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A
Typically,
very
cool
all
right,
so
thanks
you
should
have
the
agenda
in
front
of
you.
I
think
there's
a
couple
things
that
are
at
the
top
that
I
deadlines
at
the
time
april:
30th
yeah
and
then
I
wanted
to
get
yas's
thing
up
there
about
standardizing
reposters,
because
yeah
poryasha's
work
is
always
at
the
end
of
our
meeting
agenda
and.
A
Out
of
time,
so
why
don't
we
start
with
the
all
things
open
and
oss
eu
osseu
oss
seattle,
submission
document
that
we
have
here.
So
I
think
the
submissions
at
this
point
are
going
to
be
focused
on
the
dei
event,
badging
initiative
that
we've
been
doing
and
having
amazing
success
with
so
for
cherise.
We
have
a
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing.
Is
we've
been
developing
dei
metrics
and
getting
dei
metrics
deployed
and
having
a
positive
impact
can
be,
can
have?
Can
it's
just
questions?
A
A
A
Right
on,
I
don't
know
if
I
mentioned
this
last
time,
but
when
we
were
doing
a
podcast
with
this
was
last
week's
podcast
about
the
program.
We
were
talking
to
some
folks
at
the
lf
events
team
and
it
feels
like
the
intention
is
to
have
all
of
the
lf
events
go
through
this
process,
plus
ancillary
events
as
well,
so
so
yay
and
also
you
know
we're
gonna.
A
It's
the
same,
like
volume
question
that
we
have
consistently
so
just
just
for
people
to
kind
of
note,
that's
awesome,
but
it's
also
just
kind
of
a
reviewer
question
that
we
have
in
terms
of
kind
of
scaling
up
the
available
reviewers
all
right.
So
the
link
for
the
submission
is:
is
there
why
don't
we
head
on
over?
There.
A
D
They
have
no
specific
requirements
for
length
that
I
could
find
when
I
went
to
when
I
I
went
through
like
half
the
application
process
to
finally
get
to
the
word
count
and
everything,
and
they
don't
have
any
specific
things
about
what
number
of
words,
but
they
do
have
like
describe
your
project
in
a
way
that
we
can
understand
it
and
all
this
like
kind
of
nebulous
stuff.
But
this
is
the
conclusion
we
came
to
based
on
that
description
of
like
what
you're
supposed
to
put
in
okay.
D
They
say
the
more
you
describe
it,
the
better
chance
you
have
of
like
the
the
more
easily
you
can
read
it
the
description,
the
easier
chance
it
has
to
get
in
as
an
as
a
like
a
speaker
thing,
so
clarity,
the
clarity
matters
most.
I
think.
C
E
E
That's
interesting,
yeah
cause.
I
could
break
up
a
little
preview
in
the
agenda,
but
it
doesn't
want
to
pop
up
and
open
the
actual
thing.
I
don't
know
why.
Maybe
because
I
have
a
hundred
tabs
open
could
be.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
really
love
this
new
feature.
So
if
you
there's
the
a
new
dock
feature,
oh
wait.
I
found
the
copy.
A
A
E
C
E
I
mean
making
the
assumption
that
they're
going
to
be
live
in
dublin,
which
we're
all
hoping
for.
Will
you
be
able
to
go
for
just
a
lightning
talk?
If
not,
then
I
would
say
push
to
make
it
a
full
one.
F
I
mean
for
80
for
oh
and
osseu
yeah
ati
was
like.
Is
it
an
adjacent
event
like
right
before
oss
eu.
D
B
I
think
a
photographer
also
like
do
justice
to
the
presentation
you
know
or
show
out
some
of
the
submissions
we've
had
and
badges
we've
always
done.
A
Sure
yeah,
so
if
ato
is
virtual,
maybe
we
can
just
keep
it
with
this.
What
we
have
here
and
clearly
we'll
have
more
time
to
yeah,
rework
a
longer
submission
like.
