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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group Meeting July 26, 2023
Description
Meeting summary is here: https://chaoss.discourse.group/t/chaoss-dei-working-group-meeting-summary-july-26-2023/219
Meeting minutes are here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MzDk84BL7FfHDxbFxJz39M72V2Hfc5Y6oCPhOl6woxo/edit#heading=h.8x0rlbxl0per
A
B
Thank
you,
everyone.
It's
Wednesday,
July,
26th
and
you're
here
at
the
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
working
group
for
chaos,
I'm
Elizabeth
good,
to
see
you
everywhere,
yay
such
a
happy
good
faces.
I
love
it
just
a
quick
reminder.
This
meeting
is
for
us
to
discuss
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
topics
in
chaos.
So
it
could
be
something
internal
to
chaos.
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It
could
be
a
metric,
it
could
be
something
external
and
this
is
really
kind
of
the
place
where
all
of
those
conversations
happen
and
as
all
chaos
meetings,
we
are
under
the
chaos
code
of
conduct.
So
keep
that
in
mind,
as
you
interact
with
us
here,
you
are
more
than
welcome
to
keep
your
cameras
on
off.
Whatever
makes
you
feel
comfortable,
that's
what
we're
going
with,
and
you
are
more
than
welcome
to
just
interact
with
us
on
the
chat
on
the
side.
B
B
So
if
you
haven't
added
your
name
and
you
would
like
to
you
certainly
can,
if
you
need
those
that
link
again,
Matt
will
be
happy
to
drop
that
in
the
chat
again.
Just
let
us
know
how
you're
doing
looks
like
a
lot
of
people
are:
are
hot
Maria's
just
having
struggles
with
chess?
That's
all
right,
but
you'll
get
them
next
time.
Maria
I
know
it.
B
B
There
are
some
outstanding
issues
that
I
linked
here.
The
first
one
is
this
inclusive
naming
checklist.
We
had
talked
about
doing
a
review
internally
about
our
own
documentation
and
our
own,
just
our
own
work
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
any
of
these
problematic
terms
in
our
stuff
I
think
we
had
had
one
or
two
people
express
interest,
but
I
don't
know
that
movement
has
been
made
on
that
in
a
while.
So
I
was
just
gonna,
bring
it
up
again.
If
someone
has
interest
in
this
and
capacity
to.
B
This
I
think,
if
I
remember
and
someone
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
I
believe
that
Delight
was
going
to
be
working
on
this,
but
I
have
not
talked
to
him.
So
I
don't
know
if
he
has
made
progress.
I
feel
like
there
was
a
checklist
somewhere
that
he
was
going
through,
like
just
a
list
of
all
our
docs,
so
I
kind
of
wanted
to
throw
it
back
out
at
the
group.
I
know,
delight's
been
super
busy.
Do.
A
So
you
are
excuse
me,
you
are
correct.
There
had
been
interest
earlier,
but
I
don't
think
progress
had
been
made,
at
least
not
that
I've
seen
so
I
think
the
the
task
is
meant
to
be
fairly
straightforward,
just
in
the
sense
of
taking
a
look
across
our
website.
Page
actually,
I
could
just
honestly
I
think
it
could
be
us,
as
we
decided
really
just
a
search
in
the
GitHub
repositories,
because
most
of
our
web
pages
are
pulled
from
the
GitHub
repository.
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B
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A
B
B
F
D
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B
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C
G
F
A
D
B
H
D
A
B
A
B
D
B
A
D
H
F
I
think
that's!
Okay,
though
I
think
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
in
some
of
the
other
and
some
of
the
other
meetings
about
we
only.
We
really
only
want
to
be
defining
metrics
that
people
are
using
or
people
have
a
desire
to
use.
So,
if
there's,
if
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
interest
in
moving
them
forward,
I
think
we
just
we
wait
until
there
is
that
that
may
be
an
indicator
that
the
neck
that.
