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Burlington City Council 11/7 Agenda:
00:00:00 Agenda
00:00:53 Work Session: Redistricting
01:24:16 Communication: Mental Health Summit Synopsis/Report
01:50:36 North Winooski Avenue Parking Plan Update
02:00:20 Public Forum
02:14:57 Public Hearing: General Obligation Bonds for New Schools
02:19:34 Climate Emergency Reports
02:23:55 Consent Agenda
02:24:53 City Council with Mayor Presiding
02:31:30 Board of Civil Authority
02:33:07 Comm: Appointment of Assistant City Attorney
02:38:06 Comm: Appointment of REIB Director
02:46:39 Ordinance: Min/Max Parking Requirements, Transportation Demand
03:15:04 Resolution: Prevention of Gun Violence
03:28:10 Hearing: Orlando's Outdoor Entertainment Permit
04:24:42 Ordinance: Solid Waste/Recycling Requirements
04:32:27 Committee Reports
04:39:14 City Council - General Affairs
04:39:28 City Council President Updates
04:40:33 Mayor - General Affairs
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A
A
A
By
councilor
McGee
is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
the
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
aye
any
opposed,
please
say
no,
and
that
means
we
have
an
agenda.
So
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
for
the
second
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
2.0,
which
is
a
work
session
on
redistricting
for
those
who
are
watching
online,
you
can
stay
on
the
same
Zoom
link,
we're
going
to
move
our
meeting
from
conchoice
to
go
downstairs
to
the
butcher
conference
room
and
we
have
with
us
downstairs.
A
Nancy
Stetson
is
already
downstairs
and
we
have
the
our
planning
director
Megan
Tuttle,
who
is
online
with
us
this
evening
and
we
according
to
our
agenda,
we'll
reconvene
the
council
meeting
after
the
work
session,
or
we
will
continue
the
meeting
after
the
work
session
at
approximately
6
30..
So
take
us
a
couple
of
minutes
to
get
downstairs.
Councilor
Freeman
is
joining
us
online.
A
It'll.
Take
us
a
couple
of
minutes
to
get
ourselves
downstairs,
but
we
will
join
you
there
thanks.
Thank
you.
Did
you
want
to?
Did
the
two
of
you
want
to
sort
of
give
us
an
sort
of
an
overview
of
what
we
have
the
maps
that
we
have,
and
you
know
we
can
go
from
there
and
Ali
is
just
coming
in
Ali.
We
have
not
even
started
getting
going.
D
E
Yes,
president
Paul,
we
were
thinking
that
we
could
very
briefly
just
share
an
overview
to
kind
of
where
we
left
off
from
the
last
work
session
and
what
has
been
provided
on
board
docs
for
you
and
then
give
you
all
the
time
to
ask
us
questions.
I
do
have
the
maps
up
and
I'm
happy
to
share
my
screen
and
use
that
to
zoom
in
and
out
on
different
options.
If
it's
helpful
in
the
discussion,
so
we
don't
have
any
formal
slides,
but
just
maybe
a
few
comments
for
you
to
start
off.
F
E
One
of
the
considerations
that
we
talked
about
at
the
end
of
the
last
work
session
was
the
kind
of
role
of
the
on-campus
populations
and
really
the
outsize
role
that
small
portions
of
those
campuses
could
play
in
forming
the
boundaries
of
the
wards
that
include
them.
So
these
four
map
iterations
provide
you
four
different
kind
of
options
for
how
we
think
about
approaching
the
on-campus
student
population,
the
memo
that
was
posted
for
you,
and
we
can
talk
about
each
one
of
these.
E
These
are
typically
just
minor
iterations
of
one
another
things,
questions
that
we've
had
or
opportunities
that
we've
seen
for
how
the
boundaries
can
be
nuanced,
but
there's
just
the
four
basic
concepts
for
your
consideration
and
I
think
from
each
of
these
Concepts.
If
there's
one
that
is
supported,
we
can
talk
about
any
nuances
to
that
concept.
That
may
be
possible
from
that.
E
A
So
maybe
you
could
just
give
us
a
brief
overview
either.
Well,
no
one
who
knows
these
Maps,
like
you
do.
If
there's
you
know
just
sort
of
a
you
know:
you've
got
the
well
at
first
before
we
had
all
these
communications,
and
just
so
everyone
knows
there
was
a.
As
we
all
know,
there
were
a
number
of
people
who
communicated
with
us
by
email
and
I
reached
out
to
each
one
of
them
asking
if
they
wanted
their
comments
posted
for
public
record.
A
H
So
the
first
set
of
maps
are
called
Ward
8
to
Central
Hill,
which
just
means
sort
of
centered
on
that
fuel
Street
area
and
in
both
of
those
Maps
well
in
one
of
those
Maps
where
it
takes
the
entire
DDF
athletic
campus
and
then
the
other
Ward
one
takes
some
of
athletic
campus
and
Ward.
8
takes
the
rest
in
the
maps
called
Ward,
8
North
Hill
coordinates
not
take
any
athletic
campus
and
it
shifts
North
to
the
Henry
Loomis
area.
H
E
Some
of
them
are
much
closer
to
the
overall
10
allowable
deviation.
Some
of
them
are
closer
to
nine,
or
maybe
even
a
little
under
nine
I
think,
but
they
all
have
different
approaches
in
terms
of
the
percent
of
the
population
in
wards
that
our
on-campus
students
so
Nancy,
could
you
just
remind
us
thinking
about
kind
of
balance
and
which
of
these
map
options
helps
keep
the
on-campus
population
in
each
Ward,
less
than
50
percent.
H
H
And
we
did
do
some
work
over
the
weekend
to
get
better
accounts
for
Champlain
and
so
I
just
hope
in
the
past
hour
added
another
document
that
has
population
totals,
but
that's
the
only
difference
between
them.
It
just
it
adds
in
this
new
map
and
it
adjust
the
on-campus
percentage
very
slightly
based
on
those
counts.
A
A
So
I'll
I
will.
This
is
a
work
session,
so
I'll
I'll
say
something
I.
Think
the
I
think
the
the
goal
of
the
Central
Hill
Maps
was
a
was
a
a
a
a
laudable
one.
It
was
to
try
to
make
it
so
that
we
didn't
not
have
an
overwhelming
number
of
you
know
on-campus
and,
as
we
know,
you
know
fairly
fairly
inaccessible
student
population
in
any
one
Ward
and
that
seemed
I.
A
And
others
have
said
this:
it
sort
of
replicates
what
we
were
trying
to
get
away
from,
which
is
the
I.
Don't
know
I
I,
don't
call
it
the
salamander
look,
but
because
this
one
doesn't
have
as
much
of
a
tail,
but
it
doesn't
it.
It
doesn't
have
that
contiguousness,
walk
type,
look
and
you
know,
and
so
for
that
reason
personally,
I
would
be
fine.
J
D
K
K
Contaminated
with
word
three
so
for
their
own
right
now,
so
I
actually
lean
towards
these
and
unfortunately
so.
Ryan
is
not
here
to
represent
the
folks
in
Ward
one,
but
this
map
does
keep
places
like
Brooks,
Ave
and
Loomis
and
Henry
Street
area
part
of
board.
One
and
I
since
I've
been
involved
in
the
Burlington
politics
at
this
level.
In
the
the
mid-1980s.
D
H
B
B
And
well,
we
have
it.
We
agreed
to
eight
Wards,
we've
all
send
more
Awards,
so
I
think
we
have
to
stop
thinking
so
much
about
seven
years,
like
the
conversation
about.
What's
it
more
than
one
ham
or
Ward
six
have
when
we
were
seven
Lords,
we
have
eight
more.
It's
a
Maxis
changes,
the
neighborhood
configuration.
It
is
unfortunate
that
we
have
to
call
it
Ward
8,
because
we
didn't
have
a
great
success
with
reporting
that
we
created
last
time
but
God.
So
I
just
want
us
to
keep
focusing
on.
B
E
A
A
Sure
exactly
what
happened!
You
know
Soraya
sent
me
an
email
and
said
that
it
sold
us
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago
that
she
would
be
available
from
five
to
six
ten.
So
that's
why
we're
having
the
work
session
now,
not
really
sure?
Quite
what
happened?
There
must
have
been
a
change
and
I
feel
badly
that
you
know
someone
who's
not
here
represents
work,
one.
A
A
A
They
came
to
North
Hill
that
they
were
okay
with
any
War
being
in
a
ward
provided
that
they
were
in
the
same
word,
and
that
was
like
what
I
thought,
because
there
was
at
one
point,
there
was
a
difference
and
I
think
those
a
lot
of
these
were
attempted
to
make
sure
that
the
North
Hill
section
was
together,
even
if
they
were
in
the
new
Ward.
Eight
like
that
one.
So
I,
don't
know.
A
J
D
Know
telling
Sarah
and
I
and
Ali
how
the
new
number
then
should
be
divided
up,
I
I
sort
of
defer
to
others
on.
You
know
these
these
neighborhood
boundaries
around
the
board,
one
and
ward,
two,
and
not
knowing
as
much
as
the
counselors
to
represent
those
districts.
That
can't
really
say
whether
or
not
Distributing
objection
about
occurred
from
counselor
of
government
have
said
that
this
wouldn't
be.
D
But
besides
that
I,
like
everything
else
about
it,
the
district
has
been
one
of
these
things,
where
I
would
fix
one
thing
to
create
problems
elsewhere.
This
is
this
is
the
the
or
that
we
create
features
elsewhere,
and
it
may
or
may
not
be
problems,
and
this
is
one
of
the
features
with
the
downtown
I
do
like
in
principle
understood.
K
D
G
L
L
A
D
A
H
H
Sure
yeah,
so
they
they
actually,
they
do
have
a
slightly
different
configuration
of
the
athletic
campus.
One
takes
one
has
four
that
would
be
to
double
check.
They
take
a
slightly
different
combination
of
dorms,
so
in
version
one
board
one
has
University
Heights
instead
of
Paris
Phyllis
and
version
two,
it
gets
the
reverse
so
against
Eric's
Millis,
but
not
University.
Difference
between
those
two
configurations
is
about
200
students.
H
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
huge
difference.
It
does
change
the
percent
on
campus
for
Ward
one,
but
only
slightly
only
by
two
percent.
So
it's
right
around
50
for
both
versions
on
Ward
one
and
then
it's
a
bit
higher
for
Ward
6
for
both
of
these
versions,
because
board
six
gets
that
one
extra
door
in
the
athletic
campus
and
then
it's
also
gets
the
Champlain
College
area
and.
D
D
D
D
K
So
put
the
cemetery
back
into
Ward,
one
and
I
actually
don't
believe
that
across
the
street
now
there's
like
those
buildings
are
showing
or
Charlemagne's
that
whole
area
there
is
one
person
who
lives
on
interval.
One
house
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
in
the
house,
I,
don't
think
they're
worth
it
too,
and
they
are
in
order.
So.
K
K
B
K
E
D
D
E
D
D
K
P
K
G
K
H
H
E
M
A
A
If
you
are
a
student
who
lives
on
one
part
of
a
campus
you're,
not
really
it's
not
it's
maybe
easier
to
to
have
that
level
of
accessibility.
That
certainly
is
not
a
given
Ward.
One
in
this
would
be
50
percent
word,
six
would
be
48
or
49,
and
board
eight
would
be
20,
which
still
is
a
far
cry
from
the
75
to
70
percent.
A
A
That
would
then
in
this
map,
be
in
ward,
3
would
be
in
a
would
go
from
being
in
a
an
award
that
is
75
on
campus
to
about
five
percent
and
would
be
in
you
know,
to
some
degree,
a
downtown
area
which
I
thought
initially.
That
was
what
people
really
wanted.
They
wanted
to
be
in
a
downtown
area.
They
felt
that
their
priorities.
R
G
A
D
P
A
H
Yeah,
so
so,
and
on
this
map
that
block
next
to
admins
is
split.
So
if
you
zoom
in
there,
that
block
is
a
fairly
large
block,
there's
88
residents
on
the
Edmond
side
and
then
346
on
the
sort
of
Champlain
side
it's
already
split
into,
and
so
this
map
splits
the
Champlain
side.
So
it
just
includes
one
dorm
and
moves
that
into
word
eight
and
then
the
block
above
it
is
it's
a
fairly
large
Block.
D
H
B
D
H
D
A
D
A
A
L
So
I
I've
liked
a
lot
of
maps
before
we've
gotten
to
this
point
here,
and
you
know
with
the
versions
that
we
have
still
in
front
of
us
personally.
I've
always
liked
a
map
closer
to
one
of
the
one
of
the
central
Hill
Maps
more.
You
know
and
I've
said
that
in
the
working
group
as
well-
and
you
know,
I
think
that
there's
a
way
to
make
the
central
Hill
Maps
look
a
little
less
salamander-e.
You
know
like
if
you
were
to
Nancy.
If
you
went
to
version
one
version
two
here,
you.
L
There's
a
way
that
you
could
give
the
entire
athletic
campus
toward
a
the
living
and
learning
community,
which
is
in
Ward
one
right
now,
114
students.
So
you
can
put
that
into
Ward
a
and
extend
the
ward
8
boundary
all
the
way
over
to
East
Avenue.
It
would
grab
some
of
the
houses
that
are
on
the
west
side
of
East
Avenue,
but
I.
Don't
think,
there's
that
many
Residential
Properties
on
the
west
side
of
East
Avenue.
L
Of
the
Western
Northern
boundaries
of
board
eight
there
to
even
out
the
514
that
are
coming
out
of
the
living
and
learning
community,
so
that
to
me
is
a
map
that
I've
always
been
interested
in.
But
what
I've
sort
of
said
all
along
right
is
that
the
direction
that
we
head
in,
whether
it
be
North,
Hill
or
Central
Hill,
is
really
a
question
over
the
extent
to
which
we
are
willing
to
continue
to
perpetuate
the
issue
that
we've
identified
as
being
the
ward
a
issue.
L
There's
there's
still
going
to
be
an
issue
that
we've
heard
from
a
number
of
word
a
non-student,
not
on
campus
student
residents,
who
are
concerned
about
that
issue.
So
you
know
I
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
any
way,
we
can
proceed
with
a
central
Hill
map
that
doesn't
in
some
way
perpetuate
the
issue
that
we
identified
as
being
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
fix
when
we
started
this
process,
it.
Q
L
It
somewhat,
you
know,
it
goes
from
more
than
70
on-campus
students
to
closer
to
50
on
campus
students,
but
it
still
is
an
issue.
If
that
is
the
issue,
if
still
sort
of
fixing
that
ornate
issue
is
still
our
top
priority,
then
I
do
think
we
need
to
focus
on
the
North,
Hill
Maps
and
any
one
of
the
versions
that
are
out
there,
because,
as
Sarah
has
pointed
out
appropriately
so
right
I
mean
that's
really
the
only
other
way.
We
do
this
right,
I
mean
either
we
either.
D
L
A
A
A
A
G
A
A
D
D
H
A
A
D
P
D
A
D
I
I
don't
particularly
like
if
it's
a
choice
between
the
the
Central
and
the
north,
now
I
like
the
North
Hills
better,
they
have
more
of
a
sense
of
place
to
them
than
Central.
