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From YouTube: Burlington Board of Finance - 7/17/2023
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Agenda: https://burlingtonvt.portal.civicclerk.com/event/2113/files
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1. Agenda
2. Winooski River Sewer Main Break Expenses
3. Public Forum
4. Consent Agenda
5. Creation of 2 Water Distribution Field Technicians
6. Reclassification of the Water Distribution Foreman
7. Bonds For School District Capital Improvements
8. Capital Public Improvement Infrastructure Bonds
9. School District Capital Improvement Bonds For BHS
10. Refunding Public Improvement Bonds
11. Public Improvement Bonds For Fiscal Year 2024
12. Re-classification/retitling of 1 position
13. Execute a Contract with Alert Enterprises
14. Grant Funds - Elmwood Emergency Shelter Community
15. Planning Grant Continuum of Care VT-501
16. Creation of Executive Manager for the Police Department
17. City Hall Elevator Modernization
18. City Hall Exterior Restoration
19. Replacement Remote Sump Tank for City Hall
20. Exterior Temporary Fencing for Memorial Auditorium
21. Adjourn
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B
E
F
There
is
no
action
that
we're
requesting
this
evening:
division
director,
Megan
Moyers
on
the
phone
and
we'll
be
jumping
in
momentarily,
but
given
the
importance
of
this
sewer
main
break
and
the
speed
at
which
we
are
moving
and
the
fact
that
there
isn't
another
Board
of
Finance
meetings
for
another
month,
we
felt
it
was
important
to
get
in
front
of
you
and
explain
our
strategies
and
the
likely
asks
that
you
will
be
seeing
in
front
of
you
in
August
for
a
lot
of
work.
That
will
already
have
been
done.
F
We
are
very
quickly
advancing
the
reduce
and
re-routing
portion
of
our
strategies
here.
Reducing
we've
asked
for
a
conservation
reflects
of
of
the
eastern
part
of
the
new
North
End
for
households
and
businesses
in
that
sewer
shed,
but
we
are
also
Contracting
with
a
company
with
pumper
trucks
to
work
24
7,
to
remove
as
many
flows
from
that
sewer
shed
as
possible.
That
contract
will
be
executed
this
week.
F
The
14-day
cost
for
that
work
is
going
to
be
around
two
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars,
and
so
we
wanted
you
to
know
of
that
expense
simultaneously
and
Megan.
Thank
you
for
putting
up
the
picture
here.
As
you'll
note,
the
main
line
we're
talking
about
is
there
in
purple
that
Megan
is
highlighted
with
our
pointer.
F
So,
in
addition
to
the
pumping
the
the
pumper
trucks,
which
will
cost
around
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
14
days,
we
are
then
moving
very
quickly
as
a
matter
of
fact,
construction
started
today
on
a
bypass
piping
system
and
Megan
is
showing
the
root
of
that
showing
from
the
last
manhole
before
it
Dives
under
the
river
running,
largely
through
the
city's
right-of-way
and
along
the
right-of-way
to
North
plant,
it's
around
5
000
feet
of
HDPE
piping
and
that
construction
started.
Today
we
are
working
with
our
on-call
contractor
ECI.
F
F
and
together
those
two
projects
will
cost
approximately
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We've
been
working
carefully
with
CA
oshad
with
our
FEMA
in-house
experts
and
also
with
a
consultant
at
a
house
to
make
sure
we're
collecting
the
right
information
and
getting
the
right
documentation
in
order
to
best
our
chances
to
get
reimbursed.
F
There
are
two
very
fortuitous
things.
One
is
the
council
just
approved
two
months
ago.
A
hazard
mitigation
plan
for
the
city
that
helps
the
reimbursement
rate
through
FEMA
or
any
damages
in
the
City
of
Burlington.
So
that's
positive,
and
the
second
thing
was
that
we
inspected
the
the
sewer
main
underneath
the
river
with
divers
just
last
month
and
found
no
major
findings.
So
the
city
has
been
testing
that
line
through
digesting
twice
a
year,
plus
periodic
diving.
So
we've
done
our
duty
to
manage
and
Steward
this
resource.
F
So
it
is
not
because
of
lack
of
work
that
we
have
found
ourselves
in
this
situation,
given
the
700k
we're
expecting
to
expend
and
the
potential
that
if
we
can
get
divers
into
the
river
such
that,
we
find
that
there
is
a
cheap
interim
repair
on
the
pipe
itself
with
welding
or
sleeve
or
some
other
solution.
We
could
be
coming
to
you
in
August,
with
a
million
dollars
of
after
the
fact
request.
F
G
G
G
Adding
technical
staff
just
in
true
true
reality,
like
I,
don't
think
we
would
even
be
anywhere
near
where
we
are
in
this
moment
today,
less
than
a
week
out
actively
managing
the
best
of
our
abilities,
the
leak
and
already
in
motion
on
a
very
good
Solution.
That's
going
to
handle
the
majority
of
the
flows
under
most
circumstances,
with
the
bypass
pumping,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you
on
our
behalf.
