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CHAOSS.Diversity&Inclusion.August.26.2020
A
Meeting
so
I'm
recording
now
welcome
everyone
to
our
chaos,
diversity
and
inclusion.
Working
group
meeting
today
is
august,
26
2020
20.
A
So,
let's
see
last
week
we
were
talking
about
the
open
demographics
and
we
reached
out
to
nikki
and
we
got
a
good
response
and
I
believe
we
have
a
meeting
next
monday
so
on
monday
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
future
of
open
demographics.
B
A
B
A
B
So
we
we
reached
out
to
nikki
with
respect
to
the
open
demographics
repository,
so
this
repository
contains
a
lot
of
really
fantastic
information
about
demographics,
and
our
concern
was
is
that
the
repository
wasn't
receiving
a
lot
of
attention
recently.
So
we
were
proposing
kind
of
trying
to
work
through
a
number
of
different
ways
that
we
could
maintain
that
repository
and
keep
that
information,
update
and
updated
and
available
to
everybody.
B
So
nikki
responded
and
we
had
talked
about
possibly
moving.
Remember
this
conversation,
we've
talked
about
possibly
moving
it
to
the
chaos
project,
and
so
we
kind
of
followed
the
approach
that
came
out
of
this
meeting
last
week,
which
was
to
post
an
issue
and
kind
of
give
a
period
of
time
for
comment,
and
she
responded
very
quickly
and
the
whole.
B
Her
hope
is
to
keep
the
repository
and
all
of
the
work
where
it's
at
at
the
moment,
and
I
from
what
I
understood
the
the
big
motivating
reason
for
that
was
to
keep
it
kind
of
independent
of
a
particular
project
or
a
particular
foundation,
and
to
keep
this
work
kind
of
situated
as
to
where
it
is,
and
so
she
had
was
very
supportive
of
having
some
additional
maintainers
in
the
repository
and,
if
others
have
an
interest
in
this
as
well.
B
Absolutely
no
problem,
georg,
and
I
both
expressed
an
interest
just
because
we
were
part
of
the
issue
right,
but
if
others
have
an
interest
as
well,
please
don't
hesitate
to
speak
up,
and
so
I
think,
what's
ultimately
going
to
come
of
this
is
is
the
work
will
continue
to
remain
in
the
open
demographics
repository?
A
A
A
B
A
C
So
we
have
a
lawn
coming
up
on
september
14th
and
we
are
very
excited
for
that.
So
I
think
one
of
the
agent
items
over
here
is
need
to
recruit
reviewers.
C
I
think
that's
really
necessary
for
us,
so
we
also
added
a
small
pr
based
format
for
reviewers,
adding
their
username
to
a
particular
level
which
random
assignment
reviews.
So
the
moment
it
is
created
thanks
make
that.
C
C
C
Oh
matt
is
the
next
time
the
next
item
put
in
by
you.
I
I
don't
know
the
part
about
mustard,
all
coc
items.
B
A
A
D
B
Yeah
so
I
I
had
talked
to
matt
snell
about
that
too,
because
there
is
a
it's,
a
large
volume
of
emails
that
show
up.
I'm
not
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
to
to
think
through
that.
B
So
like,
for
example,
if
you
and
I
just
so
people
know
like
if
you
and
I,
if
justin
and
I
are
both
reviewers-
I
see
all
of
his
emails
like
his
assignment
as
a
reviewer.
He
sees
all
of
mine
as
well
and
I
think
there's
even
some
bot
traffic
that
shows
up
in
that
email
thread,
so
it
it
it's
quite
a
bit
to
work
your
way
through.
D
One
of
the
the
quick,
the
quick
fixes,
for
me
at
least,
is
since
I
think
the
bot
does
actually
tag
you
on
github.
But
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
github
organization
level
or
where
it
happened,
but
like
you're
by
default,
we
were
all
subscribed
to
watch
the
repo,
which
means
we're.
B
D
Everything
that
comes
through
unwatching
and
then
just
getting
the
bot
notifications
makes
it
a
lot
more
manageable
because
okay
and
you're
only
getting
notified
when
you're
getting
tagged.
But
I
figured
that
out
a
little
late.
So
I
haven't.
I
haven't
seen.
D
Traffic
but
okay,
that
was
one
thing
that
helped
me
was
just
like
by
default:
you're
subscribed
to
everything,
but
if
you
unsubscribe
from
the
notifications,
it
makes
it
a
little
more
manageable.
Okay,.
B
C
Oh,
like
we
just
leveled
out
what
github
is
like,
we
assign
the
reviews
to
the
reviewers
like
assign
the
issues
to
the
viewers,
so.