Perhaps
sort
of
sort
of
behind
or
certain
diagonals
in
town
continues
so
of
the
options
and
we're
talking
between
Central
and
learning
programs
so
like.
If
you
want
to
tell
concept
matter,
I
like
the
Women's
Center,
who
are
rectangular
and
the
last
one,
but
I
understand
also
that
we're
trying
to
a
portion
students.
L
I
think
I
need
to
express
some
level
of
discomfortability
taking
Final
Approach
to
that,
though,
because
the
two
awards
that
are
most
heavily
impacted
by
that
Awards
one
and
Wards
a
and
as
a
group
right
now
discussing
this,
we
have
zero
representation
for
either
one
of
those
boards,
because
two
of
the
representatives
have
resigned,
and
one
of
them,
unfortunately,
is
not
even
unable
to
be
here
right
now.
So
I
don't
know.
D
L
Is
I
mean
you've
been
on
the
working
group
here
and
I
found
it
each
time
focused
on
a
particular
map,
and
we
we
didn't
suddenly
hear
from
the
folks
who
are
most
directly
impacted
by
it
right.
So
I
think
that
we've
heard
from
a
number
of
the
folks
who
are
who've
been
upset
with
living
or
at
any
issue
for
some
time,
because
they've
seen
a
number
of
maps
that
have
been
posted.
That
would,
as
I
put
in
continue
to
perpetuate
that
issue.
L
I
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I,
think
we
heard
a
little
bit
from
counselor
Hightower
over
perspective,
the
maps
that
would
cut
out
the
North
Hill
section.
From
my
perspective,
I
I
agree
with
you
mayor
that
you
know
I
think
those
Maps
make
sense.
We
haven't
talked
about
it
much,
but
because
we
decided
to
focus
on
eight
more
and
four
District
map.
I
think
that
one
of
the
ways
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
would
be
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
have
an
East
District.
L
That
is
warrants
one
and
more
Escape
such
that
the
North
Hill
would
be,
as
Council
Burton
has
pointed
out
to
Historic
neighborhood
support.
One
word:
it
would
still
be
represented
by
an
East
District
councilor
that
doesn't
currently
represent
that
neighborhood
with
the
existing
Wards
one
and
more
Tech
so
I.
Obviously,
we
can't
wait
for
this
veteran
election
or
certainly
not
until
next
time
any
day,
then
we'll
go
to
one
main
scene,
but
I
am
anticipating
that
we're
going
to
hear
from
some
folks
in
the
North
Hill
area
in
particular.
K
D
G
D
H
K
Given
for
developments
here,
it
may
be
that
it
would
be
more
favored
than
than
this
one
too
yeah
in
that,
regarding
so
I
I
mean
I
I,
just
say
that
you
know
at
this
point
if
you
know
I,
this
works
okay
for
the
old
North
End,
in
my
mind,
as
we're
two
in
particular.
So
you
know
I
I
get
enough
comments
for
more
than
one
people
to
to
feel
some
obligation
to
see
about
making
some
adjustments
or
to
see.
If
there
are
adjustments
that
can
be
made
within.
B
B
K
But
you
got
that
curve
out
there
on
North
Prospect
Street
right
there.
What
is
that
see?
The
invitation
there
I
mean
that
that
that's
not
inconsistent
with
what
you're
saying,
if
that,
if,
if
the
numbers
again-
and
this
is
all
questions
of
numbers
so
where
you've
got
that
little
indentation-
that
you're
engaged
going
into
word
one,
in
fact,
if
the
numbers
can
be
made
to
bring
more
of
those
people
back
into
word,
one
I
don't
know
whether
and
I'm
not
representing
them,
but.
B
K
D
I
A
That's
really
the
I
think
that's
really
the
Crux
of
that,
and
also
whether
you
know
none
of
these
North
Hill
Maps
keeps
the
North
Hill
in
Ward
one
as
right
now
as
of
right
now,
that's
sort
of
why
they're
called
the
north
I
guess
it's
morning
to
North
Hill.
That's
why
they're
called
that
the
question
is
I
mean
my
understanding
and
I.
Maybe
I'm
wrong
is
that
you
know
it's
right.
It's
not
here
is
that
the
impression
I
got
was
that
when
she
went
to
the
mpa
that.
A
If
we
went
with
eight
words,
if
we
went
with
seven
words
and
clearly
that
we
were
a
good
state,
but
if
it
doesn't,
if
we
go
to
Awards,
which
we
all
agreed
on
with
some
I
mean
something
has
to
give
in
the
ward
one
map,
how
many?
How
many
have
they
is
it
900
that
they've
seen
today
or
try
to
remember
now.
A
L
I
would
be
prepared
to
start
to
work
around
the
edges
with
respect
to
the
North
Hill
map.
I
just
think
again,
it's
important
for
us
to
sort
of
go
back
to
some
of
the
other
concerns
that
have
been
stated
here,
though,
which
is
that
I'm,
mindful
of
the
fact
that
in
Ward
six
right
now
the
on-campus
student
population
is
14.
That's
what
it
is
right
now
in
one
cents
with
North
Hill
version,
one
and
North
Hill
version
two
both
of
those
Maps
move,
the
on-campus
student
population.
L
L
L
Know
I'm
still
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
huge
shift
in
on
campus
student
population
award:
six
ignore
Hill
versions,
one
and
two
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
any
difference
around
the
edges
there
that
could
work
I
think
we
have
a
version.
That
somewhat
does
that
in
the
in
the
last
version,
and
there
were
a
made
some
champagne
but
I,
don't
know
because
and
it'll
work
six
Representatives,
because
we're
in
a
working
session,
Council
call
I.
A
Well,
I
mean
I,
think
that
I
mean
for
me
the
you
know
we
used
to
have
a
chief
administrative
officer.
It
was
very
big
on
things
being
fair,
factual
and
forward
and
I
think
this,
given
the
fact
that
you
know
there
are,
there
are
going
to
be
changes
in
population
all
over
the
city.
I
think
this
is
a
little
bit
more
forward
and
and
I
think
it's
more
fair.
A
You
know,
I
think
that
the
the
challenge
that
any
board
is
going
to
have
when
they
get
to
the
point
where
they're
61
62
on
campus
is
a
challenge.
You
know
you
once
you
go
over
50
I
think
there
are
challenges
with
the
polling
places
and
just
engagement
in
that
way
and
and
the
ability
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
constituents
who
are
I
think
we've
all
agreed
are
inaccessible
to
anyone
other
than
a
student.
So
I
think
that
is
a
challenge
that
and
a
responsibility
that
we
have.
G
A
H
S
A
H
A
A
D
A
A
A
D
D
K
D
D
A
All
right
well,
we'll
we'll
try
to
see
if
there
are
other
iterations
that
we
could
possibly
come
up
with
for
the
North
Hill
approach.
Maybe
you
know
maybe
doing
something
with
central
campus.
That's
even
you
know.
We've
talked
about
splitting
athletic,
although
this
doesn't,
but
we've
talked
about
that
in
the
past.
Maybe
there
are
other
things
that
we
can
do.
A
Did
reminds
me
2013
resolution
for
redistricting
not
easy
to
find
they're
all
in
boxes,
but
she
did
find
it
and
it's
a
fairly
simple
resolution.
So
in
the
interest
of
being
able
to
move
this
to
the
12th,
we
really
need
to
come
up
with
a
amen
by
the
21st,
and
hopefully
we
can
all
be
here
so
that
we
can
have
a
solar
representation,
as
we
can.
D
A
D
B
D
T
T
A
B
B
B
T
A
A
Toys
and
we're
going
to
continue
with
our
agenda.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
item
3.0,
which
are
two
Communications.
The
first
is
3.01,
which
is
a
mental
health,
Summit
synopsis
and
report,
and
for
this
item
I
know
we
have
Lacey
Smith
with
us.
The
community
outreach
supervisor
for
BPD
and
I'm,
not
sure.
If
there
are
others,
we
did
have
a
couple
of
others
who
were
either
maybe
joining
us
on
Zoom
or
are
just
not
here,
and
we
have
Lacey
all
to
ourselves.
A
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
If
you
want
to
come
right
up
here,
we've
been
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
you
about
the
summit
that
was
held
in
September
and
we've
allotted
20
minutes
for
this
item.
So
if
you
could
maybe
keep
your
comments
to
about
10
minutes
and
then
we'll
have
plenty
of
time
for
questions
from
the
council
and
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
waiting
for
us.
V
So
back
in
I
want
to
say
it
was
April
or
May
myself,
Scott
pavic,
who
came
so
he
was
a
replacement
for
Marielle.
So
basically,
the
public
analyst
for
the
city,
myself
and
Scott
barbreco
from
the
United
Way
started
to
work
on
the
mental
health
Summit,
which
was
born
out
of
the
resolution
from
the
police
commission
back
in
October
of
2021..
V
V
What
do
they
think
the
city's
role
is,
and
that
was
really
kind
of
where
we
started
from
so
the
really
the
the
role
of
what
the
city
is
and
and
contributing
to
the
improving
the
effectiveness
of
the
mental
health
system,
the
top
challenges
and
opportunities,
and
how
can
the
city
help
and
what
are
the
first
steps
to
take
action
on
these
things?
So
we
split
it
out
into
two
days
really
day.
One
was
a
listening
day
day.
V
Two
was
really
a
conversation
with
all
of
the
folks
with
breakout
groups,
so
the
document
that
I
shared
originally
was
really
just
the
I
just
kind
of
convened
all
of
the
working
doc.
The
working
document
that
was
used
on
day
two.
This
was
just
a
synopsis
and
just
basically
cut
it
and
pasted
and
put
it
into
order
so
that
in
itself
that's
the
very
fast
version
of
this
document.
V
The
key
takeaways
for
I
think
as
a
whole
was
really
just.
We
all
know
that
there
are
gaps.
We
all
see
the
gaps
that
exist
just
by
living
in
our
day-to-day,
but
I,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
understanding
around
what
is
going
on
to
try
to
fix
those
gaps,
who's
doing
what
where
when
and
it
is
becomes
even
greater,
because
you
can
think
about
the
mental
health
system
in
both
the
micro
way
and
a
macro
way
so
there's
the
estate
and
how
the
state
affects
our
local
system
and
then
there's
our
local
system.
V
So
we
have
the
homeless
violence
for
Trenton
for
Chittenden
County
and
they
really
kind
of
look
at
the
system
related
to
houselessness,
and
then
we
have
comstat
where
we're
really
kind
of
really
looking
at
substance
use
on
a
both
micro
and
macro
level
and
the
system
that
goes
along
with
that
there
doesn't.
There
is
a
state.
V
V
There's
also
a
need
for
advocacy
and
just
kind
of
being
able
to
convene.
We
have
a
table
where
these
system
conversations
are
happening
and
that
doesn't
exist
and
that
feels
like
a
massive
Gap,
so
I
think
I
will
leave
it
I.
Don't
that,
though,
that
to
me
and
from
the
key
takeaways
that
I
just
read
off
the
top
of
the
page,
that's
really
the
the
meat
of
it.
From
my
perspective.
S
S
The
the
thing
that
was
mentioned
repeatedly
was
the
increasing
danger
in
their
jobs
and
I
guess
I
have
my
I
think
we're
all
feeling
that
and
it's
I
have
my
suspicions
about
what's
causing
that.
But
I
wondered
if
you
could
speak
any
more
to
that
that
there's
increasing
violence
and
risk
to
providers
that
they
are
seeing
now
that
they
didn't
used
to
see
and
what
is
driving.
That.
V
There
is
I
think
that
there's
always
going
to
be
a
bit
of
tension
when
you're,
when
in
fear
that
comes
with
the
idea
of
replacing
civilians
replacing
officers
with
civilians,
because
it's
really
in
our
world
things
aren't
really
black
and
white
they're,
exceptionally
gray,
and
we're
also
just
going
on
like
a
line
or
two
of
information.
When
a
call
comes
in
and
so
I
think
from
first
Call's
perspective.
They
definitely
are
struggling
in
that
they
often,
as
did
Street
Outreach.
V
We
don't
have
the
ability
right
now
to
co-deploy
so
like
first
call
would
go
out
and
call
for
an
officer
to
stand
by
and
right
now,
there's
times
where,
like
there's
no
officer
to
stand
by.
So
the
emergency
evaluation
is
just
going
to
sit
and
wait
on
the
board
and
first
call
won't
go
out
until
there
is
somebody
available.
So
there
is
a
delay
in
kind
of
triaging,
the
assistance
to
folks
that
are
at
like
that
are
potentially
in
the
highest
level
of
Crisis.
V
Simply
because
there
just
isn't.
We
don't
have
the
Personnel
to
be
able
and
with
the
information
that
we
have
up
front,
if
it's
just
to
do
an
emergency
evaluation,
it's
not
that
in
itself
doesn't
necessarily
a
safety
risk
and
if
there
isn't
any
additional
information
that
lends
to
there
being
a
safety
risk,
it
really
is
just
going
to
stay
as
a
priority
too,
and
then
it's
just
going
to
be
dependent
upon
availability
unless
something
kicks
it
up
to
a
priority,
one
which
would
then
generate
a
response.
V
I
think
we're
collectively,
as
a
community
we're
coming
out
of
a
trauma.
We
just
are
coming
out
of
something
that
shifted
our
perspectives
and
our
realities
greatly
with
the
pandemic,
and
it
really
magnified
I
think
all
of
the
cracks-
and
you
know
it
cracks
in
some
places.
Massive
gaps
in
other
places
within
all
of
our
systems,
and
it
really
I
think
it
wasn't
that
these
issues
weren't
being
worked
on
before
I,
think
it's
just
that
these
things
take
time
and
unfortunately,
the
the.
V
What
we
need
to
change
doesn't
happen
as
fast
as
people
evolve,
and
so
what
we're
experiencing
is
really
this,
like
the
the
gaps
and
and
the
need
for
services
right
now
far
outweighs
what
we
can
actually
provide,
and
so
I
did
get
the
good
news
that
Howard
Center
opened
up
their
wait
lists
for
for
adults
recently
but
like,
but
then
like,
but
I,
don't
know
what
that
actually
means.
It
just
means
that
there's
been
some
progress
but
like
that
wasn't
I,
think
part
of
the
communication
issue.
V
V
S
If
can
I
just
follow
up
sure,
so,
if
I'm
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
am
understanding
you
is
it
fair
to
say
that
in
your
opinion,
it
is
it's
complex,
of
course,
but
to
simplify
it.
It's
the
the
increasing
gap
between
need
and
our
ability
to
meet
that
need.
We
have
more
need
than
ever
and
we
I
don't
know
I
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
fewer
providers
actually
I.
T
S
S
V
Okay,
so
there's
definitely
Staffing
church,
so,
for
example,
even
just
hiring
for
myself
the
first
time,
the
first
time
around
with
the
csls
I
had
30
applicants
and
I
was
able
to
hire
someone
big
people
pretty
quickly
this
time
around
I've
had
about
10.
so
and
it's
been
open
longer,
so
I
think
just
even
the
a
year
difference,
and
this
is
for
a
position
that
pays
well.
