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CHAOSS.Community.November.19.2019
A
A
One
was
the
chaos
community
reports,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
keep
everybody
posted
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
in
the
chaos
project
is
working
on
community
dashboards
or
not
community
dashboards
community
documents
like
a
PDF,
and
so
these
would
be
put
together
for
two
different
communities,
Zephyr
on
one
hand
and
Jenkins
X
on
the
other.
So
we
had
a
meeting
was
it
last
week
at
the
end
of
last
week
on
Friday
with
members
from
those
communities,
and
we
kind
of
have
a
path
forward
right
now.
A
We're
the
the
hope
is
is
to
a
lot
of
the
chaos
metrics
in
practice,
meaning
on
these
PDFs
and
something
that
these
communities
can
share
amongst
their
communities
with
community
members
and
community
managers.
Just
to
give
some
insights
on
on
their
projects.
So
I
did
put
a
link
in
there
to
Eric
I.
Put
that
preliminary
dashboard.
I
hope
you
don't
mind
on
that.
One
well.
C
A
Luck
pretty
condense
it
down.
Salah
use
the
raised
hand
thing
and
I've
never
seen
that
used
in
one
of
our
meetings.
It's.
D
Better
for
me
to
always
raise
my
hand,
because
that's
great,
how
did
you
raise
your
hand
by
the
way?
Well,
you
can't
cure
the
host,
because,
okay,
not
that
your
hand,
is
raised
whenever
you
speak.
Oh
yeah,
it's
also
implied
in
my
case,
but
I
learned
to
push
the
button,
because
I
speak
a
lot
to
interrupt
everyone,
big
tension,
and
hopefully
there
will
be
less
appengine
so
forth.
Well,
start
off
with
big
engines.
D
For
the
past
year,
I've
been
working
on
an
engine
called
mark
out,
and
it's
basically
saying
that
okay
mark
down
was
cool.
It
was
invented
to
be
server-side
rendered.
It
basically
just
makes
your
Dom
kind
of
inert
or
the
other
word
and
whatever
and
basically
I'm
bringing
this
up,
because
I
I
decided
to
go
a
direction
that
most
people
don't
do.
D
They
say
they
create
their
own
flavor
of
markdown,
but
I
create
a
rendering
engine
which
I
called
mark
out,
and
the
idea
is
that
it's
an
interactive,
markdown,
inspired
way
of
writing
documents
that
you
know
the
author
of
the
document
can
feel
connected
to
the
material
it's
readable.
It
can
be
shared
in
raw
text.
Then
it
hits
the
Dom
it's
actually
rendered
in
the
Dom,
and
then
it
becomes
interactive
because
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
bind
itself
with
legacy,
thoughts
or
server-side,
rendering
and
security.
It's
right
there
in
the
browser.
D
It
adheres
to
the
security
of
the
browser
and
at
the
same
time,
because
they
come
from
a
printing
background.
An
important
component
for
me
was
to
close
this
debate
about
print
first
and
web
first.
It
turns
out
it's
neither
so
so
I'm
bringing
this
up
here,
because
so
far
I've
been
just
prototyping
this
engine.
D
It's
basically
based
on
something
called
like
the
column,
width
or
the
column
size.
When
you
read
a
column
of
text,
no
matter
what
format
there
is
a
particular
width
where
your
head
and
your
eye
movement
is
convenient
for
how
we
consume
that
particular
in
your
meeting.
I.
Would
love
to
you
know,
get
into
more
detail,
got
very
excited,
but
let
me
try
to
be
courteous.
I
would
love
to
actually
see
this
grow
and
I
think
it
could
be
an
ideal
place
for
you
know
for
me
to
bring
this.
D
D
A
D
It's
it's
a
design
space
right,
it's
like
I'm
sure
there
are
solutions
that
try
to
get
you
a
way
to
create
content
that
is
web
and
print,
but
but
this
is
a
novel
approach
that
tries
to
really
make
it.
You
know
I,
guess,
unlocking
the
features
that
markdown
locks,
making,
making
the
consumption
oriented
to
the
reader,
regardless
of
the
media
and
down
the
road
I,
want
to
actually
implement
something
that
puts
accessibility
as
a
as
a
concern.
As
you
create
all
these
first
notes
of
your
documents,
the
other.
C
D
I
I
designed
right
so
I
can
design
illustrator
things,
but
since
I
started
mark
out
itself,
like
I
only
introduced
images,
because
I
really
had
to
put
an
image
to
talk
about
it
like
six
months
later,
can
I
download
markup
and
give
it
a
shot
it?
It
works
because
I
can
hold
it
on
the
side
like
it,
like
I,
haven't
thought
of
making
this
as
a
package.
