do
a
full
hearing
on
on
Highway
cell
tower.
So
does
anybody
want
to
make
any
other
comments
on
any
of
those
items
in
the
audience?
L
M
B
L
The
motion
maker,
do
you
I,
agree
to
add
the
addendums
consent
line
or
the.
B
Opposed
any
abstentions,
okay
motion
carries
thank
you
to
the
people
for
that
item
and
like
us,
for
those
items
we're
recommending
by
the
city
council
and
on
item
number
two,
the
Chandler
Farms,
as
you
heard
I,
think
we'll
let
staff
work
a
little
bit
with
Council
to
figure
out
the
payoff
situation
and
legalities
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So,
okay
item
number
six.
N
All
right:
can
you
guys
see
that
yep
perfect
all
right
good
evening,
Planning
and
Zoning
commission?
This
is
a
presentation
on
plh23-0020.
It's
a
highway
cell
tower.
N
Or
no
back
action
so
just
for
a
kind
of
broader
view,
so
you
have
in
the
middle
Circle
in
red.
That
is
where
the
proposed
cell
tower
is
it's
going
to
be
in
the
middle
of
in
the
middle
of
the
golf
course
immediately
adjacent
to
a
existing
like
Maintenance
building
so
and
then
here's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
zoom
down
zoomed
in
image
once
again,
circled
in
red,
is
the
proposed
cell
cell
tower
and
then
to
the
left
of
that.
N
That
kind
of
dark
black
outline
is
the
maintenance
yard
and
then
just
west
of
that
or
left
of
that
is
the
existing
single-family
residential.
N
So
historically,
the
city
channel
has
a
precedence
of
requiring
a
160
foot
setback
from
Residential
Properties.
So
just
here,
so
you
can
see.
On
the
west
side
there
is
a
proposed
setback
of
160
feet
on
the
south.
There's
a
proposed
setback
of
about
313
feet
and
on
the
East
there
is
a
setback
of
239
feet
and
on
the
North
there's
approximately
800
feet,
which
is
the
clubhouse,
is
a
closest
point
of
contact
to
the
north.
N
Here's
a
proposal
before
you.
It
is
a
new
vertical
verticality.
It
is
a
stealth
monopine
and
it
would
be
65
feet
to
the
top
of
the
antenna.
The
city
of
Chandler.
We
always
measure
the
height
to
the
top
of
the
antenna
so
and
then
the
height
to
the
top
of
the
leaf
or
fronds
and
lightning
rod.
Would
it
be
about
69
feet.
N
N
N
So,
there's
first
few
is
approximately
700
feet:
North
Northeast
of
the
proposed
Tower.
So
it's
almost
kind
of
the
view
from
the
golf
course
from
the
clubhouse.
N
And
then
this
is
another
view
east
of
the
proposed
Tower
and,
of
course,
it's
a
one
Circle
in
red
just
for
context.
The
smaller
image
is
kind
of
showing
how
it
looks
currently
and
larger
image
is
showing
what
it
would
look
like
with
the
mono
Pine.
N
N
And,
lastly,
here's
another
photo
simulation
Northwest
of
the
proposed
Tower
a
little
bit
of
backstory
a
little
City
Review
guidelines,
so
the
code
per
code
facilities
must
be
self
stealth,
and
in
this
situation
it
is
a
stealth
facility.
It
is
a
mono
Pine,
so
it
meets
code
requirements
there.
N
Next
one,
it's
a
historic
president
precedence
it's
not
code,
but
it's
a
precedence
that
we
have
within
the
city
of
Chandler.
Is
that
there's
a
minimum
separation
of
160
feet
from
Residential
Properties
to
any
proposed
cell
sites?
So
for
this
one
to
the
closest
property,
it
is
at
160
feet
and
that
is
a
property
located
to
the
west
of
the
subject
site
and
then,
lastly,
the
another
historic
precedence.
It's
not
code,
but
we
do
ask
this
when
application
does
come,
that
does
come
in
that
maximum
height
of
the
facility
be
65
feet.
N
The
Proposal
is
at
65
feet
and
just
for
a
little
bit
about
sorry,
just
for
a
little
bit
of
background,
the
Federal
Communication
Commission
or
the
FCC
does
supersede
what
the
city
can
review.