C
E
G
E
D
Ato,
their
save
the
date
website,
page
says
relay
and
october
17th
to
the
19th.
D
Yeah
hoping
to
be.
B
I
looked
at
I
looked
at
it
today,
so
there's
I
didn't
see
the
option
for
a
lightning
talk,
but
there
was
an
option:
a
15
minutes
option
for
there's
already
described
the
talk,
there's
a
particular
description,
something
like
a
short
form
of
a
45
minutes
presentation
there's
a
particular.
B
So
they
have
that
option.
Then
it's
like
they
do
not
have
a
lightning
talk
option
for
that
15
minutes
option
and
then
a
full
session
and
our
keynote
and
workshop
so
yeah.
E
A
D
B
Okay,
so
I
think
I
looked
through
that
also
and
the
different
questions.
There
were
okay,
talk,
title
the
abstract
right
and
there
was
no
limits
for
the
abstract
and
then
speaker
each.
You
have
to
speak
up
by
you
and,
if
you're
adding
like
a
second
speaker
right-
and
I
think
they
did
not
ask
about
the-
there-
was
no
question
about
audience
right,
as
of
other
conference-
really
acts,
okay,
what
is
expected
of
the
audience?
Or
what
do
you
expect
the
audience
to
know
before
this
talk?
C
B
Yeah,
if
you're
adding
a
second
speaker,
then
the
title
of
the
talk.
A
Okay,
ruth
do
you
plan
on
going
to
ato?
Do
you
have
any
hopes
of
getting
to
la.
B
A
D
Yeah
I'd
like
to
start
going
if
they're
in
person
I'd
like
to
start
being
able
to
go
to
ato
or
ossu
or
possibly
both.
J
I
A
I
think
cool
all
right,
we'll
see.
I
guess
I
guess
what.
C
Basically,
now
ruth
entering
into
the
competition
as
a
matter
of
check,
basically
copy
and
paste
right
on.
A
B
D
B
Just
send
you
I'll
send
you
my
details,
my
signal.
D
That's
good,
and
if
you,
if
you
send
me
your
details,
can
you
also
send
me
the
link
to
the
cfp?
I've
had
trouble
finding
yeah.
A
K
Eu
has
agreed
to
this
because
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
any
shared
border
conflicts
with
other
portions
of
the
european
union.
That's
that's
right.
C
E
G
A
L
So
everyone
we
are
looking
for
a
standard
structure
in
the
readme
files
for
each
working
group
repository
and
here's.
The
proposal
is
the
structure
proposed
structure
once
on
screen,
so
it's
almost
finalized.
I
just
have
to
take
feedback
from
two
more
working
groups
and
if
you
have
any
other
suggestions
and
feedback,
that
would
be
very
helpful.
C
A
C
After
our
after
our
community
call,
I
wonder
if
something
about
under
participate
like
are
you
new
and
some?
Ultimately,
some
reference
to
a
mentoring,
program
or
guidance
program
or
onboarding
program
for
the
project.
A
working
group.
C
A
H
A
A
They
are
yep,
and
so
what
elizabeth
had
just
put
in
the
chat?
That'll
be
open.
That's
just
a
universal
chaos
got
a
question
posted
there.
L
M
There's
a
bunch
of
different
channels,
we
can
add
whatever.
If
we
want
to
do
working
groups,
we
can
right
now
we
don't
have
that
so.
L
A
L
A
I
Or
for
context,
this
is
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
in
at
least
with
work.
We
were
trying
to
set
up
a
private
slack
server
to
a
public
like
horse
chat,
room
yeah,
how
familiar
you
are
with
matrix
or
element,
but
we
have.
The
irc
channel
we
already
have
is
set
up
with
a
matrix
room.
Matrix
has
integrations
ready
that
support
irc,
which
we
already
have
set
up
as
well
as
slack,
and
actually
I've
been
using
that
bridge
recently
that
works
really
nice.
It
actually
is
one
of
the
best
like
chat
bridges.