Back
of
our
staff
for
supporting
us
building
the
team.
F
H
E
F
C
G
G
We
know
that
we
can
get
at
least
175,
000
gallons
I
over
the
weekend,
at
least
over
one
24-hour
period,
because
it
depends
on
the
amount
of
traffic
that's
slowing
down
in
the
truckers
we
were
able
to
get
up
to
230,
000
gallons,
so
we're
grabbing
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
At
this
point,
we
still
estimate
that
it's
about
350
to
400
000
during
dry
weather
conditions
that
is
going
into
the
river.
G
We
know
where
the
remaining
catch
basins
are,
that
tie
into
the
system
and
we're
actively
working
to
plug
those
so
that
the
water
will
Pond
slightly
and
run
run
down
like
run
down
the
street,
particularly
in
areas
where
we
have
a
separate
storm
sewer
system
to
kind
of
try
to
divert
flows
away
from
away
from
this
line.
But
during
storm
events,
that's
the
one
piece
where
the
by
emergency
bypass
pumping
solution
may
not
be
able
to
get
it
all.
G
We
were
limited
in
the
elevation
and
and
size
of
line,
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
we're
going
to
be
pumping
as
much
as
we
possibly
can,
but
there's
a
couple.
Things
remain
to
be
seen
once
we
get
this
thing
in
place
and
it's
working
in
real
time,
but
one
once
we
have
the
pumping
situation
in
place
during
dry
weather
conditions.
We
anticipate
that
we
will
be
fully
diverting
all
of
the
sewage
away
from
this
area.
So
if
that
answers
your
question.
G
Getting
it
all
right
now,
we're
not
getting
it
all
with
the
pumper
truck
we're
doing
sort
of
the
best
that
we
can
and
we're.
You
know
also
trying
to
kind
of
right-size
things
and
that's
why
we
move
so
fast.
Obviously,
the
Windows
key
is
still
flowing.
High,
there's
still
a
ton
of
things
in
the
Winooski.
G
After
or
soon
after
we
have
the
emergency
bypass,
pumping
in
place
and
charge
the
line
and
turn
on
the
pumps
we're
hoping
that
the
divers
we've
already
contacted
them,
they're
ready
to
go
as
soon
as
we
say,
go
and
as
soon
as
the
water
levels
have
dropped
and
the
water
Clarity
has
returned
getting
them
in.
There
isn't
going
to
help
much
if
they
can't
see
anything
and
there's
so
much
sediment.
You
know
the
initial
inspection
isn't
going
to
cost
that
much.
It's
really
what
they
find.
G
Our
next
step
is
to
put
dye
in
upstream
and
to
one
confirm,
we
don't
believe,
there's
any
good
reason
why
this
would
happen
but
confirm
that
there's
no
break
on
this
section,
because
that
was
directionally
drilled
in
2006
and
is
20
feet
under
the
bottom
of
the
river.
But
this
was
a
massive
event,
so
things
can
happen.
But
what
we're
hoping
to
determine
if
we
put
in
die
over
here
is,
if
we
see
dye
in
that
same
location
and
we'll
believe
that
it's
a
more
of
a
spot
break
versus.
G
If
we
see
diaper
further
out
in
the
middle
of
the
the
river
or
on
the
other
bank,
then
we're
going
to
have
a
bigger
situation
on
our
hands,
letting
us
know
that
there's
either
multiple
breaks
or
potentially
that
a
whole
section
of
the
pipe
has
been
washed
away,
which
would
we're
hoping?
That's
not
the
case.
We're
hoping
it's
just
a
small
break
on
one
side.
F
Buy
a
maybe
so
Council
Chang
brings
up
a
really
good
point
in
that
you
know.
Once
we
get
the
bypass
piping
in
place
and
that
we're
managing
100
of
flows
on
normal
days,
then
that
will
buy
us
a
little
time
to
evaluate
Alternatives
having
a
diver
down
and
giving
us
information
about
a
temporary
patch.
It's
going
to
be
helpful.
Maybe
there's
a
way
to
put
a
collar
a
sleeve
on
the
on
the
pipe
thing.
While
we
explore
do
we
directionally
drill
this
Crossing?
Do
we
abandon
this
Crossing
and
do
a
pipe
Landslide?
H
F
F
So
as
I've
committed
to
a
number
of
new
North
End
residents,
who've
already
proactively
reached
out
I
said
we
will
not
just
try
to
fix
what's
there
without
doing
a
study
of
what
the
various
alternatives
are
and
I
know,
Megan's
fully
supportive
of
that
path
too,
and
you
have
our
commitment
that
will
take
this
unfortunate
instant
as
an
opportunity
to
work.
Babe.
H
F
G
We
will
still,
we
will
still
be
requesting
people
to
conserve
their
I
believe
we
can
talk
about
it,
but
during
the
bypass
pumping
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
fully
capture,
particularly
during
Peak
flows,
it
may
move
to
only
conserving
when
there's
a
rain
event.
So
we
need
to
play
that
out,
but
we'll
be
about
we'll
be
evaluating
when
we
can
lift
that
conservation
notice.
