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For
those
in
the
room,
there
are
exits
on
both
sides
of
the
rear
of
the
auditorium.
You
can
turn
right
or
left
to
exit
in
an
emergency
for
those
online.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
remotely.
We,
if
you
are
interested
in
speaking
on
any
item
on
the
agenda,
please
either
turn
your
camera
on
or
indicate
in
the
chat
that
you
would
like
to
speak
and
the
chair
will
call
on
you.
We
are
not
monitoring
the
chat
for
content.
A
D
Yes,
can
we
please
add
we
when
we
set
up
this
agenda,
we
were
not
sure
all
the
Planning
Commission
applicants
could
be
here
tonight,
so
we
did
not
schedule
an
executive
session,
but
now
we
believe
they
can,
although
they're
not
yet
all
here.
So
if
we
could
add
an
executive
session
on
discussing
appointments
to
boards
and
committees,
I'd
appreciate
it.
Okay,.
C
A
E
F
Good
evening
David
Laurier
Delaware
Street
South,
Burlington,
Vermont,
retired
veteran
Vietnam
era,
I
come
before
the
council
tonight,
I'm
trying
to
be
I've
already
told
the
city
manager
I'll
try
to
be
on
my
best
behavior.
It
is
not
my
intention
to
infuriate
or
insult
anyone,
but
Megan
knows
me:
sometimes
I
get
a
little
animated,
so
I
will
try
to
be
on
my
best.
Behavior
I
would
like
to
take
a
few
moments.
F
Comment
on
two
articles:
November
10th
issue
and
December
1st
I've
spent
all
weekend
rereading
these
articles
and
over
and
over
and
over
again
so
I'm
prepared
to
give
my
comments
this
evening
and
or
suggestions
without
anybody
else's
references
or
comments,
I'm
not
going
to
quote
any
unnamed
sources
nothing.
These
are
all
my
thoughts
first
item.
I
would
just
like
to
take
a
moment
on
is
the
if
I
can
find
it
well,
I'll
wing
it
now.
F
I,
look
at
the
existing
mode
of
transportation,
being
the
Williston
Road
Bridge
coming
over
here
to
South
Burlington
and
the
questions
I
have
relate
to
the
amount
of
people
that
go
that
way
every
day,
because
people
have
a
tendency
going
a
straight
line
to
try
to
go
the
shortest
distance.
So
pedestrians
or
cyclists
were
going
from
here
up
there
either
go
to
work
the
hospital
University
or
they're
going
shopping.
F
Okay,
are
they
going
to
visit
friends
and
then
returning
how
many
times
they
do
that
per
day
per
week
per
month
and
how
many
people
does
that
represent
for
a
monthly
slash,
yearly
figure?
So
I
look
at
that.
So
then
I
reviewed
that
beautiful
drawing
I
mean
the
drawing
of
that
land
bridge
gorgeous
I
mean
absolutely
gorgeous,
but
I
view.
The
location
is
kind
of
odd
Quarry
Hill
coming
down
here
and
Corey.
Hill
is
quite
a
distance
away
from
Willison
Road
myself.
F
Personally,
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
people
deviating
out
of
their
normal
path
to
go
over
there
to
come
down
that,
except
for
maybe
a
special
occasion,
I.E
an
event,
a
bicycle
race,
a
walking
running
race,
maybe
some
type
of
marathon,
etc,
etc,
et
cetera,
but
gorgeous
I
mean
beautiful,
but
man
14.5
million
dollars,
wow
I'll.
Look
at
that
I
said:
I
hope
you
got
a
I
hope
you
did
a
comprehensive
study
with
the
existing
real
people
that
Traverse
every
day
to
find
out
where
they're
going.
F
Okay,
that
said
now,
I'm
going
to
put
on
my
retired
IBM
mechanical
engineers,
hat
I
had
a
quarter
Century
career.
My
job
was
process
improvements,
mechanical
process
improvements,
I
did
things
I
created,
tooling
I
created
machines
that
improved
efficiencies
for
people
doing
manual
tasks.
That
was
my
job
and
then
in
my
last
five
years,
I
transitioned
to
high
level
I.T
like
Tim
Barrett,
does
I
always
kept
in
mind.
F
F
Their
job
is
going
to
be
made
easier
and
the
product
quality
will
be
improved.
That
was
our
mission,
so
my
whole
career
was
think.
Work,
smarter,
not
harder,
so
I'll,
look
at
that
structure
and
just
the
artist's
conception
leaves
me
with
a
lot
of
questions
based
upon
safety.
That
says
during
the
winter
months.
Will
that
be
a
heated
structure,
because
if
you
have
license
no
developing
up
there
on
that
structure,
the
wind
kicks
up?
F
You
flip
a
chunk
of
ice,
a
couple
pounds
or
better
now
it
lands
down
the
interstate
and
that
hits
a
vehicle
truck
car.
Whatever
accident
resulting
death,
resulting
city
of
South
Burlington
will
be
held
liable
for
all
incursions.
So
I
I
read
the
part
about
having
LED
lighting
gray.
Beautiful.
Put
up,
you
know,
like
you
said,
artwork
is
very
pretty
nice,
but
make
sure
that
it's
super
safe
for
anything.
So
it's
nothing.
No
debris
coming
down
off
that
structure
onto
the
Interstate,
because
boy
I've,
seen
stuff
fly,
go
right
through
windshields
and
on
death.
Results.
F
I
hope
that
a
team
of
Structural,
Engineers
and
mechanical
engineers
will
go
through
the
design
document
with
a
fine-tooth
comb
for
materials,
material,
strength,
vibration,
load
capacity.
It's
one
thing
to
have
five
people
going
across
it.
It's
a
much
different
thing.
If
you
extended
Burlington,
City,
Marathon
and
you've
got
500
people
going
across
it
or
you've
got
a
couple
thousand
bikes.
That's
a
lot
of
weight.
So
please
keep
all
of
those
I'd
love
the
council
to
percolate
those
kind
of
thoughts
and
keep
that
Forefront
of
your
mind,
safety,
safety,
safety.
F
Everything
was
shaking
and
at
that
time
I
was
repairing
microscopes,
so
I
had
to
help
them
the
building.
They
tore
down
whole
outside
wall
well
running
alongside
the
rail
tracks,
because
that
border
the
ABN
property
they
had
to
go
way
down
in
the
ground
and
put
in
sound
deadening,
different
layers
of
materials.
They
then
took
building
973
and
suspended
the
whole
building
on
Springs
and
air
cushions
just
like
they
have
at
NORAD
in
Colorado
to
isolate
the
whole
manufacturing
floor
from
vibrations.
I
was
there.
F
That
was
the
only
way
they
could
get
it
to
stop
shaking,
because
every
time
train
came
through,
we
wouldn't
feel
it,
but
the
machines
felt
it
and
they,
and
over
here
every
day,
with
different
weight
loads
going
on
the
interstate.
It
sets
up
vibrations
rattles,
the
concrete
it
rattles.
A
structure
makes
a
steel
ring.
When
you
hear
that
term
ringing
steel,
that's
what
that
is
harmonic
frequencies
of
different
pitches
cause
different
things
to
happen.
That
building
will
vibrate.
That
structure
will
vibrate
you
go
over
the
whiskey
Bridge.
You
ever
felt
a
wiggle
over
there.
F
F
They
then
told
me
that
the
city
of
South
Burlington
has
given
every
three
years
the
comprehensive
plan
from
Green
Mountain
Power,
which
incorporates
increased
usage
workloads
capacity.
How
strong
the
grid
is
ETC.
What
types
of
alternate
forms
of
energy
may
be
used,
how
they're
going
to
adjust
it,
and
he
assured
me
they
have
several
layers
to
their
grid.
Vermont
is
pretty
well
protected.
F
Read
that
article
and
read
that
article
and
it
frustrated
me
to
the
point
where
it
was
filled
with
a
lot
of
opinion,
not
scientific
data,
not
from
qualified
sources
that
are
verifiable.
It
was
just
General
opinion
and
I'm
like
I.
Don't
work
like
that.
I
work
from
facts
you
show
me
data
show
me.
Scientific
studies
show
me
what
we
need
to
do
so.
The
thing
was
which
I
I
was
hurt
when
I
made
the
comment
about
requiring
mandating
all
homes
to
be
converted
to
Alternative
Energy
Source
I'll,
look
at
myself
I'm.
F
That's
good
for
another
20
years,
I
made
it
30
before
I
had
to
spend
several
thousand
bucks,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
that
again.
I'm
getting
kind
of
elderly
I,
don't
presume
I'll,
be
there
much
more
than
maybe
10
years
before
my
son
said:
okay,
Dad
you're
going
the
old
folks
home.
You
know
you
can't
be
there
by
yourself
much
longer.
F
Renovations
some
homes
in
South
Burlington
will
need
to
be
kind
of
partially
torn
apart
to
get
their
heating
systems
out
to
get
something
new
in
there.
It's
an
expensive
process
when
you're
trying
to
convert
something
so
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
new
construction
hasn't
been
built
yet
great,
have
a
ball
and
any
organization
that
volunteers,
but
if
you're
going
to
do
it
to
the
residences,
especially
elderly
people,
you're
gonna
have
to
give
them
a
you
have
to
sweeten
the
pot
so
to
speak.
If
it
means
another.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
That's
all
I
want
to
say,
and
hopefully
you'll
give
it
to
consideration
for
future
endeavors
and
one
of
the
final
comments.
Market
Street
looks
nice
I'm
a
little
Disturbed,
there's
no
no
decorations
on
Dorsey
Street,
which
there
should
be
and
there's
nothing
on
Williston
Road.
That's
it
so
to
see
pretty
decorations.
I'm
gonna
go
to
St
Albans
and
we'll
look
at
their
park
because
their
park
is
nice.
I
wish
we
had
a
Christmas
tree
here.
Thank.
G
B
H
A
F
To
top
off
my
resume
over
at
IBM
I
have
two
patents
on
file.
Every
project
I
ever
built
and
I
built
automated
machineries,
I
use,
lasers
and
robots
and
they're
all
in
production,
and
here
Bromont,
Austin
Texas.
So
everything
I
came
up
with
to
improve
people's
lives
and
their
jobs
worked,
I
did
ergonomics
and
I
was
successful,
and
then
they
decided
you
paid
too
much
you're
out
of
here.
C
A
F
To
you
to
celebrate,
oh
once
in
a
while,
and
maybe
once
a
month
once
a
quarter,
it
would
be
lovely
if
you
would
reinstitute
a
coffee,
clutch,
coffee
and
refreshments
an
hour
before
the
meeting
and
then
to
engage
I
wish
all
South
Burlington
residents
would
come
to
this.
This
room
should
be
filled,
should
be
filled.
Every
council
meeting
I,
don't
care
how
mundane
the
agenda
is.
They
should
be
here
to
show
support
for
you
guys
you
shouldn't
I
have
to
operate
and
talk
to
nobody.
A
E
E
I
A
D
On
behalf
of
the
staff,
thank
you
all
for
coming
so
I
do
have
some
updates
to
start
Paul's,
not
here
yet,
but
wanted
to
share
that
our
committees
are
hard
at
work,
starting
kicking
off
the
comprehensive
plan
and
providing
feedback
to
the
Planning
Commission
on
what
they
would
like
to
see
in
the
next
version.
So
you
all
will
see
that
in
your
liaison
roles
and
also
see
our
community
outreach
plan
roll
out
in
the
next
couple
of
months.
D
D
I
also
want
to
share.
Tom
is
here
that
our
stormwater
team
is
now
almost
full
Marissa
and
Monica.
Both
started
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
which
is
great
I,
do
want
to
share
that
they
one
of
the
tasks
they
quickly
jumped
into
was
the
overseeing
the
testing
pits
at
feral
dog
park.
We've
heard
a
lot
about
feral
dog
park
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
Unfortunately,
it
does
look
like
the
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
to
infiltrate
water
into
those
soils.
D
It's
gonna
be
a
fun
night,
guys
folks
have
probably
read
in
the
news
that
we
have
gone
through
quite
a
rash
of
odd
fire
occurrences
in
the
last
couple
of
week
or
so,
and
our
fire
department
did
provide
Mutual
Aid
to
both
the
structure,
fires
and
Winooski
and
Burlington
over
the
weekend,
and
we
were
happy
to
offer
that
support.
Tim
I
thought
you
would
want
a
quick
update
on
chargepoint.
We
have
some
interesting
data
on
that.
D
In
November
we
had
71
unique
users
at
our
chargepoint
accounts
down
from
83
in
October,
so
a
little
down,
but
we
also
had
a
number
of
big
events
in
October
that
may
have
driven
some
of
that
use.
We're
averaging
about
242
sessions
a
month
before
I
get
to
Holly's
fun,
stuff
and
a
lot
of
fun
stuff.
I
do
want
to
share
that.
I
sent
you
all
an
email
about
this,
but
officially
announced
to
the
community
that
Martha
machar
is
our
new
Finance
director.
She
will
be
taking
on
some
of
the
roles.
D
Andrew
played
and
will
also
be
our
city
treasurer.
We
did
talk
with
our
Auditors
and
they
are
comfortable
with
that
appointment
as
well.
So
with
your
approval
on
the
consent
agenda,
I'm
really
happy
to
welcome
Martha
to
that
role
and
then,
finally,
a
fun
upcoming
things
illuminate
Vermont,
December,
16th
and
17th.
Here
on
Market
Street
in
city
hall,
four
to
eight
those
two
evenings,
the
team
is
doing
amazing
work
to
line
up
a
really
wonderful
free
event
for
the
community.
I
hope
everyone
can
come
out
can.
A
I
just
encourage
people
to
volunteer
sure
you
can
go
online
and
volunteer
I'm,
helping
with
s'mores
for
a
couple
hours
on
Friday
night,
but
there's
lots
of
different
things
to
help
direct
people
or
yeah.
There's
s'mores
yeah
I
got
the
last
slot,
however,
but
there's
other
things
that
would
be
fun
to
do
and
I
think
I
would
encourage
people
to
be
part
of
that.
D
A
A
A
A
Item,
okay,
so
we'll
start
with
Charles
Johnson.
If
you'll
come,
you
can
either
stand
at
the
podium
or
sit
at
the
table.
Whatever
is
your
preference?
Okay
just
make
sure
the
green
light
is
a
bright
green
yeah.
It
looks
okay,
good.
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
all
right.
So
do
you
like
to
be
called
Charles?
Is
that.
A
J
I'm
looking
well
I'm
part
of
the
economic
development
committee
right
now,
I
had
originally
applied
to
be
on
the
drb
or
Planning
Commission,
so
I
want
to
reapply
for
that.
I'm.
