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B
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C
We
have
folks
from
our
different
divisions
that
are
going
to
get
in-depth
on
certain
topics
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
a
brief
Q&A
and
then
any
questions
that
you
know
may
may
go
into
a
little
more
depth
than
we're
able
to
cover
as
a
group
we're
participating
in
your
slack
messenger
service
and
so
we'll
be
able
to
answer
those
offline
online.
So
again,
just
on
behalf
of
PWSA
welcome
and
I'm
gonna.
Kick
it
over
to
our
director
of
Finance
Kent
Lindsay
who's.
Gonna
talk
all
about
numbers
and
money.
D
D
Thanks
James,
my
name
is
Kent
Lindsey
I'm
finance,
director
at
Pittsburgh,
Water
and
Sewer
Authority,
and
tonight
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
something
a
little
different
than
you
typically
would
see
in
a
finance
presentation.
Yeah,
we
do
all
the
accounting
right.
We
do
the
payroll,
we
cut
checks.
We
do
the
procurement,
we
do
all
those
back
office
things,
but
one
of
the
most
important
things
we've
been
engaged
in
this
year
has
been
planning
and
we've
taken
a
totally
different
approach
to
planning
at
PWSA
and
I'm
pretty
excited
to
roll
this
out.
D
This
is
a
first
audience
that
will
that
we'll
see
kind
of
what
we're
doing,
but
it's
a
total
change
in
how
we
do
things
so
we're
about
to
transform
the
organization.
You've
heard
lots
of
things
in
the
news
and
lots
of
things
that
Ben's
going
on,
but
what's
key
for
us
to
change
how
we
do
things
historically,
and
this
organization
has
been
run
such
that
you
know
we
figure
out
what
we
need
to
do
to
fit
within
the
confines
of
a
budget
and
a
budget
that
was
developed,
I,
don't
know
in
1942
or
something.
D
But
it's
a
long
long
time
ago,
right
and
the
the
next
budget
got
escalated
by
a
couple
of
percent
and
a
couple
of
percent.
It
really
didn't
reflect
what
needs
to
be
done
with
the
organization
we've
taken
a
holistic
look.
What
do
we
need
to
do
as
an
organization
we
need
to
have
clean
water?
We
need
to
deliver
clean
water.
We
need
to
have
conservation,
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
not
wasting
water.
We
need
to
be
responsive
to
outages
and
breaks,
and
there
are
industry
standards
around
how
you
should
deliver
this
service.
D
We've
taken
a
look
at
those
industry
standards
and
we've
started
to
put
those
things
into
place
and
metrics
from
everything
to
how
fast
we
pick
up
phones
and
customer
service,
how
quickly
we
respond
to
an
outage
or
a
backup
of
a
catch
basin.
All
of
those
things
have
metrics
that
are
have
been
established
by
the
industry
and
and
endorsed
by
the
Public
Utility
Commission,
and
so
we've
taken
a
look.
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
achieve
those
goals?
D
And
so
we've
really
taken
a
look
at
at
every
aspect
of
the
organization
and
we've
begun
to
now
develop
a
plan.
That
plan
is
there's
about
80
percent
complete
it's
been
quantified
and
now
we're
ready
to
kind
of
think
about
exactly
how
we're
going
to
deploy
these
things.
So
we
have
all
of
these
things
right
that
we've
identified
that
we
need
to
fix.
We
need
to
do
better
everything
from
water
quality
system,
reliability,
billing
financial
controls
outage
response
times
all
of
those
things,
and
so
we've
identified
all
these
projects.
D
Okay,
we're
going
to
address
the
reservoirs
tanks
and
our
this
water
treatment
plant.
You
know
this
water
treatment
plant
is
was
built
in
the
1960s
and
it's
it's
in
need,
as
many
other
assets
are
across
our
asset
portfolio
of
a
substantial
investment.
Ok,
we
have
water
mains
and
are
clear
well
that
need
need
work.
D
We
need
to
really
look
at
how
we
run
our
system
and
in
order
to
run
our
system,
we
need
to
measure
our
system.
Today
we
don't
meter
every
outpoint
for
water,
so
there
are
places
that
use
water,
but
we
don't
have
a
meter
on
it.
So
we
don't
know
how
much
water
is
flowing
through
that
that
asset.
So
we
need
to
meter
everything
until
we
meet
her
everything
we
won't
know
where
our
leaks
are.
D
E
D
The
sewage
yeah
so
so
sewage,
we,
yes,
you
get
sewage
bills
and
they're
based
on
your
water
consumption
right,
the
so,
if
you
take
water
in
water,
is
gonna
go
back
out
right
right.
There
are
a
couple
instances
where
that
doesn't
large
industrial
users,
for
instance,
will
actually
consume
it.
We
have
River
Bend
properties
that
that
owns
a
former
Heinz
facility
that
did
baby
food
and
ketchup
right.
D
D
D
All
of
this
all
of
these
initiatives
are
going
to
require
systems.
We
do
not
have
state
of
the
art
computer
systems,
whether
that's
a
billing
system,
a
financial
reporting
system
or
these
performance
metrics.
So
there's
a
lot
of
systems
that
we
need
to
put
in
place.
We
need
to
integrate
so
that
all
of
our
data
can
be
viewed,
reported,
tracked,
monitored
and
action
can
be
taken.
Based
on
that
data,
we
can
move
to
the
next
one.
So
what's
that
mean
so
this
is
most
of
those
items
are
what
we
call
capital
items
right.
D
A
sewer
system
would
have
about
a
50-year
life,
and
so
you
know
now
you're
talking
about
300
million
dollars
and
frankly,
if
you're
only
spending,
you
know
thirty
to
fifty
million
dollars,
you're
falling
behind
and
for
decades
this
organization
has
fallen
behind
and
so
we've
developed
the
plan
to
actually
invest
the
money
in
the
systems.
So
we've
got.
You
know,
there's
some
ramp
up
time,
but
in
time
we're
going
to
get
to
that
200
million
dollar
a
year,
investment
level.
D
F
D
This
has
been
an
evolving
thing
over
over
the
last
well,
since
I
came
on
board,
so
I've
only
been
here
for
about
two
years,
and
so
since
I
came
on
board,
you
know
the
first
thing
I
had
to
do
was
a
step.
You
know
finance
guy
right,
so
I
got
to
get
all
the
financial
controls.
Financial
processes
and
procedures
in
place
be
sure
we're
not
wasting
your
money.
