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From YouTube: Community Wealth Through Peacebuilding: When We Build Together, We Thrive Together | Peace Talks
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From Peace Talks:
This is the season one finale of Peace Talks, hosted by Daniel Parkins. We have all our previous guests from the season back on the show to hold dialogue with each other on how we can work together to build community wealth. We draw from the shared experience of each of the previous episodes to reflect on our individual parts to play in the community and how these roles can take on new meaning when we make the intentional choice to engage in community together.
Rajnii Eddins — Poet, Author, Community Organizer, and Director of Cultural Empowerment at the Richard Kemp Center
Scotty Lowry — Entrepreneur, Advocate for Social Change, and Co-Founder of Know Your Force
Tamara Eklof Parks — Educator, Advocate, and Director of the Multilingual Program at the Essex Westford School District
Jason Van Nest — Architect, professor at NYTech, and the founder & CEO of LOGIC Building Systems
Will Dodge — Chair of the Essex Energy Committee and acting Deputy Partner of DRM Law Firm
6/16/2023
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A
Too
often
the
media
focuses
exclusively
on
the
violent
and
tumultuous
crises
occurring
daily
around
the
world
and
with
clickbait
exploiting
negative
social
events
for
the
sake
of
increased
ratings
in
Revenue.
There
are
few
incentives
for
media
Outlets
to
focus
on
the
good
that
is
happening
in
the
world.
Even
media
channels
dedicated
to
peace
building,
sustainable
development
remain
focused
on
the
ills
of
corruption,
war
and
conflict,
rather
than
the
efforts
of
Peace
Builders
within
those
conflicts.
A
But
peace
talks
too,
and
with
this
show,
the
voice
of
Peace
will
be
Amplified.
Mr
Rogers
is
often
quoted
in
saying
that,
when
crisis
strikes
look
for
the
helpers,
this
show
intends
to
do
just
that
every
day,
right
here
in
Vermont's
and
abroad,
there
are
thousands
of
engaged
citizens
actively
building
peace.
A
We
plan
to
amplify
their
efforts
and
we
seek
to
develop
a
platform
where
peace
Builders
all
over
can
connect
with
each
other
across
social
boundaries
and
Industry
sectors
to
collaborate
for
the
benefit
of
our
Collective
community.
Folks.
Welcome
to
the
season
finale
of
peace
talks.
We
are
meeting
with
all
our
previous
guests
from
season.
One
including
rajni
Edens
to
my
left,
will
Dodge
to
rajni's
left.
A
A
So,
let's
just
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions
with
updates
from
each
of
the
each
of
our
guests
with
you
know
what
on
on
what
work
you've
been
doing
since
you
were
last
on
the
show
and
let
us
know
what
else
you've
been
up
to
in
terms
of
building
peace
in
our
communities
all
right.
Thank
you.
Well,
let's
start
with
you
rajni
you
were,
you
were
on
the
show
in
January.
So
what
have
you
been
up
to
since
then?.
B
B
A
A
B
Think
we're
just
under
the
8
000
Mark,
but
once
we
went
reached
10-3
in
this
next
23
days,
we'll
have
a
match
of
twenty
thousand
six
to
be
able
to
infuse
into
the
camp
center
proper
for
renovations
of
the
space
and
adding
technology.
So
it
feels
good
to
be
in
this
space
where
we're
adding
to
our
engagement
with
Community
add
into
opportunities
to
improve
the
services
that
we
provide
for
our
folks
and
still
keeping
the
Blackwater
showcases
active.
The
black
Is
Beautiful
film
series
alive
I'm.
C
B
Engaging
with
new
ways
to
express
ourselves
and
to
connect
with
community
Through
offering
opportunities
for
self-expression
and
this
week
is
going
to
be
particularly
lit
because
we
have
Juneteenth
celebrations
throughout
the
weekend.
We're
going
to
be
performing
at
the
Flynn
theater.
Some
of
our
youth
artists
will
be
debuting
in
space
and
sharing
some
of
the
work
they've
been
creating
for
upcoming
Publications
that
they're
working
on
and.
A
A
A
D
Tool
that
we've
got
has
just
been
a
really
interesting
product
and
we've
ventured
into
the
SMS
space
so,
rather
than
just
after
an
officer
passed
out
a
business
card.
You
know
now,
if
you
call
into
a
Dispatch
Center
you're
then
sent
out
a
text
message,
and
so
that's
been
a
really
interesting
addition
to
our
our
service,
offering
just
because
it's
an
automated
system,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
police
departments
gather
a
lot
more
feedback
which
has
been
awesome
and
what
we're
looking
to
get
into
is
the
school
systems.
D
C
B
A
D
A
That's
fantastic,
no
just
for
everyone's
kind
of
a
reminder
of
of
exactly
what
that
feedback
tool
is.
Scotty's
businesses
know
your
force
and
he
it's
a
community
feedback
tool
for
police
departments
to
interact
with
the
with
the
public
I
would
strongly
encourage
anyone
who
is
interested
in
learning
more
about
that
subject
to
to
look
at
episode,
two
of
peace
talks.
