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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Call - 4-13-21
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A
The
recording
has
begun
welcome
to
the
april
13th
chaos
community
meeting.
Your
minutes
should
be
located
in
your
chat.
B
And
if
anyone
needs
them
just
give
a
shout
we're
happy
to
post
those
again
and
if
you
have
not
put
your
name
in
the
minutes,
we
would
appreciate
if
you
did
so,
if
you
felt
like
it,
we
do
like
to
see
who's
coming
to
the
meetings
and
things
like
that.
So
we'd
appreciate.
If
you
would
log
yourself,
we
have
a
short
agenda,
only
a
few
items
on
here,
so
we'll
we'll
bust
through
these
pretty
quickly.
I
think
that's
now
we'll
just
start
with
number
one,
which
is
the
dni
badging.
B
So
matt
snell
asked
me
to
just
mention
in
the
meeting
today,
since
he
can't
be
here.
They
are
releasing
not
it.
I
would
say
if
the
badging
initiative
was
versioned.
This
would
be
version
1.1
they're,
making
some
improvements
to
some
of
the
questions
and
some
clarifications
based
on
what
we've
experienced
so
far
with
processing
applications.
B
So
it's
not
a
huge
change
to
the
initiative,
but
it
is
kind
of
a
phased
improvement.
So
congratulations
to
that
whole
team
on
just
processing,
so
many
applications
that
we
even
have
a
base
from
which
to
work.
I
mean.
C
B
That's
pretty
awesome,
so
I
think
to
sum
up
just
some
of
the
just
as
an
example
of
some
of
the
improvements
that
are
made.
For
instance,
we
ask
if
events
are
displaying
their
demographic
information
for
speakers
and
attendees
and
for
some
events
this
is
the
first
year
so
that
question
kind
of
doesn't
super
apply,
so
just
for
as
an
example
of
of
things
like
that
that
we've
seen
that
we're
going
to
kind
of
just
tweak
a
little
bit
so
so
congratulations
to
matt
snell
and
the
team
for
working
so
hard.
B
On
that
I
mean
all
the
reviewers
are
doing
an
amazing
job
if
you
have
not
seen
the
any
of
the
applications.
It's
a
super
interesting
thread
to
read.
If
you
have
a
moment
and
you're
curious
as
to
what
things
we
ask
and
how
those
go,
you
can
go
to
github
and
just
do
slash.
Badging
and
you'll
see
event
badging
initiative
there
and
click
on
that,
and
you
can
go
to
some
of
the
closed
pr's
or
the
open
ones,
but
the
closed
ones
are
the
ones
that
have
gone
through
the
process
completely.
B
So,
oh
thanks
matt
for
dropping
the
the
link
in
the
chat,
but
it's
it's
really
very
interesting
to
see.
You
know
how
we
approach
things
and
and
the
conversations
that
go
back
and
forth.
So
is
there
any
questions
I
should
say:
are
there
any
questions
on
this.
D
No
questions
I
just
would
echo
your
congrats
to
all
it's
just
really
nice
to
see
this
getting
the
traction
that
it's
getting
super
cool.
B
We
are
going
to
be
tweeting
about
that.
I
think
nicole's
working
on
a
social
tile
for
us
and
we
one
of
our
recent
groups,
I
guess
of
of
events-
has
been
all
the
kubecon
for
anyone
who
missed
it.
We
had
this
discussion
last
week,
but
we
have
badged
all
of
the
events
and
the
the
well
we've
we
batched
kucon,
but
also
all
of
the
other
events
that
kind
of
are
attached
to
that,
which
is
a
lot
I
think,
maybe
12
total.
B
So
that
was
a
lot
of
work
and
they're
doing
a
fantastic
job,
so
just
want
to
give
them
a
shout
out
as
well.
E
D
I
don't
I
honestly
don't
maybe
we
talked
about
this
last
week
too,
but
I
just
don't
see
how
that's
going
to
scale
right
now
we
may
have
to
like
personally,
I'm
kind
of
putting
that
one
aside
for
a
little
bit
like
doing
events
has
been
enough
just
from
a
human
perspective
so
far
like.
I
can't
even
imagine
opening
it
up
to
projects
at
the
moment.
