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Redistricting - 7:20
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A
Three
two
good
evening
welcome
to
ongoing
general
election
coverage
by
town
meeting
television.
This
is
one
of
a
series
of
forums
where
bringing
you
in
advance
of
the
general
election
in
November
time,
meeting
TV,
hosts
forums
with
all
candidates
and
covers
all
ballot
items.
You
will
see
on
your
November
ballot,
town
meeting,
TV
election
forums,
introduce
you
to
community
decision
makers
and
connect
you
with
issues
that
shape
your
local
community.
A
A
A
A
I'll
work
from
infinite
over
this
way.
For
the
moment,
please
tell
us
why
you
are
running
and
what
experience
you're
bringing
to
the
position,
what
will
be
different
for
the
people
of
your
District
or
the
state
as
a
whole,
because
you
have
been
elected
to
this
position
and
what
qualifies
you
to
make
those
changes
happen.
B
B
So
one
thing
that
would
be
different
about
me
serving
as
a
senator
my
player
representing
Chittenden
County
Central,
is
that
people
will
actually
know
who
they
send.
Their
Senator
is
I.
You
know
talk
to
a
lot
of
people
and
a
lot
of
people
actually
don't
know
who
this
is
so
I
will
be
a
lot
more
accessible
and
I
will
be
using
a
local
knowledge
to
drive
and
guide
my
policy
agenda
and
priorities,
and
my
experience
really
I
think
will
allow
me
to
build
the
community's
capacity
to
hold
us
accountable,
as
public
officials.
Great.
D
D
As
a
state
representative,
I
fought
hard
to
make
space
in
committee
rooms
for
the
people,
most
impacted
by
policy
changes
to
be
heard,
whether
that
was
tenants
who
had
been
evicted
for
no
cause
or
are
teachers
and
state
employees
when
their
pensions
were
under
attack.
I
found
that
incredibly
important
that
we
brought
their
voices
into
the
room
with
us.
I
also
worked
hard
to
pass
act
117
which
streamlines
the
mental
health
licensure
process
and
sets
up
a
Workforce
Development
task
force
populated
almost
entirely
by
people
who
are
underrepresented
in
that
field.
A
E
E
So
it's
something
where
you
work
on
what
you
thought
you
were
going
to
work
on,
but
you
also
pick
up
the
emergency
pieces
as
they
come
to
you.
So
over
the
last
three
years,
I've
been
doing
what
a
lot
of
my
Senator
colleagues
have
been
doing,
and
that
is
overseeing
the
administration
in
terms
of
how
we
respond
to
the
pandemic,
but,
most
importantly,
deciding
where
the
federal
money
goes.
That
has
washed
into
the
state,
and
it's
been
a
lot
of
money.
So
we've
been
trying
to
make
those
Investments
transformational
big
Investments.
E
A
F
You
Annie
and
it's
nice
to
see
all
of
you
in
person
last
time
we
did
this.
We
were
on
zoom
and
so
it's
great
to
be
here
in
person.
Thank
you.
Channel
17,
as
always,
I
am
running,
because
because
we
need
folks
in
Montpelier
who
are
good
collaborators
more
than
ever,
we
need
folks
who
are
willing
to
work
across
party
lines,
work
across
ideologies
and
be
effective
and
efficient
legislators,
creating
legislation
that
supports
all
vermonters.
F
As
someone
who
has
spent
my
life
working
in
education,
I've
seen
the
struggles
that
Vermont
families
face,
whether
it
be
housing,
insecurity,
food
and
security,
mental
health
issues,
systemic
racism.
These
are
struggles
that
I've
seen
firsthand
in
my
classroom
in
the
classrooms
of
my
colleagues
and
in
the
school
community
in
general.
F
Already
I've
worked
to
pass,
help
pass
or
encourage
our
legislators
to
pass
legislation
around
school
funding,
and
it's
exciting
to
know
that
for
the
first
time
in
Vermont's
history,
we're
going
to
have
a
funding
system
that
is
Equitable
across
across
the
board,
whether
our
students
are
from
living
in
poverty
or
they're
from
rural
areas,
or
they
are
English
language
Learners.
They
will
be
getting
the
resources
that
they
need
to
thrive
and
succeed.
A
Think
what
I'll
do
now
is
if
you
went
first
now,
you
go
last
if
you're
in
second
now
you
go
first
of
it
we'll
do
like
that
and
I
think
I'll
work.
My
way,
our
second
question
of
this
evening
involves
redis
redistricting,
starting
with
Tanya.
Briefly
tell
us
how
redistricting
has
impacted
your
election
and
the
constituents
in
your
District.
How
are
you
connecting
with
voters
Tanya.
D
Yeah,
absolutely
so
redistricting,
obviously
Shrunk
The
District
from
being
almost
a
county-wide
district
to
being
a
three-seat
district
representing
the
most
densely
populated
parts
of
Chittenden,
County
and
I.
Believe
the
shift
really
will
allow
Senators
representing
this
District
to
do
a
better
job
connecting
with
their
constituents.
The
redist
districting
process
also
increased
the
number
of
Chittenden
County
Senate
seats,
and
one
of
the
new
seats
is
located
in
this
Central
District
and
with
retirements
that
actually
meant.