D
Yet,
except
last
week
you
know
you
know
I've
been
asking
around
if
people
want
to
use
it,
people
are
like
yeah,
it's
cool,
it's
nice,
but
last
week
I
was
like
okay,
here's
the
thing
I'm
gonna
convince
someone
to
actually
use
it
and
they
did
and,
and
so
I've
been
thinking
last
week
of
all
the
refactoring
that
I
need
to
do
to
package
it,
like
you
know
the
best.
The
best
a
demo
I
can
think
of.
D
C
D
Yeah
but
well,
I
think
those
the
second
light
should
have
opened
the
hatch
like
copy
it
and
paste
it,
because
I
think
the
hash
might
have
been
draw
yeah.
Okay,
so
I
got
it:
okay,
yeah!
That's
just
because
I
didn't
build
that
engine.
You
know
as
a
as
a
you
know,
a
blogging
platform,
so
I
just
use
hashes
to
point
it
to
different
markdown
sources.
D
A
Curious
yeah,
so
I
think
I
mean
I,
don't
think
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
that
this
might
be
a
way
to
deliver
this
content
to
the
groups.
That's
ultimately
what
I
mean
yeah
key
yeah,
that's
I'm.
Hearing
yeah
I
can
tell
you
that
we
didn't
have
I,
don't
think
we've
discussed
a
way
to
do
the
delivery
at
this
point.
So
looking
at
Garrick
shaking
his
head,
no
and
I'm.
C
D
A
D
D
D
We,
the
idea
here,
is
that
first
thing
is
done
in
the
main
thread
where
it
could
be
done
in
a
worker
to
make
it
more
responsive.
But
I
I
keep
everything
just
prototypes
at
this
point
attached,
but
need
to
be
packaged
and
done.
You
know
used
reliably.
Definitely
portability!
It's
a
custom
element.
I
know
you
guys
use
angular
on
your
website.
I've
had
a
thing
about
react,
not
reacting
well
to
web
components.
You
know
first
back
html5
web
components,
but
you
know
even
the
act
can
handle
this.
D
A
Yeah
I'm
having
having
more
people
involved
in
the
development
of
these
community
reports
and
ways
that
we
can
improve
delivery,
whether
it's
on
the
web
or
in
print
as
you
were
talking
about
earlier
I'm
all
for
it,
I
think
I
had
just
easily
always
said:
PDF
yeah,
it's
a
he
just
just
because,
but
not
because
I
love
it
just
document
format
yeah.
So
people
would
understand
that
I
can't
be
getting
it.
Massa.
D
P
is
a
single
source
of
you
have
one
markdown
that
is
human
people
and
writable,
not
just
you
know,
claiming
to
be
human
readable,
and
then
you
look
at
it
and
can't
really
know
what
happens
the
do
ages
ago.
When
you
spoke
you
know,
but
so
it's
meant
to
be
human,
readable,
single
sort.
You
don't
create
all
these
versions.
These
versions
are
just
merely
the
rendering
of
the
single
sports
mm-hmm.
C
A
E
D
The
second
thing
is
to
you
know
at
the
same
time
is
to
also
try
to
come
up
with
what
conventions
we
want
to
do,
because
when
you
create
a
single
source
document
it
it
basically
will
have
things
that,
are
you
know,
contextual
print,
only
contextually
screen
only
under
certain
cases
that
your
training
will,
of
course,
but
that
basically
can
can
kind
of
be
orga
like
isomorphic.
If
I
can
borrow
this
word
and
and
now,
I
can
I
can
Indian
share
my
screen
and
show
me
quickly
an
example
of
how
I
made
an
interactive
playground.
C
Sorry
I'm
willing
to
try
this
because
I
spent
a
good
deal
of
effort
trying
to
get
latex
to
compile
to
a
document
and
to
a
blog
post,
maybe
a
year
ago,
and
you
know
eventually
just
gave
up
on
that
dream.
So
if
this
sounds
like
it
does
something
similar,
especially
for
print
I,
think
it
looks
pretty
lightweight
to
play
with
I.
Probably
I'd,
send
you
a
half
dozen
questions
out
of
the
gate
about
how
to
get
started
because
there's
not
a
not
a.
Where
do
I
begin.
Read
me:
no!
No,
like.
D
At
least
you
know
it's
open
source
by
the
way
and
I
welcome
very
much
people
joining.
You
can
have
a
meeting
about
mark
mark
out.
Sorry,
you
know
in
that
project
if
you
want
to
on
board,
but
for
now
you
know,
let's
say
we
can
have
a
follow
up
at
some
point:
yeah
we
can
find
back
for
you
know,
I'm
sure
there
is
agenda
item
I.
