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Chattanooga City Council Agenda Session — 01-17-23
A
C
Okay,
here
we
go
good
afternoon:
everyone
Welcome
to
our
Tuesday
January
17th
agenda
session.
If
I
could
have
a
motion
on
the
minutes,
please
minutes
have
been
motion
for
approval.
They
will
stand
without
objection.
Thank
you.
Everyone
getting
a
little
bit
of
late
start.
We've
been
pushing
it
hard
this
afternoon
with
a
work
session
starting
at
1pm.
I
want
to
thank
Council
for
some
great
conversation
for
the
last
few
hours
and
I.
C
Think
we've
hammered
out
and
asked
a
lot
of
pertinent
questions
to
issues
that
we
have
on
our
agenda
ordinances
under
final
reading
this
evening,
planning
items
that
there's
are
no
questions.
I
will
watch
the
board
for
your
lights
for
items
on
Final
reading,
seeing
none
under
Public
Works.
We
have
an
item
ordinances
moving
into
first
reading.
We
do
have
an
item
under
planning
item
Karen
case
zero,
two
one
three,
which
is
on
for
first
reading
with
you
bring
us
up
to
date
on
that
one.
D
C
You
and
that
is
in
District
Four.
If
Council
will
note
resolutions
Economic,
Development
two
items
in
District,
Four
I
have
no
questions
there
under
Early
Learning,
several
appointments
to
looks
like
North,
Chattanooga
and
Hixon
are
covered
with
our
community
advisory
committee.
Several
appointments
this
evening,
councilwoman
Hill.
B
For
the
SBA
structures,
it's
Economic
Development
Item
B.
So
we
know
we've
got
a
duplicate.
C
F
C
Yeah,
so
if
it
without
objection
from
Council,
I
would
like
to
ask
for
that.
That
item
to
be
removed
on
the
proposogen,
because.
C
C
We
do
have
an
RFP
request
that
was
deferred
from
last
week
and
I
believe
someone
from
the
administration
may
make
a
request.
Judging
from
what
I
heard
in
our
meeting,
we
move
that
ahead
one
more
week
due
to
council
comments
and
questions
and
concerns
am
I
all
right,
I'm
getting
ahead
shake
them.
We
will
see
what
happens
at
six
on
that
we
have
a
soul,
School
purchase
to
report
and
we
have
no
emergency
purchases.
Is
that
correct,
very
good
future
considerations.
A
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
Let
me
go
to
to
the
end.
One
first
number
14
office
of
Community
Health,
Family,
Justice
Center.
We
had
requested
that
that
should
be
equal
to
due
date
for
I
spoke
with
you
about
that
Mr
chair
due
date
for
the
application
to
be
in
it's
the
31st.
So.
C
C
Ma'am
and.
C
G
C
F
This
is
a
portion
of
a
apartment,
complex
that
is
being
constructed,
most
of
which
is
in
the
city
of
Chattanooga.
There
is
a
small
portion
that
is
outside
in
the
county
currently
and
the
owner
of
that
property
is
requested
to
come
in,
buys
petition
request
into
the
city
of
Chattanooga,
okay,.
H
F
D
C
Dr
Burke
in
our
agenda
session,
if
you
would
take
a
quick
look
at
next
week's
proposed
agenda
and
take
a
look
for
that
item.
If
you
would
please
and
let's
make
sure.
C
C
J
K
C
C
So
I've
I'm
requesting
that
we
will
do
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
Since
we've
made
a
new
Department
that
will
actually
fall
in
there
and
for
those
of
you
who
may
have
and
I
have
the
same
question
about
this.
This
is
we
would
talk
about
this
Mark
a
little
bit.
This
is
Paving,
that's
actually
under
the
Wastewater
and
not
in
our
Paving
budget
under
public
works.
That's
why
it
may
be
a
little
confusing
sure.
J
Thank
you.
This
contact
is
basically
just
to
help
restore
right-of-way
when
we
go
in
and
excavate
for
repairs,
so
it
might
be
curbs
sidewalk
or
driveway
aprons
things
like
that
pavement,
that's
really
what
it's
foreign
in
all
districts
around
the
city
whenever
we're
doing
a
repair
that
requires
you
know
excavation
this.
J
And
concrete
whatever
we
would
get
into
in
the
in.
C
Morning
too,
you
go
right
ahead.
I've
been
moving
rather
quickly
with
today's
flurry
of
activity.
Yeah.
L
G
E
You
chair
I,
would
just
like
a
little
bit
more
information
on
item
h
under
parks
and
Outdoors.
It's
related
to
it's
a
resolution
that
says
we're
going
to
establish
some
new
criteria,
processes,
etc.
For
the
PACE
program
within
our
parks,
department
and
I
wondered
when
we
can
expect
to
see
what
that
new
criteria
will
be.
Will
that
come
back
across
our
agenda.
M
I,
don't
think
he's
here.
We
can
definitely
get
you
that
information
before
next
week
and
we
can
also
if
it
is
y'all's
pleasure,
we
can
do
a
presentation
where,
where
Scott
and
his
team
can
come
in
and
present
on
the
changes
so.
E
C
N
Yes,
I
did
want
to
had
we
moved
to
Department
reports.
N
N
And
I
had
a
a
request
on
last
Tuesday.
We
had
a
lot
of
comments
from
individuals
that
worked
work
in
public
work,
specifically
Solid
Waste
I
was
able
to
get
with
Ryan,
who
has
been
great
about
giving
information
regarding
their
issues,
so
I
requesting
a
departmental
report
to
be
placed
on
an
agenda
for
January
31st
to
go
over
some
of
the
issues
and
concerns
that
were
addressed
during
that
meeting
and
what
the
Administration
is
currently
doing
to
remedy
those
Solutions.
C
C
The
seventh:
yes
there
it
is
February
the
7th
I'm
happy
to
call
a
special
parks
and
Public
Works.
I
N
We
can
get
it
on
the
agenda,
the
sooner
we
can
get
I
guess
people
can
get
educated
on
what
is
going
on
and
what
are
the
remedies
because
they
were
pressing
wordpressing
issues
with
our
with
our
city,
employees,
understood.
C
C
That
concludes
Department
reports.
We
will
now
move
into
committees
if
no
one
has
any
other
comments
or
questions
for
our
agenda
session.
Okay,
yes,
oh
councilwoman,.
L
We
get
into
that.
Thank
you.
There's
a
lot
of
baby
area
isn't
in
District
and
District
9.
However,
I've
had
a
lot
of
people
to
call
with
concerns
of
the
apartment,
complex,
the
city
of
Chattanooga.
We
did
give
them
a
pilot,
so
Jermaine
as
you're
here
and
I,
spoke
to
Jermaine
earlier,
but
to
request
that
baby.
If
they
could
come,
give
us
an
update
on
where
they
are
and
renovating
that
property.
L
A
lot
of
constituations
are
complaining
about
sewage,
backup
in
their
Apartments,
so
a
lot
of
them
were
being
displaced.
You
know
we
our
concerns
about
us,
giving
people
pilots
in
our
communities,
and
this
ends
up
being
the
result,
they're
not
giving
us
the
work.
I
That
they
say
so,
are
you
able
to
get
them
to
come
to
a
public
meeting
to
address
concerns
I.
H
L
You
yes
ma'am
and
chair
also,
and
it's
my
last
thing
is
that
we've
all
been
seeing
a
lot
of
things.
