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From YouTube: US Congress Forum Part1 - September 22, 2022
Description
Moderator: Helen Morgan Parmett
Candidates: Becca Balint (D), Adam Ortiz (I) and Luke Talbot (I)
00:00:00 Constitutional Rights
00:03:59 Health Care
00:08:21 Right to Bear Arms
00:19:14 Foreign Policy
00:23:34 Future of Democracy
00:30:08 Closing Statements
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B
C
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
overturning
of
Roe
v
Wade
and
what
that
signals
for
for
what's
coming
next,
so
right
now
we
have
a
situation
where
Justice
Clarence
Thomas.
His
wife
is
now
being
called
before
the
January
6
committee.
To
talk
about
her
role
in
trying
to
overturn
a
free
and
fair
election.
C
She
is
married
to
a
Supreme
Court
Justice,
who
has
an
appointment
for
life,
so
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
fact
that
we
need
an
Ethics
guideline
for
both
justices
and
judges
who
serve
at
the
federal
level
and
I
think
we
should
look
at
term
limits.
I'm
also
very
concerned
that
Justice
Thomas
in
his
memo
regarding
the
Dobbs
decision
he
he
signaled,
where
he
wanted
to
go
next,
which
was
on
lgbtq
rights
and
really
looking
at
dismantling
protections
we've
had
for
same-sex
marriage.
C
The
other
thing
I
think
that
overlays
all
of
this,
for
me,
is
that
we
have
members
of
the
Republican
party
in
Washington
right
now.
That
clearly
do
not
believe
in
free
and
fair
elections,
and
we
need
to
dedicate
so
much
of
our
efforts
in
the
upcoming
session
to
making
sure
we're
guaranteeing
that
every
American
not
only
has
access
to
the
ballot,
but
that
vote
will
be
counted.
A
All
right
thanks
so
I'm
hearing
that
on
Zoom
we've
got
Erica
and
Liam
are
going
to
be
joining
us
in
just
a
moment
I'm
going
to
let
these
folks
finish
up
with
this
question
and
then
I'll
turn
to
you
folks
on
zoom
and
give
you
a
chance
to
introduce
yourselves
as
well
as
respond
to
this
question.
So
let's
go
to
next
Adam
on
this
question
of
constitutional
rights,.
B
The
first
amendment
is
very
important
because
somebody
doesn't
have
the
same
opinion
or
Outlook
doesn't
mean
that
you
should
shut
them
down
I
believe
we
should
secure
free
debate
period.
There
is
no
I,
don't
agree
with
this
person,
so
they
don't
get
to
talk.
That's
wrong
as
far
as
Roe
v
Wade,
rich
and
powerful
men
are
not
going
to
want
their
girlfriends
having
babies,
ruining
their
marriage.
D
D
Another
Court
can
come
behind
them
and
make
another
decision
based
on
the
fact
and
I
believe
even
Justice
Ginsburg
felt
that
Roe
v
wave
was
not
a
Sound
Decision,
and
if
we
want
to
look
backwards
and
say
that
we
have
to
accept
a
Supreme
Court
decision
as
as
settled
law
as
they
want
to
call
it
forever,
then
we
would
have
to
look
back
at
such
other
decisions
as
koromatsu
versus
the
U.S
when
the
Supreme
Court
at
that
time
decided
that
internment
of
Japanese
Americans
was
legal.
There
was
also
another
decision
regarding
sodomy
laws.
D
The
Supreme
Court
upheld
those
laws,
but
we
changed
them
because
it
weren't
the
right
decision
and
in
this
case
I,
would
agree
that
returning
the
decision
above
abortion
back
to
the
States
was
the
correct
place.
The
justices
decided
that
this
wasn't
a
federal
thing.
It
wasn't
constitutional
to
be
decided
on
the
federal
level
and
it
should
go
back
to
the
States.
The
way
the
Constitution
was
designed.