A
We
went
into
depth
about
how
that
product
works
and
the
way
that
it
is
creating
new
avenues
for
police
officers
and
police
departments
to
engage
in
genuine
dialogue
and
to
be
a
little
vulnerable.
In
order
to
rebuild
that
trust
and
Rapport,
that's
necessary
for
police
departments
to
function
effectively
in
community
right,
and
so
I
really
appreciate.
Hearing
that
you're
now
trying
to
expand
more
into
public
education
as
well.
A
She
is
the
coordinator
for
the
Essex
Westford
School
District's,
multilingual
family
program,
so
she
works
with
new
Americans
refugees
and
any
individuals
that
have
the
that
speak
multiple
languages
in
their
home
and
it's
I've
been
a
part
of
her
parent
advisory
group
for
the
multilingual
family
program.
For
about
eight
months
now-
and
it's
just
been
an
incredible
experience
to
have
that
opportunity
to
engage
in
in
the
diversity
the
rich
diversity
that
that
space
really
inhabits.
A
It's
it's
been
wonderful,
and
so
you
know
what
she's
doing
in
the
public
education
system
in
terms
of
creating
space
for
inclusion
and
belonging
and
and
creating
new
opportunities
and
developing
different
culture.
Natural
Norms,
about
how
students
engage
with
each
other
is
very
powerful
work
and
I
really
am
appreciative
of
the
things
that
she's
doing,
and
you
know
she.
She
comes
with
a
lot
of
personal
experience
there.
A
She
was
a
something
of
a
new
American
when
she
came
to
the
United
States
as
a
child
from
Russia
and
so
hearing
her
experience
in
episode,
three
as
a
child
versus
what
she's
trying
to
incorporate
into
the
school
systems.
Now,
as
an
adult
was
very
inspiring,
and
so
with
that
I
episode,
four
was
with
Jason
here
so
Jason.
What
have
you
been
up
to
for
the
past
couple
of
months?
Well,.
C
It's
been
exciting,
I'm,
an
architect,
I'm,
an
architecture,
teacher
and
I'm,
also
a
bit
of
an
entrepreneur
trying
to
start
up
the
modular
kitchens
and
bathrooms
for
multi-family
business
here
in
Vermont
that
we
spoke
about
at
length
from
the
architecture
perspective.
It's
just
been
terribly
exciting
to
see
the
recent
passage
of
s-100
here
in
Vermont
no
longer
making.
C
You
know,
multi-family
housing
illegal
in
over
99
of
the
surface
area
of
the
state
that
just
opens
up
all
sorts
of
new
ways
that
individual
households
can
contribute
to
the
the
housing
crisis.
We
Face
absolutely
from
an
architectural
professorial
point
of
view,
I'm
already
writing
a
new
studio
for
the
New
York
Tech
Capstone
studio
in
the
architecture
program
to
tackle
new
Innovative
and
creative
ways
that
individual
households
can
convert.
Single-Family
housing
in
places
like
Vermont
into
multi-family
housing.
A
C
C
C
Detailed,
our
our
plan
to
essentially
permanently
create
a
sort
of
Ip
Factory
incubator,
if
you
will
of
manufacturing
processes
in
southern
Vermont,
so
that
we
can
Outsource
and
partner
with
other
manufacturing
organizations
closer
to
large
real
estate
markets
and
produce
at
volume,
but
have
a
a
lot
of
that.
Profit
and
capital
come
back
as
Vermont
sales
tax
as
Vermont
income
and
ultimately,
as
Vermont
investment.
C
Know
ideally,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
partial
to
the
residential
market,
so
if
we
could
invest
even
more
into
the
residential
Market,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
really
not
just
ameliorating
the
housing
crisis,
not
just
addressing
the
housing
crisis,
but
we're
indirectly,
as
a
community,
making
sure
that
housing
is
not
an
aggrevant
to
equity
and
diversity
in
our
communities.
Right.
B
A
You
know
the
thing
that
I
really
enjoyed
learning
about
your
business
Jason
is
just
how
you
are
helping
to
overcome
those
types
of
conflicts.
By
bringing
that
conversation.
Much
earlier
in
the
development
phase
and
with
community
in
mind
right
and
so
that,
in
addition
to
you
know,
hopefully
helping
us
to
reduce
the
cost
of
homes,
thereby
making
it
more
accessible
for
a
much
wider.
You
know
and
diverse
group
of
populations.
I
I
I
really
applaud
your
efforts,
and
so
thanks.
A
Wonderful
one
last
introduction
here
will
Dodge.
He
was
actually
just
on
the
show
two
weeks
ago.
Yeah
we
are
our
fifth
episode
was
recorded
a
little
bit
later,
but
you
know
we
were
lucky
to
have,
will
come
and
participate,
he's
got
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
and
and
he
has
done,
an
incredible
job,
building
up
the
Essex
energy
Community
from
scratch
and
so
I'll.
Let
you
kind
of
speak
to
that.
E
C
E
And
I
think
the
most
exciting
thing
that's
happened,
maybe
since
the
last
show
is
that
you
know
we're
on
we're
sort
of
on
the
edge
of
this
decision
about
whether
to
go
forward
with
kind
of
a
like
an
energy,
fair
and
energy
Community
Presence
at
the
upcoming
Champlain
Valley
Fair,
which-
and
you
know
the
reason
that
we're
excited
about
it.
