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CHAOSS.Community.March.10.2020
A
A
A
I
know
that
you
only
have
a
half
hour
today
and
I
think
you've
talked
to
Georg
just
kind
of
about
where,
where
we're
at
just
came
kind
of
thinking
about
github
and
get
lab
and
how
that
can
play
hurt,
perhaps
in
the
in
the
project
and
they
it
sounded
like.
You
also
had
some
other
interests
that
you
had
chat
up
chatted
about
with
Georg,
and
maybe
you
can
talk
about
those
so
yeah.
C
Sure
so
I
think
that
this
also
started.
So
we
we
just
met
at
scale
and
we
I'm
also
part
of
the
genome
foundation,
and
so
I
was
actually
pretty
unfamiliar
with
the
Kaos
project
with
Horus
scale
and
so
I
sat
in
on
a
talk
and
got
to
see
some
of
the
cool
stuff.
That
Patricia
is
working
on
for
dashboards
for
Community,
Health,
metrics
and
I.
Guess
just
chaos
project
in
general,
yeah.
A
C
We
I
know
that
gnome
has
been
looking
for
something
like
that
for
a
long
time
and
was
hoping
that
gitlab
would
somehow
integrated
into
the
product
for
the
community
edition,
and
so
we're
just
in
beginning
stages
of
talking
about
it.
But
you
know
providing
my
position
here
is
about
helping
to
provide
more
value
to
our
open
source
projects,
so
that
you
know
get
lab
is
a
great
tool
for
lots
of
different
types
of
open-source
orgs.
So
I
would
like
to
evaluate
you
know
any
kind
of
integration
that
we
could
have.
C
So
that's
that
side
and
then
I
was
also
just
interested
in
getting
to
know
some
more
people
here
on.
You
know
who
are
part
of
the
cast
project
and
see
if
anybody
else
has
any
other
questions
for
me,
as
we
start
to
evaluate
my
I,
see
my
role
here
as
helping
you
get
the
information
you
need,
make
a
good
decision,
that'll
be
best
for
your
project,
cool.
A
C
So
we
haven't
had
our
first
meeting,
yet
we
just
literally
like
met
at
a
stand
and
said
whoa
we
are
in
need
of
measuring
the
health
of
our
community
and
being
more
data
driven
and
general
around
various
decision-making
processes.
So
it's
just
super
initial
toxin
I
know
that
you
stayed
longer
with
swegen
and
with
Shawn.
So
do
you
have
anything
else
to
add
about
the
details.
B
So
the
the
idea
that
we
were
talking
about
is
to
figure
out
what
the
metrics
are.
That
norm
is
interested
in
building
out
platform
and
visualizations
for
those
metrics
and
then
report
that
also
back
out
not
just
in
Rome,
but
also
to
chaos
and
get
maybe
KDE
and
other
foundations
involved
to
maybe
put
together
a
package
of
foundation
metrics
or
something
along
those
lines.
It's
still
in
early
stages,
and
our
meeting
is
on
Thursday
at
2
p.m.
Central.
C
I
think
it's
just
that
right
now,
I
know
we
don't
have
a
great
way
of
measuring
anything
beyond
like
some
contributions,
but
around
diversity
and
inclusion,
like
that's
an
initiative
that
we
just
started
last
year,
and
we
haven't
been
really
measuring
that.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
just
don't
have
the
tools
in
place
right
now
to
measure
so
the
idea
of
having
dashboards
and
of
first
figuring
out
what
it
is
that
we
want
to
measure
would
be
really
important.
Okay,.
A
Gotcha
and
so
Georg,
how
does
that
tie
in
with
the
foundation
view
like
I,
get
it
on
the
project
level
like
providing
insight
at
the
project
level?
So
what's
the
relationship
with
other
foundations,
so
I
gave
I
think
about
the
Linux
Foundation
right
they
host
whatever
two
hundred
some-odd
projects.
So
is
it
to
give
the
Linux
Foundation
information
on
the
projects
that
they're
brokering,
or
is
it
to
provide
the
projects.
B
These
are
the
metrics
that
you
can
look
at
why
you
want
to
look
at
them.