A
All
right
so
we're
going
to
move
then
from
constitutional
rights
to
health
care,
which
I
know,
is
an
issue
that
lots
of
you
at
home
are
concerned
about,
and
so
health
care
costs
are
nearly
20
percent
of
the
U.S
gross
domestic
product
and
there
seems
to
be
no
end
to
these
cost
increases.
So
what
does
Congress
need
to
do
to
curb
these
costs
and
assure
us
that
we
have
all
Quality,
Health,
Care
and
I
think
that
I'm
right
that
it
starts
with
Luke
this
time?
Yep,
let's
get
started
with
you.
D
Well,
this
is
another
one
of
those
situations
that
we
all
agree.
There
is
a
lot
of
extensive
costs
in
the
health
care
industry,
but
we
need
to
look
at
the
reasons
why
it's
costing
so
much,
not
just
sit
down
and
say
congress
is
going
to
make
a
decision
on
how
to
fix
it.
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
in
the
healthcare
industry
when
we
have
to
take
care
of
illegals,
we
have
fraud,
we
have
inefficiencies
in
in
all
the
hospitals
and
all
the
doctors.
D
We
have
heavy
malpractice
costs
and
then
we
have
heavy
costs
when
it
comes
to
producing
drugs.
There's
there's
all
the
costs
of
production,
research
and
development,
and
also
the
cost
that
that
manufacturers
have
to
go
through
the
FDA
process
and
then
maybe
afterwards,
after
they
invested
all
the
money
find
out,
it
doesn't
meet,
muster
and
it's
going
to
be
scrapped.
All
these
costs
get
rolled
into
what
we
all
have
to
pay.
We
also
have
to
look
at
that.
D
We
have
50
states
in
this
country
that
all
can
look
at
unit
unique
ways
to
maybe
solve
these
problems
instead
of
putting
it
all
onto
Congress
and
and
letting
everything
be
decided
in
Washington.
If
the
states
work
at
innovative
ways
to
find
solutions
to
these
problems,
we
may
find
that
one
state
solution
can
work
for
other
states.
B
Preventive
measures,
education,
I,
had
underlying
conditions
and
What
affected.
Other
people
as
a
bad
cold
affected
me
a
little
bit
more.
Also,
businesses
don't
do
what's
right
or
wrong.
They
do
what's
in
their
best
interest.
So
if
it
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
business
they're
going
to
make
the
prices
lower
whatever
that
may
be,
it
has
to
happen.
C
So
we
end
up
paying
more
for
the
exact
same
drugs
that
people
in
other
countries
pay.
Now
we
we
recently
took
a
really
important
step
forward
with
the
inflation
reduction
act
and
making
sure
that,
finally,
we
can
negotiate
those
costs,
and
that
is
a
big
big
step
forward.
We
need
to
add
more
medicines
to
that
list
of
sorry.
There's
a
lot
of
distraction.
C
Call
we
need
to
move
towards
Medicare
for
all,
but
until
then
we
need
to
continue
to
work
on
offering
more
generics
to
the
American
people
and
making
sure
that
we
can
buy
Pharmaceuticals
across
the
border
as
long
as
they
have
been
deemed
safe
by
by
our
government.
There
are
things
that
we
can
do
to
lower
the
cost.
Now,
all
right.
A
E
A
D
Yeah
well,
I
can
say
right
now
that
I
I
would
be
definitely
opposed
to
Medicare
for
all.
My
mother,
you
know,
is
at
the
point
where
she's
had
to
go
into
assisted
living
and
in
order
for
her
to
actually
get
on
one
of
these
government
programs
that
she's
paid
for
her
entire
life,
she
has
to
be
destitute
and,
as
a
veteran
I've
been
through
the
VA
system,
these
systems
are
not
good
and
most
any,
even
like
you
look
at
the
Canadian
Health
Care
system.
D
So
many
people
in
Canada
come
here
because
they
can't
get
the
health
care
they
want.
There.
Government
systems
are
not
the
answer.
