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From YouTube: JLARC Report Overview - September 27, 2023 - BOS Meeting
Description
This work session provided an update on the recent state budget actions as well as a summary of the JLARC report on state funding of K-12 education.
A
A
Topic
that
we
deferred
on
the
jaylark
update,
that's
a
joint
legislative
audit
and
Review
Committee.
They
did
an
extensive
exercise
on
school
funding
of
State
resources
and
again
standards
of
quality,
and
we
actually
had
and
Mr
Holland
and
Mr
Winslow
were
present
at
our
audit
and
finance
committee
at
j-lock's
request.
They
are
going
around
the
state
and
talking
to
as
many
people
as
possible,
they're
very
proud
of
this
effort.
B
Mr
chairman,
thanks
for
the
opportunity,
I
think
this
is
a
you
know,
really
really
important
topic
and
I.
Think
we'll.
You
know
service
some
useful
backdrop
before
we
get
into
the
heat
of
the
FY
25
budget
season.
So
all
of
you
should
have
copies
of
presentation.
Mr
Winslow,
Mr
Holland
got
one
during
the
meeting
we
put
copies
the
rest
of
your
stations
this
afternoon.
It's
a
long
presentation.
B
I
won't
go
through
the
whole
thing,
but
I
just
want
to
hit
some
highlights,
and
you
know
really
I
think
suffice
to
say
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
this
conversation,
but
I
think
it
really
does,
and
Mr
Engel
in
particular,
I
think
you
know
really
appreciate
your
amplification
of
this
issue
and
your
time
on
the
board,
but
I
think
it
again
really
is
just
sort
of
a
nice
jumping
off
point
as
we
get
into
the
FY
25
season
in
relation
to
school,
fighting
and
again
reiterates
and
kind
of
affirms
many
of
the
things
that
we've
thought
about
advancing
one
there
you
go
so
again
just
hit
the
highlights
everything
except
for
the
last
slide,
is
what
Jay
Lark
presented.
B
So
you
know
we
haven't
done
anything
to
it.
This
is
a
very
simple
diagram.
That
kind
of
shows
how
schools
are
funded
in
the
state.
I
included
this
one
here,
because
I
think
it
really
just
shows
that,
even
though
you
know
it's
kind
of
talked
about
as
a
50
50
proposition
in
general,
in
big
terms,
it
really
does
fall
primarily
on
or
disproportionately
on
locals.
You
know
Statewide,
so
you
see
it's
all
sources
in
it's
not
just
soq
stuff
here,
but
20
billion
dollars
and
I
think
this
is
FY.
B
21
was
the
last
full
set
of
data
that
Jay
Lark
used
when
they
did
the
study
you
see
locals
in
it
over
10
and
a
half
billion
dollars
of
that
total
pie
for
funding
K-12
Statewide,
the
next
series
of
slides
they
just
kind
of
did
some
comparison
of
how
Virginia
Stacks
up
again
they
chose
these
benchmarks.
This
was
not
something
that
you
know:
Chesterfield
County
staff
did
but
I
think
it's
interesting.
B
You
see
how
we
Stack
Up
not
only
against
the
50
state
average
but
sort
of
a
regional
average,
and
then
some
select
sort
of
Mid-Atlantic
States
and
more
or
less
when
you
throw
out
Tennessee
and
North
Carolina.
We
are
behind
collectively.
So
this
is
all
sources.
So
this
is
not
just
looking
at
you
know:
jurisdiction,
funding
or
state
funding.
It's
all
in
you
know,
didn't
matter
what
jaylark
looked
at.
That
was
sort
of
our
message
to
us
and
the
committee
meeting
was
you
know:
Virginia
lags
behind.
You
know
all
of
these
benchmarks.
B
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
they
looked
at
not
only
from
a
geographic
perspective
but
sort
of
on
a
funding
model
perspective,
and
so
you
see
a
number
of
you
know
different
models
here,
Virginia
the
actual
the
dark,
blue
bar
and
then
how
we
Stack,
Up
I,
think
you've
seen
there's
only
nine
states
in
the
U.S
that
use
the
same
Staffing
model
to
fund
K-12
education
as
we
do
in
Virginia,
there's
many
more
sort
of
new
age,
new
thinking,
type
models
from
a
funding
perspective
that
are
being
employed
across
the
country,
so
we're
a
little
bit
behind
from
from
the
Commonwealth's
perspective
on
that
front.
