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From YouTube: CHAOSS Metrics Models Working Group November 8-9, 2022
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B
C
Actually,
today,
in
today,
I
I,
post,
one
Topic
in
today's
agenda
and
first
day,
is
about
the
collaboration
between
chaos
and
Compass
perfect,
and
it's
a
it's
a
in
the
meanings
of
two
communities,
formal
or
official
collaborations
so
I
have
some
ideas
to
I
would
like
to
discuss
with
you
guys
to
say
how
it's
going
so
first
So.
Currently
you
know
in
compass,
we
lost
the
meeting
I
already
demo,
how
it
how
it
works,
and
at
the
end
of
yesterday
we
have
collected
more
being
like
a
5.
C
000
repositories
exists
in
GitHub
and
Getty
and
we
will
keep
a
collecting
more
data
from
GitHub
and
gate
of
course,
and
finally,
we
will
collect
all
the
repositories
existed
in
Getty,
of
course,
because
you
know
we
have
a
gate,
support
on
that
in
China
and
also
we
will
collect
as
more
GitHub
repository
as
we
can
So.
Currently,
that's
what
kind
of
data
size
we
plan
to
have
and
the
matrix
model
we
have,
as
you
can
see
that
maybe
I
can
share
some
of
my
screen.
C
And
yeah
that's
great
and
you
can
see
that
yeah,
almost
the
five
thousand,
more
or
less
the
same
same,
but
the
things
is
that
the
matrix
model
we
have
is
all
the
matrix
model.
We
have.
We
already
got
in
chaos
so
as
I
I
I
think
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
all
the
metrics
model
I
think
we
would
use
the
matrix
model
produced
by
chaos.
C
That's
fourth
thing
and
in
the
future,
if
there
are
more
matrix
model
proposed
from
chaos,
even
it's
not
motor
enough
just
some
ideas
or
some
thinkings
from
oxbows
from
any
other
people's
in
chaos.
We
plan
to
set
up
a
matrix
model,
beta
version
in
compass
to.
C
A
C
C
You
will
see
the
some
some
new
matrix
model,
how
it
works
if
it's
an
already
made
or
requirement,
because
we
have
some
scenarios
of
this
behind
this
matrix
model.
If
this
Matrix
models
result
verified
by
this
real
world
data
has
made
this
matrix
model
purpose.
C
That's
or
that's
my
thinkings
and
I
already
get
agreement
from
compass
and
from
Getty
so
and
you
don't
have
to
vary
so
much
about
the
deployment
work
and
the
development
work
way
would
help
to
to
in
to
implement
this
matrix
model
and
and
to
deploy
it
on
the
compass.
B
So
so,
thank
you
so
I
mean
removing
the.
Hopefully
you
can
hear
me:
okay,
I
mean
removed.
Moving
yeah
makes
sense
to
me
too
helping
with
the
infrastructure
and
real
world
deployment,
as
you're
saying
would.
B
So
so
do
you
think
yahui
that
it
would
really
just
take?
Maybe
you
know
the
definition
markdown
file,
because
those
are
pretty
easy
to
generate.
C
They
already
have
many
new
metrics
model
exists
in
chaos,
matrix
model
working
group,
and
if
such
data
is
available
on
the
GitHub
okay,
we
would
we.
It
should
be
very
easy
for
us
to
collect
such
data
and
and
and
and
to
generate
a
new
matrix
model.
Of
course,
we
have
some
algorithm
as
you
can
see,
and
we
use
HP
to
to
calculate
the
weight,
but
if
this
new
model
have
a
new
algorithm,
we
would
also
very
happy
to
to
use
this
okay,
new
algorithm.
B
C
I
think
such
decisions
should
not
only
made
by
by
myself
I
think
that
decision
should
be
made
by
our
working
group
together
and
also
okay.
We
we
also
need
to
consider
and
discuss
with
the
compass
but
I
think
that
part
is
no
problem
once
we
think
in
in
chaos.
Working
group
think
okay,
the
such
matrix
model.
It's
it's
good
to
verify.
C
With
a
with
a
with
real-world
data
and
Encompass
in
in
compass
Community,
we
can
help
to
implement
this
matrix
model
and,
as
I
mentioned,
and
for
this
part
this
is
official,
I
mean
the
already
deployed
and
matrix
model,
and
we
can
set
up
a
new
page
for
the
metrics
model,
better
beta
version
for
this
type.
Okay-
and
we
can
verify
that.
But
before
it's
much
enough
before
we
achieve
the
agreement
on
this
matrix
model,
we
would
not
deploy
deploy
it.
