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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group May 17 2023
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You can read a summary of what was discussed and continue the conversation on our Discourse thread here: https://chaoss.discourse.group/t/dei-working-group-meeting-summary-may-17-2023/138
A
The
recording,
hello,
everybody
I,
don't
know
who's
leading
this,
but
I'll
kind
of
go.
I
just
went
off
of
what
we
had
kind
of
last
week.
I
think
there
are
a
couple:
metrics
updates,
Kevin
I,
don't
know.
If
you
have
it's
been
a
couple
weeks
since
we've
met
just
because
of
ossna
last
week,
so
Kevin
I,
don't
know.
If
you
had
any
comments
on
on
this
one.
B
So
this
this
metric
is
actually
owned
by
Common
I,
don't
know
if
we
had
decided
it
doesn't
matter
where
we
do
it.
We
can
do
it
here
if,
if
you
would
like-
or
we
can
do
it
in
common,
my.
B
Work
on
it
prior
to
the
next
common
meeting-
okay,
but
I
can
we
can
certainly
take
it
here,
I
it.
It
would
make
sense
for
this
metric
to
be
kind
of
worked
on
in
in
Dei
as
a
as
a
member
of
the
Common
working
group,
I
could
probably
I
would
sign
off
on
moving
it.
C
A
B
Yeah
I
I
know
the
yeah
I
think
there
was
some
question
of
where
it
where
it
should
reside.
A
Yeah
so
so
this
is
really
about
location
of
events
and
whether
or
not
they
are
accessible.
A
A
B
A
B
And
then
the
the
rest
of
the
article
or
the
rest
of
the
metric
right
now
is
it's
primarily
the
event,
location,
metric
and
then
I've
copied
and
pasted
in
some
of
the
content
that
Elizabeth
had
created
in
the
the
previous
accessibility
metric,
so
I
really
haven't
had
a
chance
to
to
peek
through
it.
Yet,
let's.
B
A
time
here
do
we
want
to
take
some
time
and
and
edit
individually
or.
A
E
D
D
C
E
B
I
think
it's
always
in
relation
to
the
community.
So
if
it's
a
a
regional,
a
regional
event
would
be,
the
equity
of
that
would
be
would
be
determined
by
the
the
location
of
that
Regional
Community.
E
A
E
I
mean
there's
more
Regional
teams
to
run
those
Regional
ones
like
Indonesia,
just
one
there's
usually
like
one
in
Norway,
so
yeah
so
I
mean
the
hell.
It's
so
a
larger
logic
could
have
more
Regional
events.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
getting
it.
C
A
I
mean
that's
quite
possible,
I
mean
based
on
what
you
described.
It
sounds
like
open
and
for
it
does
a
pretty
nice
job
of
thinking
about
this
metric,
even
if
they're,
local
events
and
I
also
agree
with
you
that
you
know
the
resources.
The
project
has
certainly
have
a
an
impact
on
where
you
can
host
those
events.
C
B
Oh,
which
I
can
just
grab
from
the
never
mind,
I
can
grab
it
from
the
spreadsheet
yeah
I
was
gonna,
I
was
grabbing
it
from
the
website.
Spreadsheets
better
are
convenient
that
that's
there.
B
Adding
the
the
the
last
web
page
IDs
yeah,.
B
D
So
we
list
three
websites.
A
A
Yeah,
it
wouldn't
tell
you
where
a
project
is
hosting
events
globally.
Okay,
so
this
is
like
Amy
was
giving
an
example
or
even
like
what
we
do
with
chaos.
You
know
how
there's
like
gonna
be
a
chaosk
on
Africa.
There
have
been
meetups
held
in
Asia
Pacific.
We
try
to
be
in
Europe
and
North
America,
like.
C
A
Are
there
any
like
big
comments
that
people
want
to
bring
forward.
C
B
B
The
equity
part
right
and
I
think
the
the
edits
that
are
happening
here
are
pretty
pretty
clean.
A
A
A
F
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
do
an
updated
one,
because
this
is
obviously
pretty
old.
It
doesn't
really
show
anybody
in
Africa,
I.
D
C
F
A
A
Or
any
of
the
foundations,
you
know
like
yes
for
eclipse.
A
C
A
B
A
a
yearly
map
that
has
all
of
the
open
source
conferences
for
that
year
would
be
kind
of
cool
yeah.
Let's
compare
them,
compare
them
yearly.
A
A
Okay
and
then.
C
D
Just
replaced
the
old
graph
with
the
updated
one
had
the
data
that
we
want
to
see.
Okay,.
D
D
D
D
A
D
D
A
C
A
A
B
Yeah
I'll
take
I'll,
take
a
peek
through
that
I
think
the
I
think
these
edits
are
really
clean,
though
I
like
the
I,
like
the
direction.
I
think
that
question
is
very
good
and
it's
it's
inclusive
of
the
previous
metric
as.
A
Thanks
Kevin
all
right,
so
the
next
any
other
comments
on
on
that
we
hit
the
half
hour
mark.