V
It's
deaf,
especially
For
What,
the
minimum
requirements
are
and
there's
a
ton
of
flexibility
and
benefits
are
really
good
and
there's
just
a
lot
of
a
lot
more
positives
to
it
and
I
yeah.
So
I
think
that
the
has
the
climate
has
changed
in
terms
of
the
hiring
World
currently
and
I.
Think
you
do
it
is
it's
when
you
are
hearing
about
the
like
the
breakdowns
in
these
systems,
it's
really
hard
to
want
to
motivate
motivate
to
go
into
something
that
is
really
at
a
fever
pitch.
S
All
set
and
thank
you
thank
you
very
much,
I'm,
really
glad
that
the
police
commission
moved
this
forward.
I
think
it's
enlightening.
I
strongly
encourage
the
public
to
to
watch
what
they
can
and
to
read
the
report.
It's
an
area
where
I
think
we,
we
are
absolutely
in
crisis
and
need
to
focus
our
attention.
Thank
you.
W
Thank
you,
president
Paul,
and
thank
you
Lacey
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
sending
this
not
today,
but
since
the
24th
and
thank
you
for
being
patient
last
time.
We
appreciate
you
but
I
wanted
I
wanted
to
basically
just
say
if
this
report
has
been
submitted
to
the
board
of
health
of
the
City
of
Burlington.
V
I've
only
shared
it
with
counselors
and
the
mayor's
office,
so
I
haven't.
It
is
a
public
document.
I
mean
it's
something
that
can
be
shared,
but
I
didn't
I.
Think
the
other
I
think
it
would
be
important
to
share
with
them
I,
because
I
do
think
that
that's
kind
of
like
where
this
conversation
can
live.
G
X
W
Yep,
yep
and
I
think
officially,
if
you
can
submit
it
to
them,
that'd
be
great,
because
a
lot
of
great
wonderful
recommendations
are
in
in
in
in
in
there
and
I.
Think
I'm
just
gonna
talk
about
a
quote
from
the
Secretary
of
Health
for
the
state
of
Vermont,
and
if
you
go
to
the
United
Way
website,
it's
right
there.
It
says
effective
solution
to
address
the
challenges
our
mental
health
system
faces
and
that
ancient
vermontos
can
get
the
care
they
need
without
stigma
are
going
to
require
Innovative
and
sustainable
collaboration.
W
This
is
exactly
what
the
mental
health
initiative
aimed
to
generate
right
and
I
think
convening
the
people
to
talk
about.
It
is
just
one
example
and
reading
the
report.
You
will
think
that
the
responses
of
group
number
four
specifically
all
of
those
are
like
can
be
amp
could
have
been
implemented
since
it
was
generated
very
simple,
very
and
one
of
them
is
the
city
could
convince
a
workshop
in
improving
workplace
culture.
W
City
can
help
to
create
tables
or
ways
to
connecting
many
non-traditional
and
non-treatment
focused
programs
in
the
Greater,
Community
I
think
those
could
have
been
done
since
since
then
and
I
completely
agree.
We
need
someone
with
the
expertise
who
would
look
into
this
and
Implement
them
as
soon
as
possible,
because
this
we
are
all
experiencing
what
we
call
a
sense
of
urgency,
right,
yeah
but
I
also
completely
agree
and
I'm.
Pretty
sure
who'd
made
that
comment.
W
It
should
be
Sarah
Carpenter
consulate
Carpenter
about
Burlington,
definitely
won't
solve
this
problem
alone,
yes,
and
also
from
what
we
can
do
basically
is
to
think
about.
How
do
we
convene
outside
of
Burlington
and
just
the
surrounding
communities?
You
know
and
work
in
collaboration
with
them.
I
think
is
is
key,
because
this
requires
funding.
This
requires
collaboration
and
that's
definitely
the
The
Next
Step
and
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
I
watched
one
of
the
videos
as
well,
not
both
of
them
and
any
table
that
I
attend
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
W
V
You
know
the
person
that
is
convening
it,
but
really
this
could
be
someone's
baby
and
really
should
be
in
terms
of
just
the
degree
of
kind
of
coordination
within
our
community.
That
is
really
desired
and
I
mean
this
is
a
long.
It's
a
long
conversation
trying
to
really
understand
the
difference
between
again
like
what
does
this
state?
What
are
those
barriers,
because
they
are
not
identical
to
the
ones
that
we
have
on
a
local
level,
and
how
do
we
simultaneously
try
to
work
on
addressing
both
and
part
of?
L
A
A
A
Y
I
think
if
what
I
was
trying
to
say
if
we
need
to
we're
having
a
conversation
about
a
mental
health
Summit,
if
we
need
to
have
a
moment
of
de-escalation,
I
think
that
we
can
take
space
for
that.
I
think
that
that
seems
to
be
what's
going
on
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
there's
someone
there
who
can
maybe
assist
in
that,
but
I,
don't
think
just
yelling
back
and
forth
is
going
to
secrete.
A
C
C
A
V
Z
Great,
thank
you.
President.
Paul
brevity
will
be
our
order
tonight.
We
are
going
to
hit
high
wave
tops
of
our
memo
that
was
in
the
council
packet
and
save
most
of
the
time
for
Council
questions,
pleased
to
be
joined
tonight
by
Public
Works
engineer,
Phillip
Peterson
will
clavel
and
Carl
nasarawi
from
business
and
Workforce
Development,
and
we
are
here
to
give
an
update
on
the
North
Winooski
Avenue
project.
Z
As
you
all
have
known,
we
embarked
on
a
two-year
scoping
study
that
resulted
in
2020
of
this
Council
approving
that
study
and
asking
on
the
Northern
section
of
North
Winooski
Avenue
to
do
additional
work
around
parking
impacts.
The
recommendation
of
the
study
calling
for
bike
Lanes
North
in
the
old
North
End,
was
going
to
impact
parking,
so
we
went
through
the
parking
management
plan
brought
it
to
you
all
in
2022.
Z
As
part
of
the
public
process,
we
agreed
and
recommended,
and
you
agreed
to
phase
the
work,
to
look
at
installing
the
project
between
a
two
block
area
north
of
Union
Street
to
Riverside
Avenue,
and
that
we
were
going
to
employ
a
multi-pronged
strategy
to
limit
the
impact
of
the
removal
of
approximately
40
parking
spaces
and
to
maximize
the
benefit
of
the
reinvestment
in
the
old
North.
End
I'll
have
Philip
Peterson
highlight
the
top
three
that
he's
been
working
on
I'll
finish
out
and
then
we'll
be
open
for
questions.
AA
All
right,
so
one
thing
that
we
worked
through
through
the
resolution:
fifteen
thousand
dollars
of
seed
funding
was
allocated
for
transportation,
demand
management
grants.
We
worked
with
the
toque
on
allocating
those
funds
and
we've
it's
all
in
the
memo,
so
I'll
keep
it
short.
The
other
thing
that
I've
been
working
on
is
geometric
issues
on
North
Winooski
Ave,
to
see,
if
there's
opportunities
to
increase
parking
and
there's
some
opportunities
there.
Z
Thank
you
and
three
additional
strategies
we've
been
working
on
is
developing
shared
parking
in
existing
parking
resources
along
the
corridor.
We've
been
working
with
property
owners
and
businesses.
I
was
pleased
that
Burlington
Housing
Authority
has
preliminarily
granted
up
to
six
spaces
to
chcb
the
Community
Health
Center
of
Burlington.
They
are
working
through
that
Arrangement.
Z
Z
So
with
that
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
I
do
want
to
thank,
will
and
Cara
for
their
help,
going
door-to-door
with
us
providing
a
conduit
of
information
and
as
we
move
forward,
you
have
our
our
commitment
to
deliver
this
project
this
summer,
2023
Paving
is
projected
to
happen
with
as
much
Focus
we
can
on
on
mitigating
any
impacts.
Thank
you.
J
Z
To
every
business
or
property
owner
that
has
substantial
off-street
parking,
that
appears
that
could
be
used
during
off-peak
times
for
the
general
public
that
includes
Vermont
legal
aid,
Champlain
Housing,
Trust,
Hinsdale
properties,
and
then
we've
met
with
Burlington
housing
authority
and
others.
So
out
of
that
process,
there
have
been
concerns
of
people
saying
well,
we
may
have
some
excess
parking,
but
not
always
we're
nervous
about
liability.
We're
not
sure
how
the
shared
parking
system
would
work.
Z
So
what
we
have
pledged
to
do
and
I
think
what
you're
referring
to
councilor
Barlow
is
develop
a
turnkey
program
where
the
city
would
offer
to
manage
and
enforce
off-street
parking
in
off-peak
hours
for
any
business
or
property
owner
who
is
interested,
and
we
are
looking
at
a
very
beneficial
Revenue
split
so
that
we
could
really
tell
that
partners
so
that
so
that
we
could
work
with
those
Property
Owners
to
not
only
help
them
financially
but
to
take
take
away
some
of
the
liability
and
concerns
that
they
have
around.
How
do
we
manage
this?
Z
J
A
Hello
so-
and
this
will
come
back
to
us
again-
the
resolution
calls
for
another
update
in
April
you
if
there's
no
other
questions
from
counselors,
we'll.
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
close
out
this
item.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
minutes
left
before
public
forum
and
I.
Don't
know
how
long
the
informational
hearing
will
take
for
the
schools,
but
maybe
we
can
try
to
try
to
fit
that
one
in
before.
A
A
AB
AB
M
G
G
AC
A
Just
for
those
who
are
here
in
Khan
Choice
a
few
pieces
of
information,
we
have
a
table
in
front
of
us
or
a
table
in
front
of
me.
That
has
three
green
light:
three
lights,
one
is
green
and
will
shine
when
you
begin
speaking
the
second,
when
you
have
30
seconds
left
and
then
the
last
red
light
will
shine
when
your
time
is
up,
we
do
have
a
hybrid
system.
A
The
only
thing
we
ask
is
that
you
please
try
to
keep
your
minute.
Your
your
comments
to
two
minutes
and
there's
a
timer
that
will
go
on
behind
me
for
those
in
conchoice
and
then,
when
we're
online,
there's
actually
a
little
timer
that
we
will
have
put
up
so
that
you'll
know
when
your
time
is
running
winding
down
with
that
we
will
go
to
public
forum
and
there
are
three
people
that
wish
to
speak
with
us.
A
AC
AD
One,
the
main
mistake
nine
years
ago,
was
that
we
we
defined
this
new
war
to
be
a
a
utility,
an
instrument
to
solve
a
problem.
But
what
you
know
what
wordate
was
as
leftovers,
in
which
we
kind
of
just
swept
under
the
rug,
a
problem
like
what
to
do
with
the
athletic
campus,
so
that
it
was
for
seven
of
the
words
out
of
mind
and
you
know
not
a
problem,
but
unless
you
were
living
in
that
war,
you
didn't
like
having
the
city's
problems
swept
into
there.
AD
Now
you
can
do
a
non-um,
a
non
salamander,
Ward
8
that
solves
problems.
This
looks
like
Texas
instead
of
a
salamander,
but
it
takes
the
Redstone
campus
Champlain
College
and
a
little
bit
more
and
it
solves
the
problems
and
it's
not
a
salamander.
It's
shaped
like
Texas,
it's
more
compact,
but
the
problem
is
is
that
it
still
doesn't
have
any
identity,
any
reason
to
exist
other
than
to
solve
these
other
problems
for
other
places
in
the
city.
G
AD
A
A
AE
Hi
everyone
I'm
Rach,
stay
at
home
mom
here
in
downtown
Burlington,
thanks
for
having
me
I'm
just
here
to
be
a
voice
dial
that
the
situation
downtown
is
pretty
stressful.
As
a
mom
I've
been
living
on
South
news
key
for
the
last
four
and
a
half
years,
it
feels
vastly
different
when
I
walk
with
my
children.
AE
I'm
getting
yelled
at
my
kids
here,
cursing
I
feel
like
I'm,
the
only
person
out
shopping
at
city
market
during
the
day
and
we're
one
car
Family
household,
we're
proud
of
it,
but
it
feels
pretty
stressful
to
be
out
walking
with
my
kids
or
even
without
my
kids
and
I,
see
a
very,
very,
very
different
scenario
than
I've
seen
in
the
last
four
years,
and
my
life
hasn't
changed.
I'm
privileged
to
be
a
stay-at-home
mom.
A
U
I
I
feel
that
for
some
who
don't
know,
Ward
one
that
they're
thinking
that
we're
selfish
and
unwilling
to
change
boundaries
and
and
don't
really
understand
the
proposed
now
I
guess
it's
the
central
that
you're
looking
at
map
I
just
want
to
put
it
in
perspective
that
section
of
Ward
one.
If
you
look
at
your
annual
report,
are
where
it's
the
it's
the
stable
long-term
resident
section
all
those
streets
it
has
all
of
most
of
the
people
from
that
are
appointed
to
boards
and
commissions.
U
It
has
all
of
our
election
officials,
and
it
also
has
most
of
our
steering
committee
members
I,
feel
that
what
you
are
doing
is
taking
out
the
stability,
the
long-term
residence
and
leaving
Ward
one
with
a
population
of
some
long-term
residents,
sprinkled
throughout,
but
mainly
renters.
That
now
are
no
longer
long-term
renters.
Now
I've
been
two
years
since
I
went
door
knocking,
but
I
did
go
door
knocking
even
though
I
lost
the
election
I
did
go
and
there
were
most
of
the
renters
are
now
revolving
door
there
for
two
years.
U
So
what
you've
done
is
erode
in
this
proposal.
The
stability
that
once
was
in
Ward
one
and
left
us
with
a
very
unstable
Ward,
and
that's
really
what
I've
been
talking
about
and
trying
to
put
forward.
I
hope
that
when
councilor
Hightower
comes
back,
that
she
will
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
what's
being
proposed
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Q
Great
thanks
so
thanks
so
much
I
too
had
hoped
to
talk
to
her
in
your
or
ahead
of
your
work
session
and
I'm.
Just
speaking
as
you
know,
a
long
time
word
one
resident
since,
since
the
early
80s,
as
some
of
you
probably
know,
I
used
to
represent
Ward
Ward,
one
in
was
seek
mates
with
counselor
butcher
for
a
number
of
years.
So
you
know
I've
looked
at
the
maps.
None
of
them
are
great
for
Ward,
one
and
and
I
will
confess.
Q
I
have
a
somewhat
parochial
perspective
being
a
long-term
resident
of
Ward
one,
but
I
feel
like
the
maps
that
you
guys
discussed
during
the
work
session.
I
was
not
able
to
listen
to
all
of
it,
but
the
ones
that
you
seem
to
be
favoring.
The
North
Hill
section
maps,
but
they
totally
eviscerate
word
one
and
the
historic
cohesion
of
that
neighborhood
I
I
agree
100
with
everything
that
former
counselor
busher
just
said:
you're
really
creating
one
you're,
creating
a
sacrifice.