Sort
of
building
off
a
little
bit
about
Jason
is
what
Jason
was
saying.
Is
we've
got
s
100,
which
is
going
to
Spur
some
housing?
We
have
an
affordable.
You
know
the
clean.
C
E
Act
Right,
which
is
going
to
start
changing
how
people
are
approaching
thermal
we've,
got
all
this
infrastructure
money,
that's
starting
to
really
kind
of
flow
in,
but
we
got
to
get
the
information
out,
and
so
what
we
tried
to
do,
and
and
Daniel
you
were
a
big
part
of
it-
is
see
if
we
could
work
with
all
the
energy
committees
in
for
all
the
municipalities
in
Chittenden
County
to
staff
a
table
and
have
a
presence
at
the
one
Community
event
that
everybody
goes
to
right
doesn't
matter.
You
know
that,
like
like.
E
Up
at
that
event,
so
what
a
perfect
time
to
do
it.
But
of
course,
as
we
know,
we
all
know
coordinating
in
the
community
is
it
can
be
tricky
and
we've
had
a
couple
of
developments
that
look
like
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
it
yeah.
If
we
can
just
push
a
couple
of
of
buttons
just
right
at
just
the
right
time,
I
think
it
could
be
a
really
successful
event.
Yeah.
A
Well
and
it
it
it's
been
a
very
big
lift.
You
know
trying
to
engage
with
other
energy
committees
that
we
aren't
in
communication
with
regularly
we'd
like
to
be
more
regularly
in
communication
with
the
other
committees,
but
also
just
you
know,
there
was
60
different
shift
positions
that
we
needed
staffed
to
to.
You
know
staff
this
booth
for
a
full
10
days,
so
we
could
talk
about
Energy,
Efficiency
and
weatherization,
and
different
programs
to
that
that
residents
can
access
to
make
those
things
more
affordable.
A
C
A
C
E
D
C
E
Amazed
at
how
you
know
when
you
get
involved
in
a
com,
you
know
in
your
community
Beyond,
just
your
workplace.
That
was
a
lot
of
what
I
had
been
talking
about
during
the
you
know.
In
my
discussion
with
Daniel,
you
find
that
you
can
draw
upon
those
experiences
back
to
your
professional
life
and
vice
versa.
Yeah.
You
know
so.
A
A
One
of
those
moments
where
there's
this
crossover
yeah
well
speaking
of
Crossovers-
and
you
know
thank
you
again
for
that
introduction
as
well.
Will
I
I
really
only
have
one
primary
question
for
this
episode
and
I
just
want
to
open
up
the
floor
and
let
everyone
that's
present,
be
involved
in
the
conversation
and
you
know
just
contribute.
Let's
do
try
and
make
sure
that
everyone
is
contributing
and
give
people
space.
You
know
Scotty's
on
the
zoom
call,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
we
are.
A
You
know
cognizant
of
that
as
well,
but
here's
the
question
that
is,
you
know
like
based
on
everything
that
we've
heard
so
far
like.
How
can
we
work
together
to
build
community
wealth?
You
know,
so
this
is
a
thought
experiment
for,
for
all
of
us
to
kind
of
reflect
on
and
share
about.
I
I
have
some
ideas.
Hearing
all
of
these
different
things
in
the
room,
but
I'd
like
to
kind
of
hear
your
input
and
your
thoughts
as
well.
B
B
Play
a
role
in
common
service
wow
to
come
to
community,
so
it
might
be
about
how,
from
this
initial
introduction,
we
continue
to
converse
and
relate
and
see
where
the
gifts
and
the
Explorations
and
cultivating
of
community
building
in
various
facets
and
aspects
can
find
alignment
because
I'm
pretty
sure
that
we
all
have
different
Circles
of
people
who
we
care
about
and
and
things
that
we're
interested
and
passionate
about
that.
When
we
see
that
they
have
common
connection,
we'll
be
able
to
see
how
there
can
be
bridges
that
are
built
and
constructed.
D
B
Looks
like
reaching
out
to
to
me
and
letting
me
know
about
opportunities
to
converse
and
deeper
degree
about
what
it
looks
like
as
far
as
Opening
space,
to
make
resources
more
accessible
to
a
diverse
array
of
people
of
different
ethnicities
and
different
backgrounds,
because
when
I
hear
diversity,
I
always
think.
Oh
that's
code
word
for
people
and
usually
like
black
and
brown
people,
but
I
think
we
need
a
diverse
array
of
access
points
of
how
we
can
Bridge
connection
and
common
relationship.
B
A
Yeah
I
love.
There
are
some
things
that
I'm
picking
up
on
from
what
you're
saying:
Rosie
one
was
this
common
Service
as
peace
builders.
That
is
a
thread
that
is
through
the
show,
I
I.
You
know
the
folks
that
I
bring
on
to
the
show
I
see
as
peace
builders
in
the
community
and
and
when
you're
when
your
mission
is,
is
peace.
Building,
whether
you
know
it
or
not,
you
know
there
are.