D
Have
to
take
that
kind
of
we
have
to
take
that
plan
to
the
board
before
I
want
to
before
I
can
get
into
you
know,
rates
and
charges
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
needs
to
go
to
the
board
get
their
authorization
before
that
happens,
that's
planned
for
either
late
this
month
or
immediately
next
month,
but
then
that'll
come
out
at
that
point
in
time:
okay,
operating
costs:
this
is
our
operating
cost.
This
is
PW
essays
operating
costs.
Of
course
we
have
additional
costs
over
and
above
that,
and
that's
the
alkis
and
costs
right
I.
D
You
probably
remember
from
your
bills.
You
also
have
a
sewage
treatment
charge
on
your
bills.
That's
for
alkis
an
we
don't
make
any
money
on
that,
the
we
they
send
us
a
bill
and
we
send
you
a
bill,
and
so
that's
what
that
is.
So
this
is
purely
for
water
service
and
sewer
conveyance
service.
So
you
can
see
that
the
costs
go
up
and
you
know
if
we're
going
to
invest
all
that
money
that
you
saw
on
the
previous
slide.
D
G
D
G
D
In
case
you
were
wondering
about
the
details
of
that
very
statement.
The
next
the
next
slide
starts
at
about
fifty
million
dollars
a
year,
but
as
we
invest
all
of
that
money,
you
see
that
grows
substantially.
So,
just
as
that,
capital
figure
went
very
large.
We
fund
it
primarily
out
of
debt,
and
so
our
debt
service
costs
go
up.
Okay,
so
that's
that
one.
D
D
You
can
see
that
by
far
the
largest
single
share
is
that
alkis
and
charge
right
debt
service,
as
you
were
mentioning
before
about
20
percent,
so
the
direct
expense
of
bringing
water
to
your
house
is
about
18
percent
of
those
costs
that
you
saw
before,
and
the
cost
of
conveying
sewage
away
from
the
customer
home
is
about
10
percent,
and
then
we
have
some
support
costs
of
about
16
percent,
but
the
rest
of
this
stuff
right,
57
percent
of
our
costs
are
fixed
nothing.
We
can
do
about
them
right.
D
G
F
F
D
They're
in
the
water
treatment,
business
and
I
wouldn't
propose
to
tell
them
how
how
to
do
it.
You
certainly
have
as
much
opportunity
they
have
public
board
meetings
as
well.
There
are
public
entity
as
well
so
yeah
they've
they've
got
some
material
charges
a
very
large
plant.
They
treat
sewage
from
83
municipalities,
not
just
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
they
share
that
cost
across
all
of
those
municipalities.
And
it's
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
It's
based
on
the
water
consumption
at
the
at
the
at
that
location
with.
F
H
D
D
D
Well,
if,
if
there
is
a,
if
there's
a
need
to
test
for
where
the
leak
is
we
can,
we
can
accommodate
that,
but
typically
you're
going
to
find
an
area,
that's
wet,
you're
gonna
find
an
area
that
is
now.
If
you
wait
a
very
long
time.
You
know
it
may
get
dry,
but
that
would
be
a
long
time
without
water.
So,
typically
you
can
you.
There
will
be
moisture
where
there's
the
location
of
a
leak.
I
D
Plan
was
built
around
the
long
term,
forecast
we've
taken
a
very
long-term
look.
We
have
prioritized
those
things
that
are
critical,
those
things
that
will
have
a
lasting
impact
for
our
customers
to
ensure
that
this
water
system
is
in
place
and
in
good
condition
and
able
to
provide
good
service
over
the
long
term.
So
we
have
prioritized
those
items,
there's
clearly
short-term
ones
as
well,
but
we've
we've
gone
in
depth
on
a
prioritization.
E
D
D
This
plant
needs
to
have
work
and
the
water
lines
need
to
have
work
and
the
tanks
and
the
reservoirs
the
meters
need
to
be
there.
All
of
those
things
still
need
to
be
done,
so
we
have
ensured
that
the
investments
were
making
are
things
that
anyone
would
use,
regardless
of
the
future
of
the
organization.
B
Just
so
everyone
knows
as
well.
There
are
you
guys,
have
your
note
cards
there.
So
if
you
have
questions
that
aren't
on
it
or
unanswered
Rachel
and
her
team
have
joined
the
slack,
so
you
can
post
them
there
and
they
will
answer
them
or
you
can
just
put
them
on
the
card
and
type
them
up
later.
Just
stay
on
schedule
for
for
them,
that's,
okay!
So
every
question
yeah.
C
Again,
all
right
so
moving
right
along,
we
are
gonna,
kick
it
over
to
Barry.
King
Barry
is
our
interim
director
of
construction
and
engineering,
and
he
is
also
going
to
cover
our
operations
functions.
Unfortunately,
our
Director
of
Operations
was
unable
to
make
it
so
Barry
is
going
to
walk
us
through
that
and.
J
J
Right
good
evening,
all
right
so
I'll
be
discussing
field
services.
Our
operations
group
I,
am
the
interim
director
of
engineering
construction,
so
I'm
substituting
on
behalf
of
rickover
Meyer,
who
normally
covers
this
subject
matter,
so
forgive
me
for
any
possible
misstatement
I
will
attempt
to
make
sure
that
I
am
on
track
with
you,
so
a
factoid
for
PWSA.
J
Pwsa
all
of
our
water
is
withdrawn
from
the
Allegheny
River.
It's
all
surface
water,
it's
treated
here
at
the
plant
field
services
is
responsible
for
the
update
and
the
field
work
with
regards
to
any
of
the
infrastructure
for
the
distribution
of
the
water.
So
we
have
water
pipes
in
excess
of
nine
hundred
and
sixty-five
miles,
25,000
valves,
it's
about
7400,
hydrants,
five
different
reservoirs
of
which
several
have
been
in
the
news
were
in
the
process
of
updating
many
of
them
at
this
time
that
covers
to
the
system's
eleven
storage
tanks.
J
Quite
a
significant
capacity
and
a
total
of
11
pump
stations
for
providing
the
pressure
within
the
system
and
getting
the
water
to
where
it
needs
to
be
stored
and
distributed
water
repair
crews
are
essential
to
our
operations.
We
have
really
excellent
staff
that
daily
is
responding
to
emergencies
as
they
get
covered
most
recently
and
most
prominently.
We've
had
the
land
for
rising
main
repair.
That's
been
ongoing
and
was
completed.
