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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Meeting March 21 2023
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Meeting minutes can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/u/2/d/1PMDWc6xMe0fNE7shxTK5_HE_ykRBG5w55_Zx5hvzsEY/edit?pli=1
A
Okay,
if
somebody
could
figure
out
how
to
turn
on
captioning,
that
would
be
great
I
do
so.
Here's
our
list
today
and
thanks
I'm,
guessing
Enoch,
you
added
the
badging
bot,
so
we
can
make
sure
we
get
to
that
and
I
do
want
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
talk
about
chaoscon,
largely
because,
since
the
last
meeting
it
has
come
to
our
attention
that
it
is
being
streamed
and
we
have
like
80
people
that
have
signed
up
for
the
live
stream.
So
we
need
to
to
sort
that
out.
A
That
was
news
to
me
last
Wednesday
or
Thursday.
So
the
first
thing
is
this
is
from
the
to
do.
Group
I
just
wanted
to
let
people
know
that
there
appears
to
be
a
survey.
That's
coming
out
from
the
to
do.
Group
I
think
this
is
a
call
at
least
from
Anna.
If
you
would
like
to
be
like
connect
with
Hillary
and
LF
research
to
be
part
of
putting
together
the
survey.
A
You
know
kind
of
help
like
what
questions
need
to
be
asked
for
those
kinds
of
things.
So
we
had
done
this
before
in
the
chaos
group
for
the
chaos
Community
with
the
member
of
the
Linux
Foundation
Dei
survey,
that
was
run
maybe
like
a
year
or
two
ago,
maybe
a
year
ago.
So
there
were
members
of
the
chaos
project
that
we're
helping
helping
write
that
survey
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
this
out
there.
C
B
And
just
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
context,
this
is
an
ongoing
survey.
That's
been
happening
every
year
since
2018.,
so
I
think
what
they're
looking
for
is
not
necessarily
writing
a
whole
bunch
of
new
questions,
but
just
refining
things,
because
I
think
they
do
try
to
keep
the
questions
relatively
stable
so
that
they
can
look
over
time.
Compare
them,
compare
them
against
past
years,
because
this.
A
C
B
A
A
C
A
All
right,
so,
basically,
the
the
way
I'm
starting
to
set
this
up
is
just
around
the
two
questions
that
we
had
remember.
We
kind
of
had
led
it
with
a
couple
questions
and
I.
Just
did
a
a
kind
of
a
brief
overview
here,
and
all
that
I
was
doing
is
pulling
out
a
few
things
from
the
list
that
I
tried
to
also
kind
of
label.
A
Just
a
few
things
from
the
list
that
I
thought
I
personally
wanted
to
highlight,
and
so
kind
of
coming
out
of
this
was
I,
think
the
first
one
which
was
helping
people
communicate
within
their
organization
or
within
their
community
about
metrics.
So
not
us
communicating
to
other
people,
but
necessarily
within
an
organization
like
how
do
I,
effectively
communicate,
say
to
managers
how
do
I
effectively
communicate
to
teams,
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
kind
of
problems
around.
These
are
kind
of
some
of
the
the
problems
central
place
for
metrics
within
an
organization.
A
A
Sophia
this
did
come
up,
I
know
that
you
have
mentioned
taxonomies
before
and
so
I'm,
starting
and
I've
heard
this
too,
maybe
like
in
the
metric
model,
meeting
I
I
kind
of
forget
where.
But
this
is
like
the
third
time
this
has
come
up
the
word
taxonomy
and
so
I,
don't
I'll,
be
quite
honest.
I,
don't
quite
know
what
this
would
look
like,
or
what
this
means
I
have
an
idea.
C
The
way
I
frame
the
metrics
for
people
is
the
metrics
are
a
taxonomy
they're,
just
like
80
metric
times
three
pages
long
taxonomy,
which
is
unusable,
I
think
what
people
are
asking
for
is
that
succinct
definition
of
the
things
that
we
measure
that
are
represented
in
depth
in
the
metrics,
but
not
not
succinctly?
We
don't
give
people
assisting
set
of
definitions
of
things.
Okay,.
