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A
Hello,
everybody
and
welcome
to
police
headquarters,
I'm
sister
chief
Anna,
Kudrow,
I'm
sort
of
in
charge
of
all
the
operations
branch
which
includes
all
the
uniformed
officers,
really
exciting
to
see
the
groups
that
come
in
because
there's
such
a
mixture
of
people
and
that's
each
person
is
an
opportunity
to
get
some
good
feedback
and
find
out
how
we're
doing
out
there
in
the
city.
So
please
feel
free
to
ask
lots
of
questions
and
potentially
continue
to
give
us
some
feedback
on
how
you
feel
about
local
law
enforcement
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
A
We
have
a
presentation
about
our
special
deployment
division,
which
includes
a
variety
of
smaller
units
that
are
trained
to
do
specific
tasks,
and
then
we
have
some
current
information
on
our
group.
Violence,
intervention
unit,
I
think
you'll
find
everybody
very
interesting
and
lots
of
good
details
about
how
we
operate
behind
the
scenes.
B
Hi,
my
name
is
Renee
kusuda
and
I'm,
the
commander
of
the
narcotics
and
vice
unit
in
narcotics,
and
vice
there
should
be
a
lot
more
letters
after
our
name,
because
we
do
a
lot
more
than
just
Noor
cot,
X
and
Vice
work
in
our
unit.
So
this
presentation
today
is
just
a
general
overview
of
what
the
detectives
that
are
assigned
to
my
unit
do
and
I'm
not
the
best
with
these
PowerPoint
things,
but
I
had
a
lot
of
help.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
little
bit
about
me.
B
I've
been
a
commander
for
just
about
a
year
now,
I've
been
with
the
Bureau
of
police
for
33
years,
chief
Kudrow
off
and
I
came
on
the
job
together,
sat
real
close
to
each
other
in
that
Academy,
and
here
we
are
today,
I've
done
all
of
these
assignments
and
I.
Think
having
this
Araya
T
of
experience
in
my
career
has
helped
me
in
the
job
that
I'm
in
right
now
these
are
the
types
of
Investigations
that
we
do
and
the
narcotics
and
vice
unit.
That's
why
I'm
saying
there
should
be
a
lot
more
letters.
B
After
our
name,
we
call
ourselves
narcotics.
We
call
ourselves
narcotics
and
vice,
but
in
the
in
the
narcotics
and
vice
unit,
we
have
detectives
who
conduct
graffiti
investigations.
Nuisance
bars,
investigations
and
under
Vice
are
the
crimes
of
prostitution
and
human
trafficking
and
illegal
gambling,
and
we
also
investigate
narcotics
trafficking.
These
are
them.
There
is
a
variety
of
ways
in
which
we
get
information.
Other
police
officers
tell
us
things.
We
get
3-1-1
complaints,
we
get
folks
who
just
call
us
on
the
phone.
B
We
get
some
emails
from
some
community
websites
that
you
can
go
to
and
file
complaint.
They
come
to
my
office.
We
look
at
those
complaints
and
we
investigate
those-
and
you
could
do
all
of
these
things
and
get
information
to
the
Pittsburgh
Bureau
of
police.
Three,
two,
three,
seven,
seven,
six
one
is
the
narcotics
office
phone
number.
We
also
use
confidential
informants
now
that
says
confidential
informants,
but
we
also
use
confidential
sources
legal
sort
of
thing
as
to
what
category
somebody
falls
into,
but
that's
how
we
get
information
in
our
unit.
B
So,
if
somebody
is
selling
drugs
they're
the
best
person
to
tell
us
how
they
conduct
an
operation,
what
they
do,
how
they
avoid
the
police
and
drug
users
and
other
drug
dealers
are
people
who
are
have
the
information
in
the
community
and
they
tell
us
who's
selling
drugs.
And
that's
where
it
says
you
don't
have
to
be
a
criminal.
That's
what
I
want
to
say!
There's
confidential
sources.
B
There
are
people
who
who
know
things
and
they
they
tell
us
and
that's
part
of
our
investigations,
a
big
part
of
what
we
do
in
the
narcotics
and
vice
and
graffiti
and
Firearms
tracking
unit
is
there's
a
team
of
detectives
who
track
every
firearm
that
is
seized
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
and
and
there
there's
there
are
quite
a
few.
They
have
a
variety
of
responsibilities,
so,
for
instance,
if
your
gun
gets
stolen,
we
enter
it
into
NCIC
and
every
quarter,
or
so
we
have
to
do
what's
called
a
validation.
B
We
have
to
call
you
make
sure
your
gun
is
still
stolen.
We
have
to
send
you
a
letter
we
have
to
follow
up
on
that,
so
that
the
NCIC,
the
national
databases,
have
accurate
information.
Our
goal
when
a
gun
comes
into
the
into
our
custody
is
to
make
sure
it
gets
back
to
the
lawful
owner
if
it's
stolen
a
lot
of
times,
we're
very
particular
about
this.
So
if
a
gun
comes
into
our
possession,
it
goes
to
the
Allegheny
Crime
Lab,
to
be
processed
and
to
determine
if
it's
been
and
used
in
any
crimes.
B
That
can
sometimes
be
a
lengthy
process,
and
then
we
require
the
gun
owner
to
get
a
court
order.
They
have
to
go
to
court,
it's
a
free,
relatively
easy
process,
but
they
have
to
go
to
a
John
judge
and
explain
how
did
their
gun
get
out
of
their
possession
and
the
judge
grants
the
court
order.
We
return
the
gun,
we
work
a
lot
with
the
ATF,
which
is
the
Alcohol,
Tobacco
and
Firearms
part
of
the
federal
government.
B
There
we're
working
on
a
program
they
are
and
working
with
the
County
Crime
Lab
and
we
trace
trace
guns
and
we
do
ballistics
matches
on
a
lot
of
firearms
and
shell
casings
that
are
seized
and
it
leads
to
tips.
It
leads
to
good.
It's
good
gives
us
good
leads
in
shooting
investigations
and
homicides
so
for
the
for
the
firearms
tracking
part.
B
The
other
thing
we
do
is
we
go
out
and
we
give
presentations
in
the
community
and
if
you
have
a
firearm-
and
you
don't
have
a
gun
lock,
you
can
come
and
get
one
from
me
if
you
don't
have
a
gun.
This
doesn't
really
do
you
to
to
to
good
gentlemen.
Here
we're
saying:
oh,
that's
a
bicycle:
lock,
it's
a
little
short
for
a
bicycle
lock,
but
it's
also
it's
a
it
can
be.
B
You
know
with
a
bolt
cutters,
it
can
be
defeated,
but
the
purpose
of
these
gun
locks
is
to
keep
them
out
of
hands
of
children.
So
if
somebody
breaks
into
your
house
to
steal
your
stuff
and
they
steal
your
gun,
they're
gonna
defeat,
this
lock
they're
a
burglar,
that's
what
they
do,
but
these
are
so
that
little
kids
don't
get
guns.
What
I
do
when
I
travel
I
always
take
one
of
these
and
say
in
a
hotel
or
something
but
I'm
gonna
go
to
dinner
and
I.
Don't
want
to
take
my
gun
with
me.
B
B
The
graffiti
squad,
as
I
said
another
letter
added
to
our
name.
We
had
two
detectives.
We
now
have
one.
We
follow
up
on
the
graffiti
that
happens
in
the
in
the
city.
The
detective,
who
is
our
main
detective
in
that
unit,
he's
very
artistic
gentleman
and
he's
able
to
look
at
this
graffiti
and
tell
me
things
that
I
would
never
know
so
and
we
track
all
the
graffiti.
So
if
an
individual
starts
to
tag
all
over
the
city
and
you
you
kind
of
recognize
even
regular
folks,
that's
the
same
person,
that's
putting
that
all
over.
B
We
track
it.
We
eventually
arrest
them
and
then
prosecute
them
and
based
on
the
size
of
the
graffiti,
that's
the
level
of
the
charge
and
how
much
money
it's
going
to
cost
for
them
to
have
to
pay
for
them
to
pay
to
get
that
graffiti
removed.
So
graffiti
buses
will
go
out
and
remove
it,
but
when
we
catch
the
person
that
did
that
they
end
up
ultimately
having
to
pay
for
it,
and
it's
the
same
phone
number
to
reach
us
nuisance
bar
task
force.
B
B
These
are
some
of
the
things,
the
pitfalls
that
are
going
to
happen,
but
if
they
are
running
a
bar,
where
there's
noise
there's
violence
there's
drug
dealing,
then
we
have
a
group
compliance
group
that
is
comprised
of
police
officers,
Fire
Department,
Building,
Inspection,
Health
Department,
and
we
go
out
and
we
do
what
we
call
compliance
checks.
