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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Call - September 19, 2023
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Minutes from this meeting can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMDWc6xMe0fNE7shxTK5_HE_ykRBG5w55_Zx5hvzsEY/edit?pli=1#heading=h.8akj30j1qmov
A
Hey
everybody:
it's
Tuesday,
September
19th
and
I'm
Elizabeth,
the
community
manager
for
chaos,
good
to
see
some
new
faces
here
today
and
also
I
will
say
old
faces
because
I,
that's
yeah,
that's
a
different
connotation
and
I.
Don't
want
to
do
that
so
some
faces
that
we've
seen
before
we'll
say
that
I'm,
probably
the
oldest
facing
on
this,
but
anyway,
whatever
yeah.
So
this
is
the
weekly
Community
call
for
chaos.
A
Quick
reminder
for
those
who
might
be
new
is
that
this
is
under
the
chaos
code
of
conduct.
So
keep
that
in
mind,
as
you
interact
with
us
today
and
as
you
can
tell,
we
do
not
care
if
you
have
your
cameras
on
or
off.
This
is
a
super
chill
meeting,
because
we
are
a
super
chill
group,
so
you
are
welcome
to
interject
at
any
time.
You
can
raise
your
hand.
You
can
chat
with
us
over
on
the
side,
we'll
try
to
incorporate
that
into
the
flow
of
the
meeting.
A
A
A
So
I
appreciate
you
all
very
much
yes
and
I
know
I
said
I
was
gonna
paint,
my
bathroom
while
I
was
gone
because
for
those
who
don't
know
it's
been
half
painted
for
like
six
months,
just
like
the
part
I
could
reach
and
I
didn't
quite
get
done.
I
still
didn't
go
and
get
done.
It's
the
ADHD
part
of
me,
but
I
did
get
other
things
done
that
have
been
on
my
list
for
legitimately
six
years.
There
was
something
I
got
done.
A
Don't
you
know
we
don't
we
try,
but
we
don't
I,
think
there
are
parts
of
the
US
that
do
have
switched
I
heard
this
somewhere
there's
somebody
is
trying
so
shout
out
to
them
whoever
they
are
yeah,
so
first
off
and
foremost
I,
don't
think
Don's
here
because
she's
at
osseu,
but
we
just
want
to
say
a
huge
congratulations
to
Don
for
being
our
new
co-chair
of
our
chaos
board
and
also
a
big
old.
Thank
you
to
Nicole,
who
has
been
in
that
position
the
past
two
years,
so
don
joins
Sean
Goggins.
A
C
A
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
that,
as
we
mentioned,
OSS
EU
is
currently
going
on.
There
are
some
talks
that
are
chaos
related
or
of
interest
to
the
chaos.
Community
I
did
not
go
through
and
see
which
ones
have
already
happened.
So
apologies
for
that,
but
you
can
attend
virtually
one
and
we
do
have
a
a
workshop
happening
Thursday,
and
this
is
the
topic
of
that.
So,
if
anybody
is
I,
don't
think
that
I.
A
C
C
B
B
C
C
A
F
A
A
A
Got
you
got
you
so
yeah,
so
if,
as
struggled
with
this
in
the
past
of
having
a
good
process
for
kind
of
promoting
these
talks
within
our
community
and
outside
of
our
community,
so
I
don't
know
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
to
that
is.
But
if,
for
the
meantime,
if
there
are
folks
who
are
giving
talks,
let
me
know
we
can
put
them
here.
We
can
talk
about
them
in
the
community.
A
No
all
right,
we
are
flying
through
the
agenda
like
a
jet
I,
don't
know,
as
the
first
thing
that
came
to
my
mind
is
something
fast,
so
yeah
yeah,
Ruth,
I,
oh
before
you
go
Ruth
I
just
wanted
to
say
we
I
want
to
do
this
as
a
regular
thing.
Part
of
our
survey
results
from
our
community
survey
was
that
the
chaos
Africa
other
communities
feel
a
little
separate
from
the
main
chaos.