A
F
Trouble
with
the
data
collection
piece
on
the
project
that
with
events
you're
talking
about
known
populations
and
published
populations,
whereas
projects
they'd
have
to
go,
gather
that
and
there's
still
a
fair
amount
of
controversy
with
the
best
ways
to
gather
demographic
and
information
around
projects,
especially
with
the
debate
of
remaining
anonymous
or
not.
So
I
think
it
gets
a
little
bit
sensitive
and
hairier
so
for
not
prepared
to
tackle
that
yet
either.
I
would
say
it's
two
reasons
to
not
do
that.
B
And
also
with
projects
they
would
require,
I
would
imagine
you
know,
periodic
updating
and
reapplying,
and
so
with
events.
It's
a
lot
of
events
do
happen
year
after
year,
but
sometimes
not
and
so
at
least
it's
like
one
and
done
it's
like
a
constrained
thing,
that's
gonna
happen
and
then
be
done
and
then
maybe
it'll
come
back
next
year.
Maybe
it
won't
so
yeah
agreed
on
that
point.
Matt.
B
Rock
on
we
shall
move
forward.
I
dropped
this
next
item
in
there
just
to
bring
people
awareness
to
make
sure
people
knew
that
the
mostly
the
all
things
open
cfp
closes
pretty
soon.
It
closes
april
30th.
So
if
you
are
considering
applying
for
that
or
putting
in
a
proposal
for
that,
then
you
should
probably
do
that
sooner
than
later,
and
then
we
also
have
osseu
and
then
ospo
con,
which
is
attached
to
ossu.
So
just
some
other
points
of
note.
I
know
we
have
talked
about
it
a
few
times
in
these
meetings.
B
If
people
would
like
to
submit
papers
for
that
or
proposals
for
speaking
at
those
events,
so
I
don't
think
chaos
has
a
strict
like
process
for
that.
I
think
we
it's
pretty
open
like
whoever
wants
to
submit
something
they
can.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
like
procedures
or
anything
like
that,
so
feel
free
to
do
that,
you
don't
have
to
check
you,
don't
have
to
have
our
permission
to
do
that
as.
C
F
G
A
D
B
D
Yeah,
I
don't
know
we
could
figure
it
out.
We
don't
even
have
to
figure
out
the
topic
right
here
and
right
now,
but
yeah.
D
C
D
That's
me
so
we're
starting
to
get
a
lot
of
things
on
the
chaos
calendar
like
it's
basically
just
full
all
day.
So
should
we
have
a
couple
because
I
like
having
the
chaos
calendar
on
my
calendar,
but
it
does
block
a
lot
of
stuff,
so
I'm
wondering
like
if
we
sean
like,
if
you
had
auger
things,
would
you
ever
want
and
chaos
colon
auger
calendar
or
do
people
just
want
to
keep
it
all
in
one?
I'm
just
sorry
because
it
seems
like
it's
filling
up
like
it's
getting
pretty
full.
A
B
It's
also
helpful
if
you're
trying
to
play
in
something
around
like
when
the
chaos
community
zoom
link
is
open.
So
if
you
need
to
pop
up
an
ad
hoc
meeting
or
something
you
kind
of
know,
if
it's
already
being
used
for
something
else,
so
you
don't
like
bust
in
on
someone
else,
so
we
shot
down
your
idea
matt.
No,
it
was
just
it
was.
A
Mad
at
all
of
you,
I'm
so
mad,
so
so
I
will
tell
you
what
I
do
is
the
chaos
events
that
I
know
that
I'm
going
to
participate
in
like
the
meetings
and
things
I
make
a
copy
of
them
on
my
own
personal
calendar
from
the
chaos
calendar
and
then
I
turn
the
cast
calendar
on
and
off.
As
as
I
need
to
look
at
it.
That
makes
it
easier
for
me
because
I
do
I
do
like,
and
I've
got
calendar
for
my
children
calendar
for
my
wife
calendar
for
my
research.
F
One
thought,
as
I'm
just
thinking
there
without
so
splitting
up
in
a
multiple
calendar,
means
that
you
can
color
code
and
organize
it
turn
things
off
and
on,
but
keep
it
as
one
calendar.
We
could
come
up
with
a
consistent
naming
so
that
either,
if
it's
like
a
breakout
or
work
value
or
a
working
group
meeting
versus
another
kind
of
meeting
or
other
kind
of
event,
if
we
have
a
common
lead-in
that
is
consistent
across
different
kinds
of
meetings,
then
maybe.