B
D
You
can
do
full
HTML
in
mark
out
no
restrictions.
You
can
have
spritz
styles,
you
know
I've
just
configured
it
in
my
what
I'd
like
to
call
frictionless
configuration
where
I
don't
have
configuration
files
wherever
I
use
it,
but
you
know
if
we
want
to
build
configuration
based
pipeline
and
and
start
to
add
features
of
branding,
consistent
consistency,
special
styles,
all
these
things.
You
basically
are
writing
not
just
the
subset
of
HTML,
then
that
github
allows
and
other
sites.
D
You
know
coffee,
but
rather
anything
that
goes
in
the
Dom
you
can
put
inside
your
markdown
document.
It
obviously
becomes
a
little
bit
harder
to
read
if
you
are
turning
it
into
HTML
to
make
it
interactive,
and
so
I've
only
discovered
that
there
are
certain
specific
elements
that
you
can
write
as
shorthand
HTML
right
in
the
HTML
expect
and
I
find
those
a
favorable
compromise.
You
know,
as
I'm
happy
I'm
happy
to
try
it
ya.
D
Perfect,
alright,
so
I'll
just
leave
that
link
for
the
playground
just
be
sure
to
try
to
print
it
in
pro
and
and
if
it
doesn't
open
in
chrome,
just
copy
and
paste
the
link.
It
should
work
in
Firefox
and
Safari.
Firefox
has
really
bad
printing.
So
I,
don't
recommend
printing
the
wiring
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
burn.
That's
it
done
cool.
Thank
you.
So.
A
E
A
F
We
had
talked
about
how
many
stickers
we
were
gonna
need
for
Fossum.
If
we,
if
we
get
the
table
yeah,
it
might
be
better
to
spend
the
money
on
stickers
because
I
think
yeah
I
know
you.
You
had
said
that
the
number
of
stickers
was
was
pretty
high
when,
when
Victor
she
was
there
was
that
correct,
I.
C
A
A
B
The
order,
though
the
most
logical
thing
would
be
to
see
if
we
can
order
to
the
hotel,
yeah.
A
C
A
Right,
you
can't
see
I'm
trying
to
drag
my
feet
on
doing
this.
You
can't
read
between
the
lines
all
right.
If
you
don't
want
to
get
it,
no
I'll,
do
it
it's
just
there's
I,
don't
know.
I
it's
dealing
with
community
bridge
anymore
is
getting
to
be
a
bit
of
a
pain,
sometimes
I'll
see
if
I
can't
buy
him
right
out
of
there.
Okay,
cool
I'll.
Do
it!
So
that's
a
yes!
Somebody
put
yes
in
the
minutes.
A
Yes,
hey
I'm
Matt,
all
right,
any
other
I
didn't
have
any
other
chaos
con
stuff
a
or
did
you
sometimes
we
use
this
meeting.
We
still
want
to
use
the
meeting
today
to
talk
about
chaos
con
stuff.
We
can
defer
some
of
this
discussion
until
we
get
through
these
other
points.
Most.
B
A
A
A
So
we're
gonna
start
that
conversation
and
just
kind
of
see
where
things
are
at
there
is
a
new
metric
and
order
with
respect
to
risk,
which
is
not
only
it's
kind
of
building
on
the
licenses
that
are
in
the
project
as
identified
from
pathology,
but
then
also
identifying.
Those
licenses
is
whether
or
not
they're
OSI
defined
in
the
OSI
list.
So
that's
what
that
metric
is
showing
right
there
that
small
screen
capture
so
we're
gonna
be
building
out.
Another
metric
on
around
Oh
si
o
si
defined
licenses
any
other
things
on
risk.
A
A
That's
great
so
it's
nice
to
see
those
kind
of
moving
forward,
slash
done
and
that'll
round
out
some
of
the
really
kind
of
the
primary
metrics
around
event.
Diversity
I
know
that
there
can
be
more
and
a
couple.
Others
came
up
with
respect
to
diversity
of
material
diversity
of
languages,
diversity
in
the
delivery
of
talks.
So
there
are
some
nice
ideas
that
came
out
of
that
discussion
as
well,
but
it
was
nice
to
put
those
to
kind
of
closure.
A
C
A
A
F
A
E
A
D
A
Each
one
of
the
so
in
the
project
we
have
five
different
working
groups,
and
so
those
working
groups
are
diversity
and
inclusion
risk
value
evolution
in
common
in
each
one
of
those
working
groups
is
working
to
identify
metrics.