Q
A
new
sacrifice,
Zone
in
my
mind,
a
new
sacrifice,
Ward
that
will
lose
most
of
its
long-term
residents,
most
of
whom
identify
with
Ward
one
voted.
Mata
Christie
are
part
of
the
one
NPA
very
active
and
basically
creating
a
ward
of
mostly
short-term
renters
lots
and
lots
of
students
and
a
couple
of
us
long-term
residents
sprinkle
here
and
there
it's
if
you're,
really
just
creating
a
new
word.
Basically
is
what
you're
doing
so.
That's
that's
my
comment.
I
I
hope
you
can.
Q
A
R
A
Thank
you
thanks,
so
much
and
before
you
leave,
if
you
could,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
filling
out
a
piece
of
paper,
so
we
can
have
your
name
for
the
record.
That
would
be
very
helpful
thanks
for
your
comments
and
thanks
to
all
for
your
comments
during
public
forum
with
that,
we
will
close
public
forum
at
743
I'm.
Looking
up
at
a
map,
a
clock,
my
apologies,
which
we
normally
do.
However,
it
is
on
eastern
daylight
time,
so
I'm
a
little
bit
confused.
A
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
item
4.01,
we'll
go
back
to
4.01,
which
is
a
public
information
hearing
regarding
the
authorization
to
issue
General
obligation,
bonds
to
build
a
new
high
school
and
Technical
Center.
This
is
a
requirement
that
we
hold
such
a
hearing
to
provide
voters
with
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
remaining
questions
or
offer
comments
and
it's
an
informational
hearing.
So
we
would
welcome
any
comments
from
the
public
and
also
from
any
counselors,
particularly
if
you
have
questions
that
you've
heard
from
constituents.
A
A
J
B
AF
Sure
yeah,
that's
that's
exactly
correct.
The
non-homestead
rate
is
not
set
on
the
basis
of
any
individual
districts
spending
pre-equalized
pupil,
unlike
the
Homestead
Rate,
which
is
so
there
is,
it's
only
adjusted
frankly
bear
our
local
common
level
of
appraisal.
So
commercial
properties,
including
rental
property,
is
subject
at
non-homestead
rate
and
that
won't
change
as
a
direct
result
of
of
the
outcome
of
the
vote,
including
if
BSD
ends
up
borrowing
up
to
165
million
foreign.
B
A
Thank
you,
counselor
Carpenter,
are
there
other
counselors
who
had
questions
or
the
floor
is
really
open
during
an
inner,
an
informational
hearing?
If
there
are
members
of
the
public
who
are
either
joining
us
in
person
or
joining
us
online,
you
can
use
the
raise
hand
function
if
you're
online
and
we
can
easily
recognize
you
and
just
also
wanted
to
note.
Counselor,
Hightower
and
counselor
Freeman
are
both
joining
us
via
Zoom.
A
A
N
Thank
you,
president
Paul
had
actually
several
updates
for
the
Council
on
on
the
City's
climate
work
one.
There
was
really
quite
an
exciting
event
at
the
airport
last
week
on
the
roof
of
the
parking
garage.
It
was
actually
the
second
time
we've
had
a
major
press
conference
on
the
roof
of
the
parking
garage.
N
There's
a
major
solar
array
that
was
installed
there
some
years
ago,
I
believe
five
years
ago,
which
has
contributed
to
our
overall
standing
as
the
city
with
the
greatest
amount
of
rooftop
solar,
installed,
photoelectric
Vault
panels
in
New
England
and
one
of
the
top
10
City
cities.
Nationwide
last
week's
press
conference
was
to
announce
the
installation
of
the
orb,
which
is
a
new
technology.
It
is
essentially
a
much
more
compact
wind
turbine
that
is
built
and
designed
for
urban
installations.
It
can
function.
N
It
and
productively
provide
energy
at
lower
winds,
and
it
works
well
on
Urban
rooftops
and
at
least
we
believe
it
will
or
that's
the
hope
it
will.
It's
a
it's
a
prototype
product
that
seems
to
have
significant
potential.
It
has
the
potential
for
greater
electricity
generation
per
square
foot
than
solar
installations,
and
is
a
really
interesting
new
technology.
It's
great
to
see
it
being
piloted
here
in
Burlington.
It's
also
great.
N
The
story
behind
it
is
that
this
product
was
one
of
the
is
being
developed
by
a
company
that
that
went
through
an
accelerator
that
is
hosted
at
the
Burlington
electric
department,
where
about
10
every
year
about
I
believe
there
are
two
sessions
where
we
have
around
20
companies
10
in
each
session
that
are
given
the
opportunity
to
develop
new
products,
focus
in
the
energy
space
and
work
with
BD
and
other
resources
here
in
Vermont
to
advance
these
Technologies.
It
was
exciting
to
see-
and
let's,
let's
hope
it
goes
forward
from
here.
N
The
BD
will
be
going
to
mpas
throughout
November
to
take
input
on
the
concept
of
regulating
new
buildings
with
respect
to
thermal
energy
in
a
new
way,
and
we
do
expect
to
have
a
proposal
before
the
the
council
in
for
at
least
the
beginning
of
discussions
in
December,
giving
us
plenty
of
time
to
go
back
to
the
voters
on
town
meeting
day.
If
there's
anything
in
the
new
regulations
that
requires
that
per
the
ordinance
and
and
in
May.
N
N
A
A
P
A
And
all
those
any
of
any
opposed,
please
say:
no.
We've
improved.
We've
approved
our
consent
agenda.
Before
we
get
to
our
deliberative
agenda,
we
do
have
two
other
meetings
that
we
need
to
attend
to
the
board
of
civil
Authority
and
the
city
councilor
with
mayor
presiding,
so
we'll
recess.
The
city
council
meeting
at
7,
53
and
I
will
pass
the
floor
to
Mayor
Weinberger
who
chairs
these
two
meetings.
Mayor
Weinberger.
N
N
J
N
N
N
N
A
N
S
N
AG
Thank
you,
Council
and
president
Paul
I
have
lived
in
Burlington
for
25
years
and
owned
our
house
at
the
corner
of
King
and
pine
for
19
of
those
years,
I
have
been
involved
in
community
engagement
with
those
living
in
downtown
core
for
those
of
those
years,
including
reaching
out
to
my
bypoc
neighbors,
as
and
as
a
bipart
person
myself,
who
have
been
dramatically
impacted
by
the
increase
in
day-to-day
violence
and
how
the
police
responds
to
their
needs
and
concerns.
I
understand
how
Complex
public
safety
is
with
the
role
of
the
police.
AG
AG
I
have
watched
the
Nicole
online
videos
and
I
am
generally
familiar
with
the
national
models
of
Citizen
oversight
of
local
police
I
have
reviewed,
Mission
and
departmental
documents
and
have
a
basic
familiarity
with
the
role
of
the
commission,
I
hope
and
I'm
ready
to
bring
my
academic
expertise
in
communication
and
my
personal
and
Community
experience
and
commitment
to
Public,
Safety
inclusion
and
Equity
of
the
commission.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
and
hopefully
your
support.
Thank
you.
N
B
W
K
I
just
want
to
as
a
reference
just
thank
people
for
what
I
hope
will
be
unanimous
support
for
kundala
and
the
comments
that
the
downtown
resident
made
to
us
in
public
forum
are
apropos.
Here
is
an
applicant
who
has
been
living
in
the
downtown
and
experience.
This
isn't
is
connected
with
the
community
and
brings
a
tremendous
amount
of
both
professional
and
Community
experience.
I
think
we
would
we
would.
We
would
be
greatly
served
if
we
appoint
her
and
I
look
forward
to
in
a
unanimous
vote.
Thank
you.
N
I
saw
a
hand
up
there,
but
I
think
that
is
not
for
this.
For
this
discussion.
So
is
fish
no
further
discussion.
I
will
we
will
go
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
appointing
the
nominee,
Rao
police,
say
aye
aye
the
eyes
clearly
have
it
and
thank
you
for
your
your
application
and
we
look
forward
to
working
on
you
in
this
critical
role
at
this
really
important
time
for
the
city
on
Public
Safety.
N
Thank
you
with
no
objection
with
all
of
the
business
of
the
city
council,
mayor,
presiding,
having
been
addressed.
I
will
close
that
meeting
at
7
59
pm
and
move
to
the
board
of
civil
Authority
and
have
that
agenda.
Now
the
would
welcome
a
motion
to
a
I'll
call
into
a
call
to
order
that
meeting
at
759
and
I
would
welcome
motion
regarding
the
agenda
motion.
N
G
N
There
any
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously,
which
brings
us
to
really
the
only
order
of
business,
which
is
a
motion
to
adopt
the
consent
agenda
and
take
the
action
indicated.
Are
you
ready
for
that
motion
so
moved?
Thank
you,
president.
Paul.
Is
there
a
second
second
by
councilor,
McGee
discussion
of
the
motion?
Seeing
none?
We
will
go
to
a
vote.
All
those
in
favor
of
motion.
Please
say:
aye
aye.
Are
there
any
opposed?
N
A
You
mayor
Weinberger,
so
we'll
reconvene,
the
recessed
council
meeting
at
801
and
we
have
and
we'll
continue
with
item
number
eight,
which
is
our
deliberative
agenda.
We
have
six
items
on
our
deliberative
agenda.
The
first
is
item
8.01,
which
is
a
communication
from
mayor
Moreau
Weinberger
regarding
the
appointment
of
an
assistant,
City
attorney
and
with
that
I'll
turn
the
floor
back
to
you,
mayor,
Weinberger,.
N
Thank
you,
president.
Paul
I
am
really
pleased
to
bring
forward
tonight
with
the
support
of
acting
City
attorney,
Kimberly
Sturdivant
and
the
full
search
committee.
The
appointment
of
Kyle
Klaus
to
be
an
assistant,
City,
attorney
and
I
believe
Kyle
has
joined
us
remotely.
Those
of
us
in
the
room
can
see
him
on
the
in
the
upper
right
on
the
screen.
Kyle
will
bring
needed
capacity
and
impressive
breadth
of
experience
to
the
city.
Attorney's
office
cows
got
strong
Vermont
connections.
He
was
he's
a
graduate
of
the
Vermont
law.
N
School
currently
is
working
in
private
practice
in
his
home
state
of
New
Jersey,
where
he
specializes
in
Municipal
law,
including
land
use,
regular
regulation,
zoning
labor
and
employment
law.
Kyle
has
clerked
in
both
the
superior
court
of
New
Jersey
and
the
U.S
District
Court
of
Massachusetts,
and
his
resume
demonstrates
a
curiosity
in
professional
commitment
in
the
areas
of
law
important
to
our
city,
as
we
confront
the
challenges
ahead
and
work
to
meet
our
goals
around
housing
and
homelessness,
climate
action
and
racial
equity
to
highlight
just
some
of
his
relevant
recent
work
experience
at
VLS.
N
He
was
an
assistant
to
associate
Dean
for
academic
Affairs
and
diversity,
Dean
Shirley
Jefferson
prior
to
graduating
law
school.
He
researched
housing
policy
for
Cambridge,
City,
councilor,
Sabrina,
wheeler
and
Boston
City
councilor,
Michelle
Wu.
Now
the
mayor
of
the
city,
his
knowledge
and
experience
in
practicing
Municipal
law
and
his
enthusiasm
for
areas
of
policy
that
will
support
the
goals
of
the
Burlington
Community
will
make
him
an
outstanding
team
member
in
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
I'm.
Pleased
to
welcome
him
to
the
city
team
know
that
burlingtonians
will
benefit
from
his
work
and
I
hope.
N
A
O
Thank
you
mayor.
It's
a
it's
fantastic
to
speak
with
you
all
tonight.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
Vermont
is
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
I
graduated
from
Vermont
law
school
and
had
a
fabulous
time
there
really
formative
years
and
I
actually
met
my
now
fiance
one
of
our
earliest
States
was
to
Burlington.
We
saw
this
guitar
Prodigy
at
nectar's.
A
A
K
Very
briefly,
the
resume
I
think
speaks
to
a
breadth
of
interest
and
expertise
that
we
need.
As
a
former
20-year
member
of
that
office,
it
gives
me
great
pride
to
be
able
to
to
to
nominate
people
who
I
think
will
do
us
a
great
deal
of
service
and
I.
Thank
the
mayor
for
the
good
work
that
that
the
team
did
to
get
this
applicant.
A
A
A
N
Thank
you,
president
Paul.
Yes,
I
am
very
excited
to
have
a
another
appointment
for
your
confirmation
tonight.
The
appointment
of
Kim
Carson
to
be
our
next
director
of
racial
Equity
inclusion
and
belonging
and
Kim
is
here
with
us
tonight
and
and
Kim
why
you
come
up
and
and
join
us
here
at
the
table
since
creating
this
position
in
late
2019,
the
reib
department
has
gone
through
tremendous
growth
and
taken
on
numerous
critical
initiatives
to
advance
Equity
within
our
local
government
and
throughout
the
Burlington.
N
Community
I
want
to
recognize
acting
director,
Pitt
kiamanavan
and
the
entire
reib
team
for
their
work
over
the
course
of
2022.
Pitt
step
forward
at
a
critical
time
to
provide
departmental
focus
and
Leadership,
and
the
reib
staff
did
a
great
job
under
challenging
circumstances.
Pushing
forward
many
critical
initiatives
over
recent
months,
Kim
comes
to
the
city
team
from
Iowa,
where
she
served
recently
very
recently
as
the
Director
of
Education
and
human
capital
development
for
the
Iowa
judicial
branch.
N
Efforts
and
management
leading
a
department
with
such
a
broad
and
critical
mandate
is
a
major
challenge.
I'm
very
excited
to
be
bringing
forward
for
confirmation
and
individual
and
Kim
Carson,
who
possesses
the
skills,
education,
training,
work,
experience
and
values
to
succeed
in
this
key
leadership
role
with
the
combined
skill
and
dedication
within
the
reaib
department,
with
the
resources
that
we've
together,
the
administration
and
the
council
together
dedicated
to
the
mission
of
racial
Equity,
inclusion
and
belonging
and
with
Kim's
leadership.
N
I
am
confident
that
the
City
of
Burlington
will
be
well
equipped
to
continue
the
Urgent
work
of
ending
racial
disparities
and
fostering
a
sense
of
belonging
in
Burlington.
For
all
and
with
that
president
Paul
again,
who
would
welcome
the
opportunity
to
have
Kim
address
the
council
about
about
her
appointment?.
I
Can
you
hear
me
okay,
I
kind
of
have
a
coach
homing
voice,
so
I
try
to
be
careful
when
I'm
in
front
of
a
microphones,
but
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
and
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
today
in
person
actually
and
have
the
opportunity
to
sit
in
front
of
you
and
tell
you
how
excited
and
honored
that
I
am
to
be
being
put
forward
to
the
council
for
this
position.
I
do
not
take
this
lightly
in
any
way.
Bigger
than
that.
It's
the
time
and
I
think
I
said
this.