I
E
F
E
J
I
just
know
from
long
long
ago,
when
I
was
married,
my
husband
did
a
lot
of
work,
getting
people
trained
so
that
they
would
be
successful
once
they
came
out
of
prison
and
could
have
a
job
and
I
just
think.
This
is
such
an
important
part
of
Rehabilitation
to
give
people
a
feeling
of
satisfaction
and
pride
in
the
fact
that
they
can
support
themselves.
So
that's
something
that
I
wanted
to
speak
in
support
of
I'm
sure,
since
it's
on
consent,
there's
no
controversy,
but
I
thought
it
needed
to
be
highlighted.
J
The
second
thing
is
the
Legacy
fund.
There's
a
memo
for
you
and
you
know,
I,
don't
know
why
I
I
kind
of
mother,
this
fund
and
I've
been
involved
with
the
conservation
board
discussion
regarding
this
proposed
change,
which
really
talks
about
taking
so
there's.
30
percent
of
it
goes
for
stewardship
and
then
70
was
for
land
acquisition,
and
what
this
is
asking
is
that
that
70,
not
70
percent,
now
be
divided
as
40
percent
for
land
acquisition
and
30
percent
for
nature-based,
climate
Solutions
and
I
totally
support
this
proposal.
J
It's
not
in
it's
not
in
cement,
it's
flexible
and
so,
and
I
hope
that
people
will
look
at
it
and
see
if
it's
the
right
ratio.
I
understand
right
now.
There's
a
healthy
balance
in
the
in
the
fund
for
land
acquisition,
but
I
want
to
recall
for
some
of
the
people
in
the
room
that
when
Eric
Farrell's
project
came
forward
and
we
wanted
to
buy
some
of
those
Acres,
we
depleted
that
fund
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
you
want
to
be
ever
mindful
of
opportunities.
J
I
know
people
feel
there
aren't
opportunities
like
that
in
the
future.
I
I'm,
not
certain,
if
that's
true
but
I,
do
know
that
this
fund
is
not
only
for
large
land
mass
Acquisitions,
but
it's
also
for
small
little
pocket
parks
and
small
spaces
and
I
would
say
these
as
I'm
going
to
Define
them.
Breathing
spaces
will
become
more
important,
more
and
more
important
as
we
develop
more
fully
the
city
so
I
want
that
that
money
to
be
available
it
gives
open
space
a
chance
to
exist
because
developers
have
funds
and
open
space.
J
Didn't
and
open
space
doesn't
have
a
voice.
The
conservation
board
and
the
community
is
that
voice.
So
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
that
and
the
last
thing
is
Catherine.
When
I
was
talking
about
the
budget
and
concern
about
taxation,
you
gave
a
an
estimate
for
or
not
it
wasn't
an
estimate,
but
it
had
to
do
with
I
think
370,
000
home
or
something
like
that,
and
you
know
you
came
up
with
a
dollar
amount.
J
Now
my
property
is,
is
valued
at
390,
000,
I'm,
sharing
it
with
the
world,
but
my
Municipal
tax
was
turned
out
to
be
172.74
increase,
so
Catherine
you
were
spot
on
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
with
what
you
thought
the
impact
would
be
now.
Why
am
I
bringing
this
up
I'm
in
the
state
and
the
education
tax
it
was,
was
an
increase
also.
J
E
E
Don't
believe
so
so
I'm
gonna
close
the
public
forum
and
it
will
move
then
to
the
consent
agenda,
be
as
happens
during
these
summer
meetings.
When
we
are
meeting
less
frequently,
we
have
a
long
agenda
tonight,
there's
been
an
attempt
to
limit
our
delivery
of
items
just
15
of
them,
and
so
we
do
have
this
consent
agenda
here.
Are
we
ready
for
a
motion
report
on
the
consent
agenda.
E
H
E
E
H
G
G
One
of
the
particular
themes
that
they
found
both
in
Wastewater
as
well
as
water
distribution,
was
that
our
current
number
of
Staffing
was
not
accounting
for
accurate,
labor
labor
yield,
which
is
sort
of
a
fancy
way
of
saying
we've
got.
We
need
a
crew
of
four
in
order
to
do
work.
We
in
theory
have
two
Crews
of
four.
G
We
have
eight
people,
but
when
you
start
to
factor
in
the
fact
that
people
have
babies
and
need
training
and
are
out
on
vacation,
we
functionally
don't
usually
have
two
Crews
of
four
and
thus
are
not
able
to
accomplish
the
work
that
is
necessary
in
a
safe
Manner
and
so
as
part
of
the
budget
and
as
part
of
that
recommendation
for
us
tell
us,
we
are
proposing
to
add
two
additional
positions.
Ask
me
positions
to
that
work
group.
G
Since
an
amount
of
time
has
passed,
they
are
owed
retropay
back
to
that
original
request,
and
so
our
request
includes
paying
up
to
500
or
5500
of
retroactive
pay.