So
it
does
prohibit
cities
from
denying
the
wireless
communication
facility
due
to
concerns
regarding
health
effects
of
wireless
radio
frequency
signal,
neighborhood
Outreach.
N
The
request
was
noticed
in
accordance
with
zoning
code,
two
neighborhood
meetings
were
held,
one
was
held
in
person
on
July
26th,
with
104
people
in
attendance
and
one
on
July
27th,
which
was
virtual
with
29
people
in
attendance
and
notification,
but
was
posted
on
Nextdoor
and
on
site,
and
as
of
today,
staff
is
aware
of
support
and
opposition
to
the
request.
N
N
Neighborhood
input,
so
here
we
have
a
little
map
kind
of
showing
in
the
blue.
We
show
the
neighbors
that
were
in
opposition
and
in
the
yellow
we
show
the
neighbors
that
were
in
support.
Originally,
there
was
28
verified
homeowners
in
opposition
to
the
request
and
94
verified
homeowners
and
support.
Currently
so
since
right
in
front
of
you
guys
have
an
addendum
memo
with
more
emails
of
residents
and
support
and
opposition
to
the
request.
So
as
of
today,
what
we
have
is.
N
We
have
29
verified
homeowners
in
opposition
and
98
verified
homeowners
and
support
staff
recommendation.
The
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
general
plan
it
is
compatible
with
surrounding
land
uses.
It
is
consistent
with
the
Press,
with
precedence
and
planning
staff
recommends
approval
with
conditions
and
the
sun
staff
presentation
and
is
available
for
questions.
Question
questions.
B
The
160
feet
to
the
West
is
so
is
that
with
the
club
it's
behind
the
clubhouse,
though
so
it's
the
club,
you
have
the
the
monopine,
then
the
clubhouse
or
not
the
club,
maintenance
shirt,
sorry,
maintenance,
shirt
and
okay,
so
that
does
block
it.
This,
the
other
question
I
had
is
the
trees.
You
show
some
existing
trees,
pretty
mature
a
lot
of
times.
What
we've,
when
we've
had
these
cell
towers,
we
try
to
add
extra
trees
if
necessary.
B
N
So
there
are
currently
oh,
let
me
see
if
I
can
go
to
prospective
views
no
too
far,
so
they're,
currently
art
trees
on
site,
so
there's
a
good
bunch
of
them
that
are
on
site
right
now.
That
would
assist
in
screening
that
are
pretty
mature
in
size.
If
a
commission
would
like
additional
trees,
we
can
make
that
a
condition
of
approval
if
needed,.
N
A
good
question
I
believe
you
know
we
can
probably
work
with
the
applicant
and
see
if
that
is
a
possibility.
I
do
not
see
an
issue
why
that
would
not
be
possible
okay,
but
we
can
control
that
okay,
any.
B
O
Hello,
my
name
is
Michael.
Powers
I
represent
the
app
the
applicant
Atlas
Tower,
one
LLC
3002
Bluff
Street,
Boulder
Colorado,
but
I'm,
not
the
only
person.
That's
here,
there's
also
three
other
professionals
representing
Verizon,
there's
Michael,
a
Gallagher
Tracy
Klein
and
Stephen
Kennedy,
and
they
both
also
or
they
all
have
Specialties
in
in
different
things.
That
will
allow
the
audience
and
and
the
commission
to
have
specific
questions
answered
with
the
best
person
for
the
question.
O
So
I'll
just
do
a
quick
filling
in
the
Gap
staff
presentation
was
fantastic.
We've
been
working
on
this
with
with
staff
for
quite
a
while
and,
and
it
took
some
work
to
be
able
to
provide
you
a
an
application
that
meets
your
your
code
and
your
consistent
precedent
for
other.
Other
structures
like
this
I
wanted
to
note
that
Atlas
Tower
would
be
the
owner
and
operator
and
maintainer
of
this
facility
and
Verizon,
and
perhaps
other
carriers
that
might
install
equipment
would
be
sub
tenants
to
them.