A
So
an
attempt
to
kind
of
bridge
that
Gap
a
little
I'm
Gonna
Leave
space
for
every
community
meeting
for
Ruth
or
whoever
it
happens
to
be
around
in
the
chaos
Africa
community.
Just
to
give
us
an
update,
what's
going
on
so
I
know,
sometimes
we
don't
always
hear
what's
going
on
there
and
we
should.
We
would
like
to
so.
B
F
Or
kind
of
two
things
I
want
to,
amongst
all
the
awesome
stuff
going
on,
so
we
are
going
to
be
collaborating
with
Angola
and
open
source
Department
that
they
are
organizing
and
I'm
going
to
drop
it
in
soon
the
hackathon,
the
organizing
me
for
Oktoberfest
will
be
collaborating
with
them.
They
reached
out
one
of
their
the
founders
of
the
community,
Antonio
joint
chaos,
Africa
I,
think
in
months
or
two
months
ago.
So
you
kind
of
like
reached
out.
F
You
know
there
were
trying
to
look
for
Partners.
You
know
funds
and
all
that
stuff,
so
I
chatted
with
him
and
I
also
chatted
with
maths,
and
we
decided
to
kind
of
like
also
partner
with
them
and
provide
some
funds
that
they'll
be
needing
for
this
hackathon.
It's
going
to
be
in
person.
It's
an
in-person
hackathon
I
do
plan
to
travel,
but
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
the
Visa
getting
a
Visa
there,
so
we'll
be
collaborating
with
them.
F
That's
our
dropping
link
when
I
find
the
link
to
the
upcoming
the
did
an
announcements
on
LinkedIn,
so
I'm
going
to
drop
everything
soon
to
that
and
then
another
cool
thing
which
I
think
is
really
cool:
digital
co-pilot
grants.
We
got
the
Grant
from
with
the
copilot
some
months
back
to
develop
stories
on
how
Africans
are
using
GitHub
co-pilots,
and
we
came
up
with
three
stories.
But
there's
just
one
I
highlighted
there.
F
F
So
this
is
one
of
the
end
products
of
that's
grants
that
we
got
so
we
built
this
website.
Some
developers
and
ksr
previewed
this
website
we're
trying
to
host
it,
get
the
domain
name
and
host
it.
But
basically
this
website
is
going
to
be
a
chaos
Africa
only
project
where
people
can
submit
open
source
projects
that
are
viewed
in
Africa.
So
this
is
one
of
the
stories
we
generated
from
that
brand.
F
Other
stories
that
we
degenerate
towards,
or
we
did
reports
which
I'm
going
to
share
as
time
goes
on,
is
we
kind
of
interview
developers
on
how
a
neurodivergent
developers
on
how
they
use
how
copilot
helps
them?
So
we
got
some
people
that
identify
as
being
your
versions
neurodivergence
rather
and
then
we
did
interviews
with
them
and
they
told
us
how
copilot
helps
their
efficiency,
how
copilot
helps
them
and
then
the
third
one
was
also
during
during
chaoscon
Africa.
We
did
a
hacker.
F
D
C
F
F
C
C
F
That's
why
we
have
like
the
community
tab,
the
community,
Tab
and
then
the
list
of
projects,
so
two
cases
is
one,
is
to
I
think
that
doesn't
work
yet
or
something
so.
Two
cases
one
is
to
have
like
highlight
those
lists
of
projects
and
then
also
for
people
to
find
projects,
because,
like
there's
also
like
a
findability
problem
like
which
projects
do
I
contribute
to
yeah.
F
Right
now,
I
think
it
would
be
like
feeling
truly
form,
and
then
we
don't
have
like
a
particular
criteria.
But
what
I
see
right
now
is
like,
maybe
being
a
mantina
submits
like
the
the
projects
out
there,
but
I'm
going
to
have
to
confirm,
because
the
the
need
for
this
is
Catherine,
but
she's,
not
here
so
I'm,
going
to
have
to
confirm
that
date
from
her
like
what
is
the
criteria.