The
final
amount
will
be
calculated
by
payroll,
because
these
employees
do
do
a
fair
amount
of
overtime.
So
it's
not
as
simple
as
just
calculating
the
number
of
40-hour
weeks.
At
that
time,.
E
H
H
G
B
In
the
clerk's
office,
the
first
resolution
is
for
our
regular
seven
million
dollars
of
annual
borrowing,
two
million
for
us
2
million
No,
2
million
for
school
and
three
million
for
bed.
The
second
resolution
is
essentially
the
same
thing
but,
as
you
may
recall,
last
year,
instead
of
doing
long-term
bonding
for
that
7
million,
we
decided
to
do
a
short-term
note
that
comes
payable
after
one
year,
so
we're
refinancing.
B
B
B
B
No
one
can
forget
the
165
million
that
the
voters
authorized
at
this
point.
We've
been
working
with
the
school,
they
only
need
130
million,
and
that
includes
a
refinancing
of
40
million
that
you
have
already
approved,
and
then
we
have
resolutions
for
all
five
and
if
there
are
any
questions,
I
am
happy
to
answer.
H
A
is
yeah
I
didn't
I,
wasn't
at
the
school
board
six,
so
I'm
not
aware
of
what
decisions
were
made
is
there?
Has
there
been
continuing
discussions
given
the
money
that
the
state
has
included
in
the
last
year's
budget?
Has
there
been
any
new
estimates
on
how
much
of
the
165
they're
actually
going
to
be
looking
for.
B
E
H
L
E
E
Flanagan
is
NK
to
me
is
that
they,
you
know
they're
plea
so
far,
things
are
going
fairly.
Well,
we
had
a
successful
securing
of
16
million
I
believe
it
was
for
cleanup
the
first.
There
are
three
major
construction
contracts.
Two
of
them
are
in
and
on
budget.
The
third
one,
though,
is
the
biggest
one
in
that
one.
It's
not
due
back
until
later
this
summer,.
A
Been
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
plans
of
the
city.
As
you
know,
this
is
sort
of
the
linchpin
holding
just
many
things.
You
know
in
our
ability
to
realize
some
of
the
goals
that
we
might
have
and
to
be
able
to
do
that
sooner
rather
than
later.
If
we,
you
know
at
least
start
that
process.
So
if
it
turns
out
that
of
165,
they
need
125.
That's
that's!
That's
big
news
and
news
that
we'd
love
to
have
sooner
rather
than
later
so
I'm,
just
wondering.
A
E
Yeah
I
agree:
I
think
it
is
just
to
be
clear.
I
think
we
are
that
considerable
period
of
time
from
now
on,
slowly
between
the
the
main
campus
project
and
the
the
airport,
construction
and
the
as
well
as
a
session
where
there's
going
to
be
attempt
to
secure
additional
money
for
technical
education,
I
I
think
for
some
time
consuming
period
of
time
before
we'll
be
able
to
sort
of
Bank
on
anything
savings
from
that
365
authorized
certainly
agree.
E
A
A
H
H
A
Thank
you.
The
only
question
that
I
have-
and
it's
not
directly
related
to
this
I
mean
I
vote
for
this.
It
just
seems
so.
We
have
one
two
three
four:
we
now
have
four
events
planners
in
the
city,
sort
of
at
I,
guess
I'm
a
little
bit
at
a
loss,
I,
don't
know
why
we
don't
have
a
department
of
events,
planning
or
all
poor
events
planners
aren't
working
together.
I
can't
believe
that
there
are
redundancies
and
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
there
could
be
greater
efficiency.
A
I
mean
I'll
vote
for
it
now,
but
I
I,
don't
really
agree
with
this
approach.
I
think
that
we
need
to
just
like
just
like
we're
re-grading
a
position,
because
the
others
are
all
at
that
different
position.
In
fact,
one
of
them
is
at
a
grade
18,
the
other
two
at
17.
and
I
certainly
understand
why
someone
is
doing
comparable.
Work
wants
to
be
at
the
same
break.
E
Yes,
first
and
Paul
so
of
course
explicitly
my
budget
memo.
This
is
one
of
the
areas
that
we
have
called
out
that
we're
going
to
look
for.
We
wanted
to
do
this.
You
may
recall
a
couple
years
ago
and
we
brought
forward
a
plan
to
study
it
then-
and
there
was
a
tremendous
pushback
from
the
council
over
the
idea,
because
there
was
a
concern
about
somehow
that
undermining
reib
that
there
be
any
centralization
of
the
event
planning.
E
So
I
am
thrilled
that
the
council
is
now
in
a
very
different
place
and
then,
when
we
first
brought
this
idea
up,
it
was
made
pretty
remarkable
to
be
the
level
of
push-up
back.
We
got
at
the
time
and
I'm
excited
about
the
thought
of
moving
forward
with
this.
Now
it
is
something
that
is
over
to
do.
It
should
have
happened
before
I.
A
A
E
A
We
didn't,
we
didn't
vote
on
it
because
it
probably
never
got
to
that
point
and
I
guess.