These
are
the
tools
that
you
can
use,
the
other
visualizations
you
and
the
foundation
can
start
using
that
no
I
don't
think
we
talked
about
whether
this
is
at
the
foundation
level
or
whether
this
is
for
the
individual
project
of
the
foundation.
Just
that
gnome
is
interested
in
this
and
maybe
there's
interest
in
KDE,
and
maybe
there
are
other
foundations
also
in
this
kind
of
package.
D
C
A
I
personally,
I
know
that
a
lot
of
whether
they're
open
source
foundations
or
say
even
sometimes
grant
agencies
that
broker
a
bunch
of
open
source
projects
or
at
least
fund
those
projects.
They
have
an
interest
in
kind
of
that
higher
level
as
to
how
the
projects
are
performing
and
what
they
look
like
over
time.
So
from
a
granting
perspective,
obviously
you
don't
want
to
be
funding
projects
that
just
kind
of
fail
over
the
course
of
a
year,
so
just
being
able
to
give
those
types
of
agencies
insight
as
well.
A
D
Know
I
think,
like
Matt
I,
think
the
point
you're
bringing
up
I
mean.
Maybe
it's
I
mean
this
is
a
bigger
topic.
It's
I
mean
not
just
for
a
foundation.
Maybe
this
is
you
know
this
makes
I
mean
we'll
have
to
make
our
you
know
releases
or
our
outputs
more
consumable,
so
people
can
kind
of
easily
figure
it
out,
because
I
mean,
like
you
said
like
what.
D
A
B
A
Yeah,
it's
a
it
would
be
a
slightly
different
working
group
because
it's
a
working
group
that
looks
to
assemble
the
metrics
in
a
way
that's
meaningful
for
a
particular
stakeholder
or
group
of
stakeholders,
which
is
not
how
the
working
groups
are
currently
assembled,
which
I
don't
think
it's
a
huge
problem.
But,
okay,
just
so,
you
know
if
you're
gonna
call
the
way
the
working
groups
are
assembled.
Is
we
have
five
working
groups
in
the
chaos
project,
so
they're
around
things
like
risk
is
one
of
the
working
groups.
A
Diversity
and
inclusion
is
one
of
the
working
groups,
value
common
and
evolution,
and
those
working
groups
assemble
metrics
kind
of
in
a
systematic
way
that
held
reveal
insights
with
respect
to
say,
diversity,
inclusion
or
reveal
insights
with
respect
to
the
evolution
of
a
project,
but
the
the
metrics
within
those
working
groups
aren't
necessarily
assembled
in
a
way.
That's
specifically
meaningful
for
a
set
of
stakeholders.
C
And
then
the
other
thing
that
we
were
talking
about
is
how
this
might
be
integrated
with
get
labid
and
by
that
I
don't
mean,
like
the
chaos
project
necessarily
moving
over
to
Jess.
But
you're,
do
you
know
a
little
bit
more
about
what
we
were
talking
about?
There
too,
is
like
part
of
yeah,
just
the
integration
below
so.
B
The
there
was
some
interest-
and
we
talked
about
this
last
week
here
on
the
call-
also
to
maybe
work
with
get
lab
to
get
some
of
the
metrics
that
have
to
find
and
make
them
available
to
get
lap
users
and
so
take
the
work
that
we've
done
on
defining
metrics
and
I.
Don't
know
how
to
get
them
in
to
get
lap
comm
or
whether
it
is
having
a
stronger
integration
with
our
tools.
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
we're
gonna
do
this.
Okay
and.
C
E
Yeah,
so
it's
interesting
because
I
cuz
as
we're
talking
about
integration
every
time
you
know
we
start
saying:
how
are
we
going
to
take
some
pieces
of
information
or
some
forms
and
move
them
into
different
platforms?
We
are
talking
about
web
platforms
most
likely,
and
you
know
there
is
a
battle
of
opinions
about.
How
do
you
make
components
for
the
web
and
basically
there's
the
you
know
reality
of
react
being
the
popular
opinion
versus
web
components
being
the
opinion
that
is
everywhere.
E
E
A
Thanks
Allah
right
so
I
think
that
listening
to
the
Oregon
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
hope
is
is
that
with
get
lab,
providing
a
weight
to
upstream
work
that
we
could
find
a
way
to
get
the
work,
that's
being
done
in
chaos
through
normal
channels
through
through
standard
contributions
to
start
seeing
some
of
that
work
in
in
the
get
lab
platform
and
that's
available
for
public
years.