B
But
again
it
didn't
matter
which
Benchmark
you
used,
Virginia
was
was
lagging
behind
next
slide.
B
So
this
looks
at
again
I
think
this
is
kind
of
getting
into
the
meat
of,
and
this
is
what
we
have
been
saying
at
this
Podium
and
any
other
place
that
anybody
will
have
us
for
many
many
years
you
see
the
dark
blue
bar.
That's
the
soq
calculator!
That's
what
if
you
just
went
by
the
letter
of
the
law,
the
state's
model,
what
they
would
say
you
can
run
K-12
education
throughout
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia.
Again,
that's
a
combination
of
state
and
local
funding,
but
in
totality
that's
what
it
represents.
B
So
that's
10.7
billion
dollars
the
actual
expenditure
again
for
FY
21.
So
it's
considerably
higher
now,
as
you
would
imagine
you
all
have
experienced,
is
over
17
billion
dollars
and
that
Delta
Is
Made
Up
On
The
Backs
of
local
governments,
and
so
even
at
that,
so
that's
61
percent.
Over
the
soq
level.
You
see
it
still
Falls.
You
know
probably
right
there
between
some
of
those
Benchmark
models
that
we
just
looked
at,
but
I
think
we
again
we've
all
known.
We've
sensed
it.
B
We
haven't
had
the
numbers
again
in
aggregate
to
really
be
able
to
stand
up
here
and
have
this
conversation,
but
we've
all
known
that
if
we
went
by
the
soq
model
alone,
the
K-12
education
in
Chesterfield,
County
or
any
other
County
really
throughout
the
state
would
not
be
something
that
folks
would
accept.
I.
Think
again,
this
is
a
jailark
report,
a
state
report
commission
by
the
state
on
state
information
and
I
think
that
has
again
reaffirmed
that
suspicion
that
we've
held
for
for
so
long
on.
C
We
just
to
be
clear:
the
soq
would
say
that
we
would
have
over
600
less
teachers
in
over
900
less
staff
in
the
classroom
if
we
followed
that
soq.
So
the
Chesterfield
county
is
funding
100
of
the
pay
for
over
600
teachers
and
over
900
staff
in
a
classroom,
because
their
soq
levels
are
too
low
and
we
believe
that's
what
we
need
to
do
to
give
our
kids
a
proper
education.
Yes,.
B
B
If
you
read
the
jaylark
report,
there's
tiered
recommendations.
These
are
three
areas
that
they
thought
that
the
Commonwealth
was
particularly
you
know
behind
on
at-risk
students,
special
ed
and
English
language
Learners.
You
know,
as
they
looked
at
the
funding
models
for
these
sub-components.
If
you
will
of
soq,
they
thought
that
you
know
particularly
again
behind
there
were
better
funding
models
out
there
go
to
the
next
slide.
B
This
was
you
know
again.
They
looked
at
K-12
from
A
to
Z
and
one
of
the
things
they
did
look
at
the
lcis
are
local
Composite
Index.
This
is
sort
of
determines
what
percentage
of
the
bill
we
pay
as
local
governments,
and
they
did
look
at
this
and
they
said
overall,
you
know
you
can
make
some
modifications
to
it.
B
But
if
you
looked
at
the
weightings
that
exist
versus
sort
of
the
average
aggregate
average
revenue
mix
across
the
state,
they
line
up
pretty
well,
so
maybe
some
tinkering
with
Composite
Index,
but
not
anything
really
to
do
here
so
that
checked
out
pretty
well,
there's
been
some
questions
on
that
over
time,
but
that
you
know
in
their
research
held
up
pretty
well
next
slide.
B
B
If
you
did
that,
you
see
down
some
of
the
the
math
of
that
fully
replacing
the
soq
model
with
sort
of
the
National
Standard
that's
in
place
today,
1.2
billion
dollar
injection
and
I
think
they
did
a
nice
job
in
terms
of
their
recommendations
all
laid
out
in
the
presentation
we
provided
you
it's
a
menu,
so
it
doesn't
say
you
have
to
do
all
of
these
things
at
one
time.
It's
digestible.
We
certainly
recognize
that
the
Commonwealth
is
probably
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
all
that.
B
You
know
in
one
Fell
Swoop,
but
it
does
give
a
nice
sort
of
a
la
carte
way
to
to
go
about
it
next
slide.
