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From YouTube: Winooski City Council - 1/17/2023
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https://www.winooskivt.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_01172023-1049
00:00:00 Call to Order/Pledge of Allegiance
00:00:25 Agenda Review
00:00:32 Public Comment
00:10:00 Consent Agenda
00:10:35 Council Reports
00:14:24 City Updates
00:17:38 Just Cause Eviction Charter Change Timeline
00:50:11 Proposed Changes to Sidewalk Use
01:31:38 FY24 Budget Presentation – Overall Budget Discussion
03:14:11 Strategic Vision Area Goal Update
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A
A
Agenda
review
any
concerns
about
the
order
this
evening.
Okay,
next
up
is
public
comments,
so
public
comment
is
meant
for
anything
that
is
not
related
to
an
item
on
the
agenda.
If
you're
here
for
something
on
tonight's
agenda,
please
hold
for
that
I'm
going
to
open
it
up.
First
to
the
folks
in
the
room.
I
know
you
guys
have
a
topic:
do
you
want
to
come
up
and
introduce
yourselves
and
then
Paul?
Can
we
bring
Levi
over
on
Zoom
I?
Believe
you.
B
C
Good
evening
everybody,
my
name,
is
the
vice
president
of
the
Pine
Grove
Paris
homeowners
association
with
the
other
boards,
as
you
just
met,
as
well
as
several
of
their
members
on
our
street
attending
via
zoom,
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
very
briefly.
Pine
Grove
terrorist
homeowners
association
is
a
collective
of
22
households
in
the
northwest
corner
of
the
city.
D
C
C
Although
we
disagreed
with
the
city's
assessment,
we
took
action
to
prevent
to
major
environmental
incentive
involving
the
local
waterways
recommended
by
the
city
and
the
EPA.
The
contractor
was
hired
by
us
to
fix
the
cracked
pipe
and
sinkhole
and
the
and
the
updated
system
after
being
fixed
was
deemed
acceptable
by
these
entities.
Resolving
any
further
environmental
concerns.
C
E
E
C
Of
this
information,
the
the
way
us
requested
a
meeting
with
the
city
officials
to
discuss
restitution
for
the
repair,
the
association
met
with
Elaine
wing
on
August
11
22,
to
discuss
the
repair
and
possibilities
for
rectification.
We
were
opposed
two
options:
the
city
take
or
reimbursement
for
the
repair.
C
C
C
That
the
city
would
be
open
to
the
idea
if
it
were.
We
are
currently
pursuing
this
Avenue
having
just
placed
a
deposit
yesterday
for
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
worth
of
work
with
the
contractor.
We
then
request
a
meeting
to
discuss
next
steps
and
reimbursements
for
repairs.
This
past
Friday
Elaine
responded
to
the
HOA
that
a
city
the
city
would
not
take
over
the
pump
station
in
its
current
status
and
that
the
city
would
be
open
to
the
idea
that
there
were
modern
ones.
C
Like
I
said
so
this
past
Friday
Lane
responded
to
the
association.
The
city
would
not
recognize
responsibility
for
the
broken
pipe
which
we
interpreted
as
prescribing
our
responsibility,
much
greater
than
described
in
the
protective
Covenant
and
putting
our
whole
community
at
risk.
The
city's
position
is
that
the
pipes
that
leave
The,
Pump
Station
travel,
hundreds
of
yards
under
City
roadways
and
private
property,
are
the
responsibility
of
the
HOA.
C
C
Done
by
the
city,
furthermore,
we
believe
the
root
cause
for
the
or
these
are
caused
by
a
heavy
machinery
in
vehicles
used
to
maintain
and
service
service
acidity
property,
including
the
retention
fund.
While
it
is
the
association's
physical
goal
to
dissolve
and
overcome
station,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
maintain
and
Safeguard.
In
doing
so,
we
have
committed
to
making
significant
upgrades
in
the
coming
months,
modernizing
the
infrastructure
purchasing,
pump
and
selling
a
new
cover.
Etc,
that's
going
to
cost
upwards
of
30
grand
this
winter.
We.
D
B
B
So
we
were
all
in
agreement
how
how
properly
to
repair
that
leakage,
so
whether
it's
disputed,
who
owns
that
or
who's
responsible
for
that,
we
felt
the
guidance
from
the
city
was
very
positive
and
we
and
we
worked
there.
We
also
like
to
thank
the
city
clerk.
As
the
city
manager
recommended
the
night
we
met
with
the
city
manager
that
we
moved
right
into
the
clerk's
office,
took
considerable
amount
of
time
to
review
the
deeds
and
find
what
we
needed
and
and
respond
to
what
the
city
manager's
requests
were
for
that
information.
B
We
think
we
resolve
that
part
of
it
for
Discovery,
so
I
think
we're
in
a
good
place.
We've
just
been
hoping
to,
maybe
sooner
than
later,
meet
with
the
city
councils
to
because
one
of
the
options
was
the
city
manager
said.
If
the
city
council
voted
on
this,
what
her
recommendations
would
be-
and
we've
looked
at
that
and
said
well,
maybe
there's
an
association.
B
We
will
try
to
meet
those
recommendations
in
good
faith
and
that's
what
we've
been
doing
since,
but
in
other
words,
early
conversations
before
the
meeting
suggested
that
city
manager
was
going
to
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council
to
be
posted
on
the
agenda
when
possible.
We
support
that.
We
hope
for
that
to
occur
and
I
appreciate
the
openness
in
regards
to
this
issue.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
A
G
A
A
A
So
for
consent
agenda
we
have
our
city
council
minutes
from
January
3rd
and
liquor
control
from
January,
9
and
Council,
and
then
the
payroll
and
payable
warrants
and
our
annual
Transportation
Highway
certification.
Any
questions
about
consent,
agenda
items
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
approve
motion
by
Brent.
Second
by
Thomas,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
motion
carries
Council
reports
Aurora.
Would
you
like
to
start.
I
I
So
first,
we
reviewed
how
the
city
budget
might
be
shared
with
residents
and
kind
of
how
to
explain
that
in
a
way
that
would
give
residents
what
they
need
to
make
an
informed
vote,
and
the
commission
then
reviewed
a
draft
information
sheet
for
this
from
the
city
around
the
just
cause,
eviction,
Charter
change
and
provided
some
input
on
ways
to
improve
readability
and
accessibility
of
the
document.
We
also
had
on
our
agenda
to
discuss
the
equity
audit
further,
but
that
was
tabled
until
we
could
spend
a
whole
meeting
on
it.
I
D
J
I
believe
there's
a
ccrpc
meeting
tomorrow
late
afternoon,
so
the
chicken
County
Regional
Planning
Commission,
is
seeking
project
recommendations.
Something
I
shared
with
Council
just
happened
to
notice
that
in
a
public
notice
seeking
projects
so
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
participate
on
that
public
hearing.
If
they
choose,
we
also
have
a
infrastructure
meeting
on
Thursday
the
19th
that'll
be
at
the
Winooski
pool
community
room.
The
agenda
items
are
to
go
over
our
work
plan
and
to
go
over
officer
roles.
J
A
Two
quick
updates
for
me:
I
joined
other
Vermont
Mayors
from
the
mayor's
Coalition
on
Friday
and
released
a
shared
legislative
agenda,
which
was
informed
by
the
work
that
we
did
as
Council
prioritizing
actions
on
housing
for
the
State,
Legislature
and
Planning
Commission
met
last
week
to
continue
their
discussion
about
creating
incentives
for
historic
preservation
that
work
continues.
Parking
is
part
of
that,
so
parking
reductions
for
historic
preservation
and
affordable
housing
are
under.
K
So
the
airport
commission
meets
next
or
meets
tomorrow
at
4
pm.
This
will
be
the
first
time
I'm
joining
that
body
as
the
appointed
member
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
involved
in
that
and
on
Thursday
we
have
a
pretty
substantial
housing
committee
commission
meeting,
looking
at
the
housing
chapter,
no
ordinances
and
talking
about
housing,
quality
and
minimum
housing
standards.
So
it
should
be
a
good
working
meeting
on
some
much
needed
upgrades
to
be
done
there.
So
I
look
forward
to
that.
L
H
H
Continuing
the
fiscal
year
2024
budget
meetings
tonight
with
the
overall
budget
discussion
city
council
will
vote
on
the
final
proposed
budget
on
next
Monday.
The
23rd
after
that
we'll
have
a
joint
City
and
school
budget
presentation,
and
a
community
dinner
is
planned
on
February
9th.
As
part
of
that
presentation.
H
Speaking
of
time
meeting
day,
if
you're
interested
in
running
for
a
local
office
on
town
meeting
Day
note,
the
deadline
to
file
paperwork
is
5
PM
on
Monday
January
30..
There
are
two
city
council
seats
up
for
election
and
three
School
District
seats
up
for
election.
The
two
city
council
seats
are
for
two-year
terms.
The
school
district
seats
are
the
treasurer
for
a
three-year
term
and
two
School
District
trustee
seats,
one
for
a
three-year
term
and
the
other
for
a
two-year
term
to
appear
on
the
ballot.
H
You
must
be
a
Winooski
resident
and
file
a
consent
of
candidate
form
and
a
petition
with
a
minimum
of
30
signatures.
These
need
to
be
filed
with
the
city
clerk's
office
again
by
5
PM
January
30..
If
you
have
any
questions
about
this,
you
feel
free
to
contact
the
city
clerk's
office.
The
city
clerk
is
right
here.
If
you
haven't
met
Jenny
wellingham
before
and
you
can
contact
them
again
at
655-6410
or
clerk
at
winning
cvt.gov
or
you
can
come
into
City
Hall
at
27,
West
Allen
Street.
H
The
city
Winooski
will
send
a
press
release
today
by
the
Vermont
Air
National
Guard,
who
will
be
performing
night
flying
from
Tuesday
January
17
to
Friday
January
20
and
from
Tuesday
January
24
to
Friday
January
27,
with
two
takeoff
and
Landing
periods
scheduled
between
1
pm
and
8
pm.
There
are
no
scheduled
morning
flights.
Their
press
release
was
shared
on
our
city
channels.
If
you're
looking
for
those
details
again
and
finally,
a
blood
drive
will
be
held
at
the
Winooski
Senior
Center,
this
Friday
from
12
to
5.
12
to
5
15
p.m.
H
A
You
all
right
we'll
get
into
our
regular
items
then
so
first
up
is
the
just
cause.
Eviction,
Charter
change
timeline
issue,
we'll
have
Elaine
we'll
have
you
introduce
walk
us
through
the
situation?
Council
will
have
time
for
clarifying
questions.
Then
I'll
open
it
to
public
comment
and
then
we'll
do
our
decision
making.
H
Thank
you
so
mostly
from
my
cover
sheet,
just
saying
that
to
council.
So
in
December,
the
city
clerk
accepted
a
voter-backed
charter
change
petition
that
would
Empower
Council
to
pass
a
just
just
cause
eviction
ordinance
after
your
January
3rd
meeting
staff
found
out
that,
unfortunately,
we
are
inadvertently
out
of
compliance
with
state
law
on
the
timeline
for
responding
to
the
petition
by
State
Statute.