J
We
have
valve
crews
that
operate
throughout
the
city
without
our
valves
we're
really
at
a
situation
to
be
able
to
continue
to
provide
service
so
they're
essential
to
our
operations.
Any
time
we
have
an
emergency
they're
out
there
to
address,
locating
the
valves,
maintaining
the
valves
and
opening
and
closing
as
necessary
to
be
able
to
perform
the
repair
services
with
little
loss
of
water,
hydrant
crews.
We
have
a
number
of
crew
members
that
are
throughout
the
system
daily.
J
They
do
the
testing
to
ensure
that
there's
adequate
flow
and
pressure
for
any
firefighting
services
that
are
done,
and
they
also
do
the
maintenance
and
repair
on
all
the
hydrants.
Throughout
the
system
we
have
a
crew
of
plumbers.
Throughout
our
system.
They
are
responsible
for
doing
the
maintenance,
whether
it's
at
the
pump
stations
or
individual
service
lines
throughout
the
plant,
the
sewer
operations
we
we
have
I,
don't
know
if
your
sometimes
cannot
be
clear.
J
We
are
responsible
for
the
sewage
lines
from
your
sewer,
lateral
out
to
sewer
mains
as
they
collect
the
sewage,
but
any
point
the
sewage
gets
to
a
common
Junction
where
there's
multiple
contributions
from
adjacent
municipalities
that
then
becomes
Alka
sans
infrastructure,
largely
so
we're
dealing
with
about
a
hundred
thirty
miles
of
storm
water,
sewer,
pipe
sanitary
sewer
about
170
miles.
We
have
nine
hundred
miles
of
CSOs.
That's
combined
sewer
where
water
from
storm
water
and
sanitary
is
combined
overflow
structures
we
own
twelve
of
them.
J
We
have
four
pump
stations
and
over
25,000
catch
basins
throughout
the
roadways
in
Pittsburgh
sewer,
repair,
crews
daily.
These
guys
are
out
there
doing
the
repair
and
maintenance
work
on
individual
sewer
lines.
We
have
up
to
96
inch
diameter
sewers
within
our
system
very
large,
very
old.
They
can
be
as
old
as
1800s
vintage
lines,
so
they're
essential
for
keeping
the
system
flowing.
J
Inspection
crews
are
using
modern
tools.
We
have
the
CCTV
closed
caption
television
services,
where
they
can
go
into
the
sewers
and
actually
identify
damage
to
the
lines
before
they
actually
result
in
a
blockage
or
a
full
failure
of
the
lines.
These
crews
are
out
there
daily
cleaning,
we
have
Vactor
truck
and
we
clean
the
catch
basins.
We
also
employ
subcontractors
for
that
duty
as
well
catch
basin
crews.
J
Many
times
you'll
see
catch
basins
throughout
the
city
that
our
crews
are
either
in
the
process
of
addressing
inspecting,
repairing
we're
trying
to
bring
them
up
to
the
latest
88
standards
for
bikeability
and
passability.
So
and
with
regards
to
our
future
challenges,
we
are
thank
you
well
done
so
somewhat
leaning
towards
what
Ken
was
telling.
You
were
in
the
asset
lifecycle,
a
lot
of
our
system.
J
We
have
pump
stations
that
date
back
to
1828
as
our
first
pump
station
that
was
ever
constructed,
so
we're
in
a
constant
cycle
of
attempting
to
renew
and
rehabilitate
as
many
of
the
points
of
infrastructure
that
we
have
to
get
that
out
in
advance
of
it
actually
failing
and
the
cost
of
that
is
a
substantial
burden,
but,
as
Kant
had
indicated,
we
are
planning
for
that,
and
so
I
think
that
covers.
Are
there
any
questions
that
you
might
have
that
I
might
be
able
to
answer
with
regards
yes.
K
J
L
J
M
So
in
and
I'm
sorry
I
missed
the
first
speaker,
but
in
thinking
about
the
fact
that
you
guys
have
an
overall
transformation
or
transition
plan
for
the
organization.
I
can't
help
but
ask
the
question
of
what
role
consultants
are
going
to
have
in
decision-making.
That
would
affect
the
public
in
terms
of
safety
and
stuff
like
that,
because
what
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
in
the
news,
that
kind
of
surprised
me
and
and
I
think
angered.
A
lot
of
people.
M
Frankly
me
me
included,
was
that
it
was
reported
that
a
consultant
who
was
asked
to
save
money
for
the
system,
which
is
legitimate,
was
responsible
for
recommending
a
switch
in
the
chemical
that
ultimately
caused
the
lead
situation
to
get
worse
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
thinking
with,
like
a
public
managers,
mind
I
have
to
ask
the
question.
You
know
how
much
decision-making
do
we
put
into
people
who
were
basically
their
responsibility,
is
just
to
save
money.
So.
J
What
you're
talking
about
is
something
that
is
a
historical
contract
that
no
longer
exists
that
particular
contract.
The
way
it
was
set
up
was
an
incentive-based
contracting
for
the
firm.
They
would
get
some
amount
of
payment
based
upon
how
much
money
they
were
saving.
That
is
not
the
case
any
longer
they're
held,
as
can
you
weren't
here
I
apologize
Kent
was
previously
scribing.
J
That
industry
standard
is
what
we're
attempting
to
go
for
that
we're
trying
to
get
clearly
the
most
responsible
contracting
that
we
can
in
place
with
all
the
consultants
moving
forward,
so
that
anything
that
they
are
doing
they're
held
to
the
responsibility
to
achieve
industry
standards
and
everything
that
they're
producing.
So
we
acknowledge
what
your.
N
J
The
authority
is
also
in
the
process
the
human
resources
department,
as
many
positions
as
we
can
fill
with
PWSA
employees
over
time
with
the
increasing
percentage.
You
will
see
us
the
demographic
of
PWSA,
changing
such
that
there's,
a
decreasing
amount
of
consultants
and
an
increasing
amount
of
permanent
employees
for
the
authority.
O
Hello,
well,
you
know
how
it
is
like
living
in
Pittsburgh,
the
Townies,
we're
always
talking
we're
always
being
told
how
old
our
infrastructure
is.
It's
so
old,
it's
on
its
last
legs
right
so
but
you're,
an
engineer
there's
like
some
talk
about
how
our
stormwater
sewage
systems
are
all
like
blending
in
with,
like
you
know,
other
forms
of
drinking
water
or
whatever,
and
it
all
empties
out
into
the
Allegheny
River
like
what
what's
going
on
with
that
like
how
much
truth
is
that
is
there
to
that
we're
so.