I
When
I
spoke
to
the
media,
my
career,
that
I
could
make
a
choice
on
where
I
wanted
to
be
and
I
just
really
feel
called
to
the
City
of
Burlington
I
brought
my
children
here
and
they
love
it,
and
so
I'm
just
really
really
excited
to
have
the
opportunity
to
integrate
within
the
community
and
be
a
part
of
the
community
that
I
think
is
primed
and
ready
for
change.
So
thank.
A
A
A
W
You,
president
and
I
would
like
to
start
by
saying,
welcome
to
the
City
of
Burlington
and
also
to
thank
all
members
of
the
hiring
committee
that
work
extensively
with
the
director
of
the
HR
to
bring
you
know
to
where
we
are
today
to
bring
us
here
together.
I
also
want
to
congratulate
both
the
acting
director,
Pat,
neovian
and
palant,
for
their
interest
in
the
position
to
lead
the
department
and
for
being
part
of
the
trip
finalists
that
you
know
for
this
appointment.
W
W
Please
let
us
reassured
that
you
will
be
challenged,
but
please
never
lose
sight
of
your
responsibilities,
of
ending
racial
disparities
and
Foster
of
chance
of
belonging.
Burlington
is
great
of
people
with
so
much
wisdom
and
also
passion
of
rebuilding
this
city,
and
please
know
that
they
all
open
their
hands
in
welcoming
you
here,
welcome
to
the
City
of
Burlington
and
congratulations
and
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
for
making
the
right
choice
here.
Thank
you.
A
A
T
A
Aye
any
opposed,
please
say:
no,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Congratulations
now,
director
Carson
and
to
you,
and
a
heartfelt
welcome
to
your
family,
who
we
will
look
forward
to
meeting
we're
anxious
to
get
to
work
with
you
and
we're
excited
to
support
and
Elevate
this
important
work.
So
congratulations.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
with
that
we
will
move
on
in
our
deliberative
agenda
with
item
8.03,
which
is
an
ordinance
comprehensive
development,
ordinance,
parking,
minimum
and
maximum
parking
requirements
and
transportation
demand
management,
which
is
Za
22-07
for
this
item.
I'll
turn
to
the
chair
of
the
ordinance
committee
councilor
Traverse,
and
just
also
wanted
to
note
that
we
do
have
joining
us
via
Zoom.
The
director
of
planning,
Megan,
Tuttle,
councilor,
Travers,.
A
A
A
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
A
L
L
There
are
two
other
parking
districts
in
the
city,
the
neighborhood
district
and
the
shared
use
District,
and
the
proposal
that's
before
the
council
now
would
waive
the
minimum
parking
requirements
in
those
districts,
so
they
would
be
waived
city-wide.
There
are
currently
in
place
Citywide
maximum
parking
requirements
as
well
as
I
understand
it.
L
The
proposal
before
the
council
right
now
would
make
no
changes
with
respect
to
the
existing
maximum
parking
requirements,
but
would
rather
lay
them
out
differently
in
a
table
that,
from
my
perspective,
in
the
perspective
of
many,
is,
is
easier
to
read
and
to
follow.
Although
that
has
been
a
point
of
confusion
for
some
who
have
been
following
this
legislation.
L
The
other
piece
outside
of
the
minimum
parking
requirements
is
the
requirements
of
the
transportation
demand
Management
program,
and
there
are
four
requirements
that
are
outlined
under
that
one
is
an
education
and
Outreach
component.
A
second
is
various
TDM
strategies
such
as
requiring
that
projects
of
a
certain
size,
purchase
bus,
passes,
purchase
car,
share
memberships
or
engage
with
the
transportation
management
association
to
offer
equal
same
similar
benefits.
L
There's
another
section
that
requires
that
projects
of
10
or
more
dwelling
units
or
commercial
projects
of
a
certain
size
engage
in
parking
utilization
studies
every
year
for
the
first
10
years
of
the
project,
build
certain
priority
spaces,
including
dedicated
spaces
for
car,
share
memberships
and
there's
provision
as
well.
That
requires
that
these
projects
all
submit
a
TDM
plan
to
the
city
that
must
be
followed
going
forward.
L
My
sense
in
working
on
this
and
trying
to
finesse
it
with
different
folks
and
stakeholders
over
the
last
few
meetings
is
that
there
seems
to
be
General
consensus
around
we.
We
would
like
to
as
a
community
extend
the
waiver
of
minimum
parking
requirements,
which
has
stood
as
an
as
an
obstacle
to
development
of
more
housing
and
more
density
in
our
community,
and
there
seems
to
be
General
consensus
behind
that.
L
Where
there's
been
a
number
of
questions
have
been
around
the
extent
to
which
we
would
like
to
expand
the
TDM
requirements
that
have
been
placed
on
downtown
projects.
I
think
that
TDM
the
goals
here
are
laudable
ones
and
if
you
look
to
other
communities
around
the
country
that
have
put
TDM
requirements
into
place,
like
San
Francisco,
for
example,
I
think
is
sort
of
the
lodestar
for
for
TDM
Nationwide.
L
You
know
if
you
go
online
and
Google
the
San
Francisco
TDM
program,
it'll
bring
up.
You
know
multiple
pages
of
a
menu
of
different
options
that
projects
in
San
Francisco
are
able
to
select
from
to
really
tailor
their
transportation
demand
benefits
to
the
specific
project.
I
understand
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised
by
some
that
our
TDM
ordinance
as
it's
written
right
now
for
downtown
projects
doesn't
really
allow
for
that.
Tailoring
of
Transportation
benefits
to
particular
projects
like
other
communities
have
allowed
for
so
I
think.
L
The
debate
here
seems
to
be
focusing
on
the
extent
to
which
we
would
like
to
expand
these
TDM
requirements
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
a
question
of
if
we
should
expand
them
rather
than
how
we
should
expand
them.
I
know
we
have
director
Tuttle
here.
It
appears
director,
Tuttle
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
be.
L
In
order
on
the
motion
to
refer
to
committee
here
to
hear
from
you
I
understand,
your
department
has
been
working
on
an
RFP
on
our
community,
getting
feedback
on
how
we
should
operate
with
respect
to
TDM
requirements,
I'm
wondering
if
it
would
be
in
order
for
you
to
weigh
in
on
this
at
that
point.
At
this
point
in
time,.
E
There,
you
are
sure,
happy
to
yes,
I
I.
Do
think
that
you
councilor
Traverse,
asked
the
question
about.
You
know
whether
the
concern
at
this
point
is
whether
to
or
how
to
expand
TDM
to
other
parts
of
the
city
and
I.
I.
Do
think
that
we
have
been
talking
largely
about
how
to
in
the
discussions
that
I've
been
involved
with
at
the
ordinance
committee
and
the
Planning
Commission
level
at
up
to
this
point.
L
E
L
Thank
you,
director,
Tuttle,
so
just
finally,
from
my
perspective,
I
I,
don't
think
at
least
personally.
My
intention
is
that
we
not
wait
until
the
end
of
2023
to
reach
the
bigger
goal
here.
From
my
perspective,
which
is
the
elimination
of
minimum
parking
requirements,
city-wide
I
should
say
as
well
that
there's
another
goal
here
that
we
have
heard
from
a
number
of
affordable
housing
organizations
in
Burlington
who
are
concerned
with
the
TDM
requirements,
as
they
are
laid
out
in
the
ordinance
right
now
and
I.
L
L
A
K
K
I
do
not
know
that
without
TDM
that
we
have
got
the
type
of
unanimity,
unanimity
or
consensus
around
the
elimination
of
parking
minimums
and
I
say
that
really
clearly,
there
is
an
unbridled
faith
that
if
we
give
this
major
subsidy
to
developers
that
that
the
market
will
magically
turn
that
into
a
decrease
in
rental,
housing
costs
or
other
costs.
I
do
not
share
that
unbridled
optimism
in
the
magic
of
the
market.
I'm.
Sorry
to
tell
those
that
might
not
not
be
pleased
with
that,
but
that
is
just
the
way.
K
I
I
believe
I
have
not
seen
that
to
to
have
occurred.
That
being
said,
I
have
said
here
before
that
this
planet
is
burning
and
we
have
got
to
do
everything
we
can
to
change
the
way
that
we
do
things,
and
that
includes
in
the
transportation
sector,
the
the
need
for
us
to
transition
away
from
the
use
of
fossil
fuels
in
that
sector.
40
percent
of
our
emissions
are
coming
from
that
sector.
We
have
got
a
woefully
inadequate
transportation
system
here
for
the
needs
that
our
climate
takes.
K
Anybody
can
see
that,
and
so
we
have
got
to
do
everything
we
can
to
bend
that
curve.
We
are
fiddling
while
this
planet
Burns
I,
sometimes
wish
that
I
could
speak
as
loudly
as
Todd,
but
I.
Don't
and
I
know
that
you
know
some
people
think
that
we're
doing
a
lot
or
we're
doing
enough
I
I
see
the
shakes
of
the
head.
K
S
Thank
you,
president
Paul,
and
thank
you.
Council
Bergman
I
agree
with
a
lot
a
lot
of
what
you
said,
as
this
goes
back
to
committee,
and
and
really
thank
you,
Council
Travers,
for
being
willing
to
take
this
back
to
committee
and
trying
to
find
a
path
forward.
As
you
always
do,
that's
really
a
consistent
pattern
with
you,
I'd
like
to
note.
S
I
I
also
had
reservations
about
eliminating
the
minimum
parking
requirements
in
in
the
neighborhood
parking
districts,
having
reached
out
to
my
constituents
and
heard
a
lot
from
them,
but
not
only
for
that
reason,
and
particularly
I,
had
some
I
had
some
really
interesting
feedback.
I
wanted
to
share
from
one
constituent
who
I
will
just
call
the
group
Guru
in
the
bike,
ped
Community,
who,
surprisingly,
when
I,
asked
the
question
about?
How
do
you
feel
about
eliminating
minimum
parking
requirements?
This
person,
who's
no
fan
of
cars,
obviously
said
no
I.
S
S
At
this
point
and
I
think
there's
broad
agreement
at
this
table
that
we
need
to
build
that
system
and
it's
very
challenging,
because
really
we
need
a
regional
system.
We
don't
just
need
to
get
from
the
south
end
to
the
new
North
End.
So
I
think
that
this
provides
another
opportunity
to
try
and
and
get
this
right,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
being
willing
to
do
that.
N
There
will
need
to
be
what
I
think
is
being
characterized
as
material
changes
for
this
ordinance
to
I
think
get
through
this
body
and
and
and
pass
my
desk.
So,
given
that
there
will
need
to
be
material
changes,
does
this?
Can
you
lay
out
how
what
kind
of
warning
requirements
there
are
and
how
that
intersects
with
this
idea
of
not
coming
back
for
another
month.
N
N
In
does
that
start
to,
then,
do
we
still
so
then
you're
pushing
another
21
days
or
something
beyond
the
fifth,
and
does
that?
What
is
there
I
believe
we're
getting
near
the
end
of
the
council's
ability
to
act
on
this
without
starting
the
whole
Planning
Commission
Council,
once
again,
Planning
Commission
process
once
again.
L
E
E
That
is
correct
that
the
amendment
will
be
in
a
position
to
be
acted
on
by
the
council
until
June
of
next
year.
There's
a
different
kind
of
deadline
in
front
of
the
council.
At
this
point,
though,
which
is
that
this
ordinance
as
it
was
written
for
your
public
hearing
back
in
August
I,
believe
it
was,
is
currently
in
effect
that
the
Department
of
Permitting
and
inspections
is
currently
administering
this
ordinance
as
if
it
were
adopted,
and
that
is
per
state
statute.
E
N
N
The
primary
impact
of
this
change
will
be
to
make
it
possible
to
build
more
homes
in
Burlington,
which
is
a
hot
crisis
and
one
that
very
directly
goes
to
the
climate
emergency
as
well.
Making
it
possible
to
build
more
homes
has
a
vastly
greater
impact
on
the
climate
impact.
This
community
has
than
the
modest
changes
to
our
transportation
patterns
that
we
can
hope
to
achieve
through
the
creation
of
a
new
TDM
system
over
time.
I'm,
a
supporter
of
trying
to
create
a
TDM
system.
I
disagree
with
the
characterization.
N
This
is
something
we've
studied
before
the
the
studies
that
have
been
done
in
2015
and
2018
had
to
do
with
specific
employer
only
plans
and
how
those
employers
could
increase
their
TDM
impacts.
What
we're
talking
now
is
potentially
I
think
a
far
more
impactful
systems
creation
where
we
would
actually
have
a
TDM.
N
N
We
know
that
people
who
live
in
Burlington,
no
matter
whether
they
use
single
cars
or
not
have
a
vastly
smaller
carbon
footprint
than
those
in
outer
line
communities-
and
you
know
the
word
fiddling
was
suggested-
it
is
it
is.
It
is
fiddling
with
the
housing
crisis,
while
there
are
enormous
demands
for
us
to
build
new
housing
to
to
keep
waiting
and
and
keep
delaying
on,
taking
an
action
that
we
know
will
be
a
pro-housing
action
that
will
make
it
more
likely
that
homes
get
built
in
Burlington.
N
The
idea
that
fixing
bad
policy
is
somehow
that
has
led
to
the
dramatic
overbuilding
of
of
parking
in
new
construction
in
Burlington
for
decades.
The
idea
that
fixing
that
becomes
a
subsidy
is
is
a
subsidy
is
a
really
kind
of
thing.
Turning
on
its
on
its
head,
what
we're
debating
here
and
what's
what's
at
stake?
We
should
not
be
putting
artificially.
N
We
should
not
be
allowing
artificial,
wasteful
policies
to
drive
up
the
cost
of
housing,
which
is
what
we've
done
for
decades,
and
we
should
stop
doing
it
as
soon
as
we
can
so
I
think
it's
unfortunate
that
we
can
be
moving
forward
with
this.
It's
clear
that
there
is
no
way
to
put
a
good
TDM
policy
in
place
until
we
have
this
study
very
rarely
in
the
decade
that
I've
been
working
with
this
Council
have
I
seen
us
take
action
first
and
then
study
the
policy
later.
N
That
was
the
concern
that
was
raised
about
the
TDM
policy
that
was
put
in
place
when
we
eliminated
parking
minimums
in
the
downtown
on
Transportation
corridors,
and
numerous
people
raised
the
concern
that
we
should
not
be
putting
in
place
a
new
system
until
the
study
was
done.
But
there
was
not
the
only
way
to
get
that
important
policy
change
at
the
time
was
to
try
something.
Well
now,
we've
tried
it
for
a
couple
years,
and
we
know
that
the
TDM
system,
as
I've
articulated
the
memo
to
earlier.
N
We
know
the
TDM
systems
that
are
in
place
have
problems.
They
are
negatively
impacting
housing.
They,
the
provisions
that
were
written
into
them
for
compliance,
are
not
working
out
as
intended,
and
that's
what
happens
when
you
make
policy
before
properly,
studying
and
laying
it
out,
so
we
there's
no
way
to
do
this
right.
There's
no
way
to
do
this,
and
do
it
right
until
the
study
is
complete.
N
A
I.
Thank
you,
mayor
Weinberger,
given
that
this
is
a
motion
to
refer
and
seeing
no
other
counselors
in
the
queue
will
go
to
a
vote.