Not
only
does
the
first
hearing
on
the
voter-backed
petition
or
voter-backed
Charter
change
have
to
be
held
more
than
30
days
before
the
vote,
which
we
were
aware
of.
H
It
must
also
be
warned
30
to
40
days
in
advance
of
the
hearing
date,
which
is
something
we
had
overlooked
so
at
your
January
3rd
meeting.
I
should
have
advised
you
to
warn
the
first
hearing
for
between
February,
2nd
and
February
12th,
but,
as
you'll
recall,
the
hearings
on
my
advice
were
set
for
January,
26th
and
February
4th,
so
that
first
meeting
is
the
problem.
H
You
can,
of
course,
hear
from
the
many
folks
who
are
probably
here
today
to
comment
on
that.
That
would
require
a
validation
vote
sometime
after
that
election
on
March
7..
We
haven't
yet
found
out
that
the
statute
States
when
validation
votes
must
be
held
or
what
would
happen
if
the
validation
vote
were
to
fail.
We
will
keep
you
updated
on
on
what's
advisable
if
it's
a
special
date
for
a
special
election
for
that
validation
vote.
We
estimate
the
expense
to
maybe
be
around
three
thousand
dollars.
It's
possible.
H
H
So
there
that's
that's.
If
we
that's
the
option
pros
and
cons
as
we
can
discover
them
for
a
March
7
vote,
the
other
types
of
options
are
to
hold
the
later
hold
it
later.
So
there's
three
ways
to
do
that.
Two
were
noted
in
your
packet
for
today,
so
one
option
is
to
hold
it
at
next
town
meeting,
that's
2024,
which
is
a
long
time
from
now
and
or
to
hold
it
for
at
a
special
meeting
just
for
this
item
sometime
this
year.
H
The
major
drawback
to
this
is
the
likelihood
for
a
low
voter
turnout.
A
third
option
but
noted
by
councilor
Oakley
for
over
the
weekend
is
that
we
could
doubt
delay
town
meeting
day
all
the
items
that
we
anticipated
for
that
ballot
item.
So
we
did
a
little
homework
on
that
today
and
current
pros
and
cons
that
we
can
think
of
include
so
as
councilor
Oakleaf
noted
Council
doesn't
currently
have
this
Authority,
but
could,
if
house
bill
number
42
becomes
law
in
time.
So
assuming
that's
fine,
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
authority
piece.
H
We
don't
know
when
and
if
it
would
become
law.
So
we
would
need
counsel
to
be
prepared
to
vote
on
the
town
meeting
warning
which
includes
the
date
of
the
election.
That
would
need
to
be
warmed
between
January,
26th
and
February
5th.
So
you
would
need
to
either
decide
next
week
at
your
regular
meeting
or
set
a
special
meeting
date
before
your
next
scheduled
one
of
February
6th,
where
you
can
warn
that
meeting.
H
Apologies
for
all
of
the
calendar
math
involved
here,
so
no
going
that
going
with
this
option
would
likely
mean
people
currently
in
office
and
not
running
again
would
need
to
serve
until
the
vote
and
there's
also
the
school
votes
to
consider
for
positions
and
budget.
It
might
impact
when
the
school
can
accept
Federal
two
million
dollars
in
federal
funds,
but
it
might
not.
H
or
we're
just
extending
our
current
budget
here
into
the
into
the
next,
at
least
for
the
sitting
perspective
I
actually
haven't
looked
at
the
school
Charter
about
that,
so
also
holding
it
later
this
year
might
pose
some
staffing
challenges.
We
have
some
non-negotiable
medical
outages
that
will
happen
soon
after
the
March
7th
date.
H
I
I
think
I
have
a
question.
I
I,
think
I
agree
with
having
it
held
on
March,
7th
I.
Think
another
item
to
consider,
too,
is
that
this
is
my
understanding
is.
This
would
be
an
item
that
all
residents
can
vote
on
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
feels
like
holding
it
as
expected
would
give
the
best
amount
of
cheese
for
voters
to
understand
and
be
able
to
get
the
information
they
need.
H
I,
don't
know
how
to
answer
that
second
part
definitively,
but
I'll
just
confirm
that,
yes,
the
city
attorney's
advice
is
also
that,
in
his
opinion,
all
of
our
all
Winooski
residents
would
be
able
to
vote
on
this
because
it's
essentially
an
advisory
to
the
state.
It's
so
that
that's
how
it's
a
local
matter
and
not
a
state
matter
yet
right.
J
D
I
K
J
H
H
J
H
F
H
G
H
D
H
H
Website
and
the
social
media
channels,
and
then
Jenny
and
I
were
debating
whether
or
not
to
pull
the
seven
days
ad,
because
that
was
anyway.
That
was
another
point
where
we
could
have
drawn
it
back,
but
it
was
already
out,
and
so
by
the
time
we
were
discussing,
what
to
do.
It
was
already
out.
So
that's
why
it
seems
more
sensible
to
just
keep
the
same
dates.
J
K
L
H
H
So
the
reason
why
I
put
in
the
memo
that
he
advises
that
it
is
a
little
risk
option
to
have
it
on
the
seventh
is
because
this
is
an
essentially
an
advisory
vote
to
the
state,
because
the
state
says
for
those
of
you
aren't
aware,
the
state
sets
all
of
our
Charters,
so
the
authority
all
comes
from
the
state,
so
we're
not
actually
passing
it
here.
We
would
just
be
saying
to
the
state
we
all
we.
You
know
the
city
voted
this
way
or
that
way.
H
H
D
H
A
A
N
N
For
my
public
comment
tonight,
I'm
actually
going
to
read
a
letter
sent
by
Senator
Tanya
vachovsky,
who
represents
Winooski
regarding
this
as
she's
not
able
to
be
present
this
evening
because
of
scheduling
issues
so
good
evening,
winning
city
council,
Matt
lot
and
city
manager.
Wang
I
am
writing
to
you
today
as
one
of
the
state
senators
representing
Winooski
a
long
time,
housing
Advocate
and
the
only
tenant
to
currently
sit
in
the
Vermont
state
senate.
N
In
the
past
few
days,
I've
been
concerned
about
messages
that
I've
received
from
my
constituents
regarding
the
actions
of
the
city
council,
mayor
and
town
manager.
In
regards
to
the
just
court
eviction
Charter
chain
proposal.
Constituents
have
reported
that
Winooski
city
council
and
the
mayor
of
Winooski
are
considering
pushing
back
the
charge
exchange
vote.
N
Holding
this
vote
back
due
to
the
city's
error,
weakens
Civic
engagement
and
ignores
the
will
of
the
people
in
Winooski
and
their
voice
demanding
adequate
tenant
protections.
I
need
not
remind
you
that
65
percent
of
Winooski
residents
rent
their
homes,
and
it
was
just
last
year
that
dozens
of
new
Americans
face
Massive
Action
through
no
cause.
That
was
only
reversed
by
a
stronger
response
from
the
citizens
of
the
city.
N
Legislative
session
we
heard
from
former
Winooski
resident
a
disabled
woman
that
was
no
cause
evicted
from
their
apartment
for
having
the
temerity
to
ask
a
federally
required
accommodations
from
her
landlord.
We
also
heard
from
a
sitting
legislator
that
was
no
course
addicted
from
her
home
and
spent
months
being
homeless.
While
she
tried
to
secure
housing
the
longer
you
wait
on
it
having
this
vote,
the
more
of
these
incidents
will
occur
and
the
current
state
of
housing
of
the
housing
crisis.
We
need
to
act
quickly
to
provide
any
and
all
protections
that
we
are
able.
N
If
the
Winooski
voters
approve
this
message,
I
will
fight
for
them
in
the
state
house
to
be
sure
their
voices
are
heard
and
upheld
and
I
urge
you
to
fight
for
them,
as
at
the
municipal
level,
by
putting
just
cause
eviction
on
the
2023
Mark
7
ballot.
Sincerely
Senator
Tanya
behoski
should
have
been
Central
District,
so
I
just
Echo
what
Tanya
said,
which
is
fantastic,
African
in
the
state
house,
and
it
sounds
like
the
recommendation-
will
be
March
7th
of
this
year
and
I
encourage
you
to
talk
about
that
way.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
O
Just
also
want
to
Echo
that
you
know
on
the
pro
and
cons
list
from
the
memo
that
you
read.
You
know
it
doesn't
include
anywhere
that
one
of
the
biggest
cons
is
going
to
be
that
people
will
have
more
no-cause
evictions
if
this
is
delayed,
and
that
is
a
very
real
fear
for
like
a
basic
need
for
many
of
us
in
the
community.
So
I
just
want
you
to
think
about
that
and
go
through
with
the
vote
as
planned
on
March
7th.
Thank
you.
A
O
G
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
sifried
boy-
is
a
resident
woodinuski,
not
a
long
time
resident
new
and
glad
you
guys
have
such
a
welcoming
format
here,
I've
been
to
other
City
Council
meetings
and
it's
been
a
little
bit
more
hostile,
especially
around
topics
such
as
you
know.
The
right
to
renters
I
would
like
to
just
speak
in
favor
of
going
forward
with
the
March
7th
date
in
accordance
to
the
first
recommendation
by
the
City
attorney.
What.
G
But
the
recommendation
was
from
the
city
attorney
from
the
city
attorney.
It's
from
my
experiences,
just
it's
very
easy
to
forget
things
and
have
given
how
soon
this
is
the
the
canvassing
and
the
petition
has
happened
waiting
a
year.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
would
forget
about.
What's
going
on
a
lot
of
no
cause,
evictions
would
happen.
G
It
seems
like
it
would
be
very
easy
to
get
lost
in
noise
and
just
get
prolonged
or
just
not
pass
I
think
holding
it
sooner
would
improve
the
Democratic
process
just
in
our
local
community.
We
want
to
encourage
Democratic
engagement
within
our
community
to,
for
people
have
say
about,
you
know
their
living
standards,
their
their
rights
and
their
protections,
and
it
seems
even
though
there's
it
appears
that
there's
some
mistakes
that
quite
clear
frankly
go
over
my
head
understanding
the.
G
It
seems
like
the
best
way
to
go
forward
would
be
to
just
do
the
March
7th
date
I'll
ditto,
that
special
elections
are
bad,
not
bad,
like
we
shouldn't
be
doing
them,
they're
just
complicated,
and
you
don't
get
the
turnout
that
you
would
like
to
see.
It
sounds
like
the
other
option
of
delaying
it
to
2024.
Not
only
has
the
complications
of
people
forgetting
and
a
lot
of
evictions
potentially
happening
in
the
the
time
between
now
and
then,
but
also
I
believe
it
was
mentioned.
G
G
P
P
It's
obvious
that
we're
kind
of
in
a
tough
situation,
but
that
does
seem
to
be
the
best
way
forward
and
I
know.
We've
mentioned
the
urgency,
and
while
this
is
a
city
Charter
change,
this
will
have
to
go
to
the
state
to
be
approved.
I
do
think
that
doing
this
sooner
than
later
will
help
people
from
being
falsely
evicted
from
discriminatory,
renting
practices.
P
My
current
apartment
likes
to
rent
in
Cycles,
so
they
like
to
have
everybody
renew
their
leases
at
a
specific
time,
it's
kind
of
it's
easier
for
them
to
do.