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A
A
B
B
G
B
Next
on
the
agenda
is
our
onboarding
course,
if
you,
this
is
something
that
we
are
developing
currently
just
very,
very
early
in
the
process
super
early.
So
if
this
is
something
that
is
interesting
to
you
and
you
want
to
join
that
team
or
help
with
that
project,
you
can
join
this
education
channel
on
slack
and
high
level.
B
One
who's
going
to
focus
on
the
content
and
structure
and
second,
is
going
to
focus
on
the
technology
and
the
platform.
So
if
you
go
to
that
channel,
we've
also
linked
to
the
doc
which
I
can
actually
find
where
we're
just.
We
have
just
like
a
doc,
a
working
dock
where
we're
just
kind
of
dumping
ideas
right
now,
and
that
is
bookmarked
in
that
slack
Channel.
B
B
Yeah
we
named
education
instead
of
like
onboarding,
specifically
because
we
are
thinking
about
other
things
that
we
can
help
educate
folks
on.
So
it's
not
maybe
just
onboarding
to
chaos,
but
also
like
ears
about
open
source
you're
about
and
we've
even
talked
this
morning.
Here's
a
tutorial
on
how
to
get
started
with
python.
You
know
like
like
it
could
build
out
into
like
a
big
place
for
folks
to
go
and
we're
not
talking
about
Reinventing
the
wheel
on
a
lot
of
this.
B
G
B
B
B
B
Really
hoping
that
we
get
some
newcomers
to
help
us
with
this,
because
newcomers
have
the
best
experience
of
a
newcomer
knowing
what
they
don't
know
so
yeah.
We
would
love
it
if
you're
new
to
chaos,
and
you
want
to
help
sort
out
what
things
would
be
helpful
to
you.
As
a
newcomer,
we
would
absolutely
love
that
I
had
just
dropped
in
our
conversation
from
that
one
meeting
where
we
talked
about
a
lot
I,
just
literally
copied
and
pasted,
so
it
can
be
cleaned
up.
B
B
B
A
B
B
Good,
a
good
shout
out
and
just
kind
of
speaks
to
the
dedication
of
our
whole
community
and
making
this
a
welcoming
and
inclusive
place.
So
thank
you.
I
about
cried,
I
might
cry
right
now,
I,
don't
know
it
just
really
struck
me
because
it
was
completely
unprompted
and
yeah.
It
was
really
awesome.
So
thank
you,
everybody
for
being
just
wonderful
folks
and
spreading
the
love
and
being
inclusive
to
everybody
who
comes
to
to
chaos.
D
I
B
When
you
see
something
that
is
a
problem
and
then
like
one
and
done
and
like
one
and
done
is
not
really
helpful
and
but
being
consistent
and
just
continuing
to
build
those
relationships
with
folks,
either
in
or
out
of
of
troubled
times,
just
really
being
consistent
in
the
way
that
you
build
that
trust.
So
those
were
just
some
things
that
I
thought
were
super
interesting
I
wanted
to
just
bring
to
this
group
of
what
I
learned
next
week.
B
I
believe
I
think
it's
next
week,
I'm
also
going
to
be
doing
a
bystander
intervention
training
with
the
same
folks,
so
I
will
also
bring
those
learnings
back,
because
sometimes
we
might
see
things
and
we
just
don't
know
what
to
do
in
those
situations.
So
I'm
hopeful
that
that
will
be
helpful.
Just
you
know
like,
as
our
community
grows,
I
just
feel
like.
There
is
just
more
potential
for
things
to
happen,
because
people
are
complicated
and
so
I.
If
that's
okay,
I'll
just
bring
it
back
to
this
group
as
well.
Yeah.
G
E
I
I
I
Honestly,
there
was
I
understand
chaos.
Now
the
explanation
that
was
giving
is
not
hard
to
put
it
wasn't
too
clear
right
on
because
they
kept
on
talking
about
Community,
Health
and
I
get
to
know
that
okay,
so
it's
not
just
about
it's,
not
actually
about
health
health,
it's
it's
more
about
inclusion,
diversity
and
well
for
lack
of
a
better
with
the
healthiness
of
the
community.