Some
people
might
call
them
bar
raids,
but
they're
not
really
we're
just
making
sure
that
folks
are
complying
with
the
law.
B
We
were
at
last,
Thursday
went
to
three
places
and
each
place
had
significant
fire
code,
Building
Code
and
Health
Department
violations
all
right.
So
those
are
the
types
of
things
because
we
my
concern.
The
concern
of
the
Bureau
of
police
is
we've
seen
these
big
fires
in
other
bars
and
things
in
other
parts
of
the
country.
B
We
don't
want
that
to
happen
here,
so
we
are
making
sure
that
if
you
go
up
to
have
a
good
time
in
a
bar,
a
club
that
you're
gonna
be
safe,
there
are
gonna,
be
sprinkler
systems,
all
the
fire
codes
are
up
to
snuff
and
that
you
can
go
out
and
in
these
facilities
and
not
get
sick.
This
is
how
we
get
the
information
citizens
input.
B
Vice
is
another
thing
that
we
do
prostitution.
Our
focus
on
our
prostitution
investigations
is
human
trafficking.
So
when
we
do
an
investigation,
the
the
individuals
who
are
arrested
for
prostitution
are
interviewed
to
see
if
there's
someone
who's
forced
them
into
prostitution
if
they're,
just
even
if
they
just
through
an
ad
in
the
paper
and
are
prostituting
and
having
their
own
business.
B
The
City
Pittsburgh
Bureau
of
police
has
done
significant
work
in
the
area
of
prostitution
in
trying
to
help
prostitutes
chief
Bickerstaff
who's.
In
the
back
of
the
room
was
a
significant
person
in
getting
services
for
the
women
who
were
involved
in
prostitution
and
she
runs
our
John
school,
which
is
when
men
are
arrested
for
prostitution.
They
go
to
a
class
to
try
to
educate
them
as
to
why
they
should
not
engage
in
this
type
of
activity.
B
The
other
thing
that
we
do
in
terms
of
human
trafficking
is
we
want
to
identify
the
individuals
who
are
taking
advantage
of
folks
putting
into
the
life
of
prostitution
all
right,
there's
a
lot
of
human
trafficking.
That
goes
on
of
a
detective
who
works
part-time
with
the
FBI's
human
trafficking
task
force.
They
investigate
these
crimes
and
we
do
narcotics
investigations.
So
if
your
neighbors
dealing
drugs
happen
in
my
neighborhood
just
this
week,
all
right
all
of
my
neighbors
come
over
and
they
say
our
neighbor
is
involved
in
some
drug
trafficking.
B
The
detectives
conducted,
an
investigation
did
a
search
warrant
made
a
couple
of
arrests.
We
do
that
in
every
neighborhood
all
over
the
city.
Every
day
yesterday
there
was
a
complaint
of
an
individual
coming
out
of
a
building
downtown
that
individuals
selling
drugs.
The
detectives
go
down,
they
conduct
surveillance,
they
see
him
engaging
in
drug
transaction,
they
arrest
the
buyer
in
the
dealer.
B
B
We
do
that
with
the
District
Attorney's
Office
and
those
funds
are
then
used
for
law
enforcement
purposes.
These
are
the
some
of
the
illegal
drugs
that
we
come
in.
Contact
with
I
think
everybody
kind
of
knows.
Most
of
those.
The
big
issue
now
with
the
opioids
are
the
prescription
drugs.
A
lot
of
folks
will
sell
their
prescription
drugs,
but
these
are
the.
These
are
the
main
ones
that
we
come
across,
and
the
prescription
pain
relievers.
B
That
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
drug,
addicted
I
was
speaking
to
a
young
man
yesterday
and
he's
using
fentanyl
and
he's
using
heroin.
He's
a
you
know,
has
a
job
he's
32
years
old,
he
became
drug
addicted
because
he
had
an
ankle
injury
and
once-
and
he
was
the
type
of
person
that
when
he
started
taking
those
oxycodone,
those
sort
of
pain,
relievers,
you
know,
seats
her,
he
became
addicted
and
he
moved
to
illegal
drugs.
Obviously
the
you
know.
This
is
something
that's
always
in
the
news.
B
And
what
we
have
find
through
the
Allegheny
County
Crime
Lab,
is
that
used
to
be
was
heroin,
what
they
call
Brando.
It
looks
tam
now,
they're,
fentanyl
and
all
of
the
fentanyl
derivatives
have
overcome
the
seizures.
The
number
of
seizures
in
Allegheny
County.
So
last
year
Allegheny
County
Crime
Lab
police
officers
in
Allegheny
County,
we're
still
seizing
a
lot
of
heroin.
Now
fentanyl
has
exceeded
the
number
of
seizures
of
heroine
opioids.
These
are
the
things
that
we're
seeing
the
pain,
relievers
heroin,
fentanyl
car
fentanyl
fentanyl
has
many
derivatives.
B
Many
different
sorts
of
chemical
names
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
fentanyl,
because
they're
just
Josh
from
the
crime
lab.
He
tells
me
all
the
chemical
names
they
give,
but
they
tell
us
what
they
are,
but
they're
all
derivatives,
some
sort
of
derivative
fentanyl
heroin.
It's
still
out
there.
We
have
a
lot
of
drug
users
who
tell
us
that
they
cannot
find
what
they
call
bron
dope.
It's
all
white
dope,
because
the
mixture
of
fentanyl
in
with
the
heroin
is
so
high
that
the
color
of
the
drug
they're
ingesting
is
white
and
not
brown.
B
There
are
some
folks
who
will
say:
I
only
want
bron,
dope
and
I
can't
find
it
other
folks
who
say
I
only
want
white
dope.
That's
all
I
want
I,
don't
want
anything
else,
and
so
what's
happening.
Is
the
mixtures
of
this
fentanyl
and
and
the
drug
user
doesn't
know?
What's
in
the
bag
that
they're
using
and
when
the
concentration
of
fentanyl
is
too
high,
they
overdosed
and
died?
B
This
is
cotton.
This
is
what
it
looks
like.
These
are
stamp
bags
little
glassine
bags.
They
go
from
eight
to
ten
dollars
for
one
bag.
A
bundle
is
ten
of
those
and
that's
80
to
$100,
and
then
a
brick
is
five
of
those
and
it's
200
to
250.
So
when
you
hear
on
the
news,
we
seized
a
brick,
we
seized
a
bundle.
This
is
the
amount
of
stamp
bags,
so
each
one
of
those
Stan's
bags
is
about
a
dose.
B
So
where
does
it?
Come
from?
Heroin
comes
from
Mexico
and
Colombia,
but
what
is
what
is
happening?
Is
the
cartels
have
fun
it's
way
cheaper,
to
sell
fentanyl,
it's
way
cheaper
for
them
to
push
fentanyl,
because
they
don't
have
to
staff
the
in
staff,
the
poppy
fields
they
don't
have
to
provide
security.
They
don't
have
to
do
any
processing,
they
get
fentanyl
from
China
and
they
take
it
right
through
there
same
drug
pipelines
to
get
it
into
the
United
States.
B
This
I've
kind
of
talked
about
all
of
these
fentanyl
is,
is
a
legitimate
drug
used
in
medicine.
For
folks
who
have
surgery
or
significant
pain,
it
is
very
powerful.
Drug
folks
are
mixing
it
with
heroin.
That's
part
of
what
is
causing
this
epidemic
and
folks
die
on
these
drug
overdoses.
So
the
cartels
for
kilogram
of
fentanyl
it's
three
to
four
thousand
dollars
and
they
can
cut
it
into
16
to
24
kilos.
So
now
they're
creating
fentanyl
pills,
which
is
the
new
and
upcoming
thing
they
take
that
powder
and
they
have
a
pill
press.
B
They're
gonna
make
a
ton
of
money
and
that's
what
they're
in
it
for
it's
all
about
the
money
car
fentanyl.
Was
it
a
training
last
week
and
while
we
say
on
these
slides
that
it's
three
to
five
hundred
times
more
potent
than
heroin
that
might
not
be
exact,
the
car
fentanyl,
that's
that's
coming
into
the
country
is
so
inconsistent
and
how
what
the
dosage
is
they're,
estimating
it's
10
15
to
a
hundred
times
more
powerful
than
but
fentanyl
so,
depending
on
the
dose.
B
We've
had
some
folks
who
use
car
fentanyl
and
what
they
think
is
car
fentanyl,
and
they
tell
us
that
they
use
it
and
they're
still
walking
around.
This
is
what
I
was
talking
about
where
where's
the
drugs
come
where
the
drugs
coming
from
a
lot
of
people
become
addicted
because
they
take
a
prescription
drug
and
they
become
addicted
to
this
drug.
A
lot
of
pills.
The
number
of
prescriptions
of
these
oxycodone,
these
opioids
that
were
prescribed
over
the
past
10
years,
is
staggering.