J
E
My
question
was
as
far
as
the
substructure
of
that
sewage
line,
I
I
recently
acquired
a
home
and
in
the
alleyways
and
behind
my
house,
it's
I,
guess
looking
at
this
map,
it
says
Pennsylvania
American
has
it,
but
a
couple
blocks
over
is
Bell
silver.
Well,
during
the
course
of
the
day
and
my
job,
the
alleyways
are
the
same,
and
it's
like
they're
potholes
and
like
you
could
tell
that
that
alleyways
caving
in
and
it's
behind
the
homes.
So
I'm
saying
the
sewer
systems,
I,
guess
deteriorating,
but
I've
called
for
residents.
E
J
You
could
definitely
make
sure
that
that
question
is
clearly
stated
on
your
card
social.
Do
the
research
to
figure
out
who
has
the
actual
right-of-way
for
that
alleyway
and
then
try
to
backtrack
to
get
that
address,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
get
that
taken
care
of.
If
it's
us
it's,
you
know,
DPW,
we'll
we'll
figure
it
out.
So
if
you
can
definitely
list
that
on
there.
Thank
you
definitely.
G
P
G
R
J
We're
looking
at
plans
for
insuring
that
there
is
water
safety
and
stats
under
certain
circumstances,
that
being
one
its
your
source,
water,
contaminated
or
threatened.
One
of
the
things
that
the
city
has
had
a
really
amazing
benefit
of
is
the
amount
of
storage.
The
455
million
gallons
is
substantial,
and
so
it
allows
us
to
have
events
that
occur,
that
would,
for
a
smaller
community
or
for
a
smaller
system,
with
less
storage
would
force
them
to
run
out
of
water.
J
We
have
a
significant
amount
of
storage
within
the
system
that
has
allowed,
such
as
that
particular
event,
you're,
recalling
that
we
were
able
to
close
the
intakes
not
take
any
water
during
that
event
and
then
bring
the
system
back
into
service
with
withdrawing
water.
After
all,
testing
had
positively
cleared
so.
F
Back
in
May,
you
said
to
the
Pittsburgh
courier
that
projects
had
already
started
Mount
Washington
specifically,
so
as
the
operations
lead
tell
us
how
much
of
the
future
plan
has
been
completed,
what
neighborhoods
have
been
looked
into?
What
neighborhoods
have
had
some
effect?
Where
have
you
success
stories?
Yeah?
What's
your
success
story
so
far,
and
how
long
have
you
been
succeeding.
F
Pickering
said
in
May
that
that
Mount
Washington
was
already
getting
lead
pipes.
Oh
sorry,.
J
J
So
if
we
were
going
to
do
any
projects
that
required
replacement
of
just
the
public
side
we
have
and
the
private
side
is
led,
we've
stopped
doing
those
projects
all
together,
there's
been
a
moratorium
on
pursuing
those
we're
right
now
evaluating
a
number
of
different
techniques.
One
of
them
that
had
been
trialed
two
weeks
ago
was
an
epoxy
coating,
EEP
I'p,
going
ahead
and
disconnecting
pipe
and
cleaning
it
and
putting
on
this
epoxy
we're
waiting
test
results
on
that.
J
That's
one
possibility,
there's
other
potential
replacement
technologies
that
we're
also
going
to
bring
in
one
of
them
being
the
actual
replacement
of
by
pulling
it
out
and
pulling
behind
it
a
new
line.
So
that's
going
to
be
another
demonstration
project
we're
trying
to
get
in
place
fairly
quickly,
so
there's
ways
to
which
we're
trying
to
combat
and
then
the
other
one
that
we
discussed
with
the
board.
J
That
operations
has
been
employing
is
a
pipe
bursting
technology
where
you're
actually
taking
a
head
through
the
pipe
and
bursting
the
existing
lead
line
splitting
it
apart
and
putting
can
right
behind
it
a
new
copper
line.
So
you
don't
have
to
dig
up
all
the
yards
and
all
that
expense.
So
that's
another
one
that
we're
seeing
some
success
with.
So
definitely.
K
J
K
Then
I
think
was
from
May
two
hundred
I
guess
late
July.
What
was
you
know
closed
up
and
he
guess
what
running
the
fire
hydrant
insurance,
McAuliffe,
oh
and
then
what
I
would
like
I
think
was
way.
Maybe
beginning
me,
I
gotta,
maybe
at
least
two
inch
of
water
in
my
basement,
and
it's
not
what
it
didn't
rain
for
like
three
days
and
I
thought
about
this
water
is
coming
from
a
fire
hydrant.
K
You
guys
are
dumping
into
what
accommodation,
whatever
going
down
to
the
sewer,
but
eventually
maybe
didn't
make
it
just
win
and
sit
under
the
warm
under
the
ground.
I
went
to
my
basement
and
I
called
PwC
some
and
time
to
come
a
look
at
it's.
What
it
calls
see
what's
happening,
they
all
they
said.
Oh,
we
look
at
it.
K
K
All
this
time,
I
never
had
any
water
coming
in
and
the
ten
it
was
in
and
they
have
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
basement,
including
clothing,
material,
all
got
damaged
and
my
flood
insurance
couldn't
take
it
because
it's
not
my
personal
stuff,
so
they
these
people
have
their
own.
What
I
call
it
they
have
to
deal
with
it
and
I
can't
help
it
that
they
keep
asking
me.
What
can
I
do?
How
can
I
get
my
stuff
replaced?
That's
one
of
the
problem.
K
Have
it
I'm
still
facing
the
second
thing,
going
back
to
the
pipe
you
talking
about
you
just
line
it
up
and
I.
Think
if
I
remember
or
lining
is
something
when
a
pipe
crack
on
the
ground,
maybe
shift
you
push
a
worry
caller
like
a
line
through
it.
You
just
get
a
bypassed,
or
this
shouldn't
be
obstacle,
and
usually,
when
I
talk
to
some
plumbers,
they
say
this
party
should
last
about
five
to
ten
years.
Is
that
true
nah.
J
In
this
instance,
what
we
did
is
we
threaded
through
the
60-inch
pipe
of
48
inch
HDPE
line,
so
it's
full
replacement
of
inside
of
the
pipe
using
it
as
a
conduit,
and
so
that
has
the
full
life
expectancy
that
the
HDPE
any
other
new
line
that
we're
putting
in
it's
going
to
be
just
as
long
as
any
of
those.