The
point
is
that
you
know
if
if
there
are,
if
people
are
working
together
and
there
was
no
concern
about
people
usurping
other
people's
Authority
and
taking
away
things
from
people
that
are
in
a
better
position
to
to
do
that,
work,
then
I
think
we
should
look
into
something
like
they
look
into
some.
H
E
H
E
As
you
know,
we
are
just
a
few
weeks
from
having
passed
the
budget
authorizing
this
and
CEO
and
I've
already
met
I
believe
twice
to
discuss
how
we're
going
to
approach
this
and
I
believe
we
will.
We
are
meeting
again
this
week
and
we
will
be
in
position
to
lay
out
the
plan
for
the
study,
specifically
as
well
as
for
the
other
budget
work.
H
H
A
E
E
Brings
us
to
item
number
eight
with
authorization
executed,
contract
with
alert
Enterprises
for
identity
management,
software,
sweet
and
Associated
Professional
Services
welcome,
Nick
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
click
this
one.
Thank
you,
mayor,
I'm
actually
going
to
hand
it
right
over
to
Dave
Carman
he's
the
deputy
director
of
Aviation
operations
and
also
our
airport.
K
Security
Court
great.
So
what
this
is.
This
is
a
identity
management
software
suite
it's
a
contract
for
five
years.
Duration.
First
year
is
80,
82,
6,
20
and
then
every
subsequent
year
is
48
and
600,
and
what
it
does
allows
us
to
be
greatly
more
efficient
with
Badger
process
at
the
airport
and
reason
being.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
different
places?
K
We
draw
from
different
information
if
somebody
gets
a
new
badge
for
the
airport,
we
have
about
1800
badges,
the
way
it's
process
per
year
and
we
have
badging
appointments
that
go
from
10
a.m
until
4
P.M
Monday
through
Friday.
So
it's
a
huge
amount
of
time
that
we
take
in
order
to
take
to
process
these
Badges,
and
this
will
really
increase
the
efficiency
we
have
to
do
the
FBI
at
bad
background
check
as
well
as
TSA
website,
but
it
does.
It
pulls
everything
together
as
well
as
it
allows
us
to
to
audit
the
badges.
K
M
K
Also
allows
us
to
get
rid
of
all
the
badgering
paperwork
that
we
do
right
now.
We
have
1800
badge
folders
in
their
file
cabinet
and
plus
to
eliminate
all
of
those
so
great
to
finally
be
able
to
to
come
up
to
to
Residence
regarding
Huntsville
I.
Think
that's
really
about
it.
We
have
any
questions
about
that.
E
E
C
E
M
It
is
our
request
to
the
state
of
Vermont.
Brian
Pine
see
those
director
our
applications
in
the
state
of
Vermont.
It
was
for
one
million
four
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand,
so
we
have
a
slave
short.
Actually
I
may
be
off
by
a
little
bit.
We
have
a
slight
shortfall,
but
this
is
really
good
news,
because
we
had
counselor
previously
allocated
some
of
the
argument
funds
around
almost
this
efforts
to
support
this.
So
we
have,
we
have
a
balance
available
as
well.
M
E
E
H
E
E
M
The
city
has
access
to
federal
funds.
If
we
do
the
work
required
to
lay
out
a
plan
for
how
we're
going
to
use
those
federal
funds-
and
this
is
entirely
focused
on
serving
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
So
there
is
a
planning
function
that
goes
into
this.
So
this
is
both
the
planning
Grant,
as
well
as
the
actual
permanent
Supportive
Housing
funds,
which
are
dollars
that
provide
both
the
rental
assistance
and
a
portion
of
the
services
for
those
who
need
the
rental
assistance
who
are
coming
out
of
homelessness.
M
This
is
literally,
if
you
think,
of
Elmwood
as
a
bridge.
This
is
what
the
bridge
part
of
what
way
they're
bridging
to
and
our
biggest
challenge
in
actually
putting
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
dollars
on
the
street.
Helping
people
is
units
to
go
to
so
we
have.
We
have
the
subsidy,
we
have
the
services,
but
we
don't
have
the
housing.
M
E
Challenge
at
one
space
and
specifically
a
challenge
that,
with
the
Special
Assistant
that
homelessness
starts
focused
on
and
a
systemic
issue,
that
you
know
the
kind
of
systemic
issue
you
create
a
position
to
address
and
so
focused
on
these
crises.
With
the
end
of
the
motel
program,
selling
at
Belmont
got
a
big
job
at
still
there,
but
for
the
council
and
for
the
board
of
finance
and
for
those
who.
M
May
be
listening
is
that
the
continue
the
coordinated
entry
system
think
of
it
as
a
as
a
way
to
ensure
fairness
and
equity
for
those
who
are
seeking
housing,
but
we're
have
ramped
it
up
enough
that
it's
housing
about
25
households
a
month
are
moving
from
homelessness
to
housing.
It's
just
that
the
input
the
inflow
is
still
too
great
for
us
to
completely.
You
know
turn
that
into
a
much.