A
E
E
So
WordPress
taxonomies
would
be
super
super
helpful
and
one
other
thing
that
you
could
do
is
you
could
use
cptui,
which
is
a
basic
plugin
for
WordPress
to
create
your
own
taxonomies,
and
one
of
the
recommended
taxonomies
I
recommend
is
something
that
I
would
like
to
propose
as
metrics
purpose,
and
the
metrics
purpose
can
just
have
a
flat
tag
based
structure.
So
it's
not
like
hierarchical
in
any
way
shape
or
form,
but
it
allows
us
to
tag
the
actual
purpose
and
use
of
the
metric.
E
A
I
I,
don't
so
yes
thank
you
and
there
is
something
in
here:
I,
don't
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
find
it
amongst
the
notes,
but
talks
about
kind
of
bringing
forward
metrics
and
metrics
models,
I
think
by
purpose,
just
exactly
what
you
were
talking
about
is
one
of
the
suggestions
from
folks.
So
thank
you
for
that
yeah
Sophia.
Did
you
have
I
know
that
you,
you
don't
have
to
say
anything
if.
F
F
I
feel
like
a
spokes
on
the
UC
Davis
team
are
looking
at
90
project
characteristics
or
something
wild
like
that
and
trying
to
look
at
it.
So
I'm
gonna
I
took
that
as
an
action
to
go
truck
the
piece
down
or
poke
Vladimir
for
it,
because
I
think
I,
there's
so
many
ways
you
could
do
this
and
I
would
love
to
at
least
build
from
what
other
people
have
started.
So
yeah
so
I
feel
like
at
a
certain
point.
A
A
Fair
enough,
thank
you
and
then
this
is
just
so.
Basically,
this
is
a
call
if
people
want
to
take
a
look
at
at
kind
of
the
rough
document
that
I've
put
together
here.
This
doesn't
have
to
be
anything
that
is
just
mine,
so
the
link
is
here
you're,
more
than
welcome
to
go
over
and
take
a
look
at
this
blog
post
that
I'm
starting
to
put
together.
A
If
you
are
looking
at
the
kind
of
the
data
which
is
all
of
this
stuff
here
and
all
of
this
stuff
here,
so
just
a
full
set
of
all
the
recorded
comments
and
you're,
seeing
something
different,
you
know
or
something
you'd
like
to
highlight
in
a
post
that
you
think
would
be
great
to
share
with
other
people.
That's
great,
so
this
is
pretty
much
straight
text
too.
So
this
is
not
interpreted
by
me,
so
feel
free
to
add.
Please,
then
we
can
post
this
all
right.
A
Model
that
I
had
been
kind
of
putting
together
and
soliciting
feedback
over
the
week
since
since
I
I
talked
about
this
in
a
few
different
meetings,
one
was
last
week.
One
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
the
Common
working
group
was
the
we
probably
need
to
revisit
our
governance
documents
or
the
ways
we
think
about
governance
and
the
chaos
project.
A
B
C
B
I
think
that
you
know
when
we
first
defined
the
governance
for
this
project.
It
was
a
couple
of
pieces
of
software
and
a
governing
board
and
we've
evolved
so
far
beyond
that
and
and
what
I
would
really
like
to
see
as
a
part
of
doing
this
governance,
work
is
also
to
put
in
place
a
little
more
structure
to
give
people
an
idea
of
how
they
might
move
into
leadership
positions
so
leading
work
groups.
B
You
know
leading
some
of
these
other
areas
and
to
put
kind
of
a
framework
in
place
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
grow
more
people
into
various.
The
various
leadership
roles
that
we
that
we
have
available
to
us
at
this
point
in
the
project,
so
I'll
I'll
start
working
on
some
drafts
and
and
start
getting
feedback
from
people
that'd.
A
E
A
Okay,
thanks
Vanya
and
thanks
John,
all
right.
Well,
all
right
that
got
I
had
the
documentation
thing
and
that
guy
there's
a
lot
added
there,
while
I,
while
I
was
scrolling
down,
which
is
great.
So
this
was
just
something
that
was
kind
of.
On
my
mind,
is
we
probably
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
but
need
to
think
about
our
documentation
kind
of
like
our
governance,
that
is
in
the
chaos
project?
It
has
evolved
a
lot
over
time
and
I'm,
not
sure.
A
C
A
We
have
the
handbook
the
handbook
was
written
quite
a
while
ago.