F
To
filter
and
parse
here,
because
looking
at
the
calendar
not
right
now,
not
even
the
cross-working
groups,
are
the
events
labeled
the
same.
So
if
there's
consistency
in
like
say,
community
meeting
versus
even
working
working
group
meeting,
then
maybe
it'll
be
a
little
bit
less
toil
to
have
so
many
events
on
it.
B
D
B
E
D
A
A
Yes
go
ahead,
I
mean,
let's
I
mean
I
haven't
seen
any
of
you
in
face-to-face
in
over
a
year.
So
like
a
chaos
social
hour,
there's
the
the
journal
of
open
source
software
created
a
social
like
a
happy
hour
gathering
which
is
at
6
00
a.m,
central
time,
obviously
a
european-centered
event,
but
I'm
like
well
it's
on
a
friday
and
I'm
from
wisconsin.
So.
B
D
B
D
No,
I
think
this
is.
I
think
this
has
worked
well,
but
we
could
add
it
like
in
half
this
hour,
but
it
it'll
probably
end
up
just
being
another
meeting
all.
B
D
B
Are
we
good
mm-hmm
good
number
four
google
summer
of
code
ends
today?
Yes,.
A
B
A
B
A
Mean
I'll
say
for
metric
stories,
we've
done
with
auger,
I
don't
know
six
or
seven
for
different
project
groups
and
organizations
and
usually
it's
the
our
visualization
api,
and
then
we
put
them
into
some
kind
of
google
powerpoint
and
share
them
to
incorporate
the
whole
story,
and
they
usually
can
you
share
those
in
a
certain
way
with,
like
I
mean
I
can
share
links
to
some
of
them,
yeah
yeah.
I
think
I
have.
I
have
permission
from
kate
stewart
to
share
hers.
A
D
C
A
Yeah
anonymization
adds
a
layer,
so
I
would
be
appreciative
of
not
having
to
add
a
layer
of
work.
D
D
D
Here's
a
collection
of
metrics
that
you
might
want
to
keep
your
eyes
on
early
in
the
process
or
you're
thinking
about
joining
a
project
from
a
corporate
perspective
where
you're
going
to
leverage
the
source
code
into
a
product
that
you're
selling
here's.
Maybe
a
few
things
that
you
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
your
whatever
the
scenarios
might
be,
and
just
kind
of
orienting
people
a
little
bit
to
those
collections
of
metrics
right
looks
like
sean
has
a
few
stories
that
we
might
be
able
to
start
with.
D
C
A
A
I
mean
that's
that's
what's
on
the
dashboard,
but
when
people
want
stories
they
want
a
composite
story
that
accumulates
and
often
these
are
some
of
these
are
one
metric,
but
several
filters
applied
to
the
metric
so
like
in
the
case
of
pull
requests
each
of
each
like
there's
a
few,
at
least
in
there
that
are
a
single
metric,
but
they
have
different
filters
around
time
and
whether
the
pull
request
was
successful
or
not
applied
to
them.
So
distinguishing
between
this
is
a
composite
metric.
This
is
a
metric
with
these
filters
applied.
A
That
would
be,
you
know
a
step
to
formalization
of
these
kinds
of
things,
so
that
the
link
directly
back
to
the
chaos
metrics
that
are
contributing
and
which
filters
are
applied
is
more
explicit.
Obviously
the
audiences
for
these.
These
these
stories
haven't
cared
about
that,
but
if
we're
gonna
put
it
on
a
website,
I
think
it's
really.
It
would
be
helpful
to
indicate
this
is
a
composite
of
these
metrics,
or
this
is
this
metric
with
these
filters
applied
with
with
these
values.
D
A
So
the
first
question
that
comes
to
my
mind
is,
I
think,
in
whatever
way
that
makes
it
sort
of
quick
to
find,
or
you
know
so
perhaps
it's
a
featured
story
on
on
the
website.
That's
you
know
like
here's
like
I
don't
know.
If
we
have
a
rotating
banner,
I
can't
remember
our
website
and
I
don't
want
to
switch
off
it
because
I'm
sharing
my
screen,
but
you
know
this
would
be
a
case
where
maybe,
like
a
rotating
banner
type
of
front
like
right
now
we
have
community
health.
