Chittenden County, Vermont City of Burlington, 4 Oct 2022

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00:00:00 Call to Order
00:00:05 Motion to Amend/Adopt Agenda
00:00:32 PUBLIC FORUM - Verbal Comments
00:00:45 North Terminal Renovations Grant Acceptance/Engleberth Contract
00:04:05 South Apron and Taxiway G Contracts and Grant Acceptance
00:19:51 BTC Center Project Contract
00:33:29 North Concourse Replacement Project Contract

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A

All right so uh we'll call to order the special airport Commission meeting at 405 PM. The first item on the agenda.

B

Is going in progress.

A

Do I hear a motion to approve the agenda as presented.

C

A

Hallett has approved. Is there a second executed by Eric any discussion hearing that all those in favor adopting the agenda as presented? Please signify by saying aye.

C

A

Any opposed that carries unanimously item three. Is public forum uh I, don't see anyone on the call Hannah? Is there anyone in the room from the public nope? Okay, then we will close down public forum move on to action items. The first one is item 4.01.

A

uh This is related to the North Terminal Renovations, and do I hear a motion to accept, recommend acceptance of the FAA Grant and the contract with inglebirth construction for renovations in the North Terminal.

C

A

That's been moved by Helen is there a second I think I saw Greg's hand for the second all right uh discussion. This will be Nick and Larry.

D

Yeah, so uh this this is a kind of a uh Second Step to opening up the terminal integration project, which again is opening uh this Thursday at 10, A.M, uh soft opening and then it'll officially be open next week for the public. This is the complete other end of the airport north Concourse, where American, Airlines and United Airlines are um uh on the second floor.

D

uh This is uh just shy of a two million dollar project which will renovate that existing space, essentially where the north security checkpoint is today, will be retrofitted to allow additional seating and additional capacity specifically for those two Airlines, and um it does require some relocation of concessions. uh I did, we did add the uh the plan set in there, so you can take a take a peek into it.

D

um uh It moves things around changes, the exit door, add some automation to that exit door and, like I said it does require Hudson News to relocate and they're very happy to do so. They're they're, in fact, going to reinvest into uh the airport which is outside of this. This scope. uh We did go out to bid a couple months ago and angle.

D

Birth was the lowest apparent bidder, uh which is a really convenient actually because they also are the contractor for the terminal integration project, which does have some work up on the North security checkpoint already as part of that project. uh So very exciting opens up the door for for new seating new new uh new uh space for our public Nick.

E

One other quick thing is the existing escalators and stairway uh will be removed. There'll be more space on the first floor for people continuing their luggage and obviously more space upstairs because there won't be that that hole there anymore cool.

A

Thank you, Commissioners, any any questions. No.

A

Okay, I just had one observation on this: the memo that's going to the board of financial city council as well as the other three memos uh Nick, they still say, you're the acting director. So it's up to you if.

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A

Change that or not.

E

That's my fault: I'll fix that hey yeah right.

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F

C

Enough to pay increase.

A

All right any further discussion hearing, none of those in favor of these recommendations, please signify by saying aye.

C

A

Any opposed that carries unanimously item 4.02 is the South apron and taxiway Gulf contract. So do I hear a motion to act, recommend the acceptance of an sfaa Grant as well, the contract with ECI oil Tanner and the for the South apron and taxiway golf extension and the related budget amendment.

C

A

Moved by Helen is there a second.

A

Thank you Eric for the second uh discussion, so Nick and Larry again, Larry.

D

You wanna, you wanna, go through this one.

E

Sure uh this basically is extending taxpay, Golf and uh general aviation apron down towards in the Quarry uh adjacent to the new manufacturing Facility by Beta. um It was bid out. We had three bidders uh Casella construction, uh SD, Ireland and Engineers construction. Engineers was the lowest um dinner and um acceptable, obviously to us they've done. I was doing a lot of good work here when they worked here.