B
It's
absolutely
staggering,
but
most
of
it
most
of
the
fentanyl
that
stuff
that
we're
seeing
now
is
coming
through
the
cartels.
This
information
is
from
the
DEA,
and
part
of
it
was
part
of
the
training
that
I
was
at
earlier
on
last
week
and
if
you
are
on
the
dark
web,
if
you
know
how
to
get
on
there,
you
can
go
on
there
and
you
can
click
drugs.
Then
you
can
click
fentanyl
and
they
will
ship
it
right
to
your
house
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
that.
B
We
see
this
go
in
through
these
drugs
come
in
through
Canada
through
this
many
of
the
same
shipping
networks
that
the
Mexican
and
Colombian
cartels
have-
and
this
is
just
a
kind
of
a
staggering
sort
of
statistics
here-
the
United
States
is
consuming
more
narcotics
than
any
other
nation.
The
whole
world
we
have
had
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
our
youngest
opioid
overdose.
Death
was
a
one-year-old.
We've
had
an
11
year
old
15
year
old.
B
The
one
year
old
is
a
very
tragic
story.
The
sibling
was
had
medical
procedure
and
had
was
prescribed
an
opioid
for
the
pain
parents,
mixed
it
in
a
juice
bottle,
and
the
bottles
got
mixed
up.
A
tragic,
tragic
set
of
events.
I
say
to
you:
it
was
my
understanding,
the
8-yard,
a
much
short
of
the
procedure,
but
an
opioid
for
an
eight-year-old
that
just
that
to
me,
is
just
mind-boggling.
B
We've
had
a
500%
increase
in
overdoses
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
I
have
a
slide
that
compares
the
two
January's
2016
I
think
is
the
next
one.
In
2000
and
2016
we
had
687
overdoses,
149
deaths
this
year
and
I
didn't
make
a
slide,
because
this
number
grows
as
of
yesterday
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
1,300
people
that
we
know
of
overdosed.
Of
that
1,300
number
158
people
died,
October
1st,
so
we
we
are.
We
have
exceeded
these
numbers.
We
exceeded
the
numbers
in
around
June.
B
Things
seem
to
have
a
little
slow
down
a
little,
but
then
yesterday
not
so
it
is
staggering.
The
number
of
people
who
are
dying
and
I
don't
know
where
everybody's
from,
but
there
you
is
everybody
like
City
Pittsburgh
residents
or
County
residents,
all
City
okay.
So
if
you
know
you're
police
zone
in
police
own
one,
which
is
the
north
side
this
year,
255
people
overdosed
I,
don't
have
the
numbers
on
how
many
died.
255
people
in
zone
1,
258
people
in
zone
2
zone
3,
which
is
south
side
Carrick
at
that
area.
B
That's
our
high
zone,
343
119
and
zone
4,
which
is
shady
side,
Squirrel,
Hill
area
zone,
5
communities
at
East,
148
and
in
zone
6,
which
is
our
smallest
police
zone
177.
Those
were
the
numbers
as
of
yesterday.
It
is
just
an
astronomical
number
of
people
who
are
using
these
drugs
and
having
medical
emergencies
and
the
response
that's
needed
for
the
overdose.
The
fire
department
goes,
the
medics
go
and
the
police
go
she's,
taking
a
significant
drain
on
first
responders
on
the
EMS.
B
These
are
the
ones
that
we
know
about.
Narcan
or
naloxone
saves
a
lot
of
people
we
don't
even
know
about
which
is
good
or
I'm.
Okay
with
not
knowing
you
know,
because
some
somebody
use
narcan
and
they
save
their
life.
I'm.
Okay
with
that,
but
if
we're
not
getting
all
of
the
folks
they're,
not
always
calling
the
police
aren't
always
calling
the
medics
there's.
This
problem
is
way
bigger
than
this.
It's
way
bigger
than
13-hundred.
B
B
So
you
see
how,
when
we're
just
tracking
one
month
and
said,
I
have
some
other
slides
that
are
like
a
little
crazier,
but
just
the
months
of
January,
this
one's
dark
okay.
But
this
gives
you
the
comparison
by
year
and
you
can
see
the
first.
The
first
little
box
is
2010
and
then
each
box
goes
up
from
2010
to
the
big
blue,
one
that
says:
1300
is
this
year.
So
that's
how
the
problem
has
increased.
It's
another
slide.
This
is
for
this
year
as
to
which
is
owned.
B
There's
this
very
informative
website
called
overdose
PA
and
the
University
of
Pittsburgh
puts
this
together
and
I
want
to
click
it
up
there
and
show
you,
because,
if
you're
interested
in
the
subject,
there
is
so
much
information,
so
many
statistics
on
overdose
PA.
That's
where
we're
for
presentations
and
things
we
get
some
things.
There
was
just
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
show
you
is
they
track
through
every
Connie?
They
track
deaths,
all
kind
of
good
stuff
that
they
give
you.
B
So
that's
the
total
number
of
overdose
deaths
in
that
time
period
of
2008
and
they
break
down.
They
do
crazy,
any
stat.
You
want
on
opioids
and
overdoses,
you're
good.
You
can
find
it
on
this
website.
It's
very
interactive!
You
can
take
slides
and
put
them
into
presentations,
it's
public
information,
so
you
can
feel
free
to
use
it.
However,
you
choose
to
use
it.
B
B
B
Now
there
aren't
that
many
narcotics
detectives
and
we're
running
thin
on
how
many
of
these
we
can
respond
to,
because,
in
addition
to
all
the
other
incidents
that
narcotics
detectives
and
homicide
detectives
and
the
Crime
Unit
go
to,
they
now
have
158
overdose
deaths
that
we've
responded
to
this
year.
We
get
the
information
right
and
the
north
everything
comes
to
the
Narcotics
Unit.
We
begin
an
investigation.
Our
goal
is
to
charge
someone
who
delivered
the
drugs
that
caused
the
death
with
a
drug
delivery
resulting
in
death
charge.
B
It
is
a
very
difficult
case
to
make
this
started
in
the
US
Attorney's
Office
back
in
2015
we're
very
ambitious,
and
they
said
we
will
prosecute
every
case.
You
can
bring
to
our
city
of
Pittsburgh
police
and
they
were
quickly
overwhelmed
because
there
are
so
many
because
I
only
given
you
stats
on
the
city
on
the
city,
triple
it
for
the
Connie,
so
what's
happened
is
with
the
US
Attorney's
Office
in
with
the
District
Attorney's
Office.
We're
prosecuting
these
cases
they're
difficult
cases
to
make
for
a
number
of
reasons.
B
If
we
get
some
leads
initially,
we
start
to
follow
them.
Who
sold
the
drugs
lots
of
times.
We
find
a
brother,
a
sister,
a
cousin,
a
best
friend.
Maybe
the
two
individuals
went
in
and
purchase
some
drugs
one
died,
one
doesn't
that
person
is
responsible
for
that
death.
It's
a
drug
delivery
resulting
in
death.
B
B
There
are
difficult
cases
to
make
because
you
have
to
get
the
lead
you
have
to
get
to
the
next
person.
We
try
to
get
a
drug
case
on
that
person.
We
bring
them
in.
We
interview
them.
We
try
to
get
a
statement.
If
we
can,
we
use
electronic
evidence,
phones,
anything
else
that
we
can
use
to
try
to
build
that
case,
and
we
have
many
cases.
B
We
know
who
sold
the
dope,
but
we
must
now
wait
for
the
toxicology
report,
which
takes
about
four
months
and
then,
when
we
get
the
toxicology
report,
the
medical
examiner
has
to
make
a
determination
that
it
was
fentanyl
toxicity,
heroin,
toxicity
as
the
cause
of
death.
A
lot
of
people
who
are
addicted
to
drugs
use
multiple
drugs,
so
they
may
have
some
prescription
drugs.
They
may
have
a
number
of
illegal
drugs.
Sometimes
we
get
a
tox
screen.
The
medical
examiner
says:
no,
you
can't
prosecute
this
one.
B
We
have
had
one
case
where,
as
an
older
gentleman
use
some
drugs
stood
up,
fell
over
and
died,
he
had
significant
heart
disease.
We
had
a
great
case,
the
detectives
worked
months
and
months
and
months
and
months
that
a
great
case
they
wait
for
the
the
tox
he's
got
the
right
drugs
medical
examiner
said
based
on
his
medical
conditions.
He
may
have
had
a
heart
attack
and
they
wouldn't
roll
it.
B
As
a
drug
delivery
as
as
fentanyl
toxicity
or
an
overdose,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
obstacles
in
our
way
as
we
attempt
to
prosecute
these
cases.
Nor
can
naloxone
is
the
is
the
name
of
this
drug.
It's
readily
available.