It
was
sometimes
written
by
folks
who
are
no
longer
members
of
the
chaos
project
and
it
could
use
quite
a
bit
of
updating,
just
in
terms
of
kind
of
like
the
governance
document,
like
actually
talking
about
the
ways
that
we
work,
because
those
things
have
changed.
C
So
my
first
thought
is
that
part
of,
what's
being
done
with
the
governance,
the
challenges
that
Don
mentioned,
are
they
they
parallel
these
documentation
challenges?
So
as
we
go
forward
and
Define,
you
know
how
this
path
to
leadership
that
Don
mentioned
path
to
leadership
is
something
that
can
be
represented
in
how
we
describe
how
our
community
functions
in
the
documentation.
D
C
Know
I
know
in
my
own
navigation
of
our
website,
sometimes
with
with
the
revision
I'm
the
wrong
use
case
because
I've
been
around
chaos
for
so
long,
but
I
can't
find
things
where
they
used
to
be.
Somebody
moved
my
cheese
but
but
I
think
they're.
All
there
I
just
don't
have
an
objective
asset.
I
can't
be
objective
about
knowing
if
people
who
are
new
can
find
what
they're
looking
for.
A
C
C
E
A
Okay,
that'd
be
great
if
you
could
drop
that
in
here,
like
I'm,
not
part
of
me
is
like
I'm,
not
sure
how
we
would
even
organize
something
like
that.
How
I
don't
know
anyway.
This
is
it's
been
on
my
mind
like
organize
a
Sprint
like
the
auditor,
the
auditor
might
be
like
a
tool.
Is
that
is
or
is
it
like
kind
of
helping
with
the
process
by
which
we
would
do
it
then
yeah.
E
So
effectively
what
you
do
is
you
pull
a
site
map,
basically
where
it's
just
like?
Where
is
all
of
our
documentation?
Okay,
place
it
into
a
setup,
and
then
you
basically
have
in
a
airtable
database
or
something
like
that.
You
have
a
check
boxes
field,
basically
a
list
and
you
put
down
all
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
checked.
You
check
them
off
and
then
you,
cattle
categorize,
each
of
the
check
boxes
into
a
certain
set
of
points.
Okay
and
like
some
things,
are
more
important
to
fix
than
others
right.
E
So
you
categorize
the
check
boxes
into
points,
and
then
you
give
each
page
as
a
result
of
that
checklist,
a
score
and
then
once
you've
aligned
and
organized
that
score.
You
can
then
say
these
are
our
highest
change
requirements.
These
are
our
lowest
ones
and
then
you
go
through
so
like
one
example
is:
if
your
documentation
is
more
than
two
years
out
of
date,
check
off
more
than
two
years
and
that's
worth
Five
Points
gotcha.
A
F
Matt
I
generally
like
the
idea
of
a
Sprint,
though
that
would
basically
just
have
a
small
team
doing
the
salt
one
so
that
no
one's
left
going
through
and
trying
to
do
this
by
themselves,
because
I
feel
like
it
could
take
forever
slash.
If
we
kind
of
do
a
focused
effort
that
will
hopefully
those
things
along.
F
A
Well,
maybe
listening
through
it,
venue
was
proposing,
I
mean
if
we
could
get
a
map
of
our
documentation
and
then
a
priority
order
of
that.
That
would
help
kind
of
organize
something
like
a
Sprint
we'd
be
like
all
right.
This
print
is
taking
a
taking
on
all
of
the
what
level
tens
well
I,
don't
know
how
love
High
the
levels
go,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
like
we're.
Gonna
we're
gonna
address
these
over
the
course
of
the
next
three
days
and.
C
C
C
F
C
A
F
So
what
might
be
helpful
to
say
taking
this
view
of
the
site
map
and
then
also
like
I,
would
take
the
next
level
as
the
beyond
the
site
map?
Oh,
where
we
have
our
documents
and
which
ones
are
linked
and
which
ones
are
independent.
And
then,
when
we
go
through
the
exercise
of
rating
all
the
things
that
need
to
be
done
like
I
either
we
either
scope
it
to
have
everything
or
just
focus
on
the
site,
but
I
I.