You
know,
they're
talking
about
more
killings,
about
homicides
and
different
things
in
our
community
and
I
know
we're
having
a
Public
Safety
Committee
report,
but
I'd
like
to
also
hear
from
our
Police
Department
about
what
what
are
the
steps
of
things
that
they're
doing
to
kind
of
reduce
that
I'm
kind
of
getting
tired
of
hearing?
L
Oh
well,
you
know
it's
not
it's
reduced
from
the
numbers
of
last
year
or
it's
not
as
high
as
the
previous
years.
That's
missing
the
whole
point
when
we
we
still
have
these
things,
that's
happening
in
our
community
and
we
no
longer
can
say.
Oh
it's
in
this
particular
Community,
because
this
happened
all
over
the
city
of
Chattanooga,
and
you
know
we
have
cameras
in
place
that
still
aren't
trying
to
able
to
capture.
L
You
know
people
that
are
committing
these
type
crimes,
so
I'm
even
more
concerned-
and
you
know,
if
they're
not
working,
then
I
want
the
cameras
removed
out
of
my
communities
if
it's
not
serving
a
greater
purpose
of
what
we're
saying
we're
using
the
cameras
for.
But
if
we
can
get
a
report
from
the
police
department
to
really
you.
C
C
I
see
a
Public
Safety
Committee
scheduled
for
the
31st
and,
if
you'll,
allow
me
to
defer
to
the
chair
of
that
committee.
Are
you
okay
with
adding
that
into
your
committee,
sir?
Okay,
very
good?
Thank
you.
L
That's
fine,
but
I
think
I
still
want
to
appropriately
you
how
we
talk
about
it.
Okay,.
L
C
You
very
much
for
bringing
that
up,
we'll
get
that
we'll
get
that
in
there.
For
you
any
other
questions
or
comments
before
we
move
into
legislative
committee
in
your
packet
you'll
see
an
attorney-client
meeting
requested
I
have
confirmed
the
City
attorney.
We
do
not
need
that
today.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
know.
I
have
a
sigh
of
relief
from
several
of
us.
So
chairman
Smith
of
the
legislative
committee,
you
have
the
floor.
O
I'm
a
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
his
name.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
two
items
business
to
go
over
in
legislative
committee.
One
is
a
proposed
ordinance
for
a
city
election
cycle
and
another
is
over
stvr.
So
we
will
go
to
the
first
one,
which
is
the
city
election
cycle
and
Kiana.
Believe
you
brought
out
a
new
or
brought
up
brought
that
out
for
the
packages
correct
all
right,
so
everybody
should
have
that
one
in
their
packets
am
I
right,
councilwoman,
coonrod
that
this
is
being
brought
forth.
L
L
Thank
you
chair,
so
we,
this
has
been
on
circulation
for
a
while
and
talks
about
it,
and
now
we're
here
so
I
would
like
and
part
of
the
legislation
in
the
wise
that
we
could
move
our
election
Cycles
to
the
for
us,
I
would
say
in
cycle
for
28.
L
G
L
Ballot,
it
will
put
us
on
an
election
cycle.
That's
not
right
after
the
presidential
election
that
August
cycle
will
be
not
a
congested
cycle.
Our
election
will
still
be
nonpartisan,
as
the
other
municipalities
are
non-partisan
and
looking
at
the
results
and
the
data.
What
I've
seen
is
that
in
our
city
council
elections
like
our
voters,
are
less
coming
out
Leslie
coming
out
than
in
our
state
elections.
L
We
saw
an
increase
in
our
voters
coming
out
in
21
when
we
ran
this
last
time
and
I
honestly
think
that's
because
the
amount
of
people
that
was
running
for
mayor
we've
never
had
that
many
people
to
run
on
that
ballot.
So
everybody
was
bringing
out
people
who
hadn't
voted
in
a
while.
They
registered
new
voters
that
came
out
so
this
next
term.
It
may
not
look
like
that.
L
If
we
don't
have
that
many
and
it's
the
first
that
I've
ever
been
able
to
vote
that
we've
had
a
large
amount
of
black
people
seeking
to
become
mayor
that
brought
out
a
large
population
of
black
people
across
the
city
as
well.
It'll
help
reduce
the
voter
fatigue.
As
I
said,
we
coming
off
a
presidential
election
before
that
presidential
election
is
the
election
in
August
and
right
after
that,
that's
when
city
council
called
folks
are
tired
right,
we're
just
we're
tired.
We
no
longer
can
say:
oh
well,
black
people
aren't
coming
out.
L
L
That
we
can
capture,
we
could
use
those
funds
for
programming,
we
can
use
it
add
it
into
our
Paving
budget.
We
can
put
it
in.
L
L
No
one
submitted
to
me
any
additional
questions
or
concerns
of
no
one
sent
anything
to
feel
Also.
It
talks
about
our
term
limits
on
here
as
well.
So
it's
out
it's
a
couple
of.
L
The
term
limits
here,
I'm,
not
for
sure
if
the
mayor
need
to
be
here
for
four
terms,
so
we
could
discuss
it
or
if
anybody
is
interested
in
in
term
limits
and
then
the
Stagger
terms,
but
it
all
will
be
contingent
on
if
we
say
hey.
This
is
something
we
want
to
move
forward
with
to
be
placed
on
a
better
valid
and
the
ultimate
decision
would
be
from
our
constituents.
G
Henderson,
thank
you.
Mr,
chair,
councilwoman,
coonrod
I
could
support
getting
on
a
election
cycle
that
coincides
with
a
county
election
and
I
would
prefer
an
election
cycle
that
begins
on
2028
I.
Think
that
would
put
us
on
the
ballot
that
is
not
as
crowded
as
the
ballot
would
be
in
26..
If
I'm
correct,
our
County
Commissioner
might
be
able
to
answer
that
question
a
little
better
one
thing:
I
guess:
I'm,
not
necessarily
in
favor
of
staggered
terms.
G
Of
school
I
mean
that
to
me,
and
it
was
more
of
a
hindrance
gonna
help,
and
it
never
did
really
appreciate
the
staggered
terms.
As
far
as
the
the
term
limits
and
I
under.
We
have
the
term
limit
now
for
the
city
mayor,
but
I've
always
felt
like
the
voting
public,
determined
term
limits,
and
sometimes
they
gave
you
a
one-year
term
or
yeah
one
one
term
limit.
G
Sometimes
it
was
two
or
three
but
I
guess
I've,
always
like
that
was
taken
a
little
bit
of
the
voting
Public's
freedom
Away
by
placing
a
mandatory
term
limit
on
a
representative
that
they
like
and
they'll.
Let
you
know
right,
quick
if
they
don't
like
a
representative,
so
I
could
support
the
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
also
give
the
council
that
runs
in
2025
a
heads
up
that
they
would
be
running
for
somewhat
less
than
a
for
your
term
by
being
in
the
cycle
of
2028.
G
So
I
could
support
that,
but
term
limits
and
staggered
terms.
That
would
obviously,
if
we
went
to
a
cycle
that
coincided
with
the
county,
that
would
put
somebody
having
to
run
in
that.
What
I'll
call
the
big
ballot
and
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
have
to
fight
that
battle,
but
so
I
think
it
would
be
better.
Maybe
just
leave
everybody
in
that
in
that
same
voting
block
Mr
chairs,
my
two
cents.