The
actual
you
know
bureaucratic
work
of
signed
paper,
but
also,
if
you
need
to
proceed
with
evictions,
I
think
it
also
kind
of
helps
them
in
that
regard,
as
well
and
I
have
seen
some
of
my
neighbors
I
feel
be
falsely
evicted
and
not
really
be
given
just
will
just
cause
eviction.
Many
of
them
were
not
evicted.
P
They
were
not
served
in
eviction
notice,
but
rather
they
were
just
not
given
a
lease
renewal
and
I
feel
that
that's
horribly
unfair
to
renters.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
support
just
cause
eviction
is
because
we
need
to
make
sure
that
landlords,
property
owners
are
following
what
should
be
the
rules
and
should
be
held
accountable
for
injustices
against
people
who
are
mostly
vulnerable.
65
percent
of
when
you
see
residents
are
voters.
P
E
Hi,
my
name
is
Nora
Aarons
I
use
she
her
pronouns,
I,
live
and
rent
in
Burlington
and
have
for
several
years
now,
and
as
someone
who
has
personally
lived
through
the
trauma
of
a
no-cause
eviction,
I
strongly
encourage
moving
forward
with
the
March
7th
2023
date
and
I
do
mean
trauma
when
I
use
that
word
I
do
not
use
it
lightly.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Q
My
name
is
Andy
Blanchard
and
I
appreciate
the
time
that
you
all
have
given
to
public
comment
for
such
an
important
issue.
Whether
just
cause
eviction
will
continue
to
be
on
the
March
Ballot
or
the
petition
as
a
Winski
City
Charter
change
or
the
city
council
will
vote
to
delay
that
I'm
encouraged
to
know
that
city
council
is
leaning
towards
moving
forward
as
planned
to
be
clear.
Q
I
am
urging
city
council
to
maintain
the
original
March
vote
as
intended,
and
here's
why
I'm,
a
women's
ski
resident
and
director
and
I
have
been
for
a
number
of
years
in
2020
I
was
no
cost
evicted
from
my
apartment
due
to
the
new
owner
deciding
they
would
prefer
their
friends
to
become
their
downstairs.
Attendants
this
displaced
myself,
a
social
worker
along
with
a
local
therapist.
Q
I
have
been
working
with
fellow
residents
to
collect
signatures
over
the
winter
to
get
just
conservation
on
the
ballot.
My
partner
and
I
spent
hours
in
the
cold,
knocking
on
doors
and
found
that
both
homeowners
and
renters
signed
a
petition
and
all
residents
and
registered
voters.
This
tells
me
that
voters
don't
want
these
key
to
the
team
to
be
gentrified
through
no
cause
fictions.
We
clearly
enjoy
the
community.
We
are
currently
surrounded
by.
Q
We
not
only
provided
the
city
with
more
than
enough
signatures
on
petition.
We
exceeded
the
minimum
required
and
we
submitted
them
on
December
13th
well
before
the
deadline,
and
we
would
hope
that
it
would
still
be
on
March
ballot.
For
that
reason,
since
myself
and
Bell
Residence
group
able
to
do
our
due
diligence
to
ensure
voters
who
signed
the
petition
and
expect
to
see
the
term
change
on
the
ballot
in
March,
it
is
only
right
that
the
city
followed
through
on
their
end,
to
be
extremely
clear.
Q
The
city
has
indicated
that
equity
and
housing
are
top
priorities.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
own
where
the
city
has
gone
wrong
and
honor
the
work
put
in
by
residents
to
bring
this
essential
housing
item
to
the
voters.
Please
vote
to
put
the
just
conservation
chart
change
item
on
the
March
ballot.
Thank
you.
A
R
Hi
I
I'm,
a
misty
Mentor
I've,
been
living
here
for
about
four
years
and
I
I
was
I,
wanted
to
also
support
of
having
the
vote
on
March
7th,
as
usually
planned,
I'm
one
of
the
people
who
signed
the
petition
and
also
asked
friends
and
neighbors
to
sign,
and
my
most
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
what
Google
has
said
like
there
are
no
possibitions
happening.
You
know
all
the
time
my
roommates
and
I
in
our
most
in
our
last
apartment
left
after
we
learned.
R
Let
us
know
that
they
were
going
to
convert
our
apartment
to
an
Airbnb,
so
we
didn't
actually
get
evicted,
but
that
was
what
they
were
going
to
do
and
but
that's
a
separate
issue
sort
of
in
terms
of
converting,
affordable
housing
to
airbnbs,
which
is
happening
but
and
I.
Also,
my
downstairs,
neighbor
was
just
no
conservicted,
just
December
31st
with
her
four
kids,
which
was
really
destructive
for
them
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
renters
inflated.
H
R
D
R
You
know
if
someone
is
violating
their
lease,
so
I
I
I
think
it's
really
important
to
move
forward
with
this,
especially
in
the
housing
crisis
that
we
have
and
it
also
with
the
number
of
countries
we
have
and
the
vulnerability
that
a
lot
of
renters
have
and
how
hard
it
is
to
find
out
their
apartment.
So
I.
Q
R
R
R
A
Motion
by
Jim
second,
by
Aurora,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
all
right
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all.
Okay,
we
are
on
to
Item
B.
This
is
on
for
discussion.
Only
introduction
of
proposed
changes
to
sidewalk
use
if
anyone
doesn't
want
to
stay
for
the
remaining
items
feel
free
to
just
exit.
D
S
A
S
Thank
you
very
much.
I
am
here
tonight
to
provide
you
with
an
overview
of
supposed
changes
to
chapter
five
of
this
use
of
the
city's
Municipal
Code
related
to
sidewalk
use
as
a
bit
of
background.
This
is
something
that
staff
has
been
discussing
for
the
past
several
years.
Changes
in
staffing
has
kind
of
slowed
this
process
a
bit,
but
we
have
been
diligently
working
to
get
to
get
this
item
before
you
in
hopes
of
having
something
in
place.
Any
changes
in
place
by
this
year's
upcoming
sidewalk
season
as
a
little
bit
of
background.
S
Historically,
the
city
has
accommodated
businesses
and
allow
them
to
use
part
of
the
city
sidewalks
in
in
various
locations
generally
in
front
of
the
business
Where,
the
Sidewalk
in
front
of
where
the
business
is
located.
Typically,
this
has
been
restaurant
seating
for
the
warmer
months.
This
has
started
out
initially
as
a
small,
two-top,
Cafe
style
tables
and
has
slowly
transitioned
into
large
picnic
tables
and
and
other
other
seating
arrangements.
S
The
pandemic
actually
created
a
need
for
additional
outdoor
space,
and
so
the
city
started
to
relax
some
of
the
regulations
and
accommodate
more
requests
for
use
of
that
space.
Since
then,
we
have
been
finding
that
some
of
the
the
sidewalk
use
has
started
to
to
take
up
more
time
than
than
staff
had
originally
anticipated,
and
it's
become
a
bit
more
of
a
process
than
was
originally
laid
out.
So.
S
So
what
we're
proposing
are
changes
that
will
hopefully
accommodate
accommodate
those
uses,
also
one
other
item
with
the
with
the
application
process.
As
you
may
recall,
we've
had
some
challenges
in
the
past,
where
two
businesses
have
have
requested
the
same
space
and
they've
had
to
come
back
to
you
to
have
that
situation
rectified
so
we're
hoping
to
alleviate
some
of
those
issues
and
having
the
staff
time
to
to
take
care
of
those.
So
this
process
officially
started
with
Outreach
to
the
business
Community
back
at
the
beginning
of
December.
S
You
were
all
provided
some
information
in
advance
so
that
going
out
to
the
business
Community
we
provided
them
with
a
memo
outlining
several
options:
five
different
options
that
were
considered
by
the
city
or
at
least
evaluated,
but
then
ultimately
not
Advanced
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
those
are
all
outlined
in
that
memo.
We
also
provided
a
link
for
the
businesses,
the
either
the
owners
the
employees
patrons.
Whoever
could
provide
feedback
directly
to
us
on
on
the
the
proposed
changes
that
were
being
made
at
the
time
of
preparing
the
agenda.
S
We
had
13
responses
to
those
to
that
to
that
Forum
on
the
city's
website.
That
information
was
included
in
your
agenda
packet
as
well.
Since
then
we
officially
shut
the
form
down
on
Friday,
so
businesses
had
up
through
Friday
to
respond.
We
received
about
seven
more
responses.
They
were
all
from
employees
generally
consistent
with
some
of
the
other
responses
that
we've
received,
so
nothing,
nothing
too,
too,
Grand
or
or
new.
In
that
regard.
In
addition
to
that
form,
I
had
received
several
phone
calls
and
emails
from
businesses
directly
and
also
I.
S
Had
one
business
owner
stop
in
directly
to
talk
with
me
about
the
about
this
information.
So
what
I
was
hoping
to
do
tonight
is
just
provide
a
general
overview
of
some
of
the
the
higher
level
changes,
with
the
expectation
that
we
would
get
into
a
more
detailed
conversation
at
a
future
meeting
in
your
agenda
packet
with
the
cover
sheet
I
identified,
February
6th
as
a
potential
date
for
that
I'd,
actually
like
to
revise
that
to
your
next
meeting
on
January
23rd.
S
That
will
allow
us
enough
time
to
potentially
warn
a
public
hearing
for
your
meeting
on
February
21st,
with
the
idea
that
this
Council
would
potentially
see
this
process
the
whole
way
through
before
town
meeting
day,
when
when
potentially
new
counselors
would
be
seated
and
then
we
might
have
to
go
through
the
process
again.
So,
if
possible,
if
you're
comfortable.
That's
the
timeline
that
we'd
like
to
proceed
with
going
forward
completely
your
decision
in
that
regard.
L
One
of
the
concerns
it
seemed
was
safety
concerns
and
I
had
asked
what
safety
concerns
we
had
seen
that
would
warrant
the
kind
of
changes
that
you're
proposing
due
to
safety,
didn't
hear
back
from
anybody
reached
up
to
the
businesses
and
they
had
not
witnessed
any
safety
issues
that
were
done
or
people
tripping
or
being
hit
by
cars
that
they
had
reported
to
the
businesses.
So
if
I
could
get
clarification
on
that
question,
I
asked
in
November
today.
That
would
be
great
sure.
S
For
the
bumper
overhang
we
have
like
I
said
we
haven't
seen
any
at
least
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
reported
incidents
of
vehicles,
interacting
with
pedestrians
in
that
regard,
but
I
think
that's
the
point
here
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
in
front
of
it
so
that
that
doesn't
happen
right
now
again
it
the
city
is
assuming
full
liability
if
something
were
to
happen
in
that
area.
So
because
it
is
the
city
space,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
the
city
in
that
regard,.
S
L
D
H
You
yeah
and
that's
my
apologies
for
not
getting
back
to
you
timely.
Thank
you
and
I
will
say
that
it
is
the
job
of
staff
to
look
for
the
worst
possible
scenario
and
help
the
city
plan
or
prepare
for
those.
So
I
I
understand
the
frustration
that
people
might
feel
that
if
there
hasn't
been
an
issue,
why?