I
When
it
comes
to
open
software
right
and
I
felt,
it
would
be
really
helpful
if
maybe
some
illustrations
were
given
and
when
it
comes
to
like
when
I
Google
chaos.
The
first
thing
I
see
the
website
I
go
to
the
kind
of
explanation.
That's
given
because
it's
still
I've
just
done
it
I've
gone
the
end.
I
still
get
the
impression
that
I
still
have
something
to
do
a
lot
with
medical
health.
I,
don't
know
I
mean
medical
is
not
open.
I
It's
not
put
there,
but
when
you
come
to
like
the
medical
confidence
in
community
health,
there's
actually
a
whole
subject
or
topic
that
is
community
health,
so
my
mind
goes
there
I,
don't
know.
If
you
get
me
so
I
thought
it
was
actually
the
application
of
Open
Source
to
community
health,
which
has
to
do
with
something
along
the
lines
of
Public,
Health
yeah,
but
I
mean
I
came
in
and
even
though
it
wasn't
exactly
what
I
was
looking
for.
I
actually
like
the
group,
so
I
actually
still
stayed
in
and
enjoyed
yeah.
I
So
so
I
think
it
will
be
very
helpful
if
it's
maybe
clearer
on
that
and
then,
if
they
are,
maybe
maybe
just
like
a
little
explanation
on
the
fact
that,
like
the
actual
work
that
you
do
because
it
talks
about
analytics
and
I'm
thinking,
okay,
I
analyzing,
maybe
prevalences
of
diseases
I
analyzed,
then
how
the
health
of
you
know:
IIT
professionals,
what
exactly
are
you
analyzing
talks
about
metrics?
What's
metrics
what
parameters
are
looking
at
like
I
I
couldn't
really
get
that
sense.
I
E
It
is
not
that
chaos
is
not
clear.
It
is
just
because
the
conception
was
really
from
the
from
a
foundational
point
from
people
who
understand
software
and
the
community.
From
that
perspective,
that
I
totally
agree
with
you
that
it
could
bring
this
kind
of
ambiguity
which
it's
something
that
they
could
easily
clarify
with
some
few
tweets
of
what,
but
that
indications
you
really
pointed
out.
We
have
already
encountered
it
even
from
people
from
within,
so
it's
not
something
new
and
I,
think
What
Elizabeth
is
doing
and
every
other
Community
member.
E
B
D
F
E
B
Know,
and
so
that
was
really
really
helpful.
Thank
you.
We
will
add
an
extra
sentence
in
there
and
hopefully
that
will
help
in
the
interest
of
time.
I
know
we
want
to
get
to
badging,
so
I'm
gonna
jump
ahead,
so
I
know
we
have
folks
on
here
who
are
interested
in
talking
about
the
project
badging
in
particular
quickly
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
new
event
Badgers
who
have
signed
up.
We
had
just
had
a
an
initiate
orientation
last
week,
so
thank
you
to
our
new
Badgers.
B
We
have
a
whole
a
few
group,
a
new
group
of
folks
as
well.
So
just
thank
you
to
them
and
then,
let's
get
on
to
project
badging,
so
Ria
I
know
you
had
had
some
questions
about
that
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
just
want
to
ask
the
questions
or
if
you
want
to
like
how
do
you,
how
do
you
want
to
proceed?
I'll
leave
it
up
to
you.
Thank.
C
C
A
Yeah
sure
so
the
the
dei.md
file
is
meant
to
to
be
potentially
used
across
any
variety
of
Open
Source
projects.
So
the
description
that
we
have
here,
those
are
ones
that
we
we
wrote
ourselves
so
like
they
may
have
kind
of
a
chaos
and
we
might
want
to
re
rewrite
those
a
little
bit
to
be
because
these
are
just
these
are
just
ideal.