E

um So the only Nuance to this is that the FAA only pays to within 50 feet of of that of beta's um manufacturing facility. So they will have to reimburse us for those calls for that 50 feet to connect to our uh general aviation.

F

D

Is a brand new apron 2 that'll be open to all general aviation uh this? This is a pretty substantial. You know this is. This: is over a five million dollar apron project. This is a substantial new space for the Burlington Airport, which is really exciting. It supports uh folks like beta, but it also supports uh the overall GA community.

C

This didn't require any fill right. That's sort of farther south.

E

Actually, the uh the majority of the excavation in material is being removed by Beta down there. There we will be um making some adjustments to put appropriate subbase in for the bicuminous apron, but um you know the positive materials down there will are being moved by um by Beta.

C

Okay, thank you.

F

On the the uh project location map is, is this number 18 or is it somewhere else on a map? Here? It's.

E

In the Corey, it's 18, yes, okay! That's what I thought! Thank you.

D

Yeah, so that that's a good point Eric actually, so this is the furthest south that the airport property extends. This is not in the Northwest Quadrant. This isn't anywhere up there. This is the South. uh This is going to be the very Southern apron of the airport, uh closer to the Williston Road uh property.

A

Any further discussion from counselors yes go ahead. You ready.

C

uh On the revenue side, it mentions the inner fund transfer proceeds. Can someone explain that to me? Please.

G

So the interfin transfer, when we have a grant like this, it's funded 90 by the FAA, so the 10 percent that we have left, that's what we call our local share and that, typically, um if there is enough State funding which there hasn't been, but we are the formula cause for six percent coming from the state of Vermont and then four percent coming from uh the airport. In our case, what we do if the state funding is not adequate because it's across all of our grants, we have a cap under the state of Vermont.

G

They give us a half a million dollars a year, so we we have more needs than that with these grants. So once we expend that and hit our cap, the rest is on us, so we may be up to ten percent. At worst case, 10 percent of airport would be covering the local share. What we are allowed to do this qualifies to be reimbursed under the pfcs. So that's the passenger facility charges.

G

It is a per ticket charge for everybody who flies a leg out uh in for Burlington, and so we bring in quite a bit of money that and then we have to put together applications to spend that money. So that is how we go ahead and essentially reimburse the airport for covering those local shares.

G

So that's what we call an interfund transfer. It's just that's an accounting side of things where our Auditors want us to show it that way on, for our financial statement purposes,.

C

Thank you. Thank you. Marie I, just I wasn't sure if it meant that you were going from one line item to another in terms of the inner fund transfer, but that explains it. One follow-up question on that, uh since it is sort of like a user fee, uh just I'm just sort of curious. What's any idea what they added to us per ticket is.

G

You talking about your question specific to the pfcs. Yes,.

C

G

So if it's four dollars a ticket that is set by.

D

G

Oh 450, sorry yeah 450 a ticket and it is set. So when you purchase a ticket or anybody purchases, a ticket you'll see taxes and fees and 450. Out of that is a PFC fee and all of the airlines. Then they submit that to us. So any airlines that are it's actually people that are coming into Burlington and Landing. All their ultimate destination is Burlington.

G

So we get um we get the primary Airlines, but sometimes we got some really interesting ones from around the world where somebody starts off someplace and they end here we'll get we'll get a check for 17 something dollars. So you know, depending how many people fly in, so that that money is restricted. We have very St, we have. We have a separate bank account. That's on the uh cash statement that I provide every month. We have a PhD account, it's very, very regulated and we can only use it once we apply to use it.

G

We have to apply to spend them to collect the money and we have to apply to be able to use the money and.

D

And when Marie's talking about applications, this is a Federal Aviation Administration program. So they set that cap of 4.50 it's up to an airport due essentially uh apply to the fa, like Marie, said to uh collect those fees from the airlines. The airlines then have to have a consultation fee. We go through all the projects that we're collecting on making sure that they approve, and not just the the airlines that you're used to American United Delta, we're talking about all of the residual and smaller Airlines as well expressed yet and uh PSA.

