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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group Feb 8 2023
Description
Minutes from this meeting can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MzDk84BL7FfHDxbFxJz39M72V2Hfc5Y6oCPhOl6woxo/edit#heading=h.n3rh3l1y6dv7
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C
What's
the
word,
I
want
a
good
model
yeah
for
that,
because
it's
kind
of
the
same
thing
like
to
what
extent
is
are
the
event
organizers
doing
this
thing,
and
so
I,
just
thought
of
some
things
and
I
put
them
in
here
feel
free
to
take
them
out
and
do
whatever.
But
this
is
just
like
off
top
of
my
hips
and
things
I
thought
of.
A
B
C
B
C
B
D
D
A
Just
kind
of
as
an
update
for
you,
Josh,
really
what
Elizabeth
had
added
was
I
think
just
kind
of
applying
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
terms
of
kind
of
helping
guide
people
on
on
the
metric.
You
know
what
I
mean,
and
so
it's
just
a
set
of
points
that
are
I,
think
in
line
with
what
you
all
have
put
together,
and
so
it's
just
a
it's
just
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
information
in
the
chaos
metric
itself
is
that
right,
Elizabeth.
C
Yeah
and
then
obviously,
we
will
point
to
the
public
health
pledge
website
as
a
tool
and
I
think
you
added
that
in
there
already
Josh,
so
I
think
that
that
is
good.
I
would
really
like
to
know
your
thoughts
about
the
list
when
you
get
a
second
with
the
list
I
put
in
there
if
I'm,
if
we're
missing
something
or
if
that's
not
proper.
C
If
that's
not
accurate,
like
any
changes
you
would,
we
would
recommend
of
just
to
give
guidance
people
and
like
the
things
that
they
can
do
and
I
really
like
how
you
it
seems
like
you,
took
the
event:
accessibility
metric
as
a
kind
of
a
template
as
a
model
for
this
which
I
totally
agree
with
and
that's
kind
of
where
my
head
was
going
when
I
put
that
list
together.
So
just
some
context.
C
I
did
have
one
question
about
the
a
question
about
the
question
for
our
metric
I
know.
Traditionally,
we've
tried
to
like
make
them
super,
succinct
and
kind
of
tight,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
tighten
this
up.
If
we
are
okay
with
it,
how
it
is
like
I,
don't
have
again
super
strong
feelings
about
it,
either
way.
Just
if
we're
going
to
be
a
little
more
consistent
with
our
metrics,
we
might
want
to
tighten
that
up
a
little
foreign.
D
You
know
if
what
I'm
the
needle
I
was
attempting
to
thread
there
was
to
elicit
enough
information
from
the
respondent
so
that
the
folks
who
are
doing
reviews
could
you
know,
had
enough
to
to
go
on
because
since
there
are
so
many
sort
of
sub
categories
of
of
little
details
that
add
up
to
yeah
that
factor
in
here,
but
maybe
that's
not
maybe
there's
a
better
approach
than
shoehorning
it
all
into
the
question.
What
you
know?
What
what
would
your
instinct
to
be
here.
A
D
D
Okay,
so
maybe
maybe
at
minimum-
you
know
there's
that
that
second
part
like
how
do
prospective
attendees
or
participants
learn
about
it.
Maybe
that's
not
quite
as
pertinent
to
getting
to
the
heart
of
the
matter
and
that
can
be
safely
safely
drop,
but
the
rest
maybe
is
specificity.
We
want
to
keep
there
foreign.
C
C
C
D
A
A
Good
question:
Josh:
we
have
a
tracking
spreadsheet
that
just
kind
of
tracks,
all
of
the
metrics
that
we've
published
or
are
thinking
about,
and
so
we'll
get
that
in
there
and
then
Elizabeth
I
think
we
could
probably
go
through
the
process
of
starting
to
get
this
published
as
a
metric
and
get
it
out
for
Community
review.
Yeah.
B
C
C
C
D
D
A
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
is
as
event
organizers
apply
for
the
badge
the
review
process
is
on
GitHub,
it's
fully
public
and
fully
transparent
and
all
the
conversation
is
is
there,
so
that
was
pretty
important
for
us
that
we
are
open
and
transparent
about
people
applying,
as
well
as
people
reviewing
the
information
that
has
come
in
right
and
so
and
it's
worked
really
well.