But
after
we
made
decision.
Okay,
we
all
think
this
matrix
model
is.
A
C
Yeah
I
think
most
of
the
party
is
the
same
as
we
defined
already
and
I
also
think,
because
we
in
most
in
most
matrix
model,
we
have
a
definition.
That
part
is
ready,
so
I
think
after
this,
this
one
is
ready.
C
I
think
we
can
considering
that
if
it's
ready
to
go
to
deploy
it
to
to
verify
this
metrics
model
with
the
real
world
data
I
think,
for
example,
I,
don't
know,
maybe
this
funding
and
okay
once
we
have.
This
funding
already
exists
in
the
GitHub
repository
on
the
chaos,
and
we
can
we
can
foreign.
D
B
C
As
you
can
see
here,
we
just
released
the
awesome
matrix
model,
exactly
definition,
how
we
connected
the
data
and
beta
and
strikeout,
and
for
the
insights.
We
didn't
copy
paste
from
chaos,
matrix
model,
okay,.
B
C
B
C
This
is
the
actually
we
have
one
model
generally
result,
and
also
we
have
each
of
single
Matrix
result
for
this
matrix
model.
For
example.
Here
we
have
yes,
let
me
check.
Okay,
this
is
the
code
quality
I
think
this
is
called
quality
result
yeah
exactly,
and
if
you
check
the
code
quality,
the
detail
or
the
metrics,
you
will
find
that
so.
B
C
B
C
Maybe
I'll
introduce
the
detailed
algorithm
in
this
matrix
model
because
I
I
I'm
still
working
on
some
documentation,
part.
Okay,
all
the
documentation
would
would
put
it
here.
Okay
and
then
it
will
say
that
and
I
will
add
each
of
single
new
algorithm.
Okay,.
B
So,
can
you
go
back
to
the
metrics
models
on
Compass
yeah?
Can
you
go
to
the
Top
Again
scroll
up
to
the
no
just
scroll,
yeah
yeah?
So
so
you
might
it
might.
You
might
want
to
put
like
code
quality
guarantee
algorithm
or
some
some
language
there?
That
says
this
is.
This
is
the
algorithm
by
which
code
quality
guarantee
is.
B
C
Mm-Hmm
sure,
because
I'm
thinking
that,
as
you
know,
that
we
already
communicate
the
relationship
between
the
chaos
and
the
compass
well,
I
think
we
already
know
why
we
want
to
create
this
compass
in
China
and
and
the
way
still
won't
have
a
close
connection
between
these
two
communities.
Of
course.
C
So
that's
why
that's
I
just
propose
such
ideas
or
suggestions
to
see
how
it
works
between
two
two
communities
about
this
matrix
model,
because
I'm
thinking
that
in
our
metrics
model
working
group
in
chaos
and
in
the
future
in
hospital
working
group,
we
would
have
more
ideas
about
metrics
and
the
matrix
model
and
the.
C
B
D
Question
for
Matt
and
Sean:
do
you
all
think
that
there
should
be
a
place
on
our
website
called
like
chaos,
Partners
or
something
like
that,
where
we
can
link
out
to
to
books
like
Compass,
who
are
using
the
metrics
models
or
metrics
in
practice.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
of
course
I.
Think
I
think
the
answer
is
yes,
and
so
there
is
currently
Compass
right
now
and
then
I
mean
there
is
kind
of
a
at
a
smaller
degree
that
was
kind
of
Daniel's
question
around
cauldron.
You.
C
B
B
B
The
work
is
maybe
organized
outside
of
the
chaos
like
the
core
work
is
outside
of
the
chaos
project,
but
without
the
Glass,
Project
I
think
a
lot
of
this
core
work
wouldn't
go
forward
either
yeah,
so,
okay,
yeah,
no
I.
So
the
answer
is
100,
yes
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
how
to
do
that
in
a
in
a
meaningful
way.
I'm
almost
wondering
if
you
know
the
the
new
website,
Elizabeth
yeah,
we
have
those
banners
going
across.
A
B
So
if
you,
let
me
I,
don't.
B
Fine,
it's
fine,
we
need
to
coordinate
with
I
mean
it
could
be
a
simple
a
web
page
and
we
might
want
to
coordinate.
A
A
B
C
We
already
give
a
special
thank
you
to
to
chaos
and
Grimlock
yeah,
and
also
we
can
create
another
Banner
to
say,
okay
and
we
we
have
set
up
collaboration
with
the
chaos
community
and
to
say
and
how
it
works
and.