O
So
when
it
comes
to
issues
going
into
the
future,
if
it
is
approved
and
built,
Atlas
Tower
would
generally
be
your
your
number
one
go-to
to
make
sure
that
this
facility
is
run
professionally
and
clean
and
and
any
issues
that
come
up
would
be
addressed
directly
to
us.
But
obviously
the
nature
of
this
business
is
there.
Is
this
other
company
Verizon?
Currently
that's
a
partner
in
this
in
this
Enterprise?
O
Another
comment
I
wanted
to
make
quickly.
Just
to
reiterate,
your
planning
staff
mentioned
that
there
is
a
preemption
issue
with
Congress
is
delegation
to
FCC
to
do
basically
totally
controlled
the
the
the
safety
of
the
the
manufacturer,
the
the
the
the
distribution,
the
installation
and
operation
of
wireless
equipment
and
therefore
any
questions
about
or
any
concerns.
O
Sorry,
any
decision
made
based
on
any
conversation
about
that
would
be
precluded
and
and
probably
wouldn't
which
sort
of
money
the
record
as
we
move
forward,
possibly
to
any
appeal
if
that
happened.
But
I
expect
that
conversation
to
happen,
and
we
do
have
some
professionals
specifically
Stephen
Kennedy's-
has
a
short
presentation
on
on
safety
that
perhaps
the
commission
or
the
audience
might
might
be
interested
in
I'll.
Stop
there,
but
I
just
want
to
highlight
again:
we
we
are
presenting
a
very
what
I
would
call
clean
application.
O
O
I
could
talk
on
and
on
about
safety
and
First
Responders,
but
you're,
a
very
sophisticated
body
and
I'm
sure
you
know
know
that's
an
issue,
but
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
we
worked
hard
to
get
this
to
this
point
and
I
hope
you
approve
it.
It's
good
for
the
community
and
it's
illegal
use
in
this
area
and
it's
going
to
be
a
benefit.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
B
B
B
A
N
All
right,
so
we
do
show
an
exhibit
here,
so
the
the
one
here
circled
in
red,
that
is
post
facility
and
the
other
closest
facility
I
haven't
measured
it,
but
we
have
a
couple.
We
have
this
one
right
over
here,
just
north
of.
B
Okay,
okay,
so
not
super
close
and
depends
on
who
the
carrier
is
as
well.
One
more
question
for
the
applicant
I
mentioned
trees
and
maybe
adding
some
additional
trees.
Is
that
a
big
issue
for
you
guys,
if
you
need
to
add
a
few
more
pine
trees.
O
Not
for
us
I'd
be
happy
to
do
any
additional
vegetation
that
okay
Council.
B
B
It
okay,
so
I'm
gonna,
go
to
the
audience
and
I've
got
a
lot
of
speaker
cards
and
I'll.
Read
your
name
off,
I
hope,
I,
don't
butcher
it
too
bad,
and
if
you'd
like
to
come
up
and
speak
great,
if
you
don't
all
you
have
to
do
is
say
whether
you're
I
haven't
checked
off
whether
you're
in
support
of
the
item
and
stuff.
So
start
this
off
Michael
Reed,
this
isn't
support.
Do
you
wish
to
speak.
B
If
you
want
to
speak,
come
on
up
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
just
for
for
the
audience,
if
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
wants
to
speak,
that's
fine,
we'll
be
here
as
long
as
it
takes,
but
try
not
to
repeat
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
too
and
stuff.
So
if
you
can
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
that'd
be
great
Michael.
F
Reed
1909
East,
Glen,
Eagle
Drive,
that's
from
that
address,
is
all
the
way
south
in
Chandler,
so
right,
along
on
the
highway
and
up
until
about
three
years
ago,
we
we
were
with
Verizon
actually
for
over
20
years.
We
use
a
mobile
hotspot
because
we
moved
around
a
bit
and
up
until
about
three
years
ago
it
was
fine,
but
in
recent
years
it
just
started
deteriorating
and
it's
just
gotten
worse
and
worse.
F
We
we
finally
changed
from
them
to
another
provider
when
they
advertise
the
5G
that
worked
for
a
little
bit,
but
with.