The
government
doesn't
really
do
anything
efficiently,
even
if
it's
the
military,
if
you
want
to
step
back
to
the
other
question
regarding
the
Second
Amendment
I'm,
an
absolute
Second,
Amendment
proponent,
I,
think
that
you
could
take
the
words
of
Barack,
Obama
and
I.
Don't
think
he
even
meant
it
this
way.
But
he
said
that
this,
the
Bill
of
Rights
was
a
charter
of
negative
Liberties.
D
It
said
what
the
federal
government
could
not
do
to
you,
and
that
means
they
cannot
infringe
on
your
second
amendment
rights
and
that's
something
that
we
have
to
ensure
that
we
keep
strong
the
the
arguments
about
hunting
and
all
the
other
other
things
are
are
just
like
a
red
herring.
The
the
founders
put
the
Second
Amendment
there
for
a
reason
to
give
protection
for
the
people
against
tyrannical
government,
and
you
know
at
times
I
don't
know
that
ours
is
not
that
far
from
there.
A
B
B
The
cops
ain't
going
to
get
there
in
time
and
criminals
aren't
looking
for
a
fight
they're
looking
for
a
victim,
so
if
they
see
that
you're
not
going
to
be
a
voluntary
victim,
they'll
move
to
the
next
person
who
is
going
to
be
a
victim
so
shall
not
be
infringed,
but
at
the
same
time
it
is
a
perishable
skill
and
you
got
to
go
to
the
range
because
you
don't
shoot
six
months
ago,
oh
yeah
yeah.
No,
no!
You
did
good
six
months
ago.
A
C
A
strong
supporter
of
the
Second,
Amendment
and
I
also
know
that
there
is
room
and
the
ability
to
pass
measures
for
gun
safety.
We've
done
that
in
Vermont.
We've
recently
done
it
at
the
federal
level.
I
do
support
Universal
background
checks
and
closing
the
Charleston
loophole,
making
sure
that
we
are
passing
red
flag
laws
at
the
federal
level,
because,
ultimately,
what
I'm
hearing
from
vermonters
is
I
talk
to
people
across
the
state
is
most
people
in
Vermont
are
strong,
Second
Amendment
supporters,
and
they
also
feel
like.
C
We
are
at
a
time
right
now,
where
no
parent
should
be
worried
about
dropping
their
kid
off
at
school,
because
somebody
is
going
to
come
in
with
an
assault,
weapon
and
and
Slaughter
a
classroom
full
of
children.
People
don't
want
to
be
afraid
to
go
to
the
movie
theaters.
We
don't
have
to
live
like
this,
and
we
can
past
measures
to
keep
Americans
safe
and
I
will
continue
this
work
just
the
way
that
I
have
done
here
in
Vermont
I
will
continue
that
work
at
the
federal
government.
C
The
other
thing
that
I
think
is
also
a
really
important
part
of
this
is
that
Vermont
is
an
outlier
in
terms
of
the
number
of
people
who
take
their
own
lives
with
Firearms.
We
have
higher
rates
here
in
Vermont
than
most
other
states,
and
I
would
like
to
see
more
effort
and
money
put
into
reducing
firearms
deaths
when
it
comes
to
Suicide.
There
are
a
lot
of
families
who
are
hurting
because
of
this,
and
there's
not
enough
attention
on
it.
B
I
would
ask
that
you
not
ask
your
friend
who
is
not
ideal
to
help
you.
They
don't
have.
The
their
heart
may
be
in
the
right
place,
but
their
skill
set
is
not
if
you're
really
at
the
edge
of
your
rope.
Please
reach
out
to
somebody
who
does
it
as
a
job.
Yeah
yeah,
your
friends
may
have
an
emotional
attachment
for
you,
but
their
skill
set
is
not
there.
That's.
A
A
A
D
I've
done
the
one
thing
we
all
have
to
do:
I
meet
the
requirements
of
the
Constitution
to
run
for
this
office
and
I've
also
taken
it
that
it's
very
important
to
me
to
try
to
serve
the
country
because
I
think
we're
going
the
wrong
direction
and
if,
if
I
just
sit
around
at
home
and
complain
all
the
time,
then
it's
not
going
to
get
us
anywhere.