A
There
are
going
to
be
common
threads
with
other
folks
in
the
community
right,
so
I'm,
really
picking
up
on
that
piece,
as
well
as
just
opportunities
to
cross-pollinate,
are
circles
of
influence
opportunities
to
get
more
involved
in
in
the
spaces
and
communities
that
we're
each
connected
to
independently
and
finding
ways
for
us
to
to
do
that
together.
Yeah
right.
E
I
was
saying
before
that
before
we
we
jumped
on
that,
you
know
Jason's
idea
or
Jason's
the
work
that
Jason's
doing
and
trying
to
build
modular
homes
that
result
in
multi-tenant.
You
know
that
can
bring
down
costs,
which
is
you
know
important
for
every
Community,
like
you
say,
Raji,
not
just
not
just
brown
and
black,
but
really
everyone
who's.
Trying
to
you
know,
live
and
thrive
in
Vermont,
but
boy
it
has
a
that
could
have
such
a
huge
impact
on
energy
too.
If
you
think
about
it,
yeah.
C
E
A
No,
so
that
was
a
great
synthesis
of
a
couple
of
things
right.
You
know
having
our
housing
designs
in
alignment
with
nature
in
a
way
that
really
reduces
our
need
for
for
energy
and
allows
us
to
to
cohabitate
in
our
natural
environment.
Much
more
effectively
also
by
you
know,
creates
this
opportunity
for
us
to
live
in
community
with
each
other,
because
we're
closer
together.
We
have
more
opportunity
to
to
be
involved
in
each
other's
activities
and
initiatives,
and
that
requires
culture.
A
D
A
D
I
think
being
able
to
infuse
that
kind
of
fun
insight
into
some
of
what
you
know
might
seem
some
of
these
kind
of
box.
You
know
box
modules,
but
getting
some
feedback
on
what
else
is
the
community?
Looking
for?
Obviously
we
need
these,
you
know
functional
items,
but
how
could
we,
you
know,
make
something:
that's
energy
efficient,
you
know,
but
but
also
as
a
common
space,
so
I
I
was
connecting
the
dots.
A
A
You
know
we're
we're
doing
a
lot
more
in
the
way
of
of
rebranding
and
repurposing
old
buildings
and
and
older,
older
community
spaces
and
and
revitalizing
them
in
a
way
that
I
think
is,
is
in
some
ways,
novel,
but
also
just
a
very
strong
return
to
the
past
in
in
how
we
used
to
build
communities,
things
that
were
designed
around
a
people-centered
design
right
around
us
being
able
to
share
common
space
and
and
and
be
in
communion
with
each
other.
If
that
makes
sense,
you
know
so.
A
C
That
textbook,
the
chapter
one,
the
first
half
was
kind
of
given
to
John
Locke
and
some
ideals,
and
then
it
was
23
chapters
of
how
this
goes
in
the
bill
and
whatever,
and
the
real
disappointment
I
I
had
was
that
in
the
50s.
That
class
was
called
Civics
and
the
first
half
of
that
book
was
about
community
community
investment.
C
What
we
give
up
and
seed
to
the
community
and
how
we
get
those
benefits
times:
five,
six
or
seven
back,
and
so
you
know
watching
the
grand
sort
of
feedback
loop
that
Scotty's
trying
to
build
up.
It
reminds
me
of
that
Civics
textbook,
where
we
seed
violence
and
say
only
this
professional
class
shall
be
able
to.
You
know,
distribute
violence
when
only
necessary
and
under
review
and
with
tons
of
feedback
and
we're
not
trusting
our
police
force,
because
that
feedback
is
broken,
because
we
need
to
reinvent
that
every
generation.
A
D
D
C
C
A
Yeah
well
I,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
have
a
really
hard
time
describing
about
the
the
process
of
work
that
I
often
engage
with
in
community.
You
know,
people
people
often
are
are
very
conditioned
to
say
well,
if,
if
we
do
activity
X
we're
going
to
get,
you
know
outcome
y
right,
but
you
know
when
you
engage
in
dialogue
with
folks
when
you
are
allowing
the
this
the
dialogue
itself
to
create
those
outputs,
it
can
be
extremely
diverse.
A
It
can
have
a
a
huge
amount
of
alternative
and
variable
outcomes
that
can
be
really
difficult
to
predict,
and
this
is
where
you
know,
I
see
some
of
what
Scotty's
doing,
with
with
the
feedback
with
the
police
departments,
trying
to
try
to
measure
that
feedback
and
identify
you
know,
how
can
police
departments
actually
use
this
to
adjust
to
their
practices,
to
adjust
the
way
that
we
we
engage
with
with
folks
in
the
community
right
and
so
like
like
it's
it's
a
really
interesting
thought
process
about.
You
know.
A
Conventional
economics,
which
is
really
kind
of
my
Foundation
outside
of
Peace
building,
is,
is
centered
on
this
idea
of
replication.
You
know
of
of
taking
a
good
idea
and
breaking
it
down
into
its
individual
parts
and
then
repeating
that
as
much
as
possible
right
and
that
requires
a
degree
of
consistency,
not
just
in
the
way
the
product
or
service
is
provided,
but
in
the
way
consumers
engage
with
those
things
right,
and
you
know
what
we're
actually
seeing
after
Decades
of
collecting
information
is
that
that
is
not
at
all
how
markets
work
right.