That's
that's!
That's
kind
of
how
I'm
reading
this
and,
of
course,
not
asking
for
any
shortcuts.
D
Yeah
I
I
think
I
mentioned
this
last
week.
I
mean
you
know,
contributions
always
welcome,
but
just
with
the
caveat
that
most
of
our
code
is
in
Ruby,
so
there
might
be
some
challenges
there.
I
mean
I
mean
if
you
a
good
programmer
I
think
you
that's,
probably
not
a
huge
obstacle,
but
just
just
a
quick
FYI.
So
people
I
mean,
if
you're
more
comfortable
with
Python.
So
you
might
have
that
on-ramp
challenge.
F
E
So
so,
but
but
there's
an
important
distinction
between
what
you
do
in
the
back
end,
the
back
end.
Today
you
can
run
any
back-end,
I
mean
Java
is
bad
right.
So,
with
with
you
know,
docker-
and
you
know,
like
the
point-
VMs
means
that
your
back-end
code
can
stain
whatever
it
needs
to
be
in
and
and
what
you're
really
the
ambassador
that
goes
everywhere
today
is
front-end
code.
E
That,
basically
just
has
you
know
a
token
and
knows
where
the
backend
is
so
so,
if
you're
talking
about
making
this,
you
know
user,
you
know
user
facing,
then
we
are
really
just
talking
about.
How
are
you
going
to
put
the
interface
element,
the
UI
element-
and
you
know
that
faces
the
user
and
you're
not
really
talking
about
changing
back-end
technology,
just
scaling
it
and
and
and
definitely
get
lab
scales
a
lot
of
things
right,
so
so
I
mean
from
the
backend
that
does
solve
the
problem,
but
friend
front-end
wise.
E
You
don't
want
a
couple
further.
You
want
a
addy
couple
in
order
for
you
to
be
able
to
be
as
portable
as
possible.
You
know
so
so
yeah.
So
there
wouldn't
be
a
need
for
get
labs
front
and
to
do
anything
other
than
import
a
custom
element
as
a
JavaScript
module,
and
that
custom
element
would
basically
just
take
a
part
of
the
web
page,
and
it
will
contain
all
the
logic
encapsulated
away
from
everything
else.
C
Okay
and
I
try
to
take
some
notes.
So
if
you
can
take
a
look
and
make
sure
that
I
got
the
summary
of
that,
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
also
file
an
actual
ticket
on
get
lab
and
that
we
can
involve
you
all
in,
and
we
have
more
of
the
technical
discussion
there
to
know
so
that
people
can
weigh
in
from
engineering
and
product
I.
Think.
A
A
I
think
another
set
of
questions
that
has
been
coming
up
is
with
respect
to
deployment
and
how
that
deployment
or
the
change
might
look
like.
Is
it
all
at
once?
Is
it
over
time
kind
of
thing
so
trying
to
find
kind
of
try
to
get
comfortable?
With
with
that,
I
personally
expressed
my
own
views,
which
I
think
is
we,
the
chaos
project
lives
in
mostly
mostly
one
place
or
the
other
just
for
consistency,
sake
for
the
project,
so
anyway,
I
I,
don't
know
if
other
people
have
comments
on
this
again.
A
B
If
we
can,
maybe,
as
we
are
thinking
about
moving,
think
about
how
we
can
use,
it
laugh
features
to
improve
our
workflows
in
the
metrics
working
groups,
because
I
think
there's
potential
here
and
then
the
concern
from
Sean
was
about
switching
in
the
middle
of
outreach
in
Google
sandwiches
the
summer.
So
maybe
I
was
thinking
that
we
can
do.
Maybe
a
phased
approach
or
more
lab
is
the
one
that
really
wants
to
move.
They
can
start
exploring
the
features
we
can
learn
about
get
lab,
and
then
we
move
everything
else
after
we
have
some
experience.
A
D
D
C
C
C
Worked
with
this
is
admin
team,
so
anybody
who's
doing
any
kind
of
sysadmin
team
for
Kaos
or
missus
admin
work
and
then
I
think
he
also
tried
to
get
the
opinions
from
some
of
the
I
guess.