We
we
finally
I
think
it's
taken,
maybe
a
few
years,
but
I
think
we
have
the
process
down
pretty
well.
A
A
B
A
Okay,
yeah
gotcha
Okay,
so
so
that's
I,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
point
out
that
process
Josh.
So
from
you
know,
from
your
perspective
for
the
public,
health
and
safety
badge,
is
there
a
a
process
like?
Maybe
you
could
describe
the
process
by
which
you
see
event,
organizers,
applying
and
and
awarding
the
badge
and
then
how
you
plan
on
displaying
that
badge.
D
Right
so
current,
currently
the
and
so
y'all
have
been
at
this
you'll
have
more
experience
with
with
badging
than
I.
Do
so
I
I'll
say
this,
noting
that
you
know
open
to
suggestion
here,
because
this
is
this
is
fairly
new
territory.
For
me,
what
the
current
plan
is
is
to
basically
have
event
organizers.
Do
a
self-assessment.
D
Similarly,
some
sort
of
human
review
step
before
sending
them
a
badge
that
we
would
then
add
to
the
public
health
pledge
website
and
we
don't
yet
have
Graphics
that
that
we
have
prepared
for
organizers
to
add
to
their
websites.
But
there
is
something
that
we
would
offer
them
to
to
embed
on
their
website
so
that
they
could
quickly
signal
that
information.
D
D
You
know
I
I
hadn't,
actually,
given
that
specifically
thought,
but
I
I,
there's
I
I
really
can't
imagine
a
world
in
which
I
wouldn't
prefer
it
to
be
open
and
transparent
and
just
in
full
view
of
the
public.
So
you
know
probably
we
might
even
do
similar
in
terms
of
like
well,
we've
got
a
GitHub
repo
and
so
that's
an
opportunity
to
use
that
infrastructure.
So,
okay,
exactly
we
might
copy
a
lot
of
the
process
that
y'all
got.
What.
A
A
In
terms
of
I,
think
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
is
making
sure
we
have
enough
reviewers
for
the
events
and
in
particular
in
particular,
say
if
it's
a
Linux
Foundation
like
the
events
around
open
source,
Summit,
North
America
will
end
up
getting
I.
Don't
know
you
can
tell
me
Elizabeth
and
Ruth,
but
like
15
20
events
that
apply
within
like
three
days
so
yeah,
it's
and
so
that,
and
we
have
at
least
two
reviewers
for
every
single
badge.
A
A
So
I'm
wondering
if
I
mean
if,
if
there's
any
way,
that
we
can
help
from
a
badging
or
a
badger,
as
we
call
them
here
in
chaos
from
a
badger
perspective
like
even
a
call
for
help.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
Josh
certain
like
folks
that
you're
looking
for
or
is
it
anybody
with
an
interest
to
help
with
the
reviews.
C
D
But
that's
something:
I
I
have
a
I,
have
a
weekly
call
with
a
weekly
sync
with
the
the
main
co-organizer
of
the
Pledge
Sarah
safavi
and
I
can
raise
these
raise
that
for
discussion
at
our
our
next
call
I
think
it's
going
to
be
on
Monday.
Okay,
if
there's,
if
there's
an
openness
to
sort
of
amplifying
a
call
for
for
Badgers
I
mean
my
goodness
that
would
be
and
deeply
grateful
for
that.
A
D
B
C
B
C
Was
gonna
say:
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
thought
about
your
application
itself
and
like
how
that
flow
works,
but
one
thing
we
had
considered
but
decided
not
to
do,
but
we
considered
it
was
using.
Github
has
like
a
I,
don't
know
if
it's
in
beta
or
or
what
status
it's
in
or
if
it's
released
to
the
general
public,
but
they
have
a
GitHub
forms
functionality
where
you
can
set
up
a
form
and
have
people
fill
that
out
right
on
GitHub
and
it
goes
right
into
an
issue.
D
A
Form,
you
know
what
I
mean
and
actually
award
badges
to
event.
Organizers
is
it?
Do
you
think
from
a
Dei
event,
badging
the
chaos
event
badging
perspective.
It
would
simply
be
like
when
they
apply
they
being
the
event
organizers.
They
we
ask,
you
know,
have
you
received
this
badge
and
they
simply
point
to
it's
an
indication
that
they
have
received
the
badge.