Thank
you,
sir
councilwoman.
O
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
have
I've
shared
my
opinion
on
this
back
in
August,
when
councilwoman
coonrod
initially
brought
the
idea
to
this
body.
E
I
am
not
in
support
of
changing
our
elections
to
coincide
with
the
election
cycle
and
the
reason
why
is
because
nonpartisan
elections
and
elected
bodies
like
ours
are
very
rare
and
I
think
they're
very
important
while
moving
our
city
elections
to
follow
County
State
Cycles
would
save
a
small
amount
of
money
in
the
grand
scheme
of
our
budget.
I
believe
that
the
city
would
lose
much
more
than
we
would
gain.
E
By
holding
our
elections
separate,
we
reinforce
our
non-partisan
commitment.
If
we
choose
to
align
with
the
partisan
structure,
we
can
expect
results,
not
unlike
County
Commission,
a
body
that
struggles
to
find
consensus
on
important,
seemingly
non-partisan
issues
such
as
wastewater
treatment,
zoning
facilities,
Etc.
E
The
idea
of
Staggering
the
elections
is
one
that
is
has
not
been
in
the
conversation
since
councilwoman
kunra
brought
that
in
August
I'd
like
to
add
I
found
on
school
board.
There
was
a
really
interesting
disparity
set
up
by
that
on
the
face
of
it.
It's
an
interesting
idea
to
be
able
to
retain
some
institutional
knowledge
in
the
in
the
structure
of
Staggering.
However,
what
I
noticed
is
that
there
will
always
be
seats
that
will
be
running
at
this
at
the
same
time
as
the
County
Commission
seat.
E
Don't
think
that
that
creates
a
fairness
for
all
the
people
who
are
running
so
if
we
are
going
to
be
staggering,
I'd
want
us
to
be
thinking
about
how
that
overlays,
so
that,
if
someone
wants
to
pursue
another
seat,
that
they
have
the
same,
the
same
Foundation
as
somebody
else
that
is
running
from
another
District
and
I
am
very
open
to
hearing
the
conversation
about
term
limits.
I
don't
have
a
strong
opinion
on
that
at
this
point,
and
this
discussion
will
help
me
form
one
thanks.
O
All
right
say:
none
at
this
point
in
legislative
committee
when
we
do
have
an
ordinance
or
a
resolution
being
presented.
O
G
I
guess
I
before
we
decide
whether
we
want
to
move
it
or
which
I
you
know,
I
would
have
no
objection
to
moving
it
forward.
As
I
stated
earlier,
I
I
would
support
an
election
cycle
that
would
coincide
with
2028,
not
being
staggered.
I
didn't
know
if
the
sponsor
of
the
bill
would
want
to
go
back
and
and
tweak
it
or
address
it,
or
if
this
is
the
legislation
that
she
wants
to
put
forward.
G
I'm
I'm
certainly
amenable
to
moving
forward
with
that,
although
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
support
it
in
its
current
form.
O
That
would
be
my
next
question.
I
was
about
to
come
up
with,
but
thank
you
for
putting
that
out
there,
but
before
that
you
have
another
life,
so
I
will
hold
on
mine,
German
electric
thank.
C
You
Mr
chair,
I'm,
going
to
be
honest
and
say:
I
really
have
not
Dove
as
deep
into
this
particular
given.
That
is,
we
still.
H
C
Some
time
for
all
this
and
I
would
like
to
ask
the
sponsor
if,
if
there
is,
if
this
is
a
do,.
D
C
Now
or
if
there's
a
conversation
that
needs
to
happen,
are
you
ready
to
this.
B
C
C
It's
one
of
the
things
that,
honestly
since
day,
one
of
holding
this
office,
I've
held
the
most
dear
to
my
heart,
is
when
people
ask
me
and
I
say
when
I
come
into
this
room
and
I
come
to
this
building
to
conduct
business.
I
am
a
chattanoogan
and
the
only
letter
after
my
name
is
a
c
Capital,
C
and
I.
Don't
want
to
get
lost
in
that
shuffle
and
that
that
gives
me
great
pause
and
great
concern.
J
C
To
say
that
conversation
cannot
happen
or
that
more
conversation
should
happen,
but
you
know,
as
it
stands
right
now,
I
would
not
be
supporting
this
and
just
want
to
make
that
that
claim
openly
and
to
ask
if
this
was
a
what
if
this
was
a
do
or
die
at
this
moment
for
for
this
legislation.
K
I've
also
had
a
chance
to
dive
into
this
I
at
least
want
to
talk
to
the
folks
in
my
district.
Regarding
this
that's
very
concerned
about
crowded
elections.
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
probably
look
looking
at
us
out
there
in
TV
Land
they're,
very
concerned
about
that
too.
These
crowded
election
at
least
want
to
speak
to
the
folks
of
my
district
before
I
do
before
we
go
forward
on
this.
Thank
you.
K
O
You,
sir,
so,
to
follow
up.
We
can
move
this
legislation
forward
in
its
current
form
of
the
sponsor,
so
chooses
as
long
as
there
is
somebody
to
co-sponsor
it.
However,
due
to
some
of
the
questions
that
are
asked,
councilman
coonrod
I'd
like
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
respond
as
to
whether
or
not
you
would
like
to
discuss
this
further
moving
forward.
Ma'am.
L
This
legislation-
everybody
received
this
in
a
time
that
over
a
month
to
look
at
it
to
review
and
I,
think
it's
rather
it's
a
slap
in
the
face
to
say
that
you
didn't
even
take
the
time
to
even
look
at
it.
No,
it's
not
something!
That's
like
do
or
die.
They
need
to
be
done
right
now,
but
we
need
to
start
considering
other
things
that
we've
done,
that
we've
made
it
urgent
that
it
don't
take
effect
until
three
years
from
now,
but
we
pushed
it
through.
L
L
So
it's
not
about
us,
saying
that
you're
a
Republican
or
a
Democrat,
because
I
don't
care
nothing
about
that
when
we
all
got
elected,
we
serving
to
make
the
best
decision
for
the
city
of
Chattanooga,
not
because
we're
Republicans,
not
because
we're
Democrats
not
because
we're
independent,
but
for
the
betterment
of
our
city
or
Chattanooga.
So
because
I
am
always
willing
to
work
with
my
colleagues.
L
So
yes,
we
could.
You
know
further
the
discussion
tweak
it
a
little
bit
complete
again
I'm
asking
if,
whatever
concerns
that
you
have,
you
can
email,
Phil
and
I.
If
you
need
to
have
public
comment
sessions
with
your
constituents,
because
their
voice
is
going
to
matter
what
we
decide
to
do
if
it
goes
through,
they
have
to
vote
on
it.
So
if
they
we
said
yes,
we
want
to
move
forward
with
our
constituents.
Will
they
can
very
well
say?
No,
we
don't
want
it.
L
It's
okay
I'm
willing
to
do
that
this
time,
but
I
would
appreciate
the
same
Grace
that
we
extend
to
everybody
else
that
you
all
started
to
extend
that
to
me
too,
when
I'm
presenting
legislation
at
least
take
the
time
to
read
it,
so
we
can
be
prepared
when
we
get
ready
to
discussion
and
legislation.
We
had
too
much
time
to
review
it.
C
You
very
much
chairman,
yes,
thank
you.