But
one
issue
could
be
very,
very
expensive
for
this
issue.
J
S
So
that's
those
are
both
good
questions
or
good
good
points.
I
think
the
the
map
that
was
included
was
really
more
to
show
an
example
of
what
this
would
look
like
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
not
every
area
of
the
sidewalk,
not
every
location
of
where
sidewalk
use
is
happening,
is
the
same
so
this
these
changes
may
not
affect
businesses
at
all.
It
may
actually,
in
some
cases,
give
businesses
more
space.
It
may
also
make
the
outdoor
seating
more
accessible
for
for
people
with
Mobility
impairments.
S
Some
of
the
businesses,
some
of
the
buildings
are
not
currently
Ada
accessible
because
the
doorways
are
either
too
narrow
or
there's
thresholds
that
they
can't
cross.
So
by
incorporating
in
some
of
the
changes
that
are
outlined,
the
businesses
may
actually
get
more
space
and
make
their
space
more
accessible,
so
because
the
the
because
each
area
is
different,
it's
hard
to
really
lay
out
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
So
the
map
that
we
included
was
really
intended
to
show
a
sample
of
of
one
particular
block.
E
J
Moving
on
from
that,
one
thing
that
stood
at
me
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
lot
in
here,
but
one
thing
that
stood
out
to
me
as
an
overarching
question
I
noticed
that
a
newer
requirement
for
or
new
language
I
should
say
to
have
a
two
million
dollar
liability
coverage.
What
decided
2
million
is
opposed
to
one
million.
S
J
D
S
Yep
happy
to
do
that
so
I'm
just
going
to
highlight
some
of
the
some
of
the
bigger
changes
for
you
all
and
please
feel
free
to
to
ask
questions
or
ask
about
other
items
that
I'm
not
highlighting.
So
the
first
item,
I
would
note,
is
on
page
three,
which
is
a
new
definition
for
storefront,
basically
trying
to
clarify
what
actually,
what
area
we
are
allowing
to
be
utilized
for
for
sidewalk
use.
This
carries
over
onto
onto
page
four
and
actually
another
change
that
I'll
note
at
the
bottom
of
page.
S
D
S
Think
they're
called
now,
where
they're
doing
it
on
an
anniversary
date
rather
than
on
an
annual
basis.
So
some
of
the
timelines
that
are
outlined
in
that
section
wouldn't
make
sense
anymore
for
some
of
the
other
aspects
that
this
this,
this
specific
chapter
of
the
municipal
code
is,
is
affecting
or
impacting
so
it
made
sense
to
remove
that
language
as
well,
so
a
new
definition
for
what
a
storefront
actually
is.
S
J
S
Yeah,
so
really
the
idea
being
that,
if
it's
a,
we
wanted
it
to
be
a
brick
and
mortar
storefront.
That
was
the
idea
there,
so
that,
if
somebody's
putting
up
a
temporary
tent
or
something
that
that
doesn't
then
give
them
new
space
that
they
can
that
they
can
acquire
unless,
unless
it
falls
under
one
of
the
other
categories,
that's
been
outlined
further
back
under
I
believe
under
the
sidewalk
use
section
in
5.09
and.
D
J
S
Yep
and
I
believe
that
that
type
of
example,
counselor
is
outlined
under
Section,
it's
either
under
509
or
a
a
future
section.
But
yes,
so
we
tried
to.
We
tried
to
build
in
as
much
of
those
accommodations
as
possible
for
businesses
that
are
either
operating
under
different
hours.
That
could
potentially
share
additional
space.
S
So,
for
example,
sneakers
is
mostly
a
morning
and
daytime
business
where
monkey
house
is
more
of
an
evening
and
afternoon
business
so
potentially,
if
they
were
able
to
to
work
it
out,
they
could
share
all
the
space
in
front
of
both
of
those
buildings
or,
if
there's
a
business
that
does
not
want
to
use
outdoor
space,
they
could
put
an
adjacent
business,
could
potentially
take
over
the
space
in
front
of
their
business.
The
sidewalk
space,
with
with
an
agreement
from
that
business,
all.
S
So
again,
we're
we're
building
in
Provisions
to
potentially
accommodate
more
space
than
than
some
of
the
businesses
currently
have,
if,
under
certain
circumstances,
so
yeah
so
section
509
provides
more
of
the
the
specific
details
on
on
the
actual
permit
use
itself.
Who
can
apply
for
it
the
the
time
of
year
that
it's
that's
usable
and
then
this
gets
into
some
of
the
other
allowances
like
we
just
talked
about
for
sharing
of
space.
S
So
the
April
1st
to
November
30th
coincides
with
the
the
I
believe
it
coincides
with
the
parking
ban
for
the
city.
So
that's
generally
the
operational
time
when
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
more
space
cleared
for
maintenance
and
for
those
those
kind
of
off-season
events
that
we
might
need
to
go
out
and
clear
snow,
for
example.
S
S
S
We
are
allowing
for
an
accommodation
of
that,
provided
it
again
meets
the
the
offset
from
the
from
the
curb
line
and
and
in
certain
circumstances
if
it
needs
permitting,
because
either
the
height
or
the
the
design
of
it
for
for
any
type
of
building
code
that
that
is
built
in
as
well.
But
we're
not
prohibiting
that
type
of
of
design
to
be
to
be
allowed
in
here
and
also
in
some
cases
it
may.
S
A
business
may
want
to
build
in
some
sort
of
a
structure
because
some
of
the
businesses,
along
again
along
the
Winooski
block
for
sure
and
along
the
west
side
of
the
circle
there
is
that
step
down
to
where
they
generally
are
using
the
seating.
By
moving
by
accommodating
that
that
two
foot
space
they
may
need
to
put
in
some
kind
of
a
structure.
I
actually
had
a
conversation
with
one
of
the
business
owners.
S
That
basically
said
I'll
just
shave
a
little
bit
off
the
legs
of
the
table
and
slide
them
in
and
I'll
be
fine.
I
won't
have
to
build
anything
in
there.
I'll
have
the
same
number
of
tables
I
had
as
I
did
last
year.
This
won't
affect
me
at
all.
So
again,
it's
going
to
impact
people
differently,
a
business
like
archives
on
the
other
side
of
the
circle
they
this
probably
won't,
do
anything
to
them,
because
there's
no
they've
got
plenty
of
space
there
for
sidewalk
there's
no
step
Downs,
there's
no
other
structures
in
the
way.
S
The
other.
The
other
part
that
comes
into
play
with
this
section
is
to
identify
the
fact
that
we
will
need
to
build
in
some
space
for
for
existing
public
as
I'm,
calling
it
public
Furniture.
So
bike
racks
parking
kiosks
things
of
that
that
nature
so
they're
still
usable.
We
had
some
some
instances
this
past
year,
where
I
believe
that
at
the
grazers
location
on
the
southern
end,
there
their
tables
were
right
up
against
the
bike
racks
that
were
on
that
corner.
S
J
S
That's
a
good
question,
I
think
and
I
may
let
John
Rauscher
jump
in
here
as
well
since
he's
on,
but
I
believe
this
should
accommodate
any
changes
to
Main
Street
as
well.
I
know
the
design
of
Main
Street
is
going
to
be
a
bit
different.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
bit
wider,
sidewalk
a
bit
wider
tree
belt.
So
we
may
need
to
look
specifically
at
where
we
would
allow
for
use
of
sidewalk
space.
But
again
that
may
we
may
need
to
see
more
of
what's
what's
happening
there.
F
F
Of
the
Main
Street
project
is
to
provide
a
wire
pedestrian
route.
So,
typically,
you
want
to
see
like
a
in
more
congested
downtown
area,
Federal,
pedestrian
access
and
as
soon
as
you
start
to
make
Cafe
tables
and
get
back
you're
getting
things
back
down
to
the
you
know
now,
so
we'll
have
to
come
up
with.
S
To
that
point,
one
of
the
changes
that
was
recently
made
to
the
the
Gateway
zoning
District
allows
for
a
portion
of
the
building,
depending
on
how
big
it
is
to
be
set
back
further
from
from
the
the
property
line,
the
required
building
line
and
part
of
that.
The
purpose
for
that
setback
was
to
accommodate
any
type
of
outdoor
space
for
a
ground
floor
business.
So
we
built
some
of
that
accommodation
into
the
zoning
component.
Presuming
that
a
developer
would
take
advantage
of
it.
S
Okay,
the
other,
the
other
big
change
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
for
you
all
and
I
think
the
last
one
is
on
page
12
for
the
the
approval
process.
What
we're
outlining
here
is
an
initial
approval
would
happen
by
Council,
but
then
you
all
could
delegate
future
approvals
of
that
sidewalk
use
to
staff
so
under
certain
circumstances.
S
So
those
I
think
are
the
big.
The
big
changes
that
I
wanted
to
highlight,
but
again
just
more
of
a
higher
level
overview
tonight,
with
the
the
intent
of
coming
back
to
you
at
a
future
meeting
to
get
into
more
detail,
hopefully
address
any
concerns
you
may
have
and
then
hopefully
set
a
public
hearing.
J
J
J
J
J
A
I
think
a
citation
is
a
good
Baseline
level
for
bringing
something
back
to
council.
I,
don't
think
individual
complaints
are.
Somebody
can
be
complaining
about
a
business
who's
actually
not
violating
any
issues.
I,
don't
think
that's
worth
pulling
it
out
of
administrative
approval,
and
if
they
really
have
a
problem,
you
know
they
can
speak
a
public
comment
they
can
reach
out
to
us.
We
could
ask
to
pull
something
out
of
administrative
approval,
but
I
wouldn't
want
to
have
a
standard
where
any
complaint
means
we're
still
doing
all
of
these
approvals.
A
J
G
K
That
isn't
addressed
by
this,
then
it's
a
call
for
there's
a
valid
complaint
or
something
we
want
to
address,
and
we
would
reopen
this
ordinance
and
make
additional
changes
to
fix
that.
If
it's
so
I
feel
like
there's
that,
if
there's
something
broken
that
the
complaint
is
highlighting,
then
we
would
fix
it
and
I
would
expect
staff
to
raise
that.
T
E
K
S
I
think
that's
that's
some
of
the
intent
of
why
we're
adding
in
so
much
new
language
is
so
that
we
do
have
parameters
to
evaluate
any
any
issues
or
concerns
or
complaints
that
come
forward
to
us.
We
can,
we
now
have
or
we
we
potentially
would
have
a
regulatory
mechanism
to
point
to
to
say
you
were
in
violation
of
X
Y.
So
it's
right
now
we
don't
have
that.
So
it's
harder
to
enforce,
enforce
the
sidewalk
use
yeah.
J
J
S
In
in
previously,
these
were
coming
before
you
all,
because
you
were
also
reviewing
the
outdoor
consumption
permitting
at
the
same
time,
and
now
that
those
are
being
separated
because
of
the
anniversary
date,
you
would
be
seeing
or
a
an
application
for
sidewalk
use
may
come
in
randomly,
rather
than
with
a
an
application
for
outside
consumption,
so
those
two
are
potentially
being
separated.
So
hopefully,
the
administrative
process
would
allow
staff
to
address
those
when
they
come
in.