B
B
D
C
Thank
you
so
much
yeah
and
yeah
and
I
think,
except
for
the
you
know
the
logo
on
the
these
two
communities
website
and
earlier
suggestion
I
mentioned
we
can.
We
can
start
right
now
to
considering
what
his
next
matrix
model
is
ready
to
be
verified
and
I
also
need
to
discuss
with
the
compass
community
that
we
need
to
set
up
a
separate
page
to
show
the
beta
version.
Okay,
okay,.
B
So
that
that
is
really
great,
because
that
allows
me
to
think
about
metrics
models
a
little
bit
differently
and
I
think
we
can
think
about
them
a
little
bit
faster
now
in
the
chaos
project.
To
be
honest
with
you,
because
if
I
think
one
of
our
challenges
was
the
implementation
component
was
always
kind
of
lagging.
B
B
C
C
Achievements
from
from
universities
like,
like
you
guys,
say
and
and
met,
and
also
from
professors
for
from
China's
universities,
so
and
and
all
the
results
and
I
mean
the
very
for
beta
version,
with
your
feedback
to
the
chaos
and,
of
course,
it's
public
data
because,
as
you
can
see,
that
we
have
a
privacy
policy
and
term
of
use
and
we
will
not
leak
any
of
their
personal
data
on
such
a
compass,
Community
right
and
also
for
the
other
people,
maybe
in
China.
They
also
have
some
new
ideas
about
matrix
model.
B
C
B
C
After
after
we
discussed
the
chaos
metrics
model
together,
I
mean
in
this
group.
Okay,
that's
why
it's
good
good
to
go
and
I
mean
we
we
can.
We
can
just
use
Compass
to
verify
such
thing
so.
B
Then
do
you
think
that
the
repository
that
I'm
looking
at
or
the
org
that
I'm
looking
at
right
now?
Would
it
be
this
org
that
would
kind
of
hold
the
implementation
details
of
the
models
and
that
the
chaos
metrics
model
repository.
C
C
They
actually
have
GitHub,
as
you
can
see,
we
will
record
out
and
all
the
repositories
data
we
already
collected
under
these
repositories,
and
we
have
a
simple
repositories
here
and
you
can
see
that
we
have
Getty
and
GitHub
and
GitHub.
This
is
the
metrics
I
mean
the
repository
we
already
collected,
but
this
is
not
all
the
data.
Now
all
the
information
we
proposed
we
already
collected,
because
we
use
some
background
to
collect
the
data
yeah
quickly.
Okay,
this
this
but
I
mean
in
the
next
week.
C
We
will
to
upload
all
the
repositories
information
we
are,
we
already
collected
into
this
project
and
to
let
everybody
to
see
how
many
repositories
we.
B
C
Collected
okay
and
in
our
better
version
we
can
choose.
Maybe
this
matrix
model
is
specific
for
some
for
one
of
the
repositories
yeah.
Well,
the
monster
is
awesome
areas
like
people,
learning,
deep
learning
or
online
operation
system,
distribution
or
database.
You
can
choose
for
that.
Okay,
it
goes
out
for.
B
C
B
B
C
Agree
I
agree,
but
we
need
to
we
also.
We
need
to
mention
that
the
algorithm
is
is
welcome,
but
it's
not
it's
absolutely
not
yeah.
It's
that
absolutely
just
an
optional
Choice.
Okay,
we're
welcoming
the
new
algorithm,
of
course.
Okay,.
B
And
I
think
if
we
could
I
mean
if
we
could
ever
update
the
metrics
models
to
point
to
the
algorithm,
that's
located
on
Compass
as
well
I
mean
that
could
also
solve
the
problem.
You
know
what
I
mean
we
could
just
say
the
algorithm
is
available
here.
If
you
want
to
see
how
this
is
deployed,
because
you
already
have
that
yeah.
That
would
be
much
easier
because
then
I
think
too.
It
would
help
if
we're
working
with
I
suppose
and
there's
a
metrics
model
that
they
would
like
to
see.
B
C
C
A
D
B
You
know
what
I
mean
old
school
and
some
I'll
figure
out
what
that
looks
like
and
then
another
action
item
for
me
would
be
to
modify
the
matrix
model
template
to
be
a
little
bit
more
concise
so
that
we
can
just
really
get
the
definitions
out
quickly.
B
C
But
I
think
Matt
I
I
still
want
to.
After
this
matrix
model
is
done.
It's
verified.