That
would
be
that
would
help
kind
of
provide
transparency
around
risk
or
around
value
around
DNI,
and
so
each
of
the
working
group
has
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
Some
of
them
are
every
two
weeks.
A
Some
of
them
are
every
week
and
the
one
of
the
goals
in
these
meetings
is
to
define
what
the
what
the
new
set
of
metrics
are
for
our
second
release.
So
there
has
been
a
first
release
of
chaos,
metrics
and
we're
gonna
be
doing
a
second
release
the
day
before
positive
January
31st
at
chaos
con,
and
so
the
working
groups
are
I'm
asking
the
working
groups
kind
of
where
they're
at
in
terms
of
articulating
the
new
set
of
metrics.
For
the
second
release
for
merging
to
essentially.
D
A
And
so
that
spreadsheet,
that
we
have
the
spreadsheet,
that's
in
the
minutes,
truely's
tracking
spreadsheet,
that
that'll
kind
of
show
you
what
has
been
released.
What
is
ready
to
be
released
and
what's
kind
of
on
people's
minds-
mm-hmm
we're
not
talking
about
at
the
moment,
but
additional
metrics.
That
could
probably
provide
further
transparency
on
these
particular
groups.
So
each
one
of
the
tabs
represents
a
working
group.
I.
D
B
A
A
C
C
We've
got
a
couple
of
folks
now
or
just
they
don't
care
about
our
UI,
even
though
it's
amazing
they
just
they
want
the
data
so
and
I
think
that's
a
common
use
case
really
honestly,
because
everyone's
got
their
own
little
corporate
infrastructure,
where
they
want
to
say
things
a
consistent
way.
Okay,.
A
E
A
C
A
A
A
B
The
community
reports
what
I
was
thinking
now
that
we
have
the
list
of
repost
that
Jenkins
x1
shot?
Yes,
we
have
the
data
in
one
place.
I
was
thinking
about
trying
to
create
this
remote
so
without
collaborating
through
the
calls
with
trying
to
coordinate
through
the
Manliness,
just
as
it's
a
moat
that
we
don't
use
a
lot
in
chaos
and
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
try.
C
A
Well,
I
think
it
would
do
a
couple
things,
at
least
in
my
mind.
One
is
it
would
do
this
in
a
very
transparent
way.
I
mean
I
know
these
calls
are
open
to
everybody,
but
the
asynchronous
nature
of
the
mailing
list
allows
everybody
some
insight,
even
if
they
don't
participate
for
sugar
and
then
it
might
also
matter
know
if
this
is
what
you
have
in
mind
here
too,
but
it
might
also
allow
other
people
who
are
part
of
communities
to
see
what's
available
and
maybe
something
they
want
to
do
as
well.
D
Lists
because
I
I
recall
a
long
time
ago.
This
was
something
that
we
did
and
then
for
me
at
least,
for
five
years,
I
didn't
I've
had
Google
Groups
I.
You
know
they're
they're
kind
of
like
mailing
lists
at
that
point
and
make
me
happy
convenience
that
you
can
go
to
the
group
and
you
know
all
the
thread,
but
it's
really
just
the
mailing
list
with
a
box
interface.
D
B
D
Yes,
this
course
is
actually
proving
very,
very
late,
like
actually
a
lot
of
communities
use
them,
and
you
know
they
really
deliver
good
on
time.
You
know
communication,
all
the
time.
I
think
you
know
it's
what
corner
work
on
fine
right,
so
so
one
thing
to
consider
or
just
you
know
what
works
today's
good?
It's
something.
B
We've
considered
in
the
past-
and
he
even
had
discourse
instance
for
free
for
one
year,
but
people
just
wanted
to
continue
using
the
mailing
list.
So
if
you
want
to
bring
up
the
conversation
and
see,
things
have
changed
in
the
last
year
feel
free
to
do
it.
It's
an
open
community,
but
my
sense.
It's
probably
gonna
stay
on
the
mailing
list.
Yeah.
D
A
A
I
guess
so
I'm
one
of
the
people
that
expresses
the
does
expressed
concern
because
there's
a
way
that
communities
work
and
anytime,
we
suggest
a
change
in
that
way
of
work.
I
have
to
be
pretty
well
convinced.
Just
personally,
it's
not
like
I
have
the
full
say,
but
it's
just
usually
my
argument.
The
changing
we're
getting
a
lot
of
great
work
done
in
changing
the
way
that
we
work
can
be
tricky.
Sometimes
that's
all
well.
Thank
you.
Yep
I
put
it
in
the
minutes.
That
will
something
they
want
to
reconsider,
not.