A
civil
engineer
by
trade
and
I
want
it
to
be
in
a
committee
that
I
feel
like
I
could
do
a
little
bit
more
than
just
what
I'm
doing
in
the
economic
development
committee
a
little
bit
more
tailored
to
what
I
do
for
work.
J
It's
actually
a
conflict
with
economic
development,
because
it's
twice
a
month,
I
believe
on
Tuesdays,
every
other,
Tuesday
and
I
believe
that
conflicts
with
economic
development.
So
if
I
was
to
be
selected
for
this
position,
I
would
probably
not
be
part
of
Economic
Development
Committee.
If
that's
okay
with
you
guys,
but
yeah
I'm,
aware
of
the
commitment
I
used
to
do
two
nights
a
month
already,
when
my
previous
town
I
lived
in
I
did
two
months
two
nights
a
month
for
their
drb,
okay,.
B
J
C
J
Well,
so
the
city
I
believe
there's
a
lot
of
development
that
could
occur
in
the
city.
However,
we're
kind
of
restricted
on
I
think
Urban,
straw
sprawl,
you
know,
there's
some
very
big
natural
areas
that
we
want
to
preserve,
but
as
we
develop
I
think
vertically
to
us,
you
know
sustain
a
larger
population
in
the
city
that
creates
other
issues
with
like
storm
water
and
water
and
sewer
and
transportation.
J
J
J
Yeah
I
mean
so
not
to
call
out
specific
places.
You
know
specific
towns
because
work
for
them,
but
let's
say
you're,
going
north
or
or
Northwest
of
South
Burlington
and
there's
some
major
development
happening
now
in
that
town.
Right
and
there's,
you
know
it's
tough,
to
see
Farmers
fields
that
I
remember
when
I
was
growing
up.
You
know
just
outside
the
box
stores,
which
used
to
not
be
there
right
disappearing,
but
if
there
is
a
need
for
development
of
residential
area,
it's
tough
to
say
no.
J
When
there's
you
know
we're
growing
up
here
and
trying
to
find
an
apartment.
It's
tough
for
me
right
if
that
helps
lower
the
cost
of
living.
Here,
it's
tough
to
say
no
to
that
right,
but
preserving
that
Natural
Area
would
have
been
great.
You
know,
I
know,
I,
have
friends
that
used
to
go
hunting
out
in
that
area
and
that
now
you
can
so
it.
A
L
A
H
H
C
H
B
H
H
G
C
C
A
N
A
N
C
N
A
N
Well,
after
after
that,
20
years
in
oil,
refining
I
during
that
period,
I
got
married
and
we
had
kids
and
we
did
the
nanny
thing
for
a
little
while
and
decided.
We
weren't
loving
that
so
I've
been
home
with
my
kids
now
for
13
years
recently
thought
about
going
back
to
work
and
we
looked
at
it
and
it
really
wasn't
working
out
for
us,
so
I'm
kind
of
committed
to
staying
home
and
getting
the
kids
through
school
and
I
have
time
available.
N
And
you
know
this
is
something
that's
you
know
it's
a
good
fit
and
the
time
commitment
isn't
a
problem.
As
far
as
the
the
background
I'm,
a
chemical
engineer
by
degree,
like
I,
said,
I
did
planning
board
before
so
I
have
lots
of
background
in
Reading
drawings
and
soil
reports
and
drainage
studies
and
all
that
good
stuff.
N
N
It's
real
it's
happening.
We
need
to
react
to
it.
If
we
don't
things
are
going
to
be
very
problematic,
not
so
much
for
us,
but
for
our
kids,
so
I
definitely
think
it's
something
we
have
to
look
at.
I
was
fully
in
support
of
the
change
you
just
made
with
the
new
building
heating
standard,
and
hopefully
the
planning
board
will
be
able
to
come
up
with
some
more
recommendations
on
things
that
we
can
do.
That
will
be
significant
and
impactful,
but
not
not
prohibitive,
for
the
community
to
implement.
C
N
E
N
E
N
N
C
K
B
N
Mostly
I
said:
I
bring
some
experience
with
having
done
a
lot
of
this
before
working
within
the
group.
Trying
to
get
the
recommendations
done,
I
mean.
Obviously
the
planning
board's
job
is
to
recommend
and
that's
that's
all
the
planning
board
can
really
do
is,
is
synthesize
the
information
try
and
come
up
with
some
best
practices
and
make
recommendations.
Implementation,
obviously,
is
left
up
to
you,
so
you
have
the
the
harder
role
in
that
in
deciding
what's
really
put
into
law
and.
N
I
mean
some
of
the
things
I
think
you
heard
before
and
I
think
it's
real
is.
We
know.
Development
is
a
thing
but
having
come
out
of
South
Jersey
as
a
lot
of
people
have
at
least
driven
through
New
Jersey,
and
we
don't
want
this
to
be
New
Jersey.
We
don't
want
sprawl.
The
the
borough
I
came
out
of
in
in
South.
Jersey
was
2.7
square
miles
and
there
was
not
an
open
lot
anywhere.
It
was
completely
built
out
and
had
been
for
decades.
N
We
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
that
balance
is
is
very
carefully
looked
at
because,
in
my
experience,
developers
are
there
to
make
money
period.
If
the
governing
body
doesn't
control,
that
will
end
up,
just
every
law
will
be
developed
and
we're
not
going
to
be
real
happy
with
where
we
ended
up.
O
O
College
I
have
worked
in
higher
ed
environments
as
an
administrator
for
the
past
11
years,
and
so
for
me,
you
know,
building
community
in
higher
ed
for
our
students
and
our
student
body
is
incredibly
important
and
I
see
this
potential
role
on
the
City
Planning
Commission
as
a
really
important
part
to
build
a
community.
We
heard
the
gentleman
earlier
at
the
very
at
the
earlier
start
of
the
meeting
talking
about
how
nice
other
towns
and
downtowns
looked
and
so
I
think
they're
a
need
for
community
and
drive
is
incredibly
important
there.
O
O
A
Because
I
don't
see
any
gray
hairs,
but
then
I
wear
glasses,
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
any
well.
Maybe
I
can
ask
you
in
terms
of
your
work
at
Champlain
and
obviously
you
haven't
been
there
11
years,
so
you've
worked
elsewhere
in
higher
ed
when
you
go
into
a
group
and
become
a
member
of
a
committee
or
a
commission.
O
O
If
not,
you
know
and
I
see
very
similar
with
the
City
Planning
Commission
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
specific
City
Planning
experience,
but
it's
also
important
for
me
to
go
and
learn
and
learn
on
my
own
and
bring
that
to
the
group
and
also
try
to
create
relationships
within
the
group
to
learn
from
other
folks
who
have
been
doing
it
for
much
longer
than
I
have
in
order
to
make
sure
I'm
giving
the
best
representation
for
folks
I'm
happy
to
you
know,
take
the
lead
and
organize
meetings.
I
do
that
consistently.
O
I
did
that
earlier
this
afternoon,
while
I
was
at
work
and
I'm
happy
to
bring
ideas.
If
and
when
needed
and
I'm
happy
to
you
know,
if
I
don't
have
a
particular
expertise
or
particular
passion
for
something
that
might
be
going
on
Happy
to
also
kind
of
sit
back,
add
ideas
if
and
when
desired,
but
also
happy
to
let
folks
take
the
lead
in
their
own
right.
C
B
Yes,
elements
of
community,
you
said
you
would
like
to
you
know,
bring
that,
based
on
your
experience
at
Champlain
College
to
the
to
the
you
know,
the
the
position
I
was
curious.
What
kinds
of
things
you
would
specifically,
you
know
Envision
in
what
community
means
with
regard
to
planning
a
city,
yeah.
O
B
O
O
In
those
nicer
looking
Town
Homes,
making
sure
that
you
know,
as
we
look
at
either
developments
or
more
single-family
homes
that
were
considering
what
kind
of
balance
of
opportunity
we're
providing
for
folks
both
what
kind
of
business
opportunities
we're
providing
for
folks,
there
could
be
opportunities
or
considerations
for
the
recreation
department
or
specific
holiday
commemorations
or
events
to
have.
Maybe
local
neighborhood
Gathering
points
and
consideration
of
areas
to
really
pump
up
the
downtown
area
and
to
make
kind
of
the
Market
Street
area
as
vibrant
as
humanly
possible.
P
P
Well,
you
know
I
think
it
starts
really
not
to
go
all
the
way
back,
but
I'm
originally
from
Texas
and
I
grew
up
kind
of
in
a
family
environment
that
really
emphasized
service
to
others.
And
so
my
grandfather
was
in
the
the
House
Representatives
in
Texas.
My
aunt
was
a
city
councilor
in
Austin
and
I.
P
C
P
C
P
E
E
P
That's
a
really
good
question.
I
think
I
think
that
I
I
will
be
one
of
a
team
and
it
won't
be
solely
up
to
me
to
make
decisions.
I
would
rely
on
the
other.
You
know,
commission
members,
but
I
think
that
really
grounding
my
Approach,
my
thought
process
and
data
and
research
and
kind
of
looking
historically
what
has
taken
place
or
what
we
need
to
consider
and
then
Translating
that
into
actionable
measurable,
objectional
objectionable.
You
know
goals
to
hopefully
bring
to
you
a
solid
plan.
P
P
K
B
E
So
you
live
on
Orchard,
Road,
right
yeah,
so
as
a
hypothetical,
let's
say
an
old
house
there.
Let's
say
it
burned
down
or
something
like
that.
It
was
like
a
double
lot
right,
yeah.
How
would
you
feel
if
somebody
proposed
to
put
like
four
small
homes
on
that,
as
opposed
to
one
single
family
home
where
there
that
was
there
before
so
effectively
increasing?
Like
the
the
number
of
dwelling
units
you
know,
density
in
that
area
is
that
the
kind
of
thing
you
think
would
be
amenable
to
that
neighborhood
or
to.
P
That
neighborhood,
absolutely
yeah
I
I,
really
feel
that
way
in.
In
fact,
I
think
I
feel
like
the
neighborhood
itself
is
very
supportive
of
one
another
and
and
has
a
certain
Outlook,
and
this
is
kind
of
a
digression.
But
over
the
summer
we
did
a
house
swap
with
our
neighbors
across
the
street
and
sold
our
homes
to
each
other
and
which
is
really
beneficial
because
we
had
you
know
we
probably
couldn't
afford
the
house
if
it
went
on
the
market,
and
so
they
were
looking
to
downsize.
P
We
wanted
to
upsize,
and
so
we
they,
you
know
they
were
kind
enough
to
consider
us
and,
and
then
we
made
it
work.
I
completely
believe
that
the
neighborhood
would
say
that
is
fine,
that
it's
for
the
betterment
of
the
community
and
I.
Get
that
there's,
there's
home
values
to
consider.
There's
safety
to
consider,
there's
traffic
to
consider,
but
knowing
who
I
know
in
the
neighborhood
I
think
they
would
be
all
for
it.
P
P
P
P
C
P
A
A
A
A
D
D
D
I
do
want
to
call
out,
especially
for
those
who
are
online,
that
we
have
our
entire
leadership
here
team
here
tonight,
so
we
have
Alana
and
Jennifer,
and
chief
Burke
and
Colin
and
Tom
and
Greg
and
Mike
and
chief
Locke
and
Donna
and
Paul
and
Martha
Lyons
and
Holly
and
Martha
machar,
and
it's
really
I
have
the
pleasure
of
talking
to
you
all
tonight.
But
this
is
really
a
team
effort
to
put
together
this
budget.
D
We
also
presented
this
budget
to
our
entire
staff
and
an
all-staff
meeting
on
Friday,
which
was
a
really
interesting
discussion.
They
had
really
great
questions
so,
hopefully
I've
fine-tuned.
The
presentation
a
bit
I
do
want
to
note
for
the
council
in
the
community
that
the
entire
we
were
doing
a
virtual
budget
book
this
year.
So
our
entire
budget
book
is
posted
on
the
website.
D
If
you
go
to
finance
budgets
and
then
fy24
the
link
is
here
in
the
presentation
you
can
find
all
of
the
materials
if
the
council
is
interested
in
an
actual
physical
book,
I'm
happy
to
make
that
for
you
as
well.
So
what
you're
going
to
hear
tonight?
This
is
the
overview
you're
going
to
hear
about
needed
investments
in
core
Municipal
Services,
a
needed
increase
in
tax
capacity
for
Capital.
D
We
heard
a
lot
about
that
at
the
arpa
presentations
last
Wednesday
night
you're
going
to
hear
about
our
continued
effort
to
come
out
of
lean
budget
years,
we're
going
to
give
you
some
options
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
here,
as
Helen
alluded
to
so
so
I'm
going
to
speed
through
some
of
it.
But
please
stop
and
ask
questions
if
I
skip
over
something
you're
interested
in
so
this
process,
as
we
said
at
the
all
staff
meeting,
budgeting
is
actually
is
really
a
year-long
process.
D
We
started
back
in
August
with
Martha,
starting
to
put
together
budget
spreadsheets
and
whatnot
in
September.
You
had
a
discussion
about
your
goals
for
this
budget.
You
really
focused
on
what's
been
historically
underfunded,
where
our
growth
has
exceeded
our
ability
to
meet
the
service
demands
of
the
community
and
ask
for
us
to
give
you
some
options
as
well
as
other
things,
so
our
team
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
looking
at
service
demands
and
where
we
really
felt
like.
D
We
were
not
meeting
the
community's
expectations
given
reductions
in
our
force
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
given
really
lean
budget
years
going
through
covid,
and
we
want
to
highlight
a
few
of
those
right
from
the
start,
because
you
will
see
them
later
on.
So,
for
example,
in
the
last
22
years
the
city
has
added
20
miles
of
New
Roads
without
adding
a
new
highway
position.
We
are
not
actually
prioritizing
that
this
year
we
are
prioritizing
a
new
parks
position,
because
that
is
what
we
hear
about
quite
quite
frequently
from
the
community.
D
You
heard
about
it
a
great
deal
at
the
arpa
discussion
last
week,
for
example
in
our
Police
Department
in
2020.
We
did
an
analysis
of
the
civilian
and
sworn
officer
team
we
needed
to
meet
the
community's
service
expectations.
We
have
yet
to
hit
that
Staffing
level,
so
that
recommendation
was
for
40
sworn
officers
and
10
20
and
10
civilians.
We
are
currently
under
that
at
37
in
our
recommending
restoring
a
number
of
those
positions
to
meet
the
community
demand
real
restore
some
of
our
specialized
services
and
plan
for
the
future.