H
E
E
B
E
E
You
Brian
item
number
11..
This
is
the
creation
of
the
executive
manager
for
the
police
department,
I,
believe
I
said:
Chief
Murad
is
zooming
in
from
the
kitchen
or
this
item.
Thank
you,
Chief
and
I
will
just
I
think
this
was
mentioned
in
a
memo
about
it.
Just
reiterate
this.
This
is
a
position
that
have
been
talking
about
we've
been
talking
about
for
some
time.
It
was
in
the
public
safety
an
extra
next
three
percent
Public
Safety
plan
that
I
put
out
in
January.
E
The
idea
with
this
kind
of
project
management
oriented
position
is
that
it
would
help
Advance
special
tasks,
including
CNA
position
as
DNA
recommendations
and
the
I
think
it's
consistent
with
confused
the
significant
amount
of
Innovation
and
reform
that
the
council
is
looking
for
to
be
happening
from
the
police
department.
So
this
is
my
full
support.
Chief.
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
N
Thank
you,
Mr,
Mayor
and
and
first
of
all,
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
for
hearing
this
request
and
for
giving
it
due
consideration.
You
know,
there's
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
change.
That's
going
on
inside
the
department
I've
shown
to
this
body,
to
the
council
as
a
whole
and
and
to
the
police
commission
as
well.
The
degree
to
which
are
our
total
sort
of
balance
has
changed
from
an
organization
that
was
well
over
three
quarters
sworn
officers
and
is
now
a
little
bit
less
than
two-thirds.
N
Those
are
changes
that
are
in
in
works.
We
don't
see
those
reversing,
even
as
we
work
hard
to
build
towards
the
head
count
that
this
body
has
allotted
for
the
Department.
We
are
trying
to
create
these
new
resources,
many
of
which
are
not
sworn.
This
position
is
instrumental
in
being
able
able
to
oversee
those,
but
more
important
is
some
of
those.
N
But,
more
importantly,
is
instrumental
in
being
able
to
be
a
sort
of
Clearing
House
for
the
Myriad
of
projects
that
are
going
on
the
Myriad
of
work
on
addressing
recommendations
from
CNA
and
the
efforts
that
we're
trying
to
make
in
order
to
create
a
police
department.
That
will
be
in
many
ways,
unlike
any
other
police
department
in
the
country
and
and
really
one
that
is
going
to
speak
uniquely
to
our
community
and
its
needs
and
its
desires
and
hopes.
I
I
You
know
I
understand
that
we've
been
able
to
sort
of
plan
on
some
attrition
to
savings
from
attrition
to
fund
additional
positions
in
the
past.
But-
and
you
know,
are
we
confident
that
the
money's
going
to
be
there
to
support
this
position
long
term,
given
what
we
know
that
future
budget
years
are
going
to
be
tight.
N
The
attrition
that's
mentioned
is
not
merely
the
attrition
that
we
achieve
by
being
down
by
approximately
20-something
sworn
police
officers.
There
are
a
number
of
other
positions
that
we're
down
on
as
well.
You
know
we're
working
hard
to
re-staff
and
and
fully
make
fully
functional
the
Dispatch
Center
we're
working
hard
in
a
lot
of
these
places.
But
for
the
time
being,
we
do
have
these
savings
I'm,
quite
confident
that
we've
got
the
Elbow
Room
to
make
this
position
fit
for
the
next
two
to
three
fiscal
years.
E
E
H
A
B
May
have
tried
to
Benchmark
it
to
kind
of
similar
roles
and
then
actually
upon
discussion
with
HR
and
the
chief.
We
realized
that
the
needs
were
more
intense
or
particular,
and
when
it
went
through
the
grading
process,
it
wasn't
such
an
administrative
role.
It's
really
more
of
a
project
management
role
and
chief,
you
probably
have
more
of
the
specifics
of
that
go
ahead.
Yeah.
N
Thank
you
so
much,
and
the
chief
of
staff
is
absolutely
right.
That's
that's
sort
of
the
process
that
was
followed
that
we
benchmarked
it
and
and
put
it
as
a
placeholder
I,
think
that
initially
we
were
thinking.
This
is
a
project
manager
and
therefore
something
that's
really
going
to
be
primarily
dealing
with
CNA.
It
is
now
as
the
memo
notes.
N
From
both
Cape
from
the
sworn
staff
from
from
various
other
parts
of
the
department,
it's
it's
a
much
broader
role
than
I,
think
we
sort
of
initially
envisioned
and
that
accounted
I
I
would
say
for
the
grading.
I
I
wasn't
obviously
part
of
the
grading
team,
but
I
do
think
that
that
was
what
factored
into
that
increase.
H
E
A
A
Generally
speaking,
if
you
went
by
the
book
A
modernization,
the
last
20
to
25
years,
and
so
now
we're
at
29
years,
it's
getting
tricky,
we
haven't
had
any
harmful
accidents,
but
people
have
been
caught
in
the
elevator
and
so
we'd
like
to
have
the
modernization
done.
Keep
everybody
nice
and
safe,
keep
everybody
moving
efficiently.