Outside
of
that
that
normal
time
frame.
A
S
S
S
That
I
believe
is
from
John
I'll.
Look
to
you
again,
I
believe
that
is
from
the
ite
The
Institute
of
Transportation
Engineers
their
manual
for
the
design
of
these
actual
spaces.
For
the
angle
of
the
the
space
being
45
degree
angle,
spaces
I
believe
it
calls
for
a
two
foot,
overhang
yeah
close.
It's.
F
K
L
D
S
And
I
think
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
in
these
proposed
changes
that
would
prohibit
the
use
of
picnic
tables.
It
may
require
that
a
business
add
in
a
bit
more
infrastructure
to
accommodate
the
table
to
in
some
cases
where
that
that
step
down
occurs
so
but
I,
but
there's
nothing
about
what
we've
written,
or
at
least
there's
no
intention
of
what
we've
written.
That
would
require
a
business
to
to
not
use
a
picnic
table.
S
It
may
just
require
them
to
do
a
little
bit
more
so
in
the
example
of
the
one
business
owner
that
reached
out
to
me
about
just
cutting
down
the
legs
of
the
table
to
accommodate
that
step.
That's
that's
a
perfectly
acceptable
solution
to
do
that.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
about
that
two
foot
clear
space
for
for
the
angled
parking.
S
What
it
does
is
it
accommodates
the
bumper
overhang,
but
it
would
also
accommodate
a
place
for
for
for
the
the
passengers
of
that
vehicle
to
walk
so
that
they're
not
having
to
walk
out
into
the
travel
Lane
to
get
around
some
of
the
barriers
that
are
put
up
around
these
outdoor
seating
areas.
So
if
they
do
need
to
to
get
from
place
to
place,
that
would
provide
some
additional
space
for
them
to
walk.
J
There
was
a
question
about
before
those
angled
parking
how
the
the
space
between
them,
before
you
have
the
the
additional
barrier
of
the
island
like
how?
What
are
the
requirements
facing
requirements
for
that
is
that
meeting
minimum
is
that
over
minimum
like
what
the
space
for
cars
that
need
to
back
up?
You
know
what
what
the
world,
with
more
additional
information
you
have
on
that
I'm.
S
S
So,
according
to
the
diagram
John
put
together,
that's
it's
just
over
12
feet
right
now,
I
think
probably
the
bigger
issue
with
with
that
drive
aisle
is
going
to
be
emergency
services
and
if,
for
some
reason,
we
needed
to
get
a
fire
truck
in
there
having
enough
space
that
that
truck
could
park
safely
and
I'll
look
to
Chief
Audie.
If
he
wants
to.
F
F
K
And
maybe
I
think
another
piece
you
would
need
to
have
is
the
minimum
depth
of
the
parking
stall
itself,
because
right
now,
I
think
these
are
quite
long
parking
stalls
and
the
question
is:
does
the
entire
parking
still
need
to
move
because
the
parking
still
become
shorter?
I
think
that
I
don't
know
if
that
was
implied
in
your
questions
essentially.
S
R
And
so
I
I
think
all
the
questions
are
so
thoughtful
and
I
really
appreciate
them
and
I
just
wanted
to
shout
out
to
a
few
staff,
because
they've
been
doing
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
on
this
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
questions
and
feelings.
And
so
we
know
that
there's
a
lot
involved
in
this,
but
I
do
feel
like
this
process.
R
And
hopefully,
if
the
next
meeting,
where
more
income
discussion,
I,
don't
know
great
work,
discussions
and
action
potentially
is
taking
on
this
I'm
sure
that
we'll
have
some
business
owners
and
other
organization
parties.
You
know
participating,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
University
staff,
and
for
you
guys
for
giving
you
know
your
thoughts
about
them,
because
there
is
a
really
difficult
thing
at
playing
here,
which
is
the
safety
and
the
life
of
a
Beyonce
side
and
I
understand
exactly
risk
diverse,
but
also
supporting
the
businesses.
R
And
it
took
me
a
long
time
to
kind
of
get
my
head
around
what
this
actually
means
and
to
bring
points
like
it's
different
in
on
every
street.
So
that's
complicated,
but
ultimately
I
do
feel
that
there
is
actually
more
positive
potentially
and
you
know
less,
it's
a
little
bit
less
experience
thought
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
and
that
you
will
definitely
be.
R
A
A
Yeah
I
would
be
interested
in
the
future
hearing
from
business
owners
like
these
survey.
Responses
are
very
concerned,
but
I
don't
understand
how
it
translates
to
like
from
what
you're
showing
us
there's
this
like
undertone
of
this
means
we
can't
have
any
outdoor
seating
or
something
so
hearing
more
about
this
concerns
will
be
useful.
S
One
other
item
I
want
to
highlight
is
related
to
this.
We
are
in
the
early
processes
of
working
on
a
separate
arrangement
with
certain
businesses
that
have
city
property,
but
they're
not
really
sidewalk.
So,
if
you
think
about
the
space
in
front
of
McKees,
where
it's
a
it's
city
property,
but
it's
not
really
the
travel
path
of
a
sidewalk.
S
Similarly
Water
Works
they're
outdoor
space,
we're
so
we're
working
again
very
initial
stages
of
this,
but
working
on
specific
lease
agreements
with
those
businesses,
so
they
would
fall
kind
of
outside
of
this
sidewalk
use
because
of
the
nature
of
their
of
their
outdoor
space
that
they
have
so
in
this
instance.
What
we're
talking
about
is
really
where
there's
a
true
pedestrian
travel
component
to
the
sidewalk
use
that
will
be
impacted
is
that's
that's
what
this
piece
of
the
code
is
intended
to
address.
S
A
S
This
time
I
think
I
have
the
I
believe
I
wrote
down
all
the
questions
that
you
all
were
looking
for.
Additional
information
on
and
we'll
hopefully
bring
that
back
to
the
next
meeting.
I
think
the
the
big
thing
will
be
just
that
yeah
trying
to
get
this
scheduled
for
your
next
meeting
on
January
23rd,
rather
than
on
February
6th,
as
it
was
indicated
in
the
agenda
pack.
Okay.
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
A
H
H
You
would
need
to
have
the
vote
warned
between
January
26
and
February
5th,
your
last
scheduled
meeting
before
that
is
January
23rd
next
week.
So
that's
why
we've
scheduled
your
vote
on
the
budget
and
warning
for
that
meeting
staff
have
updated
the
budget
proposal
in
response
to
recent
conversations
about
equity
and
trying
to
find
other
savings.
These,
as
well
as
items
that
Council
are
actively
debating,
are
highlighted
in
Green
in
the
budget
scenario
tool
for
consideration.
H
There
was
one
item
that
I
neglected
to
highlight
the
St
Michael's
adjustment,
which
I'll
review
in
a
minute
items
included
in
the
tool,
are
a
possible
Cuts
identified
by
staff
from
the
overall
general
fund
budget
that
would
not
significantly
impact
current
operations,
B
stretch
budget
items
to
make
progress
on
strategies
and
parties
and
party
initiatives
or
see
items
requested
by
Council
for
review.
So
departing
from
my
cover
sheet
now,
a
recommended
change
that
you
haven't
heard
me
discuss
yet
in
a
public
meeting
that
could
reduce
the
fy24
budget
is
alluded
to
earlier.
H
H
H
I'll
say
that
since
we
changed
the
Housing
Initiative
director
posting
to
30
hours
from
40
hours,
we
haven't
had
a
single
applicant
I'm,
not
I,
don't
I
can't
say
for
a
fact
that
that's
a
direct
correlation,
but
you
can
have
your
own
suspicions
about
that.
If
you
did,
if
you
wanted
to
bring
that
back
to
40
hours,
that
would
leave
18
588
dollars
to
spend
elsewhere.
D
A
We
can
then
make
statements
about
what
we
want
to
see
or
propose
changes
which
I
would
let
everybody
do
before
we
start
digging
into
those
and
debating
so
to
keep
us
to
keep
things.
Orderly
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
submitting
positions
right
away
that
we
first
start
with
just
doing
clarifying
questions
and
before
kicking
that
off.
A
A
A
E
H
Was
presented
to
us
as
one
that
has
been
used
by
this
person
in
other
in
their
consultancies
for
other
organizations,
I
think
I
think
that
the
year
the
term
was
like
a
year
where
members
of
the
affected
community-
in
this
case
it
would
be
when
you
see
a
residents
or
business
owners
or
employees
or
whatever
I'd
call
them.
Stakeholders.
H
Probably
members
who
are
marginalized
in
particular,
would
be
invited
into
a
process
where
they
could
meet
with
one-on-one
with
staff
people
and
explain
to
them
us
what
their
experiences
living
here
working
here
or
what
have
you
and
then
it
would
be
up
to
us
as
staff
to
manage
that
input
and
see.
Well
what
what
could
we
change
in
response
to
that?
So,
in
a
way,
I
I
see
it
as
spreading
out
the
what
would
have
been
all
gathered
by
the
equity
director.
H
Then
it's
their
job
to
make
it
all
happen,
and
my
sense
is
that
it
makes
us
more
of
all
of
our
jobs.
There
isn't
necessarily
that
direct
accountability
of
like
okay,
we're
gonna.
You
say
this
we're
gonna,
do
that,
but
you
know
an
equity
director
wouldn't
be
able
to
guarantee
that
either
the
mediated
portion
of
that
is
I'm,
I'm
sure,
there's
members
of
the
community
who
don't
feel
comfortable
or
even
safe,
potentially
talking
directly
to
any
of
us
or
specific.
H
You
know
if
they
have
a
issue
with
how
I'm
managing
things
they
might
not
feel
comfortable.
Talking
to
me
directly,
and
so
the
mediator's
role
would
be
to
to
hear
that
as
somebody
who's
trusted
by
the
community
and
who
understands
how
City
operations
work
to
hear
that
feedback
and
then
and
translate
it
to
us
so
again,
it
sort
of
it
seems
it
feels
to
me
like
an
a
more
accessible
way
to
get
towards
that
dialogue.
I
think
I
called
it
like
porosity
between
the
community
and
the
City
Hall.
H
I
think
I
I
mentioned
higher
I
had
mentioned
a
higher
figure
last
time
and
I
did
some
back
of
the
napkin
nap
math.
On
so
say,
we
were
con
common,
compensating
the
community
at
fifty
dollars
per
meeting,
a
Community
member
and
then
potentially
the
same
amount
for
the
mediator
because
and
I'm
not
saying
that
has
to
be
the
number,
but
in
in
when
communities
around
Vermont
are
directly
compensating
marginalized
community
members
for
their
time,
sharing
their
direct
their
lived
experience.
H
That's
the
number
that
I
that
I've
always
seen
like
I,
haven't
even
seen
a
different
number
I,
don't
know
where
it
came
from,
but
it
seems
to
be
common.
So
if
we
use
that
and
I
divided
it
into
the
47
500
of
of
potential
Revenue
I
got
to
a
number
of
hours
that
City
staff
cannot
possibly
absorb
like.
Maybe
people
could
come
and
talk
to
us
and
we
would
have
no
time
to
deal
with
any
of
it
or
do
our
regular
jobs.