What
would
map
to
working
groups
here
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
somebody
involved
to
weigh
in
early
on
feedback
and
then
day,
together
kind
of
put
it
put
forth?
The
proposal
to
the
wider
community.
A
B
A
A
A
A
C
G
C
D
And
also
I,
don't
think
the
minutes
like
translate
one
to
one.
If
you
move
from
one
tool
to
another
I
mean
if
you
move
to
a
different
environment
it
might,
you
may
need
less
minutes
because
it's
faster
or
the
other
way
around,
so
just
as
an
FYI.
That's
what
I've
seen
from
projects
moving
to
different
like
sei
tools,
for
whatever
reason
based
on
their
environment.
It
just
works
faster
when
they
move
to
different
CI
or
vice-versa
so
like.
D
A
A
A
A
So
you
know
the
taking
some
of
the
dollars
that
come
from
Mozilla
and
using
those
dollars
to
actually
attend
the
conferences
to
to
help
kind
of
do
this.
Work
not
just
attend
and
talk
about
it,
but
actually
help
with
organizers
or
attendees
to
do
that.
Work,
mm-hmm
and
what
I'm
hoping
what
I'm
hoping
to
bring
to
Kaos
is
that
that
with
these
dollars,
we
could
do
some
some
matching
from
organizations
that
are
not
necessarily
involved
in
the
cast
project,
but
would
have
an
interest
in
in
kind
of
moving
these
efforts
forward.
A
All
right,
so
part
of
the
work
that
we
do
is
not
just
coming
up
with
the
metrics,
but
really
trying
to
get
them
into
practice.
And
sometimes
this
practice
requires
us
getting
out
there
and
doing
the
work
so
I'm
I'm
floating.
The
idea
here
of
of
matching
kind
of
like,
if
you
listen
to
public
radio,
you
know
like
the
matching
hour,
I'll
bring
a
dollar
and,
and
we
can
get
another
dollars.
You
know
it
unlocks
something
so
I
don't
know.
A
If
people
listen
to
public
radio
number
one
and
you
have
any
idea
what
I'm
talking
about
or
if
you
do
wasn't
a
public
radio,
what
you
think
about
kind
of
matching
these
dollars
that
are
coming
from
Mozilla
and
then
through
through
Sean
and
myself
thoughts.
People
have
I
would
have
to
articulate
what
those
dollars
are
being
used
for,
but
I
just
thought,
I'd
bring
it
here.
First.
A
A
The
idea
is
just
a
write
exactly
as
Gerrit
writing,
I
think
yeah
double
the
funds
to
do
this
work
and
these
would
go
these
matching
dollars
would
go
into
not
me,
but
they
go
into
community
bridge
right.
So
I
would
take
the
dollars
that
I
have
and
I
don't
know
if
I
would
give
donate
them
to
community
bridge
or
just
kind
of
keep
them
here.
But
then
the
matching
dollars
would
go
into
community
bridge.
B
It
sounds
bad
yeah,
I
think
I've
seen
this
with
other
open-source
foundations
or
projects
where
we
can
put
out
a
call
say
all
donations
made
during
the
next
month
will
be
matched
and
so
for
every
donation
that
comes
in
through
community
bridge.
You
just
make
a
matching
donation
from
your
mozilla
funds.
I'll
show
you
that
amount,
something
like
that.
Maybe
yeah
I
could.
A
I
could
probably
do
that
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
get
just
logistically
if
I
can
get
University
dollars
into
community
bridge.
Universities
maybe
like
that
makes
no
sense
to
me,
but
it
would
be
matched
kind
of
not
I
get
your
point.
But
if
you
make
a
donation
to
community
bridge
to
do
this
effort
that
we
would
match
funds
I
would
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
signal
that
yeah.
A
B
A
E
Versus
donated
because
it
is
pledged
when
you
get
money
that
goes
into
community
bridge,
you
can
pledge
by
by
the
authority
of
the
University
the
equal
amount
and
say
you
know,
this
is
the
pledged
amount
and
then
this
way
it's
visible
in
community
bridge
I,
don't
know
if
they
have
that
feature,
but
it
wouldn't
make
sense.
But.