I
want
to
make
clear
because
I
feel,
like
some
words
were
put
into
my
mouth
I,
did
not
ignore
this
legislation.
What
I
said
was
I
have
not
Dove
deep
into
it
over
the
past
month
and
what
that
means-
and
let
me
remind
you
when
I,
introduce
the
steep
slope
legislation
which
is
took
a
year
and
a
half
of
diving
into
it.
Conversation
with
this
Council
working
in
and
out
of
the
community,
the
professional
Community,
the
landscape,
the
developers
I
really
did
my
homework
on
that.
C
H
C
This
system
was
set
up
with
a
turn
of
our
government
formation
at
a
certain
time
in
history,
and
I
would
like
to
have
the
opportunity
to
hear
about
that
understand.
Why,
and
it
may
be,
that
it's
a
good
idea.
It
may
be
time
for
this
I'm,
not
saying
that
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
just
because
it's
been
out
there
for
a
month
in
the
paperwork
doesn't
mean
I
haven't
looked
at
it
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear
legislation
takes
time.
C
Just
because
an
idea
comes
forward
doesn't
mean
well,
you've
had
two
weeks
to
look
at.
Let's
get
it
done.
These
things
take
time
and
I
and
I've
done
that
I've
worked,
walked
that
path
for
nearly
a
year
and
a
half
and
all
I'm
asking
for
is
the
consideration
and
conversation
to
listen
to
the
aspects
that
could
be
involved
in
this
and
the
unintended
consequences
and
the
good
and
the
bad.
That's
all
I'm
asking
for
I
did
not
ignore
this.
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear
record.
Thank
you,
chairman.
O
L
And
we
we
agreed
to
hey,
give
you
some
time
to
dive
into
it,
but
I
do
want
to
bring
it
up
to
your
attention.
Is
that
we
got
presented
and
I'm
bringing
it
back
up
the
rezoning,
the
redistricting.
We
had
less
time
to
look
at
it
and
say
this
is
what
we've
done,
something
that's
going
to
affect
our
communities,
that's,
but,
and
not
just
that.
It's
other
stuff
that
come
before
us
that
can
affect
us
that
we
move
forward
and
we're
not
just
oh
we're
gonna
need
a
little
more
time.
L
O
All
right
so
moving
forward,
Mr,
chair,
I,
may
direct
this
question
to
you.
We
do
need
to
bring
this
back
up
whether
or
not
that's
in
legislative
committee
or
maybe
strategic
planning,
I'll
leave
it
up
to
you
sort
of
decide
which
one
of
those
is
most
appropriate.
As
far
as
the
timeline
I
think
we
owe
councilman
coonrod
who's,
introducing
this
a
realistic
timeline
when
we're
all
willing
to
to
spend
the
time
to
work
this
over
be
30
days.
O
What
whatever
that
may
be
and
set
that
date
and
serve
your
it's
up
to
you,
whether
you'd
like
to
hear
this
in
strategic,
where
we
can
really
hammer
it
out
or
back
in
this
committee,
where
we
typically
look
at
something.
That's
a
little
more
formal
and
ready
to
move
forward
to
the
agenda.
O
All
right
so
in
one
month
Kion,
if
you
would
make
sure
to
make
a
notebook,
you
can
do
legislative
committee
meeting
that
amount
of
time
and
council
members
in
that
amount
of
time
in
the
next
30
days.
If
you
do
have
questions
or
concerns
beyond
what
was
discussed
here,
please
email,
those
to
our
city
attorneys.
So
you
can
collect
those
and
get
back
to
the
sponsor
and
see
what
we
want
to
do.
Foreign.
O
Thank
you,
you
know
for
the
lights
on
this
item.
We
will
move
forward
to
our
stvr
ordinance,
I,
believe
everybody
has
received
a
couple
versions
of
this.
The
one
marked
red
line,
I
believe,
is
the
latest
version.
G
This
has
been
a
while.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
confusion,
I
think
earlier
this
morning,
when
something
was
sent
out
that
wasn't
quite
ready,
but
but
you
do
have
a
red
line
version
with
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made
last
week
at
our
work
session
and
I'll
just
go
over
a
few
of
those
one.
G
G
G
G
There
was
some
talk
about
the
need
to
I
guess
to
have
to
extend
the
moratorium
just
a
little
bit
further.
So
from
30
days,
I
went
to
45
days
and
Council.
If
you
kind
of
do
the
math
by
the
time
this
gets
on
the
two-week
agenda,
it
takes
two
readings
to
pass.
G
It
takes
another
two
weeks
to
become
effective
and
then
you
give
it
45
days
that
puts
it
at
the
end
of
the
first
week
in
April
and
I
think
we
heard
last
week
that
we
could
have
a
administrative
here
on
by
March.
So
this
puts
it
at
the
end
of
the
first
full
week
in
April
by
doing
45
days
and
then
I
did
I
did
amend
or
include
some
of
the
fee
structure,
changes
that
included
some
of
the
money
going
to
affordable
housing.
So
of
the
absentee
initial
fee.
G
G
Last
week
and
some
changes
that
the
council
would
like
to
see
which,
as
the
sponsor
of
this
legislation
I
was
I,
was
good
with
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
not
include
and
I'll
just
I
point
that
out
was
putting
a
portion
of
the
renewal
fee
under
the
absentees
toward
the
city's
affordable
housing.
G
The
reason
I
did,
that
being
in
business,
an
initial
fee
or
another
upfront
fee,
a
one-time
fee
has
never
been
a
problem
for
include
that
in
the
startup
of
whatever
I'm
doing
it's
always
those
reoccurring
fees
that
sort
of
start
eating
into
your
overhead
and
and
eventually
into
your
profit.
G
So
for
those
reasons,
that's
the
reason,
I
left
out
placing
an
additional
fee
on
the
rules.
Everything
else
stayed
as
it
was
in
the
ordinance.
So
you
do
have
a
Redline
version
that
points
out
the
differences
that
was
presented
from
last
week
and
then
I
also
have
just
a
clean
version
of
the
ordinance
as
well.
So
with
that
Mr
chair
be
to
take
any
questions,
I
think
Mr
Anderson
was
also
going
a
little
bit
of
update,
maybe
of
kind
of
where
we
were
in
the
on
the
enforcement
side
of
it.
G
As
far
as
letters
going
out
had
we
begin
to
hear
you
know,
have
we
begin
to
hear
any
of
the
cases
and
where
we,
where
we
were
in
that
so
I,
don't
know
what
order
you
want
to
take
it.
If
the
council
wants
to
hear
the
update
or
if
we
want
to
basically
take
the
questions
on
the
red
line
version,
let's
go.
E
You
chair
first
councilman
Henderson.
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
the
ideas
and
concerns
that
I
brought
and
incorporating
so
many
of
them
into
this
new
Redline
version.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
feel
like
we're.
We're
headed
toward
a
good,
a
good
place,
as
I
reflected
on
this
version.
E
I
thought
I
thought
I've
been
thinking
some
more
about
the
process
that
I
I
think
would
be
most
effective
at
delivering
a
successful
process
for
our
neighborhoods.
So
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
us
pass
an
ordinance
that
provides
for
enforcement,
fee
structure
and
density
that
addresses
all
three
of
those.
Those
are
our
primary
challenges
in
which
the
enforcement
and
fee
structure
would
go
into
effect
immediately,
so
that
we
could
shut
down
the
illegal
short-term
vacation
rental
immediately.