D
You've
heard
a
lot
about
the
fire
department
in
the
last
couple
of
months,
so
we
did
make
Summit
investments
in
our
fire
service
in
FY
23,
with
the
addition
of
both
a
fire
chief
and
a
fire
marshal
previously.
Those
had
both
been
filled
by
one
person.
However,
we
still
really
struggle
to
meet
our
minimum
Staffing
of
eight
firefighters
per
shift.
To
do
that,
we
really
need
30
firefighters.
D
Right
now
we
have
29
staffed
and
a
result
as
a
result,
we're
seeing
really
high
overtime
numbers
to
make
that
minimum
Staffing
and,
in
fact,
mandatory
over
time,
which
means
we
are
calling
people
in
without
their
volunteered
consent.
Getting
to
that
30th
firefighter
will
hopefully
enable
that
well-being
to
improve.
D
Currently,
we
also
staff
a
single
ambulance,
and
what
we've
seen
in
our
data
over
the
last
number
of
years
is
that
our
medical
calls
are
being
responded
to
by
non-south
Burlington
employees.
In
fact,
20
almost
a
quarter
of
the
time
somebody
dials
9-1-1
for
medical
services
in
the
city,
a
non-south,
Burlington
ambulance-
is
responding,
so
we
are
making
a
proposal
to
address
that.
A
Okay,
my
question
was
about
the
overtime
and
is
there
ever
a
time
when
you
don't
have
overtime
I
mean,
can
you
really
staff
it's
very
expensive
and
I?
You
know
we
always
try
to
minimize
the
overtime,
but
both
for
police
and
fire.
It
seems
like
it's
part
of
the
design
and
and
I'm
just
curious.
If
that
is
the
way
it's
designed
and
that's
where
how
everybody
does
it
so
we
can't
strive
I
mean
you
can
strive
for
Less
overtime,
I
suspect,
but.
D
Sure
I'm
happy
to
answer
that,
but
Chief
you
may
want
to
start
coming
down
here.
So
when
you
are
Staffing
operations
that
staff
24
7
I.E
every
minute
of
every
day,
there
are
eight
firefighters
on
duty.
You
will
always
have
over
time,
because
one
person
calls
in
sick.
You
have
to
staff
up
that
person.
You
have
to
call
in
somebody
to
cover
that
shift.
Unlike
me,
I
call
in
sick.
Nobody
needs
to
cover
me.
It's
it's
fine.
D
These
guys!
Don't
really
need
me.
That's
the
secret
they're
they're,
really
the
experts,
so
we
will
always
have
overtime.
I,
think
the
challenge
we
are
experiencing
right
now
without
being
fully
staffed,
is
that
we
are
getting
to
the
point
where
we're
not
offering
overtime
and
people
are
signing
up
for
it
anymore,
84.
We
are
ordering
somebody
in
so
we
are
short
so
short
staffed.
They
are
so
tired,
they're,
not
volunteering.
D
We
are
telling
them
they
have
to
stay,
and
that
is
both
inappropriate
from
a
health
and
wellness
point
of
view
for
our
for
our
neighbors
and
our
teammates.
It's
also
expensive.
So
finding
that
balance,
where
we
can
add
staff
lower
overtime
costs,
is
the
sweet
spot,
but
we
will
always
have
overtime
and
police
and
fire.
What
did
I
miss
you.
R
You
I
mean
you're
always
going
to
have
some
overtime.
You
know
10
the
Staffing
factor,
which
is,
if
you
add
up
a
crude
leave.
You
know
everyone
is
given
so
much
vacation.
We
know
on
average
how
much
sick
time
somebody
uses.
We
need
10
people
on
10
people
assigned
to
a
shift
to
maintain
minimum
Staffing
with
a
the.
R
What
gets
us
is
the
vacancy
factor,
and
if
you
calculate
that
in
you
probably
need
an
11th
person
per
shift
in
order
to
maintain
a
and
almost
have
very
minimal
over
time,
you're
always
going
to
have
some
but
minimal
and
I.
Think
this
point
getting
to
10
gets
us
to
a
life
where
we
have
less
over
a
normal
amount.
What
the
crews
would
say
a
normal
amount
of
overtime
where
they
are
okay,
perhaps
volunteering
to
take
it
now.
No
one
volunteered,
almost
no
one
volunteers
to
take
it.
I
I
R
Just
blew
through
six
thousand
hours
as
a
November
30th,
so
no
so
it
it
will
get
a
little
bit
better
in
December.
So
as
of
December
1st,
or
so
we
had
two
employees
that
started
to
count
towards
minimum
Staffing
new
employees.
So
they've
got
enough
training
and
Coach
minimum
Staffing.
That's
a
good
thing
that
that
brings
a
gauge
to
the
right
direction.
We
have
a
gentleman
going
out
for
hip
surgery
next
week,
so
I
lose
an
employee,
and
so
you
get
one
you
get
one.
You
lose
one.
So
we're
hopeful.
R
I
D
The
other
thing
we
focused
on
was
the
need
to
in
to
incrementally
increase
annually
our
tax
capacity
to
fund
Capital
Investments.
We
again
heard
this
a
lot
last
week
at
the
arpa
conversation,
so
historically
the
city.
There
are
many
funding
sources
that
go
into
funding
the
capital
Improvement
plan.
The
capital
Improvement
plan
is
that
10-year
plan,
where
we
look
at
how
we
invest
in
our
infrastructure
over
time,
both
the
construction
of
new
infrastructure
and
the
maintenance
of
existing
infrastructure.
D
Historically,
the
tax
capacity
we've
put
into
the
CIP
has
fluctuated.
You
can
see
that
here
and
what
we're
advocating
for
is
that
we
have
been
underfunding
the
general
fund
tax
capacity
for
CIP,
and
we
need
to
get
be
continually
incrementally
increasing
that
over
time
and
I'll
talk
more
about
that
in
a
little
bit.
D
So,
let's
dive
into
the
proposed
budget,
so
I
wanted
to
start
by
saying
that
we
have
made
some
structural
changes
to
how
the
budget
is
presented
this
year,
you
see
a
lot
of
that
listed
here.
One
we've
separated
out
the
Tiff
Grand
list
from
the
operations
Grand
list.
Historically,
we
haven't
needed
to
do
that
as
much,
because
the
increment
Grand
list
was
still
being
developed.
We
are
starting
to
see
this
year.
D
We
will
see
an
almost
10
percent
increase
in
the
Tift
Grand
list,
which
is
wonderful
news,
but
it
means
if
we
don't
separate
it
out
from
the
operations
Grand
list.
It
makes
calculating
that
tax
rate
very
complicated.
We've
integrated
our
benefits
costs
into
our
department
budgets,
which
tell
that
which
I
think
paints
a
more
true
picture
for
the
community
about
how
our
tax
dollars
are
invested
in
each
service
area.
Historically,
there
was
just
that
five
million
dollars
health
and
benefits
line
item
that
didn't
really
tell
the
full
story
of
how
general
fund
dollars
were
spent.
D
D
Pulled
the
capital
expenses
in
each
City
budget,
out
of
the
operations
budget,
to
tell
a
clear
story
of
in
each
department
how
we're
investing
in
capital
and
we've
also
presented
to
you
a
roll-up
budget.
So
you
have
the
line
items
every
single
line
and
every
single
budget.
You
also
have
a
summary
roll-up
Budget
on
that
spreadsheet,
and
you
can
see
here
how
they're
presented
I
do
want
to
note
that
this
will
make
it
very
challenging
for
you
to
compare
last
year's
numbers
to
this
year's
numbers,
because
there
have
been
a
lot
of
Shifting
around.
D
D
So
as
I
think
the
world
knows
right
now,
we
have
there
are
lots
of
challenges
facing
almost
every
sector
of
our
society
from
a
financial
standpoint,
so
we're
seeing
multi-year
High
fight
inflation
rates.
Cola
is
currently
at
6.9
percent.
That's
the
cost
of
living
adjustment,
that's
actually
the
lowest!
It's
been
in
months,
which
is
historic.
D
You
know
in
my
career
you
see
that
if
you
hit
2.1
you're,
that's
a
high
Cola
year.
This
is
really
blowing
that
out
of
the
water.
Of
course.
A
challenge
for
us
is
the
continued
need
to
come
out
of
our
lean
covid
years
and
meet
the
community's
expectations,
so
always
want
to
call
out
some
assumptions
that
we
make
going
into
this
budget.
So
I
mentioned
the
grand
list,
we're
assuming
a
1.75
growth
in
the
Grant
List.
D
That's
one
percent
for
the
operations
Grand
list
and
not
almost
10
for
the
Tiff
Grand
list,
which
is
wonderful
news
for
the
community's
vision
for
City
Center.
Just
as
a
reminder,
Tiff
is
our
City
Center
District
we're
seeing
increases
in
cost
of
goods
and
services
and
you'll
see
that
throughout
budget
presentations
we
have
assumed
the
arpa
salary
step
down
that
the
council
previously
approved
as
well
as
proposed
a
CIP
step
down.
Our
health
insurance
is
increasing
six
percent,
which
is
actually
quite
low
for
the
industry.
D
That
is
a
result
of
our
captive
insurance
and
our
proactive
work
with
Marathon.
You
heard
last
meeting
about
due
to
the
good
work
of
our
Safety
Committee
and
a
lot
of
our
department.
Heads
are
casualty
and
workers
compensate
new
bid.
Contract
is
saving
us
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
this
year,
which
is
a
huge
win,
and
then
we
have
Service
Partners
who
have
as
as
significant
cost
increases
as
we
are
having
that
are
being
passed
on
to
us.
D
So
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
in
the
line
item
and
roll
up
budget
is
a
leadership
team
proposed
budget.
That
does
two
things
the
one
and
two
is
what
you
see
in
the
line
item
budget.
So
what
we
did
was
start
with.
What
is
our
Baseline
budget
if
we
were
to
fund
only
what
we
are
currently
doing
without
additional
capacity
to
address
growth?
What
would
that
require?
D
Then
we
did
the
exercise
of
okay
if
we're
going
to
incrementally
over
two
years,
invest
in
core
government
to
restore
previous
cuts
and
incrementally
keep
up
with
growth.
What
would
that
look
like?
The
combination
of
the
two
is
what
we
are
presenting
as
our
recommended
leadership
team
budget,
but
we're
giving
you
all
the
data.
D
So
first
we
have
the
Baseline
budget.
So
again,
this
type
gets
really
small
and
I'm.
Sorry
about
that,
but
it
is
linked
up.
This
whole
presentation
is
linked
off
the
website,
so
people
can
go
and
play
with
it
if
they
would
like.
So
our
Baseline
budget
assumes
an
increase
of
430
000
in
general
fund
tax
capacity
to
fund
the
climate,
the
capital
Improvement
plan
that
represents
a
16
increase
in
our
general
fund
capacity
from
last
year.
That
also
includes
some
of
our
arpa
step
down.
A
D
So
the
second
portion
of
this
recommended
budget
is
what
we're
calling
our
capacity
building
budget.
So
this
restores
some
of
the
previous
cuts
and
incrementally
keeps
up
with
growth.
So
what's
included
here
is
the
entire
Baseline
budget.
So
we
start
with
that.
As
a
foundation,
it
is
a
two-year
implementation
plan,
so
we're
looking
at
ads
in
FY,
24
and
25.
D
That's
the
increase
for
for
fy24;
it
would
be
slightly
higher
than
that
with
fy25,
because
it's
518
81
000
versus
633,
but
about
that
for
two
years,
and
you
can
see
what
we
are
recommending
adding
here
and
the
reason
we're
giving
you
all
of
this
data.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
here?
So
we
want
you
to
see
what
your
options
are.
So
in
fy24
we
are
prioritizing
that
Parks
position
in
public
works,
increasing
of
Consulting
staff
to
do
traffic
studies.
We
are
getting
inundated
with
requests
for
traffic
studies.
D
It
includes
restoring
a
deputy
chief
in
the
police
department
position,
which
is
actually
and
from
a
vacant
Lieutenant
position.
So
it's
a
smaller
dollar
figure.
It
includes
restoring
one
police
officer,
and
this
year
it
includes
restoring
one
firefighter
this
year,
I'm
going
to
skip
the
next
one
for
a
minute,
and
it
includes
adding
or
restoring
a
GIS
analyst
and
a
policy
data
analyst
this
year.
It
also
envisions
standing
up
a
second
ambulance
which
does
have
a
quite
significant
price
tag.
The
way
we
are
achieving
the
inter
incremental
growth
to
that
is
basically
starting
up.
D
A
D
Sorry,
I,
don't
shouldn't
be
quiet
about
it,
so
supply
chain
is
very
challenging
at
the
moment.
So
if
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
if
this
moves
forward-
and
we
are
allocated,
if
the
council
votes
to
move
this
forward
and
the
voters
vote
on
it,
we
would
place
the
order
for
that
second
ambulance
very
quickly
in
the
hopes
that
it
would
get
here.
Also,
we
have
a
backup
plan.
We.
R
We
have
two
ambulances
now
and
so,
when
we
have
one
on
order,
that
is
due
around
January
of
January
to
March
of
2024.
So
that
would
give
us
three
ambulances
and
then,
in
this
Capital
plan,
includes
funding
for
an
ambulance
to
replace
one
of
the
ambulances.
So
we
would
keep
a
three
ambulance
rotation.
R
D
R
Yeah,
so
the
January,
the
plan
here
works
out
very
well
with
the
arrival
of
the
new
ambulance
keeps
it
was
still.
Our
oldest
truck
would
still
be
a
2015..
The
truck
you
would
have
to
use
when
one
was
down
for
maintenance
would
still
be
a
2012,
and
then
this
plan
would
replace
that
oldest
truck
stupid.
E
E
E
They
do
not
so
my
question
is
of
all
those
those
services
that
provide
amulet
all
those
communities
or
organizations
that
provide
ambulance
services.
So
if
you
had
to
quantify
off
the
cuff,
how
stretched
they
are
I
mean
is.
It
is
the
combination
of
all
those
enough
to
cover
all
of
the
calls
within
the
area
itself
or
I
mean?
Is
there
spare
capacity
if
you,
if
you
added
those
all
together,
I'm
just
curious.
R
I'll
say
this,
and
there
was
a
reason
late
last
week
there
was
you
may
have
seen
on
the
news.
There
was
a
Statewide
presentation
done
to
the
legislatures
legislators
about
the
EMS
system
in
Vermont
and
most
in
they
asked
a
ton
of
service
providers
what
their,
what
their
pick
one
word
to
describe
it,
and
most
of
them
were
Fragile
on
the
you
know,
ready
to
break.
R
So
no,
we
were
at
capacity,
and
one
thing
we
don't
do
is
we
don't
stack
calls
some
places
in
the
in
the
country
they
do
stack
low
priority
calls
we,
we
are
not
far
from
having
to
do
that,
the
hospital.