D
F
I
was
on
the
phone
with
a
technician
there
and
at
the
end
of
that
conversation
he
said,
I
recommend
you
return
it
because
that
wasn't
working
and
currently
we're
getting
by
with
hardwired
internet
on
our
Wi-Fi
router
in
the
house,
we
piggyback
the
cell
phone
on
the
on
the
Wi-Fi,
which
works
pretty
good
except
almost
every
day.
There's
some
dropped
call
Sunday.
My
wife's
phone
wouldn't
work.
She
used
mine
on
Monday,
she
was
elsewhere
in
Chandler,
tried
calling
in
it.
F
It
picked
up,
but
she
couldn't
hear
me
and
I
could
go
on,
but
I
did
have
a
requirement
to
call
9-1-1
about
three
months
ago
my
wife
fell
in
in
the
garage
and
actually
broke
her
leg.
I
took
three
tries,
so
I
I
got
to
9-1-1
the
call,
dropped
and
I
think
they
called
me
back
as
I
recall
about
three
months
ago,
but
it
took
three
tries
to
complete
the
communication
and
it's
just
not
going
to
get
any
better
with
people
going
to
streaming
and
all
the
things
we
hear
about.
F
B
You
very
much
all
right
appreciate
it.
Next
person
I
have
is
Tony
Leonard
is
in
favor.
Do
you
want
to
speak?
Okay,
that's
fine,
you're
you're,
but
you're
in
support.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
Next
person,
I
have
Patrice
Patricia
kics.
B
B
P
I'm
going
to
find
it
at
1569,
East
Spyglass
Drive
I
sent
email
when
there
was
debate
about
the
cell
tower
starting
and
we've
been
in
sunburn
about
nine
and
a
half
years
most
of
our
kids
and
family
live
outside
in
States
all
over
the
U.S.
Most
of
the
time
our
calls
are
dropped
or
we
have
to
call
back
to
each
other.
P
On
July,
19th
I
had
some
heart
issues
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
and
so
I
went
to
call
9-1-1
I
had
to
call
three
times
before
I
got
to
them
and
the
ambulance
came
and
I
was
hospitalized.
So
it
was
very
scary
and
it
really
kind
of
had
health
concerns
about
that.
So
I
just
think
it's
needed
very
much
needed
for
connection
and
for
the
safety
of
our
community.
P
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
you're
in
support
too
and
I'm
hoping
to
improve
connectivity
and
use
Verizon
wireless
router
for
internet
okay,
Dean
Tucker
you're
in
support
you're
on
wish
to
speak.
That's
fine!
Okay!
Thank
you!
B
Lisa
I!
Believe
it's
onyx!
B
B
Okay,
thank
you,
please
allow
the
cell
tower
replaced
in
Sunbird
I
need
better
self-service
in
my
area.
Okay,
what
did
we
do
20
years
ago
we
didn't
have
cell
phones,
we.
B
I'll
tell
you
that,
so
that's
for
sure,
let's
see:
gudron
Huffman,
okay,
okay!
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
Linda
Knutson!
B
Okay!
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
good
for
the
community
need
better
cell
service.
Okay,
Patrick,
Leach,
okay,
you
wish
to
speak.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
B
B
Okay,
don't
want
to
talk.
Okay,
I
totally
support
Tower
installation
at
Sunbird.
Thank
you,
Dave
White
support.
Do
you
wish
to
talk?
Okay?
Okay,
thank
you.
Lack
of
reliable
cell
service
by
Hunt
Highway,
okay,
Gary
Pope,
Pope
popovska.
P
B
And
you're
in
support.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
Suzanne
popca
I
presume
you're
in
support.
Okay,
all
right
just
checking
to
make
sure
family
family
Harmony
don't
want
to
get
in
trouble
tonight.
Okay,
I
watch,
my
wife
watches
these,
so
I'll
get
in
trouble.
I
get
scrutinized
when
I
get
home,
Lauren
Wallace
in
support.
You
want
to
speak.
B
Okay,
great
need
better
service,
especially
for
9-1-1,
Barb,
Wallace,
okay,
okay,
one,
better
service;
okay,
moving
right,
Renee
semen:
you
like
to
talk
come
on
up
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Q
So
this
happened
two
or
three
weeks
after
that,
let's
say,
and
it's
on
Torrey
Pines
in
an
area
where
there's
smaller,
the
Villas
and
I
saw
a
door
ripped
off
a
house
and
it
was
kind
of
just
hanging
in
there
and
I'm
like
okay,
we'll
see
something
say
something
so
I
called
the
guard
shack,
which
opens
I.