A
You
know
what
I
mean
this
is
these
are
just
sample
descriptions,
and
so
maybe
rewriting
these
a
little
bit
with
people
who
are
not
in
the
chaos
project
could
be
helpful
just
to
help
and
I
get
projects
who
are
more
coding,
oriented
or
just
extremely
Cody,
oriented,
better
ways
to
think
about
how
they
are
addressing
example,
project
access
or
communication
transparency.
So
maybe
that
would
be
a
helpful
place
to
start.
C
C
A
Totally
fair,
so
that's
a
that's
a
great
Point.
Do
you
have
thoughts
on
how
we
could
maybe
connect
with
a
few
folks
that
could
help
us,
if
not
rewrite
some
of
these
examples
you
know
provide
like
F,
G
H.
You
know
what
I
mean
these
are.
These
are
just
meant
to
be
examples,
so
they're
not
meant
to
be
like
things
you
must
do
in
your
project,
but
we
could
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
C
About
doing
badging
is
the
badging
simply
that
you
have
a
dei.md
file
and
it
could
be
a
completely
empty
file.
Apparently
saying
hey
we're
interested
in
deimd.
You
can
put
a
pull
request
for
things
in
here,
or
are
there
specific
things
that
are
necessary
in
order
to
achieve
that
to
be
able
to
label
yourself
as
a
Dei
friendly
project.
A
The
intent,
the
intention
is
not
just
to
have
an
empty
dei.md
file
we
figured
as
much
but
but
to
have
a
project
reflect
on,
say,
for
example,
communication,
transparency
and
just
talk
openly
in
that
file
about
how
they,
as
a
project,
try
to
promote
or
do
promote
transparency
in
the
communication
they
have.
So
in
the
decisions
that
they're
making
within
the
project
and
how
they're
sharing
that
publicly
with
everybody,
I
think
the
the
in
this
example.
A
What
had
come
up
often
is
that
sometimes
you
know
strategic
decisions
are
made
just
by
two
people
in
a
private
slack
Channel,
and
that
may
not
be
helpful
for
a
project.
So
just
how
the
project
is
continuing.
In
this
example
to
address
communication
transparency,
it
could
honestly
be
in
any
way
that
is
pertinent
to
that
project
again.
These
are
just
examples
same
with
newcomer
experiences.
So
how
is
a
project
working
to
attend
to
the
experiences
of
newcomers,
people
wanting
just
to
join
the
project
and
start
participating?
A
So
again,
it
could
be
in
a
variety
of
different
ways.
We
don't
particularly
care
what
those
variety
of
ways
are
like.
We
don't
look
at
that
list
and
say
this
is
a
great
way
to
do
it,
or
this
is
a
poor
way
to
do
it.
We're
just
looking
at
the
project
provides
some
narrative
around
these
four
metrics
as
to
how
they're
addressing
them
within
them.
A
You
know
just
like
just
made
up
weird
text,
but
it
actually
has
some
coherency
to
it
and
that's
really
it
and
then
the
evaluation
of
that
text
is
really
done
by
community
members,
because
we
can't
we
don't
we're
not
in
a
position
to
do
an
evaluation
of
whether
or
not
it's
true
or
not
true,
but
the
evaluation
would
come
from
community
members,
so
there
would
be
a
sharing
process
that
we
encourage.
You
know
if
you
are
a
project
in
your.
D
A
C
C
Think
so
that
I
I
want
to
think
about
ways
to
cast
this,
but
I
I
think
the
the
major
things
are.
We
want
a
file
that
includes
project
access
with
examples
that
would
be
relevant
to
in
actual
coding
projects,
as
opposed
to
say
a
focus
group
like
chaos
or
Dei
or
whatever,
and
you
want
project
access,
communication,
transparency,
newcomers
and
an
inclusive
leadership
section
and
examples
of
what
that
would
look
like
in
an
actual
open
source
project
and
I.
Think
some
of
that
might
be.