In
the
last
couple
weeks,
the
emergency
room
has
been
on
diversion
at
times
where
we're
sending
patients
to
non-critical
Patient
Stephanie
Allen.
So
there
is
no
capacity
in
Burlington
just
before
I
left
added
a
third
ambulance,
because
their
capacity
was
not
there
and
that's
exactly
what's
happening
here.
So
no
the
system
is
there.
E
R
D
So
the
third
portion
of
the
proposed
budget
is
the
implementation
of
the
climate
action
plan.
So
a
small
team
of
us
sat
reviewed
the
climate
action
plan,
both
what
we
have
been
have
been
tasked
with
doing
as
your
municipal
government,
but
also
if
how
the
how
the
city
government
could
start
influencing
the
20
000
people
that
will
need
to
take
action
to
fully
implement
the
climate
action
plan.
So
this
is
our
incremental
recommendation
to
do
that.
D
It
includes
adding
two
staff
people
in
FY
24
consultants
for
for
Specialties
that
we
need,
including
that
implementation
plan
funding
for
public
Outreach
and
education,
an
enforcement
team
starting
in
fy25
to
continue
on
in
FY
26,
and
just
to
note
that
we
do
believe,
there's
going
to
need
to
be
additional
CIP
investment
in
City
infrastructure
to
meet
the
climate
plan
goals.
But
we
don't
have
good
numbers
on
that
into
future
Years
yet
because
we
are
still
building
that
implementation
plan.
C
C
D
Okay,
so
a
few
other
kind
of
data
points
to
talk
about.
That's
that's
the
the
entire
proposed
budget.
You
have
now
heard
about
there's
no
more
big
surprises,
but
I
did
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
other
numbers,
because
what
we've
been
talking
about
thus
far
is
really
the
general
fund
budget
and,
as
you
all
are
well
aware
of,
there
are
a
lot
of
other
revenues,
revenue
streams
and
funds
that
go
into
our
city-wide
budget.
D
So,
on
the
general
fund
side,
I
do
want
to
call
out
the
on
the
revenue
side
of
the
picture.
We've
been
talking
about
expenses
on
the
revenue
side.
We
are
trying
to
really
look
at
those
non-property
tax
revenues.
We
are
a
very
well
Diversified
city
as
compared
to
other
Vermont
municipalities.
Most
from
municipalities
have
you
know,
80
to
90
percent
of
their
general
fund
budget
is
on
the
tax
base.
D
Ours
is
hovering
around
60
percent,
so
we
are
seeing
some
pretty
big
increases
in
other
revenue
streams,
so
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
increase
in
our
local
options,
receipts.
Those
are
coming
in
very
strong.
We
are
seeing
some
reductions
on
obviously
arpa
as
we
step
that
down
and
some
of
our
recording
fees.
G
E
E
K
E
D
Great
question
so
I
did
want
to
spend
a
few
minutes
talking
specifically
about
arpa.
So
what
we've
tried
to
summarize
here
is
the
arpa
investment
between
FY
22,
when
we
first
received
the
funds
in
FY
26
and
what
the
plans
are
that
are
built
and
assumptions
are
that
are
built
into
this
budget,
so
that
middle
column
is
what
right
now
the
council
has
already
approved.
You
obviously
can
reallocate
unspent
funds
if
you
would
like
and
then
in
there's
a
proposed
column
about
what's
in
this
budget.
D
So
I
want
to
spend
a
few
minutes
talking
very
specifically
about
the
capital
Improvement
plan
and
Erica
was
here.
Did
you
leave
Erica?
Is
our
CIP
genius?
She
it's
okay.
She
talks
it's
okay,
she
has
done
Erica
and
Martha
and
Andrew
did
an
enormous
amount
of
work
on
the
capital
Improvement
plan
this
year,
specifically
focusing
on
the
years
two
to
ten
and
really
ensuring
that
there
is
logic
and
a
realistic
set
of
assumptions
built
into
the
future
years
of
rcip.
D
D
D
We
have
not
funded
any
money
for
export
continued
exploration
of
the
community's
priority
of
a
recreation
center,
but
we
have
built
it
into
the
fy25
CIP
with
the
acknowledgment
that
that
there
are
more
Community
conversations
to
have
that
we
are
sensitive
to
the
school's
needs
for
upcoming
Bond
votes.
But
we
want
to
keep
it
in
the
pipeline
of
a
community
priority,
so
I've
included
some
highlights
here
about.
What's
so
can
I
just
get.
D
Yep,
so
if
you
look
at
eight
percent
means
sword
numb
sort
of
okay.
So
if
you
look
at
our
CIP
over
the
next
10
years-
and
you
look
at
the
general
fund,
Revenue
stream,
each
of
those
10
years
into
funding
the
capital
plans
that
have
been
identified
if
the
rec
center
is
included
in
that
including
engineering
planning,
engineering
design
and
The
Debt
Service
on
the
on
a
future
Bond
vote
that
would
require
annually,
we
increase
the
tax
capacity,
eight
percent
to
fully
fund
that
without
the
rec
center.
D
We
still
need
to
do
that
by
four
percent.
So
about
half
of
that
increase
is
just
to
do
what's
currently
in
the
plan
and
I
will
tell
you
the
difference
between
that
four
percent
and
eight
percent
is
about
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand.
So
it's
it's
actually
a
pretty
it's
a
a
big
number
but
relatively
close.
C
D
I
totally
lied
earlier
and
said
there
wasn't
other
big
news:
there
is
big
news
on
the
utility
front
of
things
so
when
you
think
about
our
utilities,
so
water,
Wastewater
and
and
Sewer
these
rate,
these
are
funds
that
you
all
approve.
You
don't
send
them
to
the
voters.
These
are
the
current
rates
you're.
Looking
at
you're
going
to
hear
much
more
about
this
in
detail
from
Tom
at
your
next
meeting.
D
Just
a
reminder:
we
currently
have
the
lowest
rates
in
the
state,
so
you'll,
you
see
big
increases
in
both
Water
and
Wastewater
of
eight
percent,
which
are
really
driven
by
the
anticipated
Bartlett
Bay
wastewater
treatment,
plant
Bond
vote
and
an
upcoming
2024
Bond
vote
for
storage
capacity,
which
Tom
will
start
talking
to
you
about
at
your
next
meeting.
Just
as
a
reminder,
we
are
doing
a
comprehensive
rate
study
that
we
will
come
to
you
with
in
the
spring
of
2023
that
will
drive
future
decision
making
Beyond
this
budget
foreign.
D
Of
course,
we
have
25
other
special
funds
with
a
projected
revenue
of
9.7
million
and
expenses
of
9.4.
All
of
those
special
funds
again
are
linked
on
the
web.
On
the
budget
website-
and
you
can
see
what
we
are
anticipating
in
anticipating
for
both
revenues
and
expenditures
by
fund
there-
I'm
not
going
to
walk
through
all
25
of
them
here,
I
always
like
to
talk
about
fund
balances
as
part
of
the
budget
presentation.
D
This
is
your
savings
account
it's
easy
to
talk
about
the
operations,
the
annual
the
annual
budget
and
and
know
that
those
are
very
big
numbers.
I.
Think
it's
also
important
to
acknowledge
that
you
have
about
21
million
in
your
fund
balance.
Much
of
that
money
is
already
restricted
by
our
fund
balance
policies
which
ensures
that
we
have
money
on
hand
in
case
of
an
emergency,
and
then
you
do
have
some
unassigned
operating
and
just
a
reminder
to
the
council.
D
D
D
I
think
it's
also
important
to
note,
towards
the
end
of
these
conversations,
that
there
are
a
number
of
significant
kind
of
emerging
issues
that
are
that
we
are
holding
in
mind
as
we
bring
you
this
proposed
budget.
These
could
have
Financial
impacts.
They
could
not,
but
I,
think
it's
important
to
tell
those
stories,
but
what
you
might
encounter
during
this
budget
year.
So
obviously
we
have
significant
transitions
in
our
executive
team.
We
don't
have
additional
funding
in
this
budget
for
regional
dispatch,
but
we
have
plans
to
do
that
within
existing
funds.
D
You
will
see
that
20
20
2024
bonvo
on
water
storage.
We
are
renegotiating
our
marathon
Health
structure,
so
that
could
have
Financial
impacts.
Our
fire
collective
bargaining
agreement
expires
at
the
end
of
this
at
the
end
of
this
budget
year
and
we
are
seeing
huge
wage
pressures
from
our
surrounding
municipalities.
You've
probably
read
about
that
in
the
news,
especially
within
Public
Safety.
D
So
what
you
will
hear
over
the
next
couple
of
budget
hearings
is
one
from
your
experts.
You
can
stop
listening
to
me
and
and
hear
from
the
experts
on
the
leadership
team.
We
have
standardized
our
presentation,
so
hopefully
that
will
ease
how
we're
sharing
information
with
you
and
hopefully
we'll
hear
from
the
community,
and
this
is
the
schedule
of
the
budget
presentations
that
you
all
are
well
aware
of.
So
we
have
three
more
tonight
buckle
up
any
questions
about
the
overview
team
did
I,
miss
anything
significant
that
you
all
wanted
me
to
add.
E
C
C
D
A
D
Yep
you
can
do
that.
I
would
ask
actually
I
should
have
said
this
at
the
outset.
We
have
put
on
the
agenda
to
receive
this
overview
presentation
and
to
set
the
public
hearing,
so
you
will
have
budget
presentations
from
the
department
heads.
Oh
I
can
stop
sharing
over
the
next
several
meetings,
but
we
would
request
that
you
set
the
public
hearing
on
the
general
fund
budget
and
Enterprise
fund
budgets
and
capital
Improvement
plan
for
January
17th
at
7
00
PM.
Obviously
this
document
can
change
before
that
night.
E
C
A
T
Yes,
well,
Donna
lieben
I've
been
a
30-year
resident
of
South
Burlington
and
it's
not
my
first
time
I'm
applying
for
the
Planning
Commission,
but
I
hope
to
be
more
successful.
At
this
point,
I've
been
following
the
Planning
Commission
for
quite
a
long
time
and
I'm
very
impressed
that
they've
been
able
to
bring
some
very
Progressive
policies
and
that
acknowledge
both
the
the
need
for
development
of
housing,
as
well
as
the
need
for
preservation
of
of
natural
areas.
T
Although
I
don't
do
architecture
specifically
now,
I
have
a
Consulting
business,
which
is
winding
down.
I'm
kind
of
easing
into
retirement
still
doing
some
work,
so
I
have
a
little
bit
more
time
than
I
had
before,
and
but
I
also
am
very,
very
interested
in
kind
of
following
the
the
direction
that
the
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
been
able
to
achieve
in
in
a
fine
balancing
act.
Really
you
know
it's
like.
T
Everybody
kind
of
fears
what
they
don't
know
and
my
background
I
think
in
my
you
know,
I've
been
an
architect
and
a
member
of
AIA
for
a
long
time
which
brings
access
to
a
lot
of
great
resources
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
things
I've
always
wished
that
the
Planning
Commission
could
do
more
is
look
at
examples
of
what
other
cities
and
what
other,
what
other
locations
are
doing
and
how
density
isn't
always
such
a
bad
word,
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
try
to
address
is
the
missing
middle
in
housing.
T
You
know:
we've
got
a
lot
of
multi-story
apartment
buildings,
we've
got
large
single
family
and
now
increasingly
very
large,
duplexes
and
things,
but
there's
not
a
whole
lot
for
the
the
family,
who's
in
the
middle
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
start
thinking
about
how
to
achieve
that.
A
lot
you
know
and
I
think
the
regional
planning
commissions
have
helped
put
together
some
excellent
excellent
resource
materials.
So
I
think
we
have
great
direction
from
them
and
being
on
the
Practical
side.
T
You
know
I
understand
what
developers
and
Builders
do
Architects
direct
all
of
that
work
typically,
but
in
the
housing
area,
often
there's
no
architects
involved
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
it's
useful
to
have
the
perspective
of
somebody.
Who's
who's
been
in
the
field
for
quite
a
while,
as
well
as
understands
the
Practical
difficulties
that
Builders
face,
and
particularly
now
in
terms
of
costs.
T
You
know
how
we
can
actually
sometimes
ask
for
too
much
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful.
You
know
to
understand
that
everything
we
ask
for
costs
money
and
understand
when
maybe
maybe
sometimes
we
need
to
ask
for
a
little
bit
less
and
expect
that,
with
cooperation
from
the
development
community,
that
we
can
achieve
something
a
little
bit
better
than
we've
been
getting
at
least
in
terms
of
the
middle
housing.
You
know
in
the
middle
of
the
housing
market
because
we
haven't
gotten
anything
in
that
area.
T
A
I
I've
been
not
supposed
to
do
this,
but
I'm
a
short
timer,
so
I'll
just
say
it.
I
first
met
Donna
when
I
was
on
the
development
review
board
and
we
had
a
very
large
commercial
project
that
everyone
sees
when
they
drive
on
89,
and
you
very
calmly
explain
to
all
of
us
neophytes
and
the
drb
what
their
lighting
design
would
do
if
it
went
ahead
as
planned,
and
you
worked
with
us
and
the
developer
to
make
a
better
project
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
that.
T
Yeah
I
said
it's
not
a
profession,
you
know,
I
mean
it's.
My
profession,
I
understand
what
these
numbers
mean,
and
it's
it's
also
interesting
now
that
the
people
from
act
250
actually
have
some
training
money,
so
we're
hoping
that
they
can
start
to
understand
more
about
what
the
numbers
mean
in
terms
of
lighting
design,
anyways.
A
A
C
D
Yes,
so
again
you
will
hear
from
me,
but
there
are
much
better
experts
in
the
room.
So
this
this
is
our
standard
overview
presentation.
You'll,
see
all
of
the
presentations
follow
this
format
so
talking
about
Staffing
successes,
the
fy24
budget
CIP
emerging
issues
Spotlight.
So
this
is
who
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
right
now
and
and
team
definitely
pipe
up
when
you
want
Planning
and
Zoning
clerks
legal
physical
plant
assessing
and
tax
collection,
finance
and
I.T.
These
are
really
the
backbone
of
your
municipal
government.
D
So
we
want
to
start
as
always,
by
highlighting
some
of
our
key
FY
22
and
23
successes.
To
date,
this
team
hired
over
20
new
teammates,
including
a
public
works
director
who's
here,
fire
chief
who's
here,
deputy
director
and
couple
in
public
works
as
well
as
police
Lieutenant.