Think
at
six,
the
guy
kept
repeatedly
saying:
you're
breaking
up
I
can't
hear
you
you're
breaking
up
and
that's
at
the
almost
the
front
of
of
it.
Q
So
I'm
real
concerned
about
the
safety
I
have
to
be
on
Wi-Fi
calling
at
home
and
even
then
I
do
lose.
Some
calls
mainly
to
my
mom.
So
it
could
be
her
phone,
but
I
Wi-Fi
calling
is
necessary.
The
the
other
thing
that
I
guess
I
find
to
be.
You
know
incredible
out
here,
where
I'm
seeing
over
15
Chandler
schools
have
cell
phones
right
on
the
premises
or
Towers.
So
with
that
many
Towers
on
I'm,
not
understanding
I,
guess
that's
why
FCC
said
there
were
no
safety
reasons
to
be
concerned
about
I.
Q
Also
think
the
new
casino
which
is
not
far
from
us
is
going
to
bring
a
lot
more
traffic
on
Hunt
Highway
and
have
effect
for
the
people
farther
in
the
back
and
so
I
think
that
that's
that's
about
it
and
as
the
Verizon
and
the
other
services
actually
add
Internet
is
that
going
to
be
pulling
from
cell
services
I,
don't
know
how
that
works,
but
Verizon,
T-Mobile,
ATT,
all
have
internet
services
offered
through
their
cell
phones
and
I
would
be
concerned
that
that
would
have
additional
pull
and
we
have
an
aging
population.
Q
B
R
Be
great
Gary,
Hall,
6361,
South,
Sawgrass
Drive.
Very
briefly,
it's
just
rare
that
very
rare
that
there's
a
project
in
which
there's
a
win-win-win
for
everybody
concerned
the
community,
the
Sunbird
Community.
It's
going
to
enhance
our
community,
the
senior
citizens
that
live
there,
they're
going
to
feel
a
little
bit
more
secure
in
their
ability
to
communicate,
and
then
the
golf
course
there
will
be
revenue
generated
which
is
going
to
help
with
the
future
of
the
golf
course.
Thank
you
thank.
B
And
r-o-l-l-I-n-es,
maybe
you're
not
here
anymore,
okay,
she's
in
support
of
the
project,
can
I
think
it's
cross.
B
B
I
will
I,
it
says
I'm
in
favor
of
the
cell
tower
project
and
would
like
to
know
if
the
city
denies
this
proposed
cell
Terror.
What
action
would
be
taken
to
enhance
our
cellular
service
in
sunburn?
Okay,
thanks
Ed
and
the
last
speaker
card
right
now,
I
have
is
Michael
via
LL.
B
E
B
B
Okay,
does
the
applicant
want
to
come
up
and
address
anything
I
think
it
was
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
stuff,
so
okay,
I
have
somebody
in
the
back
room
with
their
hand
up
if
you'd
like
to
come
on
up
here.
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
anything
anybody
else:
okay,
I'm
gonna
close
the
floor.
Then
commissioner,
Lopez.
L
So,
just
some
of
the
questions
that
the
apple
or
the
the
residents
had
that
the
applicant
come
up
one
of
the
engineers
they
do
talk
about
more.
You
know,
bandwidth
travel
along
the
roadways
on
cellular
towers,
I,
don't
know
how
that
works.
You
know
different
from
other
aspects
of
Internet
receptions
that
kind
of
stuff,
so,
as
more
residents
were
to
you,
either
do
convert
streaming
or
the
residents
bring
in
more
cell
or
sell
usage.
L
How
does
that
change
the
capacity
of
the
Tower,
and
would
the
residents
see
an
immediate
Improvement
to
their
Communications?
Okay.
S
Stephen
Kennedy
11142
Northwest,
165th,
Drive,
Suite
343
in
Surprise
radio
frequency
engineer
with
34
years
experience
so
two
things
that
happen
with
sites
when
some
complaints
about
slow
throughput
and
then
about
the
inability
to
connect
and
have
a
good
call.