So
we
definitely
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
but
this
isn't
the
same
technique.
This
is
absolutely
replacing
on
both
ends
where
we
disconnected
the
existing
line
took
them
out.
G
J
Not
necessarily
it's,
and
so
the
demands
that
we
had
back
when
the
system
was
originally
designed.
Aren't
the
same.
The
industry
has
changed
within
Pittsburgh,
so
we're
not
having
to
pump
the
same
rate.
So
we
did
all
the
analysis
and
it's
commensurate
to
and
because
of
some
of
the
to
see
fact
the
smoothness
factor
of
the
pipe
it's
making
up
for
whatever
the
decrease
flow
capacity
would
be.
I
have.
E
S
S
And
I
can't
even
tell
you
how
long
ago
was
with
the
dead
deer
in
the
reservoir
and
all
that,
and
they
wanted
the
boy
water.
They
had
a
boil
water
warning
and
all
that,
but
I
was
just
kind
of
surprised.
It
dragged
on
because
I
thought
that
that
portion
that
side
of
the
city
like
I,
can
see
it
in
the
north
side.
You
know
we
would
have
been
in
Millvale
with
us
and
like
along
here
and
but
like
Lawrenceville,
and
all
that
I
thought
they
could
have
drawn
their
water
from
another
source.
J
The
way
our
system
is
connected
and
some
of
the
altered
water
pathways
that
were
on
now
with
the
fact
that
we
have
the
Highland
one
reservoir
offline,
the
mfp
plant
is
currently
offline,
that
there
are
some
extended
networking
within
the
system.
So,
as
a
precaution,
as
Bob
Weimer
had
said
on
a
couple
of
different
interviews,
a
high
level
of
precaution
that
we
made
the
decision
in
the
state
had
encouraged
the
decision
to
do
the
boil
water
as
we
implemented
it
all
right.
So
I'm
gonna
talk
more
towards
what
my
day-to-day
routine
is.
J
So
with
regards
to
our
engineering
departments,
it's
the
department
of
engineering
and
construction,
so
we
are
responsible
for
the
the
design
and
the
construction
of
new
rehabilitated
and
replacement
infrastructure
within
the
entire
PWSA
system
plans.
Capital
improvement
projects
routinely
involve
most
of
what
I've
shown
here.
Our
water
pump
stations,
water
transmission,
water
distribution
lines,
our
storm
and
combined
sewer
collection,
piping
systems.
As
part
of
the
engineering
departments
duties,
we
have
a
responsibility
for
the
preparation
of
the
five-year
capital
improvement
program.
Kent
was
talking
about
that.
We've
actually
extended
that
out
to
the
25-year
marks.
J
To
give
us
a
good
gauge
as
to
what
we're
going
to
anticipate
in
coming
years
for
lending
needs,
so
the
project's
shown
here
that
is
the
new
Highland
pump
station.
That's
with
regards
to
the
Highland
two
reservoir,
the
pipe
that
under
runs,
the
four
chicane
bridge
were
currently
rehabilitating
that
line
and
as
I
was
discussing
before
CCTV.
This
is
an
example
of
a
pipe
that
you
would
see
where
you're
running
the
CCTV
camera
through
and
we
use
technologies
such
as
cast-in-place
piping.
J
To
this
end,
we
have
initiated
many
projects
that
have
a
clear
assessment
phase,
we're
trying
to
get
out
there
and
do
a
number
of
different
studies
that
allow
us
to
properly
pinpoint
which
projects
need
to
be
taken
in
a
more
proactive
sense,
interesting
aspect
of
Pittsburgh's
history
and
definitely
the
law
of
unintended
consequences-
is
the
beauty
of
the
steel
industry
was
the
money
that
Pittsburgh
had
received
from
it.
But
in
the
production
of
steel
there
is
a
waste
component,
that's
slag!
J
It
was
deemed
as
a
win-win
situation
when
the
slag
was
repurposed
many
many
decades
ago,
as
a
pipe
bedding
material.
What
we
didn't
realize,
when
that
choice
is
made
back
in
the
day
is
there
is
a
corrosive
environment
that
is
created
by
that
slag,
and
so
the
I
don't
know
how
many
had
known,
but
both
the
land
for
rising
main
as
well
as
this
is
rising
main
to
these
are
greater
than
softball
sized
holes,
the
slag
that
was
used
as
bedding
result
in
holes
and
pipes.
This
is
a
30
year
old,
pipe
only
cast-iron.
J
That
would
avoid
the
capacity
issues
that
can
be
exhibited
within
combined
sewers.
When
you
have
an
extremely
high
rain
flow,
there
is
the
potential
for
backup.
So
there
are
a
number
of
different
systems
that
James's
group
has
been
working
towards
green
infrastructure
as
the
overarching
subject
that
we
can
reference
them
as
that
have
helped
with
that
subjects.
J
It's
the
goal
of
our
department
to
manage
capital
program
to
deliver
assets
within
the
leased
lifecycle
cost
of
the
asset,
but
with
the
least
amount
of
risk
as
well
to
the
customers
and
to
our
infrastructure.
These
assets
include
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
you'll,
be
touring
tonight
and
water
pump
stations,
our
water
storage
facilities
and
distribution
networks
throughout
the
city
and
back
to
industry
standard.
We
are
now
employing
in
our
projects,
risk
management
ologies.
J
This
is
an
example
for
our
rising
main,
so,
basically
rising
main
to
you
were
looking
at
an
installation
date
somewhere
back
in
1858,
the
initial
starting
of
it
all
the
way
up
through
1900
and
so
there's
limited
maintenance
requirements.
Obviously,
once
the
infrastructures
in
place,
but
in
the
1960s,
the
authority
went
under
a
full
rehab
of
a
lot
of
the
major
pipelines
doing
the
cement
lining
of
the
lines.
So
you
get
another
bump
and
expenditures
over
that
life
cycle
and
then
again,
when
you're
getting
to
the
end
of
the
life
expectancy
of
that
infrastructure.
J
There's
going
to
be
that,
for
some
reason,
is
a
reduced
hump,
there's,
probably
a
much
larger
expenditure
that
would
be
acquired
to
either
thoroughly
rehabilitate
it
or
replace
it.
And
then
you
can
see,
for
there
is
a
different
life
cycle
and
life
cycle
cost
that's
associated
with
vertical
assets.