There
were
two
open
seats
in
the
district
and
I
think.
D
With
this
record
turnover,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
change
the
makeup
of
the
Senate
and
welcome
some
new
voices
I'm,
using
a
lot
of
tools
to
connect
with
voters
from
events
and
making
sure
they
have
literature
and
making
phone
calls
using
the
media
and
mailings
and,
of
course,
continuing
to
respond
to
constituent
questions
as
they
come
in
for
my
current
seat.
Upcoming
we'll
also
be
hosting
a
couple
of
issues-based
town
halls
to
hear
from
voters
about
what's
important
to
them,
as
well
as
some
of
the
priorities
I
have
going
forward.
D
A
E
It's
a
very
strange
thing
now
to
lose
all
those
people
that
I've
worked
on
behalf
of
and
that
I've
known,
and
they
call
me
up,
and
they
say
I
just
found
out,
I
can't
vote
for
you
and
I'm
sad
to
lose
them
and
they're
sad
to
lose
me
hopefully,
but
I
think
Tanya's
right.
You
know
we
needed
to
break
up
the
district.
We
were
the
only
six-member
District
in
the
in
the
country
and
it
was
at
root,
anti-democratic,
I,
think,
and
so
now
we're
a
smaller
District.
E
We
can
meet
with
fewer
towns,
fewer
people
but
more
quality
in
those
meetings.
So
this
is
one
of
the
ways
that
I'm
trying
to
reach
out
to
people
is
through
Channel
17
and
Community
Access,
but
also
social,
media
and
and
direct
mail.
I
think
is
the
the
best
way
to
get
to
people,
although
they
have
competing
realities
and
sometimes
they
throw
your
stuff
out.
But
I
would
say:
please
read
it
if
it
comes
to
you.
A
F
You
yes,
so
I
was
relatively
excited
when
I
saw
the
new
District,
it
gives
me
an
opportunity
to
be
a
leader
in
communities
that
I
have
a
long
history
with
I
grew
up
in
South
Burlington,
but
I
grew
up
right
over
the
Lime
Kiln
Bridge,
so
Winooski
was
really
my
neighbor
was
a
community
that
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
my
mom's
French
Canadian.
So
back
in
back
in
the
day
in
the
70s
you
know,
Winooski
was
a
really
strong
French
Canadian
presence
I
watched
the
Woolen
Mill
go
from
a
dilapidated
abandoned
building.
F
F
That
is
where
I
spent
my
a
professional
career
working
at
the
technical
center,
as
well
as
the
high
school
and
Burlington
is
where
I've
lived
for
the
last
25
years,
where
I've
raised
my
my
family,
where
my
kids
attended
school
and
where
I'm
a
three-term
school
commissioner,
so
I
feel
as
though
all
these
all
three
of
these
communities
are
home
to
me
and
I'm
excited
to
serve
all
of
them.
Thank.
A
B
Pretty
sure
I
would
not
be
running
if
the
district
was
still
the
same
if
if
I
had
to
Canvas
and
campaign
and
Milton
and
and
Shelburne
and
and
the
entire
Chittenden
County.
So
when
I
saw
the
new
map,
I
thought.
Okay,
this
is
a
reasonable
amount
of
ground
cover
for
an
independent
candidate
with
low
resources.
I
I
wish
I
could
afford
to
do
mailing
and
so
I've
been
connecting
with
folks
meeting
people
where
they
are
at
the
grocery
store.
B
Coffee,
public
events-
and
you
know
Winooski-
is
a
place
where
I've
done
a
lot
of
organizing
in
the
Winooski
School
District,
so
that
it's
been
easy
to
reconnect
with
folks
in
that
Community
a
walk
around
neighborhoods
a
lot
in
Burlington
and
Essex
is
the
place.
The
farthest
of
you
know
away
from
from
where
I
am
where
I'm
gonna
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
work
with
connecting
with
folks.
A
E
E
We
took
up
the
issue
of
chokeholds,
which
we
banned,
and
that
was
a
bill
that
I
put
through
that
I
was
glad
to
see
go
all
the
way.
We
also
banned
the
teaching
of
the
Chokehold
in
the
state
of
Vermont,
and
we
redid
the
entire
use
of
force
statute
so
that
there
are
now
different
rules
being
promulgated
rules
that
take
into
account
the
idea
that
in
many
ways
we
had
people
who
were
under
trained
and
overusing
force
in
my
own
opinion,
so
we've
done
real
work
on
that
we
have
other
places.
E
We
need
to
go
I
think
personally,
we
need
to
get
rid
of
life
without
parole,
which
is
something
that
disproportionately
impacts,
people
in
the
correctional
system
of
color,
as
well
as
the
rates
of
prosecution
and
other
contacts
with
the
police.
So
the
data
that
we're
getting
now
is
very
useful
in
that
way,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
mention
is
that
we
created
a
division
of
racial
Justice
statistics
specifically
to
take
in
the
data
and
crunch
the
data
on
disparities
in
the
system,
and
that
will
be
useful
going
forward.
Great.
A
Thank
you
so
much
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
I
had
given
the
correct
impactful
solemnity
to
the
to
the
question.
I
think
maybe
I
did
not,
but
your
conversation
put
me
there.