All
police
officers
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
have
access
to
it.
Our
medics
have
access
our
fire
department.
You
can
go
to
the
drug
store
and
ask
them
for
a
person
for
naloxone.
You
don't
need
a
prescription,
I
tried
it
and
they
didn't
have
any
I
was
just
seeing.
B
If
you
know,
I
won't
tell
you
the
name
of
drugstore
I
was
like:
do
you
have
some
naloxone
and
they're
like?
No,
we
don't
have
any.
That
was
in
a
spring.
I
haven't
tried
recently,
but
it's
readily
available.
So
I
suspect
that
as
the
number
of
overdose
deaths
a
decrease,
it's
be
gonna,
be
because
of
this
drug
and
it
works.
It
works
pretty
remarkably
well
and
then
the
drug
user
does
not
really
want
to
go
to
the
hospital.
B
It's
sort
of
a
touchy
sort
of
situation
happens
sometimes,
but
city
of
Pittsburgh
police
officers
have
made
numerous
saves
of
lives
through
the
use
of
this
drug.
This
is
the
overdose
immunity
act
of
1d.
The
this
immunity
is
that
if
a
person
is
overdosing,
the
friends
panic
alright,
they
paint
it
because
they're
afraid
everybody's
gonna
get
trouble.
There
are
all
these
drugs
run,
and
now
my
friend
is
dying,
but
if
they
get
medical
emergency
help
they
may
they
may
survive.
B
B
But
then
you
end
up
with
jails
full
of
people
who
are
addicted
to
drugs.
So
how
do
you
solve
that
problem?
Converse
of
that
is.
There
are
a
number
of
people
who,
after
they've
gotten
arrested,
gone
through
drug
court,
been
forced
into
some
change
in
their
life.
Come
back
and
thank
you,
but
you
know
I've
seen
it
a
number
of
times
so
when
there's
no
consequence
to
the
action,
what
happens
so
if
every
time
you
put
your
hand
on
the
stove,
you
can
just
hold
it
there
and
not
get
burned.
B
What
do
you
do
so?
There
are
varying
schools
of
thought.
I'm
not
here
to
debate
that
issue,
I.
Think
in
your
classroom.
Here
you
will
probably
have
people
on
both
sides
who
think
that
you
know
we
should
arrest
individuals
who
overdosed
they
should
be
charged
with
something
my
thought
is.
We
need
to
get
them
some
sort
of
help
somewhere
down
the
road
if
charging
them
with
a
crime
gets
them
that
help
I'm.
Okay,
with
that
there
are
theory
there
are
debates
of
whether
or
not
that
we
could
involuntarily
commit
somebody
because
their
danger
to
themselves.
D
I've
heard
numerous
stories
that
are
I'm
from
zone
3,
actually
Knoxville,
so
I'm
very
familiar
about
the
epidemic.
That's
going
on
our
public
safety
council
were
a
lot
involved
with
trying
to
inform
people
and
and
doing
things
at
events.
But
what
we're
noticing
is
that,
over
there
they're
the
narcan,
it
is
saving
lives,
but
also,
at
the
same
time,
there's
people
that
are
being
revived
twice
in
one
day.
You
know
like
when
there
was
one
gentleman
I
heard
it
was
three
times
in
one
day
he
was
narc
and
so
I
mean
like
we
were
wondering.
B
B
So
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
asset
forfeiture
though
this
is
to.
Let
me
know
that
I'm
at
the
end
of
my
presentation,
at
the
end
of
all
of
this,
our
goal
is
to
dismantle
the
drug
organizations
put
a
big
hit
on
those
drug
dealers
by
taking
their
stuff
take
cars,
we
take
jewelry,
we
take
houses,
we
take
money
all
right
and
then
that
those
funds
are
legally
forfeited.
There's
a
process
there's
a
legal
process.
B
We
can't
just
take
their
stuff
there's
a
legal
process
where
their
assets
are
forfeited
and
then
they
go
to
law
enforcement
to
continue
our
law
enforcement
efforts
in
every
area,
not
just
narcotics
and
I-
think
that's
about
the
end.
All
right
so
call
us.
We
take
all
kind
of
drug
complaints
and
when
I
say
the
drug
can
please
remember.
I
talked
about
a
whole
bunch
of
different
letters.
Graffiti
nuisance
bars,
Firearms
tracking.
We
do
do
it
all
in
narcotics
and
vice
unit
and
I
have
pamphlets
for
nuisance
bars.
I
have
these.
These
are
great.
B
These
are
from
the
agony,
County
Health,
Department,
chock-full
of
information
on
where
to
go
for
anything
that
has
anything
to
do
with
drug
addiction
and
overdosing,
and
if
you
have
a
gun
and
you
have
a
child
and
you
do
not
have
a
lock.
Please
take
a
look
if
your
friend,
your
cousin,
your
brother,
somebody,
you
know,
has
a
gun
and
it's
not
locked
up
and
you
are
concerned,
please
take
and
give
this
to
them
all
right.
We
want
to
keep
guns
safe.
You
want
to
keep
children
from
being
able
to
easily
access
firearms.
B
E
F
B
G
Just
wondered
if
you
could
speak
to
why
you
think
that
increases
is
so
bad,
like
in
20
17
minutes
like
more
than
doubled
from
2016
in
terms
of
like
overdoses,
if
that's
just
a
reflection
of
increased
supply
or
really
gent,
like
really
increased,
like
opioid
prescriptions
like
being
prescribed
or
why
that's
so
bad
in
just
a
year.
It's.
B
Gone
up
every
year,
so
since
2010
it
has
increased
and
it's
a
good
question
as
to
why
is
it
increasing
because
there,
our
programs
in
place
to
keep
physicians
from
prescribing
so
many
drug,
so
many
pills
so
folks
won't
get
addicted.
I
think
there
could
be
more
education,
but
I
think
we
have
to
start
with
littler
kids
and
tell
them
not
to
take
these
drugs.
My
daughter,
seven
and
I
had
a
discussion
with
her
the
other
day
about
don't
take
any
drugs
that
belong
to
your
friends.
B
You
know,
there's
this
whole
myth
out
there
that
there's
this
big
evil
drug
dealer
who
lurks
in
the
alleys
going
to
get
you
drug
addicted.
That's
not
true!
It's
your
best
friend!
It's
your
best
friend
who's,
going
to
get
you
drug
addicted!
It's
your
cousin!
It's
your
sister!
There's!
Not
this
dark!
Fella
hanging
out
in
the
alley!
Here.
You
want
some
opioids,
no
and
I
think
the
whole.
There's
this
whole
myth-
and
this
is
what
folks
have
been
taught-
is
that
there's
this
scary
person.
B
So
when
your
best
friend
says
hey
here,
take
an
adderall,
so
you
can
study
better
in
college.
It's!
Okay
and
there's
just
becomes
that
whole
culture,
so
III,
don't
know
why
it's
why
the
increase
I
think
we're
more
aware
of
it.
I
think
the
drugs
are
more
powerful
and
more
people
are
overdosing,
and
so,
where
we
become,
they
make
contact
with
law
enforcement
or
or
Public
Safety.
B
Cyf
that
becomes
an
issue
for
CYF
and
not
necessary
law
enforcement
issue
if
it
becomes
where
there's
neglect
of
the
children
and
there
are
criminal
charges,
we
may
be
called
in
to
investigate
that,
but
the
first
line
there
is
the
social
worker
at
the
hospital
and
the
in
the
cyf
caseworkers.
If
they
call
us
in
somebody
sends
in
a
child
line,
Pittsburgh
police
will
investigate.
We
investigate
all
child
lines
that
come
into
our,
but
there's
that
balance
between
is
it
a
medical
problem
and
and
and
really
what
about
the
kids?
What
about
the
kids?
I
Where
we
at
nationally
compared
to
this
comes
up
opiates,
come
up
a
lot
and
a
lot
of
people
that
have
lived
here
their
whole
lives.
They
don't
want
to
admit
to
it.
They
don't
want
to
admit
this,
a
problem
in
Pittsburgh.
Where
do
we
compare
when
you
see
cities
that
are
suffering
even
worse
than
us?
How
are
we
getting
closer
to
that
level
or
are
we
getting
it
under
control?
We.
B
B
So
of
course,
I
lose
my
cop
mind
and
I
go.
You
guys
are
just
giving
people
too
many
bills,
and
one
physician
took
a
great
offense
to
that.
But
she
treats
people
who
have
different
sort
of
pain
than
just
a
delivery,
and
then
she
left
the
room
not
because
of
me
and
my
self,
but
because
she
had
another
engagement
and
the
other
folks
in
the
room
said:
oh
yeah,
we
do
we're
giving
too
many
pills.