H
So
we
that's
still
an
optimistic
number.
What
we
built
in,
but
it's
it
seemed
like
a
more
I
think
a
budget
is
like.
We
have
two
meetings
a
week.
That's
still
a
lot.
I
have
to
tell
you
that's
a
lot
to
be
trying
to
act
on,
but
at
least
it
gives
us
some
room
for
say
you
know,
maybe
something
that
they
give
us
input
on,
would
cost
some
money
and
then
we'd
have
some
money
that
we
could
spend
on
that
or
translation
services
or
interpretation
services.
H
J
D
A
M
D
K
Sure
I
we
haven't
talked
I,
don't
believe
so.
Forgive
me
if
we
have
about
the
interpretation
at
the
polls
being
a
cut
or
a
not
fund
in
the
tool,
that's
not
included
in
the
budget.
Currently
so
previous
town
meeting
day,
we
did
have
interpretation
at
the
polls,
but
we
wouldn't
have
it
for
future.
For
this,
for
March
24th
town
meeting
on
in
this
budget
is
that
is
that
the
intention
of
that
line
in
that
budget
tool.
K
K
L
A
V
So
this
so
Thrive
typically
runs
depending
on
the
school
calendar,
six
or
seven
weeks,
and
that's
driven
by
access
to
the
school
building.
So
usually
the
first
or
second
week
in
August
the
school
says
we
need
a
few
weeks
to
clean
up,
get
ready
for
the
school
year,
so
Thrive
is
not
able
to
access
the
school
building.
So
at
this
past,
two
summers
with
Esser
funding.
What
we've
been
able
to
do
is
add
on
both
the
front
and
back
end
of
the
summer.
V
Some
additional
full
week,
full
day
camps,
run
through
the
recreation
department,
which
is
not
something
we
had
done
historically.
So
really,
what
it's
allowed
us
to
do
is
have
more
Continuous
Care
for
kids.
During
the
summer
those
camps
are
typically
a
little
smaller,
so
Thrive
was
running
around
60
kids
A
week.
Those
camps
were
ride
closer
between
20
and
30,
just
based
on
where
we
could
be,
but
still
that's,
20
or
30
kids
A
week
in
those
weeks
of
the
summer
that
we
really
able
to
care,
for
you
know
full
day
full
week.
Okay,.
A
V
I
wonder
what
changed
poorly
to
be
clear,
yeah
and
I.
Don't
think
that's
something
we
want
to
go
back
to
I!
Think
that,
with
the
increase
in
programming
that
we've
seen
I
don't
think
we
could
continue
to
offer
programming
as
we
are
and
do
a
good
job
managing
that
space.
For
folks
I
mean
we
were
quite
candidly,
giving
folks
a
key
and
saying
we'll
see
you
Monday
good
luck
in
there
and
that's
not
a
good
service.
V
Exactly
and
we
were
dealing
then
with
a
lot
of
cleanup
and
damage
and
issues
you
know,
building
being
left
open
on
the
weekend,
so
we've
we've
tried
to
I
think
learn
with
some
of
the
successes
that
the
previous
tenant
in
renting
spaces
was
exhibiting
around
how
to
how
to
kind
of
run
a
public
space
and
trying
to
trying
to
mirror
some
of
that.
So,
okay.
V
That's
General
supplies
which,
by
our
terminology,
is
sort
of
office
supplies
anything
that
could
be
used,
sort
of
portably
across
departments
and
then
Specialty
Supplies
are
more
typically
like
in
our
case.
You
know
dodgeballs
and
basketballs,
and
while
those
would
probably
be
fun
for
my
friends
at
Public
Works,
not
something
that
they
would
typically
use
in
their
day-to-day.
V
J
V
V
V
V
D
J
U
F
J
H
F
U
A
L
A
A
K
Yeah
I
mean
I,
guess
I'll,
start
by
saying
that
the
attempt
to
keep
the
tax
rate
to
five
percent
with
buy
down
by
arpa
is
and
pre-committing
or
kicking
hard
decisions
down.
The
road
is
uncomfortable
to
me
and
I
want
to
put
that
out
there
in
the
open
that,
whatever
even
if
we
just
accept
the
level
Services
budget,
that
that's
what
we're
doing
and
I
think
that's
also
important
to
square
I,
do
think
it
is
somewhat
in
keeping
with
the
charge
of
the
tip
in
keeping
tax
rate
increases
low
in
the
future.
K
That's
what
this
would
do,
but
it
is
kind
of
a
pre.
We
are
assuming
that
that
decision
will
be
kept
into
the
future
and
that's
not
clear
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
the
significant
expansion
of
community
services
that
this
would
represent.
This
is
an
institutionalization
of
a
bunch
of
services
that
we
were
not
providing
before
and
that
were
expected
to
be
temporary
once
as
per
once.
Once
s
are
expired,
they
would
go
away
and
that
the
equity
director
was
modeled
as
a
permanent
position.
K
That
would
persist
Beyond
Grant
funds
and,
as
I've
reflected
on
that
and
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
propose
keeping
I'm
I'm
really
interested
in
moving
from
not
from
a
statement
to
action
and
I.
Think
that's
the
Esser
funded
positions
have
done
that
and
I
think
that
there
is
some
as
I've
kind
of
tried
to
find
a
way
to
get
to
something.
Different
I've
come
back
to
those
community
services
and
recreational
program
that
we
provided
is
doing.
K
In
some
ways
we
tried
something
that
it
worked
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
can
keep
all
of
it,
but
I
think
that
there's
some
wisdom
in
keeping
some
of
it
so
I,
while
I'm
uncomfortable
to
some
extent
with
changing
that
expectation.
I,
do
see
the
wisdom
in
it
likewise,
I
think
the
having
dedicated
funding
for
language
access
and
for
some
form
of
Community
engagement
around
Equity
is
critical.
I,
don't
know
that
the
community,
the
mediated
Community
Voices
program,
is
the
right
tool.
K
I
think
that
city
tours,
which
has
been
fleshed
out
and
discussed
and
proposed
before,
would
also
be
another
way
to
do
something
similar,
but
I
think
that
that
bringing
on
an
equity
director
without
those
resources
to
affect
some
of
the
work
that
they
want
to
do
would
also
recreate
a
failure
that
we've
already
had
in
that
program.
We're
in
that
position
or
a
obstacle
that
that
position
encountered
of
having
a
lot
of
mandate
and
very
few
resources
at
their
disposal.
K
So
I
think
that,
if
we're
going
to
keep
in
find
a
way
to
keep
inequity
or
to
keep
the
equity
director
position
it
that
has
to
come
with
resources,
I
think
it's
telling
that
we
haven't
gotten
a
single
application
for
a
housing
direct
initiative
director
that
has
the
equity
audit
identified.
Housing
is
probably
the
most
critical
level
we
can
pull
at
the
city
solely
on
our
own
I.
Think
that
we
need
to
get
that
one
right
and
if
we
don't,
then
we're
failing
at
a
thing
that
our
community
has
told
us
to
do
that.
K
Our
Equity
audit
has
told
us
to
do
and
that
we
hear
regularly
from
residents
today
and
before
that
that
we
need
to
is
get
on
our
housing
work
and
it's
been
we're.
Keeping
it
together
and
Heather
was
really
great
at
doing
that.
Work
on
a
limited
amount
of
time
and
I
think
we
could
really
deep
and
forward
with
that.
If
we're
not
going
to
get
a
candidate
at
40
at
30
hours,
we
need
to
rethink
that
decision.
D
K
To
be
to
move
the
housing
director
back
to
40
hours
a
week
to
cut
the
second
circulation
assistant
for
thrive
aside
for
the
library
and
to
add
in
interpretation
at
the
polls
and
at
quarterly
meetings
as
budget
items,
that
would
take
us
to
a
5.15
tax
rate
increase,
which
is
above
our
5.0.
We
could
buy
that
back
down
or
sorry
to
remove
the
community
community
mediated
voices
program
that
bring
us
to
5.15.
K
G
J
J
I
want
to
note
that
the
housing
manager
position
has
also
just
been
posted
in
Burlington,
so
we
lately
would
have
some
competition
of
interest
from
that
from
that
municipality,
I
I
really
do
see
a
need
to
retain
the
youth
interventionist
from
our
listening
sessions.
Multiple
times,
it's
been
indicated.
How
essential
that
is
to
to
ensuring
supports
for
our
our
youth
are
stable
and
in
place.
J
J
I
haven't
done
the
math,
so
I
apologize
given
that
we've.
We
just
heard
this
last
meeting
about
the
desperate
need
to
have
more
feelings
of
connection
in
the
community
and
the
increased
interest
of
you
utilizing
the
O'brien,
Center
I
I
think
there
is
value
to
ensuring
that
we
have
a
mechanism.
We
have
the
supports
to
allowing
rentals
for
that
space.
M
I
I
As
for
the
equity
director
position,
specifically
I
think
it
is
short-sighted
to
cut
that
position
when
instead,
we
could
think
about
ways
to
make
it
sustainable.
For
example,
Elaine
brought
up
have
the
equity
director
could
meet
with
constituents.
I.
Don't
necessarily
agree
with
that.
If
we
re-looked
at
that
job
description
and
made
it
more
internal
facing
like
our
housing
initiatives,
director
say
an
equity
initiatives
director
position,
we
could
find
a
way
to
make
it
sustainable.
I
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
situation
Yaz
was
in
is
not
the
situation
we
have
now
where
Yaz
was
working
without
having
a
city
manager
and
in
part
without
having
a
nature,
our
director,
so
that
is
some
very
specific
Staffing
increases.
The
other
another
item
is
that
Elaine
and
Leadership
have
been
doing
work
since
Yaz
has
left
that
position
and
I
think
it
would
I
think
I
don't
want
our
city
manager
to
kind
of
discount
their
effort
that
they
have
put
towards
making
things
better.
I
I
also
am
concerned
with
this
idea
of
not
having
that
expertise.
It
feels
short-sighted
in
that,
like
it
would
be
blinding
us
like
if
we
didn't
have
Angela,
to
tell
us
about
financial
goals.
If
we
didn't
have
someone
kind
of
yes,
each
of
our
directors
and
Leadership
level
are
doing
budget
work
that
is
key
to
their
jobs,
but
Angela's
there
as
a
expert,
a
Content
expert,
so
have
thinking
about
that
director
position
as
a
Content
expert
is
key.
I
I
agree
that
it
needs
additional
support
and
that
the
youth
interventionist
is
one
of
those
supports
having
that
community
outreach
that
the
other
leadership
is
doing
would
be
a
support
and
would
take
some
of
that
pressure
off
some
other
items
that
are
currently
in
place.
We
have
the
inclusion
and
belonging
Commission
Now,
much
like
with
the
housing
position
having
that
is
both
a
support
to
that
position,
and
that
position
is
of
support
to
the
work
of
that
commission.
I
This
is
a
discredit
to
all
the
work
that
she
did
in
making
the
city
more
Equitable
and
also
all
the
work
that
has
been
done
since
to
make
the
city
more
equitable
I.
Also
don't
like
this.
What
has
come
up
with
like
we're
now
is
not
the
time
for
an
equity
director
that
the
city
isn't
ready.