D

Every airline that operates out of Burlington, Airport, four dollars and fifty cents is added to the ticket. The airlines do keep a commit, a small administrative fee of 11 cents, and then we retained the 4.49. So it is a.

D

It is an extensively large, uh regulated FAA program uh to help uh to help airports uh fund either local shares or additional projects that the AIP program, which are the grants that you've seen approved in the past for those types of programs that the FAA can't fund, because there's not enough budget uh I will say just just a big uh push and um there's a national advocacy for all Airlines in Burlington is one of them uh to expand that PFC program.

D

The four dollars and fifty cents has been like that for decades, and there is significant capital and infrastructure needs that the FAA can't fulfill on the regular airport Improvement program budget. But PFC programs could uh potentially fill that that back stuff I don't see that going anywhere soon and it's a it's a tricky situation with small Hub airports. Of course, we would like to slightly increase that, but we also know of the highly competitive market in Burlington. We don't necessarily want to see a ticket price increase either.

C

B

I have a couple questions um so we're talking about extending G, so it meets the apron where beta is going to have its facility right will.

D

Eventually, go into the front the hangar doors of the new manufacturing facility for beta.

B

Golf won't, but the apron will you.

F

Get it yep, okay,.

B

Yeah go so, where is the golf gonna extend to I treat the number eight in there? So it's just gonna go it's just gonna go straight and then the apron will meet it.

D

That's correct: if you look at that that map again in in the uh South Hangar there, the dark, roofed hanger, that's in the picture next to 18. the front of the beta manufacturing site is just about in line with that building. uh So if you extend taxiway golf that the apron is in is in front of that entire width of the beta hanger, so it's a it's a uh it's uh equivalent size to the Valley, West apron uh and.

B

Then, okay, so in in theory that apron could be used by anybody in the valley.

D

That's correct yeah. This is a general aviation uh ramp. In fact, the fa does not allow us to apply for Grants unless it is public, accessible and public use. uh Of course, there's a hanger, that's right there, no different than any other hanger. So there's going to be procedures and rules and preferential parking for tenants that are uh adjacent to that. That area no different than any other Hangar on our Airfield. You can't block a hanger door um right.

B

Right, what about the the um the other hanger that may become vacant in the future? The large one that also abuts, that apron would that have access potentially.

D

B

D

That's that's correct to the new apron, that's correct off of text here we go also. Logistically there you'd have to move aircraft over a movement area uh getting into the technical uh stuff, but absolutely this is. This is absolutely available uh to any any transient uh traffic or um a based aircraft at the Burlington Airport.

B

And does it not look, I mean in reality, you're extending golf so that the beta facility can get to the airport great um otherwise there they wouldn't actually really have access, so it?

B

How do you write? How do you write that in for funding when it's, you know? Yes, it's general aviation but the, but the real, significant person that is benefiting from it. The only reason you would even do it is because you have a new facility down there is that.

F

Right, that's not necessarily.

E

So go ahead! Next, one yeah.

D

Yeah, not necessarily that this was part of our master plan. This this uh new building is, is one of uh one of uh a.

G

D

Tenant of ours that is building off of this ramp space, but there's Avail, there's future availability and future Concepts off of this apron uh that we haven't really dove into just yet, um but uh no different than any other new tenant or new uh new facility or new access to an airport. uh We need to extend that taxiway golf to allow accessibility to the public use Runway, so this this isn't exclusive to Beta. This isn't about beta. This is about a general aviation facility. uh This was also a huge.

D

um uh This has been on our master plan for decades, in fact, uh and uh the only reason that we're really able to move this forward ahead of time. This is isn't part of our regular entitlement funds, our normal funds that we get from the FAA or our entitled amount, which is approximately 3.5 million per year. This is above and beyond that this is not part of discretionary funding, we're not competing for this funding.

D

This was a congressionally directed spending bill that allowed us to to not necessarily have to justify the the apron, which is what the fa's language is. We just have to make sure that it's an eligible apron, which means it's publicly accessible.