This
is
just
what
I
was
talking
about.
You
can
see
all
the
individual
components
all
in
here.
You've
got,
you
know
in
excess
of
three
billion
dollars
of
recommendations,
but
again
they're
near-term
long
term,
and
it's
laid
out
very
well.
This
is
you
know
doing
this
presentation
and
idle
is
giving
you
a
little
sense
of
it
lines
up
well.
Miss
Spillman
is
here.
B
Y'all's
legislative
agenda
is
on
your
consent,
and
this
is
certainly
something
that
we,
in
partnership
with
the
school
division,
are
going
to
be
pushing
very
hard
with
our
legislative
folks.
We
have
a
joint
legislative
event
in
early
December,
and
you
know
we
would
consider
bringing
Jay
Lark
back
out
and
have
not
only
have
the
10
sort
of
local
folks,
but
all
of
our
general
assembly
members
hear
this
in
in
you
know
first
person
and
make
sure
everybody
is
up
to
date
on
it.
B
So
this
is
something
that
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
hear
tonight,
but
you're
gonna
hear
from
us
again
and
again.
I
know
we
have
a
Blog
going
on
some
of
this
information,
we'll
go
out
before
the
end
of
the
week.
Just
to
try
to
you
know,
spread
Awareness
on
what
we
consider
to
be
a
very,
very
good
topic,
so
we
go
to
the
last
slide
here.
Mr
Engel,
to
your
point.
These
are
summary
stats
for
just
to
kind
of
put
this
in
in
different
terms.
B
So
the
soq
says
113
000
positions
Statewide
to
run
K-12
into
Commonwealth
locals
in
total,
employ
over
171
000
individuals.
So
that's
that's
exactly
Mr
Engel
what
you
were
talking
about,
but
when
you
look
at
it
again,
Statewide
I
think
it's
just
staggering.
That
equates
to
a
1.3
billion
dollar
difference
in
salary
between
what
soq
says
should
be
funded
and
what's
actually
funded
and
again.
This
is
a
few
years
ago.
B
You
all
in
many
divisions
across
the
state,
have
worked
hard
on
teacher
pay,
so
that
differential
has
only
gone
up
and
the
average
in
what
they
consider
to
be
very
large
school
divisions.
That's
enrollment
of
over
30
000
students,
that's
an
average
difference,
a
Delta
of
139
million
dollars.
Obviously
that's
skewed,
probably
a
little
bit
by
your
fairfaxes,
but
not
much,
and
if
you
look
at
our
stats,
which
we
you
know
we
talk
about
here
at
the
end,
just
an
soq
funded
categories.
B
You
know
our
best
estimate
we're
between
105
and
110
million
dollars
in
excess
over
the
model.
So
it
lines
up
pretty
well
with
139
million
dollars
recognizing
again
that
some
of
those
Northern
Virginia
localities
do
probably
you
know,
push
that
a
little
bit.
The
third
one
I
thought
was
interesting.
It
talks
about
there's
a
cost
of
compete
adjustment
for
salaries,
but
it
only
occurs
in
Northern
Virginia.
B
The
report
goes
through
and
shows
that
even
the
amount
that
they
give
to
Northern
Virginia
localities
is
far
below
what
is
needed,
sort
of
adjust
for
those
costs
of
living.
We
don't
get
that
in
Central
Virginia.
We
don't
get
that
in
Tidewater.
That
certainly
contributes
to
the
large
Delta
that
we
have
to
put
in
as
a
locality
to
make
up
for
that
cost
of
compete.
B
So
if
you
take
all
of
you,
go
back
to
that
that
menu
in
the
previous
slide,
it's
in
your
mind.
We
took
all
of
those
recommendations
and
aggregated
added
them
all
up.
We
would
have
a
226
million
dollar
and
some
change
in
additional
investment
from
the
state
in
Chesterfield,
County
schools
and
that's
a
one-year
number.
That's
you
did
everything
on
that
list,
which
again
we
recognize
they're
not
going
to
get
all
that
done
in
one
year,
but
I
think
it
really
puts
into
scale
the
dollars
that
we're
talking
about.
B
If
you
consider
this
and
talk
from
Dr
Casey,
you
drag
that
back
a
few
years,
and
as
many
years
as
this
has
been
in
place
and
some
of
the
things
that
they
did
come
out
of
the
Great
Recession
have
never
been
restored.