Horizontal
assets
are
what
we
term
anything.
J
Our
water
distribution
network
is
where
a
lion's
share
of
the
expense
is
going
both
by
virtue
of
the
volume
and
the
current
state
of
it.
Buried
infrastructure
is
far
easier
to
not
be
able
to
see
the
current
state
of
it,
so
it
can
get
to
a
point
where
it
needs
desperate
attention
and
there's
portions
of
our
system
where
we
are
endeavoring
to
get
those
portions
repaired
in
advance.
J
So
our
immediate
capital
improvements
we
are
currently
in
the
process
of
completing
these
projects.
Electrical
power
within
the
a
small
water
treatment
plant,
as
well
as
a
small,
rocking
pump
stations,
the
water
treatment,
plant,
pretreatment
and
clarification
improvement
project
is
underway
and
ongoing.
We
are
looking
at
clear.
Well
that
may
be
a
subject
matter
that
you
guys
will
get
into
into
your
discussions.
J
Basically,
the
infrastructure,
it's
a
very
large
storage
reservoir
that,
after
all,
the
treatment
is
held
to
allow
it
to
have
the
contact
time
for
disinfection
that
we're
looking
at
a
emergency
system.
So
we
can
continue
to
provide
water
service
while
that
gets
updated
and
a
number
of
the
other
projects
that
are
underway
and
then
kind
of
going
toward
some
of
what
the
operations
side
of
things
we
do
have
capital
projects
where
we
are
doing
operational
based
replacements,
the
catch
basin
replacement.
J
So
some
of
the
portion
of
the
work
that
is
undertaken
by
ops,
we
do
a
larger
program
that
where
it
requires
designs
for
the
replacement
of
the
catch
basins
and
contractors
to
install
them,
that's
typical
of
one
of
them.
You
can
see
right
now.
The
very
largest
single
operating
cost
for
replacements
is
the
lead
service
line
program.
It
had
been
projected
for
this
year
at
a
spend
of
16
million.
J
J
What
we're
looking
at
doing
is
acquiring
the
easement
and
putting
a
redundant
main
running
up
so
that
we
do
have
a
insurance
that
we
have
two
lines
that
we
can
rely
on
and
wouldn't
have
the
issue
that
we
had
when
the
60
inch
main
failure
had
occurred
so
and
then
just
to
give
you
kind
of
a
gauge
of
the
time
frames
that
we're
talking
for
a
project.
That's
under
a
million
dollars.
J
It's
interesting
to
see
that
that
can
be
within
a
year
to
no
more
than
two
years
to
get
it
through
the
full
planning
design
permitting
bidding
it
publicly.
Then
construction
start
up
and
closeout,
whereas
a
larger,
much
larger
project
such
as
a
mechanical
project.
We
establish
that
as
a
type
D
that
can
be
as
over
ten
million
dollars.
That
can
be
a
six
year
prospect
to
get
that
through
the
full
life
cycle.
So
it's
definitely
no
small
undertaking.
So
are
there
any
questions?
O
Were
saying
which
was
very
interesting,
how
your
job,
as
an
engineer,
sort
of
to
make
these
impactful
decisions
for
the
future
of
the
water
company
to
make
your
assets
as
longest-lasting
as
possible
on
a
cost
basis?
But
you
mentioned
in
your
history
that
a
once
innovative
idea
of
using
recycled
slag
from
the
steel
mill
actually
resulted
in
the
piping
that
you
laid
to
have
a
shorter
working
life.
So
how
does
that
affect
like
I'm?
J
So
some
of
that
goes
to
abiding
by
the
national
standards,
and
so
anything,
that's
in
interface
with
the
drinking
water
has
to
be
what's
termed
NSF
61
certified.
So
it's
a
very
rigorous
program
that
the
federal
government
has
implemented
that
allows
all
materials
to
be
absolutely
tested
for
off-gassing
and
longevity
and
unintended
consequences
that
wasn't
the
case
with
how
the
slag
was
selected
and
implemented.
You
wouldn't
ever
see
that
happen
again.
Please
Lord.
T
You
said
you're
now,
following
the
industry
standard
risk
management.
What
is
something
that
changed
that
caused
PWSA
to
start
doing?
That,
and,
like
is
that's
when
you
say
we
are
now.
Does
that
mean
within
the
past
few
years
or
the
past
ten
years
like
what's
a
time
frame
and
also
like
in
the
context
of
how
long,
even
working
at
PWSA
so.
J
J
So
we
can
choose
the
projects
where
we're
getting
the
best
bang
it's
to
ensure
that
the
water
quality,
its
water
quality
and
uninterrupted
service,
which
are
our
two
primary
keys
to
trying
to
select
projects
ensuring
that
we're
not
impeding
the
flow
of
water
and
ensuring
that
it
is
a
continuously
meeting
regulatory
limits.
Quality
water
can.
T
J
It's
as
a
lot
of
changes
with
the
new
organization
come
it's
from
a
top-down
kind
of
perspective.
It's
changes
in
the
past
several
years,
and
management
and
leadership
have
led
to
this
only
orientation
and
goal-setting
of
trying
to
ensure
that
the
money-
it's
not
unlimited,
that
were
specifically
targeting
projects
that
are
for
the
best
impact
to
water
quality
and
sustained
water,
continuous
water
flow.
So
that's
really
been
income.
It.
The
director
of
the
executive
director,
now
that's
kind
of
been
one
of
his
tenants
from
the
beginning.
U
J
C
This,
hopefully,
is
in
folklore,
but
the
way
it
was
explained
to
me
is
at
one
point
before
that
portion
of
the
city
wasn't
technically
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
so
PWSA
had
its
system
built
out,
and
that
system
was
always
separate.
In
a
part,
there
was
an
opportunity,
I
think
in
the
50s
for
the
city
to
actually
acquire
it
was
like
had
a
different
name
and
had
its
own
treatment
plant
just
like
it
did
does
now.
The
city
didn't
buy
it.
C
That's
right,
so
we
we
still
charge
you
that
alkis
and
charge
that
Kent
referenced
earlier,
that
we're
just
a
pass-through
for
so
even
if
you're,
a
Pennsylvania,
American,
Water
customer
you'll
get
the
alkis
and
charge
on
a
PWSA
bill
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
charge
for
water
or
sewer
conveyance,
rather
which,
because
we
still
own
the
sewer
distribution
system
throughout
the
entire
footprint
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
So
there
still
is
a
cost
associated
with
that.