Do
you
post
your
roadmap?
A
B
And
Ria,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
just
propose
some
things
before
you
actually
submit
the
pr
to
you,
know
change
it.
You're
you're
welcome
to
also
take
this
and
put
it
in
a
Google
doc
that
we
can
work
on
informally.
Here,
if
that's
easier,
as
opposed
to
you
know
like
these,
are
the
changes
I
want
to
make
kind
of
a
thing
so.
C
So
absolutely
so
I
want
to
think
about
it
a
little
bit
more,
and
this
is
not
really
my
main
line
specifically
but
I
work
with
a
lot
of
people
who
it
is
their
main
line.
So
I
think
this
would
be
an
interesting
exploration
to
have
just
because
a
it
will
Foster
this
Communications
internally,
which
is
a
good
thing
anyway,
help
add
some
additional
ideas
to
this
overall
thing.
Are
you
thinking
about
doing
something
like
the
open
ssf
has,
with
their
best
practices
for
security
badge
where
you
actually
go
through
a
template,
and
you
provide
check.
C
C
A
G
Go
ahead,
Sean,
yeah
I
know
that's
an
interesting
process,
I've
been
through
it
and
it
it.
You
know
it
combines
attestations
with
scanning
where
it
can,
and
so
it's
it
is
interesting
as
a
sort
of
it's
a
it's
a
different
approach
that
we've
tried
to
match
than
we've
envisioned
here
to
Matt's
point,
though,.
C
G
A
G
It's
an
incubation
it's
becoming
closer.
We
continue
to
work
with
both
both
my
team
and
Chaos
Africa,
we're
continuing
to
iterate
on
the
website
and
the
badging
process,
Enoch
Kingsley
and
the
rest
of
the
chaos.
Africa
team
have
done
a
great
deal
of
work
on
the
website
side,
and
it's
very
beautiful.
G
G
G
No
yeah,
you
don't
have
to
go
all
the
way.
I,
just
I
think
it's
a
really
good
design
and
when
you
go
through
the
badging
process,
there's
a
couple
of
flow
things
that
Kingsley
and
precious-
and
you
might
forget
some
names
here-
maybe
Rick
knows
them
all.
Are
gonna
gonna
update
for
us
that
we
and
we
just
reviewed
those
in
a
call
right
before
this
one.
So.
G
H
B
Think
they're
everywhere
anyway,
Ria
to
your
point.
We
are
also
in
so.
If
you
have
projects
in
your
group
that
want
to
start
building
out
their
own
dei.md
file,
we
can
potentially
run
them
through
to
help
us
test
and
build
this
out
from
the
very
beginning,
because
we
we're
that's
we're
just
super
early
on
so
yeah.
C
A
C
D
H
C
E
G
A
separate
project
that
we're
collaborating
very
closely
with
and
I
I
think
I,
don't
really
know
the
total
reason,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
it
is
just
clarity
about
purpose,
because
there
are
a
number
of
repos
for
all
in
open
source
and
they
have
a
purpose
that
is
very
closely
aligned
with
chaos.
But
it's
also
a
the
work
is
separate.
So
that's
why.
G
I,
don't
know
how
to
answer
that,
but
I
would
I
think
I
know
Sarah's
on
the
call.
My
answer
would
be
that
they're
led
by
GitHub
and
GitHub
Microsoft
is
part
of
the
Linux
foundation
so
and
the
Linux
Foundation
has
actually
collaborated
very
closely
with
all
in
open
source
over
the
last
more
than
two
years
now,.
A
B
B
H
H
That
was
all
correct,
I'd
be
happy
to
connect
with
you
on
the
all-in
program
and
how
it
came
to
fruition
and
the
Partnerships
that
we
have
had
with
chaos
and
some
other
teams.
You
can
also
check
our
site
just
dropped
it
in
the
slot
to
just
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
the
program.
What
we've
been
building
over
the
last
couple
years
and
actually
would
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
more
about
it
as
well.