So
I've
put
it
upon
myself
spending
my
own
money,
my
own
time
to
make
this
happen.
D
Like
I,
said
I'm,
not
a
politician,
and
my
goal
is
to
do
what's
best
for
the
state
and
the
country,
but
follow
the
Constitution
as
well.
In
my
background,
I've
worked
for
in
the
military.
I've
worked
in
the
power
generation
industry
for
30
years.
I've
worked
with
diverse
groups
of
people
to
solve
tough
problems
and
I.
Think
that's
what
it
takes.
You
got
to
be
willing
to
go,
sit
down
and
talk
with
people
and
see
what's
going
on,
but
right
now
in
Washington.
D
C
Sorry
I
I
first
want
to
say:
is
it
Mike?
Is
that
right,
Luke,
I'm,
sorry,
yeah?
One
of
the
things
that
Luke
said
is
so
important.
He
said
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
dysfunction
in
Washington
and
people
are
grandstanding
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
getting
work
done,
and
that's
something
that
I'm
very
concerned
about
too
that
we
don't
want
to
send
anyone
there.
Who
is
interested
in
chasing
the
cameras,
and
you
know
having
a
huge
Twitter
following
that's
not
this.
What
this
is
about.
This
is
about
serving
vermonters.
C
A
C
B
Happy
to
be
your
service
priority,
one
is
clean,
drink
and
water,
no
water,
no
life
to
improve
your
quality
of
life.
Improved
Communications
upgrade
the
cell
phone
towers,
but
it
has
to
be
in
a
way
that
it
doesn't
take
away
from
Vermont's.
Vermont
makes
tourism
money
from
it
being
beautiful,
so
the
design
of
the
cell
phone
towers
has
to
be
behind
the
trees.
B
The
Vermont
climate
is
cold,
which
is
good
for
the
computer
servers,
so
we
can
bring
in
computer
jobs
and
advertise
the
cold
weather
that
they
don't
have
to
spend
money
cooling
down
their
servers,
that'll
bring
money
in.
But
if
there's
pollution
in
the
places
that
the
tourists
go
and
they
don't
feel
safe
to
drink
the
water,
that's
affecting
your
money,
basically
listen
to
what
your
particular
needs
are,
and
if
it's
in
my
abilities
to
do
it,
do
it,
but
without
clean
drinking
water
it
ain't
happening.
B
A
Not
to
leave
the
house
right
so,
let's
turn
our
attention
to
a
wider
question.
I
know
one
that's
on
the
mind
of
a
lot
of
vermonters
and
indeed
a
lot
of
U.S
citizens
and
people
around
the
world
is
what
do
we
do
about
Russia
and
do
you
think
in
particular?
Do
you
think
that
there's
a
limit
to
U.S
involvement
in
the
Russia's
war
with
Ukraine,
and
if
so,
if
there
is
a
limit?
What
is
that
limit?
How
about
we
get
started
with
you,
Adam
I.
B
Served
the
Baghdad
Iraq
Kabula
Afghanistan,
we
shouldn't
be
over
there
at
all.
There's
people
all
over
the
world
that
need
help.
We
don't
help
them,
because
it's
not
in
our
interest,
it's
not
about
right
or
wrong.
It
is
what
is
the
best
interest
of
people?
You
don't
even
know
their
names
or
faces
to
involve
ourselves
in
problems
they're,
not
the
ones
coming
out
behind
their
desk
and
fighting
the
fight.
If
anybody
feels
differently
I
plan
to
have
a
roster
put
together
and
you
go
fight,
don't
send
somebody
else's
kid
to
go
fight.
C
C
So
right
now
in
Russia
we
see
that
the
Vladimir
Putin
has
called
up
300
000
conscripts
essentially,
and
what
I
read
this
morning
is,
you
know
those
young
men
are
are
running
for
the
Border.