B

But we still couldn't move forward on it if beta wasn't coming up with the other part that.

D

They're, no, that's not true. No problem.

B

D

Nope this this, this apron is being built, regardless of if beta is building or not.

B

But okay, so maybe I'm reading this wrong. So what is the part that they're contributing then.

D

So under FAA rules, any apron space 50 feet from the edge of a building that is privately owned up to any federally funded apron is not eligible for federal funding because it's exclusive use space. So, therefore, this is the um part of the Grant application because of cost because of the design of the work we did go ahead and and design it and bid it out as part of this project.

D

It doesn't make sense to just bid out the 50 feet in front of the hangar, so that's what's not eligible and will have to be reimbursed um or or direct build uh to Beta.

B

I see all right because they can't they have to make a general use, but it it stops. It stops short of the hanger.

D

um That's correct: if they want to connect to the apron, they need to uh build the 50 feet.

B

Honey, ironic, um okay and then um so we don't need any other entryway like we have with um you know it's not even actually called anything that little curve that goes up from the valley onto golf. It's sort of that no man's land. The tower can't see us, oh by the way, will the tower be able to see the new April.

D

Probably not no.

B

Still still uh stealth apron, um okay, so it it won't, take a new connecting taxi way to meet golf to meet the apron.

D

No this this will go. This golf will end at this new G8.

B

All right, thank you.

A

All right any further discussion hearing, none all those in favor, please signify by saying hi.

C

A

Can you post carries unanimously item 4.03, uh do I hear a motion to recommend to the board of Finance the city council to enter into a contract with the Carlin Johnson for uh Burlington tech center exploratory works second, and that was take my home discussion, Larry and Nick again.

D

Yeah, so we talked about this a little bit at the last meeting, but this is this: is now the contract with mcflurryland Johnson to make sure that uh we, as an airport, are, are able to help as much as possible uh we're we're thankful that there are residual funds from a previous Grant um that we are still able to use specifically for an aviation Technical Center uh for High School uh programs, uh as as the memo States is just shy of about 680 000.

D

So we're using this to support the school district's mission to respect this, the the particular use um into study with the school districts. uh They have their own team. They have their own uh Engineers on board already, but at least to collaborate with them to get a little bit a head start. uh The grant funding the 10 million dollars that you may have seen in the news at the school district applied for uh is still is, is still coming. Their way is still being processed.

D

So this this gets us a little bit of a head start, gets us a little bit um moving forward and allowing uh alternate sites to be located as soon as we have a a better site map and a better site plan. We can also share that with you as well.

D

um It is a really exciting program. It supports that High School Educational uh facility, which right now stands at about 25 000 square feet of of space that this the school district is requesting um and is moving forward with those site Alternatives through a contract with the airport, uh with McFarland Johnson.

D

To to cite this: if there's additional funds remaining after we determine and with the school district where the site is located, uh then we're going to push some of these funding sources towards preliminary design work uh to help the school district even further, so very, very exciting program at happy be too very happy to help help out where, where we can, where the airport can. Without this funding, we would not have been able to budget or or facilitate any additional um uh funding or work with the school district at 680.

D

000 is a substantial amount to get thing. Get the ball rolling so uh very happy and very excited to see what the next steps are.

A

Counselors any questions for Nick.

B

So is the first piece just to the first part of the money to be used is to be used to uh figure out some options for sites. You.

D

B

D

The initial scope right now, yep yeah.

B

And how much does that cost like? What do you guys? What is what is a norm for looking at something like that when you hire somebody.

D

So right now the uh the the scope of work is is larger than just the siding right now, uh but right now we are looking to sign a contract with McFarland Johnson for that, uh just under 550 000, with that contingency in there um uh we may or may not need that this is this is based on time. This is based on uh really the collaboration with the school district. What what resources we can share and help them with, but right now it's it's approximately that 550 000, which does include the next steps.