So
the
motion,
the
motion,
is
to
refer
the
ordinance
back
to
the
ordinance
committee
with
a
full
report
back
or
a
report
back
to
the
full
council
at
our
December
5th
meeting.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
all.
AH
A
Any
opposed,
please
say:
no,
that
motion
passes
unanimously,
which
moves
us
on
to
item
8.04,
the
Board
of
Health
resolution
on
the
prevention
of
gun
violence
and
for
this
item,
which
will
also
be
a
referral
to
the
council's
Public
Safety
Committee.
We
have
Celia
bird
with
us
and
would
encourage
you
to
come
forward
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
with
us,
we've
tried
to
a
lot
we've
allotted
about
15
minutes
or
so
for
this.
A
AI
AJ
A
AJ
In
terms
of
the
resolution,
you
have,
the
first
section
prevents
the
Staggering
human
and
economic
toll
of
gun.
Violence
on
our
nation,
which
disproportionately
affects
communities
of
color,
describes
how
Vermont
has
a
higher
than
average
rate
of
suicide
and
domestic
violence
homicide
most
often
committed
with
guns.
AJ
It
describes
how
gun
violence
within
our
city
has
risen
dramatically
recently
from
an
average
of
two
incidents
per
year
for
a
decade
to
12,
14
and
25
gunfire
incidents
in
the
past
three
years,
like
our
nation,
our
city
is
desperate
for
Meaningful
change,
and
our
mayor
has
responded
by
implementing
multiple
Public
Safety
initiatives
as
commissioners
of
the
Board
of
Health,
with
the
duty
to
promote
and
protect
the
health
of
Wellington
citizens.
We
suggest
here
additional
measures
to
address
the
Public
Health
crisis
of
gun
violence
in
our
city.
AJ
We
suggest
creating
an
office
of
gun,
violence,
prevention
to
coordinate
and
oversee
these
and
other
initiatives,
and
to
be
sure
that
we
address
gun
violence
with
racial
Equity,
social
determinants
of
health
and
trauma-informed
solutions.
We
need
to
improve
data
collection
and
reporting
to
guide
evidence-based
initiatives
and
to
assess
their
efficacy.
AI
AI
Please
act
on
this
opportunity
to
continue
to
protect
and
serve
your
constituents
and
our
community
by
using
our
resolution
as
a
public
health
framework
to
prevent
gun
violence.
We
hope
that
you
bring
this
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee
and
create
a
resolution
that
can
be
passed
by
the
full
Council
in
December.
Thank
you.
A
C
A
C
L
Thank
you,
president
Paul
I
just
want
to
thank
the
Board
of
Health
for
the
great
amount
of
work
that
they've
put
into
this
I
know
that
you
and
your
other
members
have
been
reviewing
this
for
some
time
and
well
I'm,
not
a
member
of
the
Public
Safety,
Committee,
I,
think
councilor
McGee
and
the
members
of
that
committee
for
taking
this
on
and
I'm
excited
about
what
comes
back.
You
know
our
tools
right
now,
as
a
city
are
too
limited
for
us
to
be
able
to
address
this
issue.
L
I
think
our
ordinance
is
right,
now
prohibit
possession
of
firearms
only
in
our
parks
and
cemeteries
and
other
than
that.
Our
ordinances
only
prohibit
the
discharge
of
firearms
within
the
Burlington
City
Limits
I.
Think
Burlington.
Voters
a
few
years
ago
made
it
very
clear
that
we
here
in
Burlington,
wanted
to
be
able
to
take
more
reasonable
gun
reform
measures,
I'm
frustrated
that
the
legislature
has
not
taken
action
on
that.
L
N
Thank
you,
president.
Paul
I
too,
wanted
to
thank
the
Board
of
Health
for
for
taking
on
this
really
challenging
issue
and
and
coming
forward
with
comprehensive
list
of
of
actions
for
us
to
consider.
I
want
to
assure
you
that
the
mayors
that
I
agree
with
the
idea
that
we
should
once
again
be
pursuing
action
on
Montpelier
with
respect
to
the
issues
that
were
endorsed
by
Burlington
voters
several
years
ago.
I
think
would
be
better
and
maybe
more
likely
to
get
action
in
Montpelier.
N
If,
since
there
seems
to
be
a
deep
resistance
to
local
action
on
gun,
violence
issues,
I
I
think
it
would
have
an
even
more
comprehensive
impact
if
safe
storage
and
prohibition
of
guns
in
in
bars
and
restaurants,
with
where
liquor
is
being
served
and
unfinished
policy
work.
Although
I
think
some
was
taken
with
respect
to
domestic
violence,
if
there's
any
further.
M
N
I
think
we
certainly
fully
agree
that
that's
action,
we
hope
to
see
from
the
legislature
this
year.
I
look
forward
to
a
council
resolution
that
endorses
that
as
well
as
well
as
other
other
steps
that
we
can
take
together
to
to
to
turn
around
this
very
troubling
Spike
that
we've
seen
this
year
and
to
make
burlingtonians
safer
it
is
it
is.
N
Perhaps
I
would
have
had
a
positive
impact
on
the
12
late
night
shootings
following
bar
closings
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
We
had
had
clear,
very
troubling
incidents
with
respect
to
guns
and
buyers,
and
before
the
last
couple
years
we
shouldn't
have
had
needed
this
further
evidence
that
such
a
such
change
was
necessary.
N
A
B
A
Y
A
Any
opposed,
please
say:
no,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
both
again
cilia
and
Jen,
and
the
other
members
of
the
Board
of
Health
for
your
work
on
this
and
your
service
to
the
city.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
to
item
8.05
and
I
just
need
to
get
a
chair
for
for
our
assistant,
City
attorney
and
just
give
me
a
moment.
A
So
we're
moving
on
to
item
8.05
and
we'll
call
to
order
the
hearing
regarding
Orlando's,
Bar
and
Lounge
outdoor
entertainment
permit.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
each
party
the
opportunity
to
present
their
case,
which
can
include
evidence
submitted
and
Witnesses.
They
may
choose
to
speak
on
their
behalf.
A
We've
allotted
30
minutes
for
this
agenda
item
and
on
the
advice
of
legal
counsel,
Kayla
Haley,
Haley
McClanahan,
who
is
sitting
here
with
me,
we're
able
to
set
a
time
limit
for
each
side
to
be
heard
and
have
determined
that
10
minutes,
not
including
questions
from
the
council,
is
reasonable.
With
that
we'll
set
a
timer
for
10
minutes.
X
A
On
the
other
side,
so
what
we're
talking
about
is
just
being
able
to
have
enough
time
for
either
party
if
they
wish
to
offer,
have
any
rebuttal
and
we'll
we'll
give
you
two
minutes
for
that
at
the
end,
so
the
10
minutes
will
be
the
10
minutes.
If
you
have
witnesses
that
are
here,
that's
part
of
the
10
minutes
and
then,
if
there's,
we
will
do
that.
Obviously,
at
the
end,
is
there
anything
else.
AL
AE
AL
AK
Right
I
took
the
opportunity
to
prepare
a
packet
of
information
for
the
council
before
arriving
tonight
and
I.
Do
thank
you
for
having
that
opportunity
to
send
it
in
advance
and
for
your
consideration
this
evening
in
that
packet,
I
included
an
introductory
letter
which
explains
much
of
the
situation
as
well
as
rebutting
some
of
the
information
provided
in
a
letter
from
Brandon
Mossman,
the
owner
of
Orlando's.
AK
It
also
includes
information
on
it
includes
copies
of
all
of
their
entertainment
permits,
which
include
applications
which
has
their
requested
hours
a
former
sworn
complaint
or
additional
sworn
complaint
from
a
gentleman
named
Matt
Paradise,
who
was
my
neighbor
across
the
street
at
115
Pine
Street,
copies
of
my
sworn
complaints,
information
from
the
license
committee
meeting
minutes
regarding
this
issue.
To
give
you
a
full
background
on
what
has
gone
on
in
the
license
committee
and
I
believe
also
recently
submitted
was
a
another
piece
of
information.
AK
I
am
not
the
only
person
who
has
issues
with
Orlando's.
My
neighbors
in
my
building
have
had
problems
with
them
since
the
or
problems
with
the
entertainment,
rather
not
with
them
individual
individually,
but
with
their
entertainment
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic.
That
is
actually
the
first
moment
when
entertainment
was
allowed
on
a
nightly
basis
in
that
area.
It
had
never
been
permitted
before
or
that
specific
area
had
never
been
permitted
before
it
is
a
right-of-way,
and
the
stage
does
block
that
right
of
way.
AK
I
think
the
thing
that
I
most
want
to
say
to
council
is
or
want
to
point
out
to
council
is
that
this
entertainment
started
as
part
of
a
covid-19
pandemic
program
to
help
bars
and
restaurants
through
that
difficult
time
period
And.
While
it
was
a
great
program,
most
pandemic,
programmings
have
ended,
and
I
would
like
to
urge
the
council
to
end
this
one
as
well.
F
AL
Will
you
reach
your
right
hand?
Please
will
do
you
swear
affirm
that
the
testimony
that
you're
about
to
give
relative
to
the
cause
under
consideration
before
the
council
tonight
will
be
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth
I
do
thank
you,
and
could
you
just
say
your
first
and
last
name
for
our
record.
Please
Thea.
F
F
So
I
actually
had
a
prepared
statement,
because
I
thought
I'd
be
doing
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
in
public
forum,
so
I
own,
the
tour
company,
Queen
City,
Ghost
walk,
and
over
the
last
20
years,
we've
brought
countless
numbers
of
people
into
the
city
to
hear
Burlington's
ghostly
history,
even
though
we
have
no
brick
and
mortar
store.
We
I
think
are
an
important
part
of
the
community
people
who
come
to
our
tours
come
also
to
shop
and
to
dine
in
the
City
of
Burlington.
F
Historically,
establishments
on
Lawson
Lane
have
cheerfully
coexisted
with
our
tour
I
mean
for
two
decades
and
we
used
to
stop
by
a
few
evenings
each
week,
particularly
in
our
busy
season,
which
is
mid-september
through
the
end
of
October.
Until
a
chilly
night
last
October
2021
when
I
entered
the
courtyard
with
no
bands
or
tables
in
sight.
We
were
in
the
center
of
the
right-of-way
I
in
my
group,
and
I
began
to
tell
the
story
of
Gideon
King,
but
was
interrupted
by
a
man
who
approached
from
the
doorway
of
Orlando's
and
told
me
to
leave.
F
F
When
I
didn't
leave,
he
moved
to
the
doorway
of
the
club
watching
while
greeting
customers,
until
we
exited
the
space
this
year
on
a
very
different
tour,
I,
discovered,
Orlando's
seating
area,
blocked
a
passage
from
the
stairs
behind
the
building
to,
and
that
is
a
Stairway.
That
is
an
iron
stairway
that
goes
up
behind
flatbread
up
behind
Orlando's.
F
I
reconfigured
my
tour
and
then
made
a
call
to
the
city
to
clarify
the
boundaries
of
the
right-of-way,
but
that
was
inconclusive.
So
I
went
to
the
club's
website,
hoping
to
find
the
name
of
somebody.
I
might
discuss
the
situation
with
and
what
I
found
was
that
I
I?
Don't
it's
not
really
humorous,
but
it
did
make
me
laugh
and
I
was
I,
just
couldn't
believe
it.
I
looked
at
Orlando's
web
page
and
the
home
page
is
using
a
pirated
version
of
the
City
of
Burlington
logo
as
their
own
yeah.
F
It's
just
crazy
in
his
plea
to
the
city
council
dated
October
24th
2022
Orlando's,
owner
Mr
Mossman
reminded
the
city.
It's
critical
to
be
supportive
of
small
businesses,
but
I
feel
like.
He
only
means
his
small
business
since
I'm
not
allowed
in
the
right
of
way
and
since
the
noise
from
his
bands
drowns
out
other
sounds.
F
You
know
Mr
mossman's
response
is
regarding
his
violations
in
his
letter
to
the
council.
Leave
me
feeling
that
he's
gotten
used
to
operating
on
the
belief
that
it's
easier
to
ask
forgiveness
than
permission,
and
so
I,
just
you
know,
I
as
a
small
business
owner
who
complies
with
the
rules
as
they're
set
out
for
me,
I'm
just
completely
befuddled
and
disturbed
by
this.
So
thank
you
for
hearing
me
tonight.
AK
Foreign,
that
was
actually
the
entirety
of
what
I
presented.
I
do
again
really
just
hope
that
you
folks
had
an
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
the
documents
that
are
uploaded
to
board
docs.
They
really
do
provide
all
of
the
detail
for
the
situation
and
I
was
hoping
to
spare
your
time
in
person
by
giving
you
a
little
bit
of
more
information
than
you
probably
needed
in
advance.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
consideration
and
I
will
leave
the
last
two
minutes.
R
AH
AH
AH
Okay,
second
of
all,
we
provide
live
music
to
Burlington.
Okay,
we
have
a
patio
we
open
during
covid
I
opened
this
business
eight
months
before
covid
and
when
kovit
hit,
we
had
no
other
option
to
do
anything
but
open
the
patio.
Now,
because
of
this,
we
have
built
our
brand
on
the
patio
we've
built
it
with
live
music
or
we've
put
ticketed
events,
our
first
ticket
event.
We
donated
the
proceeds
to
the
Howard
Center.
AH
Okay,
I
mean
this
is
I'm
just
very
frustrated
with
this
and
and
with
the
the
complainant,
the
second
complaint,
and
about
the
her
business
with
the
the
tours.
That,
in
fact,
is
private
property.
It's
not
a
through
way.
It's
a
private
property
between
all
three
building
owners
that
have
a
they
have
a
agreement
between
of
what
times
that
they
are
allowed
to
have
tables
out
there.
AH
It
includes
flatbread,
it
includes
the
building
that
is
on
the
front
of
College
Street,
that
is
owned
by
Nick,
who
I
also
was
going
to
get
a
letter
from
as
well
I
haven't
gone
in
in
time.
I
was
going
to
put
it
on
the
board
dogs,
but
I
haven't
got
it
yet,
and
the
Bennington
Potters
our
stage
is
placed
there.
We
have
an
agreement
with
the
Bennington
Potter's
people.
They
are
okay
with
it,
the
one
loss
of
landowners
and
the
flatbread.
AH
Our
business
not
only
benefits
us.
It
benefits
musicians,
our
staff,
okay,
flatbread,
the
blue
cat,
which
is
another
restaurant
that
benefits
from
our
music
and
it's
we're
being
attacked
by
this
I
hope.
You
guys
all
read
the
letter
I
sent
in
to
each
council
member
individually,
I
sent
it
to
the
mayor.
I,
put
letters
of
recommendation
with
50
signatures.
I
got
in
one
day
of
musicians
that
perform
there
and
I'm
I'm.
Just
I
just
don't
understand
how
we
were
in
a
downtown
district
or
in
the
same
district
as
Church
Street.
AH
The
map
that
I
attached
here
goes
all
the
way
down
to
Battery
Street.