B
B
A
A
A
B
B
D
B
D
Things
like
changes
to
the
fedora
operating
system
that
might
be
useful
parallel
to
this
work,
but
we'll
do
test
days
where
we'll
announce
on
our
blog
and
on
social
media,
like
hey
this
day
on
this
month,
we're
going
to
have
a
test
day
for
this
new
feature
in
fedora,
and
we
have
documentation
about
here's
what
you
have
to
do
to
get
onboarded
here's
what
we
need
you
to
help
with,
and
it's
really
clearly
spelled
out
and
that's
been
a
great
opportunity
to
onboard
new
people,
because
we
a
build
up
like
an
outreach
campaign
to
those
things.
D
So
people
know
that
it's
coming
up
and
can
plan
to
be
a
part
of
it.
It
also
makes
it
too
easier
to
get
help
and
support
from
maintainers.
Usually
there's
people,
at
least
in
fedora,
will
have
like
the
qa
team.
That's
all
hands
on
deck
for
that
day
and
they're
around
to
help
answer
questions
and
help
some
of
the
newer
folks.
So
maybe
something
like
that,
like
a
badges
test
day
or
test
week,
whatever
would
make.
B
D
Could
be
a
good
way
of
really
like,
so
you
can
do
some
outreach
work
and
ahead
of
time
to
get
people
get
it
on
people's
radars
and
get
some
hype
for
it
do
so.
Maybe
cross
posting
to
other
communities
like
open
source,
diversity
or
other
places
that
might
be
of
interest
and
then
try
to
focus
the
the
new
contributors
in
that
that
time
frame,
but.
B
A
B
I
mean
matt
and
asta
have
been
at
least
for
the
pilot.
The
two
pilot
runs,
so
we've
done
two
tests
and
I
I
think
the
primary
look
was
just
internal
to
the
community,
just
seeing
if
it
was
largely
workflow.
B
C
B
Of
committed
amount
of
time
where
we
sit
down
and
we're
like
all
right,
here's
here's!
What's
going
on
here's
the
badging
program,
here's
how
it
works
from
a
workflow
perspective.
E
C
C
Okay,
so
there's
this
small
change
we
have
made
to
the
pull
request
template
like
since
we
shifted
to
issues
in
order
to
do
the
reviews,
so
we
created
the
template
to
like
get
the
reviewers
and.
C
A
A
F
I
was
just
going
to
say
one
more
quick
thing
with
regard
to
this
matt
snell
and
I
have
been
working
on
an
email
that
I
can
send
out
to
targeted
people
in
my
network
that
I
know
in
the
in
the
diversity
inclusion
network.
So
I
don't
know
we're
still
working
on
that
language.
F
A
F
So
I'll
connect
with
matt,
snell
and
just
figure
out,
because
we
had
just
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
language,
so
I'll
get
with
him
to
figure
out
what
the
plan
was
for
that
or
what
we're
doing
with
that.
A
A
B
B
B
So
this
is
as
a
reviewer.
This
is
what
you
see.
So
these
are
the.
This
is
my
checklist
of
things
as
a
reviewer.
B
B
B
You
know
we
can't
automate
this
entire
thing,
but
I
was
just
trying
to
think
through
what
are
the
things
that
we
need
so
when
I
say
that
this
first
item
of
must
hit
all
code
of
conduct
items.
B
B
B
From
a
family
friendliness
perspective-
and
this
was
based
on
the
discussions
that
I
was
having
with
gayorg
as
a
sample
submission-
I
was
like
in
the
metric
itself
in
the
family
friendliness
metric.
We
have
a
lot
of
different
things
that
an
event
could
do
to
provide
family
friendliness,
and
I
don't
think
it's
important
that
an
event
necessarily
hit
all
of
those
things,
but
we
may
want
to
make
sure
they
at
least
had
two
of
those
items
in
the
family
friendliness
metric.
C
C
C
B
B
B
There
are
a
number
of
different
items
in
this
metric
that
could
be
evident
at
an
event
so,
for
example,
offering
child
care
during
an
event,
but
it
has
been
brought
up.
Many,
maybe
small
events,
don't
really
have
the
ability
to
offer
child
care,
it's
just
not
in
the
cars
which
is
totally
understandable,
but
then
there's
other
things
like
there's
events
or
activities
at
the
event
that
are
aimed
at
youth
or
special
chef
sessions
or
evening
events
that
encourage
youth
to
attend.
So
there.
B
Things
that
an
event
could
do
even
a
small
event
to
work
towards
family
friendliness,
and
my
my
thoughts
were
that
we'd
not
only
want
to
say
yeah,
there's,
there's
an
expression
of
being
family
friendly
at
the
event.
But
I
also
want
to
know
what
you're
doing.