What
is
that
telling
or
staff
of
color
and
our
residents
of
color
and
other
residents
are
who
face
discrimination
that
we
are
saying
we're
not
ready
for
equity?
I
But
if
they
were
there
to,
you
know
be
that
guidance
of
Elaine
brought
our
let's
see,
Christine
asked
us
after
or
ask
the
council
members
four
areas
they
would
prioritize
after
we
had
our
Equity
training,
and
my
argument
to
that
is:
where
can't
we
prioritize
Equity,
there's
equity
in
where
we
plant
trees,
there's
equity
in
where
we
are
allowing
there's
equity
in
the
books
that
we
have
in
our
library.
Equity
is
a
key
part
of
every
single
one
of
our
positions.
I
That
is
clear
and
we
need
to
support
that,
but
we
also
need
an
equity
director
to
have
that
cons,
content,
expertise
to
say,
helper
housing
initiatives
to
tractor
to
be
that
person
who
can
advise
Counsel
on
areas
of
policy
that
can
be
worked
on
and
improved
to
limit
to
harm,
because
that's
the
other
thing
is
this
work
is
going
to
be
done
anyway,
right,
it's
being
done
by
a
lane,
and
it's
not
and
it's
being
done
by
other
people
in
the
city.
That
is
key.
We
still
need
that.
I
I
If
we
want
to
vote
on
to
pause
this
position
and
see
that
never
come
back,
because
I
think
there's
always
going
to
be
arguments
of
why
we
can't
afford
Equity
or
why
Equity
is
the
first
thing
that
falls
off.
Equity
is
a
key
service.
It's
just
as
key
service
as
every
other
work.
The
city
is
doing
and
I
think
if
we
think
that
it's
something
that
can
just
be
held
on
its
own,
we
aren't
going
to
progress
forward.
A
L
L
L
L
L
I
know
that
the
seniors
feel
like
they
are
not
listened
to
and
they
have
a
lot
of
asks
from
the
city
in
terms
of
funding,
but
one
that
they
seem
to
all
kind
of
stand
behind.
Is
funding
this
Senior
Center
Director
to
go
from
a
part-time
position
to
a
full-time
position,
so
I
would
advocate
for
that
as
well
and
then
kind
of
my
original.
L
L
L
The
wait
times
have
only
of
not
having
enough
police
on
staff.
Again,
it's
probably
not
something
we
discussed
for
this
budget,
but
I
do
think.
We
need
to
think
about
those
requirements
as
well
and
then
the
second.
What
Aurora
was
saying
I
would
be
quite
favorable
to
supporting
the
equity
director
through
arpa.
L
They
were
originally
Grant
funded,
so
I
feel
like
barpa
is
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
a
grant
that
we
received
from
the
government
two
to
three
years,
not
using
all
of
our
parts
towards
it
or
a
huge
amount,
but
I
think
giving
that
a
community
director
which
isn't
uncommon
in
many
positions
the
time
to
find
underground
stuff
on
their
position.
I
think
if
we
funded
it
for
a
few
years,
it
would
give
them
an
opportunity.
A
A
A
A
A
H
A
K
I
No,
it's
not
debate
I'm
just
concerned
about
so
yes,
we
are
leadership,
but
ultimately,
what
we
vote
on
is
going
to
go
to
the
community
to
have
their
final
say.
So
we
could,
you
know,
put
forward
an
increase
like
acknowledge
the
fact
that
we
have
kept
taxes
so
low
for
so
long
and
that
has
created
a
build
up
in
addition
to
inflation.
So
we
could
come
to
them
with
a
higher
than
five
percent,
not
saying
that
I
want
to,
but
then
they
can
tell
us
what
they
think
right.
I
K
I
mean
that,
but
that's
our
job
yeah,
just
to
put
together
like
what
we
have
to
do,
is
propose
a
budget
and
they
get
to
vote
on
it.
I
think
that
is
yes.
That
is
true
and
I.
Think,
like
doubling
the
community
services
general
fund
commitment,
is
our
message
like
this
is
where
we
have
chosen
to
focus
our
Equity
work
in
investing
in
the
Housing
Initiative
directors,
where
we've
chosen
to
focus
our
Equity
work
and
I,
really
don't
I'm
not
going
to
debate,
but
I
think
we
got
to
separate
Equity
director
from
Equity
work.
K
There's
the
program
of
work
we're
doing
in
this
community
that
is
broader
than
one
person
and
should
be
and
has
to
be
and
currently
is
and
has
been
progressing
without
that
position
could
be
progressing
better,
probably
with
that
position,
but
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
doing
it
and
I
think
that
to
tell
that
message
is
not
to
say
that
without
the
equity
director
we
are
not
doing.
Equity
work
is
disingenuous
to
all
the
hard
work.
That's
that
is
currently
happening
that
explicitly
directs
addresses,
equity
and
I.
K
D
I
K
True,
but
we
also
have
some
of
the
highest
tax
rates
in
the
county,
and
that's
that
is
a
narrative.
It's.
It
is
the
truth
and
we
have
a
high
tax
rate
already.
So
it's
not
that
we
have
low
taxes
and
we're
trying
to
get
up
there.
It's
like
we
already
have
high
taxes
because
of
our
peculiar
Arrangement
and
geography.
D
K
We
are
a
full-service
City
that
provides
full
police,
full
fire,
no
EMS
and
full
community
services
and
a
combined
School
District
like
we
do
it
all
in
our
little
1.6
square
miles,
and
we
don't
have
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
every
penny.
On
the
tax
rate
we
get
50.
and
I.
Think
we
got
a
like
it's
so
I,
don't
think
it's
a
question
of
under
investment
in
low
tax
rates.
I
think
is
that
we've
we've
already
are
high
tax,
we're
trying
to
keep
increased
flow.
K
This
increase
is
already
higher
than
what
we're
seeing
in
neighboring
communities
percentage-wise
as
well,
so
I
mean
we're
we're
really
stuck
and
I.
Think
we've
got
to
be
honest
about
what
we're
investing
in
and
and
we
are
making
a
trade-off.
It's
a
choice
but-
and
we
can
put
the
vote
that
to
the
voters
and
they
can
decide
this
budget
is
two
Community
Services
heavy
and
needs
to
go
more
to
equity.
Director,
like
that,
could
be
a
decision
that
voters
make,
but
I
think
that
should
be
made
as
part
of
the
budget
decision.
A
U
A
A
D
D
U
U
U
I
Can
we
talk
about
the
regional
dispatch
yep,
so
I
wanted
to
revisit
it
specifically
because
mayor
you
brought
up
last
time
that
you
would
not
support
removing
this
item
because
it
was
backed
by
the
voters.
I
want
to
bring
up
my
feeling
that
I,
don't
believe
Regional
dispatch,
as
it
currently
exists,
is
what
our
voters
what
they
voted
on,
because
there
is
no
Shelburne.
They
voted
it
down,
there's
no
Milton
or
Colchester,
who
both
dropped
out
and
there's
no
Williston
Police.
So
that
is
no
longer
Regional.
I
That
aspect
that
benefit
of
being
tied
in
with
the
other
cities
and
towns
in
the
region
and
it's
continuing
to
cost
us
more
so
I
would
be
in
favor
of
removing
that
as
well
as
then
removing
the
police
admin
position
and
it
I,
don't
even
think
us
doing
that
would
quote,
unquote,
kill
this
project.
We
might
be
able
to
come
back
to
it
if
others
also
come
back
to
it.
So
I
don't
know.
G
A
A
H
Could
I
so
until
Colchester
pulled
out,
we
were
still
projecting
savings
as
well,
eventually
so
and
then
the
expectation
of
refunds
for
any
cost
that
the
initial
communities
that
involved
in
standing
it
up
would
incur
until
it
was
ready
for
you
know,
prime
time
so
to
speak.
So
my
feeling
is
that
if
there
came
to
be
a
time
when
it
was
going
to
cause
minuski
more
I
would
come
back
to
you
or
the
voters
or
both
and
say.
E
H
There's
other
considerations,
obviously,
if
there's
service
quality
I'm
not
saying
that
the
cost
is
the
only
thing
but
again
I
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question
yet
or
whether
or
not
it
will
cost
someone
to
schemara.
We
don't
know
that.
Unfortunately,
timing
isn't
great
you're
looking
at
a
bad
budget
decision
without
that
knowledge,
but
we
don't
actually
know
whether
it
will
or
not
cost
minuski
more.
U
J
H
Well,
I'll
say
that
Burlington
has
to
do
something
and
South
Burlington
wants
to
do
something.
I
mean
it's
not
different
from
what
I
told
you
before
my
feeling
is
that
kind
of
what
councilor
heard
was
alluding
to
those
are
the
the
two
dogs
wagging
the
collective
tail?
You
know
right,
so
my
guess
is
something
will
happen
whether
or
not
that
something
will
then
be
charged
us
at
a
rate
that
we're
expecting
I
have
no
idea.
U
Increases
the
depth
of
the
bench
for
dispatchers
during
emergencies
that
you
can
still
take
calls
during
a
major
event
which
we
currently
there's
one
dispatcher
sitting
in
the
chair.
If
there's
a
major
event
and
they're
trying
to
build
other
informational
calls
at
the
same
time
it's
a
it
can
be
a
very
stressful
and
potentially
dangerous
situation.
I
H
H
I
H
I
I
A
A
Okay,
Angela.
Let
me
just
let's
align
on
what
we're
looking
at
again:
okay.
Okay,
so
can
you
start
back
at
the
top
sure,
let's
put
pause,
Equity
director
back
to
yes,
we
have
the
housing
director
at
no
leave
the
leave.
The
youth
interventionist,
as
is
the
sick
assistant,
eliminated
we're
keeping
the
other
things
St
Michael's
Amendment.
We
want
that
right
because
that's
what
shifts
us
from
47
to
9
000.
H
A
I
R
U
G
U
I
I
A
E
A
Ourselves,
in
a
less
than
ideal
place
from
using
grant
money
to
fund
positions,
ongoing
and
I
I
still
believe
that
we
are
doing
with
this
proposal.
We
are
doing
a
lot
of
foundational
groundwork.
That's
necessary!
That's
going
to
better
support
that
position
in
the
future,
but
it's
it's
certainly
not
just
up
to
me.
L
L
So
I
think
if
we
funded
that
position
using
Orba
for
two
to
three
years,
we
would
still
have
just
over
a
million
dollars
to
use,
which
is
a
good
chunk
of
money.
It's
not
the
biggest
chunk
of
money,
but
I
think
it's
still
a
good
amount
of
urban
funds
to
use
to
fund
whatever
we
decided.
We
want
to
use
our
bomb
I
know
it's,
maybe
not
exactly
what
we
had
thought
of
for
arpa.
L
A
L
It
was
definitely
something
I,
don't
think.
I
would
have
initially
considered
every
Town's
using
it
differently.
Sometimes
I've
just
used
it
straight
up
for
infrastructure.
Others
are
still
waiting
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
it.
Each
Town's
needs
for
orcas
are
different,
and
winnersky
is
always
is
a
very
different
city
than
everybody
else.