A
What's
really
interesting
about
this
building
because
of
when
it
was
built,
is
that
it
didn't
have
an
elevator
in
it
originally
and
so
to
get
it
from
for
a
public
member
to
get
from
the
ground
floor
to
the
second
floor,
if
you
don't
take
the
elevator,
you
have
to
take
the
stairs
outside,
which
we
know
in
Vermont.
Letters
is
not
necessarily
the
most
something,
so
that
makes
it
a
really
big
deal
in
this
building.
C
B
M
A
A
H
E
So
I
actually
had
this
is
worth
everyone.
This
detail
in
the
memo.
Yes,
Raymond
didn't
miss
his
word,
so
the
workaround
for
the
period
when
we
do
not
have
a
functionality
will
be
including
coordination,
notification,
signage
for
employees
public.
Any
public
meetings
for
very
important
meeting,
so
we'll
have
options
to
schedule
around
a
month
or
more
of
an
output
meetings
appropriately
move
the
meetings
to
a
different
location,
so
I
mean
because
it's
that
level
of
seriousness
of
when
it's
out
of.
A
The
game
plan
for
right
now
would
be
that
it's
going
to
take
probably
at
least
six
to
eight
weeks
to
get
everything
in
based
on
that
we'll
have
a
conversation
before
anything
actually
gets,
ordered
and
go
okay.
If
it's
actually
going
to
take
eight
weeks
to
get
in
and
then
it's
going
to
take
three
months
to
build
it
out.
Where
does
that
put
us
on
the
calendar
and
then
get
with
the
city
hall
team
and
explain
a
little
bit
in
more
detail?
If
we
do
it
now,
here's
what
it's
going
to
entail.
A
A
E
A
A
Restoring
the
arched
windows
on
the
third
floor
of
City
Hall
and
restoring
beautiful
wood
doors
that
are
on
the
exterior
of
this
building
and
bumping
it
all
into
one
project
together,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
have
contractors
coming
and
going
and
coming
and
going
and
spending
more
money.
Doing
all
that
and
we
landed
on
a
very
fair
bit
from
a
local
Vermont
company.
Who's
done
a
lot
of
work
with
cedo
before
and
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do.
Everything
that
we
wanted
to,
including
after
their
three-year
warranty,
is
ended.
A
H
A
And
I
think
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
we're
not
subbing
it
out
to
a
lot
of
different
people.
You
know
we
found
somebody
not
only
a
local,
but
somebody
who
can
do
everything
at
one
time
and
that
just
makes
it
so
the
contractors
don't
have
to
come
and
go
and
pack
up
and
continue
relocated.
A
So
in
the
basement
of
this
building,
there
is
a
sump
tank
that
holds
hundreds
of
gallons
of
water,
and
that's
some
take
is
something
that
is
needed
for
the
evaporative
system
for
the
building
over
the
last
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
years,
because
I've
only
been
in
this
position
for
about
a
year
and
a
half.
Now
chemicals
have
been
lacking
in
there
and
that
plus
just
time
things
go
over
time.
A
So
what
we've
done?
It's
had
them
help
us
with
this
initial
project,
knowing
that,
as
we
keep
electrifying
the
building
and
moving
this
building
towards
our
Net
Zero
Energy
goals
that
this
sump
tank
will
be
perfectly
sized
for
nature
projects.
So
we
know
we're
being
efficient,
we're
not
wasting
money
and
we're
getting
done
right
away.
What
we
have
to
get
done
for
the
safety
of
the
building.
H
And
think
about
also
how
we
bring
International
relationship,
you
know
to
be
a
player,
we
need
to
bring
them
Square
and
see
that
this
is
a
position
model.
You
know
very
bad
bonuses
and
I'm
glad
that
we
have
them
yeah.
Thank
you.
That's
good.
Thank
you
happy
to
make
the
motion
and
thank
you.
Ma'am
I
want
to
make
it
safe,
but
not
a
good
building.
E
E
D
A
E
There
have
been
the
security
situation
has
improved
since
the
hardening
of
the
building.
That
was
done
around
the
time.
There
were
concerns
about
the
infrastructure
technology
infrastructure
that
remained
in
the
building
alarms
are
added
another,
so
things
have
been
better
as
my
understanding
since
our
work
was
done,
we
also
are
moving
rapidly
to
complete
the
yeah.
A
A
A
It
is
expensive,
right,
I
think
that
the
safety
of
people
around
the
building
is
worth
that
money
and
I.
Think
if
we
had
any
alternatives,
we
would
have
certainly
gone
another
direction
to
at
least
explore
another
alternative.
We
work
hand
in
hand
with
engineering
Ventures
to
come
up
with
the
smartest
safest,
most
efficient
ways
to
secure
this
building
and
make
it
safe.
A
A
Certainly
you
know
I
think
that
your
comment
about
having
the
fence
around
it
and
the
just
that
make
it
more
of
an
eyesore
I
think
you
could
go
with
them
a
couple
different
ways:
I
think
you
could
look
at
it
and
say:
wow.