So
thank
you
for
Martine.
How
does
Chittenden
County
address
crime?
Is
there
a
problem
with
policing
that
needs
reform?
How
would
you
address
Community
safety?
Thank.
F
F
Although
I
I
understand
that
police
forces
assist
each
other
I,
don't
get
the
sense
that
there's
necessarily
A
coordinated
system
in
Chittenden
County
and
each
Community
has
its
own
challenges
its
own
needs
here
in
Burlington
because
of
attrition
and
because
of
some
Cuts
we
obviously
have
had
some
issues
around
our
police
force
and
retention
and
our
numbers
dwindling.
That's
something
that
you
hear
about
a
lot,
but
in
terms
of
Reform
absolutely
we
need
reform.
F
We
see
that
people
from
the
global
majority
are
arrested
at
a
higher
rate
than
white
folks
for
sure
they're
treated
differently
as
well.
We
have
seen
over
the
last
few
years,
black
people
killed
and
murdered
by
our
police
force,
and
this
is,
you
know,
absolutely
not
to
be
tolerated.
What
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
give
police
officers
not
only
bias,
training
and
anti-racism
training,
but
also
the
tools
that
they
need
to
succeed.
F
They've
been
asking
for
years
for
wrap
around
services
and
services
from
social,
social
workers
and
mental
health
providers,
as
well
as
addiction
specialists.
They
need
that
kind
of
support.
I,
it's
a
complex
issue,
I,
don't
believe
in
defunding.
The
police,
but
I
am
in
favor
of
sweeping
police
reform.
A
B
Yeah
Martinez
right,
it
depends
on
where
you
live.
Police
services
are
being
rationed
out
right
now
and
so
Now's
the
Time
to
get
serious
about
alternative
responses
to
Crime
and
I
think
it
was
decided
in
our
primary
election
of
the
State's
Attorney's
level
that
decriminalizing
poverty
is
a
value
that
we
want
to
use
to
to
guide
our
Public
Safety
measures.
B
And
so
you
know
we
need
to
I've
in
I,
live
in
Old
North
End,
where
it's
very
intense
and
so
I'm,
seeing
a
need
for
a
localized
approach
to,
and
maybe
a
public
health
approach
to,
violence
prevention,
so
that
communities
are
empowered
to
be
less
dependent
on
the
now
on
our
Police
Department
I
I
think
it's
unfair
actually
to
police
that
we
call
them
for
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
that
we
rely
on
them
for
a
lot
of
the
calls
that
we
get.
We
need
a
different
way
of
addressing.
A
D
Chapman
County,
like
the
rest
of
the
United
States,
has
a
serious
issue
of
inhumanity,
Injustice
and
inequity
within
our
criminal
justice
system,
and
we
really
do
need
to
fundamentally
overhaul
this
system
so
that
it
is
grounded
in
restoration,
treatment
and
meeting
the
needs
of
our
community
members.
When
I
was
in
grad,
school
I
was
able
to
study
abroad
and
was
exposed
to
a
completely
different
system.
D
A
system
that
costs
less
is
humanely,
treats
people
and
drastically
has
lower
rates
of
recidivism
and
it
utilizes
community,
building
and
treatment,
resources
and
I
think
we
need
to
move
quickly
in
this
direction.
Our
current
system
is
hurting
everyone
in
our
society.
It's
hurting
the
people
who
work
within
the
system,
those
who
have
been
incarcerated
in
every
one
of
our
community
members.
We
have
to
remove
Health
and
Human
Service
issues
from
the
criminal
justice
system
and
instead
build
out
our
treatment
systems.
D
We
have
to
stop
decriminalizing
poverty,
as
infinite
said,
and
when
we
discuss
Community
safety,
we
have
to
think
Beyond,
policing
and
criminal
justice
and
instead
into
making
sure
that
our
communities
have
been
invested
in
so
that
all
members
have
their
needs
met
and
in
terms
of
policing.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
significant
reform
and
a
first
step
towards
that
reform
is
robust,
citizen
oversight.
Right
now
we
ask
our
police
to
police
themselves
in
that's,
not
working
I
introduced
H4
460
last
year,
based
on
model
policy
from
Nebraska
and
insights
from
the
ACLU.
D
That
would
build
out
citizen
oversight
for
our
Municipal
police
officers
and
they've
been
working
to
strengthen
and
fine-tune
this
bill
in
the
off
session.
Making
sure
we
bring
in
the
voices
of
everyone,
who's
been
impacted
and
harmed
by
our
present
system
and
I
intend
to
reintroduce
a
stronger
Bill
next
biennium,
and
there
will,
of
course
be
more
work
to
do
from
there,
including
taking
recommendations
from
the
qualified
immunity
report.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Tanya
I
believe
we
are,
you
know,
I,
think
we're.
Moving
on
to
a
topic.
Oh
did
I
I
started
with
you
right.
That
idea
was
a
great
one.
Annie
on
the
topic
of
Education
I'm,
going
to
start
with
you
Martin
the
legislature,
yeah
I
did
the
legislature
can
make
impacts
on
how
education
is
funded
Statewide.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question
Annie.
So
that
is
a
great
question
and
not
an
easy
one.
As
we
all
know,
education
funding
is
extremely
complex
and
complicated.