E
B
A
Think
it's
certainly
worth
a
question
or
ways
that
we
can
signal
that
and
to
be
clear
too,
on
this,
like
the
money
we
would
pledge.
This
isn't
just
for
the
team
that
is
here,
I
mean
this
was
for
everybody
to
take
so
for
the
folks
that
are
in
the
DNI
working
group
and
making
those
efforts.
This
would
be
a
way
to
to
have
access
to
some
of
those
dollars
under
the
right,
somewhat
condition
that
you
talked
about
the
program
with
the
event
organizers.
A
E
A
A
Cool
all
right
I'll
seems
like
this
is
reasonable
for
folks.
I
will
start
following
through
on
this.
If
anybody
has
objections
you
can,
let
me
know,
I
guess
I'm
google
Summer
of
Code
and
outreach
e.
If
you
haven't
noticed
there
have
been
a
few
students
who
have
started
to
express
interest.
Google
Summer
of
Code
and
outreach
eat,
which
is
great,
it's
a
little
hard
to
keep
track
of
at
the
moment.
A
B
A
I'm
keeping
let's
track
I
on
it,
I
think
the
volume
is
a
lot
higher
I
think
with
google
Summer
of
Code
I
think
the
project
continues
to
go
up
and
then
out.
Ricci
I
think
I've,
seen
probably
maybe
ten
students
that
were
accepted
to
Hershey,
who
have
expressed
interest
in
a
variety
of
different
things.
G
A
E
I
can
I
file
on
that
one
other
thing,
I
think
I
think
you
know
seeing
that
people
are
coming
for
our
dashboards.
We
kind
of
want
to
have
a
dashboard
about
people
who
are
interning
and
the
timelines,
and
you
know
like,
like
yeah
I'm,
going
to
try
to
not
talk
about
the
level
of
stress
I
have
but
but
yeah
like
I
I
kind
of
like.
If
there
was
a
dashboard
that
says.
Ok,
you
will
expect
unexpected
emails.
A
E
Actually
proposing
to
help
with
the
dashboard
and
less
with
what
happens
when
you
look
at
it
right
so
I
I,
don't
mind,
organizing
things
so
that
the
chaos,
the
real
chaos,
not
the
all-caps
one
that
everybody
is
dealing
with,
is
better
and
I
don't
have
to
deal
with
chaos,
but
yeah
I
will
deal
with
chaos.
You
guys.
A
A
B
I
may
be
always
have
a
list
of
students
who
are
interested
in
it,
not
during
this
discussion
phase
two
community
engagement
phase,
but
once
they
submit
their
proposals,
we
ask
them
to
add
their
name
to
our
list
of
interested
students,
and
then
we
keep
track
because
we
have
asked
them
to
do
like
micro
tasks
and
we
need
to
keep
track
of
their
project
and
all
that,
so
this
interest
markdown
file
in
the
government's
folder
or
a
repo.
That
is
where
behalf
and
collecting
this.
B
A
E
So
so
the
PR
is
basically,
it
basically
becomes
the
point
of
contact
through
the
through
the
process
and
those
PRS
being
against
a
particular
repo
would
be
a
way
for
to
tell
us,
as
you
know,
everyone
in
the
project,
how
many
interested
students
and
how
you
know
how
each
one
of
them
is
is
faring
in
the
process
and
yeah.
So
so
it's
not
just
a
list,
but
also
a
you
know,
a
centralized
or
a
single
source
of
knowing
where
every
every
student
is
in
the
process.
E
B
I
have
a
thought
on
that
and
we
already
have
issues
for
all
of
our
project
ideas
and
be
direct
interested
students
through
those
issues
on
github
and
it's
a
list
of
eight
issues
or
so
what
we
can
do
is
go
to
the
community
dashboard
that
we
have
and
maybe
filter
out
those
issues
and
see
who
is
contributing
to
them.
So
that
might
be
a
simple
way
to
see.
Who
is
how
active
on
those
issues
or
he's
saying
hi?
It
will
not
get
students
showing
up
on
the
mailing
list.
E
E
So
we
just
don't
want
to
be.
Like
don't
email
me.
That's
not
like
the
right
way
to
do
this,
but
rather
to
tell
them
the
best
way
to
reach
you
know,
to
connect
and
get
feedback
is
through
a
process,
and
here
it
is
that
that
was
really
the
goal.