But
I
would
imagine
that
it
should
be
submitting
like
a
form
and
then
maybe
through
either
through.
C
C
F
Yeah
they're
all
like
so,
for
example,
I
kind
of
speak
to
like
track
party
UI
there.
The
main
creator
of
chakra
UI
is
Nigerian
and
though
he
doesn't
live
in
Nigeria,
currently
right
for
his
manager.
Right
so
and
then
open
source,
Community,
Africa
chaos,
Africa
I,
think
I.
Think
maybe
that's
also
like.
Oh,
although
it's
like
on
that
chaos,
but
it's
also
for
Africans
right
to
yeah,
then
the
evil
API
as
well
and
even
special
attack
is
Kenyan.
Okay,.
D
F
D
D
We
may
not
control
everything,
but
at
least
it
will
be
a
guideline
to
clarify
those
kind
of
thing,
because
code
provenance
is
an
interesting
Matrix
that
they
use
to
measure
a
lot
of
activities
in
software
engineering
space,
but
by
the
way,
this
is
an
excellent
idea
to
help
nurture
those
kind
of
introverted
projects
which
are
typically
Africans,
even
if
it
is
not
solving
emerging
problem
of
Africa
but
at
least
helping
the
developers
Community
there
to
be
feasible.
That's
excellent.
F
A
I
just
have
two
things.
One
is
amazing.
Thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
that
this
is
exactly
why
I
wanted
you
to
be
able
to
do
updates
here
in
this
meeting,
because
I
can
guarantee
you
that
most
of
us
have
not
seen
that,
and
that
is
amazing.
So
thank
you
Ruth
for
bringing
that
up,
and
the
second
thing
is
I
want
to
just
ask
about
this
upcoming
hackathon.
Do
you
want
that
on
the
chaos
calendar
or
what
do
you?
What
can
I
do
to
help
you
promote
that.
F
F
If
we
are
going
to
have
like
some
chaos
projects
in
the
hackathon,
it
will
be
great
to
have
it
at
the
calendar,
although
they
have
like
an
online
pass,
I
think
they
took
off
the
online
participation
aspect
of
it
because
it
might
be
too
difficult
for
them
to
handle
like
online
participants
and
in
person
to
them.
I
think
yeah
I
would
let
you
know
all
the
things
that
I
do
need
from
you
in
the
coming
week.
B
A
Fair
enough,
so
next
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up.
This
started
as
a
conversation
in
the
grimoire
lab
slack
channel,
so
it
may
have
gotten
skipped
by
some
people,
if
you're
not
regularly
in
that
channel
and
I
think
it
was
even
in
a
thread
of
that
channel.
So
I
just
wanted
to
surface
this,
because
I
think
it's
super
super
important
So
Courtney,
who
is
on
the
call
today
and
Courtney
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
you
are
an
accessibility,
expert
working
on
behalf
of
the
WordPress,
no.
E
Yep
I
am
employed
at
GoDaddy
and
as
as
a
developer
Advocate,
my
role
is
heavily
advising
on
our
open
source
contribution
strategy.
I
found
chaos,
while
I
was
at
open
source,
Summit
North
America
I'm,
looking
at
implementing
remore
for
some
WordPress
project
type
of
things.
I
am
a
contributor
since
2009
to
the
WordPress
project
and
as
part
of
that
mostly
I
focus
on
the
WordPress
training
team
and
also
now
sustainability,
so
project
Health,
which
obviously
brings
me
to
chaos.
E
E
He
said
we
were
actually
looking
specifically
at
Eva
event,
accessibility
and
looking
at
that
portion
of
Chaos's
website
on
the
metrics
around
event,
accessibility,
and
he
had
shared
with
me
that
he
wished
that
the
website
itself
would
be
a
little
bit
more
accessible
and
so
I
said
to
in
the
in
the
slack
Channel.
Basically
I
know
a
little
bit
about
making
things
like
making
sure
you've
got
the
right
heading
sizes
and-
and
you
know
the
basics
and
I-
could
recommend
some
things.
E
That
would
help
us
on
our
specific
website
that
are
absolutely
not
accessibility,
overlays.