B
We
have
been
giving
too
many
pills
and
they
recognized
themselves
that
they
were
doing
that
and
they
changed
their
protocol
because
they
don't
want
mothers
to
get
addicted.
Miggy
has
a
program
for
women
pregnant
women
who
are
addicted.
If,
if
you
know
a
pregnant
woman
who's
addicted,
you
send
her
over
to
Maggie
emergency
room.
They
will
put
her
in
their
program.
They
were
follow
her
through
her
pregnancy
and
through
several
months
after
delivery.
They
have
a
really
good
program,
but
again
it's
not
out
there.
It's
not
folks,
don't
know
about
it.
B
C
B
Is
still
illegal
to
possess
in
the
state
of
Pennsylvania
and
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
we
can,
instead
of
making
a
physical
arrest,
we
can
write
a
citation,
that's
a
non
criminal
site
type
of
citation
okay
for
a
person
who
possesses
a
small
amount
of
marijuana.
So
no,
it
is
not
decriminalized
when
there's
a
lot
of
movement
in
that
direction.
B
Lots
of
arguments
on
both
sides,
so
I've,
never
smoked
marijuana,
so
I
am
not
fond
of
the
smell
and
I
find
so
many
people
who
you
know,
there's
no
argument.
Oh,
is
it
a
gateway?
Drug
I?
Don't
know
that
it's
the
drug
so
much
that
gets
you
to
heroin,
but
it's
those
people
you're
with
every
day
that
use
the
drug.
B
So
if
you're
hanging
out
with
a
bunch
of
people
who
smoke
weed
all
day,
you're
going
to
smoke
weed
all
day
and
then
you're
going
to
be
introduced
to
other
drugs,
if
you're
not
hanging
with
the
weed
smokers,
you
may
not
be
introduced
to
other
drugs
so
but
it
is
still
illegal
to
possess
marijuana
city
of
Pittsburgh
it
in
their
state
law.
Thank
you
very
much.
Take
the
stuff.
F
J
K
I
apologize,
I,
don't
have
a
nice
presentation
like
commander.
Caserta
did
I
got
kind
of
asked
to
do
this
at
the
last
minute
or,
if
I
don't
know
exactly
what
it
was,
I
probably
could
have
thrown
or
not
me
I'd
had
somebody
else
throw
out
something
together
like
that,
for
you,
my
name
is
sergeant
Owen
lamb
with
the
city
patrol
I,
see
this
problem
with
our
Traffic
Division,
which
is
part
of
our
special
deployment
division.
Special
deployment
encompasses
a
bunch
of
different
specialty
units.
Obviously
the
traffic
is
one
of
them.
K
L
K
Who
pays
for
it
kind
of
a
different
thing,
and
it
all
depends
on
where
that
construction
site
might
be?
If
it's
on
one
of
the
interstates?
Generally,
it's
going
to
be
the
State
Police
that
you're
going
to
be
seeing
there
and
one
of
the
reasons.
Why
is
just
for
safety
reasons
for
the
construction
workers
that
are
doing
the
work
on
the
highway?
K
Pretty
much
everybody?
The
draws
when
you
see
a
marked
police
car
with
its
lights
on
everybody
tends
to
slow
down
generally
tends
to
move
over
and
give
those
construction
workers
a
little
bit
more
space
and
a
little
bit
more
leeway
so
that
they
can
do
the
jobs
that
they
do.
That's
why
we're
there
generally,
whoever
the
contractor
is,
that
is
doing
the
work
on
the
highway.
J
K
Yeah
the
majority
of
the
time
yeah
now
here
in
a
city
if
we
get
when
the
construction
was
going
on
on
route,
65
PennDOT
called
me
and
said:
hey
we're
having
an
issue
with
people
speeding
through
the
construction
zone.
The
workers
are
very
concerned
because
they
keep
getting
buzzed
by
cars
coming
through.
So
what
we
did?
We
set
up
a
speed
enforcement
detail
and
then
went
out
there.
We
had
somebody
clocking
cars
as
they
come
through
making.
K
M
I
have
a
question:
it's
pretty
specific
to
the
area,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
familiar
you
are
with
this
area
here:
the
corner
of
Brighton,
Road
and
Marshall.
Okay,
there's
a
no
turn
on
red
sign.
It's
at
that
corner
when
you're
coming
down,
Marshall,
Avenue,
okay
and
exactly
where
it's
placed
a
lot
of
times,
people
don't
realize
you
cannot
turn
right
there
because
it's
placed
where
they
think.
Oh,
that's
not
for
me!
So
can
you?
Is
it
I?
M
Don't
every
time
you
get
there,
then
there's
a
line
of
cars
behind
you
beeping
their
horn
to
try
to
get
you
to
turn
right
on
red
and
I've.
Seen
people
do
it
and
then
the
police
officer
comes
out
of
the
Uniondale
cemetery
because
he's
sitting
back
there
and
you
can't
see
and
then
you
get
a
ticket.
So
is
there
have
you
aware
of
that?
I'm.
K
Aware
of
the
intersection
I'm,
not
necessarily
aware
of
specifically,
where
that
no
turn
on
red
sign
would
be
generally
in
intersections,
like
that,
where
you
have
the
no
turn
on
red
there's
at
least
one
sign
up
by
the
red
lights,
it's
themselves.
So
if
there's
that
light
that
sign
on
the
red
light,
then
that's
where
everybody
controlling
that
intersection.
Yes,.
M
And
right
where
the
light
is,
but
the
intersection
is
a
little
angle
funny.
So
that's
what
storing
people
off
because
it
sits
at
the
light,
but
you
can
also
that
turn
it
bears
to
the
right.
There's
a
lane.
That'll
allow
you
to
bear
to
the
right
there
on
your
own,
so
people
think
that's
just
if
you're
at
directly
at
the
intersection,
but
it's
for
the
entire
right
turn
correct.
But
as
soon
as
you
make
the
turn,
the
officer
is
right
there,
hidden
behind
the
cemetery,
killing.
K
N
This
is
also
specific:
I
live
on
Penn,
Avenue,
downtown
and
French
Street
is
behind
where
I
live.
Today
there
were
four
or
five
cars
that
were
towed
on
French
Street.
There's,
always
cars
parked
there
Hey.
What
and
you
know
I
see
other
times
that
cars
are
towed,
but
what
triggers
the
we're
gonna
go
to
French
Street
today
in
tow
those
cars
generally.
K
Somebody
calling
in
to
either
nine
eleven
eleven
a
three
one
one
complaint
about
the
parking
and
people
block
in
front
street
who
are
blocking
loading
areas
or
whatever
those
three
one.
One
complaints
will
come
to
the
Traffic
Division
once
we
get
that
and
we
have
the
manpower
we'll
send
down
to
do
it
or
again,
if
we
get
a
9-1-1
call
from
a
business
or
whatever
saying
hey.
You
know
this
car
sitting
out
here
and
it's
blocking
my
loading
area.
We
go
down
if
there's
four
or
five,
I
can't
just
tow
one,
we
tow
them
all.
K
N
O
K
K
So
I'm
not
a
SWAT
operator
but
as
a
supervisor
net,
there's
a
criteria
depending
on
the
level
of
violence
or
force
or
whatever
just
in
general.
If
there's
a
hostage
situation,
we
believe
there's
a
possible
hostage
situation,
a
barricaded
person
in
a
house
that
won't
come
out
for
the
normal
patrol
officers
or
whatever,
and
if
we
believe
that
the
person
is
possibly
armed,
then
we're
going
to
activate
SWAT
to
come
out
and
handle
that,
and
obviously
we
do
that
because
they
have
the
higher
level
of
training.
K
They
have
the
better
equipment
to
be
able
to
go
in
there
and
safely.
Either
have
negotiators
talk
to
the
person
and
try
and
have
the
person
come
out
or
if,
if
we're
forced
to
go
in,
they
have
the
training,
the
tactics,
the
equipment
to
be
able
to
go
in
there
and
extract
that
person
with
the
least
probability
of
some
kind
of
violence
occurring.
P
So
military
surplus
has
been
in
the
national
news.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
that?
Does
pittsburgh
police
use
any
military
surplus,
maybe
in
the
SWAT
team,
or
anything
like
that?
Not.
K
Q
R
K
I've
been
here
in
the
city,
I've
been
working
in
the
city
for
25
years
now,
I've
been
in
traffic
for
eight
ten
years
in
traffic.
For
ten
years.
What
I've
told
people
from
the
time
that
I
started
in
Pittsburgh?
Is
you
live
in
the
city?
Unless
you
have
a
driveway,
that's
dedicated
to
your
house.
Parking
is
parking,
it's
limited
for
everybody
and
if
everybody
just
gets
along
and
kind
of
as
neighborly
to
each
other,
we
don't
have
a
need
for
it.