Do
you
think
that's
how
you
envision
this.
C
One
one
quick
question
about
that
in
the
meantime
like
we
can
add
it
to
our
application,
but
in
the
meantime,
until
Josh
kind
of
gets
that
whole
process
up
and
running
a
little
better.
Do
we
want
to
maybe
not
require
that
yet
for
a
gold
badge,
because
that
was
kind
of
what
we
talked
about
is
like
you
have
to
have
this
URL
if
you're
going
to
get
a
gold
badge
like
that
means
you're
up
here
and
you're
doing
everything
you
can.
So.
C
This
is
like
a
super
important
thing
and
we
had
talked
about
like
requiring
that
in
order
to
get
the
goal
badge,
even
if
everybody
got
everything
else
and
they
didn't
do
this
part,
they
would
get,
they
would
not
get
a
gold
badge.
So
like
I'm,
just
thinking
about
like
the
the
the
ramping
up
process
and
the
time,
how
do
we
want
to
handle
that.
D
D
D
A
Josh
I
had
a
question
for
you.
Would
it
is
it
possible
for
an
like
an
event
team
to
get
a
badge
from
you
for
all
events
that
are
located
in
the
same
location
and
again
I'm
thinking
about
the
Linux
Foundation?
So
they
have
a
whole
series
of
events
but
they're
always
all
located.
For
example,
at
the
Dublin
conference
center
right.
D
Yeah
you
know
thank
you
for
raising
that,
because
that's
that's
something
that
we
need
to
be
prepared
for
yeah,
so
I
I.
Imagine
and
let
me
know,
based
on
what
your
experience
has
been
I.
Imagine
we
would.
We
would
tackle
that
by
saying
like
what
are
all
the
events
that
are
co-located
that
are
under
these
same
policies
and
measures,
something
along
those.
A
A
Elizabeth
because
I
mean
we
have
when
we
get
the
15
to
20
applications
with
ossna
I
mean
they
are
really
repetitive,
simply
because
it's
the
same
services
so,
for
example,
family
friendliness.
You
know
if
there's,
for
example,
daycare
provided
on
site.
It's
provided
for
all
of
the
co-located
events
and
I'm,
just
if,
if
we,
if
we
include
the
public
health
and
safety
badge
plus
the
chaos
Dei
badge
I
also
want
to
just
be
attentive
that
we're
not
asking
event
organizers
to
do
all
the
like.
So
many
things
in
so
many
different
locations.
A
C
C
With
sorry
now
that
I
think
about
it,
there
might
be
issue
with
so
we
usually
check
on
whether
or
not
like
we
asked
them
about
their
diversity.
Demographics,
if
they're
keeping
track
of
all
of
that
and
they're
I
can
think
of
one
occasion
where,
even
though
they
were
doing
everything
right,
they
had
an
all
white
male
lineup,
and
so
we
had
to
go
back
to
them
and
just
be
like
yeah.
C
D
C
Associated
with
this
I
mean,
if
we,
if
we're
going
to
change
the
application
to
include
to
include
that
option,
that's
also
a
thing
like
that.
That's
also
going
to
take
some
work
to
change
that
application
because
of
the
way
it
flows
right
now
but-
and
you
know-
maybe
this
is
something
we
will.
We
could
collaborate
with
the
event
organizers
on,
because
I
also
want
to
make
it
easy
for
them
too.
So
in.
A
B
D
B
B
C
Have
to
make
the
change
in
a
few
different
places
and
there's
actually
another
metric
that
we
need
to
add
in
as
well
that
has
not
been
added
in,
which
is
event,
accessibility,
so
I'm
I'm
thinking.
We
can
do
it
all
at
once
and
just
like
release
that
badge
as
like.
Okay
now
run
version
like
whatever
3.0
4.0,
whatever
we're
on
so.
B
B
D
D
C
A
Okay,
perfect
all
right
great,
so
my
guess
is
that
I
mean
this
could
be
something
that
we
all
collectively
work
on
too
Josh
I
mean
if
we,
if
it
sounds
like
for
the
next
release
for
the
chaos
badging,
that
it
would
include
the
public
health
and
safety
metric
along
with
what
was
the
other
one.
You
had
mentioned.
D
C
Yeah
for
sure-
and
we
have
always
said
we
kind
of
wanted
to
make
it
more
difficult
to
get
that
gold
badge
as
we
go
along
and
we
kind
of
just
ask
for
more
things.