I
think
here,
because
when
you
get
a
point
of
contact
that
is
not
the
conventional
one
and
as
a
you
know,
it
basically
will
contain
content
or
or
questions
that
may
kind
of
challenge
you
to
answer.
E
A
Not
I
think
that's
fair,
let's
think
about
where
that
would
exist.
In
to
solace
point
I
mean
I
have
been
contacted
via
tagged
on
github
through
a
direct
message
through
email
directly
to
myself
through
emails
to
all
of
the
mentors.
So
there's
kind
of
been
four
different
ways
that
I've
been
contacted,
and
it
is
that's
a
little
it's
a
little
unwieldy.
Some.
E
A
And
I
think
we
have
the
structure
set
up
in
github
on
how
to
do
the
work.
Like
identify
the
tasks.
There
are
some
associated
macro
tasks
for
most
of
the
projects
when
you're
done
with
the
micro
tasks
issue
a
pull
request,
so
I
think
in
the
past.
We've
done
all
of
this
work.
It's
just
that
initial
funnel
to
get
them
to
continue
to
go
there
there,
meaning
the
github
repository.
A
B
So
there's
been
good
conversation
on
the
mailing
list,
so
thank
you.
Everyone
who
is
playing
in
one
of
the
comments
that
metroburg
said
is
the
editing
and
everything
is
a
lot
of
overhead
and
if
we
can
just
pay
someone
that
is
worth
every
penny
and
I
was
talking
also
with
the
folks
at
the
sustain
podcast
and
their
code
fund
podcast
network,
where
they
do
all
of
the
administrative
side
of
it.
B
We
just
have
to
record
the
part
caste
and
we
all
need
to
maybe
find
some
content
and
do
the
research
for
it
to
do
a
good
podcast,
but
then
they
take
the
audio
they
clean
it
up.
They
publish
it,
they
do
the
artwork,
they
do
the
everything
and
because
they
are
they
already
tied
into
the
code
fund
marketing
advertising
site.
They
have
a
pool
of
advertisers
who
pay
for
all
of
this.
B
They
just
add
at
the
front
and
at
the
end,
this
podcast
is
sponsored
by
our
friends
I
right
now,
it's
Linode
that
they
have
for
sustain,
but
something
along
those
lines.
It's
an
option.
I
just
wanted
to
I,
will
post
it
also
on
the
mainland.
This
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
it's
an
option
for
us,
so
we
would
just
have
a
declared
sponsor
on
the
podcast-
is
that
it
I
think
the
sponsor
can
change
between
episodes,
but
there
would
be.
B
But
the
key
thing
is
that
they,
the
code
fund,
podcasting
network,
they
take
all
the
pain
out
of
editing
it
and
taking
out
the
amps
and
pauses
and
putting
together
the
show
notes.
They
save
us
a
lot
of
time.
Yeah,
that's
the
main
thing
here
and
they
have
a
way
to
finance
that
so
we
don't
even
have
to
pay
for
it.
Then.
A
H
F
Said
a
lot
of
podcasts
in
the
past.
It
is,
it
is
super
painful
to
do
all
of
the
editing
and
make
them
actually
sound
professional,
so
I
think
any
any
solution
that
we
have
that
helps
with
that
yeah
Mike.
My
question
Garak
is,
is
the
sponsor?
Is
it
that
one
of
their
sponsors
that
gets
a
plug
and
their
sponsors
pay
for
this
program,
or
is
it
like?
Who
would
be
the
sponsor?
Do
we
know
that
so
right.
F
B
F
F
D
B
I
was
thinking
also
is
for
the
opening
sequence
for
the
artwork
and
so
on,
to
launch
call
for
participation
on
the
mailing
list
and
maybe
have
a
contest
and
have
people
submit
their
ideas
and
and
that's
what
I'm
thinking
right
now
and
then
I
would
like
to
record
the
pilot
episode
in
this
month.
Sometime
and
the
pilot
episode
would
be
just
with
the
panel.
So
I
would
also
like
to
put
together
a
panel
just
who
we
are.
Why
we
do
this.