Several
many
many
great
new
teammates
across
the
city,
all
staff
after
this
week
with
the
fire
department,
will
have
received
structural
competency
and
cultural
humility,
training
by
Dr
Mercedes
Avila
who
lives
here
in
South
Burlington.
D
We
negotiated
a
number
of
successful
collective
bargaining
agreements
spent
a
lot
of
time,
focusing
on
cyber
security
and
Shoring
up
our
I.T
systems
to
make
sure
we
were
resilient
and
protected.
We
adopted
a
lot
of
Land
Development
regulations.
You
all
adopted
a
lot
of
Land
Development
regulations
with
the
staff
support
from
planning
and
zoning
and
a
climate
action
plan
and
issued
zoning
permits
for
307
new
homes
within
the
form-based
code,
as
well
as
beta
and
onlogic
this
year.
D
On
the
revenue
side
of
things
you
heard
me
says
a
bit
earlier:
our
zoning
permit
fees
are
going
up
quite
significantly
at
130
000
project
increase
in
this
fy24
budget
on
the
other
side
of
that
equation
are
Clerk's.
Recording
revenues
are
decreasing
by
a
projected
45
000,
some
of
that
is
offset
by
our
Vital
Records
increasing
about
13
000,
and
that's
really
based
on
the
actuals
that
we
have
seen
in
past
years.
D
On
the
expenditure
side
of
things,
we
are
focusing
on
technical
work
and
relying
on
our
clerk's
office
to
be
that
face
of
city
hall
with
the
addition
or
the
with
the
reassignment
of
the
full-time
staff
and
tax
collection
and
assessing.
This
is
the
restoration
of
a
position
that
was
eliminated
several
years
ago,
and
we
will
of
course,
backfill
the
city
clerk's
office
when
needed.
We
are
seeing
in
these
budgets
quite
a
significant
increase
in
our
utility
rates.
D
D
Our
significant
this
backbone
team
significant
request
to
fully
support
the
entire
city,
is
restoring
this
GIS
and
policy
and
data
analyst.
That's
about
a
97
000
price
tag,
all
in
with
salary
and
benefits.
This
JS
position
was
eliminated
in
2020
department.
Heads
were
asked
to
take
on
this
role.
We
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
data
in
the
city
that
we
are
not
using.
D
Whether
that's
calls
for
service
data,
energy
data,
infrastructure
data,
Staffing
data,
and
we
really
believe
that
to
best
meet
the
community's
needs
and
to
give
you
the
best
guidance
we
can
about
policy
questions.
We
need
somebody
who's
focused
on
mapping,
data
collection,
data,
aggregation
and
communication.
D
.,
so
my
understanding
and
I
wasn't
here,
but
the
2020
staff
was
really
focused
on
GIS,
which
this
we
would
certainly
hire
somebody
with
with
great
technical
GIS
skills
in
this
role,
but
it
is
more
expansive
than
that.
It's
connecting
that
data
handling
ability,
data
handling,
experience
with
mapping
and
the
ability
to
say.
Okay,
given
these
things
that
we
are
seeing
with
this
data
on
this
map,
or
in
this
analysis,
how
do
we
best
advise
on
policy
on
making
data-driven
decisions
within
City
operations?
D
D
A
H
C
G
D
D
So
we
are
working
on
a
large
scale
project
to
redo
that
our
elections
as
you've
heard
the
city
clerk
talk
about,
are
significantly
increasing
in
complexity
with
our
fifth
boating
District,
as
well
as
mail-in
options
and
early
voting
options,
and
we
really
need
to
talk
in
fy24
about
how
best
to
oversee
and
facilitate
our
elections
over
time,
especially
with
whatever
change
the
charter
change.
May
recommend
to
you
all
in
the
voters.
D
So
Donna
has
some
exciting
things
that
she
will
be
launching
in
the
first
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
so
I'm
just
teasing
those
a
little
bit.
You've
heard
me
talk
about
the
success
of
our
Safety
Committee,
leading
to
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
savings.
You
heard
Paul
at
our
last
meeting
talk
about
transitioning
to
a
team
approach
for
development
review
and
then
just
a
huge
thanks
to
Mike
Ma
and
his
team
for
all
the
improvements
they
have
made
to
our
City's
cyber
security
posture,
and
that
is
your
administrative
staff.
D
D
C
E
Worry
about
other,
you
know:
Municipal
governments
and
hospitals
and
businesses
that
have
had
ransomware
attacks
and
have
had
disruptions
to
services,
and-
and
it's
happened-
you
know
to
the
medical
center
as
well.
So
it's
really
really
important
that
we
do.
We
have
to
to
make
sure
that
our
it
systems
are
secure
and
that
all
of
our
employees
know
not
to
click
on
attachments
that
they
don't
understand
right
and
that
they
get
trained
over
and
over,
do
not
click
on
attachments
from
an
external
customers
and
and
same
for
everybody
else
at
home
too.
E
A
U
V
V
V
The
fun
is
just
beginning:
Holly,
Reese,
Recreation
and
Parks
director
Jesse's
gonna
forward
slides
for
me.
So
I'll
just
do
a
head
nod:
I
might
be
dancing
too
so
just
an
overview,
first
of
all,
a
beautiful
view
from
Overlook
for
our
overview,
we're
going
to
be
going
over
the
department
Staffing,
which
is
small,
But
Mighty,
some
key
FY,
22
and
23
successes
which
I'm
sure
you're
already
aware
of
and
hear
positive
feedback
about,
as
well
as
budget
proposals.
Some
Capital
Improvement
plans
some
emerging
issues
and
definitely
Spotlight
on
staff.
V
I
V
So
we're
ready
for
our
department
overview
and
Staffing,
so
we
are,
as,
as
I
said,
a
small
But
Mighty
team.
It's
made
up
of
two
programs
staff
which
are
Brett
and
Nick.
Nick
was
hired
a
year
ago,
February
so
he's
coming
up
on
his
anniversary,
which
is
exciting
and
Rebecca,
who
you
will
know
as
the
senior
center
coordinator
and
then
Travis
Ladd,
who
took
the
picture.
V
V
So
key
FY,
22
and
fyfy
23
successes
to
date.
You
can
see
them
out
and
around
the
town
you
know,
creation
of
the
pickleball
facilities
was
a
huge
boom.
Well
utilized.
Tim
was
certainly
there
at
the
opening.
We
thank
him
for
that,
but
it
was
just
a
really
great
example
of
what
had
been
long
planned
for
a
renovation
and
then
you
know
Community
Support
saying
hey:
can
we
pause?
Let's
think
more,
about
pickleball?
V
Instead
of
just
putting
pickleball
lines,
could
we
reimagine
actually
having
pickleball
courts
and
so
with
a
lot
of
feedback
and
support
from
the
community?
We
were
able
to
you,
know
re-look
at
that
and
and
give
the
community
what
they
were.
Looking
for
and
I
I
can
say
that
those
have
been
very
well
used
and
will
continue
to
be
well
used,
they're
locked
up
for
the
winter
season
now,
but
we'll
look
forward
to
reopening
them
in
the
spring.
V
So
now,
all
of
our
youth
softball
players
have
their
own
facility
to
to
utilize,
which
is
great,
and
it
also
will
help
support
our
adult
softball
league
play
at
vet
Memorial.
We
did
Reconstruction
of
Home
Plate
and
pitching
Mounds.
So
how
to
special
contractor
come
in
to
do
that?
Those
just
got
finished,
this
fall
and
working
with
both
the
library
and
certainly
rotary.
We
were
able
to
install
four
free
little
libraries
in
some
of
our
local
parks
and
local
Artistry
as
as
well,
and
so
those
have
been
really
popular.
V
They
are
at
Overlook
veterans,
feral
and
Baycrest,
and
then
obviously
we
all
know
about
the
wonderful
success
and
creation
of
the
wheeler
dog
park.
I
go
past.
The
dog
park
probably
four
times
a
day
and
I
usually
have
to
use
more
than
two
hands
to
count
the
amount
of
dogs
that
are
in
the
park.
So
it's
a
wild
success
which
is
great,
so
those
are
some
of
our
successes
to
dates
for
parks
and
for
events.
V
But
we
we
really
love,
is
to
be
able
to
use
sponsorship
dollars
and
grants
to
to
forward
these
events,
and
so
these
are
two
examples
of
those
very
thankful
for
North
Country,
Federal
Credit
Union
for
their
now
third
year
of
a
sponsorship
for
spark
the
park.
So
we
hope
that
they're
on
board
for
next
year
as
well
and
we'll
look
forward
to
kicking
off
the
first
illuminate
Vermont
just
in
a
couple
weeks,
13
days,
I
think
my
countdown
clock
sets
so
we're
going
into
Revenue.
V
Every
year
we
try
to
really
narrow
in
on
the
revenue
and
you'll
see
from
22
to
23.
That's
you
know
covid
year
for
us,
so
real
impacts
on
what
programming
we
were
able
to
do,
and
some
of
the
things
that
you
know
we
anticipate
that
will
continue
the
after-school,
Ski
and
Snowboard
program.
That
was
something
that
the
middle
school
had
used
us
to
help
coordinate
and
now
they've
taken
that
in-house.
V
V
You
know
we
were
seeing
a
55
and
a
65
dollar
registration
fee
for
youth,
basketball
and
and
that
just
didn't
feel
appropriate.
So
we
are
planning
for
both
for
soccer
and
for
basketball
of
doing
a
10
registration
fee,
so
we'll
get
supports
for
jerseys
from
sponsorships,
but
we're
we're
just
really
feeling
like
those
need
to
be
accessible
programs
for
everybody.
So
that's
some
of
the
revenue
cut
that
you'll,
see
and
in
terms
of
expenditures.
V
The
recreation
of
parks
budget
really
had
five
different
directors
in
five
different
years
trying
to
organize
it.
So
she
spent
a
lot
of
time
consolidating
lines
with
me,
so
we
could
really
get
to
a
better
product,
they're
they're,
fairly
easy
to
read
through
not
asking
for
any
significant
increases
for
sure
and
in
expenditures
other
than
including
those
human
resource
pieces,
CIP
projects
for
24.,
so
two
columns
general
fund
projects
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
then
Rec
impact
fee
projects.
V
So
for
the
general
fund,
we've
got
baseball,
Dugout,
Replacements
and
those
are
stepped
out,
so
one
set
each
of
the
four
or
five
years
dogway
stations.
So
you
also
heard
about
this
in
the
common
areas
for
dogs
committee
arpa,
request
fund,
so
they
are
proposing
an
inventory
added
inventory
of
dog
weigh
stations
around
the
community
as
well
as
bleacher
replacement.
So,
that's
you
know.
V
Just
the
shelf
life
of
bleachers
we've
got
some
that
need
to
come
offline
for
safety
issues,
so
that's
at
vet,
Memorial
Park,
roof
replacements,
those
are
both
the
JC
Pavilion
and
the
Red
Rocks
Pavilion.
Those
are
in
pretty
significant
need
of
repair
and
then
Veterans,
Memorial
Park.
The
28
000
would
be
for
the
there's,
a
Bandshell
beam
that
needs
replacement.
It's
rotting
out,
as
well
as
some
safety
upgrades
for
lighting
and
then
the
recreation
impact
fees.
V
You
know
three
specific
projects:
the
South,
Village,
Recreation
amenity,
that's
been
on
the
list
for
several
years.
It
Ebbs
and
flows
with
urgency
and
and
we've
been
working
with
the
developer
they're,
going
to
be
making
a
commercial
property
on
that
corner
and
on
the
back
of
that
would
be
bathrooms
to
just
to
sustain
the
recreation
amenities.
So
we're
not
at
a
point
of
constructing
that
yet,
but
it
it
stays
in
the
queue
Matt.
I
V
V
It
hasn't
changed
yet
nope,
still
there
additional
dog
park
creation,
so
the
common
area
committee
for
dogs
has
proposed
that
there's
a
dog
park
in
each
quadrant
of
the
city,
and
so
this
would
support
support
that
and
park
signage.
So
as
we
have
both
you
know
the
Rye,
Meadows
property
and,
and
then
the
O'brien
Hillside
property
coming
on
those
excuse
me
two
playgrounds
that
are
already
there
will
need
to
be
signed
and
so
money
money
in
there.
For
that.
A
Have
that
have
they
been
deeded
to
the
city
yet
not
yet,
and
before
we
accept
that
deed
are
there
I
know
you
know
with
streets
and
things
there's
a
certain
level
of
construction
that
we
we
require
and
I'm
just
curious.
If
there's
any
I
don't
know
of
requirements
for
a
park
and
the
equipment
that
we
then
take
on,
because
then
we
have
to
maintain
it
and
replace
it
and
assume
that
it's
safe
and
are
there
those
kinds
of
standards
yeah.
V
I
mean
I,
know,
Tom
is
in
the
audience
now
so
there's
something
that
that
we've
been
working
on
acknowledging
that
they
need
to
exist.
I
mean
certainly,
you
know,
there's
playground
safety,
inspection
that
that
needs
to
happen
ahead
of
that.
For
these
two
projects,
the
recreation
and
parks
committee
was
consulted
as
to
what
equipment
you
know
felt
appropriate
to
go
in
there,
but
it's
a
new
process
for
the
city,
so
it
isn't
as
as
vetted
and
developed
as
you
know,
streets
or
or
those
other
assets.
A
Q
Hi
folks,
Paul
Connor,
director
of
Planning
and
Zoning,
so
for
the
past,
since
2006
in
the
Southeast
quadrant,
we've
had
standards
that
have
said
that
there's
a
a
target
of
seven
and
a
half
acres
of
developed,
Parkland
per
thousand
population.
So
that's
what
the
drb
has
had
to
go
with
developed
has
been
subject
to
the
board's
interpretation
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
More
recently,
this
year
on
a
city-wide
basis.
Q
You
adopted
standards
both
in
the
subdivision
and
then
later
with
site
amenities
that
give
more
sort
of
robust
description
of
what
is
sort
of
expected
from
an
amenity
perspective.
It's
it's
still
sort
of
criteria
rather
than
you
know,
one
slide
one
swing,
you
know
it
doesn't
get
into
the
Super
specifics,
but
it
sort
of
it
gives
a
sense
of
like
if
you're
proposing
this
kind
of
amenity.
Q
Or
a
more
residential
one
that
it
is,
its
characteristics,
are
supposed
to
be
x,
y
z,
that
that's
the
approach
that
we've
taken
and
then
we're
pairing
that,
as
Holly
said,
with
anything
that
would
become
public
or
putting
in
the
processes
into
place
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
certified
playground.
Specialist
who's,
reviewing
it
to
make
sure
that
it
is
installed
correctly
and
we're
involving
our
rec
department
and
Public
Works.
Folks.