I
I've
I've
worked
with,
so
I
think
it's
possible
to
still
connect
the
folks
that
are
in
the
irc,
because,
like
amy
mentioned,
it's
like
there's
still
folks
that
are
there.
But
you
have
to
remember
that
everyone
has
different
platform
preferences
and
folks
that
have
been
doing
open
source
for
decades
or
many
years
are
really
familiar
with
irc,
because
that's
been
around
since
1989
and
you're
just
going
to
get
different
folks
on
different
platforms.
I
A
That'd
be
great
and
don't
we
have
a
metric
about
this.
C
We
have
a
metric
that
takes
slide
communication
into
account
somewhere
chat
platform
inclusivity.
Isn't
there
something
to
be
said
about
that?
No
there's!
There's
I've
been
part
of
discussing
a
metric
that
includes.
Oh,
we
have
a
metric
yeah.
I
know
I
I
just
don't
remember
what
working
group
it's
in.
A
B
A
I
Yeah
so
since
we
have
just
the
one
chaos
community
channel
in
irc,
that
could
be
like
a
community
channel
on
the
slack,
and
that
would
be
the
one
we
can
still
have
different
working
group
rooms
and
if
we
want
to
bridge
those
to
irc,
we
could
cross
that
bridge
later.
But
we
have.
We
could
start
with
just
the
one
community
room
or
something
like
that.
A
A
A
H
A
A
A
So
you
know
we
have
this
spreadsheet,
where
we
track
our
metrics
work
right,
and
so
we
have
a
couple
metrics
called
speaker,
demographics
and
attendee
demographics,
and
one
of
the
issues
was
these
are
both
so
every
metric
that
you
see,
kind
of
in
green
between
15
and
24
are
metrics
that
we
use
for
the
dei
event
badging
initiative,
so
as
events
submit
their
request
for
a
badge,
these
are
the.
These
are
the
questions
that
we
ask
right.
So
how
attentive
are
they
to
speaker,
demographics?
How
attentive
are
they
to
diversity
access
tickets?
A
Do
they
have
an
event
code
of
conduct
clearly
visible
on
the
event
page
right
and
so
the
the
when
we
were
doing
the
dei
badging,
we
were
kind
of
seeing
that
a
lot
of
the
questions
around
speaker,
demographics
and
attendee
demographics
were
quite
similar
like
how
are
you
capturing
this
information?
How
are
you
displaying
this
information
and
the
the
thought
was
last
week
that
perhaps
we
kind
of
collapsed
these
two
metrics
just
into
a
metric
called
demographics.
A
Yeah
yep,
so
then
demographics
could
be
something
that
we
could
ask
across
the
project
at
large
within
particular
areas.
So
we
could
ask
questions
then
about
speaker,
demographics.
We
could
ask
questions,
then
about
attendee
demographics.
We
could
ask
things
that
are
more
less
event
focused
and
maybe
more
project
focused
with
respect
to
demographics
as
well
so
kind
of
creating
a
higher
level
yeah
single
single
order,
metric
called
demographics.
That
could
then
be
localized
to
the
particular
area.
A
A
So
what
I
wanted
first
was
just
to
get
people's
feedback
on
this.
We
had
talked
about
it
last
week,
just
because
we
talked
about
it
last
week,
doesn't
maybe
make
it
so
so
what
are
people's
thoughts
on?
A
D
I
am,
from
my
perspective,
the
badging
project.
The
badging
initiative
has
two
different
metrics
that
ask
the
exact
same
questions
with
respect
to
both
types
of
demographics.
So
we
have
like
do.
Do
you
request
demographic
information?
Do
you
display
the
demographic
demographic
information
after
the
event
or
like
that
kind
of
thing?
We
have
we've
all
if
we've
changed
it
or
whatever,
we've
always
had
the
same
questions
for
both
speakers
and
attendees,
so
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
merge
them
to
me.