E
So
much
there
have
been
so
many
I
mean
you
can
understand
why
the
single-family
house
Obsession
came
to
be
right
after
World,
War
II
in
the
50s
and
everything
and
what
everyone
wants
their
own
kind
of
thing,
and
not
to
have
to
be
right
together.
Yeah
that
has
created
problems
for
the
environment.
It's
created
in
a
sense
like
cost
issues
of
just
how
unaffordable
things
are
right,
particularly
for
communities
of
color.
You
know
has
to
be
said,
but
really
for
for
for
in
Vermont
like
it's.
C
E
Really
not
developable,
so
you
know
the
only
way
to
start
to
chart
a
different
course
I
mean
you
have
to
have
you
have
to
have
this
dialogue?
You
have
to
have
the
feedback,
but
you
have
to
have
the
ideas
too
and
it's
you
know
it's
wonderful
that
you're
like
working
on
this.
It
sounds
like
a
a
great
group
of
people
and.
B
E
A
A
A
A
A
And
this
is
why
I
value
folks,
like
you
rajni
and
the
community
that
are
that
are
have
dedicated
their
lives,
to
trying
to
help
that
kind
of
cultural
development
unfolds
that
opportunity
for
folks
to
practice
being
in
community
with
each
other?
One
of
my
favorite
experiences
was
you
know:
I
had
been
in
engaging
with
you
for
several
months
at
different
poetry
events
and
we
finally
started
you
know.
A
Collaborating
in
rajni
gave
me
some
space
to
to
be
a
host
as
well,
because
at
that
point
you
were
doing
you
know
five,
six
different
poetry
nights
in
different
locations,
and
so
it's
like
I
he's
like
I
I.
If
I
could
speak
for
you
a
little
bit,
you
know
I
need
some
help.
You
know
working
with
a
radio
being
and
I
I
need
more
people
hosting
and
so
I
was
delighted,
and
that
first
night,
that
we
were,
we
were
doing
that
together.
B
C
B
At
the
history
of
this
country,
the
history,
the
ways
in
which
stories
have
been
allowed
to
be
told
from
your
your
civics
class.
You
know
American
government,
the
way
it's
robustly
considered
validated
as
American
history
proper
and
how
we've
had.
We
still
have
a
lot
to
grow
in
that
Dynamic.
When
you
look
at
the
history
of
the
origin
of
the
police
department,
starting
as
people
who
were
the
re-enslavers,
you
know
like
unless
you
bring
the
story
to
the
four
you'll,
always
be
missing
pieces.
B
C
B
You
have
to
tell
these
stories
and
if
you
don't
have
a
combination
of
people's
voices
to
be
able
to
name
these
things
with
Nuance
you'll
always
be
missing
out
on
greater
shared
value.
You
always
be
missing
out
on
the
Brilliance
of
a
diverse
array
of
knowledge
and
insight
that
could
arise
from
our
Collective
wisdom,
If,
We,
Hold
space
for
those
things
in
sincerity
and
tandem,
it's
very
important
that
we
don't
do
less.
A
Well-
and
you
know,
I
love
what
you're
touching
on
here
about
that
richness
of
cultural
wealth
that
comes
by
having
a
diverse
array
of
voices
at
the
table
right.
This
is
something
that
Tamara
and
I
spoke
at
spoke
to
at
length
in
our
episode
when
she
was
here-
and
she
wasn't
able
to
be
here
today,
but
please
episode
three,
you
know
she
she
speaks.
She
spoke
a
lot
to
just
the
value
of
having
that
kind
of
diversity
in
our
school
systems.
The
the
the
the
wealth
that
it
can
generate.
A
I
mean
you
know
if,
if
we
think
about
this
from
a
business
lens
for
just
a
moment,
if
I
may
you
know,
Innovation
is
all
about
is
Seated
on
on
the
premise
of
diversity.
Right,
you
know
it
like
you.
You
have
to
have
diversity
of
thought
to
push
the
fold
in
any
in
any
industry
right,
you
know,
even
in
with
from
an
academic
perspective,
even
like
you
know,
having
different
kinds
of
thinkers
and
different
kinds
of
imaginers,
and
you
know
perspectives
coming
into
a
room.
A
You
know
dozens
of
you
know
Global
crises
that
we're
facing
right
now
and
you
know
the
way
that
we
respond
to
that
is
by
working
together
right
by
building
cultures
that
allow
us
to
collaborate
and
respect
each
other
enough
to
hear
those
differences
of
perspective
right
and
and
so
I
I,
just
I'm
really
glad
to
kind
of
hear
that
coming
into
this
conversation,
and
so
and
it's
touching,
you
know-
that's
been
touched
upon-
that's
the
thread
with
peace.
Building
in
my
Minds
right
is
how
to
work
together.
E
Yeah
well,
I
mean
you
know.
We
I
think
that
I
think
rajni's
point
about
storytelling
is
really
important
and
in
a
sense
you
know
every
time
you're
trying
to
engage
in
Civics
you're
doing
a
certain
level
of
Storytelling
right
of
explaining.