D

uh So to answer your questions specifically I, don't recall offhand exactly what the the cost is for the sighting unless Larry you have that offhand well,.

E

I would just add that this also involves some program, I mean with our the sub of an architect that working with the school district and with this group. So we know what so we know what they need. So we can't say something until we know what they need. So there's a lot of effort put into programming and and that's going on too, because they're uh treatment, friendship, Freeman of Burlington architectural firm, is a sub to McFarland Johnson, working also with the school district on on the need in the programming.

E

So there's a lot of that going on too and.

D

And that need is, is changing and and being discussed throughout this process, so having a a consultant with the airport to help refine some of these issues and refine some of these conversations to to help the airport better understand what the school district's needs are is really really important for us right now and.

E

Typically, if you want to talk engineering throughout a project like this, it's the total would be 25 I mean if you're working for a GSA or something like that they look at 45. So typically the it's about a 25 construction costs and we're way below that here.

E

B

Okay, the um so part of this sighting is also Consulting with Architects that could get it into the scope, because if you don't know what the project is, you can't cite a project if you don't know how big it is or what you're really looking for for needs, you can't figure out how much of the airport uh property you want to be looking for, am I getting.

D

That right, a hundred percent correct, that's exactly right! We need we as an airport, need to understand what the school district's needs and requirements are as part of this. This building and that's part of the scope of work and.

B

With this money, that's it even though it's slated as an aviation Grant, it doesn't matter if they're slipping in the other ideas of the Auto Tech and all that.

D

Unfortunately, we're not we're not involved with that particular Grant. In fact, we don't have a copy of the the grant itself. The 10 million dollar Grant.

B

You give yours yours.

D

Our ours is uh right. Now ours is cash. This is not a reimbursement Grant. This is Cash in our bank account right now uh that does not have any Grant requirements or Grant ties, uh except that it must be used uh for that High School, uh Aviation technical program we'd have to go back to our Congressional Delegation to make sure if, if the scope does diverge from that a little bit uh to make sure that we can use it in that way,.

F

Gotcha, okay, but.

D

We don't we don't as the airport that I am aware of, we do not have any signed grants or signed restrictions on this uh 678 thousand dollars correct.

B

Yeah cool: is there a time frame.

D

uh There is our our goal well, a couple of time frames, but the the ultimate goal is to complete everything uh from citing design bidding construction and having students move in by um by summer or or after summer of 2025.

D

That's the school district's goals, uh so we're kind of backtracking on that and putting that as part of this initial scope, we don't see that this McFarland Johnson's contract is going to go that far, because eventually this will roll right into just the school district, finishing up their design and, of course, construction for our our goals and our timeline for McFarland Johnson. It really is right.

D

Right now we have weekly meetings with the school district Engineers from your French Freeman McFarland, all all of these groups of people to make sure that we're moving forward uh very quickly so that uh the school district can do what they need to do. There's there's larger conversations with this School District that this is a piece of the puzzle for them, such as the large bond that they're looking for, and some of the savings that come out of the technical program being cited at the uh at the Burlington Airport.

D

um So McFarland Johnson we've asked to move as quickly as possible to get an appropriate site at the airport, so we can move right into design work.

E

And also the permitting is going to take time. So that's all comes into play to meet 2025, which is significant sure.

F

Yeah, thank you.

C

Nick, you mentioned the time situation with the bound coming up. You may not be able to answer this, uh but I'm curious that if we move forward on this and the city council does likewise, would there be an opportunity for the school district or the airport or the city or someone to make that announcement before the vote in about a month.

D

I I really hope so I think that would be really important. There has been some preliminary public um uh uh media attention on this specific from the school district's point of view to to cite this at the airport and some of the savings that come from it or the reduction in how much their bond needs to be. I, don't know the specifics um and if it would help, maybe we can get uh superintendent Tom Flanagan to come in to give a broader overview of the the tech center program and the tech center director as well.

D

um uh But I think that would be really important, though uh in front of the uh vote.

A

Any further discussion from commissioners.