K
R
K
K
You
can't
do
that
if
it's
in
the
middle
of
a
nice
straight
piece
of
roadway
and
there's
no
other
traffic
coming,
and
it's
not
posted
no
u-turn
as
long
as
it's
safe
to
do
to
do
so,
you
can
go
ahead
and
make
that
u-turn
yeah
as
long
as
long
as
it's
safe
to
do
so,
and
it's
not
posted
again.
Some
of
the
examples
that
I
gave
are
examples
of
what
would
not
be
a
safe
condition.
So,
therefore,
you
can't
make
a
u-turn
that
way
other
than
that
they'd
be
able
to
make
that
u-turn
right.
G
So
I
was
at
my
community
meeting
last
night
and
the
we
don't.
We
have
like
almost
no
crime
and
my
neighborhood,
the
police
officer.
That
was
there
actually
was
talking
about
that,
but
everybody
complains
about
the
traffic
constantly
I
live
in
Polish
Hill,
and
so
it's
a
big
complaint
that
it's
used.
My
actually
my
speech
to
my
street,
specifically,
which
is
Mellwood
Avenue,
is
used
as
a
cut-through.
Okay,.
J
G
So
there
were
people
talking
about
about
making
like
spray
paint
signs
for
like
Finland
to
make
it
like
that.
You
can't
turn
off
Bigelow
and
like
closing
it
like
making
it
like
local
traffic
only,
but
but
someone
suggested
having
a
police
officer
like
an
honest
street
for
even
a
couple
morning,
commutes
or
something
like
have
a
police
officer
sitting
there
to
try
to
deter
like
speeding.
Is
that
a
possibility
to
arrange
or
if.
K
There
is
speeding
issues
like
that
or
some
kind
of
traffic
problem
other
than
it
just
being
used
as
a
cut-through.
You
can
call
3-1-1
and
make
that
complaint
through
them
and
then,
like
I,
said
it
gets
funneled
into
the
Traffic
Division.
When
we
get
those
complaints,
we
put
them
in
our
list
and
we
get
get
out
and
try
to
do
them
when
we
can,
like
everybody
else,
we're
limited
in
our
manpower
and
we
have
the
entire
city
to
try
and
adjust
traffic
concerns
all
over.
So
we
get
there
and
we
do
the
best
we
can.
K
T
T
There's
an
entrance
to
Trader
Joe's,
so,
if
you're
coming
out
of
the
city,
you
would
make
a
left
into
the
entrance,
but
you
would
have
to
cross
over
a
double
line.
What
is
that?
That's
legal?
That's
that's
legal!
That
is
legal
yeah.
My
a
friend
of
mine
and
I.
Have
this
ongoing
thing
about
pets?
I
have
to
tell
me.
You
said
that
yeah.
K
Thank
you
generally,
usually,
when
there's
an
entrance
like
that
they
usually
put
a
space
in
the
the
line
I'm
guessing
you
know,
whoever
was
painting
the
lines
that
day
maybe
was
texting
or
something
I,
don't
know
they
just
kept
on
going
yeah
if
you're
making
a
turn
in
to
the
shopping
center,
like
that
you're
allowed
to
make
that
turn
over,
that
double
yellow
line.
Hey.
C
Hike
right
here
at
the
at
the
bottom
of
route,
51,
there
is
an
exit
where
people
people
get
off
on
on.
You
know
coming
down
51
on
the
left
to
go
up
on
the
Parkway,
but.
K
C
K
Here's
why,
as
you're
coming
there
and
you're
sitting
in
that
lineup,
which
is
over
in
the
left-hand
Lane
before
the
the
road,
becomes
two
lanes
and
you
can
make
the
right
to
go
onto
Woodville
Street
there's
the
part
that
is
lined
off
and
that's
called
a
Gore.
It's
not
a
traveled
portion
of
the
roadway.
So
you
cannot
cross
over
that's
just
like
driving
down
the
berm
of
65
to
come
up
and
get
onto
the
West
End
bridge.
Okay,
you're
not
allowed
to
drive
off
the
roadway
and
pass
on
the
right-hand
side,
like
that.
K
E
K
K
Training
is
again
I
want
to
say
it's
probably
six
months
or
so
at
least
to
get
them
fully
trained
and
that's
not
only
training
the
dog,
it's
training,
the
handler,
so
the
they're
a
team
they
have
to
be
able
to
read
each
other
know
what
you
know
the
signals
in
RR.
So
when
we
say
training,
you
know
just
because
you're
a
k-9
officer
with
this
dog
and
that
dog
happens
to
retire
and
you
get
a
new
dog.
You
go
through
the
entire
thing.
Again,
it's
not
just
well
I've
already
been
here.
K
You
know,
I'll
just
take
this
dog
and
we're
good
to
go
as
far
as
paying
for
it
give
me
paying
for
the
dog
or
paying
for
the
training
or
I'm,
not
sure,
I,
know
one
of
our
dogs
anyhow.
What
was
donated
by
the
roethlisberger
foundation,
most
of
the
other
dogs
I,
don't
know
if
they
have
a
private
foundation,
the
we
have
an
account
with.
You
know
that
people
can
make
donations
and
they
do
or
if
it's
simply
the
city
goes
out
and
buys
the
dogs
as
the
need,
a
curse.
K
Okay,
as
far
as
vests
go
I,
don't
know
if
they
all
have
vests
I've
seen
our
dogs
with
vests
I,
don't
know
if
they're
ballistic,
vests
I
don't
know
if
they're
vest
just
to
help
with
visibility
and
help
the
handlers
pick
them
up
and
get
them
over
walls
or
fences
or
into
windows
or
whatnot
I.
Don't
know
if
the
ballistic
or
not.
V
J
V
K
V
V
V
K
F
K
Q
K
K
K
Magistrate
fee
is
$10
that
comes
to
whatever
the
local
magistrate
district
is,
then
the
costs
would
come
to
the
municipality
for
the
cost
of
the
prosecution.
Everything
else
goes
to
the
state,
so
the
actual
municipality
that
writes
a
citation
gets
very
little
money
from
that
citation.
So
as
far
as
how
much
we
get
as
far
as
the
city
is
every
year
for
writing.
I
have
no
idea.
K
P
You
talked
a
lot
about
traffic
enforcement
when
you're
called
in
by
like
300
online
ORS.
You
know
PennDOT
something
like
that.
What
sort
of
enforcement
do
you
do
by
default
without
being
called
in,
like
I'm
I,
don't
know
like
just
speeding
that
you
see
while
driving
around
like
I,
don't
know
how
it
works
in
general,
when
you're
not
called
in
in.
K
K
We
will
do
on
occasion
when
we
have
enough
manpower
will
go
out
to
certain
areas
of
the
city
that
are
notorious
for
speeding,
we'll
go
out,
we'll
do
big
group
efforts
and
really
hit
that
hard
for
speeding
enforcement
just
on
our
regular
patrols
as
we're
riding
around
we're
looking
for
any
kind
of
traffic
violation
that
we
see
from
registration
violations
to
inspection
violations,
not
stopping.
It
stops
on
red
lights,
pass
and
illegally
coming
down
the
berm
of
the
road
when
you're
not
supposed
to
anything
that
violates
the
vehicle
code.
K
That's
what
we're
here
for
and
that's
when,
when
our
officers
are
out
working,
that's
generally
what
we're
doing
unless
we
get
tasks
with
some
other
kind
of
special
detail,
not
like
us
with
the
motor
unit.
We
are
getting
tasked
more
and
more
to
do
other
things.
Last
year,
during
the
election,
you
know
we
were
constantly
doing
an
escort
for
the
candidates
coming
in
and
different
things
like
that.
You
know
getting
them
around
the
city,
taking
them
where
they
needed
to
go.
K
We
are
often
pulled
in
to
help
with
protests
and
crowd
control
downtown
to
make
sure
we
do
rolling
roadblocks
to
make
sure
that
people
they
are
expressing
their
First
Amendment
rights,
have
the
security
of
the
car's
not
running
through.
You
know
through
the
group,
or
something
like
that,
so
we'll
do
funeral
or
escorts
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
we'll
cut
into
our
time
as
to
what
we
can
do
for
traffic
enforcement,
but
generally
that's
our
main
priority.
We
go
out
whatever
we
see
in
our
normal
patrols
of
what
will
enforce
all
right.
W
Evening,
everybody
hard
act
to
follow
both
very
good
presentations.
But
again
my
name
is
Jim
Glick
I'm,
a
sergeant
I'm
at
a
major
crime,
specifically
group
violence,
intervention
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
our
Major
Crimes
Division.
Okay.
Now
the
goal
of
major
crimes
is
to
conduct
thorough
and
timely
investigations
that
lead
to
successful
prosecutions.
W
Okay,
the
Major
Crimes
Division
consists
of
homicide
gvi,
which
is
group
violence.