That
is
the
downtown
district
and
we're
right
in
the
heart
of
it.
We
should
be
given
the
same
opportunity
to
do
business
as
everybody
on
Church,
Street,
okay
and
it's
unfair.
It's
discriminatory
and
I'm
very
I'm,
just
I'm,
just
infuriated
with
the
fact
that
we
have
even
come
to
this
point
when
there's
all
this
other
crime
in
the
city.
That's
going
on
right
now,
yeah
allocated
15-minute
times
to
gun
crime,
but
30
minutes
to
this
with
one
complaint.
AH
There's
one
concurrent
complaint
they'll
complaint
from
2020
was
before
we
bought
a
7
500
sound
system
to
help
with
the
decimal
levels.
Okay,
this
is
I
mean
this.
Is
it's
it's
very.
It's
a
simple
situation.
It's
a
business,
we're
in
the
downtown
district.
We
should
be
given
the
same
opportunity
to
do
business
as
another
business
across
the
street,
which
I
pulled
the
permits
from
and
they're
a
permit
to
do.
Outdoor
live,
music
goes
to
12,
30
pm
or
12.
30
a.m
rather,
and
I've
got
witnesses
here.
I've
got
regular.
Customers
that
enjoy
live.
AH
AH
It
you
know
it's
a
live
music
things
go
over
the
time
limit,
it's
unintentional,
it's
unintentional,
and
the
point
of
the
matter
is
if
we
were
given
the
same
exact
permit,
that
I
have
requested
that
you
have
given
other
businesses
on
Church
Street
that
do
the
same,
live
music
that
host
the
same
bands
that
play
there.
We
would
not
even
be
having
this.
AH
And
this
is
a
calendar
of
the
meetings
and
the
bands
that
we've
had
the
times
they've
ended.
I
was
gonna,
put
this
on
the
dock,
but
I
just
printed
out
right
before
we
got
here
and
I
mean.
Are
you
guys
really
gonna
shut
down
a
local
business
that
has
15
employees
that
we
open
pre-covered
for
outdoor
live
music
and
give
Art?
Because
one
person
is
currently
complaining
because
we
went
over
20
minutes.
AH
You're
gonna
shut
down
a
business
because
of
that,
because
if
you
pull
this
permit,
this
business
will
end
and
because
it
doesn't
suffice
it
you
can't
survive
without
the
patio
and
I'm
just
frustrated
with
the
whole
matter,
and
that's
essentially
where
we're
at
that's
essentially
where
we're
at
so.
If
you
guys
pull
the
permit,
we
shut
down,
it
doesn't
affect
just
me.
It
affects
the
50
people
that
sign
this
waiver
that
play
music
that
we
pay
to
play
there.
It
affects
the
15
employees
I
currently
have
it
affects
me
that
spent
the
past
five
years.
AH
Doing
this
and
creating
a
patio
during
covid
we
stayed
open.
We
were
the
only
place
that
could
possibly
try
to
stay
open
and
we
did
and
we
managed
to
do
it
with
the
patio,
and
it
wasn't
just
me
that
created
it
was
the
50
people
that
signed
this.
This
form
50
other
people
that
play
music.
They
don't
just
come
and
they're,
not
just
local.
They
come
from
afar.
They
come
from
Massachusetts
Connecticut
visitors
of
the
city
come
to
our
patio
to
enjoy
live
music
and
that's
what
we
do.
We
have
live
paintings.
AH
AL
AM
AM
Now
that
the
pandemic
has
slowed
down
at
least
but
I
just
want
to
speak
to
you
know
the
pandemic.
On
that
note
really
provided
a
struggle
for
all
sorts
of
businesses
and
for
musicians.
You
know,
I'm
a
business
owner
myself,
I
own
a
couple
bands
and
manage
a
couple
bands,
and
it
was
incredible
the
the
hardships
that
musicians
face
during
that
time
are
still
facing
coming
out
of
it.
Events
a
place
like
Orlando's
that
was
able
to
you
know
kind
of
face.
What
are
we
going
to
do?
AM
Are
we
going
to
shut
down,
or
can
we
provide
an
outdoor
opportunity
for
music
to
kind
of
still
Thrive
and
people
could
gather
in
small
numbers
and
spaced
out
safely?
It
allowed
a
safe
place
for
musicians
to
to
both
you
know,
work
on
their
their
craft
and
continue
their
job,
but
also
to
continue
to
pay
their
rent
and
I
know
a
number
of
musicians
from
out
of
state.
You
know
that
would
hole
up
in
their
house
for
a
week
or
15
days.
AM
Whatever
the
guideline
was
at
the
time
and
and
make
sure
that
they,
you
know,
I'll
wrap
this
up
quickly.
You
know
reached
reached
a
safe
space,
passed
a
couple
negative
tests
so
that
they
could
travel
here
to
also
bring
their
craft
to
the
city,
and
it's
it's
been
an
amazing
thing
that
this
club
has.
A
You
Mr
Mossman,
if
you
do
have
items
that
you
wanted
to
have
submitted.
You
can
do
that
this
evening.
If
you
have
items
that
you
wanted
to
give
to
Lori
and
just
ran
out
of
time,
well
I'm,
just
asking
if
you
have
it,
if
you
I'm,
just
letting
you
know
we,
we
will
have
an
opportunity
for
rebuttal,
Miss
Bushnell.
If
is
there
anything
that
you
would
like
to
offer
for
in
the
couple
of
minutes
that
remain
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you,
Mr
MossMan,
oh.
AK
Yes,
I
would
like
to
just
briefly
bring
the
council's
attention
to
a
couple
of
things
in
Mr
mossman's
testimony.
He
stated
that
the
cutoff
time
is
11..
It's
not
the
cutoff
time
is
11
p.m.
On
Friday
nights
and
Saturday
nights,
the
cutoff
time
is
10
p.m,
10
30
p.m.
On
all
other
nights,
this
seems
to
be
the
sticking
point,
as
Thursdays
tend
to
go
to
11
o'clock.
AK
That
seems
to
be,
if
you
look
at
the
information
that
I
provided
in
my
letter,
that
seems
to
be
the
night
where
things
go.
The
latest
and
I
would
just
like
to
point
out.
You
know
things
do
happen.
I
previously
worked
at
music
festivals
for
13
years
and
I
know.
Music
goes
over
all
the
time.
All
of
the
dates
that
I
provided
with
time
overages
was
when
a
band
started
playing
an
encore
after
11
pm,
I'm
totally
fine.
AK
If
you
go
over
two
minutes
here,
three
minutes
there,
when
your
last
song's
going
too
long,
I
understand
that
happens.
It's
when
you
deliberately
start
playing
another
song
after
11
pm
that
I
took
offense
and
I
that
I
felt
like
they
were
being
deliberately
deliberately
ignoring
the
guidelines
which
they
requested.
They
requested
these
hours
in
their
entertainment,
permit
application
which
they
sent
to
the
council
and
ultimately
was
approved
by
the
license
committee
and
the
full
Council.
AK
A
AH
I,
that's
not
true.
I
didn't
request
those
hours.
Those
were
the
hours
that
were
given
to
me.
I've
requested
the
hours
of
another,
similar
business.
That
is
a
block
away
from
us,
which
is
12,
30
p.m
and
I
pulled
that
permit,
and
that
is
exactly
what
you
guys,
as
a
council
gave
that
business
I.
Don't
understand
why
one
bird
one
business
that
is
one
block
away
in
the
downtown
district
gets
the
opportunity
to
do
business
where
I
can't
do
business
in
those
hours
and
that
that
is
basically
the
bottom
line.
AH
It's
biased
it's
discriminatory
to
our
business
and
it's
just
it's
just
it's
not
fair
and
I
actually
said
this
to
counselor
Shannon.
When
she
came
down
to
do
her
investigation-
and
she
told
me
quote:
life
isn't
fair
and
I
will
swear
on
that
and
I've
witnessed
here
to
that
conversation
that
she
did
say
that
to
man.
A
B
AH
Yeah,
so
we
do
have
a
sound
engineer.
We
don't
have
one
every
night
because
it's
hard
to
find
people
to
work
in
this
industry
right
now
we
have
a
door
guide
and
who
I
have
right
now,
our
main
door
guy
that
works
every
weekend
and
he
is
in
control
of
the
patio
and
most
nights.
We
are
okay
and
we
do
abide
by
the
rules.
It's
not
intentional
that
the
Vans
go
over.
Fans
have
set
lists.
They
don't
intention
when
they're
playing
music,
they
don't
contend
they're
all
aware
of
the
11
pm
cut
off.
AH
They
don't
intend
to
go
over,
that.
You
know
and
sorry
and
on
Wednesday
Thursday
is
10
30.,
but
that's
not
an
intentional
thing
that
happens.
It
just
happens.
It's
the
nature
of
the
business,
the
nature
of
live
music
and
you
know
I'm,
usually
I
personally
sit
up
in
the
lobby
and
host
and
help
with
Tom
and
he
can
attest
to
that.
But
lately
because
we
are
so
under
staff
right
now,
I've
been
having
a
bartend,
because
we've
can't
find
people
to
work
and
I've
been
down
in
the
bar.
AH
A
lot
of
the
nights
and
I've
been
having
to
bartend
and
make
drinks
for
the
servers
for
the
patio
and
I
haven't
been
able
to
be
up
there,
but
that's
because
we
can't
find
people
to
work
right
and
that's
the
problem.
A
lot
of
our
servers
don't
want
to
work
anymore
because
they
can
only
sell
alcohol
out
there
till
11
pm
when
our
permit
is
still
2
A.M,
but
no
one
wants
to
sit
up
there
in
silence.
AH
You
can't
when
the
bands,
when
we
shut
down
and
we
can
hear
bands
from
Church
Street
blasting
down
the
alleyway,
but
we
have
to
shut
down
and
servers,
don't
want
to
work
there
anymore
because
they
can
take,
but
they
can
only
sell
drinks
for
three
hours.
While
the
bands
play
so
we're
understaffed.
It's
a
whole
problem.
We
should
be
given
the
same
opportunity
as
any
other
business
in
Burlington
to
sell,
live
music
and
drink
some
food
as
another
business
I
mean
it's,
it's
just
it's
that
simple.
AH
It's
it's
not
there's
no
other
area
that
would
be
essentially
like
telling
flatbread.
They
can
sell
alcohol
till
midnight,
but
we
can
sell
till
2am
I
mean
it's
a
permit.
Everybody
should
be
given
the
same
opportunity
in
Burlington
as
a
small
business
as
another
business.
We've
never
had
a
violation
from
the
DLC.
We've
never
had
a
violation
from
the
fire
marshal.
We've
never
had
the
police.
There,
we've
never
had
a
fight.
We've
never
had
an
instance
of
over
consumption.
AH
We've
never
had
any
tickets,
nothing,
no,
no
noise
violations,
nothing
and
it's
just
it's
just
it's
basically
I'm
I'm,
sorry
that
I'm
getting
a
little
frustrated
but
I
feel
like
this
is
like
a
personal
Vendetta
against
me.
When
I
run
a
clean
business
and
I've
done
absolutely
nothing
wrong.
Yes,
I
have
had
a
band
go
over,
it
was
unintentional,
it
wasn't
what
I
planned
to
do.
It's
not
like
it's
not
like.
AH
A
AA
A
J
J
AH
It
you
know
rip
the
plug
out
of
the
speakers
if
they're
going
two
minutes
over,
if
that's
really
what
it
takes
for
me,
you
know
it's
a
live
band,
they're,
doing
a
performance
for
a
full
patio.
People
are
enjoying
it.
People
travel
to
come
to
the
end.
If
that's
really,
what
it's
necessary
for
me
to
do.
I
will
do
that,
but
time
I
should
be
given
the
same
permit
as
a
business
across
the
street
and
I
don't
want
to
throw
any
other
businesses
under
the
bus.
AH
I
mean
you
guys
all
know
the
permit
that
I'm
talking
about
I,
don't
understand
why
we
as
a
business
that
has
never
had
any
violations
in
on
any
manner,
can't
get
that
same
exact.
Permit
it's
discriminatory.
It
really
is,
and
I
I
really
I
really
am
upset
about
it.
You
know,
because
I
work
very
hard
for
this
business
angle.
They
open
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
musicians,
employees,
staff
that
have
been
there
for
a
while
that
do
the
same.
AH
AH
AH
AH
S
S
We
are
working
with
a
sound
engineer
to
build
a
collapsible
stage
to
include
ample
back
soundboard
to
take
into
consideration
the
complaints
of
the
past
from
Neighbors
at
the
end
of
the
Lawson
Lane
alleyway
I
do
I
do
remember
that
we
were
told
this
I.
Don't
know
where
this
particular
thing
was
excerpted
from
could
could
I
have
Miss
Bushnell
just
respond
to
that
sure.
S
S
AH
On
on
on
another
note,
just
this
past
season,
not
just
basically
as
a
courtesy
to
our
neighbors
and
flatbread
and
other
businesses
in
the
area
to
control
the
sound
volume
we
purchased
a
brand
new
wireless
sound
system
with
all
new
speakers
monitors,
it
controls
the
decimal
levels
better.
We
can
walk
around
and
control
the
volume
we
don't
have
to
run
up
to
the
sound
system
like
we
used
to,
because
everybody
was
out
on
the
patio
hooked
bands
up
to
speakers
and
played
now.
We
have
a
full
sound
system.
S
So
how
would
we
know
that
these
sound
and
per
the
the
it
looks
to
me,
and
my
memory
as
well
is
that
you
had
pledged
to
us
that
you
were
going
to
to
create
this
collapsible
stage
and
with
the
sound
board
in
order
to
address
what
you
acknowledged
was
a
noise
problem
in
the
area?
Yes,
and
how
would
we
know
that
that
was
conditioned
on
you
getting
hours
that
I
don't
actually
know
where
the
evidence
is
that
you
requested
a
permit
for
12
30.,
I
I,
don't
see.
AH
S
S
AH
AH
AH
S
Did
you
at
any
time
tell
the
license
committee
or
the
the
full
either
the
subcommittee
of
three
people
or
this
board,
which
is
the
whole
license
committee,
that
you
would
only
be
a
building
those
new
sound
features
if
you
were
given
longer
hours
that
extended
beyond
the
applications
that
we
have
before
us
and
Beyond
the
permit
that
was
given?
Yes,.
AH
S
AH
AH
AH
AH
K
AH
M
AH
For
sure,
so
that's
actually
a
little
bit
of
a
conflict
for
me,
because
my
lease
ends
December
1st
for
my
business
and
if
this
permit's
pulled
I'm
I
have
to
close
the
business
down.
I
can't
survive
functioning
without
the
patio
and
without
the
live
entertainment,
because
that's
what
we've
built
our
brand
on,
you
know
for
our
customers
and
everything.
So
that
essentially,
is
what's
gonna
happen.
A
W
Thank
you
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thanks
for
your
letter
and
I'm,
sorry
that
you
were
not
able
to
submit
your
paper
because
I
think
those
are
relevant
too,
so
that
we
read
them
all
and
have
a
better
understanding.
I
think
any
way
we
can
do
that
I
think
it
will
be
better.