B
B
D
For
me
at
least
I
always
with
especially
with
the
dni
metrics,
I
always
feel
like
there
needs
to
be
a
human
touch
and
context
is
always
varying,
but
at
the
same
time
I
get
the
challenge
that
it
can
also
be
very
subjective.
So
I
don't
like
my
default.
My
default
way
is
that
I
don't
I
don't
necessarily
like
saying
you
have
to
hit
two
or
three
of
these.
B
D
A
B
A
A
A
Just
to
clarify,
are
we
saying
you
need
to
have
family
friendliness,
or
are
we
also
giving
the
option
of
saying
give
us
a
rational
for
why
your
event
does
not
provide
it.
B
B
B
B
A
A
A
B
The
way
I
was
reading
it
is
there
was
a
claim
to
be
family
friendly
and
this
claim
was
identifiable,
and
so
maybe
we
just
need
to-
or
maybe
I'm
not
quite
right,
maybe
instead
of
claims
the
event
provides
at
least
one
service.
Something
like
that.
What
would
you
think
about
that?.
C
So
matt
did
reward
the
checklist
during
the
pilot
testing.
I
just
posted
the
results
in
the
chat.
B
B
So
in
in
that
regard
as
a
reviewer,
the
way
you
had
set
up
your
event,
it
was
open
to
all
and
there
were
no
and
I
there
were
no
diversity
access
tickets
needed,
and
I
think
you
had
also
said
like
we
don't
have
the
funds
to
provide
support.
Like
you
know,
local
arrangement
support.
B
So
in
that
regard
as
a
reviewer,
I
think
I
just
said:
that's
fine,
you
don't
need
to
have
diversity
access
tickets,
if
it's
not
applicable
and
you
can
still
hit
the
gold
badge
for
your
event,
even
without
having
diversity
access
tickets.
So
the
way
that
asta
and
matt
had
worked
through
the
requirements
for
badging
the
thresholds
were
lower
because
in
in
situations
like
this,
it's
quite
possible
that
you
just
don't
provide.
B
A
Okay,
there's
some
good
comments
in
the
chat
about
addressing
this
issue,
so
it
sounds
like
to
close
this
up
of
a
language
change,
to
clarify
that
the
reviewer
actually
sees
evidence
would
be
good,
and
then
we
already
have
multiple
reviews
for
each
event,
which
was
justin's
question
to
reduce
the
subjectivity
as
well,
because
there's
at
least
two
people
looking
at
this.
A
A
B
A
B
It's
in
my
review
checklist,
so
I
I
recommend
that
we
remove
that
and
I
think
matt
had
commented,
maybe
that
that
was
totally
good
and.
C
C
Okay,
I
think
we'll
have
to
look
at
other
ways
to
express
the
checklist
items.
A
All
right
with
that,
we
have
10
minutes
left.
I
would
like
to
move
forward
on
project
burn
out
next,
and
we
can
certainly
pick
up
the
badging
conversation
again
next
week.
A
A
So
project
burn
out.
We
have
a
google
doc
for
the
last
eight
minutes
of
this
call
you
can
go
into
it
I'll
share
it
in
the
chat
as
well
and
we'd
started
working
through
it.
I'm
not
entirely
sure
it
looks
like
there
were
some
edits
between
the
meetings
or
maybe
I
just
don't
remember
the
state
that
it
was
in
last
week.
B
There
were,
there
were
a
lot
of
edits,
so
ruth
who
is
not
on
the
call
right
now.
She
and
I
had
spent
time
kind
of
trying
to
work
this
down.
Just
because
there
were
a
lot
of
comments.
They
were
all
great
comments
and
we
tried
to
not
remove
anything
and
we
just
spent
time
kind
of
getting
rid
of
duplicate
comments.
You.
D
B
C
B
Same
comment:
we
would
try
to
bring
those
together
and
so
what
you.
B
A
A
B
A
A
H
Oh
sure,
it's
kind
of
I
think
maybe
there
are
some
things
in
it.
It's
quite
a
long
report,
but
there
might
be
some
things
that
help
with
maybe
metrics
building.
It's
this
one
guy
called
john
young
chip
chase
who's.
H
An
ethnographer
and
a
designer
did
a
sort
of
long
survey
about
burnout
in
leadership
roles,
but
it's
definitely
not
open
source
sort
of
focused,
but
it
has
some
really
interesting
qualitative
stuff
and
I
started
to
poke
them
about
what
they
regard
as
leadership,
because
I
think
they're
thinking
of
leadership
in
a
businessy
sense,
whereas
I
was
coming
out
from
a
community
leadership
sense.
But
it's
a
interesting
read
and
there's
ability
to
have
kind
of
conversations
with
the
authors.
H
Young
chip
chase
is
kind
of
like
a
what's
the
best
word
to
say
kind
of
like
a
celebrity
in
the
sort
of
design
research
space.