E
Using
the
enforcement
mechanisms
that
this
ordinance
would
provide
would
allow
for
renewal
fees
for
legal
operators
to
go
into
effect
so
that
we
could
begin
covering
the
cost
of
our
enforcement
plans
and
then
allowing
the
moratorium
to
live
out
its
life
and
end
at
the
natural
six
months
that
we
had
already
planned
for
my
thought
being,
as
it
has
been,
that
we've
got
to
get
this
enforcement
piece
done
and
there's
plenty
of
work
to
be
done
between
now
and
that
moratorium
coming
open,
at
which
point
also
whatever
ends
up
in
this
ordinance.
E
E
Councilman
Henderson's
version
focuses
on
sections
11-519
through
526
and
also
section
510,
but
the
administration's
version
covers
it
starts
with
510
and
goes
through
517
and
what
I
notice
when
I've
been
studying?
That
version
is
those
versions.
E
They
cover
definitions,
minimum
standards
for
short-term
vacation
rental,
the
application
process,
the
the
certificate,
approval,
revocation
transfer
conditions,
renewal
fees
and
process
the
requirements
for
a
short-term
vacation
rental
agent,
which
was
something
that
was
important
to
this
body
as
or
to
the
committee
that
we
heard
a
lot
was
making
sure
we
had
someone
who
was
responsible,
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week.
So
there's
a
section
in
the
administration's
version
for
that
and
there's
also
a
section
related
to
failure
to
obtain
certificate.
E
What
happens
if
if
a
applicant
were
denied,
so
what
I?
So
what
I'm
seeing
is
both
versions
have
really
solid
ideas
and
I'm
personally
not
ready
to
leave
either
one
of
those
sets
of
ideas
behind
to
the
exclusion
of
the
other,
so
I'm
working
on
a
casserole,
as
it
were,
to
mash
these
two
together
to
bring
so
that
we
have
the
definitions
that
clarifies
the
language
so
that
I
feel
like
we
have
more
solid
legal
standing
and
fewer
questions
without
answers
within
the
ordinance.
E
E
The
first
is
defining
the
authority
of
the
short-term
vacation
rental
appeals
board
that
shows
up
in
councilman
Henderson's
version
and
in
the
administration
version,
but
also
in
the
but
the
administrative
hearing
officers
Authority
is
addressed
only
in
the
administration's
version
and
given
that
both
of
those
are
key
enforcement
elements,
I
would
like
us
all
to
have
a
really
solid
understanding
about
of
what
we
can
expect
from
those
groups,
because
my
impression
from
our
committee
conversations
and
the
focus
groups
within
the
community,
both
from
neighborhoods
and
investors,
was,
we
have
to
have
very
clear
rules
about.
E
What's
allowed.
What's
not
allowed
and
what
happens
when
you
break
the
rules,
so
I
would
like
us
to
explore
that
some
more
and
then
also
I
would
like
some
guidance
from
planning
about
the
phrase
residential
multi-structure
attached
units
and
residential
single
structure
detached
that's
something
that
we
worked
out
last
week
on
the
diocese
and
I
I.
Wonder:
does
that
then
allow
us
to
have,
because
that
was
our
new
way
of
saying
single,
family
and
multi-family,
but
where
does
that?
E
Where
does
commercial
fit
in
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
covering
our
bases?
So
if
we
might
be
able
to
have
some
guidance
on
that
either
today
or
in
the
next
week,
that
would
be
be
really
useful.
E
I
am
still
committed
to
having
some
kind
of
affordable
housing
fund
fee
as
part
of
a
renewal,
because
the
thought
process
with
that
is
any
housing
unit
that
is
taken
out
of
our
housing
ecosystem
is
one
where
a
chattanoogan
cannot
live
long
term
and
so
for
as
long
as
a
unit
is
a
short-term
rental,
it
is
having
it
is,
taking
a
unit
away
and
that
renews
every
time
that
that
that
unit
stays
a
short-term
rental.
E
E
E
So
as
a
city,
Revenue
has
been
left
on
the
table
since
2017.,
and
so
that's
something
that
is
just
I
think
can
just
go
into
effect
with
the
next
budget,
and
there
are
some
processes
that
the
assessor
of
property
will
need
us
to
be
able
to
flag
those
properties
and
let
them
know
that
they
are
absentee
rentals
and
there
is
actually
within
state
law,
and
this
was
terrific
for
the
local
investor,
who
has
a
singular
short-term
vacation
rental
that
is
not
their
home
within
the
tax
law.
E
There
is
a
provision
to
essentially
allow
for
a
second
home
that
can
be
rented
as
a
short-term
vacation
rental
at
the
residential
tax
rate
assessment.
So
so
you
could
have
your
home
and
a
quote
vacation
home
that
you
stay
at
14
days
a
year
or
10
percent
of
the
days
that
you
rent
it
out.
So
there's
there's
a
provision
in
that
in
the
state
tax
law.
E
N
Thank
you
so
much
chairman
first
thank
you,
councilman
Henderson
for
doing
so
much
work
on
this.
We
really
appreciate
it.
I
did
want
to
Echo
some
of
the
sentiments
from
councilwoman
Hill
of
the
transfer
fee
after
review
and
talking
to
some
of
my
constituents
and
reading
some
emails
and
feedback.
I
got
back
some
of
the
issues.
There
were
issues
with
the
transfer
fee
because
that
is
from
and
just
Clarity.
N
Occasionally,
okay,
all
right!
So
that's!
Okay!
So
that's
a
that's
a
that's
the
issue
because
then
you
will
have
people
going
south.
You
know
I'm
buying
this
house
just
to
give
it
to
count
not
that
I
would
but
give
it
to
councilman
Smith.
N
So
he
can
just
flip
it
and
sell
it,
and
he
can
flip
it
and
sell
it
and
we
can
and
it
becomes
that
in
itself
becomes
a
business
I
think
it
becomes
a
bit
more
complex
with
the
transfer,
so
it'd
be
great
to
just
have
that
removed
and
just
if
the
you
know,
the
permit
stays
with
the
person
that
owned
it
or
who
applied
for
it.
N
And
if
you
know
the
house
is
sold
or
turned
over
whatever
the
case
is
they
can
come
in
and
apply
for
an
initial
application
and
go
through
that
same
process.
For
that
and
in
regards
to
the
35
the
45
day,
change
I
do
think.
We
still
need
that
tiered
or
phased
in
approach,
because
we
do
need
to
address
enforcement
capacity,
making
sure
that
we
have
all
that
in
place
before
we
do
any.
You
know
anything.
N
We
don't
want
it
just
to
be
because
they're
coming
as
soon
as
it
opens
up
everybody's
coming
in
they're,
gonna
put
those
applications
in
applications
in,
and
it's
just
going
to
pile
up
and
become
an
issue
for
administration
and
then
from
that
of
course,
everything's
I
always
pours
back
over
to
us.
So
I
think
that
we
should
have
a
face
in
our
tilt
approach
to
it.
I
don't
believe
going
past
the
six-month
deadline.
N
If
we
don't
have
it
by
then
we
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
we're
doing
at
that
point,
but
I
do
think
there
needs
to
be
a
tiered
in
or
face-in
approach
to
it.