They
don't
want
to
serve
in
in
the
Ukrainian
war,
and
so
we
have
I
think
a
responsibility
to
stand
with
our
allies
and
Ukraine
is
an
ally
of
ours,
and
we
have
sent
significant
Aid
that
has
allowed
us
to
beat
back
the
invasion
in
eastern
Crane
and
that
that
is
a
positive
thing,
not
just
for
the
ukrainians.
C
C
We
should
be
working
with
NATO,
we
should
be
doing
diplomacy
first
and,
as
you
know,
as
as
we
look
to
how
the
geopolitics
are
changing
here
in
the
last
few
weeks,
we
see
that
China
and
India
are
starting
to
move
away
from
Russia.
That's
a
significant
change
in
the
last
few
weeks,
and
some
of
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
diplomatically
I
think
will
will
stem
from
the
fact
that
some
of
Putin's
allies
are
now
trying
to
distance
themselves
from
him
all.
A
D
D
I,
don't
see
that
necessarily
giving
money
is
distancing
us
that
far
from
it,
because
it
Russia
has
already
said
that
you
know,
if
you
threaten
him,
he
may
threaten
you.
The
winds
will
come
your
way,
that's
exactly
what
he
said,
and
so,
if
we
entangle
ourselves
in
it,
even
in
a
monetary
situation,
we
rest
that
there's
a
lot
of
European
countries
that
that's
more
on
their
border.
They
should
be
taking
care
of
it.
They
should
be
putting
up
a
lot
more
of
the
effort
into
help
them
get
a
resolution.
D
B
The
reality
is,
if
things
escalate,
the
people
who
started
the
fight
and
got
people
like
me
in
the
fight
aren't
going
to
be
fighting
the
fight
they're
going
to
send
other
people
to
go
fight.
Nobody
in
their
Circle
total
strangers
are
going
to
be
fighting
a
fight
that
they
started
with.
Another
total
stranger.
A
All
right,
so
it
looks
like
we
lost
that
color,
but
feel
free
to
call
back
in
again
our
number
is
802-862-3966.
We
definitely
want
to
hear
from
you
and
take
your
questions,
but
while
we're
waiting
for
your
call
back
in,
let's
talk
about
the
future
of
democracy,
shall
we
so
can
you
share?
Do
you
share
the
concerns
that
many
have
voiced
that
our
democracy
is
in
Jeopardy
and
if
so,
what
measures
do
you
recommend
that
we
take
here
in
Vermont
Luke?
How
about
we
get
started
with
you.
D
Well,
I
would
be
more
concerned
that
we're
losing
our
Republic.
Let's
you
know,
have
the
distinction
between
the
two
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
in
Washington
CC,
where
we
have
politicians
that
want
to
take
Federal
control
of
Elections,
which
is
outside
of
the
requirements
of
the
Constitution.
D
We
we
have
got
to
look
out
for
an
ever
increasing
government
that
wants
to
take
control
of
everything,
and
that's
that's
what
you
have
to
worry
about,
because
once
you
lose
your
Republic
and
you
get
yourself
into
a
centralized
government
or
a
lot
of
people
want
to
push
socialism
you'll,
never
get
your
your
Republic
back.
Okay,.
C
The
vast
majority
of
Americans
support,
hr1
and
what's
embedded
in
there,
which
is
making
sure
that
everybody
has
access
to
the
ballot
ballot,
and
that
is
regardless
of
party.
You
have
Republicans
Democrats
and
independents
who
all
believe
you
should
know
that
when
you
cast
a
ballot,
it's
going
to
be
counted
so
I'm
very
concerned
about.
A
B
B
Big
things
are
just
a
whole
bunch
of
small
things
put
together
so
before
it
gets
to
a
point
where
it's
out
of
control,
more
involvement
and
part
of
that
is
for
people
to
feel
like
they're,
not
disenfranchised
your
voice
does
matter,
we
are
listening.
Look.
This
is
what
it
was.