B
D
Great
appreciate
the
time
everybody
I
did
mention
chat
with
you
guys
on
mine
in
the
end
I
just
had
to
you
know,
I
wanted
to
come
in,
and
you
know
you
I'm
not
sure,
there's
enough
context
in
this
call,
but
I,
basically
from
the
nodejs
project,
where
we're
trying
to
start
this
initiative
for
diversity.
Inclusion
related
to
accessibility
related
to
open
source.
D
Where
you
know
people
go
volunteer
their
time
and
are
not
necessarily
you
know
in
a
mindset
where
they
want
to
do
something
they
don't
like
to
necessarily
be
doing,
and
and
it's
okay
that
because
they're
delivering
software
to
have
that
argument.
We're
here
to
volunteer
it's
not
fair,
that
you
asked
us
to
actually
do
something
that
might
be
less.
D
These
are
not
necessarily
you
know,
statements
that
you
hear,
but
it's
very
very
hard
to
to
conceive
of
open
source
collaboration
that
is
inclusive
for
people
with
various
kinds
of
disabilities.
So
so
my
I
don't
have
a
vision
for
the
initiative
other
than
the
fact
that
there
is
a
mod.
That
is
not
heard
because
a
lot
of
people
who
struggle
unconventionally
struggle
to
openly
open
an
issue
up
and
say,
hey,
listen,
I
have
a
unique
problem.
D
D
You
know
be
caught
up
with
the
collaboration
there's
just
too
much
left
unhurt
and
too
too
much
left,
unanswered
and
and
so
I'm.
You
know,
I'm
happy.
We
found
chaos
which
was
recommended
by
get
in
a
call,
but
you
know
with
certain
members
of
the
github
work,
and
you
know
we
ended
up
here
at
the
height
of
preparing
the
first
ever
set
of
questions
about
DNI
for
our
annual
survey.
D
There's
a
lot
of
good
vibes
in
the
community,
but
just
people
are
are
looking
at
the
uncertainty
and
they
are
not
necessarily
inspired
by
tenable
direction
to
help
and
what
I
was
you
know
what
what
I
was
hoping
to
get
at
by
joining
you
know
with
chaos
is
that
we
actually
come
up
with
a
way
to
measure
how
much
inclusion
is
not
there
detail
what
is
in
the
way
of
it
happening
it's
not
as
simple
as
telling
people
I
can
please
add
a
pause
button
for
people
to
pause
the
conversation
or
I.
D
Can
we
eliminate
emojis,
because
I
personally
have
trouble
reading
emojis
when
they're
used
in
you
know
without
context,
and
it
could
be
very
stressful,
like
these
are
all
things
that
can
only
come
after?
We
actually
understand
how
many
people
shut
away
or
live
away
from
open,
sores
and
end
up,
leaving
it
very,
very
homogeneous,
and
you
know,
let's
be
honest,
it
is
very
much.
A
A
D
A
Super
to
hear
I
I
would
honestly
recommend
if
you
can
articulate
kind
of
what
you're
talking
about
here
with
respect
to
say,
inclusion,
that's
not
there
or
barriers
that
are
in
the
way.
You
know
for
inclusion,
any
ways
that
you
can
kind
of
use
this
template
to
capture.
That
is
a
great
first
step.
Yeah.
D
And
I
don't
want
it
to
be
my
own
barriers
and
my
feeling
of
not
not
getting
to
a
point
where
I
can
feel
that
there
is
a
sentiment
for
inclusion,
you
know
or
a
lack
of
the
other
one.
So
so
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
animosity
or
bad
intent.
It's
just
lack
of
you
know
experience
for
some.
That
makes
it
very
hard
to
relate
on
it.
I'm
hoping
relieved
as
a
as
a
broader
spectrum,
and
you
know
not
just
where
a
is
the
or
not
so.
A
Yeah
I
know
spell
it
out
broadly
here
and
then
bring
it
to
the
DNA
working
group.
There
are
some
super
bright
people
who
will
talk
through
this
with
you,
okay,
so
so
I'll
just
follow
that
template
yeah
and
don't
worry
about
filling
everything
out.
I
mean
it's
largely
just
the
description
and
what
the
objective
I
think
might
be
good
for
starters.
Oh
yeah,
no
I
need
that.
D
A
Right
well,
I
think
that
we'll
call
the
end
of
this
weekly
session.
So
next
week
is
Thanksgiving
in
the
US,
so
I
still
plan
on
being
here
on
Tuesday,
but
well
hey.
This
might
affect
some
of
the
schedule
for
next
week.
Maybe
not
might
I
know
what
it
will
affect
some
of
the
schedule
for
next
week,
so
anyway,
just
FYI.