You
can
submit
those
as
well,
please,
but
I
wanted
to
Circle
back
also
to
let
you
know
that
she
may
not
be
the
only
complainant.
W
There
are
also
all
the
letters
that
we
have
received
about
your
business
and
some
behaviors
that
are
not
relevant
to
the
permits
that
you
receive
I
just
wanted
you
to
understand
that
too,
and
also
to
say
that
this
is
and
also
to
ask
the
license
committee
first,
why
was
his
business
not
given
the
Equitable
time
closure
than
another
business?
That's
just
one
block
away!
A
P
S
I
think
we
did
have
some
discussion
at
the
full
license
committee
board.
So
when
this
came
up,
I
was
not
a
member
of
the
license
committee,
but
I
would
just
say
kind
of
generally
how
the
license
committee
works
is
we
we
do
look
at
the
individual
establishment.
We
look
at
the
individual
circumstances
to
determine
the
the
appropriate
hours
for
any
given
establishment
and
also
I
would
draw
your
attention
to
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
minutes
in
our
packet,
so
back
in
August,
8
2020
the
license
committee.
S
There
was
a
sworn
complaint
back
in
August
2020
for
Orlando's.
There
was
a
motion
to
mostly
it
says,
motion
to
urge
The
Establishment
to
adhere
to
current
entertainment.
Permit
hours
with
end
time
of
11
pm
for
a
60-day
probation
period.
Should
there
be
further
complaints
of
public
hearing
will
be
scheduled.
S
That
made
it
unanimous,
as
they
were
the
only
two
there.
So
there
is
that
and
then
on
October
14th,
we
have
a
note.
Matt
Paradis
expressed
his
frustration
with
the
volume
of
the
music
coming
from
Orlando's,
Bar
and
Lounge
over
the
course
of
the
summer,
stating
that
it
is
affecting
his
quality
of
life
sleep
and
inhibiting
his
ability
to
teach
over
Zoom
to
his
students.
S
Sean
Beauvais
states
that
his
organization
attempted
to
contact
Matt
parodies
to
discuss
the
issue
separately
to
hopefully
avoid
going
to
a
hearing.
So
we
have
there's
a
lot
of
minutes
here
and
there's
a
long
history
that
had
led
to
this
I.
Don't
actually
recall
him,
perhaps
another
member
might
recall
I,
don't
read,
recall
a
recent
request
for
later
hours,
but
maybe
somebody
else
does.
W
W
Thank
you
all
right
and
Mr
Blossom
right,
I
also
wanted
to
Circle
back
about
the
letter
you
sent
to
the
city
council.
It
seems
a
city
councilor,
come
came
to
your
establishment.
To
do
some
type
of
investigation
and
I
wanted
to
know.
Was
this
recent?
Was
it
about
this
complaint
or
was
this?
Was
that
before
so.
AH
AH
Yes,
I
stepped
away
from
the
bar
to
come
up
to
the
lobby
to
speak
with
her
in
a
cordial
Manner
and
the
band
wasn't
playing.
The
band
had
ended
at
11,
in
which
it
did
her
complaint
was
that
she
said
that
someone
had
complained
about
I
mean
we
know
who
the
complainant
is
at
this
point
of
time
that
someone
had
to
complained
and
that's
why
she
was
coming
to
investigate.
AH
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
was
we
weren't
playing
music
live
entertainment
at
after
11
pm,
we
had
a
one
speaker
from
our
house:
music,
the
same
music
we
play
inside
the
bar
for
our
customers
on
the
patio,
the
same
customers.
Why?
Why
are
we
granted
a
permit
permitted
from
the
liquor
committee
to
sell
alcohol
till
2
A.M
on
the
patio
when
we
have
to
sell
it
in
silence
to
our
customers?
W
AK
A
Thank
you,
counselor
Chang
we're
over
our
30
minute
limit.
So
if
there
are
no
other
counselors
with
questions,
we
will
adjourn
this
hearing
and
the
matter
as
I
had
mentioned
will
be
taken
under
advisement.
The
council
will
be
entering
into
deliberative
session
pursuant
to
one
VSA
312
E
and
we'll
issue
a
written
decision
to
the
parties
within
30
days.
Thank
you
to
the
parties
for
being
here
this
evening.
Can.
A
G
A
Okay,
our
last
item
on
our
deliberative
agendas,
8.06,
which
is
an
ordinance
chapter,
14,
solid
waste,
Article,
1
and
general
update
of
the
solid
waste
and
recycling
requirements
regarding
separation,
storage
and
collection
for
this
item.
Once
again,
I'll
turn
to
the
chair
of
the
ordinance
committee
councilor
Travers,
and
did
want
to
note
also
that
I
do
believe.
We
have
director
not
sure
if
we
do
director
DPW
director
Chapin
Spencer
with
us,
maybe
not
counselor,
Travers.
L
A
L
Well,
I'm
glad
director
Spencer
is
here.
We
are
here
in
large
part
because
of
the
good
reasons
that
have
been
put
forth
by
his
Department
with
respect
to
the
proposal.
I
think
a
number
of
us
have
heard
those
reasons,
but
Dr
Spencer,
if
you'd
like
to
sort
of
give
us
a
reminder
and
take
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
folks
as
to
the
reasoning
for
this
it'd
be
great
to
hear
from
you.
Z
Great
thank
you,
councilor
Traverse.
We
were
pleased
to
work
with
the
ordinance
committee
to
address
two
main
issues.
One
was
that
we've
been
receiving
number
of
complaints
from
residents
in
the
city
about
litter,
wind
blown
litter
and
the
recycling
that
blows
from
uncovered
bins,
both
which
clutter
the
city,
as
well
as
ruin,
recyclable
resources
when
they
get
wet
and
leave
the
recycling
stream
and
two
we
have
had
several
injuries
from
our
employees.
Z
The
toters
have
an
automatic
lift
feature
on
the
trucks
so
that
our
employees
don't
need
to
lift
the
toters,
but
the
bins
do
not
have
a
similar
feature
and,
as
a
result,
our
employees
spend
a
lot
of
the
time
lifting
the
bins
that
can
vary
in
weight
and
we'd
like
to
keep
our
Workforce
safe
and
the
city
clean.
There
are
some
other
cleanup
items
in
the
proposed
ordinance,
but
the
main
item
here
is
requiring
toters
and
thanks
to
counselor
Traverse.
L
Thanks
director,
Spencer
I
would
just
say
on
the
ordinance
committee.
Thank
you
for
councilor
Paul
and
councilor
Hightower
for
their
work,
in
particular
on
this
matter.
In
the
ordinance
committee.
I
will
just
say
that
there
were
a
couple
particular
areas
that
we've
heard
concerns
about
from
constituents.
You've
touched
on
it
somewhat
director
Spencer
I
would
say
that
one
of
them
was
from
community
members
with
Mobility
concerns
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
the
updated
language
it
existed
in
there
already,
but
the
updated
language,
that's
in
the
ordinance.
L
Now
that
requires
that
the
department
of
the
city
for
those
neighbors
that
do
have
Mobility
concerns
with
respect
to
using
the
toters
that
the
city
will
work
with
those
neighbors
to
certainly
accommodate
those
concerns
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
speak
more
to
that
particular
issue.
Director
Spencer.
Z
Yes,
when
residents
contact
us
seeking
additional
support
for
serving
their
recycling,
we
will
work
with
those
residents
and
provide
the
services
necessary
to
make
sure
they're
served.
We
run
a
very
thin
operation.
We
have
four
four
staff
who
collect
recycling
five
days
a
week
and
we
cannot
provide
backdoor
service
for
everybody
in
the
city,
given
our
approach
but
on
a
need
basis,
we're
happy
to
work
with
individual
residents
and
if
counselors
have
any
constituents
in
need
of
special
assistance.
Please
have
them
reach
out
to
us.
L
Thanks
director,
Spencer
and
I
would
just
say
that
the
other
main
concern
that
we
heard
were
from
folks
who
live
on
streets
that
have
relatively
narrow,
green
belts,
who,
particularly
during
the
winter
months,
come
close
to
City,
plows
or
city
sidewalk.
Plows
Express
concerns
about
toaders
potentially
being
damaged,
especially
during
the
winter
months,
and
so
I
certainly
appreciate
the
ordinance
committee
making
the
effort
to
add
some
language
in
here.
L
That
would
obligate
the
city
that,
in
the
event,
City
equipment
or
Personnel
do
damage
a
totor
Beyond
repair
of
normal
from
normal
use
that
the
city
would
have
to
replace
that
tote
or
free
of
charge
for
the
resident
I.
Suppose
there
is
just
one
point
of
clarity
here,
which
is
that
there
is
a
version
of
the
ordinance
that
is
is
on
board
docs.
L
L
It
would
immediately
put
folks
who
don't
have
a
toter,
yet
in
violation
of
the
ordinance
at
issue,
so
I
personally
thought
that
an
effective
date
of
May
of
2023
would
allow
folks
an
opportunity
to
learn
about
this,
to
purchase
their
toters
and
as
well
for
individuals
who
have
Mobility
concerns
to
arrange
it
as
needed
and
as
required
by
the
city.
So
my
intent
here
was
to
actually
move
the
version
with
the
effective
date
of
of
May
of
2023
I.
L
Don't
know
if
I've
properly
done
that
to
be
honest
but
I
don't
know
if
an
amendment
is
is
further.
Amendment
is
an
order.
I
think
that's
the
version.
That
is
the
version
that's
on
there.
So
as
long
as
everyone's
on
board
that
that
is
the
version,
that's
been
moved.
Okay,
I
see
some
nodding
heads,
that's
all
I
have.
A
A
Seeing
none,
we
will
go
to
a
vote
on
the
motion
and
the
motion
was
to
waive
the
reading
adopt
the
resolution
as
amended
by
the
ordinance
committee,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed,
please
say
no
and
that
motion
passes
unanimously
and
that
completes
our
deliberative
agenda.
We
have
just
a
couple
more
items
and
that
is
item
number
nine,
which
our
committee
reports
are
there
counselors
who
wish
to
offer.
A
committee
report
counselor
Bergman.
K
So
your
your
Charter
change
committee
will
be
bringing
back
I
suspect
at
the
next
meeting,
but
depending
on
how
full
it
is,
it
could
get
kicked
over
three
Charter
changes
and
I
have
mentioned
two
of
them
in
reports.
First
is
the
all
legal
resident
voting
in
local
elections,
we're
pretty
happy
about
that
and
really
happy
about
the
work
that
the
ceto
office
and
Jillian
Natan
have
has
done
in
terms
of
the
Outreach
and
totally
appreciate
the
the
support
that
we've
gotten
from
counselor
Zhang.
K
In
addition
to
that,
there
is
as
well
pertinent
to
the
redistricting
conversation
that
we
had
a
flexibility
in
the
sighting
of
polling
places
that
we
will
be
bringing
back
and
that
I
think
will
make
our
job
a
little
bit
easier.
Maybe
I
think
I,
don't
know
if
it's
actually
implicated
in
the
work
that
we're
continuing
to
do,
but
at
least
we'll
have
that
flexibility.
K
So
the
idea
being
those
are
the
the
the
the
people
that
we
generally
elect,
and
you
know
in
the
in
the
course
of
our
March
elections,
so
that
those
three
will
be
coming
back
and
with
the
addition
of
the
redistricting.
We
will
hopefully
have
four
for
Charter
changes
on
the
March
ballot
and
I
just
want
to
thank
councilors,
Traverse
and
Carpenter
for
really
hard
work.
K
C
C
Thank
the
previous
Public
Safety
Committee
for
the
exhaustive
work
that
they
put
into
preparing
this
report
and
look
forward
to
continuing
that
conversation
as
well
as
at
our
next
meeting
discussing
the
gun,
violence
prevention
resolution,
so
I
will
have
that
meeting
scheduled
soon.
Thank
you
great.
L
The
ordinance
committee
will
be
meeting
on
November
22nd
at
4,
30
PM.
We
will
be
hearing
an
ordinance
referred
to
us
a
while
ago
with
respect
to
vacant
buildings
and
now,
as
of
this
evening,
we'll
be
taking
up
a
TDM
and
minimum
maximum
parking
requirements.
Looking
forward
to
seeing
folks
there
thank.
W
W
Yeah
two
I:
don't
we
will
be
ex.
We
will
be
also
having
a
discussion
about
the
creation
of
the
racial
Equity
inclusion
and
belonging
Commission,
because
it
was
part
of
the
resolution
that
created
the
position
and
it
was
it
tasked
the
committee
to
look
into
it.
This
is
just
discussion.
Nothing
is
coming
anytime
soon,
just
to
bring
community
members
to
see
what
what
what
they
think
and
also
we
will
be
receiving
some
updates
about
the
strategic
planning
for
that
was
commissioned
by
the
reib
committee.
Thank
you.
A
S
A
A
If
there
aren't
any,
we
can
move
on
to
council
president
updates,
there's
only
two
that
want
first,
is
that
we
did
have
one
person
who
has
expressed
an
interest
in
the
reparations
Task
Force
if
counselors
know
of
anyone
who
is
interested
or
anyone
listening
who
might
have
an
interest.
Please
let
me
know-
and
the
second
is,
that
it's
sort
of
a
pretty
exciting
we're
going
to
have
a
work
session
at
our
next
meeting
on
an
alternative
to
board
Docs.
So
there's
been
a
there's
been
some
that
have
gone
on
I.
A
Don't
know
why
we're
laughing
about
that
there
are.
There
are
a
couple
of
people
in
the
city
who
have
actually
done
the
tutorial,
we'll
get
the
chance
to
do
that
as
well
and
I
think
it's
pretty
exciting,
because
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
at
the
board
retreat
and
now
we'll
have
the
opportunity
to
potentially
Implement
a
new
program.
So
more
on
that
as
we
get
closer
to
the
meeting.
A
N
N
AL
N
There
will
be
a
substantial
expansion
of
the
market
from
from
last
year.
The
layout
goes
all
the
way
from
from
College
Street
to
the
almost
celebrated
to
City,
Hall
and
there'll
be
20
more
than
20
vendors
there
every
week,
the
first
weekend
looking
at
the
schedule,
it
starts
it's
a
Saturday
and
Sunday.
N
After
that,
all
the
way
through
Christmas
there
are
Friday
Saturday
and
Sunday
hours
and
I
think
the
final
week
there's
even
a
third
some
Thursday
hours,
there'll,
be
some
variety
of
different
businesses
from
week
to
week,
encourage
everyone
to
check
it
out.
It
was
a
big
success
last
year
and
hopefully
even
more
of
the
Public's
aware
of
it
this
year,
and
it
will
be
even
a
more
successful
way
for
many
of
our
new
small
entrepreneurs
to
be
introduced
to
the
community
during
the
during
the
holiday
season.
A
Just
would
ask
for
a
motion
to
intern
moved
by
councilor,
McGee
and
seconded
by
counselor
Zhang,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
adjourn,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
We
are
adjourned
at
10
16..
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
Our
next
meeting
is
two
Mondays
from
today
on
November
21st
I
hope
you
have
a
good
rest
of
your
evening.