B
A
F
B
A
B
D
D
F
Yeah
I
think
we're
probably
pretty
safe,
saying
that
it's
gonna
be
the
25th
whatever
that
day
after
is
and
I
think
we
can
just
probably
say
that
it's
in
Austin
and
we
can
nail
down
the
details
with
the
Linux
Foundation
I-
think
we
just
need
to
I
mean,
like
I
outlined
in
my
email,
a
couple
things
that
need
to
happen.
We
need
to
create
the
page
on
the
website
I.
Just
somebody
want
to
volunteer
to
work
with
Kevin
to
do
that
or
is
there
anything.
A
F
A
F
In
the
past,
angela
has
specifically
told
me
that
she
would
like
to
have
projects
like
us
on
site
on
the
you
know
on
the
days
that
you
know
that
all
the
other
things
are
happening,
and
she
has.
She
has
told
me
that
if
anyone
tells
you
know
for
a
room
to
escalate
it
to
her,
so
I
really
do
think
that
there's,
probably
not
gonna,
be
any
problem
with
us
getting
a
room.
The.
C
F
F
D
Could
be
an
experiment
that
failed
spectacularly
like
who
knows
right,
but
I
mean
I,
think
that's
the
only
risk
is
I'm
not
really
worried
about
the
room
either
it's
if
the
whole
event
is
canceled.
If
things
don't
die
down,
then
that's
the
big
risk
and
people
are
still
not
still
grounded
for
lack
of
a
better
better
word
so,
rather
than
sort
of
canceling
it.
If
the
summit
gets
canceled,
should
we
try
doing
it
virtually
and
and
see
how
it
goes?
D
F
That's
a
really
good
question:
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
to
think
of
the
virtual
events
I'm
getting
roped
into
a
few
of
them.
The
VMware
is
doing
one
that
they
want
me
to
give
a
talk
at
it's
like
a
24
hour
thing,
which
I
think
is
insane
and
I'm
just
gonna.
Do
my
part:
I,
don't
plan
to
stay
for
the
whole
24
hours,
ridiculous,
yeah,
I'm,
sure
it's
gonna
be
operated
by
different
people
in
the
different
different
regions.
But
the
idea
is
everybody,
and
you
know,
and
across
the
the
time
zones.
F
So
there
are
loads
of
these
virtual
events,
starting
to
kick
up
Google
next,
just
doing
theirs.
I
think
it's
free
actually
might
be
interesting.
As
we
learn
more
about
these,
we
could
decide.
My
my
gut
feel
on
the
virtual
events.
Is
that
I
don't
think
that
they're
gonna
work
particularly
well
right,
like
I,
don't
sit
in
this
chair
for
eight
hours
and
watch
presentations
like
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
whole
you
know
track.
This
is
the
way
we
do
a
conference,
but
were
you
gonna?
Do
it
sitting
on
your
butt
in
a
in
a
chair?
F
F
Let
people
watch
them
in
their
own
time
or
we
could
do
with
something
interactively
and
do
like
you
know
one
every
day
for
two
weeks
or
I
mean
there
are
lots
of
things
we
can
think
about.
I
think
I
think
right
now
we
should
assume
that
we're
gonna
be
there
face
to
face
at
the
event,
there's
a
chance
that
they
could
postpone
it
instead
of
canceling
it
like
they
did
with
Cuba
on
Amsterdam,
where
it's
gonna
be
postponed
until
July
or
August.
So
I
think
we
wait
and
see.
A
D
D
D
Yeah
I
mean
internally
we
had
our
like
all
employee
get-together
canceled,
that
was
to
be
in
two
weeks,
so
we're
organizing
something
like
slightly
differently
just
for
our
team,
not
the
whole
company.
So
we're
like
a
very
different
format.
We
have
break
so
that
people
can
walk
away
for
from
their
desk
and
all
that,
but
yeah
I'm,
just
throwing
that
out
there
I
don't
I
think
for
now.
F
I
have
to
say,
I
mean
I,
think
yeah
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
convinced
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
pull
this
off,
especially
not
in
the
US
they're.
Not
the
u.s.
is
not
handling
things
particularly
well
right
now,
compared
to
other
countries,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
happy
that
I
didn't
get
to
go
to
the
conference's
and
got
to
come
home,
because
things
are
a
lot
better
here
than
in
the
u.s.
yeah.