Why
a
problem
is
the
way
it
is
and
how
it
got
there.
But
then
how
do
you?
But
then
it's
also
trying
to
point
in
a
direction
and
I
think
that's
the
you
know,
I
think
the
reason
just
to
bring
it
back
to
a
to
a
thought.
C
E
The
Pub
was
essentially
like
a
living
room
for
everybody
where
every
you
know
where,
because
you,
you
know,
you
were
living
in
houses
that
were
didn't,
have
a
living
room
right
right,
didn't
have
a
lot
of
space,
and
so
it
was
a
place
that
people
would
gather,
and
you
think
about
you
know
in
some
ways
it
feels
like
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
public
living
room,
it's
great
to
all,
get
together,
and
it's
a
lot
easier
to
do
that
if
our
houses
are
a
little
closer
together.
If.
C
E
D
Success
stories:
you
know,
I
I
go
to
Rossi's
point
of
sharing
stories,
and
how
can
we
share
our
story?
Our
stories
of
success
to
you
know,
engage
youth
to
want
to
be
Innovative
in
this
space.
I
think
that's
something
that
I
struggle
with
is
I've
been
in
the
public
sector
for
so
long
so
much
Innovative
going
on
in
the
private
sector.
How
do
we
bring
that
Innovation
to
the
public
sector?
D
D
Insight
might
actually
better
their
community
and
how
do
we
keep
people
on
that
path
of
you
know,
innovating
towards
you
know
the
greater
good,
rather
than
just
you
know,
modifying
a
small
piece
of
something
I
think
that's
what
I
would
love
for
us
all
to
do
is
to
share
our
success
of
hey.
We
love
what
we're
doing,
because
we're
actually
bettering
the
community
and
we're
seeing
you
know
that
it's
creating
that
Community
wealth
I
think
just
getting
some
of
those
buzzwords
out
there
getting
you
know
the
youth
thinking.
What
is
community
wealth?
B
A
A
No
I
I
love
this.
This
introduction
to
kind
of
this
conversation
about
how
we
engage
with
Community
online,
because
I
think
that
has
made
had
some
pretty
fundamental
changes
and
particularly
in
the
last
few
years,
with
kovid
being
you
know
this,
this
driving,
you
know
this.
This
Schism,
you
know
I
was
speaking
with
someone
at
St,
Michael's
College
the
other
day,
and
they
were
saying
you
know.
A
It's
been
almost
three
years
where
we've
had
this
disruption
and
we
operate
on
a
four-year
life
cycle,
with
our
students
right
and
so
almost
all
the
students
that
held
that
cultural
knowledge
and
the
you
know
we're
able
to
transfer
that
to
the
incoming
classes
are
gone
and
so
they're
finding
these
spaces
in
the
school
that
used
to
be
filled
with
students
and
Alive
with
energy
empty,
and
they
can
tell
those
their
their
new
students
all
they
want.
This
is
a
cultural
space.
This
is
where
you
can
hang
out.
A
This
is
where
you
can
do
these
things,
but
until
somebody
in
the
school
is
actually
doing
that
it's
still
an
empty
space,
and
so
it's
like
that
that
process
of
community
building
that
process
of
Reinventing
spaces
where
we
can
coexist
is
physically.
It's
it's.
We
have
to
do
it
physically
right,
because
you
know
as
much
as
the
internet
has
brought
us
together.
It
has
also
created
these
very
intense
silos,
you
know,
and
and
these
spaces,
where
we
can
surround
ourselves
with
folks
that
only
agree
with
us.
A
You
know
and
I
think
that
in
some
ways
that
has
been
a
huge
Force
for
good
in
connecting
individuals
that
have
been
either
ostracized
or
felt
a
little
bit
out
of
place
in
their
community
to
find
community
in
a
larger
space
right
on
the
internet
right.
So
that's
I
don't
want
to
denounce
that
in
any
way,
but
at
the
same
time
we
we
need
to
be
able
to
have
conversations
with
people.
We
don't
agree
with
two
right
and
so
like
I
I,
don't
know
I.
A
This
is
something
that
I'm
connected
to
with
the
dialogue
that
I've
been
trying
to
prepare.
That's
happening
on
June
25th,
a
question
the
question
of
like
what
is
Community
for
us
now
in
this
post-pandemic
world.
You
know
and
given
what
insights
and
knowledge
we've
gained
about
how
well
our
development
process
has
has
been
so
far
in
this
country
and
in
the
world,
you
know
like
what
do
we
do
now?
How
do
we?
A
How
do
we
make
adjustments
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
that
sustainable,
Community
wealth,
you
know,
and
so
I'll
just
put
that
out
there
to
the
the
group.
You
know
what
do
you,
what
do
you
guys
think
is,
is
community
wealth
and
how
do
we
sustain
that
moving
forward?
What
do
you
think
we
need
to
do
together.
C
I
would
propose
two
two
areas
of
focus:
yeah
I
think
that
we
all
share
but
haven't
been
interrogated
for
quite
some
time.
The
first
is,
there's
really
quite
a
lot
of
conflict
between
two
ideals
of
what
it
means
to
be
an
American
and
that
Civics
textbook.
The
first
is
the
American
dream,
which
is
some
single
family
house
with
picket
fence
and
I.