Intervention
I'll
go
over
that
in
a
couple
minutes:
sex
assault,
missing
persons,
robbery,
burglary,
the
mobile
crime
unit
and
Computer
Crimes,
auto
and
arson
squads,
witness
protection
and
night
felony,
so
the
violent
crime
detectives
they
investigate.
They
investigate
all
the
homicides,
suspicious
deaths,
unnatural
deaths
aggravated
assaults
where
a
victim
may
die.
They
also
investigate
non-fatal,
shootings,
kidnappings
and
business
robberies,
so
there's
a
lot
on
their
plate.
Imagine
now
group
violence,
intervention.
W
That's
when
I'm
in
charge
of
that's
a
rather
new
strategy
that
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
ruled
out.
We
handle
all
non-fatal
shootings,
but
we
focus
on
group
violence.
Now,
a
few
years
ago
they
used
to
call
gang
violence.
It's
been
changed
you
over
to
group
violence,
because
groups
a
lot
more
loosely
defined.
A
gang
is
more
of
a
legal
term
that
you
have
to
vet
them
and
there
has
to
be
certain
criteria.
What
we
find
here
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
is
we
more
we
more
or
less
have
groups.
W
We
have
loosely
knitted
communities
that
are
causing
some
issues
and
what
we
find
is
in
a
certain
community.
Less
than
1%
of
the
individuals
in
the
community
are
causing
99%
of
the
problem.
So,
instead
of
focusing
on
the
entire
community
in
punishing
a
community
for
the
violence
that
a
small
group
does
we
utilize
something
called
focused
deterrence
where
we
track
all
of
the
groups,
all
the
individuals
that
are
connected
that
have
feuds
that
individually
and
as
a
group
commit
crimes
together.
W
W
There,
it
goes
ok,
so
custom
notifications
would
be
if
a
particular
group
in
an
area
is
causing
issues
violent
issues.
Now
again,
we
handle
the
violent
crime,
we're
not
so
much
concerned
with
the
loitering
in
that
in
the
open
container
or
what
have
you,
but
if
we
see
violent
crime
sparking
up
in
an
area
arising
it,
what
we'll
do
is
watch
they
go
visit
these
group
members
and
we'll
tell
them
we're
on
the
earth.
We
know
that
you
are.
We
know
what
you're
doing
and
you
got
to
stop
it
now.
If
it
continues.
W
What
we
do
is
we
do
something
called
a
violent
crime
response,
so
a
violent
crime
response
would
be
a
and
a
police
enforcement
action
that
we
do
in
a
community
and
again
we
focus
just
on
the
groups
now
before
we
do
a
violent
crime
response.
We'll
do
things
like
community
outreach,
custom
notifications.
We
now
have
a
gentleman
that
works
with
us,
his
name's
Cornell,
Jones,
I,
don't
know
if
she's
ever
talked
in
here
I
know
he
goes
out.
W
He
talks
to
a
lot
of
the
community
groups,
but
when
he
does
it,
he
runs
a
an
outreach
group
and
what
we
try
and
do
is
we
try
and
give
every
person
with
honorable
exit?
If
you
don't
want
to
be
in
the
life,
if
you
don't
want
to
continue
the
violence,
we
will
show
you
the
way
out
before
we
before
we
do
our
response.
Basically,
by
the
time
we're
doing
a
violent
crime
response,
the
police,
it's
actually
a
failure
on
every
other
part.
It
means
that
we've
tried
other
things
and
we
can't
help.
W
So
at
that
point
we
decide
to
hit
hit
the
streets
okay.
Now,
when
we
hit
the
streets,
the
big
difference
here
is
we
don't
focus
on
the
community?
We
might
have
16
20
individuals,
that's
all
we're
focusing
on.
Yes,
that's
it
we're
not
we're
not
going
the
to
Allentown
or
belt
Hoover
and
just
going
and
impacting
the
streets
there.
What
we're
doing
is
it's
a
focus
deterrence.
We
have
pictures
and
dossiers
of
each
person
that
we're
looking
for
and
we
go
and
get
them.
For
example,
we've
had
quite
a
few
successful
VC
Ortiz.
W
Recently
we
did
one
in
zone
3.
We
had
two
groups
that
were
shooting
back
and
forth.
We
actually
had
six
students.
In
five
days
we
focused
on
18
people.
In
four
days
we
got
nine
of
those
16.
We
got
seven
guns
off
the
street
five
noted
five
custom
notifications
into
axillary
arrests.
Since
that
time,
those
two
groups
have
been
quiet.
Okay.
Now
we
also
deliver
a
message
when
we're
doing
that
response
that
we're
here,
because
you
couldn't
behave.
If
you
don't
want
us,
hear
it
and
I
know
they
don't
want
us
there,
we
don't.
W
We
don't
want
to
be
there
either.
But
if
you
start
act
it
up
we're
gonna,
be
here.
So
that's
the
that's
the
focus
on
the
group
violence
intervention.
This
year,
we
are
at
105
non-fatal,
shootings
last
year.
At
this
time
we
had
just
over
140.
We
are
twenty
six
and
a
half
percent
down
from
2016
as
of
October
1st,
which,
which
is
great
family
life.
Well,
family
life
is
our
outreach
group.
What
they'll
do
is
they'll
go
out
there,
members
of
the
community,
some
of
them
volunteers,
some
of
them
not,
but
they
they
know.
W
W
Just
recently
we
had
someone
come
on
board
that
if
you
have
a
gang
tattoo
she'll
actually
take
the
gang
tattoo
off
you
for
free,
so
I
don't
know
what
she
does,
but
she
removes
the
tattoo
because
we
know
if
you
have
a
tattoo
across
your
forehead
that
says
thug
life
you're,
not
getting
a
very
good
job,
so
we'll
assist
them
enough
anyway,
more
even
on
bridge
minutes.
This
is,
will
help
you
get
a
driver's
license.
W
Get
you
an
ID
that
you've
never
had
helped
you
get
a
job,
helped
you
get
on
anything
anything
that
you
can
imagine
our
outreach
workers
are
certainly
gonna.
Do
they're
gonna
help
you
in
training,
mentoring,
employment,
help.
You
find
a
different
location
because
one
of
the
common
things
that
they
say
is
you
are
the
company
you
keep
so
again.
If
you
want
an
honorable
exit
and
don't
want
to
stay
in
that
life,
you
got
to
remove
yourself.
D
W
And
the
reason
is
because
we're
not
focusing
on
the
community
what
we're
focusing
on
individuals
as
opposed
to
the
community,
for
example,
if
you're
in
your
community
and
you're
not
on
that
list,
look
I
bother
with
you.
We
know
who
we're
going
after
and
if
any
of
those
people
were
to
cry
foul,
we
can
back
that
up.
We
know
why
they're
on
that
list,
they're
not
just
randomly
picked
they're
on
that
list,
because
they
are
violent
individuals.
They
are
people
that
promote
violence,
promote
promote
crime,
terrorize
the
neighborhood,
yes,.
D
That
was
the
second
part
of
the
question.
I
was
going
to
ask
Haley.
Have
you
had
that
the
data
that
you're
collecting
and
you
use
has
that
been
very
helpful
with
just
the
whole
initiative,
because
I've
learned
that
more
that
even
community
groups
need
to
have
more
data
present,
just
to
sort
of
prove
what
they're
saying
and
how
to
get
further
with
efforts.
Absolutely.
W
The
important
thing
about
the
data
that
we
collect
is
we
were
able
to
back
up
the
reason
why
somebody
is
on
that
list.
Not
only
that,
but
we're
able
to
focus
on
who's
causing
the
problem
which
actually
helps
us
solve
crimes,
not
only
non-fatal
shootings,
homicides,
burglaries,
robberies,
the
individuals
that
were
focusing
on
these.
W
I
W
Never
say
that
when
there
is
a
response
team,
it's
just
not
gvi
detectives.
We
have
eight
detectives
handling
all
that.
However,
when
we
do
a
response,
we
pull
from
the
zones-
narcotics,
SWAT
intelligence,
every
resource
that
we
have
probation,
parole,
federal
authorities,
the
FBI
ATF
DEA.
When
we
do
a
response,
it's
certainly
just
not
us
it's
everybody.
But
again
that
is
the
last
step
that
is
okay.
We
can't
we
can't
solve
this
issue
by
talking,
we
gotta
take
it
a
step
further
and
last.
I
W
It's
actually
out
of
the
national
national
initiative
out
of
John
Jay
College
Pittsburgh
was
selected,
there's
only
I
believe
16
cities
that
are
doing
this
Pittsburgh
actually
was
one
of
the
cities
that
was
selected,
I'm
sure
that
the
mayor
and
the
chief
has
something
to
do
with
that.
That's
above
me,
I
know
that
there
everybody
is
very
supportive.