F
E
A
E
Are
doing
the
indexing,
at
least
because
in
order
for
us
to
create
the
social
media
post
set,
we
need
to
provide
URLs
for
all
of
the
landing
pages.
Okay
to
all
the
metrics.
The
projects
stuff
like
that.
So
at
least
on
the
WordPress
side.
Just
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
put
together
a
social
media
engine
we've
already
put
together,
the
WordPress
URL.
A
List,
okay,
so
so
maybe
the
GitHub
side
of
things
is
what
remains:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
move
on
I,
just
I!
Do
wanna
I,
think
Enoch
put
this
on
and
so
I,
because
I
also,
we
need
to
talk
about
kscon
a
little
bit
too
so
Enoch.
Do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
badging
bot,
downtime
and
urgency.
D
D
There
was
a
downtime
in
the
in
the
in
the
tool
that
delivers
payload
of
the
web
hooks
the
GitHub
web
hooks,
which
we
use
in
the
budging
board
to
to
trigger
to
trigger
some
commands
to
trigger
checklists
and
almost
all
the
other
automations
and
doesn't
look
like
it's
going
to
be
up
at
least
in
a
defined
period
of
time
and
I
was
trying
to
look
at
other
options.
We
could
have
this
running
again
because,
like
I've
seen,
we
are
having
a
lot
of
applications
more
so
from
Linux
foundations.
D
Several
events
and
I
think
it's
necessary
that
for
those
that
have
applied
and
those
that
are
applying
can
have
their
budgets
as
soon
as
possible.
So
the
main
issue
is
GitHub
requires
to
have
to
have
a
URL
that
is
secured
and
also
that
is
static
so
that
it
delivers
that
kind
of
payload
there
to
trigger
the
other
automations.
But
for
now
the
only
static
URL
that
we
had
was
for
for
the
for
for
the
two
that
is
down
and
for
the
other
tools
that
I
try
to
check.
D
They
have
Dynamic
URLs,
which
of
course,
don't
work
with
the
GitHub
settings.
So
I
try
to
look
at
the
options
we
have
at
the
moment
and
I
tried
listing
them
down
there
to
see
whether
there
is
some
we
can
use
one.
There
is
a
tool
that
is
called
NG
Rook.
It
gives
you
access
to
like
having
a
static
URL,
that
you
can
connect
your
project
without
buying
a
domain,
but
it's
a
paid.
D
C
C
D
Yeah
so
well,
I
was
looking
at
having
a
subdomain.
Maybe
is
because
that
doesn't
need,
like
I
I,
don't
know,
but
I
thought
that
doesn't
Inc
or
we
don't
think
I'll
cost
for
creating
the
sub
domains.
We
already
have
the
domain
and
then
also
the
option
of
having
like
a
link.
A
separate,
dedicated
page
on
quest.community
also
doesn't
inquire
costs,
but
the
first
and
the
last
options
would
incur
some
costs
in
that.
D
D
D
A
D
A
B
Right
with
using
something
like
like
is
it,
it
looks
like
a
little
tiny
startup
company,
I
I
just
worry
about
some
of
these
services
that
they
tend
to
go
away.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
I.
Do
we
know
anything
about
this?
This
company
do
we
know
anything
about
the
longevity
of
this
particular
service.
B
B
C
Well,
I
know
we're
not
concerned
just
a
an
idea:
I
don't
know
if
this
is
good
or
not,
but
we
we
aim
to
use
ks.community
badging.cast.c
Community.
Meanwhile,
we
can
create
a
site
like
in
five
minutes
at
badging.ks.io
Enoch.
You
just
have
to
tell
me
what
you
need
to
be
behind
that,
whether
it's
a
WordPress
site,
whether
it
you
know
what
kind
of
control
do
you
have
a
couple
of
stuff,
upload,
stuff.
C
D
So
what
happens
is
if
we
use
angry
rock?
Is
it's
really
not
something
that
is
going
to
be
out
in
the
public?
It's
just
for
our
internal
or
just
for
our
internal
settings,
and
it's
only
visible
to
us
so
using
it
doesn't
expose
us
to
doesn't
expose
us
to
anyone
who
doesn't
have
admin
rights
like
they
won't
know
that
we're
using
NG
Rock
but,
of
course,
for
professional
issues.