Think
we've
already
unfolded
here.
C
C
I
think
can
change
hearts
and
Minds
about
why
we
come
together
in
the
first
place.
Yeah
then
I
think
it's
a
matter
of
changing
our
built
environment.
I'm
sorry
I'm
an
architect
in
order
to
create
those
sort
of
places
where
it's
easier
to
come
together.
Yeah
democratizing
the
the
Town
Square
is
something
that
we've
slowly
been
losing
for
a
century,
be
it
shopping,
malls
or
other
quasi-public
spaces,
and
the
truly
toxic
thing
about
non-democratic
public
spaces
that
there
is
no
freedom
of
speech
in
these
places.
C
A
C
A
A
What
I
call
the
Community
Capital
Growth
framework
It's
a
combination
of
a
variety
of
different
economic
and
social
Frameworks
that
I've
I've,
combined
in
a
way
where
you
know
developing
capital
in
in
a
particular
process,
helps
to
facilitate
this
kind
of
community
wealth
that
we're
talking
about,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
get
too
much
into
that,
because
it
could
get
a
bit
heavy.
But
some
you
know
suffice
it
to
say
that
you
know.
Scotty
here
is
working
to
build
social
capital.
A
Jason
is
working
to
build
industrial
capital,
and
you
know
redefining
that
that
space
we
live
in
and
work
in.
You
know,
and
then
we've
got
Financial
Capital,
which
I'm
finding
folks
for
season
two
to
be
participating.
That
I
was
just
too
excited
to
work
with
Tamara,
who
was
also
kind
of
a
combination
of
Social
and
cultural
capital.
She
kind
of
bridges
that
those
two
spaces
very
effectively,
and
so
you
know
asking
this
question
of.
How
do
we
work
together?
A
To
actually
do
this
I
think
we've
seen
in
in
a
variety
of
ways
how
that's
possible,
but
you
know
I
we
heard
from
Jason
about
you
know
what
what
he
sees
as
Community
wealth
and
how
we're
how
we're
moving
this
this
working
together.
But
you
know
I,
want
to
hear
maybe
from
a
few
other
folks,
we've
got
five
minutes
left
in
the
show,
and
so
let's,
let's
kind
of
do
a
quick
round
robin
well.
E
E
Another
great
law
of
the
past
this
year,
this
30
by
30
law
that
says
they're,
30
percent
of
Vermont,
is
going
to
be.
You
know,
put
in
conservation
by
2030
and
50
percent
by
2050..
I
have
not
recognized
until
yesterday
that
that's
actually
part
of
a
national
campaign
and
that
there's,
like
nine
other
states,
that's
done
this,
so
that
seems
great,
but
it's
only
great
if
we
can
all
still
live
and
thrive
in
those
you
know
in
those
States,
and
so
part
of
that
is
making
sure
we're
using
clean
energy.
E
So
the
example
that
I
gave
to
you,
you
know
we
encouraged
Peter
Edelman
as
a
our
energy
committee,
encourage
Peter
Edelman
when
you're
looking
at
that
Essex
experience
or
changing
the
Essex
outlet
mall
to
the
Essex
experience,
think
about
seriously
about
solar
and
now,
when
you
go
there
and
you
have
a
dinner
at
a
Mad,
Taco
or
Bramble,
or
all
these
new
restaurants
that
are
replacing
all
those
retail
shops
you're
going
to
see
those
solar
panels
all
over.
You
know
the
rooftops
you're
going.
C
E
All
that
you're,
getting
from
being
there
is
ultimately
coming
from
the
Sun
and
that
I
love
the
way
that
he
changed,
that
space
to
take
advantage
of
that
natural
capital
and
and
sort
of
embed
it
in
a
visible
way
into
a
a
space
that
is,
you
know,
has
really
become
kind
of
the
center
of
Essex
Community
space.
Well,.
A
That
that
speaks
in
some
way
if
I
could
interject
for
just
a
second
like
about
the
diverse
ways
that
we
can
develop
natural
Capital
right.
You
know,
just
if
you
build
a
garden
around
your
business
and
people
like
walking
through
the
garden
you're
going
to
bring
people
into
your
business.
That's
a
form
of
natural
Capital
right
so
like
there's
the
energy
side
of
it,
but
I
think
the
integration
of
utilizing
our
natural
space
in
harmony
with
our
daily
lives,
that
that
is,
that
is
a
way
of
generating
natural
Capital.
E
B
Yes
well,
I
would
say
the
connection
between
Community
wealth
and
cultural
capital
in
terms
of
culture.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
a
more
intentional
focus
on
how
to
co-create
a
culture
that
has
a
deeply
steeped
ethic
of
self-reflection
of
historical
analysis
of
stories
that
have
been
told
and
not.
D
B
A
B
We
need
that
rich
array
of
voices
and
people's
participation
in
order
to
have
a
solid
access
to
the
the
shared
Visionary
potency,
and
that
is
so
much
a
part
of
us
when
we
hold
space
for
it
all
so
I
I'm
I'm
excited
to
have
this
be
a
seed
planted
in
that
direction.