A
We
have
kind
of
like
one
big
image
I
just
opened
in
a
different
browser
and
there's
a
pretty
easy
wordpress
plugin.
That
would
let
us
like
rotate
several
things,
and
one
of
them
could
be
example,
metrics,
because
I
think
I
think
more
than
I
don't
think
people
are
going
to
like
poke
around
and
navigate
and
find
something
like
that.
D
Okay,
could
we
would
it
make
sense
to
do
also
tie
that
to
like
a
regular
cadence
with
twitter,
where
we,
you
know
kind
of
like
what
you
have
the
chaos
weekly?
You
know
like
here's,
a
chaos,
metric
story,
hey
done
right
now,
yeah
would
it
you
know
what
I
mean
like.
A
A
D
A
Yeah,
I
think,
and
then,
if
you
do
the
rotating
banner
kind
of
thing
and
tweet
it,
then
I
think
preferably
a
blog
post
is
the
is
sort
of
the
best
medium
to
have
that
image
that
you
click
on.
Take
you
to
okay,
so
we're
not
trying
to
maintain
a
bunch
of
organized.
I
mean
to
me:
blog
post
means
content,
but
it's
not
organized
and
curated,
and
so
it
saves
us
a
bunch
of
work
trying
to
manage
that
over
time.
F
A
E
A
Yeah
I
like
that
idea,
because
then
it
gives
some
it.
You
can
also
have
a
link
that
then
back
to
the
podcast.
There's
like
a.
I
don't
know
what
we
call
like
brand
insertion
in
a
movie
where
somebody's
drinking
a
coca-cola
like
we,
we
referenced
the
blog
post
and
then.
A
D
H
I
think
we're
getting
ahead
of
ourselves
a
little
bit
so
the
the
methods
for
sharing
these
and
the
you
know
website
banners
and
things
like
that
are
kind
of
trivial.
I
think
the
the
the
problem
with
this
is
actually
generating
the
initial
content.
These
stories,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
where
we
need
to
focus
right
now.
A
H
For
so
I
I
think,
if
the,
if
the
stories
are
coming
from
from
users
or
from
just
people
in
general,
then
we
kind
of
need
to
deconstruct
them
to
put
them
into
the
context
of
chaos
metrics
right.
So
if
we're
just
if
they're
just
coming
in
that
way,
we
need
to
deconstruct
them
if
we
provide
them
a
dashboard
and
ask
them
to
say
you
know
what
does
this
mean
to
you?
Then
the
then
the
chaos
context
is
is
already
there.
H
H
Categorizing
them
on
the
website
is
fairly
trivial
or
or
tweeting
them,
or
so.
A
A
Sorry,
one
of
the
things
one
of
the
things
we
do
with
auger
is,
I
embed.
We
embed
the
caption
for
each
visualization
in
it,
so
constructing
a
story
that
follows
the
caption
and
essentially
interprets
the
data
they're
kind
of
like
almost
written,
and
it's
just
a
question
of
putting
a
beginning,
a
middle
and
an
end
around
it
and
and
the
beginning
is.
Why
are
we?
A
A
So
the
the
the
so
every
story
has
a
beginning,
a
middle
and
an
end,
and
the
end
is:
what
are
the
actions
that
a
group
that
you
know
had
this
story
told
or
told
the
story
took
as
a
result
of
having
a
clearer
understanding
of
their
community.
A
B
If
we're
gonna
say
this
is
something
we're
doing
on
the
regular
that
would
you
know
or
or
is
the
idea
that
we're
gonna
get
others
to
guest
post
on
the
blog
to
tell
their
own
stories.
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
I
mean
I
think
I
can
go
back
to
the
six
or
seven
that
we've
done
and
you
know
up,
update
them
and
see
if
there's
permission
to
to
on
us,
do
a
story
and
put
it
in
a
frame.
And
it's
it's
relatively
little
work,
because
we've
we've
got
a
system
for
generating
everything
except
the
narrative.
D
And
the
series
can
be
really
short,
so
I
just
wrote,
yeah,
beginning
middle
and
end
the
beginning
is
the
context,
that's
hoping
to
be
better
understood
right.
So
just
really
simply
this
is
we're
trying
to
to
gain
a
better
understanding,
because
we
are
a
company.