I
like
the
idea
of
councilwoman
Hill,
stating
that
maybe
we
can
pass
legislation
for
the
enforcement
fee
and
density
fees
and
density.
N
So
we
can
go
ahead
at
least
get
something
going
as
part
of
that
phase,
the
interior
approach
and
then
coming
back
finally
and
opening
and
getting
that
data
and
us,
you
know
getting
a
report
from
Administration,
letting
us
know
what's
going
on
and
then
from
there
preparing
to
open
back
up
that
I
believe
it's
July,
9th
I
think
that's
the
date
to
open
up
on
July
tonight.
So
that
is
what
those
are.
N
My
comments
and
I
would
like
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
what
happens
in
those
commercial
properties,
those
that
ugc
type
mix
use,
because
a
lot
of
that
is
coming
and
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
people
will
be
getting
those
condos
to
turn
to
short-term
vacation
rentals.
So
just
looking
at
that
and
seeing
you
know
what's
the
definition
and
what
how
how
does
that
get
into
how?
How
is
that
impacted?
N
So
those
are
a
few
items
that
that
I
wanted
to
address
just
the
face-in
approach
and
making
sure
that
we
have
a
lot
of
ducks
in
a
row
before
we
open
up
and
then
there's
a
flood
of
people
coming
in
and
we're
not
prepared
to
receive
them.
Anyway,
to
be
impactful
and
effective
for
our
constituents.
C
Chairman
Ledford,
thank
you,
sir.
My
question
is
regarding
the
transfer
I
was
reading
over
this
and
I
may
have
missed
it,
but
does
this
does
this
transfer
go?
Are
you
are
we?
Having
does
this
legislation
imply
that
we're
adding
the
transfer
as
a
buy
right
instead
of
yeah?
It.
C
F
A
C
B
F
Body
can,
but
it's
going
to
have
to
be
an
evolving
decision
made
by
that
of
course
board,
because,
like
we're
talking
about
it,
there
are
situations
where
other
units
move
into
play.
Then
it
may
cancel
someone's
ability
to
be
able
to
transfer
out
potentially
in
that
regard,
because
you've
got
a
moving
set
of
players
here
as
it
goes
along
further.
But,
yes,
you
can
specify
more
The
Authority
that
you
give
the
board
right
now
would
have
the
authority
to
accept
or
approve
an
application,
approve
it
with
conditions
or
deny
an
application.
F
F
Sir,
and
from
there
that
appeal
board
has
to
approve
it
in
writing
is
their
reason
for
approval
or
denial,
and
then
the
courts
would
actually
enforce
it
from
later.
G
F
G
C
Subject
to
what,
if,
when
they,
if
something
actually
goes
too,
okay
good,
but
it's
not
by
right!
This.
G
P
P
In
order
for
a
casserole
to
be
good,
it
has
to
have
great
ingredients
bacon
and
no,
no
bacon,
no
Devil's
meat,
no
Devil's
meat
at
all,
but
you
know
you
need
of
what
would
be
a
ingredient
that
would
be
not
good
for
that
casserole.
To
make
that
casserole
not
be
great
would
be
those
that
are
illegal.
P
O
I
actually
had
a
few
questions
and
a
couple
of
them
may
be
for
the
City
attorney.
That's
maybe
on
purpose
or
not
syntactically
anyways
under
11
519
C.
Two.
O
F
F
F
One
should
be
based
on
on
stage.
O
F
O
O
O
I've
got
a
constituent
in
my
district
that
has
purchased
property
in
District
1
to
the
tune
of
96
Acres
of
undeveloped
land
and
has
gone,
has
started
the
process
of
clearing
several
of
those
Acres
in
order
to
put
in
five
stvr
cabins,
and
but
the
problem
is
this.
Legislation
would
then
interrupt
the
development
that
has
already
begun,
because
those
cabins
will
be
at
least
two
or
three
of
them
will
be
within
500
feet
of
each
other.
O
So,
even
though
there
are
no
other
homes
in
the
area,
well,
not
close
by
this
new
language
would
prohibit
a
current
development
from
taking
place
so
he's
bought
the
land.
He
has
subdivided
it
to
individual
parcels
and
started
building
cabins
on
those
parcels
and
wants
them
all
to
be
as
tbrs.
That
was
a
point
of
him
purchasing
the
property
and
starting
the
development.
O
So
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there
that
I
understand
very
much
the
reason
we're
doing
density
caps.
I
just
don't
know
if
that
Nuance
might
have
been
thought
of
or
considered
within
that
density
cap,
the
entire
96
acres
is
86
or
96
I.
Remember.
A
O
R1,
so
it
is
being
subdivided,
but
again
it
is
land
separate
and
apart
from
other
residential
areas
and
built
to
only
serve
this
particular
purpose.
So
just
putting
that
out,
there
is
Food
For
Thought,
as
we
continue
to
have
this
conversation
again.
Usually
at
this
point
is
when
we
we
determine
whether
or
not
we're
ready
to
move
forward
and
based
on
the
amount
of
feedback
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
sponsor
councilman
Henderson.
What
would
you
like
to
do,
sir?
O
G
So
let
me
let
me
address
councilwoman
knows
concern
first
I,
don't
think
we'll
ever
get
everybody
in
compliance,
I
think
what
I
think
they'll
always
be
illegal.
I
mean
name
me,
a
law
that
everybody
is
compliant,
so
it
I
think
to
try
to
wait.
Till
everybody's
compliant
in
my
opinion,
is,
is
well
unreasonable
or
I.
Don't
think
we
can
expect
it
now.
G
We
can
certainly
start
dropping
the
hammer
that
there
will
always
be
somebody
to
figure
out
how
to
do
an
Enron
or
try
to
fly
under
the
radar
and
I
get
your
point.
I
mean
there's
some
operating
illegal
and
really
legislation
shouldn't
be
about
we're
a
legislative
body
we're
not
the
enforcement
body.
We
create
the
legislation
and
then
ask
the
administration
to
go
enforce
it.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
So.
H
G
Now
the
dress
councilwoman's
heels
comments
about
mesh
in
the
two
at
one
time,
I
had
thought
about
just
taking
that
the
the
legislation
that
the
administration
had
brought
forward
through
the
work
of
the
committee
and
just
confining
that
to
the
overlay,
because
in
respect
of
the
other
council
members
that
don't
have
it
in
their
districts
and
we're
not
ready
to
say,
hey,
I
I,
think
you've
got
a
handle
on
this
I
thought
why
not
just
take
that
legislation,
confine
it
to
the
overlay
and
move
forward,
lift
the
lift,
the
band
or
the
moratorium
so
that
you
know
it
looks
like
we
can
create
legislation.
G
I
got
the
impression
from
and
I'll
just
say,
the
chief
of
staff
that
they
wanted
to
separate
the
two
they
didn't
want.
They
didn't
want
to
do
just
the
overlay
and
then
expand
it.
You
know
more
broadly
at
that
point.
So
that's
when
I
decided,
okay,.
H
G
G
I
could
have
supported
that
one.
As
long
as
the
transfer
permit
path
available,
so
I
don't
have
I,
don't
really
have
a
problem
incorporating
some
of
those
other
ideas,
particularly
anything
that
that
would
address,
defining
the
ability
of
the
appeals
board
or
the
aho
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
would
take
a
great
long
while
so,
if
that's
something
that
could
be
done
in
a
week,
if
we
could
have
I
guess
this
brought
back
to
committee
next
week
with
those
items
in
there,
I
certainly
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
G
Now,
let
me
say
this
and
I've
heard.