So
he
has
a
slack
channel,
so
he
is
approachable
but
he's
kind
of
got
this
weird
kind
of
elevated
status
so
but
yeah,
I
certainly
don't
have
like
a
conversational
relationship
with
with
him.
A
A
B
B
E
To
bring
up
one
thing
that
went
back,
I
thought
it'd
be
important
to
know
to
this
group
that
the
openstack
board
is
moving
to
remove
all
divisive
language
from
our
different
projects,
and
I
think
we
might
be
the
first
foundation
doing
so.
It's
not
going
to
happen
quickly,
but
we
are
working
on
it,
so
we
may
come
back
and
ask
rewarding
we.
E
We
have
some
wording
in
mind
like
allow
and
deny
instead
of
blacklist
with
stuff
like
that,
but
I
think
we
might
have
more
groups
reaching
out,
so
it
may
be
a
good
idea
to
maybe
write
a
blog
article
or
something
on
good
language,
so
divisive
language
is
kind
of
like
blacklist
white,
whitelist
master
slave,
so
just
getting
more
updated
on
offensive,
languaging
and
being
that
elizabeth's
hair.
Now,
thank
you
for
my
email.
I
really
appreciated
it.
You're
welcome
I've,
never
thought
to
do
that
as
a
community
manager,
myself.
B
A
So
amy
on
the
on
the
divisive
language,
do
you
have
a
checklist
that
you
go
by.
E
This
just
came
up
in
a
board
meeting.
Yesterday,
I
had
kind
of
asked
rtc
on
their
irc
channel
like
months
ago.
If
that
was
something
we're
going
to
do
and
of
course
they
came
back
with
all
the
technical
challenges,
but
that
if
we
needed
it,
we
would
get
it
done
and
there
are
going
to
be
technical
challenges
with
all
the
different
projects
under
osf.
E
Each
of
the
technical
committee
type
groups
will
be
in
charge
of
their
own,
but
I
took
the
action
item
for
the
diversity
and
inclusion
working
group
to
come
up
with
our
stand,
also
being
kind
of
the
umbrella
of
going
well.
These
projects
have
chosen
these
languages.
You
know
you
really
should
use
the
same
terms.
Everyone
else
is
using
that
type
of
deal,
so
we
don't
have
a
time
frame
because
we
need
to
do
it
in
the
best
way
possible
not
to
break.
A
One
thing
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
if
you
want
to
bring
that
work
here.
I
think
there
are
others
interested
in
working
on
this
as
well,
and
maybe.
E
We
can
yeah,
of
course
we
do
have
our
because
of
labor
day
weekend
we're
going
to
move
our
september
meeting
actually
until
next
monday.
So
I
think
we're
going
to
do
it
on
meatpad.openopendem.org,
which
is
our
jitsi
channel
just
so
we
can
be
live
and
in
person,
but
do
we
have
a
dni
list
for
this
graph.
E
A
Awesome
so
I
know
we're
already
three
minutes
over
time.
Thank
you,
amy
for
adding
that
piece
of
information.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
more
next
time,
but
I
don't
want
to
keep
anyone
here
longer,
so
I'm
gonna
close
the
meeting
and
post
I'll
post
in
the
chat,
real,
quick,
the
link
to
our
chaos,
dni
mailing
list.
G
And
amy,
if
you
have
any
links
like
that,
that
would
be
great
on
in
regards
to
stuff
that
identifies
that
divisive
language,
because,
like
at
my
work,
even
occasionally,
you
know
like
me
having
the
language
ready
to
show
them
why
master
slave
is
a
bad
idea.
You
know
it's
like
very
useful.
So
if
you
have
anything
that
like
helps
with
that,
that
would
be
good
because
they
could
they
tend
to
pay
attention
to
that
more
than
they
do.
G
E
Red
hat,
I
don't
know
if
we
go
into
wording
on
there,
but
just
the
fact
why
it's
wrong
and
why
we're
changing?
That's
awesome,
yeah
a
t.
Actually,
the
person
who
brought
this
to
the
board
was
the
at
t
board
member
and
he
actually
kind
of
pasted
some
wording
from
cisco.
E
So
companies
are
doing
stuff,
they
are
working
on
it.
They
may
not
be
public
about
it.
Like
I
asked
the
working
group
member
who
is
at
atmt
if
she
knew
if
the
information
was
public-
and
she
said
she
didn't
know.
If
there
was
any
public
information,
then
when
I
went
to
the
board
mailing
list,
I
he
said
I
borrowed
this
from
cisco.
Well,
if
he
borrowed
it
already,
I
can
share
it
out
that
type
of
deal,
but
that
is
public,
and
that
is
from
red
hat
all
right.
Thank.