Q
Q
V
Okay,
so
we're
at
emerging
issues.
So
as
you,
as
you
heard,
both
at
last
year's
budget
presentation
and
then
at
the
arbor
presentation
as
well,
you
know,
deferred
maintenance
of
our
Parks
is
is
significant
and
while
we
await
hearing
the
kind
of
spread
of
arpa
dollars,
there
is
a
plan
in
the
stepped
out
10-year
CIP
to
kind
of
catch
up
on
the
Deferred
Recreation
maintenance.
So
we're
happy
to
present
that,
but
just
want
to,
you
know,
point
out
that
it's
still
there.
V
As
you
know,
as
we
have
this
bubble
of
growing
population
and
have
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
the
needs
of
everybody
now
and
into
the
future,
and
so
the
need
for
work
around
that
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
mapping
and
a
plan
is
necessary
when
we
moved
out
of
577.
Our
storage
did
not
move
with
us,
so
we're
currently
still
there,
even
though
our
offices
are
here
and
the
school
maintains
access
of
the
rest
of
that
building.
V
So
there
is
need
of
to
move
our
storage
and
the
thought
was
two
or
three
years
ago.
Well,
we'll
move
that
into
a
new
recreation
center.
So
you
know
the
need
for
storage
is
still
there.
However,
that
gets
imagined
just
letting
everyone
know
our
summer
camp
season,
which
I
would
say
you
know
a
decade
15
years
ago
was
the
bread
and
butter
of
most
community
recreation
programs.
V
That's
no
longer
the
case
when
the
school's
out
program
kind
of
increased
their
inventory
to
to
take
as
many
kids
as
they
could,
which
is
great
in
their
summer
camp
program.
You
know
it.
It
alleviated
the
need
for
then
a
a
tandem
program
of
recreation,
and
so
we
have
always
put
together
a
part-time
Camp
inventory
so
either
a
morning
camp
or
an
afternoon
camp
or
a
specialty
week
camp
and
we
are
finding
when
we
don't
have
that
anchor
of
a
day
camp.
V
To
then
kind
of
you
know
do
a
tennis
camp
in
the
morning,
but
then
go
to
traditional
day
camp
in
the
afternoon
that
you
know
our
camps
are
struggling
and
so
I
think
we're
just
always
looking
at
that
with
a
critical
eye
to
see
if
it
makes
sense
to
continue
doing
that,
it's
a
lot
of
time
and
energy,
and
if
it's
something
that
you
know
our
community
isn't
in
need
of.
I
think
that
we
can
spend
that
energy
in
other
ways.
V
So
we're
still
planning
a
Camp
season
for
this
year,
but
just
something
that
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
community
garden
access
is
another
one.
So
we
you
know,
have
significant
wait
lists
at
our
Wheeler
Community
Gardens.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
looking
to
the
future
of
where
else
we
can
put
Community
Gardens
and
that
we
have
staff
to
sustain
those
as
well
as
you
know,
equity
and
and
making
sure
that
this
ties
in
with
the
master
Parks
plan
as
well.
V
But
that
there's
you
know
an
accessible
Park
within
a
quarter
mile
of
each
residence,
and
that
would
be
the
ideal.
We
certainly
aren't
there
right
now,
but
keeping
in
the
Forefront
that
need,
and
then
you
know,
Community
facilities.
You
know
we
talk
about
the
needs
for
daycare.
We've
talked
about
the
needs
for
teen
centers,
we've
talked
about
the
needs
for
boys
and
girls,
kind
of
Club,
we've
talked
about
indoor
Recreation
needs
and
those
needs
all
kind
of
converge,
also
with
school
needs.
V
So
just
it's
all
part
of
the
same
conversation
as
an
emerging
issue.
Yeah,
that's,
okay,
you
can
go
to
Department,
highlights
and
so
just
to
do
a
little
Showcase
of
us.
So
we
have
a
flourishing
Senior
Center,
which
I
would
say
is
a
huge
Department
highlight
I,
think
it
is
busier
than
any
of
us
could
have
imagined
for
year.
One
we've
got,
you
know
a
hundred
visitors
that
come
through
there
any
each
day.
V
Our
programs
are
are
thriving
and
and
people
just
look
for
it
as
a
resource
to
connect
them
with
other
people
and
other
services,
which
is
great
and
then
I
would
say
our
other
department
highlight
is
you
know
our
staff,
and
this
is
our
Halloween
costume.
We
were
emojis
this
year
and
you
know
they
just
they're
really
passionate
about
what
they
do
and
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Oh
no
I,
guess
that's
it.
A
A
X
X
X
That's
what
comes
out
of
those
20
people,
one
of
the
things
that's
exciting
I
mentioned
here,
that
we
have
to
be
aware
of
benefits
for
part-time
people
and
how
can
we
support
them
in
their
employment
and
one
of
the
things
that
Andrew
has
set
up
before
he
took
off
was
that
are
part-time
people
who
are
19
hours
and
above
can
access
some
of
the
resources
of
marathon.
So
I'm
excited
about
that
all
right,
I'm,
ready.
X
So
all
the
successes
that
we've
had
you've
heard
about
through
through
the
year
here
is
a
list
of
them.
I'd,
also
like
to
add
that
our
summer
reading
program
this
summer
was
very
successful.
It
was
a
really
exciting
thing
to
see
because
we've
had
two
years
of
not
being
able
to
really
do
summer
reading,
so
we
had,
and
this
year
we
also
had
adults
and
teens
who
were
engaged
more
than
they
had
been
in
the
past.
So
we
had
61
teens,
70
adults
and
432
kids
participate
in
the
summer
program.
X
Other
things
that
are
of
note
up
there,
the
the
S,
the
ESL
groups
come
into
the
library.
That's
been
a
fabulous
resource,
the
Alex
with
the
Marquette
School
ell
group.
She
got
a
grant,
so
we
did
one
visit
with
them
last
year
and
this
year
we've
had
three
one
from
each
of
the
elementary
schools
and
I
think
she
has
other
funds
to
do
other
events,
but
I
actually
got
to
lead
two
of
those
tours
of
the
children's
room
this
year,
because
Kelly
was
out.
X
So
it's
it's
just
really
wonderful,
to
hear
lots
of
different
languages
in
the
library
and
to
watch
teachers
and
parents
and
students
all
interacting.
So
that's
been
that's
been
key
and,
and
it
is
one
example
of
the
staff
really
working
hard
to
be
inclusive,
and
so
that's
another
thing
I
would
highlight
there.
X
So
Revenue
the
library's,
not
a
big
Revenue
producer
and
what
we've
been
trying
to
do
is
figure
out
what
revenue
is
going
to
look
like
in
the
in
this
building.
So
we
we're
hoping
no
I
think
based
on
our
2023,
where
we
are
now
the
treasurer
and
I
concluded
that
we
we
needed
to
bring
our
expected
Revenue
down.
X
It's
been
very
interesting
that
in
this
building
we
we
are
not
bringing
in
very
much
revenue
for
copying
and
printing,
whereas
at
the
high
school
and
when
we
were
at
the
mall,
we
did
bring
in
more
revenue
for
those
things
so
they're
just
some
things
that
we
couldn't
anticipate
and
so
now
we're
trying
to
anticipate
so
that
we're
we're
ready
with
what
we've
got.
As
I
mentioned
there.
X
U
X
So,
let's
think
about
this,
so
I
had
a
long
talk
the
other
day
with
a
couple
of
Jehovah's
Witnesses
who
want
to
rent
a
space
for
a
special
holiday
that
all
Jehovah's
Witnesses
do
on
the
same
day-
and
this
was
the
Spanish-speaking
group
who
were
trying
to
use
the
library
for
that
tomorrow
night
we
have
a
business
group,
that's
going
to
be
using
it.
The
school
system
uses
it.
Sometimes
they
might
do
trainings
in
in
our
some
of
our
rooms.
X
X
X
X
X
A
X
We
used
to
have
a
bookmobile
yeah
and
that's
when
you
went
on
it.
This
one
is
going
to
be
a
little
easier
to
drive
and
the
the
last
one
was
a
little
unwieldy.
We
could
only
use
it
I
think
eight
months
of
the
year,
because
there
was
anxiety
about
bad
weather,
so
yeah
we'll
take
for
for
us.
We
would
take
a
card
of
books
into
the
building,
whatever
the
building
was
or
get
it
out
onto
the
asphalt.
D
X
Yeah,
okay
yeah,
thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
So
our
emerging
issues
are
I
saw
some
place
earlier
in
the
presentation
that
there
are
issues
about
if
we're
going
to
increase
Library
hours.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that
with
the
the
staff
that
we
have
who
are
taking
care
of
the
facility?
So
that's
an
emerging
issue
that
isn't
on
my
list,
but
it's
certainly
present
what
I've
got.
There
is
just
that
things
are
changing
as
far
as
technology
goes,
I
am
not
I'm
not
seeing
that
we
shouldn't
be
buying
books
anymore.
X
That's
we're
not
there
we're
not
even
at
a
place
where
we're
not
buying
DVDs,
you
may
remember,
am
I
telling
you
that
when
we
built
the
new
library,
the
architect
from
Colorado,
said
well,
what's
this
area
on
your
picture?
I
said:
well,
that's
where
the
DVDs
and
the
audiobooks
are
going
to
be,
and
he
said:
that's
ridiculous.
Take
them
out
of
the
picture
they're
not
going
to
be
around
long.
I
said
no
way
because
ours,
because
they
go
up
in
huge
increments
20
25
still
year
after
year.
So
it's
we're
not
doing
that
yet.
X
X
The
the
next
item
is
just
an
that.
We
are
working
with
facilities
and
with
the
police
department
and
with
other
people
in
the
building,
so
that
we
all
have
kind
of
a
baseline
of
training
and
comfort
with
difficult
situations
because
they
happen,
and
so
that's
that's,
ongoing.
I,
don't
think
it's
something
that
we're
going
to
just
boom
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
take
the
training
of
our
lifetime
and
then
it's
all
going
to
be
set.
It's
an
ongoing
thing.
X
X
X
X
Stacey
wants
to
add
that
she's
very
happy
with
our
social
media
and
that
we
have
a
plan
with
the
advocacy
committee
to
increase
it
and
to
make
it
more
effective.
As
far
as
making
more
asks
online
and
also
getting
more
I
think
that
the
advocacy
committee
is
also
working
on
a
new
video.
So
that's
I
think
what
you're
talking
about.
C
L
X
X
E
X
W
E
M
M
There
you
go
okay,
so
I
apologize
to
the
council.
It's
some
of
it
is
a
repeat
of
what
was
shared
previously.
I
have
added
a
few
new
items,
but
just
want
to
give
everyone,
including
the
public,
a
good
background
on
the
district
where
we
are
and
the
preliminary
model,
which
is
the
same
model
that
I
showed
you
last
time.
We
have
been
working
on,
updating
it
and
it's
shifting
a
little
bit.
M
But
generally,
the
story
is
very
similar
in
the
new
model
which
we
will
present
at
the
necessity
hearing,
so
I'm
sorry
at
the
next
one.
You
need
to
pass
the
necessity
resolution
if,
if
you
are
going
in
that
direction,
so
I
wanted
to
start
with
just
an
overview
of
where
we
are
in
the
life
of
the
tip
District.
M
We
started
in
2012
and
we're
closing
in
on
the
end
of
the
period
during
which
the
city
can
borrow
funds
in
order
to
pay
for
projects,
so
we're
at
a
decision
point
in
terms
of
committing
to
the
last
remaining
projects
conceptually
and
then
the
actual
commitment
would
take
place
at
a
later
date
once
there
is
an
authorization
in
place
to
actually
issue
funds.
The
final
commitment
would
be
when
those
funds
are
issued,
and
so
this
is
our
last
regularly
scheduled
election
coming
up
town
meeting
day.
M
That
is
a
normal
one
in
the
cycle
of
Elections,
where
we
can
have
a
ballot
item
on
the
ballot
for
that
decision
to
be
made
by
the
by
the
voters,
and
so
it
needs
to
be
made
by
Statute
by
March,
31st,
2024,
and
so
in
order
to
go
through
the
appeal
period
and
then
do
the
actual
documentation
to
sign
the
debt.
This
is
when
we
would
normally
do
that,
and
so
with
the
Tiff
District,
the
city
would
continue
collecting
funds
or
increment.
M
M
We
are
in
the
middle
of
an
audit
with
the
state
state
auditor's
office.
To
date,
10
million
has
been
issued,
that's
for
Market,
Street,
City,
Center
Park,
and
this
building
so
the
senior
center,
the
city
hall
and
the
library
we
there
is
also
an
additional
4
million
in
debt
that
has
been
authorized
by
the
voters
but
not
issued,
and
that
is
for
the
first
phase
of
Garden
Street
and
related
costs.
M
M
M
So
there
are
four
projects
that
require
voter
authorization.
There's
been
a
slight
change
in
the
wording
within
our
draft
article,
so
Garden
Street,
Williston
Road,
intersections
we're
not
specifying
phase
two
in
the
same
way
that
we
did
not
specify
phase
one
for
the
first
authorization.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
mix
and
match
across
the
bond
so
that
if
we
have
a
smaller
Bond,
but
it
turns
out,
we
need
more.
We
can
take
some
from
the
first
Bond
or
vice
versa.
M
We
can
move
some
from
whatever
this
bond
amount
ends
up
being
to
the
first
phase
and
are
not
quite
as
restricted.
So
the
language
is
slightly
looser.
It
mentions
some
of
my
disk
drive,
but
this
project
Garden
Street
the
Wilson
Road
intersection,
which
is
essentially
phase
two
goes
from
Midas
drive
and
White
Street
in
a
realignment
of
that
intersection
over
to
Hinesburg
Road,
including
installing
pedestrian
and
bicycle
facilities
along
those
through
on
those
two
intersections
and
then
between
those
two
intersections
on
Williston
Road.
M
But
then
the
language
allows
some
flexibility
so
that
some
of
that
funding
could
be
spent
on
the
Midas
Drive
portion
of
the
phase,
one
of
Garden
Street,
and
this
project
is
the
largest
budget
project.
So
it's
8.3
million
dollars
and
I
just
wanted
to
call
that
out-
and
this
is
also
federal
aid
eligible
and
later
on.
I'll
talk
about
that
more
Williston,
Road
streetscape
is
the
south
side
of
Williston
Road,
it's
a
bicycle
and
pedestrian
facility.
We,
you
know
the
state
language,
for
that
is
shared
use
path.
So
it's
not
really
a
sidewalk.
M
It's
not
really
a
cycle
track.
It's
off-road
and
there's
a
buffer
between
the
this
shared
use
path
and
the
street
the
street
with
does
not
change
at
all.