I
mean
it
doesn't
take
long
to
get
to
a
massive
amount
of
underfunding
by
the
Commonwealth
by
their
own
admission.
The
other
piece
of
this,
as
you
know,
from
the
LCI
conversation
you
don't
get
a
dollar
from
the
state
unless
you
match
it
to
a
certain
degree.
B
Ours
is
around
35
percent,
so
we
would
have
a
required
local
effort
here
on
this
amount
about
127
million
dollars,
but
in
those
soq
categories
already
in
place
today
you
know
we're
again
105
to
110.
You
know,
depending
on
which
exact
categories
you
put
into
it,
but
the
majority
overwhelming
majority
of
that
required
local
effort.
They
called
tomorrow
and
said:
here's
a
check
for
227
million
dollars.
B
You
owe
us
127,
the
first
100,
plus
million
of
that
is
already
being
invested
in
the
school
division,
and
so
we
would
be
able
to
draw
down
in
that
theoretical
world.
You
know
basically
all
of
that
money,
because
we
have
been
funding
at
these
levels
for
so
long.
So
again
we're
going
to
go
back
through
this
many
many
times
you're
going
to
hear
you
know
the
jail.
B
D
Mr,
chairman
Mr,
Holland
and
I
did
hear
of
this
report
from
Jay
Larkin,
and
we
certainly
want
to
thank
again
Jay
Lark
for
coming
to
audit
and
finance
and
sharing
this
with
us.
D
Obviously,
the
numbers
are
not
a
huge
surprise
to
those
of
us
who
have
been
on
this
board
for
many
years
and
have
watched
the
state's
annual
funding
conversation
as
it
relates
to
Local
Schools,
so
105
million
dollars
over
the
soq
I
think
that's
an
important
number,
because
I
think
that
represents
close
to,
let's
say
30
cents
on
the
real
estate
rate.
D
If
you
were
to
you,
know,
take
a
look
at
at
what
we
are
currently
getting
per
person
on
real
estate.
So
when
I
take
a
look
at
that,
that's
a
substantial
amount
of
money
and
for
the
the
argument
that
is
sometimes
put
out
there
that
that
the
County
government
has
not
been
pulling
its
weight.
I
think
this
really
runs
counter
to
that.
D
In
recent
years,
we
have
worked
with
the
school
board
to
develop
a
joint
legislative
agenda
and
I
hope
that
we
will
continue
that
this
year,
because
this
is,
of
course
not
the
only
area
in
which
we
have
an
unfunded
mandate
from
the
state.
We
have
it
in
transportation
Nation.
We
have
it
in
our
constitutional
offices
and
we
have
it
in
a
lot
of
other
places,
but
this
is
pretty
important
to
a
lot
of
people
and
I'm
proud
of
this
board.
D
I'm
proud
of
the
record
investment
in
education,
we've
made
over
the
last
term
and
I
think
there's
always
more
to
do,
but
I
think
this
board
has
a
strong
record
in
paying
teachers
and
getting
these
supports
in
the
classroom.
You
think
about
the
classroom.
Now
we
have
80
plus
languages
being
spoken
in
the
Chesterfield
County
public
school
system.
That
requires
a
lot
of
Labor
and
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
keep
this
in
mind.
D
B
Two
two
other
thoughts:
Mr
Winslow
I'd,
appreciate
those
comments,
this
hundred
plus
million
dollars
here,
that's
this
sort
of
thing:
a
school
funding
in
three
chunks.
There's
our
soq
required
piece.
This
is
our
premium
on
top
of
soq
and
then
I
I'd
be
remiss
without
pointing
out
all
your
debt
service.
All
your
Capital
is
on
top
of
this.
It
does
not
run
through
the
soq
model.
That's
not
something
that
the
state
participates
in
so
the
entirety
of
you
know.
B
We
saw
had
a
great
presentation
from
schools
this
afternoon
and
all
the
work
that's
happening
from
in
school
infrastructure.
That's
in
addition
to
all
that's
a
whole
nother
presentation,
a
whole
nother
slide
and
the
only
thing
I'll
notice
is
and
spilling
myself
and
others
working
through
it.
The
state
did
do
some
level
of
investment
through
this
budget
that
they
just
passed.
We
have
not
seen
the
details
of
that
and
really
in
any
agency,
you
know
education
being
no
different
than
that,
so
this
number
could
get
whittled
away
a
little
bit.