There
are
folks
who
are
calling
for
a
change
from
a
property
tax
based
system
to
one
that
is
more
focused
on
or
based
on,
income
tax,
and
you
know,
and
before
I,
get
into
that.
F
Providing
that
kind
of
Equitable
funding
and
the
resources
to
all
of
our
kids
across
the
state
is
just
so
incredibly
important,
but
getting
back
to
the
funding
piece
yeah.
So
if
we
go
to
a
an
income-based
system,
that
seems
to
be
a
good
fix
and
yet
we
know
there
are
vermonters
who
show
very
little
income
if
any
income
at
all
but
have
inherited
wealth
from
their
families,
have
Inherited
property
real
estate
and
also
folks
who
are
retired,
who
do
have
the
means
to
pay
into
the
system.
So
that
is
not
necessarily
a
perfect
fix.
F
I
would
imagine
that,
ultimately,
there
will
be
half
there
will
have
to
be
some
kind
of
a
hybrid
system,
but
the
key
to
fixing
the
system
is
really
ability
to
pay.
We
need
to
look
at
how
who
and
and
how
folks
can
pay,
who
have
the
ability
to
do
so.
That
is
the
most
fair
and
Equitable
and
just
way
to
pay
for
education.
A
C
A
D
You
thank
you.
Yes,
I,
absolutely
think
we
have
to
shift
how
we
fund
education.
Our
current
system
is
overly
complicated.
It
is
income
sensitized
for
about
the
bottom
two-thirds
of
earners.
However,
the
top
one-third
is
really
not
paying
its
fair
share
into
the
system,
and
we
have
tax
commission
reports
that
have
shown
that
it
does
make
sense
to
shift
to
an
income-based
model
that
can
include
capital
gains
and
retirement,
and
even
investment
income
I
enter
I
was
co-lead
sponsor
on
a
bill
last
year.
D
That
would
have
shifted
our
funding
mechanism
to
this
kind
of
from
property
taxes
to
an
income-based
tax.
That
would
really
ask
all
vermonters
to
pay
their
fair
share
in
this
into
the
system,
and
this
would
have
the
potential
both
to
lower
the
burden
on
our
working
and
lower
and
moderate
income
families,
as
well
as
potentially
bringing
some
extra
funding
into
the
system
by
implementing
a
progressive
income-based
tax.
D
We
bring
the
top
one-third
of
earners
in
and
ask
them
again
to
pay
equitably
into
our
public
education
system,
and
our
public
education
system
benefits
everyone,
whether
you
have
children
in
the
school
system
or
not.
I
intend
to
continue
working
with
The
Advocates
that
I
worked
with
to
craft
our
original
bill
in
the
house,
as
well
as
my
house
counterpart,
who
will
remain
in
the
house
to
reintroduce
a
similar
bill
in
the
coming
biennium
to
shift
our
funding
mechanism
to
an
income-based
system.
D
The
mechanism
would,
for
the
first
year,
exclude
renters
in
order
to
make
sure
that
renters
aren't
paying
tax
twice
they're,
not
paying
the
property
version
of
the
tax,
so
it
would
set
up
a
study
commission
that
would
bring
in
renters
to
make
sure
that
it's
fair
and
Equitable
because,
as
we
know,
renters
are
often
some
of
our
lowest
earning
vermonters.
Although
with
the
housing
market,
that's
not
as
true
anymore.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
Tanya
Phil
as
our
last
panel
member
to
talk
about
education
on
this
particular
Topic
in
question.
The
legislature
can
make
impacts
on
how
education
is
funded.
Statewide.
Do
you
see
the
need
for
changes
to
how
we
fund
education
and
how
would
you
use
your
office
to
move
changes
forward.
E
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
something
that
Martine
said
and
that's
about
the
waiting
formula.
So
we
did
a
lot
of
work
over
the
last,
especially
the
last
two
years
to
change
the
weighting
formula
which
determines
how
much
resources
each
Community
gets
for
certain
categories
of
students,
so
it's
more
expensive
to
educate
a
high
schooler
than
it
is
a
preschooler
English
language
Learners
are
a
wonderful
Boon
to
our
community.
They
need
more
resources.
E
The
schools
need
more
resources
and
we've
known
that
for
years
and
years,
Winooski
and
Burlington
especially,
are
places
where
that
cry
has
been
loud.
It's
been
urgent
and
the
legislature
finally
hurt
us.
All
three
of
us
have
worked
on
that
at
one
point
or
another,
and
that
formula
has
changed.
So
if
you
live
in
Winooski,
if
you
live
in
Burlington,
those
resources
are
going
to
become
increasingly
available,
as
will
money
for
students
living
in
poverty.
Huge
huge
benefits
to
be
had
with
that
said,
I
I
would
Echo
what
infinite
said.
E
I
think
the
educational
system
is
in
need
of
lots
of
different
kinds
of
change,
not
just
financing.
We
have
an
ethnic
studies
committee,
that's
gone
into
title
16
and
is
slowly
working
their
way
through
all
those
laws
trying
to
determine
which,
if
any
among
them
need
changing
to
make
the
system
more
Equitable,
more
fair
across
the
board.