Those
are
atrocious
and
everybody
in
accessibility
that
I
know
detests
overlays
tools.
That
will
just
tell
you
here's
what
you
need
to
go
fix
and
it
will
check
it
basically
itself
and
tell
you
here:
are
the
areas
that
you
should
pay
attention
to
and
fix,
and
out
of
that
kind
of
came
this
conversation
on?
E
Do
we
have
an
accessibility
statement
on
the
chaos
website?
I
am
fairly
new
to
chaos.
Overall,
there
are
things
that
I'm
trying
to
help
bring
into
the
WordPress
space
as
part
part
of
that,
but
I
have
volunteered
that
I
can
help
go
through
some
of
the
things
again.
I
wouldn't
call
myself
an
expert
I'm,
just
someone,
that's
really
committed
to
especially
thinking
about
the
experience
of
my
friend
that
has
a
screen
reader
for
all
that
he
does,
and
it's
just
a
brilliant
devops
engineer.
A
A
We
for
those
who
don't
know
who
might
be
new
to
chaos.
We
are
just
now,
starting
with
a
group
we're
calling
our
project
managers
and
so
for,
when
things
like
this,
exactly
like
this
come
up,
we
have
project
managers
that
will
be
able
to
kind
of
take
this
thing
and
start
creating
a
plan.
You
know
laying
out
like
what
needs
to
maybe
be
done
and
who
we
can
involve
and
all
of
those
pieces
for
that
for
that
project.
A
F
A
I
believe
and
obviously
I
think
Kevin's
on
the
meeting.
Yeah
Kevin
Lombard
is
the
one
that
who
does
most
of
the
work
on
the
website,
the
plugins
and
the
themes
and
everything
that
we
choose
have
been
path
as
accessible
quote,
unquote,
but
obviously
they're.
You
know
there
are
gaps
that
we
can
work
on
and
look
at.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
that
up
Courtney.
E
I'll
note
here
that
Amber
Hines
who
wrote
this
is
the
CEO
I
believe
an
equalized
digital
she's,
one
of
three
Partners
partner
owners
there
equalized
digital,
is
the
plug-in
that
well,
accessibility.
Checker
is
a
plug-in
that
per
agency
has
created.
That
will
tell
you
when
things
are
like
you,
you
forgot
your
alt
text.
You
need
to
add
your
proper
headings.
It
will
check
for
more
details
than
that,
but
I'm
simplifying
for
now.
That
plug-in
is
in
use
on
NASA's
new
website.
E
That's
coming
on
beta.naca.gov,
so
you
can
check
out
some
things
in
that
regard
and
I
can
actually
let
people
log
in
and
see
on
the
NASA
beta
site.
I
can
get
people
in
if
they
really
want
to
see
how
Nas
is
using
WordPress.
But
the
main
point
there
is
that
Amber
is
considered
to
be
an
accessibility
expert.
Her
agency
does
audits
of
various
websites
as
well,
but
they
also
create
tooling
to
help
websites
become
more
accessible
and
again
the
base
plugin
for
that
one
totally
free
in
the
WordPress
repo.
E
A
So,
basically,
what
this
I
I'm
imagining
this
would
be
similar
to
our
data
use
statement
that
chaos
has
where
it's
just
kind
of
explicitly
States
our
stand
on
things
and
the
ways
in
which
we
are
addressing
accessibility
in
the
project
and
also
a
way
to
tell
people
how
to
get
assistance.
I
think
would
be
excellent
as
well.
A
So
there's
also
this
on
how
to
generate
one
or
start
to
write
one.
So
I
did
not
do
this
yet
I
would
I
wanted
to
just
ask
the
community
I
wanted.
Okay,
a
couple
things
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
was
okay
with
us
doing
this
I
can't
imagine
why
we
wouldn't,
but
if
somebody
does
have
concerns
I
want
to
leave
space
for
that.
D
A
E
My
thinking
on
creating
the
accessibility
statements,
it
does
inform
people
that
read
it.