C
A
A
C
A
Like
it's
editorial
stuff,
that
I
don't
think
requires
like
this
whole
group,
but
it's
things
like
I
think
like,
for
example,
one
of
the
references,
I
think
is
not
using.
You
know
these
points,
you
know
what
I
mean
it's
just
like
a
list
without
the
little
dots.
F
A
You
got
you
okay,
yeah
and
I.
Think
if
we're
going
to
be
putting
these
out
in
front
of
folks
as
part
of
the
badging
program,
it
would
be
nice
that
they
are
like
we
can
hold
them
basically
up
to
the
light,
and
they
they
look
the
same.
You
know
just
really
really.
We
should
do
this
for
every
metric
anyway,
but
particularly
for
these
four
yeah
and.
A
A
G
C
A
C
B
B
Now
that
the
Mars
project
is
being
retired
yep,
that
guidance
is
no
longer
applicable,
so
we
couldn't.
We
should
probably
remove
that
bullet
point
guidance
from.
A
The
you
remember.
B
When
we
did
the
when
we
were
taking
these
documents
and
converting
them
to
PDFs,
it
created
all
sorts
of
formatting
issues,
so
the
so
the
guidance
was
rather
than
using
a
bullet
point
and
then
a
a
sub
bullet
point.
We
would
create
a
header
and
then
the
bullet
points
would
be
underneath
it
I
see.
Okay,
so
I
didn't
just
I
did
just
notice
that
in
that
last
document
we
were
looking
at.
We
do
have
bullet
points
and
sub
bullet
points.
A
Wherever
it
was
oh,
like
this
one.
B
B
B
C
B
Would
I
would
say
we
could
we
could
probably
remove?
We
could
remove
that
that
guidance
from
the
template
as
well.
Okay,.
A
C
A
Come
back,
I
think
two
I
I,
don't
there's
not
much,
we
can
do
about
it,
but
I
think
one.
Maybe
two
of
the
metrics
don't
have
contributors.
D
B
We
could
we
could
pull
those
names
off
of
the
GitHub
record
and
only
include
them
if
they
are
contributors
that
have
already
added
their
names
to
the
to
some
of
these.
These
documents
like
so
we
do
have
a
core
group
that
that
exists
pretty
consistently
on
these,
so
it
would
be.
It
would
be
pretty
easy
to
sign
off
from
that
Core
Group.
A
A
A
B
You
can
add
the
in
relation
to
this.
You
can
add
the
action
item
for
me
to
take
these
four
metrics
and
I
will
move.
The
I
will
add
the
those
two
new
modules
to
each
of
these
four
metrics
as
well.
What
was
the
second
module,
so
I
believe
there's
going
to
be
a
module
at
the
top.
That
will
include
a
link
to
edit
a
document.
B
C
B
F
B
F
B
Well,
it's
yeah,
so
the
the
text
for
the
the
text
for
the
the
URL
that'll
connect
to
GitHub
will
say
something
to
the
effect
of
to
to
make
edits
to
this
document
or
to
request
edits
to
this
document.
Go
here
right
and
that'll,
that'll
that'll,
take
you
directly
to
the
GitHub
page
and
then
the
and
then
the
text
around
the
stable
URL
say
something
to
the
effect
of
you
know
to
reference
this
metric
in
your
software
or
Publications.
B
Please
use
this
stable,
URL
and
then
the
disclaimer
text
we
have
is
based
on
that's
the
data
disclaimer
right
yep.
E
B
B
B
B
We
want
to
move
stuff
around
or
change
the
wording.
Then
we
can
do
that
before
before
we
go
across
the
board.
A
Okay,
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you
yeah,
because
I
do
think
those
are
the
four
most
pressing,
at
least
at
this
moment.
Okay,
so
I
think
we
did
address
that
I
did
want
to
just
point
out
that
there
is
a
presentation
of
that.
Well,
here's
the
the
current
dei.md
file,
so
you.
A
And
if
you
have
suggestions
now
would
be
a
great
time
to
make
a
bolder
request
against
this.
This
is
residing
in
the
all-in
open
source
repository.
So
this
is
a
you
know:
partnership
with
all
in
and
Chaos
I
think
for
reasons
that
may
be
really
helpful
in
the
future.
It
would
be
better
to
have
this
in
all
in
open
source,
just
from
a
maintenance
and
from
a
deployment
perspective.
A
So
please
feel
free
to
take
a
look
here.
We've
talked
about
this
metric
or
this
metric
we've
talked
about
this
document
quite
a
bit
over
the
course
of
the
last
last
year.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
changes,
metrics
have
come,
metrics
have
gone,
and
so
anyway,
here's
where
it's
at
right
now,
okay
and
then
the
there
is
going
to
be
a
presentation
here.
It's
on
May
22nd,
it's
on
Monday
and
really
what
it
is,
is
it's
talking
about
what
the
dei.md
file
is
and
why
we
need
it.
A
So
this
will
be
a
lead-in
to
the
badging
stuff.
You
know,
as
this
is
tied
to
that,
but
I
think
the
kind
of
listening
to
folks
talk
about
what
the
presentation
could
be.
It
was
suggested
to
not
just
do
everything
all
at
once
for
some
folks
that
might
be
new.