E
Last
thing,
I'll
say:
I
do
support
moving
to
an
income
based
system,
because
I
think
the
property
tax
system
has
wound
up
demonizing
teachers
demonizing
the
educational
system,
because
the
only
budget
people
are
aware
of
is
the
one
that's
broken
out
from
the
general
fund
and
that
is
their
property
tax.
So
it's
an
unfair
and
odd
burden
on
teachers
and
administrators.
Thank.
A
F
We
know
how
complex
our
our
Health
Care
system
is
with
so
many
various
systems
of
delivery,
and
so
many
overhead
and
and
administrative
costs
and
I
can
tell
you
I
know
it
doesn't
always
make
sense
to
compare
the
United
States
with
other
countries,
but
there
is
an
easier
way
to
do.
This.
I
have
lived
it
I've
experienced
it.
We
need
to
look
at
other
models
and
learn
from
them.
It
just
makes
sense
in
the
meantime,
I
do
believe
that
only
about
three
percent
of
of
vermonters
are
uninsured
at
this
time.
F
F
A
Is
up?
Thank
you
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
will
say
this
Healthcare
question
one
more
time
and
then
not
say
it
again:
infinite
on
the
topic
of
healthcare,
please,
the
increasing
cost
of
Health
Care
is
putting
pressures
on
vermonters
and
the
state's
economy
covet
has
sharpened
our
focus
on
inequities
in
health
care.
What
is
next
for
Health
Care
changes
in
Vermont.
Please
be
specific.
D
Kovid
showed
us
clearly.
There
is
a
deep
flaw
in
linking
Health
Care
to
employment,
as
people
lost
their
jobs
and
their
health
care
in
the
midst
of
a
global
pandemic.
This
is
an
equity
issue.
People
stay
in
bad
jobs,
abusive
relationships
in
all
manners
of
horrible
situations,
simply
because
they
need
Health,
Care
Health
Care
should
not
be
for
profit,
and
we
have
to
investigate
every
possible
Avenue
towards
ensuring
that
every
vermonter
has
the
health
care
they
need
when
they
need
it
without
worrying,
if
it
will
bankrupt
them.
D
There
are
multiple
bills
that
have
been
introduced
over
the
years.
That
would
move
us
to.
Finally,
realizing
Healthcare
is
a
public
good.
We've
talked
about
Universal
Primary
Care,
we've
talked
about
expanded,
Dr
dinosaur,
we've
talked
about
Regional
Partnerships,
and
it's
well
past
time
that
we
made
it
a
priority
to
figure
out
which
path
forward
is
most
feasible
and
work
towards
implementing
it,
so
that
we
stop
allowing
vermonters
to
go
bankrupt
or
stay
in
abusive
relationships
simply
because
they
can't
afford
health
care.
E
So
due
to
the
very,
very
narrow
margin
we
have
in
Washington,
we've
just
gotten
the
first
taste
of
that
negotiating,
but
it
won't
take
effect
for
a
couple
of
years,
which
was
again
a
sort
of
sop
to
the
pharmaceutical
companies.
So
that
says
to
me
that
the
system
is
still
profit
driven.
It
is
not
patient
driven
and
it's
not
within
in
that
sense
the
ideals
of
what
we
want:
the
United
States
to
be,
let
alone
Vermont.
E
So,
following
the
the
death
of
the
single-payer
system
under
Peter
shumlin,
many
people
began
to
move
to
Universal
Primary
Care
as
the
goal
cheaper,
but
theoretically
more
doable
with
the
flawed
system
that
we
have
in
place.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
do-
Senator
Chris
Bray,
among
others,
Deb
Richter-
are
working
on
plans
to
bring
Universal
Primary
Care
to
Prime
Time
in
the
next
biennium
and
I
would
be
all
for
that
bill.
E
Moving
swiftly
into
the
kind
of
intense
examination
it's
going
to
need,
and
then
we
have
to
have
a
conversation
about
how
we
pay
for
that.
A
payroll
tax
was
what
killed
single-payer,
because
the
governor
wasn't
willing
to
sign
it.
So,
ultimately,
we'd
need
to
talk
about
how
to
finance
such
a
system,
but
that's
the
way
we
need
to
go
great.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Moving
on
to
the
top
topic
of
ballot
issues,
I
will
read
the
question
once
I
will
start
with
infinite
and
then
I
will
ask
each
one
of
you
to
also
respond.
Thank
you
all
for
being
so
professional
and
present
to
all
these
questions
on
the
topic
of
ballot
issues.
Infinite
two
Constitutional
Amendments
constitutional
proposition,
2
and
proposition
5
will
be
in
front
of
Voters
this
November
to
support
or
oppose.
B
I
support
and
I
actually
think
they're
related
in
that
you
know
this.
This
you
know,
effort
to
control
women's
bodies
and-
and
you
know
in
slavery,
I
mean-
is
very
much
connected
to
capitalism,
and
you
know
this
this
system
that
you
know
we've
all
inherited,
so
you
know
be
great
if
we
can
look
at
these.
You
know
at
these
issues
through
through
that
lens
of
like
how
is
capitalizing
a
capitalism,
undermining
women
being
able
to
have
control
over
their
bodies,
and
you
know,
and
these
old,
like
vestiges
of
slavery,
still
haunting
us.