What
version
of
wikag
that
they're
aiming
to
meet
so
I
think
that
before
the
statement
should
be
done,
we
should
look
through
setting
up
the
accessibility,
Checker
plug-in
by
equalized
digital
and
doing
kind
of
a
base
cleanup
on
things
and
and
kind
of
assessing.
At
what
point
are
we?
What
might
it
take
to
move
on
and
I'll
look
again
for
some
tooling?
That
might
tell
us
how
close
we
are
to
various
wikag
standards,
but
in
it
again
I.
E
C
E
C
Because
I'm
thinking,
we,
interestingly
like
the
next
thing
on
the
agenda,
is
about
talking
about
accessibility
in
our
Dei
MD
statement,
which
is
a
different
project.
But
like
we
also
talk
in
that
dei.md
file,
not
just
about
the
website,
but
about
things
like
having
meetings
that
are
globally
friendly
to
everybody,
like
as
an
accessibility
issue
or
providing
translation
services.
E
So
that's
interesting,
I
think
maybe,
as
we
get
closer
to
having
this
statement,
we
look
and
see
if
there
are
examples
of
others
that
have
scoped
their
statements
bigger
or
if
there
is
a
place
to
maybe
say
that
the
footer
statement,
often
times
that
lands
somewhere
kind
of
in
the
Twitter
of
sites.
But
it's
a
footer
statement
says
this
is
about
the
website.
You
can
go
here
to
learn
more
about
our
accessibility
statements
for
everything
else.
Broadly.
E
Make
that
a
page
in
the
website,
or
something
like
that,
so
that
way
there
can
be
some
clarity,
because
we
may
be
closer
to
certain
levels
of
standards
for
simpler
areas
like
the
website,
whereas
perhaps
building
out
making
sure
that
ramore
has
a
certain
CAG
standard
might
be
a
little
more
challenging.
I,
don't
know
I'm.
C
E
Little
bit
of
a
Dev
I'll
say
that
I
can
get
people
I
could
teach
people
to
be
a
junior,
Dev,
yeah
but
I
think
about
accessibility
in
all
the
materials
that
are
in
WordPress
documentation
and
WordPress
training.
That's
kind
of
a
background,
former
school
teacher,
so
I
have
to
think
about
this
stuff
when
I'm
in
an
education
mode.
A
F
D
A
A
E
A
Oops
there
we
go
a
little
heart
for
you,
Victoria
I'll
put
one
in
my
chat
too.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
speaking
up
here
and
offering
to
do
that.
So
this
is,
you
know
what
this
is.
Why
I
tell
people
to
come
to
these
meetings
because
stuff
pops
up
and
there
are
always
opportunities
that
kind
of
crop
up
so
yay.
So
thank
you
so,
okay,
so
we
want
to
do
this
audit.
We
want
to
clean
stuff
up
first
and
then
we're
gonna
start
to
craft.
A
A
E
A
A
E
A
D
C
I
did
yep,
so
I
just
wanted
to
keep
people
posted.
This
came
up
in
the
Dei
work
group
call
last
week,
so
the
current
dei.md
file
that
we're
continuing
to
move
forward
looks
at
that
link
at
the
top
and
then
books
from
gitlab
had
provided
some
additional
input
around
project
access.
Actually,
so
you
know,
if
you
recall
a
b
c
d
e.
C
Those
are
kind
of
like
chaos
related
ways
to
think
about
access,
just
because
we
were
giving
examples
of
how
projects
could
think
about
access
and
Folks
at
gitlab
had
also
provided
some
feedback,
and
so,
if
you
go
back
to
the
minutes
and
you
click
on
yep
that
one,
so
this
is
kind
of
where
we're
at
right.
Now,
that's
one
two,
three
five,
six
79
10
different
ways
to
think
about
access
and
just
things
that
they're
doing
as
well
and
interestingly,
those
guidelines,
number
eight
who
we
talked
about
are:
are
there
so
so
anyway?