C
U
U
J
C
V
C
N
N
The
stormwater
is
a
big
issue
here
in
the
city,
we've
already
had
a
couple
of
questions
about
it.
You've
seen
some
other
things.
We've
talked
about
the
water
and
the
sanitary
sewage
and
the
wastewater,
but
the
stormwater
is
like
sort
of
that
third
component
of
it
that
often
gets
overlooked
or
gets
lumped
in
with
those
other
things
we're
starting
now.
To
really
think
about
this.
As
an
issue
unto
itself,
we
get
about
almost
40
inches
of
rainfall
on
average
here
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
which
is
quite
a
bit
of
rain.
N
Why
is
that?
Why
is
this
system
set
up
the
way
it
is?
We
have
what's
called
a
combined
sewer
system
during
dry
weather
days.
The
combined
sewer
system
works
pretty
well
at
carrying
that
sanitary
sewage
away
from
your
homes
and
businesses.
These
brown
pipes
here
come
down
into
the
larger
mains
in
the
street.
N
Those
larger
mains
come
down
into
the
interceptors
that
run
along
the
river
and
then
that
drops
down
into
this
pipe
that
carries
it
to
our
treatment
facility,
which
is
the
Alka
Singh
facility
down
along
Woods,
run
as
I
said,
dry
weather,
it
all
works
pretty
well
now,
in
a
wet
weather
event,
rain
falls.
It
gets
captured
by
the
downspouts
and
the
street
gutters
and
in
the
catch
basins,
also
comes
down
into
these
pipes
into
the
same
pipe
as
I
said.
It's
a
combined
system,
then
that
rainwater
is
now
mixed
with
sanitary
sewage.
N
So
it's
no
longer
rainwater.
It's
all
sewage
kind
of
the
same
thing
as
if
you
were
a
winemaker
and
if
you
have
a
barrel
of
wine
that
goes
bad.
You've
got
a
barrel
of
vinegar.
If
you
take
one
drop
of
that
vinegar
out
and
put
it
in
a
good
barrel
of
wine,
you
now
have
two
barrels
of
vinegar
right,
because
once
it's
contaminated,
it's
contaminated
same
thing
with
this
clean,
relatively
clean
stormwater
gets
into
this
pipe,
and
now
it's
overflows,
this
other
pipe
and
this
treatment
plant
downstream
can't
take
any
more
of
it.
N
It's
too
much
water
for
the
system
to
handle.
They
can't
process
it
quickly
enough.
So
where
does
it
go?
It
jumps
over
this
little
Weir,
that's
inside
that
main
pipe
and
then
out
falls
to
an
open
pipe
out
into
our
rivers.
So
anytime
we
get
more
than
like
even
a
tenth
of
an
inch
of
rain.
In
some
parts
of
the
city
we're
discharging
sanitary
sewage
into
our
rivers,
where
we
boat
water-ski,
jetski
kayak
playing
the
water
with
our
kids
and
families
and
dogs.
N
So
it's
something
that
we're
definitely,
you
know,
have
serious
problems
with
we've
cleaned
up
our
rivers
a
lot
over
the
years,
especially
with
you
know
the
industrial
waste,
but
the
stormwater
is
still
a
big
problem
for
us
and
that's
why
we're
under
EPA
and
DEP
orders
to
get
this
corrected
over
the
next
couple
of
decades,
because
it's
going
to
take
that
to
do
it.
The
problem
as
I
said
it's
a
stormwater
management
issue.
N
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
change
that
and
come
up
with
a
way
to
address
all
of
these
problems.
These
are
just
symptoms
of
a
single
as
a
problem,
which
is
that
stormwater
management,
one
of
the
ways
to
do
that
is
we
could
build
big
giant
pipes
and
bury
them
underground
and
just
hold
that
water
until
it's
time
to
you
know,
pump
it
slowly
back
to
the
treatment
plant
after
it
stops
raining
or
we
can
do
a
decentralized
process
which
is
often
referred
to
as
green
infrastructure
and
manage
that
stormwater.
N
Where
it
falls,
it's
gonna
fall
from
the
sky.
We
can't
stop
that,
but
rather
than
put
it
in
a
pipe,
carry
it
down
the
road
put
it
in
a
bigger
pipe.
Carry
it
down
to
the
next
street,
put
it
in
an
even
bigger
pipe
and
create
this
problem
of
volume
and
velocity
by
combining
all
these
pipes
together,
and
then
we
have
to
deal
with
it
at
the
bottom
of
the
pipe
when
it's
got
a
lot
of
energy
and
a
lot
of
power
behind
it.
N
N
We
assembled
about
150
people
into
a
room
for
three
syrettes
and
invited
experts
from
across
the
country
to
talk
to
us
and
help
us
figure
out
a
plan
to
move
Pittsburgh
in
a
greener,
progressive
way
to
deal
with
the
stormwater
and
that's
how
we
came
up
with
this
greening
the
wet
weather
planning
for
the
city.
Our
green
infrastructure
program
at
PWSA
is
focused
on
water
quality
and
improvements
to
the
system.
N
We
assess
the
entire
city,
looking
at
things
like
topography
and
land
use
and
impervious
surface
and
where
the
storm
drains
are
where
we
water
falls,
where
it
runs
downhill
and
where
it
goes
into
the
drains
and
gets
into
our
system
into
those
catch
basins.
And
then
we
started
thinking.
How
do
we
coordinate
with
the
other
agencies
because
everybody's
doing
a
lot
of
work,
the
URA
is
doing
work.
The
Housing
Authority
is
doing
work,
parking
authority
owns
property.
N
All
these
sorts
of
different
agencies
in
the
city,
nonprofits
and
private
companies
are
building
there's
a
lot
of
development
going
on
in
our
city.
So
we
looked
at
this
as
well.
We
don't
just
have
a
stormwater
problem.
We
have
an
urban
planning
problem.
We
need
to
change
our
way
and
our
thoughts
around
urban
planning
to
include
the
stormwater
management
from
the
beginning,
because
we
see
there's
a
lot
of
development
occurring
and
oftentimes.
N
It's
not
until
the
very
end
of
that
project
that
they
go
oh
yeah
and
by
the
way
where's
my
water
gonna
go
where's
that
nearest
pipe.
That
I
can
put
it
in
and
take
it
away.
I
want
to
get
this
water
away
from
my
property
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
I
don't
have
to
deal
with
it.