A
D
I
support
both
of
these.
These
propositions
I
think
it
is
critically
important
that
we
eliminate
any
exception
Clauses
in
the
prohibition
of
slavery
and
indentured
servitude
in
Vermont
and
Across.
The
Nation
I
also
support
the
reproductive
Liberty
Amendment.
This
is
coming
at
a
time
when
Reproductive
Rights
are
under
attack
all
over
this
country
and
I'm
thankful
that
the
leaders
in
Vermont
had
the
foresight
five
years
ago
to
begin
taking
the
steps
to
codify
reproductive
Liberty
into
our
Vermont
Constitution.
However,
this
is
a
first
step,
as
these
attacks
continue
and
intensify.
A
E
Strongly
support
both
in
terms
of
the
reproductive
Liberty
amendment
I,
absolutely
support
it.
I
absolutely
think
we
could.
We
could
pass
it
and
should
pass
it.
I
worry
that
the
Supreme
Court
is
already
looking
Beyond,
these
sorts
of
laws,
that
is
state-based
laws
at
Nationwide
bands
and
Lindsey
Graham.
Just
the
other
day,
unexpectedly
came
out
with
a
15-week
ban
Nationwide
and
he's
making
it
very
explicit
that
if
voters
put
a
republican
majority
in
come
November
that
they
will
take
this
up
and
move
to
pass
it.
E
So
we
can,
you
know
our
Vermont
Constitution
I
think
is
among
the
strongest
in
the
nation.
It's
the
one
that
I've
taken
a
vow
to
uphold,
but
in
a
situation
where
you
have
a
6-3
court,
that
may
not
be
enough,
so
I
I
think
passing
this
Constitutional
Amendment
here
is
absolutely
necessary,
but
everybody
who
thinks
about
this
issue
cares
about.
This
issue
needs
to
get
their
friends
out
in
November,
not
just
in
Vermont,
but
in
all
the
swing
States
or
all
of
it
is
at
risk.
F
I
support
both
of
them
and
I
just
want
to
Echo
all
of
the
sentiments
that
have
been
said
already
well
well
said,
and
well
articulated
and
important
proposition
five,
absolutely
as
a
woman,
the
thought
of
some
other
being
often
old,
white
men
taking
away
my
bodily
autonomy
is
just
frightening.
It's
frightening
for
my
daughter.
Frankly,
it's
frightening
for
my
son
as
well,
so
I
completely
support
proposition
five.
Abortion
is
a
health
care
issue,
Family
Planning
and
access
to
safe
and
affordable
reproduction
reproductive.
F
You
know
medication
and
so
on.
It's
the
key
to
all
of
us,
thriving
in
our
society
proposition
two
100
percent
I
said
it
last
time
and
I'll
say
it
again:
I'm
still
baffled
Why
by
why
in
this
country
we
have
not
apologized
for
slavery.
It
is
part
of
our
history
that
in
form
so
much
of
the
systemic
racism
and
the
institutional
racism
that
we
live
with
today.
So
I'm
100
in
favor
of
both
and
I
hope
that
we
pass
them
in
great
numbers.
A
D
Firstly,
I
want
to
name
that
language
access
is
protected
under
federal
law
and
it
is
our
legal
obligation
to
provide
language
access.
That
said,
I've
worked
in
many
settings
trying
to
navigate
these
systems
with
interpreters
if
it's
available
and
translation
services,
if
they're
available
and
what
we
currently
have
is
wholly
inadequate
and
it's
difficult
to
navigate
at
Best.
In
many
instances,
I
found
it's
wholly
unavailable
in
order
to
strengthen
these
systems
and
provide
Equitable
access
to
all
vermonters
it
to
the
resources
and
services
we
have.
We
have
to
build
out
those
systems.
D
Diverse
communities
are
such
an
incredible
strength
and
create
some
of
the
most
dynamic
and
beautiful
spaces
in
our
state
and
without
language
access.
We
are
driving
away
this
diversity,
we're
driving
people
away
from
the
supports
and
services
that
they
need
and
we're
also
in
opposition
to
federal
law.
So
I
think
there's
a
whole
host
of
reasons
why
we
need
to
invest
in
these
supports
and
Services
I
have
worked
with
people
whose,
for
whom
English
is
a
second
language
and
trying
to
navigate
the
system
of
getting
language
access
is
incredibly
difficult.
E
E
We
do
have
people
here
who
are
not
native
speakers,
English
language
Learners,
when
we
test
them
in
in
the
standardized
testing
system.
We
we
find
ways
to
reach
out
to
them
and
to
provide
services,
because
the
testing
reflects
on
the
system
and
I
feel
like
sometimes
when
it
comes
to
the
Democratic
functions
like
voting.
E
F
Yeah,
so
I
was
a
language
teacher
for
many
years,
so
obviously
it's
something
that
I
understand
and
something
that
I
know
is-
is
crucial
to
being
actively
engaged
and
involved
in
our
democracy
and
understanding
our
systems
and
being
a
fully
realized
member
of
our
community
I.
Think
in
the
Burlington
school
school
district,
we've
done
a
great
job
of
realizing
this.
Our
multilingual
Liaisons
are
absolutely
critical
to
the
success
of
our
students
and
to
the
success
of
our
district
I.