C
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
people
know
that
this
is
continuing
to
move
forward
and
Elizabeth
I'll
probably
be
issuing
a
pull
request
pretty
much
with
this
text
against
the
dei.md
file
in
that
repository.
But
I
just
want
to
bring
this
forward
to
everybody,
and
if
you
have
comments
or
questions
or
concerns,
that's
no
problem,
and
then
also,
if
you
go
back
to
the
minutes,
there
was
a
question
about,
would
separate
dei.md
files
be
required
for
each
of
an
organization's
individual
projects.
C
C
You
know
what
I
mean
kind
of
those
those
layers
of
abstraction
in
the
in
the
Dei
working
work
group
we
were
like
well,
it'll
always
depend
because
different
groups
are
different,
so
sometimes
one
org
just
has
a
few
repositories
that
are
totally
focused
on
a
project
others
Don
had
pointed
out
like
at
VMware,
they
have
the
VMware
org
and
then
within
there.
Each
repository
is
a
particular
project
and
so
I
think
kind
of
came
to
this
conclusion
see
that
ad
disclaimer,
where
I
need
to
rewrite
this
a
little
bit
better.
C
But
basically
just
saying
there
are
times
where
this
is
a
project.
At
the
order
level,
there
are
other
times
where
an
org
can
contain
many
projects.
It's
up
to
you
as
an
applicant
to
be
clear
on
what
you're
badging,
and
so,
if
you
do
have
one
org
with
many
projects
as
represented
across
many
repos,
then
it's
you
have
to
badge,
or
at
least,
if
each
one
of
those
projects
wants
a
badge
they
have
to
be.
C
Yes,
each
one
will
have
to
be
submitted,
so
just
it's
just
a
disclaimer
to
to
kind
of
specify
what
this
dei.md
file
covers.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
it
covers
this
breadth
of
stuff,
because
we
could
never
really
sort
that
out
on
our
end,
so
I
just
want
to
let
people
know
on
that
as
well
enough
people
have
questions
or
comments
on
that.
A
D
C
A
C
E
C
C
So
the
next
one
is
me
so
I
just
want
people
to
know
the
science
context
working
group
or
the
science
context
group
is
merging
with
University
at
least
temporarily
I
think
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
overlap
there.
At
least
people
had
shared
interests.
We
we
actually
had
some
people,
who
probably
were
more
in
University
I,
suppose
attending
the
science,
so
Melissa
and
Vanessa
were
both
completely
completely
okay,
with
with
doing
this,
for
so,
at
least
for
the
time
being,
science
is
being
merged
into
University.
A
A
D
A
B
C
So.
Thank
you
for
people
who
have
an
interest
in
that
and
you
can
go
back
to
the
and
then
the
last
thing
is
I've
started
to
put
the
book
chapter
together.
Yeah,
you
can
click
on
this,
so
this
is
the
to
do.
Group
has
asked
us
to
put
together
a
book
chapter
and
I
started
to
put
text
to
things
as
opposed
to
just
a
list
to
start
kind
of
highlighting
what
we
can
talk
about
in
this
book
chapter.
A
C
Well,
they
definitely
do
know
about
it
in
the
hospital
working
group.
In
fact,
if
you
like
go
back
to
the
book
chapter
yeah,
that's
where
it
comes
up
the
most
well
like
a
lot
of
so
like
scroll
down
just
a
little
bit
to
like
that
list,
there
ABCD
and
then
the
discovery
like
all
of
those
are
conversations
from
the
hospital
working
group,
and
so
basically
I
asked
the
question
in
the
hospital
working
group
take
notes
and
then
convert.
The
conversation
that
came
out
of
there
into
text
is
is
how
I'm
working
on
writing
this.
C
A
Well,
I'm
sure
it
would
be
brilliant
if
it
did
come
from
you
Matt.
So
thank
you
very
much
all
right.
We
are
actually
one
minute
over,
so
I
will
stop
sharing
and
we
will
wrap
up
the
meeting.
If
anybody
has
anything
else
to
add,
let's
do
it
async
and
we
will
see
you
all
here
same
time
same
place
next
week,
thanks.