C
D
D
In
the
metric
and
then
we
can
find
out
from
the
metric
how
to
do
it
in
the
badging
project,
but
it's
really
just
like
a
matter
of
how
speakers
and
attendees
are
handled
differently.
I
think
is
small
enough
that
it
can
be
managed
in
one
metric
gotcha.
Thank
you
when
it
comes
to
demographics.
I.
C
A
A
A
Demographics,
I
I
had
proposed
just
so
at
some
point:
it's
going
to
move
out
of
events
yeah,
I
propose
just
kind
of
putting
so
that's
the
same
link
to
that
other
document.
Okay,
should
I
follow
that
now,
all
right,
I
mean
I'll
work
on
it.
I
just
wanted
to
still
just
kind
of
ensure
that
people
were
okay
with
this
switch
and
I'm
just
starting
to
build
out
the
tracking
here
in
the
spreadsheet
yeah.
D
A
D
I
think
we
have
a
large
enough
difference
between
events
and
projects,
so
we
could
have
event
demographics
and
project
demographics
personally,
because
they're
measured
in
different
ways
and
they
mean
different
things
to
each
entity.
C
You
know
I
I
don't
know,
I
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
information
gathering
that
goes
into
having
demographics,
information
for
an
event
or
a
project,
and-
and
I
think
like
I
don't
I
don't
I
mean
I
think
like
right
now,
when
you
look
at
the
the
questions
from
the
attendee
demographics.
Obviously,
like
things
like
interviews,
are
less
plausible
for
like
a
project.
A
A
Is
it
part
of
speaker
registration
like
here's,
how
you
can
collect
this
information
right
and
then
we
also
turn
around
and
with
event
demographics
say
things
like:
have
you
displayed
your
demographics
from
prior
events?
Do
you
have
a
mechanism
by
which
you
will
display
the
demographics
with
associated
with
this
event,
so
that
that
process,
I
think,
is
what
matt
is
getting
at
like
that
process
is
different
than
the
process
by
which
you
would
determine
for
a
project
for
a
project
we
may
keeping.
A
D
Yeah
because
because
events
happen,
they're
like
time
bound
and
they
they
happen
in
a
certain
period
of
time,
while
projects
are
an
ongoing
thing,
you
have
people
applying
to
events,
you
don't
necessarily
have
people
applying
to
open
source
projects.
So
it's
a
lot
different
how
you
collect
their
demographic
information.
A
H
C
A
A
Actually,
I
just
closed
it's
fine.
No!
No!
No!
It's
it's
fine,
because
I
can
just
go
back
and
well.
I
can
just
look
at
it
because
there
were
a
few
subtle
differences.
The
one
of
the
earlier
problems
with
this
metric
was
that
it
was.
It
was
asking
questions
about
demographics
and
inclusivity
right.
It
was.
J
A
A
Yeah,
so
this
would
be
more
along
the
lines
of
so
matt.
I'm
looking
at
you
again,
a
little
bit
see
ya
justin,
bye,
justin,
so
matt,
I'm
looking
at
you
a
little
bit
here
too.
We
what
happened
to
my
view
of
people.
A
D
A
So
like
like
how
the
event
is
reaching
out
to
participants
to
ensure
that
they
feel
included
yeah
in
a
variety
of
different
ways,
and
so
that
could
be.
A
I
recall,
like
prior
conversations
that
there
are
like
dei
meetups
at
the
event,
or
there
are
there's
an
explicit
attention
to
ensuring
that
dei
related
talks
are
integrated
throughout
the
conference.
D
C
H
A
Yep,
I
know
we
only
have
one
minute
to
express
concerns.
A
Cool
all
right,
all
right,
so
we
are
at
the
end
of
time.
I
heard
my
phone
tell
me
as
such
all
right.
This
is
really
helpful,
so
thank
you.
A
Really
good
thanks
josh
for
all
of
your
work
on
doing
that,
I'm
glad
you
got
to
talk
through
it
today.
I
didn't
get
pushed
so
everybody
have
a
good
week
and
we
will
see
you
around.