B
It
looks
like
there's
some
movement
moving
support
cap,
maybe
some
other
areas,
certainly
not
200
million
dollars
worth
but
In
fairness
to
them.
I
think
they
did
make
some
small
inroads
and
we
hope
to
be
able
to
have
those
details
for
you
and
report
back
in
October
on
what
that
looks.
Like
Mr,
Engel,
Mr.
C
Chair
you
mentioned
LCI
in
for
Chesterfield
County.
It's
I
believe
it's
0.354,
but
it's
very,
very
close.
B
C
C
Seven
percent
more
of
their
schools
in
Chesterfield
County
chessfield,
is
actually
on
the
bottom
half
through
the
LCI
of
the
funding
that
is
required
by
the
locality
and
therefore
there's
many
people
that
have
said
that,
because
Chesterfield's
been
in
less
dollars
per
student
than
the
average
in
the
state
that
we're
underfunding,
schools
but
they're,
not
looking
at
the
LCI.
That
shows
that
we're
supposed
to
be
paying
less
than
the
average,
because
this
state's
formula
says
we're
only
supposed
to
pay
35
percent.
C
The
states
in
their
formula
would
say
that
the
average
is
closer
to
40,
plus
percent
of
the
funding.
That's
coming
in
I
when
I
did
some
quick
numbers.
Originally
I
was
looked
at
what
the
state
was
funding
and
figured
out
what
we're
funding
and
we
were
actually
over
funding
schools
according
to
the
states
LCI
by
about
63
million.
At
that
time,
when
I
calculated
it
and
if
I
revert
I
didn't
believe
we
were
overpaying
because
I
think
we're
actually
right
paying
so
I
reversed.
C
The
formula
and
that
showed
that
the
state
was
closer
to
117
million
at
the
time
shorting
our
students
in
the
county
and
I
think
there's
a
big
misunderstanding
in
the
county
about
the
way
schools
are
funded
and
what
the
percentages
are
and
why
those
percentages
are
what
they
are.
C
But
it's
caused
a
big
misunderstanding,
especially
with
ptas,
to
think
that
we're
underfunding,
schools
and
I
hope
that
this
Jay
Lark
study
and
this
information
coming
out
to
them
will
help
them
to
better
understand
that
what
they're
looking
at
is
not
actually
a
full
picture
of
anything.
It's
just
a
snapshot
of
one
bar
chart
on
one
graph
that
the
state
put
out
and
I
believe
that
we
we
have
very
well
funded
our
schools.
C
I
went
to
the
next
step
and
said:
not
only
do
we
need
to
partner
with
our
school
board,
but
we
need
to
partner
with
our
regional
peers
in
the
area
and
at
the
time
I
was
thinking,
Henrico,
Hanover
school
systems,
similar
in
character
to
ours,
but
after
conversation
with
yourself
and
some
others,
we
are
members
of
the
plan
RVA
and
the
crater
PDC
and
I'm
calling
for
all
of
our
partners
in
both
the
plan
RVA
and
crater
PDC,
to
sit
down
with
their
school
boards
and
work
with
us
and
sit
down
with
our
state
legislature
on
a
bigger
picture
on
a
grander
scale
and
share
this
information
and
demand
that
the
state
fund,
our
schools,
so
that
our
students
can
get
adequate
education.
E
So
it
I
don't
want
to
fall
into
kind
of
the
thought
of
rationalization.
Well,
we've
worked
so
hard,
I
mean
the
taxpayers.
Are
the
ones
been
footing
the
bill,
and
that
means
that
they're,
the
ones
that
have
been
holding
this
load
carrying
this
load
for
the
Commonwealth?
But
in
the
final
analysis,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
partner
with
the
board
we've
partnered
with
the
Chesterfield
Education
Association,
with
the
school
board,
with
the
cea
to
work
together
the
power
struggle,
nobody
wins
in
a
power
struggle,
and
so
how
can
we
work
together?
E
So
when
they
say
fully
funding
the
schools?
Are
we
making
sure
that
the
kids
are
safe?
Are
we
making
sure
that
these
kids
aren't
in
trailers?
Are
we
making
sure
that
the
infrastructure
is
in
place
that
the
teachers
feel
well
supported
that
the
mental
health
within
the
schools
that
those
kind
of
supports
are
there
all
those
things?