Then
I've
heard
this
phased
in
approach
a
couple
of
times.
That's
what
this
piece
of
legislation
is.
It
is
effective
approach.
It
doesn't
lift
the
moratorium
when
we
pass
this
the
moratorium's
not
lifted
to
45
days.
One
thing
after
it
becomes
effective,
like
I
said:
that's
the
after
the
first
full
week
in
in
April.
G
One
thing:
I
learned
from
Don
Loftus
when
I
was
on
the
school
board,
is
that
work
expands
to
consume
time
allotted
if
we
give
the
administration
45
days,
if
we
give
them
60
days
or
if
we
give
them
six
months,
guess
what
that's?
How
long
it's
going
to
take
to
get
it
up
and
running?
So
all
I'm
trying
to
do
is
vote
on
something
when
we
pass
this
legislation.
That
is
a
phased
in
approach
that
it
that
immediately
the
rules
go
into
play.
G
G
The
the
people
that
want
to
go
on
with
this
know
a
date
certain
that
it's
going
to
happen
and
personally
I,
don't
I,
don't
see,
wait
until
June
to
to
put
this
in
motion
and
by
the
way,
the
sooner
we
start
enforcing
all
this
and
sooner
we
open
it
up
and
demonstrate
that
we
can
walk
and
chew
gum.
At
the
same
time,
the
sooner
the
other
council
members
that
don't
have
it
in
their
District
I
feel
like
will
start
to
see.
G
So
my
phased
in
approach
is
45
days
after
it
becomes
the
the
law
becomes
effective,
which
is
two
weeks
after
second
reading,
which
takes
two
reasons
like
I
said,
and
then
we're
going
to
delay
it
a
week
already
so
I
think
I
would
like
to
keep
the
45
days
on
there
personally,
but
but
putting
the
and
if
we
need
to
add
some
definitions-
and
we
did
add
a
few
definitions
in
in
mind
that
describe
absentee
and
Homestay.
We
can
add
a
few
more
definitions.
G
I
certainly
don't
mind,
adding
anything
that
would
help
Define
the
authority
of
the
appeals
board
and
the
aho
if
we
need
to
clean
up
the
language
Chapman
about
about
these
transfers
being
at
the
review
of
the
of
the
board,
certainly
happy
to
clean
up
that
language.
A
little
bit
I'll
get
with
feel
on
that.
G
But
I
would
like
to
request
on
having
this
backing
committee
next
week
to
address
issues
to
see
if
we're,
if
we
have
it
to
where
we
want
it
and
and
councilwoman
dotley
I
feel
strongly
that
there
needs
to
be
a
path
for
transfer
fees,
because
I
think
that
there
are
situations
and
and
the
legislation
that
the
administration
brought
forward.
G
H
G
Be
permitted
in
R3
and
R4
zones,
so
I
do
think
that
we
as
Chattanooga
need
to
offer
a
product
that
has
some
r1s
in
it.
I
do
think
there
are
entirely
appropriate
places
for
those
are
ones
to
be.
You
know,
maybe
not
necessarily
in
neighborhoods,
but
my
district
is
pretty
Rural
and
we
have
we
have
streets.
We
have
roads
where
you're
not
really
connected,
necessarily
as
a
neighborhood
like
you
might
have
in
Saint
Elmo.
So
there
are
places
there
that
appropriate.
G
You
know
and
trying
to
create
a
piece
of
legislation
where
one
size
fits
all
you've
got
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
create
some
wiggle
room
to
allow
it
where
it
is
appropriate
to
me?
The
best
way
to
do
it
is
to
create
an
appeals
board
to
adhere
a
case
for
someone
that
would
say:
hey
I'm,
in
the
middle
of
nine
acres,
I,
don't
have
anything.
In
fact,
behind
my
house,
the
littles
have
I
think
it's
about
15
Acres.
They
have
a
short-term
vacation,
they're.
F
G
A
neighborhood
it's
entirely
appropriate
for
them
to
operate
a
non-owner
occupied,
short-term
vacation,
so
I
think
we
need
to
create
a
path
for
these
R1
permits
to
transfer
in
situations
that
they
are
entirely
appropriate
and
the
only
way
that
I
know
to
do
that
is
to
put
it
in
the
hands
of
living
breathing
human
beings.
That
can
make
a
disability,
because
we
could
put
it
back
in
committee
next
week.
We'll
try
to
have
all
this
stuff
wrapped
up
and
go
from
there.
O
Before
we
before
we
set
that
time,
chairman
I
see
your
light,
councilman
Hill
I,
see
you
popped
on
I
did
say
earlier
we're
going
to
have
discussion.
Then,
let's
Mr
Anderson
talk.
Do
you
guys
want
to
go
first
or
hear
what
what
he
may
have
to
say
about.
H
C
Thank
you
very
much
chairman
I
appreciate
what
you
said
about
it.
That
was
interesting
because
it
was
said
once
before.
If
it's
good
for
the
city
overall
and
I,
I
kind
of
don't
subscribe
to
that
city
is
very
diverse
and
where
you
have
a
lot
of
acreage,
we
have
a
lot
of
Hud
type
developments,
a
lot
of
cul-de-sac,
type
developments
where
R1
exists,
but
what
you
said
about
acreage
really
I
I
would
love
for
you
to
expand
on
that
when
it
comes
to
the
appeals
board
or
thinking
about
that,
because.
I
K
H
C
G
G
C
C
Four
we
have
very
tight
neighborhoods
and
a
lot
of
people
remember
the
most
dense
of
all
night.
So
that's
where
a
lot
of
my
my
opposition
to
all
this
comes
from.
F
C
H
E
I
agree:
100,
it's
complex
and
I
think
it's
been
worth
all
the
time
we're
spending
on
it
just
for
clarity.
Next
week,
I
I'm
going
to
commit
to
this
body
that
I
will
bring
that
casserole
as
a
separate
document.
It
will
and
I'll
include
a
little
chart
where
we
can
see
what's
different
so
that
so
that
we
can,
we
could
have
an
A
and
A
B.
Is
that
if
that's
okay
with
you,
chairman
of.
E
Q
That's
good
for
councilwoman
Noel,
well
to
try
and
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
were
directly
put
to
the
administration.
Q
As
far
as
reporting
back
to
this
body,
councilwoman
Hill
I
did
send
you
not
that
long
ago,
in
this
room,
the
list
I
received
of
currently
permitted
properties
for
to
further
our
tax
discussion
from
last
week
about
what
would
happen
What.
Would
the
impact
be
to
move
those
properties
from
a
residential
tax
rate
to
a
commercial
tax
rate?
Q
I
can
provide
that
to
the
rest
of
the
council
as
well.
I
do
not
yet
have
the
listing
of
all
the
unpermitted
stvrs
by
District.
I
will
have
that
to
you
this
week.
There's
no
reason.
I
can't
provide
that
this
week
to
to
give
you
an
idea
of
where
the
issues
are
in
your
specific
districts
to
go
to
go
into
further
information
about
this,
we're
eager
to
move
forward
with
the
administration
it's
eager
to
move
forward
with
the
administrative
hearing
officer,
as
well
as
the
appeals
board.