F
Think
other
districts
are
now
becoming
aware
of
how
having
these
trained
professionals
as
part
of
our
school
communities,
it's
just
vital
to
to
our
success,
but
to
Echo
something
that
Phil
said
just
now.
Yesterday,
I
had
coffee
with
two
good
friends
of
mine,
Zhu,
nueci
and
guillaumeu,
who
are
both
from
the
Congo,
and
we
spoke
about
this
very
issue
and
we
spoke
spoke
specifically
around
around
how
it
would
be
great
to
get
more
new
Americans
voting.
F
B
How
language
access
to
education
issues
made
it
possible
for
families
to
advocate
for
getting
transportation
to
school?
For
the
kids,
it
made
it
possible
for
Burlington
families
to
advocate
for
restorative
practices,
for
changing
the
report
card
at
the
school
that
they
went
to
so
that
they
could
better
understand
where
their
kids
were
and
and
what
their
you
know.
What
kind
of
grades
they
were
getting
so
language
access
to
information
is
is
a
win-win
for
everyone.
A
E
Well,
as
I
began
by
saying,
I
really
appreciate
Channel
17's
presence
in
the
community,
especially
come
election
time
election
night
and
I'll
just
make
a
little
plug
here.
Election
night,
Channel
17
has
the
best
results
and
that's
a
tribute
to
what
you
all
do
given
how
little
you're
given
to
do
it
with
so,
yes,
I
think
having
the
cable
companies
provide
a
a
tiny
smidgen
of
the
money
they
take
in,
and
the
resources
that
they
have
to
to
Community
Access
is
key.
I
do
think
we
could
do
be
doing
more.
E
Vermont
Digger
is
probably
the
best
source
of
daily
information
about,
what's
happening
in
state
government
and
they're,
doing
that
on
a
subscription
model
and
people
paying
for
subscriptions
and
philanthropic
gifts,
making
up
the
difference.
It's
a
bigger
discussion
about
using
taxpayer
money
but
I'm
willing
to
have
that
discussion.
Great.
F
Annie.
Yes,
so
if
you,
if
you've
been
following
this
topic
across
the
country,
you,
you
will
know
that,
there's
data
that
suggests
that,
when
local
media
go
away,
for
example,
newspapers,
radio
TV,
what
happens
is
there
is
a
rise
in
corruption
and
graft
embezzlement.
These
are
things
that
we
know
happen.
So
it's
critical
that
we
keep
our
local
news
sources.
F
I
know
that
you
reach
out
to
the
community
for
donations.
I
get
I,
get
the
please
and
I'm
happy
to
support
this
channel,
but
I
do
believe.
We
need
to
do
more.
Media
really
is
critical
in
holding
our
public
officials
accountable.
It
makes
our
governments
transparent,
or
certainly
encourage
them
to
be
transparent,
so
it
is
really
important.
B
B
Do
wonder
if
there's
a
connection
to
be
made
with
our
public
education
system
and
our
community
TV
in
that
Community
TV
has
a
role
to
play
in
the
development
of
our
young
children
and,
and
that
may
be,
you
know
if,
if
it's
possible
for
their
be,
you
know
some
public
dollars
through
a
a
pub.
You
know
public
education
fund
that
supports
the
community
TV
in
a
way
that
is
mutually
beneficial
for
our
public
school
system.
D
So
in
this
time
of
deep
divisiveness
and
lack
of
trust
in
government
and
media
I
think
it's
critically
important
that
we
have
publicly
available
non-corporate
owned
media
sources
like
this
one
I
am
deeply
committed
to
expanding
Civics
access
with
forums
like
this
one
and
really
making
sure
that
it's
accessible
to
all
vermonters
and
I
really
feel
like.
This
is
an
important
tool
in
actually
saving
our
democracy
forums
where
people
can
sort
that
are
Community,
owned
and
Community
run
are
are
incredibly
important
for
engaging
people
and
I.
D
Think
the
best
way
to
have
a
strong
Revenue
stream,
as
has
been
pointed
out,
is
through
diverse
funding
streams.
But
Government
funding
has
to
be
one
of
the
parts
of
that.
It's
clear
with
the
changing
landscape
of
how
people
are
accessing
and
seeking
media
with
likely
a
decline
in
cable
subscriptions
that
we
need
to
consider
other
possibilities
for
raising
the
revenue
that
are
in
line
with
the
21st
Century
Media
consumption,
without
selling
the
price
selling
out
to
the
priorities
of
locally
owned
media
access.
A
A
F
Even
if
it's
you
know
relatively
small
and
it's
something
that
we
go
back
and
forth
on,
but
certainly
having
some
kind
of
a
stipend
would
allow
us
to
welcome
more
folks
in
onto
the
board,
who
might
not
otherwise
be
able
to
serve
so
I
would
imagine
it's
the
same
with
the
legislature.
It
is
hard
work.
It
is
time
consuming
I,
don't
understand
how
our
legislators
can
work,
a
full-time
job.
Do
the
work
of
legislating
and
pay
the
bills
it's
expensive
to
live
in
Vermont.