We
had
to
put
up
a
fence
around
the
building,
but
if
the
fence
also
keeps
encampments
away
and
allows
us
to
maybe
clean
up
the
graffiti
and
keep
the
graffiti
at
Bay,
it
actually
could
make
it
look
a
lot
more
pleasing
to
people.
I.
Think.
A
E
O
A
The
certainly
if
anybody
wants
to
climb
it
I
mean
you
can
you
can
scale
any
building?
If
you
try
hard
enough
and
they
do
people
do
scale
Memorial
as
it
is
without
offense
right.
Unfortunately,
so
you
know,
the
standard
fences
are
usually
starting
at
six
feet
high,
so
we
did
upgrade
it
to
eight
feet.
A
High
and
beyond
that
we
didn't
do
anything
extra
as
far
as
adding
I
don't
know
what
the
technical
names
are
for,
but
if
you,
for
instance,
fence
around
a
jail
or
a
prison,
you
can
have
extra
pieces
at
the
top
that
make
it.
So
you
can't
climb
up
there
and
barbed
wire,
and
things
like
that.
You
just
didn't-
want
to
bring
that
into
the
downtown
stage
of
that
one.
Okay,.
D
A
A
H
A
Area
of
the
defense
is,
is
scaled
and,
and
we
have
to
be
reasonable
about
what
is
going
to
happen
here.
An
eight-foot
fence
is
absolutely
not
going
to
give
people.
You
know
when
you
look
at
the
top
of
the
old
YMCA
building
and
you
see
graffiti.
You
know
20
20
feet
up
in
the
air.
I
think
we
just
have
to
be
honest
about
what
is
going
to
happen
here.
So
an
eight-foot
fence
is
an
eight
foot
fence.
People
are
going
to
go
over
that
and
they're
going
to
go
back
and
forth.
It
is.
A
It
is
only
a
matter
of
time
before
parts
of
that
fence
are
going
to
need
repair.
So
is
that
part
of
the
content?
Is
that
part
of
the
contingency?
How
do
we
then
repair
that,
if
we're
going
to
put
up
the
fence,
we
might
as
well
know
how
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
it?
If
there
are
problems,
it's
it's
not
necessarily
part
of
the
contingency,
but
that
contingency
money
is
part
of
the
million
dollar
budget.
A
A
M
A
E
E
Oh,
yes,
president
Paul,
yes,
that
Council
Barlow,
yes,
councilor,
Jang
and
I
would
be
voting
yes.
So
the
item
passes
by
about
four
to
one
I,
so
briefly
just
wanted
to
share.
So
that's
the
end
of
that
item.
We
have
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
amended
the
agenda
just
having
foot
communication
from
me
regarding
ATV.
Oh.
A
E
E
It's
great
to
have
all
this
move
forward.
Btv
cares
I,
know,
there's
substantial
interest
from
the
Council
on
this.
We
basically
just
wanted
to
share
that.
We
are
very
likely
to
call
a
short
or
Finance
meeting
next
week
as
well
before
the
council
meeting,
because
I
I
believe
we're
going
to
be
in
position
to
create
to
put
before
you.
E
The
documents
sit
before
the
creation
of
the
city
positions
necessary
for
the
btb
cherish
team
to
be
stood
up
and
consistent
with
you
know
where
it's
been
headed
for
for
some
time,
and
this
will
be
coming
with
the
police
commission.
My
understanding
has
had
the
opportunity
to
review
these
three
job
description.
I,
guess
two
job
descriptions,
four
three
positions,
and
we
also
expect
to
have
documentation
formalizing
our
agreement
with
UVM
Medical
Center,
who
will
be
playing
a
key
role
in
the
features
team.
E
H
O
E
That
we
are
I,
think
I
think
the
job
descriptions
do
exist,
I
think
we're
still
working
on
has
gone
through
this
process
with
the
police
commission.
So
we'll
try
to
to
sudden
you
know
if
you're
asking
for
them
as
a
bounce
or
try
to
send
that
out,
they'll
be
supporting
materials
will
need
until
the
you
know,
meeting
deadlines
to
get
those
all
in
place.
O
Okay,
because
I
would
love
to
have
an
opportunity
to
to
take
a
look
at
this
I've
been
very
invested
in
us.
Getting
this
on
going
since
I
was
a
police
commissioner
and
I've
been
monitoring
it
very
carefully
and
serving
on
the
Public
Safety
Committee
I
would
like
to
see
those
of
us
on
at
least
on
the
Public
Safety
Committee
have
a
chance
to
look
at
those
job
descriptions
as
well.
Thank
you.
E
Okay,
if
there's
no
questions
at
that,
I
will
close.
That
item
and
Kathy
reminded
me.
We
also
we're
not
getting.
Our
work
is
not
completely
done
because
we
we're
in
a
jury
in
this
meeting
and
I
guess.
I
will
formally
do
that.
There's
no
objection!
You
complete
your
business,
so
no
objection,
I'm
interning
at
7,
10,
the
board
of
finance
and.