So
may
we
evolve
from
here
into
deeper,
more
powerful
Connections
in
terms
of
relationship
and
see
what
our
gifts
can
determine
together.
A
No
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that.
So
much
oh
I,
you
know
I
mean
the
culture
is
the
driving
force,
that's
how
we
all
work
together
right
and
so
just
this,
this
notion
of
history
as
well.
You
know
our
cultural
history,
the
more
we
understand
of
our
history,
the
more
cultural
capital
we
have
right.
The
the
greater
understanding
and
reflection
we
have
of
what
has
come
before
helps
us
to
make
better
decisions.
Moving
forward
right.
A
You
know
there
one
of
the
favorite
images
I
have
from
one
of
my
grad
school
experiences.
When
I
was
at
a
peace
conference,
was
we
I
had
a
colleague
from
I
think
he
South
Africa?
Perhaps
it
was
Kenya
and
he
was
talking
about
the
way
they
understand
time
and
they
say
well
we're
all
walking
backwards
into
the
future
as
we
navigate
with
through
our
past.
E
A
B
D
I
think
if
you
can
just
all
collaborate
and
rather
than
see
someone,
that's
maybe
doing
the
same
thing
with
you,
oh
I've
got
to
be
better
than
him
right.
I
gotta
buckle
up
my
shoes
and
you
know
whatever
you
know
whatever
that
may
be
it's.
How
can
we
just
collaborate?
How
can
we
hear
their
perspective?
How
can
we
stay
curious,
I
think
is,
is
really
how
I
think
we
can
create
Community,
wealth
and
I
know.
There's
a
lot
of
people
trying
to
gather
feedback
so
I'm
always
open
to
you
know.
How
are
you
Gathering
it?
A
Yeah
yeah
well
just
to
do
a
quick
round
of
what
I've
been
hearing
today.
You
know
this
idea
of
developing
Social
Capital
by
generating
these
feedback
loops
and
establishing
dialogue
with
each
other
in
various
forms
allows
us
to
understand
how
we
can
work
together
for
Mutual
benefit
right,
and
then
you
know
that
in
itself
is
is
valuable.
If
we
understand
how
we
can
do
that,
but
we
have
to
convert
that
into
cultural
capital.
You
know
it's
not.
Can
we
work
together
for
Mutual
benefit,
but
how
do
we
do
that?
A
You
know
you
know
what
kind
of
norms
and
behaviors
and
processes
what
kind
of
decision-making
processes
do
we
need
to
cultivate
in
order
to
work
together
to
achieve
our
common
goal
right,
you
know,
and
and
that's
where
we
get
into
the
natural
capital
and
we
have
to
say
Okay,
we
we're
all
in
this
planet
together
we
want
to
work
together.
What
kind
of
Natural
Resources
can
we
generate?
A
You
know
what
kind
of
how
can
we
expand
our
natural
space
while
in
pursuit
of
our
common
goal
right,
you
know:
how
can
we
do
that
in
Harmony
and
in
a
sustainable
way?
You
know
and
if
we
can
find
out
how
to
integrate
those
natural
resources
which
are
abundant.
This
is
the
whole
reason
we're
all
here
right
how
you
know
if
we
can
find
a
way
to
utilize
those
resources
and
generate
more
of
them
along
the
way.
Then
that's
where
we
get
into
industrial
Capital,
that's
where
we
find
better
modes
of
production.
A
How
can
we
invest
that
cap,
our
financial
Capital
into
these
other
Capital
buckets
to
generate
cyclical
wealth
Cycles?
You
know
cyclical
wealth,
you
know
to
generate
structures
where
the
money
stays
rooted
in
our
local
communities,
where
the
money
is
distributed
equitably
and
utilized
in
a
community
process
that
facilitates
the
development
of
these
first
four
capitals.
A
You
know
going
through
that
whole
cycle,
like
that.
This
is
what
we're
seeing
on
the
show
today,
and
this
is
what
I
think
is
a
process
of
peace
through
development
and
I.
Think
I've
shared
this
in
pretty
much
every
episode,
but
I
I
have
this
Haiku
that
I
use
kind
of
as
a
mantra
in
my
own
life
and-
and
you
know
with
with
other
folks
when
I
want
to
talk
about
peace,
building
and
conflict
transformation,
and
it
goes
like
this.
A
It's
a
one
drop
ripples,
but
a
thousand
drops
birth,
New
Life
together
we
reign,
and
it's
it's
that
togetherness
that
really
allows
us
to
to
to
create
new
things
right
to
birth,
that
new
life.
It's
it's
the
togetherness
that
allows
us
to
generate
abundance
into
Living
Community
with
each
other
from
my
perspective,
and
that
is
a
process
of
peace.
A
So
you
know,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
this
has
been
the
season,
finale
of
peace
talks
and
we've
been
meeting
with
Scotty
Jason
rajni
and
will
tomorrow
has
been
here
with
us
in
spirit.
This
show
has
been
brought
to
you
by
Community
wealth
development
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
another
cycle
of
this
in
season
two
with
the
new
group
of
faces,
and
and
hopefully
we
can
continue
to
expand
our
understanding
and
knowledge
about
different
ways
to
build
community
wealth
based
on
different
folks
that
are
in
the
community.