A
B
I,
don't
think
so,
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
say
what
this
citizen
legislature
model
we're
going
to
have
to
do
a
better
job
at
increasing
participation
from
from
everyday
everyday
people
and
making
government
more
accessible
and
I.
Don't
understand
how
our
governor
would
veto
a
bill
that
would
lower
the
voting
age
for
young
people
so
that
they
could
can
participate
full
more
fully
in
our
democracy
right
because
we
we
that's
what
we
need
right.
B
You
know
on
one
side,
we're
saying
you
know
we
want
to
keep
young
people
in
the
state,
but
on
the
other
side
we're
saying
well,
you
know
you're
not
old
enough
to
fully
participate
in
our
democracy,
so
there
there
are
lots
of
different
ways
that
I
think
we
can
bolster
how
our
democracy
and
and
how
you
know,
people
are
participating.
Great.
D
Absolutely
thank
you.
Firstly,
the
idea
that
we
have
a
part-time
legislature
is
not
really
accurate,
while
we're
only
paid
through
the
legislative
session.
Most
legislators,
myself,
included
in
fact
work
all
year
to
support
constituents,
research
policy
host
community
events
and
ensure
that
we're
moving
forward
with
bills
that
we're
interested
in
we're
just
not
paid
for
that
work.
D
The
issue
is
facing
us
simply
don't
go
away
because
the
legislature
has
adjourned
as
the
system,
as
it's
currently
structured
I've,
seen
over
and
over
again
that
we
can't
solve
all
of
the
complex
issues
facing
us.
I,
don't
believe
that
we're
going
to
have
the
political
will
or
even
capacity
to
make
this
change
before
the
next
cycle
of
redistricting,
but
I
think
we
have
to
start
talking
about
it
and
really
begin
the
conversation
about
building
a
responsive,
21st
century
General
Assembly.
D
That
will
provide
more
robust
ability
to
look
at
the
issues
that
are
facing
us
and
also
make
it
a
more
diverse,
diverse
and
accessible
body.
The
current
structure
not
only
forces
us
to
scramble
towards
a
clock
and
make
choices
about
which
issues
we
can
take
up
and
which
ones
we
can't.
Meanwhile,
all
of
the
issues
are
at
a
crisis
point,
but
it
also
stands
up
insurmountable
barriers
to
serving
for
most
vermonters,
resulting
in
a
body
that
is
not
truly
representative
of
the
state.
E
E
I
I
think
I
might
differ
a
little
bit
with
with
some
of
the
views
just
expressed.
I
I
support
the
citizen
legislature
idea
it
was
originally.
The
idea
was
to
allow
Farmers
to
go
back
and
harvest
their
crops,
in
addition
to
being
in
Montpelier
and
I.
Think
that's
not
a
bad
idea
to
have
an
awareness
of
the
worlds
outside
the
legislature.
Phil
Scott
has
many
times
proposed.
The
idea
that
the
legislature
would
meet
from
January
to
the
end
of
March,
which
I
think
is,
is
just
a
crazy
idea.
E
I
can't
see
how
we
could
possibly
do
that.
Sometimes
it
seems
crazy
that
we
would
get
all
the
work
done
between
January
and
the
end
of
March
or
I'm.
Sorry,
the
end
of
May,
but
but
we
do
and
we
balance
the
budget
every
year,
so
it
does
depend,
as
Tanya
said,
on
lots
of
volunteer
hours
from
legislators.
E
In
fact,
when
we
go
home
and
we
adjourn
Cena
da,
which
is
kind
of
permanently
for
the
biennium,
there
is
an
emergency
board
of
senators
and
representatives
who
are
still
sitting
and
making
decisions
along
with
the
administration
and
they're
not
really
getting
paid.
For
that
they
get
they
get
a
bit,
but
not
a
lot
yet
for
all
the
flaws
in
that
system.
I
think
there
are
big
advantages
in
terms
of
not
having
a
professionalized,
House
and
Senate,
not
having
people
have
their
entire
career
and
World
be
Montpelier.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much
due
to
my
due
to
my
rephrasing
the
question
every
single
time,
we're
short
on
time,
and
we
have
a
lightning
round
right
now,
so
I'm
going
to
grab
the
ones
I
can
do
the
fastest
and
you're
going
to
just
answer
and
Ready
set
go
opiates
and
addiction.
Do
you
support
safe
injection
sites
in
Vermont,
Chittenden,
County,
Infinite.
A
D
E
I
just
heard
a
great
National,
Public
Radio
story
about
Canada,
doing
this
and
they're
doing
a
more
systemic
approach
in
the
U.S
we're
kind
of
at
the
pilot
stage,
so
in
New,
York
City,
for
instance,
they're
piloting
these
sites
and
that's
what
I
would
support
is
a
pilot
here
where
we
watch
it
carefully,
make
sure
it's
working
and
that
there
are
no
unintended
consequences.
Great.
A
A
F
F
B
It
honestly
speaking,
it's
unclear
to
me
how
a
previous
gun
control
legislation
has
had
impact
on
decreasing
violence
in
our
community.
So
so
my
question
is:
how
has
the
previous
legislation
was?
How
are
we
monitoring
it,
and,
and
how
is
it
doing
you
know
before
we
like
just
keep
going
with?
You
know,
gun
legislation,
great.
E
A
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you
very
much.
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