So
I
am
continuing
to
be
a
strong
Advocate
I
think
we
have
a
lot
to
be
proud
of,
and
at
the
same
time,
oh,
my
do.
We
have
lot
of
work
yet
to
do.
F
Mr
Holland
Mr
chairman
that
I
will
link
from
that
point.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
We've
done
a
tremendous
job
and
this
report
is
evidence
of
what
we've
known
I've
known
for
many
years,
and
that
is
that
the
formula
was
flawed
and
that
the
funding
should
have
been
far
better.
But
you
know
the
good
news.
F
So
this
is
a
call
to
arms
or
call
to
March,
if
you
will
to
March,
along
with
our
legislative
delegation
to
let
them
know
that
we
have
work
to
do
to
work
with
the
governor
and
the
general
assembly
come
money
to
better
fund
our
schools.
Now
I,
don't
expect
them
to
do
it.
All
at
one
time,
the
good
news
is
that
there's
honest
as
I
understand
it.
The
governor
did
put
635
or
650
million
dollars
additional
this
year
in
his
budget
for
Education.
That's
a
good
news
and
that's
a
great
start.
F
However,
what
I
would
like
for
us
to
do
is
work
with
them
collaboratively
to
fund
this
over
a
series
of
years.
Maybe
we'll
get
to
the
point
where
we
need
to
be
we'll
eradicate
that
100
million
dollars,
but
we
want
to
do
it
probably
overnight.
F
School
counterparts,
chair
and
vice
chair
and
I-
think
that's
something
we've
done
since
maybe
2019
or
whatever.
So
that's
worked
very
well
here
in
Chesterfield
and
that's
why
we're
consider
a
model
throughout
the
state
and
how
to
get
things
done
in
local
government
to
make
a
difference
for
the
citizens.
The
students,
then
teachers
here
in
Chesterfield,
County.
So
again,
my
profound
Thanks
for
j-lock.
For
for
doing
this
study,
which
was
really
pervasive.
F
When
you
look
at
the
surrounding
states
such
as
North
Carolina,
my
home
state,
I
I'm,
not
surprised
with
that
as
well,
and
what
I
read.
But
again,
my
profound
thanks
to
this
work,
this
research,
which
gives
us
a
chance
to
move
forward
together,
communicating
on
one
page
to
write
information
about
funding
education
here
in
Chesterfield
and
throughout
the
state
of
Virginia,
because
I
am
fully
believing
and
I
believe
that
we
can
be
the
number
one
state
in
the
nation
in
education.
F
That's
one
of
my
goals
not
only
make
Chesterfield
number
one,
but
but
to
make
Virginia
number
one
in
the
nation
in
education.
We
can
do
it
and
I
share
that
with
the
governor
when
he
came
about
a
month
ago,
I
said
we
can
be
number
one
we're
considered.
Fourth
in
the
nation,
but
we
can
be
number
one
I
think
the
governor
believes
as
well
and
I'm
willing
to
work
toward
that
in.
Thank
you
for
sharing
this
tonight
and,
of
course,
I.
F
G
Yeah
I
think
it's
important
the
presentation
that
you
did
to
get
it
out
into
the
community
to
understand
that
you
know
what
jail
Arc
actually
is
when
you
do
a
study
like
that,
it's
it's
conducted,
it's
hired
out
by
the
general
assembly
and
they're
reporting
back
with
the
general
assembly
is
actually
not
has
not
done
in
Virginia,
and
that
is
an
indictment
quite
frankly
of
legislators
and
previous
administrations.
G
That
did
not
recognize
the
fact
that
what
we've
been
saying
for
years
that
the
localities
have
been
picking
up
the
tab
of
what
we
needed
to
do.
You
know
look.
We
did
the
pay
study
for
our
Public
Safety.
We
did
it
for
our
teachers.
We
did
it
for
our
non-public
safety
non-teachers,
because
we
knew
that
we
were
not
paying
them.
Quite
frankly,
the
market,
salary
and
compensation
that
they
needed
and
when
you
look
at
a
budget
like
this,
the
biggest
part
of
any
budget
is
selling
compensation.
G
So
that's
what
the
issue
is,
but
imagine
if
we
did
have
the
additional
funds.
No,
some
some
of
the
things
that
we
hear
from
the
community
is
that
we're
not
catching
up
on
an
infrastructure.