So
everything
that's
in
the
roadway
on
Williston
Road
stays
the
same,
and
this
is
really
just
adding
this
facility
amenity
to
the
south
side
of
Williston
roads,
calling
it
Wilson
Road
streetscape
this
the
budget
is
2.6
million.
We
have
an
800
000
Grant,
a
federal
aid
grant
for
this
project.
It's
only
50
percent
tip
District
eligible.
It
is
obviously
federal
aid
eligible.
M
Since
we
have
one
Grant,
we
could
pursue
another
grant
for
this
project
and
then
the
East-West
Crossing
is
the
third
project.
This
project
is
a
large
Regional
project.
They
spent
a
lot
about
it.
Recently,
it's
30
percent
tip
District
financing
eligible.
We
have
a
9.8
million
dollar
Federal
grant
for
it.
M
We
have
a
very
small
Gap
about
of
about
half
a
million
and
for
which
we
believe
there
are
several
different
pots
of
funds
that
could
be
eligible
to
fund
that
Gap,
and
then
we
also
have
permission
through
all
the
granting
agencies
to
use
federal
funds.
So
we
could
also
pursue
a
grant
for
this
project
as
well.
M
For
that
Gap
and
I
would
say
this
goes
all
the
way
from
Williston
Road
wraps
around
the
corner
by
CVS
and
connects
to
the
existing
Charities
path
on
Dorset
and
then
City
Center
Park
phase,
two
Boardwalk
shared
use
path.
Connection
is,
is
sort
of
a
north-south
connection
to
Garden
Street
and
Market
Street
via
a
City
Center
Park,
and
it's
really
a
shared
use
path.
M
It'll
be
lighted
and
available,
no
salt,
because
it
is
in
a
sensitive
Wetland
area,
but
generally
Cloud
throughout
the
winter,
and
so
both
access
to
the
park,
but
also
north
south
access
to
the
middle
school,
the
high
school,
from
neighborhoods
to
the
north
and
to
city
center
from
neighborhoods
to
the
South.
So
this
is
budgeted
at
1.1
million.
It's
a
hundred
percent.
This
portion
of
the
project
is
100
tip.
District
eligible
for
financing,
it's
not
federal
aid
eligible
and
and
we're
at
the
60
design
level.
M
So
there
was
recently
a
workshop
on
this
project
and
there's
additional
information
on
the
website.
So
in
total
the
com,
the
total
amount
of
financing
that
authorization
that
is
being
sought
is
15
million,
eighty
six
thousand
and
four
hundred
and
thirty
dollars.
That's
essentially
what
the
financing
plan
allows
and
it's
not
necessarily
what
would
be
asked
of
the
council
to
issue
for
debt,
but
because
that's
what
the
financing
allows
at
this
point.
M
That's
what
we're
asking
for
the
authorization
that
financing
is
based
on
the
best
information
regarding
the
budget's
opinions
of
costs
that
we
had
from
engineers
and
it's
fairly
recent.
So
that's
the
amount
that
is
being
proposed
for
the
for
the
question
and
the
question:
I:
don't
have
it
yet
we'll
get
to
it,
but
just
to
just
to
be
clear,
the
question
is
not
specific
about
assigning
a
specific
dollar
amount
to
each
budget.
It's
a
more
General
amount
so
that
you
know,
as
we
know,
more
information
there's.
M
You
know
a
full
year
between
one
the
March
meeting
town
meeting
day
and
then
our
deadline
for
actually
incurring
the
debt.
We
may
have
more
information
by
that
time
and
some
of
these
numbers
might
change
a
bit.
So
it's
more
General
I
have
a
preliminary
model,
and
this
is
a
model
that
looks
at
potential
development
within
the
tip
District.
It's
the
same
model
that
is
required
by
the
Vermont
economic
progress.
M
So
this
that's
attached
is
the
same
one
that
was
provided
to
you
in
November,
and
hence
it
has
a
it,
doesn't
have
the
updated
budget
numbers
so
apologize
for
that
and
I
wanted
to
start
this
off
with
just
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
pipeline,
and
that's
that
Center
area
which
and
I'm
going
to
show
you
a
close-up
in
a
moment.
This
outline
is
the
whole
TIF
district.
M
It's
106,
Acres,
there's
a
lot
of
properties
within
the
tip
District
that
are
either
undeveloped
or
underutil
utilized
underdeveloped
and
maybe
the
uses
that
are
there
may
not
be
the
uses
that
necessarily
want
to
be
here
in
the
future,
so
they
may
find
it
more
convenient
to
be
located
at
other
location
at
other
locations
or
find
that
they
may
want
to
explore
new
uses
for
those
sites.
So
that's
why
we
develop
a
model,
we're
looking
at
all
106
acres
and
then
in
the
preliminary
model,
there's
two
lines.
M
So
one
is
the
whole
106
Acres,
not
every
property
gets
developed.
For
example,
the
school
district
does
not
get
redeveloped,
it
stays
exactly
as
it
is,
and
then
but
several
properties
where
we
know
there
might
be
some
change
over
the
next
14
years.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
shown
as
redeveloped
and
then
the
other
line
is
really
just
what
has
developed
to
date
and
Catamount
run
I,
don't
have
any
oh
there
we
go,
which
is
the
center
area
and
essentially
land
that
has
been
controlled
by
South
Burlington,
City,
Center
LLC
and
is
under
contract.
M
So
those
two
major
investment
investors
in
Snyder
braverman's
project
results
in
476,
more
homes
that
are
planned
to
be
open
by
2026,
which
is
really
super
aggressive,
and
we're
very
excited
about
that.
So
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
they
will
not
own
the
buildings.
They'll
be
investors,
and
then
those
those
projects
will
they'll
have
some
dibs
on
whether
or
not
students
and
graduate
students
or
employees
are
are
using
the
the
units
first.
So
but.
M
Taxable,
and
so
this
shows
those
projects
so
Catamount
run
are
I,
don't
know
if
you
can,
if
your
Market
Street
is
labeled
on
here,
Garden
Street
is
not
as
the
cross
street
to
the
south
of
Market
Street.
Our
building
that
we're
in
today,
City
Hall,
Public
Library,
is
also
shown
us
as
Allard
square
and
then
the
two
properties
that
are
completed,
Dover,
Place
and
Garden
Apartments
are
in
purple,
and
so
the
red
are
the
UVM
buildings
and
then
next
to
Healthy
Living
is
Prospect.
M
Place
Apartments
and
that's
a
project
you'll
see
that
the
the
the
developer
is
putting
in
the
infrastructure
now
to
get
started
on
that
project.
So
they've
put
in
some
some
temporary
structures
in
order
to
facilitate
that
construction
and
then
Union
Place,
which
is
on
the
south
east
corner
of
garden
and
Market,
is
sort
of
getting
its
its
final
skin,
which
is
really
exciting,
and
you
get
to
watch
that
happen
outside
of
our
windows.
M
A
M
C
M
It's
different
and
it's
fairly
unique
compared
to
every
other
site
inside
City,
Center
I
think
it
it's
one
of
the
only
sites
that
has
a
particular
zone.
So
one
so
a
discussion
that
that
we'd
like
to
bring
back
to
them
to
the
Planning
Commission.
Is
you
know
what
is
the
right
Zoning
for
those
sites
so
right?
M
C
M
Good
question
so
so
this
is
the
model
and
let's
see,
if
I
have
there,
we
go
okay.
So
so
the
green
line
is
all
all
projected.
So
that's
all
106
Acres
properties
that
seem
like
they
could
be
developing
or
we've
had
a
conversation
with
folks
and
seems
similar
like,
for
example,
the
one
north
of
the
Town
Homes.
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
them.
M
Existing
development
and
pipeline
is
really
just
looking
at
what
exists,
and
then
the
senator
Braverman
project.
So
you
can
see
in
2018
that's
what
we
were
collecting.
That's
what
we
collected
in
the
first
year
of
the
tip
district,
and
this
is
what
we
would
expect
to
collect
at
the
end
of
the
tip
district-
is
somewhere
between
almost
6
million
or
3
million.
M
So
3
million
is
our
low
end
and
then
6
million
is
our
high
end
and
then
year
over
year,
growth
and
increment.
Is
that
we're
still?
We
still
have
projects
coming
online
if
every
single,
not
every
single?
But
if
many
of
the
lots
are
redeveloping,
we
would
expect
you
know
one
or
two
to
develop
and
take
advantage
of
the
area
that
has
built
up
in
that
location,
whereas
really,
if
it's
just
existing
development
and
pipeline,
that's
really
just
representing
any
increases
in
the
tax
rate.
M
So
we
so
as
part
of
the
model.
We
show
the
debt
that
we
that
we
have
taken
out
to
date
and
then
what
we
would
expect
to
take
out
and
what
the
annual
payments
are
so
looking
at
it
over
time
across
the
life
of
the
tip
district
and
our
time
time,
periods
during
which
we
would
need
to
pay
that
debt.
We
would
expect
to
have
spend
about
40
million
in
expenditures
so
more
than
the
low
line
and
less
than
The
High
Line.
M
M
We
can
make
all
the
payments
at
a
certain
point,
though,
if
it
looks
like
we
are
not
getting
the
development
that
we
would
expect
to
receive,
we
would
need
to
take
a
hard
look
at
what
is
being
contributed
to
the
reserve
fund
and
make
an
adjustment
and
I
want
to
walk
that
back,
because
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
talked
about
in
the
memo
for
this
project
and
I
just
want
to
see
what
the
next
slide
and
see.
Okay
there.
M
We
really
just
don't
want
to
be
there.
We
want
to
look
at
other
ways
to
mitigate
that
risk,
and
so
primarily,
we
want
to
work
with
developers
and
Property
Owners
to
make
sure
that
we
are
continuing
to
receive
interest
in
redeveloping
properties
and
in
people
making
commitments
to
re-envisioning
how
their
sites
are
being
used
or
are
thinking
about
whether
or
not
they
want
to
continue
where
they
are
and
maybe
maybe
sell
their
property
to
someone
else
who
may
be
interested
in
redeveloping.
M
So
we
there
were
a
lot
of
conversations
that
happened
with
Snyder
Braverman
before
they
got
to
where
they
are
today,
and
it's
been,
you
know
it's
that's
a
particularly
large
and
complicated
property.
It
has
a
lot
of
environmental
considerations
and
permitting
that
had
to
take
place,
but
there
are
lots
of
other
smaller
properties,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
that
Outreach
to
move
that
forward.
M
The
other
one
is
that
we
want
to.
We
will
be
looking
for
federal
funds.
There
are
three
Federal
of
the
four
projects
through
your
federal
aid,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
seeking
grants
for
to
sort
of
bring
down
that
overall
debt
that
is
required
to
complete
these
projects,
and
then
the
third
one
is
we'll
continue
to
look
for
structures.
M
The
proposed
potential
future
debt
is
15
million,
which
will
bring
our
total
to
29
and
a
half
million,
which
is
essentially
what
we're
authorized
to
under
the
the
the
updated
financial
plan,
and
an
important
statement
is
that
when
we
take
out
Tif
debt,
it's
a
general
obligation
Bond,
so
that
we
are
required
to
pay
to
pay
back
that
debt
regardless.
So
you
know
that's
an
important
statement
and
it
helps
us
all.
M
Keep
our
credit
rating
good
and
and
make
sure
that
we're
very
careful
about
taking
out
debt
and
that
it's
a
very
deliberate
considerate
process.
This
is
the
draft
article
like
I,
said:
there's
a
change
with
Garden
Street.
It's
no
longer
says
to
everything
else
is
just
sort
of
fiddling
with
the
lists
to
make
sure
that
they're
representative
of
the
actual
projects
so.
M
A
D
W
B
C
B
E
Had
good
response
to
our
Tiff
votes
before
yeah
and
I
I,
don't
think
that
we'll
I
think
this
the
whole
package
as
one
unit
on
the
ballot
would
be
sufficient
to
me.
My
only
concern
is
and
I
hate
to
voice
this,
but
you
know
the
Tilly
Drive
properties
right
were
completely
purchased
by
UV
medical
center
right
or
they
are
going
to
be
right,
and
so
they
all
are
are
considered
non-profit
all
those
medical
buildings.
Is
that
true?
No,
not
at
this
point
or
there's
a
plan
for
them
to
build
to
buy
them
all.
D
Y
E
D
E
C
E
A
M
D
So
two
additional
thoughts
on
that
one
Elana
is
absolutely
right.
The
amount
they're
investing
is
not
purchasable.
At
this
point,
the
the
developers
are
maintaining
majority
ownership
and
the
my
understanding
of
the
agreement,
and
certainly
we
could
have
them
come
in
and
talk
to
you
about
this
is
that
while
UVM
has
the
first
right
to
the
parcels
or
the
to
the
homes,
they
will
be
on
the
open
market
generally.
Otherwise
they
don't
have
Universal
Soul
right
to
the
properties.
Okay,
in
addition,
I
think
the
worst
case
scenario
with
if
UVM
were
to
come
up
with.
D
E
A
Z
You
are,
my
name,
is
Michael
scale
and
I
just
moved
here
recently
and
had
been
planning
for
six
years
and
I'm
glad
I
finally
made
it.
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
the
composition
of
of
the
buildings
that
you
were
talking
about
in
terms
of
their
usage,
you
would
reference
that
the
question
had
come
up
about
commercial
use
or
re
retail
use
for
some
of
the
space
I
was
wondering.
Z
Is
that
is
that
a
if,
when
you're
talking
about
repurposing
it
for
future
date,
if
the
demand
grows
for
greater,
let's
say
commercial
use
to
make
it
more
of
a
go-to
place
besides
a
a
place
to
just
residential?
Is
there
flexibility
in
that
and
is
that
up
to
the
developers
as
they
see
what
the
market
bears?
C
U
Q
Paul
Connor,
director
of
Planning
and
Zoning,
so
the
area
along
Market
Street,
where
the
four
buildings
that
Alana
just
spoke
to
they're,
the
the
the
the
four
main
ones
in
Catamount,
run
the
first
floor
of
that
is
designated
as
non-residential
and
that
continues
all
the
way
to
Dorset
Street.
Should
there
be
either
buildings
like
the
building,
we're
sitting
in
right?
Q
But
the
everything
that
is
facing
directly
onto
Market
Street
would
be
non-residential
along
Market
Street
in
the
other
areas
along
Garden
Street,
where
the
other
buildings
are
proposed,
where
Alana
discussed
the
a
permit
that
was
just
issued
last
week
for
the
large
building
with
120
homes,
a
coffee
shop
and
a
and
a
daycare
we
are.