Q
Both
of
those
things
do
take
a
little
bit
of
time,
even
if
the
appeals
board
can't
act,
we
see
the
need
for
legislation
that
go
that
goes
ahead
and
creates
that
board
and
activates
them
and
enables
me
to
recruit
people
for
the
board
and
enables
you
to
ask
me:
hey:
have
we
filled
that
board
yet
on
Tuesdays,
so
we're
eager
to
move
forward
on
those
two?
Q
Those
two
issues
specifically
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
remind
this
Council
that
a
majority
of
the
council
said
you
wanted
to
see
at
least
three
months
of
enforcement
before
you
would
consider
changes
to
our
stvr
rules
and
because
of
that
I
brought
you
a
six
months
moratorium
which
this
Council
passed.
We
are
still
operating
not
on
whatever
amount
of
time
we're
given,
but
on
that
six
month
time
that
the
council
passed
by
ordinance,
so
I
can
tell
you
we
will
not
be
ready
in
April
to
enforce
new
rules.
Q
I,
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
enforcement
from
this
Council
and
rightfully
so,
but
I'm
telling
you
ahead
of
time.
We
will
not
be
able
to
enforce
this
in
April,
so
if
it
is
passed
that
it's
not
on
the
timeline
of
the
budget,
amendment
that
we've
prepared
or
the
other
things
that
we
have
to
do,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
this
to
get
the
enforcement
that
you
seek
and
are
entitled
to,
and
I
know
that
you're
facing
pressure
from
current
operators.
Q
Believe
me
they
have
my
email
address
and
phone
number
as
well
and
I'm
hearing
from
them
on
a
regular
basis.
They
have
a
priority
of
getting
the
moratorium
open
as
soon
as
possible
so
that
they
can
open
more
units
and
I've
applaud
them
for
for
operating
their
businesses
and
wanting
to
grow.
Our
priority
is
different.
Q
Q
Some
some
of
the
operators
have
told
me
well,
my
units
are
just
going
to
sit
empty.
There's
no
need
for
that.
There
is
nothing
prohibiting
these
operators
right
now
from
signing
leases
for
30
days
or
more
as
much
as
six
months.
We
have
an
affordable
housing
crisis.
Q
There's
no
reason
for
a
dwelling
unit
to
sit
empty
in
Chattanooga
right
now,
I
will
gather
the
other
information
that
Council
has
requested
and
try
to
get
a
bunch
of
it
for
you
this
week,
but
certainly
we'll
be
prepared
to
report
on
whatever
specific
specific
information
you
want
in
this
room.
Next
Tuesday.
Okay,
thank
you.
Chris.
G
Q
G
Q
G
Point
being
we're
not
going
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
get
compliant
until
June,
I
guess
they'll
have
an
opportunity
if,
if
we
continue
down
the
path
of
waiting
from
March,
let's
see
from
March
to
June
administrative
hearing
officer
goes
goes
on
the
bench
in
June
and
March,
but
for
whatever
reason,
we're
going
to
wait
until
June
before
we
open
the
permit
process
back
up
correct.
Yes,.
G
Well,
that
was
because
we
didn't
raise
legislation
in
front
of
them
either
the
administration
asked
for
a
six-month
extension
on
the
moratorium,
because
we
didn't
have
anything
in
place.
We
didn't
have
any
tweaks.
We
didn't
have
anything
in
place
to
address
density
enforcement,
yada,
yada,
yada
and
I
think
it
was
at
up
to
that
six
months.
G
So
I
guess
my
question:
what
I
don't
understand
is
why
it's
going
to
take
March
for
June,
for
the
administrative
hearing
officer
to
get
up
and
running
and
to
be
doing
their
job
and
to
start
enforcing
anything,
I
mean
just
because
we're
taking
applications,
just
I
mean
we
can't
be
enforcing
anything
either
I
mean
applications
means
people
are
trying
to
get
legal.
So
if
they're,
legally
operating
I'm,
not
sure
where
the
problem
there
is,
it
sounds
like
to
me
they're,
going
to
be
legally
operating.
G
G
I
do
need
to
create
a
board.
We
need
to
create
an
aho
officer
to
hear
punitive
damages,
but
I
think
we
need
to
lift
the
moratorium
before
June
so
that
we
can
begin
to
demonstrate
that,
yes,
we
can
take
applications.
Yes,
we
can
process
them,
they're
going
to
be
getting
legal
and
it's
going
to
give
the
folks
an
opportunity.
That's
not
operating
legally
a
chance
to
get
legal
to
me.
It
just
makes
more
sense.
So,
even
if
we
extended
it,
you
know
to
60
days
or
something
I
mean
at
some
point.
G
G
We
have
an
opportunity
to
lift
this
moratorium
and
start
putting
into
place
some
safeguards
and-
and
even
if
it's
you
know,
the
the
casserole,
the
capsule
on
the
heels
kind
of
bring
I
just
think
we
need
to
come
together
and
get
this
figured
out
and
because
we've
reached
some
random
six-month
date,
it
just
doesn't
make
logical
sense
to
me.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
E
So
my
my
understanding
of
our
our
current
state
with
regard
to
enforcement
is
that
the
way
that
our
ordinance
is
written
now
we
we
go.
It
goes
to
court
for
the
50,
fine
that
there
is
and
there
isn't
they
they
have
not
been
told
by
us
what
they
need
to
be
doing
for
enforcement.
Am
I
I
feel
like
that
I'm,
maybe
I'm
a
I'm
a
little
disconnected
from
that
like
I,
feel
as
though
my
understanding
is
that
we
need
to
pass
an
ordinance
telling
them
what
the
rule
is.
G
E
So,
right
now
and
to
until
this
body
passes
something
and
I
mean
I
I'm
with
you
on
the
urgency.
We
need
to
make
up
our
minds
and
get
something
passed
so
that
they've
got
some
teeth
for
like
even
if
they
had
an
administrative
hearing
officer
right
now.
They
they
can't
really
fully
enforce
with
the
with
the
oomph
that
we
want.
Until
we
tell
them,
they
can
right.
F
E
Okay,
I,
because
right
now,
I
mean
Dallas
stood
up
and
talked
to
us.
I,
don't
know
last
week
or
the
week
before
that
he's
got
one
dude
and
he'll
go
out.
No,
no,
maybe
they'll
give
him.
Then
they'll
go
to
court.
Seven
million
years
later
you
know,
and
so
it's
it.
We
clearly
don't
have
the
the
assertive
enforcement.
O
Seeing
no
more
lights,
I
think
we're
we'll
bring
this
to
a
close
councilman
Henderson.
You
asked
for
this
to
be
discussed
again
next
week.
Chairman
I
will
leave
it
up
to
you
to
determine
whether
or
not
that
needs
to
be
in
committee
or
a
regular
agenda
session,
but
I
would
like
to
add
one
request:
councilman
Henderson,
you
addressed
everybody's
question
except
mom.
O
Well
then,
the
opportunity
of
somebody
that
is
out
in
the
middle
of
nowhere
that
clears
some
acreage
and
wants
to
put
in
some
cabins
putting
in
the
the
aspect
of
density
makes
sense
when
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
our
neighborhoods,
but
maybe
not
in
that
case,
and
you
may
not
have
an
answer
for
it
now,
but
I
would
like
to
know
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
something
like
that.
Well
written
into
this.
C
Yeah,
who
could
ask
a
question
of
me,
sir
legislative.