Quick
enough
well
with
the
presentation
we
did
earlier,
we
certainly
know
that
we're
building
you
know
new
new
middle
schools,
new
high
schools,
new
elementary
schools
and
and
but
that's
the
taxpayer's
burden
that
authorized
a
bond
referendum.
To
do
some
of
these.
G
Now
we
did
some
creative
financing
to
get
to
two
middle
schools
out
of
the
ground
quicker
and
because
we're
a
triple
a
triple
A.
We
actually
have
a
better
credit
rating
than
the
United
States
government,
because
we
have
such
a
good
credit
rating.
We
got
a
great
deal
on
that
that
funding,
but
you
know
it's
a
balance.
I
mean
if
you
look
at
the
presentation
we
did
earlier
on
on
transportation
and
how
much
Transportation
money
we're
spending
in
on
all
of
the
different
things.
G
G
C
Engel
one
last
Point,
we
talked
about
teachers
pay
a
little
bit
in
Chesterfield
County
for
a
30-year
career
when
you
compare
us
to
our
closest
peers,
Henrico
and
Hanover
I'm,
just
going
to
Henrico,
because
they're
the
next
closest
to
us
over
a
30-year
period.
With
the
exception
of
several
years
in
the
early
years,
Chesterfield
County
pays
more
than
any
other
jurisdiction.
That's
in
our
peer
group
in
the
area
and
over
30
years
we're
paying
over
sixty
thousand
dollars
more
to
our
teachers
in
Chesterfield
County
than
they
would
receive.
C
If
they
worked
in
Hanover
County
I
mean
in
Henrico,
County
and
I.
Think
people
don't
understand
that
because
they
think
that
if
they
look
at
our
say
tier
10,
which
is
10
years,
they
think
that
they
would
look
at
tier
10
for
Henrico,
but
Henrico
only
gives
a
teacher
pay
raise
once
every
three
years,
so
tier
10
in
Henrico
is
a
30-year
pay
salary,
not
a
10-year
pay
salary.
So
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
misconception
on
that
as
well,
but
we
are
far
out
paying
over
30
years
any
other
jurisdiction.
E
Miller
and
kind
of
picking
up
with
Mr
Engel
I
mean
we
can't
pay
the
teachers
enough
I
mean
what
they
do
is
priceless
income
is
important,
but
they're
paying
attention
to
outcome,
they're,
paying
attention
to
the
kind
of
students
that
ultimately
will
be
able
to
be
successful
in
whatever
they
decide.
So
I
agree
with
you
in
that
we
were
doing
a
good
job.
That
being
said,
the
question
is
or
just
remembering
that
what
they
do
is
priceless.
E
F
Chairman
I
just
have
to
to
chime
in
on
that,
because
I
think
that's
so
very
important.
We
did
an
excellent
pay
plan
three
years
ago,
two
years
ago,
when
I
served
as
chair
of
this
board
and
I
was
so
proud
of
that.
What
we
did
for
a
10-year
teacher,
for
example,
was
a
10
raise
here
in
Chesterfield
County,
and
we
could.
We
I
believe
we
can
do
better
I
think
we
can
do
more
and
I
think
the
state
needs
to
do
more
as
well,
but
collaboratively.
F
We
can
truly
get
to
that
point
where
we
pay
teachers
truly
how
they
should
be
paid,
because
education
is
a
wonderful
thing
for
any
community
and
that's
what
make
Chesterfield
County
unique.
We
value
education,
our
citizens,
value
education,
and
so
when
we
can
work
toward
paying
our
teachers
more
and
better
I'm
in
full
support
of
debt.
So
thank
you.
I
just
had
to
say
that,
as
it
released
our
last
pay
plan,
which
I
was
very
pleased
to
approve
with
this
board
three
years
ago,
as
chair.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Holland,
I.
Think
the
the
key
measure
to
look
forward
in
the
future
is
to
make
sure
that
we
work
with
the
school
board
to
make
sure
that,
when
their
budget
comes
forward,
that
we
are
looking
at
the
salary
to
make
sure
that
we
are
moving
it
kind
of
measure
it
forward
as
we
need
to
to
continue
to
be
competitive,
not
just
for
teachers
but
for
all
of
our
County
employees
and
that's
an
important
factor
moving
forward.
It's
it's
one
thing:
to
put
the
pay
plan
in
place.