D
H
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
discuss
with
it
with
any
of
you,
but
staff
recommendation
on
youth
of
arpa
is
to
wait
until
the
Main
Street
bids
come
in
because
there
is
the
danger
that
they
might
be
higher.
I
cannot
guarantee
that
and
again
it's
unfortunate.
The
timing
is
working
out
that
you
don't
know
if
we're
being
able
to
make
an
informed
decision
about
that
proposal,
but
that
is
a
possibility.
H
A
H
D
J
D
J
Office,
so
it's
just
it's:
it's
cautionary
to
use,
one-time
funds
for
operational
needs
and,
and
so
I
I.
Just
caution
have
to
caution
us
with
you
know
we
it's
unclear
if
we'll
be
able
to
access
this
same
amount
of
money
in
the
future,
where
we
don't,
we
don't
have
the
same.
Grant
reporting
needs.
We
know
that's
a
burden
on
our
staff.
It's
time
intensive
to
apply
for
and
trying
to
you
know
poke
at
projects
and
reducing
those
costs.
J
We
already
have
a
number
of
different
grants
that
we've
we've
chasing
after
for
some
of
the
larger
projects,
but
it's
just
you
know.
We
gotta
I
I,
just
recommend
looking
at
a
cohesively,
a
Time
resources
capacity
because
we're
hearing
time
and
time
again
where
that's
that's
one
of
the
greatest
struggles
from
you
know.
Looking
at
the
the
community
mediation,
you
know
ten
thousand
dollars
for
that,
but
that's
still
being
resource
intensive,
so
I
just
have
to
caution
about
using
one-time
funds
for
operations.
U
Thank
you
for
mentioning
that
bird,
because
using
one,
the
one-time
funding
and
reserves
or
operational
costs
actually
against
our
existing
fund
balance
Reserve
policy
that
was
approved
by
Council.
That
does
really
recommend
that
those
types
of
monies
be
used
for
either
one-time
costs
or
operating
costs
that
have
an
identified
cancer.
Source
that's
coming
in
the
future
and
is
known.
U
K
The
uncertainties
with
the
SRO
position
and
what
I
don't
know
what
will
happen
with
the
school
budget
this
year
in
that
position
and
the
likely
of
eight
to
higher
percent
increase
on
construction
bid
prices
that
were
seen
in
other
places.
I
think
this
is
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
wait
until
June
to
make
these
decisions
about
one-time
funds
at
least
I.
Don't.
A
K
When
we
can't
do
Main
Street,
because
we
can't
make
the
total
cost
because
of
the
bond
amount
so
like
I,
just
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
and
if,
if
arpa
is
a
way
to
avoid
that,
I
think
that
that's
prudent
to
wait
and
to
the
point
of
that
decision
about
the
equity
director
and
using
these
one-time
funds
for
that
purpose.
Whether
or
not
we
change
our
policies
to
allow
it
still
does
not
need
to
be
made
tonight
or
next
Monday.
A
I'd
like
to
start
on
that
Aurora,
because
we
talked
about
this
and
initially
I
was
interested
in
the
idea
of
putting
it
to
voters,
but
the
more
I've
reflected
on
it.
I,
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea.
I
think
it
puts
voters
too
in
the
weeds
of
operations.
You
know
when
we
had
Heather
leave
the
ceto
role.
A
I
A
I
J
Right,
I
guess
I
I,
just
to
pose
a
slightly
different
perspective
on
that
I've
spent
a
great
portion
of
my
career
working
in
state
government
and
it's
very
common
for
the
executive
branch
to
get
authorized
from
a
legislative
branch,
an
FTE
or
a
number
of
ftes,
and
then
because
there's
a
requirement
for
level
funding
for
whatever
you
know.
This
has
happened
within
the
last
five
years:
five
to
ten
years
for
the
executive
branch,
where
the
budgets
were
imbalanced,
the
executive
branch
usually
when
they
get
authorized
an
FTE.
J
They
want
to
retain
it
and
they
don't
want
to
have
to
relinquish
that
back
into
the
into
the
legislative
general
fund
for
it
to
be
reallocated
so
from
the
executive
branch
side
of
things.
It's
really
common
for
positions
to
be
put
on
hold
or
to
be
frozen
so
that
the
budget
can
then
be
balanced
so
that
the
position
can
be
refilled.
So
I
guess
I've
just
seen
and
experienced
it
from
a
different
perspective.
A
I
would
say
we
also
add
stat,
we've
added
staff
to
previous
budgets.
We're
kind
of
doing
that
here
right,
like
we'll,
be
adding
staff
next
year.
This
could
be
next
year
could
be
when
this
position
fits
back
in
I.
Think
to
Bryn's
point
it's
like
it's
a
practice.
We
put
things
on
pause
and
then
we
bring
it
back
when
we
can.
J
So
I
think
it
I,
don't
think
overall
and
generally
speaking,
it's
a
desire
of
any
of
us
to
pause.
This
position
I
think
we're
looking
at
extremely
challenging
budget
and
I
I
honestly
was
a
little
relieved
to
hear
you
say
you
haven't
experienced
this
since
you've
been
on
Council,
because
I'm
like
this
is
like
nothing.
It
was
last
year
yeah
this.
J
J
Yes,
we
we
are
getting
some
some
increase
in
federal
funding.
However,
that's
not
keeping
up
with
inflation,
it's
not
keeping
up
with
so
many
of
our
other
obligations
for
to
meet
our
salaries
and
benefits
and
to
try
and
also
maintain
the
valuable
services
that
the
community
wants.
At
the
same
time,
it's
it's
not
it's
extremely
challenging.
K
K
K
D
K
A
So
I
haven't
heard
anyone
really
change
positions
again.
What
we
have
here
is
moving
the
Housing
Initiative
director
up
to
40.,
retaining
the
reduced
youth,
interventionist,
retaining
Community
Services
admin
and
Rec
assistant
and
the
children
family
program
manager,
including
the
mediated
voices,
Community
engagement
and
interpretation
funding
and
then
removing
the
second
circulation
assistant
and
including
arpa,
to
reach
five.
I
A
L
U
K
I
Thinking
about.
You
know
making
sure
that
they
have
the
resources
they
need
to
use
that
kind
of
what
they
their
resources
to
the
best
of
their
ability.
So,
balancing
the
circulation
assistant,
which,
as
we
heard
from
the
Community
member,
is
a
huge
support
towards
freeing
up
kind
of
their
time
to
do.
Work
like
look
for
other
funds
and
present
programming
versus
a
youth
interventionist,
which
also
is
very
important
to
them
and
important
to
other
aspects
of
the
community
and
our
Equity
work.
J
V
Both
really
important
in
very
different
ways,
right
so
to
Daisy's,
Point
earlier
I,
think
having
that
second
circuit
assistant
has
really
freed
Nate
and
Kirsten
up
from
spending
time
sitting
at
that
desk,
checking
out
books
and
doing
administrative
tasks
and
kind
of
open
them
up
to
doing
more
resource
seeking
program
development
program
delivery.
Community
outreach
Kirsten
actually
does
a
lot
of
time
out
in
the
community
as
well.
She
goes
to
daycare
daycare,
centers,
Thrive,
Etc,
so
I
think
some
of
those
programmatic
pieces
would
have
to
scale
back
realistically.
V
The
the
youth
interventionist
position
and
I've
said
this
in
my
presentation:
it's
hard
for
me
to
imagine
a
10
to
12
hour
position
in
that
role
being
successful
candidly
and
not
because
there's
a
lack
of
need
but
I
think
recruitment
for
a
10
to
12
hour
position
of
that
nature
would
be
really
tough
and
I.
Think
realistically,
the
caseload,
the
volume
of
folks
you
can
support
I.
V
For
us
to
supplement,
what's
lost
when
with
a
second
circulation
assistant,
more
so
than
I
could
see
ways
for
us
to.
You
can't
get
a
volunteer
to
be
a
youth
interventionist,
for
instance.
Potentially
we
could
look
at
you,
know
youth
training
programs
or
volunteer
programs
to
bring
in
some
extra
Circ
support,
so
I
think
if
I
had
to
choose
operationally
one
or
the
other
I
think
the
28
hours
of
Youth
interventionists
would
be
preferable
to
the
circus
system.
V
A
K
V
V
V
Ways
to
trim
that
back,
probably
yes,
I,
think
one
of
the
things
that
it
would
limit
our
ability
to
to
do
is
to
bring
in
new
programs.
You
know
we'd
be
kind
of
stuck
working
with
the
equipment
and
materials
that
we
have
by
and
large,
and
so
it
does
I
think,
hamper
flexibility
and
creativity
for
staff.
But
is
it
you
know?
Is
the
department
going
to
implode
if
that
number
shrinks
down?
No,
but
I
think
it
would
definitely
require.
E
V
V
Yeah,
yeah
and
I
think
I
mean
generally
I.
Think
the
people
are
the
the
more
critical
limiting
factor
than
the
stuff,
yeah
I.
Think.
There's
always
you
know,
there's
ways
to
figure
out
this
stuff
again,
not
advocating
for
that
cut,
but
I
think.
If
push
came
to
shove,
that
would
be
I.
Think
the
human
capacity
is
more
important.
A
K
I
mean
if
we
cut
the
circassistant
m4k
from
the
Esser
related
device.
That's
the
difference
between
a
28
and
a
12-hour.
Youth
interventionist
according
to
this
tool,
says
21
savings
for
reducing
to
12
and
it's
38
for
a
cutting
entirely
so
Delta.
For
me,
there
is
17
000.
stroke
assistant
is
13,
there's
10K
and
S
are
related.
So
if
you
were
to
produce
s36
cut
the
circle
assistant,
you
keep
your
youth
interventionist
at
28
hours,
and
that
sounds
like.
That
combination
has
the
most
operational
bang
for
the
buck.
K
A
I
A
J
J
H
J
G
A
J
So
one
other
proposal
that
I
that
we
could
consider
reducing
based
off
of
capacity
is
the
mediated
Community
boys
program.
It
made
it
sound
earlier
that
10
000
was
potentially
higher
than
what
staff
would
even
have
capacity
potentially
yeah,
so
would
reducing
that
to
8
000
feel
like
it's
still
gives
you
enough
room.
H
H
J
U
A
D
A
J
A
I
D
A
H
And
I
I
just
want
to
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
Council
just
went
through.
Obviously,
staff
had
a
lot
to
go
on
to,
but
I
recognize.
This
is
a
her
budget
year.
I
did
not
like
recommending
this
much
that
I
recommended,
but
I
do
feel
like
you've
exercised
a
lot
of
responsibility
and
diligence.
So
we
appreciate
that
so
the
goal
update
for
all,
in
short,
we're
either
underway
on
almost
all
items
or
have
a
plan
to
make
some
progress
in
this
fiscal
year.
H
A
H
H
It
is
does
include
remote
Services,
it's
all
of
we
call
Managed
services
or
they
call
it
managed
services
in
the
industry.
It's
basically
making
sure
that
all
of
our
stuff
stays
patched
up
to
date.
All
of
our
networking
is
solid.
Any
tech
support
that
happens
with
any
networking,
but
also
our
computers
and
make
sure
individual
station
workstations
are
working
and
are
some
printer
supportable.