But
I
don't
know
if
that's
good
but
I.
You
know
I
kind
of
like
holding
them
to
a
little
bit
higher
standards
as
we
evolve
as
a
you
know:
open
source
evolves
in
general,
like
when
you
think
about
it
like
before.
We
would
just
like
it's
back
in
the
day
it
was
like.
C
A
A
C
These
changes
coming
100
agree.
I
would
definitely
give
them
a
heads
up
actually
I
think
what
I
was
kind
of
thinking
in
my
head
was
that
we
would
reach
out
and
and
start
this
event,
organizer
group
and
then
let
the
whole
group
know
hey.
These
are
the
changes
we're
going
to
be
implementing
and
also
we're
working
on
making
the
process?
Oh
there
like,
there
are
other
things
that
we
can
that
we
need
to.
C
A
D
D
What
what
does
that
look
like
on
urine
because
I'm
not
familiar
with
what
your
review?
What
your
process
is
between
review
and
and
saying?
Okay,
we've
got
something
we're,
including
in
a
new
release.
I
I
will
say
that
I'm
deeply
motivated
to
well
well,
on
the
one
hand,
I'm
excited
to
to
get
as
many
things
across
the
line
as
possible.
I'm
also
deeply
motivated
to
get
this
public
health
metric
across
the
line
on
the
sooner
side,
because
it's
such
a
such
a
present
present
issue.
A
B
C
B
D
A
B
C
Well,
and
you
know
what
and
that
being
said
like
are
there
other
Mex-
that
we
should
absolutely
require
some
level
of
attention
to
in
order
to
get
the
gold
badge?
Like
is
accessibility?
One
is
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
what
else
we
would
think
it
would
be
like
in
that,
like
you
got
to
do
this
if
you're
going
to
be
up
here,
like
you
got
to
do
these
things
at
least.
A
C
B
C
D
B
A
D
Exactly
because
they're,
you
know,
I
think
it's
really
prudent
to
keep
in
mind
that
the
astonishing
diversity
of
shapes
and
sizes
of
events,
and
so
trying
to
leave
some
room
for
like
hey.
You
know,
at
least
on
the
for
the
public
health
pledge
badging
itself.
The
way
that
we're
going
to
be
thinking
about
it
is
there
are
probably
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
need
to
to
Excel
on
at
least
one
or
two
measures
to
be
seen
as
like.
D
Okay,
this
is
a
you're
doing
a
good
job,
but
this
every
expectation
that
even
those
who
are
trying
their
very
best
are
are
going
to
get
some
efforts
made
scores
and
they
might
get
one
out
of
the
five
or
six
they
might
get.
You
know
sort
of
the
a
flunking
grade
on
that
one
category,
but
that's
still
kind
of
expected
because,
for
instance,
that
category
might
be
the
testing
one
and
smaller
events.
Just
don't
have
the
budget
to
provide
tests.
B
C
And
I
mean
I
would
just
want
them
to
even
just
go
apply
and
just
think
about
like
show
that
you're
at
least
thinking
about
this
stuff,
even
if
you
don't
have
all
the
answers
and
you
haven't
implemented
like
you're,
just
trying
like
I,
think
that's
kind
of
where
we
come.
We
come
like
our
our
approach
anyway,
is
just
like
just
how
are
you
attending
to
this?
Is
it
on
your
mind
at
all?
You
know
what
I
mean
so
yeah.
D
And
I
and
I
I
definitely
share
that
the
idea
is
is
like
what
we
want
you
to
do,
the
very
best
that
you
possibly
can,
but
the
the
goal
really
with
the
badging
is
one
to
get
organizers
thinking
about
it,
but
two
to
provide
that
information
to
prospective
participants
so
that
they
can
make
the
risk
assessment
themselves.
So
it's
like.
D
A
B
C
Yeah
Toria,
we
have
a
metric
that
we
released
around
that,
but
if
you
want
to
look
at
it
and
just
make
sure
that
we're
not
missing
something
or
there's
stuff
to
add,
that
would
be
awesome.
I,
don't
I!
Think
like
yeah
I
mean
that's
the
Google
Doc,
but
also
you
can
maybe
link
to
the
metric
on
the
website,
which
would
be
like
the
final
final
just
in
case.