The
mayor
is
very
supportive.
My
chief
is
very
supportive.
All
the
way
down
the
chain
of
command.
X
W
Talking
about
a
call-in
yeah,
and
let
me
explain
that
the
callin
we
have
not
done
it
yet
and
I'll
explain
to
you
why
the
callin
is
when
the
department
or
the
GBI
detectives,
along
with
the
department,
call
in
different
members
of
groups
that
have
been
violent
and
we
sit
him
down
in
a
room.
Much
like
this,
and
we
tell
him
you
know
we're
on
the
you
know,
it's
more
or
less
a
custom
notification
in
a
bigger
in
a
bigger
setting.
We
deliver
messages
through
the
community.
W
I
know
the
Mayor
was
gonna
talk,
the
DA
was
gonna
talk,
the
US
Attorney
was
going
to
talk,
but
it's
about
an
hour
long
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
hour,
they
listen
to
our
message
and
we
actually
all
eat
together.
The
reason
we
didn't
do
it.
It
was
scheduled
for
the
end
of
August.
We
just
weren't
ready.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
do
it,
it's
done
right
and
it's
we
get
the
most
bang
for
our
buck.
Y
W
C
C
So
much
I
mean
we
used
to
think
that
you
know
years
ago
when
I
was
young,
the
south
side
was
kind
of
a
dangerous
area,
and
then
the
south
side
became
all
ritzy
and
all
that
stuff
with
clubs
and
things
like
that
and
just
people
just
needed
to
move
someplace
else.
That's
what
we
think
you
know,
but
I.
W
Can
tell
you
before
I
came
over
here
to
measure
crimes
and
before
I
was
promoted
to
sergeant.
I
was
actually
a
detective
at
zone
sex
for
actually
seven
years
so
I
know
the
area
very
well
and
I
can
tell
you
is
down
six
is
a
very
safe
place,
there's
been
some
optics
and
crime,
I,
don't
know
I
I
could
guess
just
like
you
could,
but
you
know
who
knows
I
could
just
be
that
it
goes
in
cycles.
I,
don't
know.
Z
This
is
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
order
of
events.
This
past
weekend
we
had
I
live
here
in
zone
1
and
Perry
hilltop
yeah,
and
they
had
a
peace
march.
Starting
I
think
was
on
Saturday
and
what
had
happened
is
a
mom
was
carrying
her
baby
and
I.
Don't
know
what
she
was
involved
in,
but
she
was
murdered
and
it's
at
the
bottom
of
Charles.
Z
They
have
a
whole
thing
set
up,
and
then
the
people
marched
for
the
peace
march
from
that
spot
to
I
believe
this
station
yeah
or
zone
one
there
on
on
the
bottom
of
the
street,
and
your
last
thing
was
where
you
had
clergy
and
you
had
people
and
one
of
the
things
I
was
told
by
some
of
the
marchers
as
I
didn't
participate.
They
were
surprised
at
how
well
you
guys
handled
them.
Yelling
at
you.
Z
Z
W
V
V
M
26
percent-
that
is
a
number
you
should
be
very
proud
of,
and
what
I've
think
personally
I
so
I
think
I'm
correct
and
that,
for
you
guys
to
get
those
type
of
numbers
and
to
do
what
you
do.
You
also
need
help
from
the
community
and
certain
information
brought
to
you
and
witnesses,
or
just
that
you
know,
information
about
what
took
place
and
who's
involved
in
what
now.
My
problem
that
I
found
from
living
inside
of
the
city
is
that
there
are.
M
There
are
a
lot
of
good
people
but
they're
afraid
so
I
hear
all
the
things
that
you're
doing
for
these
people,
who
are
saying
I,
want
to
get
out
of
this
I,
don't
want
to
live
this
life
or
you're,
giving
them
opportunities
for
it.
But
what
about
the
people
who
really
want
to
help,
but
they
have
to
live
there
and
if
they
come
forward
with
information
for
you,
what
do
you
have
for
them
that
protects
them
or
doesn't
bring
in
repercussions
on
them?
Sure,
good,
good.
W
Question
we're
working
a
lot
with
the
community.
Now
Cornell
has
put
together
quite
a
network.
The
main
thing
to
remember
is:
if
you
want
to
work
with
us,
there's
always
a
Cornell
calls
it
your
lane.
Okay,
you
need
to
find
your
lane,
so
you
may
be.
You
may
not
be
the
guy
that
gets
out
there
doing
a
protest
and
shakes
hands
and
tries
to
help
people.
You
may
be
the
guy
that
I,
don't
know
is
in
the
background,
but
nothing
you
do
ever
has
to
be
public,
so
will
always
protect
identities.
W
It
could
always
be
confidential.
We
have
a
great
witness
protection
program
if,
if
it
comes
to
that,
but
the
bottom
line
is,
we
do
need
community
help.
It's
it's
a
main
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
as
far
as
helping
people
get
out
of
the
get
out
of
the
life,
I
think
that
the
more
people
we
get
out
of
life
we
actually
are
helping
you,
the
more
people
we
get
out
of
doing
trouble.
You're
gonna
have
a
better
community
a
little
bit
at
a
time.
Two
attacks
right.
V
W
Call
the
sergeant
who
witness
protection
we
fill
out
some
paperwork,
we'll
bring
you
in.
We
sit
down
at
a
table
and
meet
and
go
over
everything
step
by
step
determinations
made
and
they
take
it
from
there.
It's
it's
set
up.
So
I,
don't
even
know
what
happens
after
that.
You
don't
I
mean
so
I
know
they
do
a
very
good
job.
I
know
that
their
interest
is
your
safety,
so
that
you
know
they
take
it
very
serious.
But
as
far
as
what
happens
after
I
make
the
connection,
I
don't
know.
J
W
V
W
R
I
thought
that
you
know
that
what
you're
talking
about
just
brought
up
a
thought
for
me
with
so
many
other
refugees
and
immigrants
we've
been
getting
depending
on
some,
where
they're
coming
from
and
their
experiences
they're,
they're
afraid
of
the
police.
So
even
though
you
know
we
know
you're
there
to
help
them.
So
what
have
you
been
doing
or
is
anything
you
think
you
can
do
to
help
them
understand
and
and
get
over
that
fear,
I.
W
V
W
Language
barrier:
we've
we've
actually
worked
around
quite
a
few
times,
I
mean
in
patrol
oddly
enough,
no
no
enough,
but
thankfully
nine
eleven
one
actually
has
a
like
a
language
line.
I
can
call
in
the
9-1-1
if
I
go
to
your
house
and
you
need
something.
They'll
get
me
an
interpreter
on
the
phone
as
we
stand
there,
I've
done
it
four
languages
that
I
couldn't
even
imagine,
but
they
do
have
that
capability
as
far
as
the
the
cultural
aspect
of
them
being
afraid
of
the
police.
U
W
Felony,
which
is
actually
the
we
just
call
them
the
crime
unit.
Now,
when
everybody
goes
home,
there's
still
a
unit
that
stays
in
this
building
in
case
there
is
a
serious
incident,
they
go
out
secure
the
scene
start
processing
evidence
well
we're
coming
in
from
home.
So
night,
felony
is
just
sort
of
like
a
cold
like
a
skeleton
crew
that
holds
down
the
fort
until
we
get
here
from
home.
AA
W
So
I
don't
know
if
I
misspoke
or
misunderstood,
but
make
no
mistake.
If
there's
an
arrest
to
be
made,
we
make
the
arrest
there's
no
way
around
that.
What
I'm
saying
is
before
we
hit
the
rest
of
the
20
group
members.
We
we
try
and
we
try
and
solve
it
other
ways,
but
if,
if,
if
I'm,
a
shooter,
okay
I'm
getting
arrested
first
and
then
we're
gonna
deal
with
their
group,
so
we
don't
do
outreach
instead
of
law
enforcement
by
any
means.
If
there's
an
arrest
to
be
made,
we
make
that
arrest
immediately.
W
A
Well,
I
hope
everybody
heard
a
lot
of
interesting
and
new
information
open
your
mind
up
to
what's
going
on
in
all
these
different
areas
and
I
heard
a
lot
of
good
questions,
look
forward
to
some
more
feedback.
We
have
the
city
website
where
you
can
email
and
ask
more
questions
and
start
conversations
that
way.
A
You
should
know
your
zone
commander
and
if
you
have
more
questions
or
interested
in
following
up
by
joining
a
zone
group
or
just
want
more
conversation,
you
can
contact
them
get
get
that
started.
Next
week
we
have
the
zone
Public,
Safety
Council,
meeting
at
st.
pantless
church,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
creation
of
our
recent
cert
Response
Team
in
communities
for
critical
incidents
where
civilians
learn
how
to
help
in
responding
to
emergencies.