We
encourage
people
to
to
give
some
Data
Insights
it's
matrix
model
yep.
B
So
then
it
would
be
kind
of
a
yeah,
so
I
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
remove
the
implementation
part,
but
I
could
maybe
make
that
deliberate
in
the
model
template.
But
you
don't
have
to
do
the
implementation
now,
but
once
it's
implemented
for
please
either
link
to
the
implementation
details
on
Compass
or
provide
them
here
in
the
model.
Whatever
okay.
C
B
Wonderful
partnership,
so
do
you
think
that
the
in
the
GitHub
repository
for
Compass?
So
if
you
go
back
to
that,
do
you
think,
at
least
for
the
time
being
that
you
would
maintain
that
repository
yourself?
Or
do
you
see
any
of
those
contributions
coming
to
the
chaos
project
either?
Answer
is
fine
I'm
just
trying
to
think
through.
C
This
it's
welcoming
because
I'm
thinking,
because
what
I
just
mentioned,
that
in
compass,
Community,
would
responsible
for
all
the
implementation
and
and
the
deployment
work
in
compass.
But
if,
if
other
people
from
chaos
or
any
other
areas,
they
would
like
to
Country
contribute
to
Compass
to
help
us
to
verify
this
new
matrix
model
is
really
welcoming.
Okay,.
B
C
Yeah
and
as
you
know,
that
the
warehouse
like
channel
to
help
people
outside
of
China
to
easily
communicate
with
each
other
and
the
WeChat
in
China,
it's
more
popular.
C
A
B
Okay,
this
is
great,
so
then
I
think
maybe
my
other
small
action
item
is
I
want
to
go
back
through.
If
you
go
to
the
spreadsheet,
yep
I
want
to
go
back
through
now
that
I
kind
of
know
the
trajectory
yeah.
A
D
B
D
C
B
Yeah
I
agree
because
now
that
we
have
the
ability
to
see
them
as
just
aggregated
models
like
it
to
me,
it
matters
less
so
anymore
that
we
have
six
four
six,
eight
ten,
because
you
can
get
a
single
view
of
a
metric
model
and
so
by
the
way.
Just
so
you
all
know
too
I've
been
talking
a
lot
about
metrics
models
here
at
the
Linux
Foundation
member
Summit
as
a
way
to
provide
context
to
metrics
everybody
loves
it
absolutely.
B
Loves
the
model
idea
that
anyone
metric
alone
not
so
useful,
but
together
it
starts
providing
context
so
anyway,
so
yeah
I
agree
with
you
Elizabeth
that
we
could
probably
take
a
look
at
at
more
than
just
four
or
five
per
model.
D
Because
I
think,
like
I,
can
speak
to
the
community
welcomingness
that
and
it
just
got
over
there.
We
did
have
a
lot
more
in
there
and
then
we,
at
least
from
my
point
of
view.
It
was
hard
to
know
what
it
put
out.
What
to
leave
in
so
I
think
it
just
kind
of
stagnated
there,
because
we
had
all
of
these.
We
just
did,
but
then
it
was
like
yeah.
A
A
So
I
think
there
is
a
you
know.
Yes,
we
can
do
whatever
I
might
suggest
that
we
think
about
if,
if
we
end
up
throwing
eight
or
twelve
metrics
in
every
metrics
model,
are
we
developing
that
focused
collection?
That's
on
a
specific
point,
or
are
we
increasing
confusion
as
the
number
of
metrics
models
grow?
I?
Don't
have
the
answer
to
that?
It's
I
think
just
a
question.
We
want
to
ask
ourselves:
that's
very.
B
A
C
A
A
A
B
A
A
So
I
haven't
I
have
not
gone
through
after
you
accepted
the
changes
to
make
sure,
but
it's
all
still
good
that
it's
coh
yeah
like
there
aren't
like
little
weird
typo
things.
I
can
do
that
tomorrow.
A
I
would
just
be
able
to
well
I'd
have
to
cop
I
would
have
to
create
the
markdown
version
of
this.
A
little
bit,
which
is
fine
I,
can
do
that.
That
might
take
me
more
than
a
day,
but
well,
they
should
be
not.
A
A
B
A
C
B
D
B
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
well
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
gonna,
wrap
it
up
and
look
it
got
dark
here.
Snow
is
still
still
snowing,
oh
yeah.
Just
so
you
all
know.
B
A
C
A
D
D
A
I
think
I
think
the
parking
lot
is
empty
enough
that
we
could
probably
do
donuts
in
the
Camaro
I
rented.