That's
looking
to
leverage
this
open
source
in
the
products
that
we
sell,
like
just.
C
D
Very
high
level
that
might
be
too
high
level,
but
just
a
very
high
level
kind
of
narrative
to
capture
people's
attention
and
then
the
middle,
not
exactly
the
story
format,
but
the
middle
is.
These
are
the
metrics
that
can
help
reveal
not
perfectly
but
help
again,
move
us
off
zero
to
gain
insight
with
respect
to
this
particular
context
right
in
the
end,
and
then
the
end
is
to
sean's
point
now
that
we
have
this
once
you
get
this
information,
what
do
you?
What
do
you
do
with
it?
Why
does
it
matter
yeah?
D
H
So
a
little
while
back,
I
had
mentioned
that
I
kind
of
saw
the
community
reports
as
a
platform
where
we
could
do
this
right.
A
H
So
we
could
actually
build
some
of
this
into
the
current
community
report
form
so
that
part
of
the
narrative
is
automated
when
they
request
it,
and
then
we
could
create
a
follow-up
form
that
would
kind
of
ask
them
some
questions
about
use.
That
would
further
help
us
automate
the
creation
of
something
like
this.
H
D
A
Yeah,
I
think
you're,
okay,.
D
D
You
know,
I
guess
today,
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
is
you
know
oftentimes
in
this
context.
We
at
least
I
do
I
have
it.
D
I
get
located
in
the
conversations
that
we
have
with
organizations
and
people
who
are
pretty
skilled
when
it
comes
to
open
source
right
they're,
pretty
far
along
just
part
of
me
today
was
thinking
there.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
organizations
a
lot
of
people
that
just
don't
even
know
where
to
begin
like
they
just
this
is
really
difficult,
and
you
know
if
we
talk
like
about
some
really
deep
levels
of
involvement
or
engagement,
that
some
of
these
really
long-term
committed
organizations
to
open
source
have
like.
Sometimes
those
conversations
are
pretty
overwhelming.
D
I
think
they
just
want
to
know
like
I
just
want
to
use
open
source
in
my
company
and
not
have
it.
You
know
like
bite
me
later,
because
I
wasn't
looking
at
the
license
like
just
really.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
my
developers
are
doing
the
right
thing
right.
So
what
should
we
be
looking
at
in
that
regard,
like
so
sometimes
part
of
me,
is
like
we
need
to
think
about
these
stories
for
organizations
and
people
who
are
really
still
pretty
new
to
this.
B
Matt,
are
you
seeing
a
correlation
between
this
concept
and
those
tool
kits
that
you
we
had
talked
about
a
long
time
ago
and
that
we
kind
of
wanted
to
provide
for
the
community
to
help
them
figure
out
where
to
start.
D
Is
nothing
not
like
necessarily
the
epicenter
of
high-tech
organizations,
but
it's
a
lot
of
organizations
that
rely
heavily
on
technology,
and
so
many
of
the
organizations
in
the
city
are
using
open
source,
perhaps
unbeknownst
to
them
in
many
different
ways.
Yes
right,
it's
almost
certainly
the
case
yes
and
so
like.
D
How
do
we
help
organizations
like
that
even
start
crossing
the
threshold
to
be
conscious?
You
know
very
more
deliberately
engaged,
I
should
say,
with
open
source
like
what
are
the
things
that
they
should
be
keeping
their
eyes
on.
I'm
not
just
talking
about
companies
here
in
omaha,
that's
just
an
example,
and
that's
a
different
group
of
companies
that
we
talk
to
like
the
the
different
group
of
companies
that
are
attending
open
source
summit,
north
america
or
the
memberships
on
it.
D
That's
a
sometimes
a
very
different
group
of
companies,
but
we're
all
kind
of
in
this
giant
boat
together
and
different
people
are
in
different
spots,
and
I
think
sometimes,
if
we
keep
talking
about
if
we
keep
speaking
the
language
of
all
the
folks
that
are
in
say
the
member.
C
D
A
They're,
the
the
organizations
that
are
using
open
source
in
their
environment,
so
they
probably
want
to
understand
just
what
what
open
source
projects
do
they
have
that
are
several
versions
behind
what
the
current
release
is
or
right.
It's
because
the
open
source
stuff
is
embedded
in
things
that
they're
purchasing.