D

I'll just add real, quick to Greg's uh comment there Tim, if that's all right sure absolutely um uh the school district does have required reporting to the Burlington City Council as well. So there is a a tremendous amount of communication about the bond about the overall project at the at the school district which I'm I'm not able to speak to because I don't know, uh as well as to the Technical Center Program here at the airport. So there is there's an extensive amount of communication at that level uh to Burlington City Council as well.

A

Okay, uh I just had one one question.

E

First well.

A

First of an observation that I I, it's always great when you look under a rock from 10 years ago and find this pile of money. So that's great work by you and Marie to to find that that's still out there.

A

um My questions on that related to was there any impending expiration date on those funds, and would there have been an alternate I know it has to be used for technical Aviation, but would there have been an alternate potential alternate use for those funds other than this sighting project, foreign.

D

D

um Projects for this funding, uh there were no alternate progress projects for this funding, so this was always set aside for this particular um next steps. We, you know over the years. We didn't know that this particular earmark or congressionally directed spending was coming our way coming to the school district to develop the program. So it's nice that we're actually able to move this forward uh well, I, wouldn't call it a requirement uh through our audit.

D

There certainly has been a lot of attention on these funds over the years uh in making sure that we do use those funds and and Marie. Maybe you can explain that a little bit better sure.

G

So we hold this out on our out of statement, it's restricted and um we have an interferred Revenue, but it's restricted and we we have to answer the Auditors every year on what our plan is to do with this money. So every year that I been here, we've had discussions. There have been attempts over the years. This money can only be used like for grade 12 and earlier it can't be used for secondary education or other training programs that would be like secondary or you know, older older uh audience.

G

So this has been very restricted in terms of that, so we have been hopeful over the years that there would be some way to benefit this community, this subgroup of people that the money was intended to help so having this funding come through this 10 million dollar Grant is a breath of fresh air and we're excited because it's here it's at the airport, where it ought to be, and we're able to to take this money that we've been monitoring and restricting all these years to use it in that way.

G

So I hope that next time you look at the audit report. You'll be like it's here.

A

Direct has gone down. That's always a good thing, all right, Commissioners, all those in favor of recommending approval, please signify by saying aye aye. All right are you opposed that carries unanimously. Our last and final action item is is relates to the north Concourse replacement. This is for con to recommend approval of the contract with Jacob Engineering Group for the north Concourse replacement project and the related budget amendment. Do we hear a motion to that effect?

A

Well, that's moved by Eric. Is there a second second by.

F

A

Discussion Nick.

D

Another truly exciting project on the horizon. um This is not to be confused with the with the project that you approved uh the first one, the first item here. uh This is not renovating the existing Concourse. This is, in fact, a replacement of a very specific wing of the north Concourse, specifically Gates three four five and six.

D

uh This is an extension of the north Concourse building this this building further north or towards the Air Traffic Control building, essentially Envision the terminal integration project or what we're opening next week this week and and into next week again up on the North side to expand opportunities, expand whole room space uh to right size, our terminal, making sure that there's an appropriate number of seating at each particular gate uh to make sure in maybe the most important one.

D

For me and my mind, um is the safety of aircraft coming in and out of that terminal, the ability for any size aircraft, whether we're talking about small or the largest aircraft, that we've seen especially over this last summer to park at these at these gate positions and all be accommodated by new jet Bridges uh working with the Senator's office over over this last year, were able to finally confirm that there is a 35 million dollar written line or congressionally directed spending bill being proposed at legislation for the Burlington International build this area.

D

We need to get ahead of that bill just slightly. That does mean there's a little bit of risk and that's why this is a very small, relatively small contract. On the grand scheme of things you just heard, Larry say that most of the contracts that we deal with uh can be between 10 and 25 percent engineering costs for the total part of uh 10 to 25 percent of engine of costs of engineering towards Coons.