You
know.
We've
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
this
over
the
course
of
a
year
or
so,
and
so
just
to
lay
everything
out
all
at
once.
You
know
like
here's.
The
dei.md
file
here
are
all
the
metrics
that
are
associated
with
it.
A
A
Well
folks,
yeah,
and
so
yes,
people
start
with
what
the
dei.md
file
is
and
and
why
it's
important
and
how
it
can
have
an
impact
for
your
project
full
stop
and
then
from
there.
We
can
probably
have
some
follow-up
I
don't
know.
Do
they
only
do
this
as
a
maintainer
month,
every
month
of.
F
A
So
you
might
want
to
think
about
how
we
can
continue
to
include
people
and
have
presentations
in
how
this
is
connected
to
our
bronze
level
badge
and
what
that
looks
like
and
why
that's
important
and
here
would
be
the
report
that
you
would
get
and
what
you
do
with
that
full
stop.
And
then
you
know
what
I
mean
like
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
we
probably
want
to
think
a
little
bit
about
a
plan
about
how
we
get
that
messaging
out.
A
At
least
that's
my
thought.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
comments
on
that.
D
Says
I
mean
I
think
all
in
is
going
to
handle
a
lot
of
the
messaging
right.
A
F
It's
like
you
know,
visibility
and
they
have
communication
like
large
Communications
teams
and
Outlets.
So
I
think
we
will
have
to
rely
heavily
on
them,
but
I.
F
A
Going
to
be
an
important
component
next
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
or
Elizabeth,
and
let
us
know
if
you'd
like
to
participate
in
that
yeah.
A
A
A
F
Is
so
it
is
kind
of
a
panel
discussion,
I
mean
I,
think
that
would
be
kind
of
nice
to
do,
but
I
don't.
D
Do
as
well,
yeah
I
think.
What's
that
like
like
three
to
five
slides
Max,
just
to
lay
out
the
sort
of
I,
don't
know
geography
or
space
of
what
we're
talking
about
slides
without
words
for
the
most
part,
just
to
put
context
into
the
things
that
we're
talking
about.
So
people
don't
have
to
rely
on
what
we
say
entirely,
but
also
don't
make
people
sit
through
a
long
PowerPoint.
C
F
A
The
yeah
so
and
I'm,
not
even
including
the
ones,
remember
how
we've
had
kind
of
a
different
set
over
time
so
like
I,
didn't
go
into,
for
example,
project
burnout,
which
was
originally
part
of
the
first
dei.md
file,
and
it
like
now,
it's
it
may
be,
pushed
back
to
like
silver
or
gold,
so
I
didn't
go
and
look
at
those
I.
Just
didn't
have
the
time
this
group
here
and
let
me
just
explain
why
I
thought
to
include
them
this.
A
These
are
the
folks
that
contributed
to
the
event
badging
metrics,
so
the
ones
that
we
use.
This
is
not
the
Badgers.
These
are
the
folks
that
contributed
to
the
event
badging
metrics
and
the
only
reason
I
thought
to
include
them
is
this.
Is
it's
all
part
and
parcel
to
the
same
thing?
For
me,
like
event,
badging
was
the
first
thing
that
we
did
it
really
kind
of
helped
us
think
about
our
metrics.
It
helped
us
think
about
our
badging
process.
It
helped
us
realize,
like
how
project
badging
couldn't
work.
A
The
way
that
event
badging
works.
I,
don't
know
I
just
that
was
the
only
reason
that
I
had
this
list
here
and
I'm
fine
to
not
include
it
too.
But
that
was
my
logic
and
then
the
Badgers
may
be
fair,
like
those
are
just
people
who
have
kind
of
continued
to
Foster
the
event
badging
process
that
it
also
has
to
me
helped
informed
our
project
badging
and
just
how
we
think
about
it.
F
C
F
G
If
you
do
this,
you
can
make
it
faster
and
make
it
a
shorter
statement.
If
you
do
two
columns
and
above
the
first
set
of
names
you
put
what
category
those
are
and
then
make
the
bottom
the
we
should
also
and
like
the
people
who
make
measuring
our
badging
metrics
our
Badgers
make
measuring
the
metrics
possible.
G
A
A
C
B
F
We
might
want
to
say
metrics
only
because
we're
unless
we
want
to
talk
about
the
folks
who
are
actually
working
on
the
project,
badging
software
and
website,
and
all
of
that
or
you
want
to
limit
it
to
the
metrics.
G
Second
category,
you
could
say
contributors
who
evaluated
our
all
badging
applications
or
evaluated
the
metrics
on
Magic
from
our
applicants.
C
A
B
A
G
F
G
Could
just
do
that
in
one.
The
title
be
thank
you
to
all
of
our
contributors
who
can
bet
who
contributed
to
badging,
metrics
and
yeah.
Just
have
two
column
lists
like
that.
Yeah.
E
B
B
Rid
of
the
the
metrics
in
that
line.
Just
thank
you
to
all
badging
contributors.
C
F
A
Just
kidding
I
do
this:
do
that
and
definitely
like
Kingsley.