It's
coverage
versus
capacity.
So
this
site,
that's
to
the
Northwest
on
this
current
map,
to
the
northwest
of
where
the
red
circle
is
that's
the
site,
that's
over
capacity
right
now.
Capacity
is
a
way
to
look
at,
let's
say:
you're
you're
drinking
from
a
water
hose
in
your
backyard.
S
S
So
capacity
is
the
ability
to
process
that
data
traffic
or
those
calls
and
throughput
by
allowing
the
proposed
to
be
built,
you're
going
to
increase
the
capacity
area
because
you're,
adding
more
equipment
to
be
able
to
to
process
that
traffic
from
either
people
South
close
to
Highway
or
people
up
north
and
you're,
as
well
as
offload
traffic
that
currently
the
site
to
the
Northwest
is
over
capacity,
there's
not
very
much
bandwidth
per
user.
So
you'll
one
you'll
increase
coverage
within
the
area
more
in
building
service.
S
So
if
911
calls
occur
inside,
they
can
actually
happen
and
it's
not
having
to
try
back
three
times
as
well
as
the
building
process,
where
they're
streaming
data
or
somebody
wants
home-based
internet
the
frequencies
that,
in
the
spectrum
that
this
site's
going
to
have
when
it
comes
on
air.
S
Talking
with
the
Verizon
Irish
engineer,
it's
substantial
we're
probably
talking
300
megahertz
of
bandwidth,
which
is
quite
large
compared
to
when
I
started
the
business,
and
there
was
10
megahertz
of
bandwidth
way
back
when
you
put
your
car,
your
phone
in
the
trunk
of
a
car.
So
this
will
definitely
help
by
adding
additional
radio
capacity.
B
Any
other
questions.
Okay,
thank
you,
sir
appreciate
it.
My
only
com,
I
have
a
couple
comments.
You
know
there's,
so
the
cell
towers
have
always
been
a
controversial
kind
of
thing,
but
we
all
live
in
you
know,
and
unfortunately
they
use
the
word
Dive
by
not
having
a
proper
cell
phone
calling
9-1-1.
We
actually
had
problems
with
our
Police
Department
back
in
the
day
down
south.
So
you
know
the
only
comment
I'd
like
to
do.
B
If
whoever
wants
to
make
it
much
I'd
like
to
see
some
additional
trees
put
in
as
a
stipulation
work
with
staff
figure
that
out
but
other
than
I'm
supported
this
project
I
think
it's
it's
needed.
B
The
more
bandwidth
and
the
internet's
so
important.
Everybody
and
safety
is
probably
the
number
one
issue
when
people
can't
call
out-
and
you
know
an
extra
minute
or
two
makes
a
big
big
difference
in
terms
of
being
able
to
take
care
of
somebody.
So
anyway,
do
I
have
a
any
motion
from
the
commission.
I
I
moved
to
approve
use,
permit
plh230020,
Honda
highway
cell
tower
subject
to
the
stipulation
by
staff
and
if
the
applicant
can
work
with
staff
to
add
trees
to
help
screen.
Okay.
B
L
Okay,
let
me
just
a
comment,
because
you
know
there
was
one
or
two
people
or
maybe
interfere.
We
got
some
emails
to
an
opposition
to
this
I
do
want
to
as
often
sometimes
these
discussions
happen
that
even
if
you're
those
that
were
opposed
that
may
not
spoken
up.
We
do
hear
that.
Still
again,
we
hear
both
sides
and
again
this
is
going
to
go
before
the
council
and
mayor
and
and
they
do
listen
to
both
sides.
L
B
We
are
recommending
bodies,
so
they
make
the
final
decision,
but
okay,
any
other
comments.
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
K
B
M
Just
really
quickly,
chair
I
know
it's
been
a
long
day
and
I
wanted
to
kind
of
just
thank
the
commission,
it's
kind
of
like
for
those
of
us
that
have
served
on
an
HOA
board.
It's
like
the
definition
of
a
thankless
job
and
quite
often
as
a
pz
board
member
you're
not
going
to
get
a
a
lot
of
thanks.
So
Steph
really
did
appreciate
the
dialogue
we
had
today
was
extremely
helpful.