This
is
what
it
is.
You
said
we
did
it.
What
else
do
you
want.
D
D
On
that
is
no
I
wouldn't
be
here
if
I
didn't
care
about
free
and
fair
elections,
but
elections
have
to
be
honest
and
when
you've
got
mail-in
ballots
like
we
did
during
the
covet
thing.
That's
ridiculous.
At
my
own
house
there's
only
two
of
us:
we
got
six
ballots
now.
People
choose
to
be
dishonest
and
just
put
these
in
there's
no
signature
on
there's,
no,
nothing.
You
know
you
should
vote.
You
should
be
willing.
It
should
be
something
that
you
want
to
do.
You
should
not
have
a
problem
to
go.
B
A
B
A
C
Oh
actually,
I
don't
want
to
rebut
anything.
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear
that
the
Secretary
of
State
here
in
Vermont
their
office
has
done
an
incredible
job
during
covid
to
make
sure
that
everybody
had
access
to
the
ballot,
and
there
was
no
voter
fraud
here
in
Vermont
during
the
mail-in
ballots
and
so
there's.
There
are
very,
very
careful
protocols
that
need
to
happen
with
every
town
clerk
elections
in
Vermont
are
run
by
local
Town
clerks
that
know
people
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear.
C
Even
if
you've
got
multiple
ballots
at
your
home,
that
doesn't
mean
those
votes
were
all
cast
and
there
are
complete
and
total
Safety
Systems
in
place
and
I
could
not
speak
highly.
You
know
more
highly
of
the
work
that
the
Secretary
of
State's
office
has
done
here
in
Vaughn,
including
doing
work
when
they
were
receiving
threats
to
their
safety.
B
It's
not
rebutting
but
to
be
above
reproach
chain
of
custody.
Well,
you
have
a
couple
of
guys
there
with
the
little
camera
and
you
have
a
chain
of
custody
that
there's
no
delusion
that
it
was
a
possibility
of
it
being
anything
other
where
they
had
the
confidence
in
the
system.
So
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
with
the
disillusioned
if
there
is
a
possibility,
but
there
is
no
possibility,
because
you
have
somebody
babysitting
all.
A
C
Just
briefly,
I
have
had
a
long
career
of
Public
Service
here
in
Vermont,
first,
as
a
teacher
and
also
serving
on
local
boards
in
my
community
in
Windham,
County
and
I
have
always
done
my
work
with
an
eye
to
alleviating
suffering.
That
is
why
I
became
a
teacher.
That's
why
I
became
a
legislature
legislator
and
if
you
elect
me,
I
will
do
what
I've
done
in
the
Vermont
state
senate,
which
is
work
with
all
people,
regardless
of
party,
to
make
sure
we're
taking
care
of
vermonters.
That's
the
most
important
thing.
Thank
you
for
tuning
in.
B
So
I
totally
understand
that
not
everybody
has
the
same
exact
concerns
not
to
beat
a
dead
horse.
But
if
you
don't
have
clean
drinking
water,
you
ain't
got
no
concerns,
so
morale
is
important.
Part
of
morale
is
the
different
festivals
that
we
have.
Art
is
important.
It's
different
ways
of
people
expressing
themselves.
The
military
is
important.
I
never
had
a
problem
with
the
VA
I
love
you
guys,
but
when
people
talk
in
front
of
you
like
you're,
not
even
there,
that's
when
the
truth
comes
out
so
dot
every
eye
cross.
A
A
Www.Ch17.Tv
and
don't
forget
to
vote
okay,
so
on
or
before
November
8th
and
this
year,
ballots
will
be
mailed
to
all
registered
voters
in
this
state
and
if
you
want
to
confirm
that
you're
registered
to
vote
and
we'll
be
receiving
your
ballot
at
home,
just
visit
the
Secretary
of
State's
online
portal
at
mvp.vermont.gov
all
right.
So
thank
you
for
watching
and
for
sharing
town
meeting
TV
if
you're
not
already.