The
the
regulations
are
flexible,
such
that
it
could
be
residential
or
commercial
throughout
that
entire
building.
Q
A
I
think
the
question:
if
I
understood
it
was
if
it's
built
now
as
Catamount
run
as
the
ground
floors,
commercial
and
the
upper
three,
it's
only
four
stores
right.
Three
stories
is
residential.
If
the
owners
decide
that
they
could,
they
really
would
prefer
redoing
the
inside
and
making
two
or
three
levels:
commercial,
and
only
maybe
the
top
level
they.
Q
Can
do
that?
Can
they
not
correct
so
throughout
the
entire?
What
this
is
called
the
T5
district
and
then
the
T4
is
most
of
the
rest
of
Williston
Road
Dorset
Street,
the
umall
property
above
the
first
story
were
the
zoning
is
agnostic,
so
I
can
be
residential
or
non-residential
and
can
rotate
between
them.
So
it's
really
intended
to
be
flexible.
The
purpose
of
the
form-based
code
district
is
to
let
the
form
of
the
building
right
be
the
primary
the
primary
issue.
Q
A
L
A
A
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
So
now
we'll
move
on
to
item
13,
which
is
another
public
hearing
on
amendments
to
the
Land
Development
regulations,
ldr
22-07,
to
realign
zoning
districts
along
the
Shelburne
Road
Corridor
and
ldr
22-08
to
allow
Municipal
uses
in
the
commercial
2
district
and
allow
the
following
additional
uses
within
commercial
One.
Auto
District
congregate
care,
Assisted,
Living,
Continuum
of
Care.
Excuse
me:
educational
facility,
educational
support
facilities,
hospice
Municipal
facility,
skilled
nursing
and
Social
Services,
so
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
win.
Yes.
I
A
C
Q
Q
Q
Seeing
on
the
screen
are
the
three
zoning
districts
that
it
lists
exist
along
Shelburne
Road
today,
the
from
top
to
bottom,
the
red
one
is
the
commercial
one,
residential
15
District,
the
middle
one
in
blue
is
the
commercial
One,
auto
district
and
the
the
lower
one
in
purple
is
the
commercial
two
District
they're
somewhat
similar
commercial.
Two
has
a
little
bit
more
of
the
Light
Industry
type
uses
in
it:
the
commercial
one
residential
15
and
the
commercial
One
auto
both
allow
for
15
dwelling
units
per
acre.
Q
Q
The
proposed
amendment
would
this
works
would
shift
this
so
that
the
same
colors,
the
red,
which
is
the
commercial
One
auto,
would
be
expanded
in
the
area
right
here
where
my
mouse
is
so
that's
essentially
along
Shelburne
Road
between
the
building
between
the
Lakeview
complex,
that
is
there
and
up
to
and
including
the
Citizens
Bank.
So
where
Larkin
Terrace,
a
new
building
was
built,
that
sort
of
Redevelopment
area
would
become
the
commercial
one.
Q
Last
slide
here
is
just
showing
this
is
the
proposed
zoning
and
what
you
see
with
all
these
little
tags
here.
These
are
all
the
existing
auto
dealerships
in
the
city,
so
the
along
this
Corridor
I
should
say
so.
The
Planning
Commission
in
looking
at
this
wanted
to
make
sure
that
any
existing
auto
dealership
did
not
wind
up
becoming
a
non-conformity
through
this.
Q
So
the
proposal
would
be
essentially
to
do
a
largely
equivalent
acreage
swap
from
adding
to
the
C1
Auto
in
the
former
Hannaford's
and
the
low
site,
and
and
exchanging
it
essentially
for
this
area
along
Shelburne
Road,
where
we're
starting
to
see
mixed
use.
Redevelopment
such
as
the
Larkin
Terrace,
building
the
land
immediately
north
of
it,
where
the
Citizens,
Bank
and
and
a
number
of
retailers
are
in
the
same
PUD
and
under
the
same
ownership
as
Larkin
Terrace.
So
it
made
sense
to
keep
them
together
in
one
consistent.
Q
Zoning
District,
the
Second
Amendment,
as
chair
really
just
read
off,
is
to
make
some
relatively
small
changes
in
allowed
uses.
So
in
the
commercial
2
District,
which
is
the
purple
one,
it
would
add
Municipal
facilities.
The
main
purpose
of
that
is
to
make
sure
that
our
fire
station
does
not
become
a
non-conformity,
but
it
would
also
open
up
additional
opportunities.
Should
there
ever
be
a
reason
along
the
southern
portion
of
the
corridor,
which
is
where
all
of
our
Transit
service
is?
Q
If
there's
ever
a
need
for
a
municipal
facility,
then
it's
the
zoning
is
allowing
it
in
the
commercial
One
auto.
There's
a
number
of
added
uses
proposed
and
really
the
planning
commission's
objective
there
was
to
other
than
Auto
Sales
try
to
bring
these
zoning
districts
closer
together
in
terms
of
what's
allowed.
So
why
are
cultural
facilities
allowed
in
one
District,
but
not
another
they're
they're
functionally
the
same
Corridor
and
I
think
over
time.
I
think
the
commission
is
going
to
be
looking
at
the
possibility
of
further
consolidating
districts.
Q
S
S
S
For
the
most
part.
It's
it's
equivalent,
Zoning
for
housing,
the
C1
R15
and
the
C1
Auto
have
the
same
residential
density
available.
So
that
shift
doesn't
change
housing
potential.
The
one
location
that
does
have
a
shift
in
housing
potential
is
the
two
properties
that
are
currently
Auto
Sales
and
the
municipal
fire
station,
where
the
the
zoning
was
changed
to
the
C2,
so
that
was
kind
of
at
the
southern
end
of
the
map
that
Paul
had
shown.
H
E
L
W
W
Remember,
hearing
this
first
of
in
April
and
now
it's
December,
and
so
my
question
to
you
is
that's
six
months
or
so
does
that
seem
like
in
a
in
any
way
a
fast
track
and
also
to
that
in
that
conversation,
I
stated
when
you've
previously
been
before
us
on
this
topic,
I
asked
what
concerns
have
been
raised
by
existing
landowners,
and
you
mentioned
one
or
two
and
they
they
seem
to
be
relatively
resolved.
So
I
I
made
this
statement
and
I'd
be
curious.
W
Q
What
do
we
want
to
do
here?
Do
we
want
to
put
it
on
the
work
plan?
Do
we
want
to
look
at
it
now?
Do
we
want
to
say
that
it's
not
really
of
interest
to
the
community?
One
of
the
four
principal
goals
of
the
comprehensive
plan
is
to
be
opportunity,
oriented
and
so
I
think
Jessica.
You
can
speak
to
this
more,
but
the
commission
saw
that
this
was
a
relatively
expedient
lift
on
their
part
to
be
able
to
analyze
this.
Q
As
a
contained
subject
area,
there
was
a
little
bit
of
room
in
their
work
plan
as
we
were
getting
started,
working
on
the
comprehensive
plan
and
it
seemed
like
an
opportunity.
At
the
same
time,
there
was
the
standard
public
processes
involved
with
each
of
them
of
planning
commissions
held
a
hearing.
You've
held
a
hearing.
The
commission
reviewed
it
three
times
before
it
went
to
a
hearing.
So
but
Jessica
is
there
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that.
S
Yeah
I,
just
you
know,
you
I,
think
we're
all
on
the
council
when
we
had
brought
forward
our
very
large
package
with
all
the
environmental
regulation
changes,
and
that
was
a
big
big
change
and
it
took
a
very
long
time.
There
are
many
moving
parts
and
we
kind
of
put
on
a
lot
of
smaller
requests
on
hold
through
that
period,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
big
chunk
and
then,
since
then,
I
think
this
is
actually
our
third
kind
of
smaller
package
to
come
towards.
S
You
and
I
think
we're
we're
trying
to
be
a
little
more
Nimble.
You
know
so
it's
not
years
between
changes,
and
you
know
similar
to
the
TDR
program,
change
and
then
I
think.
Another
piece
of
it
is
that
this
was
a
little
quicker
because
we
felt
like
it
was
in
line
with
a
lot
of
recent
discussions.
The
work
for
the
urban
overlay
District
and
was
in
line
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
S
We've
had
a
few
other
requests
in
the
last
number
of
months
or
a
year
that
you
know
we
felt
like
we
needed
to
have
a
discussion
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
make
sure
that
we
were
doing
something
that
was
in
line
with
that
plan,
as
well
as
a
few
things
have
gotten
referred
out
to
some
of
the
other
committees
for
for
input
first,
so
this
felt
like
it
didn't
need
to
go
to
a
committee.
It
was
in
line
with
some
recent
work
and
in
line
with
the
comprehensive
one.
S
B
Q
Typically,
the
most
of
our
interaction
with
the
regional
Planning
Commission
is
at
the
level
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
as
they
develop
their
Regional
future
land
use
map.
As
Charlie
Baker
had
described
at
your
last
meeting,
they
really
looked
to
assemble
the
priorities
of
each
of
the
communities
together.
We
obviously
work
with
them
in
a
very
collaborative
Fashion
on
all
sorts
of
things,
but
it's
not
their
practice
as
an
organization
to
weigh
in
on
each
zoning
change.
Y
Scott
Pennington
live
on
Knoll
Circle
I
want
to
say
that
I
strongly
support
this
change.
I
know
the
zoning
change
is
supposed
to
be
company
neutral.
But,
from
my
point,
Tesla
is
my
primary
interest.
It's
the
Premier
Electric
Car
Company
in
the
U.S.
If
not
the
world,
it
has
Innovative
manufacturing,
Innovative
software.
So
what
other
car
companies
are
trying
to
follow
these
days?
So
to
have
them
come
here.
Y
I
think
would
be
a
benefit
to
all
of
us
to
encourage
us
to
use
electric
vehicles,
make
it
easier
to
acquire
electric
vehicles
if
you're
going
on
a
long
road
trip
Tesla
and
their
supercharger
Network
makes
it
easy
to
to
do
that.
It's
an
American
company
but
I
think
we
should
encourage,
and
it's
also
in
alignment
with
the
climate
change
goals
that
we
have
so
just
strongly
support
the
change.
For
those
reasons.
Thank.
A
V
V
G
Oh,
thank
you.
Madam
chair
I
am
a
representative
from
the
great
City
of
Burlington
and
although
I'm
visiting
you
by
Zoom,
I
I
think
that
we
have
to
recognize
that
the
economic
General
potential
of
this
I'm
also
a
Tesla
owner.
If
I
want
repairs,
I
have
to
go
basically
to
Albany
or
Massachusetts.
I
think
that
we
need
to
recognize
that.
G
Not
only
will
this
be
a
boon
for
South
Burlington,
but
it
will
also
be
an
economic
boom
for
Vermont
in
itself,
because
all
of
upstate
New
York,
all
of
New
Hampshire
and
possibly
even
some
Main
people
will
be
coming
here.
But
I
really
want
to
emphasize
that.
As
a
member
of
the
government
operations
committee,
we
talk
a
lot
about
advancing
our
climate
goals
potential
and
that
manifested
itself
in
a
climate
caucus.
G
If
you
would-
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
tried
to
do-
is
to
get
more
money
in
the
hands
of
people
directly
to
buy
these
cars
and
I.
Think
the
big
gap
that's
been
missing
here,
even
though
there
are
over
5
000
in
in
our
area,
is
that
you
can't
put
your
hands
on
them.
You
can't
sit
in
the
seat,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
people
generally
want
to
do
so.
I
I
think
this
would
re.
G
A
E
F
Q
A
A
C
Q
B
Q
All
righty,
so,
as
we
discussed
with
you
last
month,
this
is
just
very
briefly.
The
purpose
of
this
is
to
essentially
assist
with
the
financing
of
affordable
housing
projects
to
which
the
city's
already
involved,
so
with
Rising
interest
rates.
All
fees
presently
are
due
at
the
time
of
application,
for
a
zoning
permit,
that's
typically
18
to
24
months
before
the
building
is
operational
and
therefore
bringing
in
Revenue.
Q
We
were
approached
by
the
folks
at
Summit
to
which
is
one
of
the
projects
that
the
city
has
been
involved,
with
both
from
a
Vermont
community
development
program
Grant
and
from
the
city's
affordable,
housing
trust
fund
with.
Is
there
any
pardon
me
and
and
Arbor
funds?
Yes,
was
there
any
opportunity
to
help
them
to
not
have
to
pay
all
the
fees
up
front
because
their
calculations
are
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
forty
thousand
dollars?
Q
Of
that,
the
the
additional
loan
being
taken
out
at
that
time
over
the
in
order
to
pay
it
up
front
would
essentially
mean
that
a
that?
That's
that's
an
additional
payment
just
to
carry
that
extra
loan.
The
interest
payments
over
the
construction
period,
which
is
essentially
equivalent
to
the
money
that
the
city
council
has
voted
to
put
to
from
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
so
it's
essentially
taking
that
money
and
giving
it
to
a
bank.
Q
So
this
is
an
opportunity
to
save
that
money
for
them
as
a
partner
by
having
the
fees
be
due
at
the
time
of
certificate
of
occupancy,
because
the
city
is
so
deeply
involved
in
these
types
of
projects,
there's
all
sorts
of
Fail-Safe
mechanisms
to
make
sure
that
we
would
get
paid
at
that
time.
So
that's
what
this
is
about.
A
W
A
D
So
we
this
is
linked
in
your
package.
We
are
giving
this
to
you
tonight,
primarily
because
one
we
promised
to
give
it
to
you.
It's
a
good
activity
to
report
out
on
our
progress.
Also
we're
doing
staff
updated
this
in
conjunction
with
doing
their
budget
presentations
and
their
annual
reports
so
trying
to
get
all
the
reports
kind
of
lined
up.
So
I
wasn't
going
to
walk
you
through
every
bullet
that
was
on
this
page
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
details
presented
are.
A
A
There
any
questions,
I,
I,
just
an
observation,
you
know
this
is
wonderful
and
it
it
shows
that
you're
making
we're
making
progress,
not
in
absolutely
everything,
but
you
know,
given
all
that
you
have
when
the
city
has
to
do
I
think
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
on
almost
every
area.
This
is
a
couple,
but
this
is
the
report
and
lets
us
know
so.
I
appreciate
it
any
other
comments.
A
W
W
A
A
W
E
We'd
like
to
move
that
the
council
make
a
specific
finding
that
premature
general
public
knowledge
of
the
council's
discussions
on
the
appointment,
employment
or
evaluation,
public
offices
or
employees
and
confidential
attorney-client
Communications
made
for
the
purpose
of
providing
professional
legal
services
to
this
Council.
We
clearly
place
the
city
at
a
substantial
disadvantage.