D

Oh my gosh, ten percent of the engineering towards the the project of a 35 million dollar project that that's not sustainable for us to move forward with right now. That's that's too much of a funding, but at least if we keep to around that 300 000 Mark, to move our engineer into the design phase, making sure that next year, when this congressionally directed spending Bill, most likely in in the January time frame, gets passed, we're ahead of the game. We can continue to work with the FAA to apply for the grant.

D

That would allow us to finish finish. The total project part of this 300 000 is also going to determine uh how we bid this out. Are we going to continue moving this forward into full design uh using local costs right off the bat, or are we going to wait and do something a little bit different, similar to what we did to terminal integration project and bid this out uh slightly different? So we don't have to fully design it.

D

Yet there's Pro pros and cons to all this these scenarios and that that really is part of the scope and part of our work over the next several months to determine what we do. Next, as the risk of this project decreases, meaning it's closer and closer to passing at the at the federal legislation.

D

um uh It it really is an exciting project, and, and probably once in a lifetime for us to actually get this amount of funding specific to a terminal project. It is very unheard of for small hub airport to receive terminal funds without either a supplement Grant such as the terminal integration project again outside of normal funding of the FAA or a congressionally directed spending bill, so we're very lucky to to even be considered for this particular project, and we want to make sure that we're uh we're prepared to build it uh when the time comes.

D

It'll take a few years before it actually shovels in the ground. Lots of work to perform. But at this point in time, with a small contract, we're able to start that site work start the design work, get get ideas flowing of exactly how we want to build this building out, making sure that it's as eligible as possible.

D

um uh This project all not only includes the relocation of the north Concourse. This does also replace all of our jetbridge, uh all of our eligible jet bridges that are at the airport, which are aged and, and most of them are past the useful life.

D

It also includes additional funding if there's any remaining left over to renovate the entire second floor of our existing Concourse, creating a linear longer um in an open uh terminal building to allow additional aircraft to come in, and uh what I'm talking about here is: is removing this yellow piece off to the right here and uh building this pink piece towards the Air Traffic Control building the dark orange piece is the terminal terminal integration project opening next week and then the the South, yellow and pink areas are future projects that uh that uh we're not quite there yet.

D

But it's that's the overall intention on our master plan uh to do this and and there's a nice uh 3D visual drawing from both sides.

E

We are competing for the South End project for for that, though, too, so great.

D

So you'll you'll you'll actually see that come back to you under a different, different Grant or sorry a different uh contract uh in the future. As we as we sort some of these bigger things out.

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Thank you, Nick discussion from commissioners.

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I said, one observation on the uh the executive summary was a little unclear as to whether or not this contract is for just Demolition and removal, or if it's for demolition, removal and planning the future. So can you just clarify that look.

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Is it is for design permitting and Engineering planning for demolition of that existing Concourse? We will not get to bidding with this amount of money and, as we progress over the next few months, we won't spend all this money, as Nick said, to ensure we feel more comfortable that um you know, is it we're going to get the the larger funds so.

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I I don't know if this pertains to the South uh future build out Tim, but this is this only pertains to the north project. No.

A

I know it always say it's the north, but in the executive summary it says this project consists of design and permitting for Demolition and removal of the existing outdated, North Concourse.

A

It doesn't talk about whether or not this encompasses the future planning for the for the new for the new Concourse to be built that that pink box that was shown on the on the plan.

E

My apology skin, but if you go to the second paragraph I guess I probably should have moved that up. It's in the second paragraph, okay, yeah I should have I should have did that in there. Sorry. So.

A

So it doesn't it in corpuses, both the removal of that yellow area and the construction of the pink hair. It does. Okay, great foreign.

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Any further discussion from commissioners hearing down all those in favor, please signify by saying aye aye any opposed that carries unanimously. uh Next is item five adjournment. Do I, hear a motion to adjourn so moved moved by Helen. Do I hear a second, oh yeah. Second, by Eric, all those in favor of adjournment. Please signify miss a guy hi. Any opposed carries unanimously. We are adjourned.

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Thank you. Everyone.

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You everyone good.

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Making it work yeah.