B
So
I'm
hearing
a
little
bit
different
viewpoints
here,
so
this
started
talking
about
running
reports
essentially
for
open
source
projects
to
help
them
be
healthier
and
have
a
better
feel
for
what
they're
doing
what's
going
on
in
their
communities,
their
own
level
of
engagement
and
their
own
level
of
activity,
and
things
like
that.
But
then
there's
this
other
piece
that
is
for
on
the
company
side
of
those
who
are
using
open
source.
So
with
those
two
things
like,
are
they
in
the
same
like?
Are
they
the
same?
Are
they
different?
B
I
feel
like
they're
different
and
they
are
different
goals.
Unless
the
ultimate
goal
is
to
increase
corporate
engagement
in
open
source
across
the
board,
then
maybe
that's.
If
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do,
I
guess
I
guess
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
why
we're
doing
this
like
we
want
to
help,
but
like
what
what's
the
end
goal
like?
What's
the
goal
that
we're,
if
we
do
the
goal,
question
metric
approach,
what's
the
goal
that
we're
trying
to
solve
here
or
to
figure
out.
D
So
are
the
two
things
you're
hearing
elizabeth?
Is
it
like
how
to
help
a
community
get
a
better
understanding
about
themselves
like
one
and
then
number
two
is
as
organizations?
Mine
was
a
corporate
example,
but
any
organization,
that's
looking
to
engage
with
open
source
questions
that
they
might
have,
and
that's
kind
of
case
number
two.
Is
that
right.
H
I
don't
want
to
confuse
the
issue,
but
I
think
we
actually
have
to
add
a
third
thing
to
that
as
well,
and
that
is
as
chaos
we
are
in
the
we
we
are
identifying
and
defining
metrics
and
that
that
should
always
be
a
goal
in
what
we're
doing,
and
through
these,
these
outreach
programs
or
initiatives
the
building
dashboards,
getting
these
user
stories.
H
Those
interactions
create
validity
for
what
we're
doing
right.
So
we
we
can
figure
out
what
metrics
are
important
through
these
stories
and
they
help
us
define
and
identify
metrics
as
well.
D
So
elizabeth,
I
don't,
I
see,
I
see
your
point
and
maybe
it's
without
like
a
lame
answer
like
it's
both,
but
maybe
it's
both
right,
but
maybe
we
can't
do
both
at
one
time
right
so,
like
our
first
ask
is
how
do
we
help
communities
gain
a
better
understanding
here
are
the
things
that
you
might
want
to
like.
Let's
just
start
there
first
right
and
then,
if
that
goes
well,
then
the
next
is,
as
organizations
are
seeking
to
participate
here.
Are
the
things
to
look
here?
D
B
F
Maybe
I'm
getting
too
meta
here,
but
it
seems
like
that's
a
story
to
itself
and
not
necessarily
it
would
have
an
example
that
waved
it
through,
but
I
really
liked
kevin's
point
of
that's
what
grounds
this
project
and
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish,
and
I
think,
building
stories
around
how
people
use
metrics,
there's
always
going
to
be
context
of
who
they
are.
What
they're
trying
to
do,
whether
or
not
they're
in
a
corporate
setting
or
project
setting,
but
metrics
is
the
common
language
in
between
them.
So
I
think
it's.
It's
almost.
F
I
want
to
say
explain
the
value
that
metrics
can
provide
to
these
different
types
of
settings,
but
it
might
need
to
be
introduced.
I
think
just
kind
of
starting
with
the
story
as
an
example,
but
you'd
have
to
have
some
context
in
there,
so
I
feel
like
it
might
be
again
if
you're
trying
to
provide
more
of
a
basic
introduction
for
those
that
are
less
familiar
with
why
these
things
are
important.
F
A
B
Story
and
to
the
point
of
georg
and
the
podcast
link,
so
I
know
that
we
are
trying
to
get
one
of
the
people
who
have
submitted
a
bunch
of
applications
to
kind
of
talk
about
that
process
and
things.
But
I
think
that's
that's
another
use
case
right
is
how
they're
using
metrics
to
inform
how
they
put
on
an.
D
D
G
A
We
are
yeah
we're
at
a
minute
over
time,
but
it's
it's
been
a
great
discussion
here
at
the
end
and
all
throughout
good
recovery.