Well,
as
we
found
out
with
trash
and
recycling
and
garbage
you
know
2530
years
ago,
when
we
started
thinking
about
that
seriously.
N
When
you
throw
something
away,
it
doesn't
go
away,
it
goes
to
somewhere
else,
and
somebody
else
has
to
deal
with
that
problem
and
it
becomes
an
issue
there
same
thing
with
the
water
doesn't
go
away
downstream.
Communities
like
Millville
and
Etna,
and
all
these
riverfront
communities
or
the
people
that
live
in
Saline,
Street
and
four
mile
run,
and
some
of
the
other
lower
lying
areas
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
I'll
deal
with
that
storm
water
that
falls
on
the
top
of
the
hills.
The
people
were
trying
to
take
away
from
their
properties.
N
So,
as
I
said,
thoughts
are
now.
How
do
we
cut?
How
do
we
keep
that
water
on
the
parcel
where
it
falls
and
deal
with
it
and
treat
it
as
an
asset
rather
than
a
liability?
Look
at
it
as
like
something
that's
part
of
the
design,
part
of
the
urban
fabric
that
we're
constructing
things.
Like
permeable
pavement,
this
picture
here
you
can
see
just
like
it's
raining
outside
right
now.
The
permeable
side
is
more
like
a
sponge.
The
water
soaks
through
the
non-permeable
side
here
is
very,
you
know,
ponding
and
creates
a
lot
of
reflection.
N
You
can
see
the
water
just
laying
there
it's
going
to
sheet
off
and
find
a
catch
basin
out
there
in
the
street
somewhere.
This
area
is
going
to
infiltrate
back
into
the
groundwater
bioswales
things
like
this
along
sidewalks
and
street
ways
to
collect
the
water
infiltrate
it.
The
plants,
take
up
the
water
and
draw
it
out
after
the
rains,
rain
gardens
on
private
property
and
in
large
parcel
Lots
or
another
option,
bigger
things
like
rooftop
gardens
and
green
roofs
cisterns
using
shade
trees.
Trees
are
great
stormwater
tools
for
us.
N
They
take
up
a
lot
of
water.
Mature
trees
can
take
up
a
lot
of
water
and
evapotranspiration
to
the
atmosphere,
reuse
of
storm
water
for
irrigation,
those
sorts
of
things
creating
constructed
wetlands
along
areas
that
want
to
be
wet.
People
talk
about
the
like.
Well
Pittsburgh,
you
know:
how
can
you
do
green
infrastructure?
N
We
know
what
parcels
to
focus
on
and
where
we
need
to
do
our
work
to
get
the
most
impact,
we'll
look
at
those
ones
in
the
low-lying
areas
that
are
wet
all
the
time,
places
where
people
probably
can't
or
shouldn't
be
building
anyone
so
create
things
like
these
constructed
wetlands
over
here.
That
then,
have
you
know,
walking
paths
and
nature
trails
and
create
these
more
ecological
features
that
are
benefits
and
assets
to
the
community
and
creating
greenways
and
connectivity
through
our
parks
and
back
to
our
riverfronts
trees
planter
boxes.
N
Anything
you
can
do
to
keep
any
you
know.
Every
drop
counts
hold
that
water
back
during
the
storm
event,
even
if
it
has
to
overflow
after
the
event
and
drain
back
into
the
sewers
later.
That
helps
us,
because
it's
the
immediate
peak
event
when
that
rain
first
falls
that
causes
those
overflows,
because
the
system
takes
all
that
water
in
at
once,
and
it
can't
go
anywhere
because
the
plant
down
at
alkis
and
isn't
big
enough
to
handle
it
next.
Some
other
examples
here.
N
N
You
know
out
there,
but
it
fills
up
during
the
rainstorm
and
then
drains
back
down
as
it
infiltrates
post,
storm
events
same
thing
with
this
place
here,
and
these
become
neighborhood
amenities
during
dry
weather
that
people
can
enjoy,
and
you
know,
have
events
in
and
become.
You
know
things
that
will
help
raise
property
values
around
these
areas
as
well.
Next,
so
some
of
the
things
that
I've
talked
about,
you
know
it
decreases
the
amount
of
combined
sewer
overflows.
It
does
help
improve
water
quality
because
we're
adding
plants
and
other
things
into
the
landscape.
N
It
stimulates
economic
development.
People
want
to
live
near
green
spaces,
they
want
to
work
and
and
be
around
green
spaces
and
where
the
water
is
clean
and
clear.
So
it
does
help
raise
property
values.
It
stimulates
people
to
bring
business
into
these
areas
and
there's
opportunities
for
jobs
and
workforce
development,
because
we've
got
these
things
that
they
need.
A
lot
of.
N
So
as
we
move
into
this
sort
of
bigger
picture,
system-wide
thinking
of
utilizing
storm
water
as
an
asset
and
making
it
part
of
our
urban
fabric,
you
know
we're
gonna
change
the
way
the
city
looks
hopefully
and
make
it
a
better
place
that
more
people
as
they
move
in
are
gonna
want
to
see
these
things,
something.
You
know
the
example
here.
This
is
heth's
Avenue
over
in
Highland,
Park,
Stanton,
Heights
area.
The
zoo
is
kind
of
like
in
this
area.
Here
this
is,
you
know
the
neighborhood
up
in
Stanton,
Heights
and
Hef's.
N
Actually
this
used
to
be
a
stream
at
one
time
way
back
when,
but
when
all
these
houses
and
the
development
was
done,
it
was
put
into
a
big
pipe
underground
and
then,
when
it
rains
all
the
runoff
from
all
these
roofs,
you
can
see
how
dense
the
neighborhood
is
that
rain
rains
got
to
go
somewhere.
It
goes
into
the
pipes
and
then
flows
down
into
a
pipe.
That's
underneath
the
the
the
valley
here
and
then
eventually
out
to
the
river.
N
If
it's
one
of
those
CSO
event
days,
what
we
want
to
do
is
re-envision
sort
of
the
streetscape
as
a
conveyance
for
stormwater
bring
the
stormwater
back
to
the
surface
through
cascading
rain,
gardens
that
flow
from
one
to
the
next
down.
You
know
a
green
path
lined
with
trees
into
you,
know
a
large
field
with
subsurface
storage.
You
know
like
these
are
not
just
plants
above-ground,
you'll
see.
N
It
runs
downhill
gravity
takes
it
down
to
the
river
and
then
now
we've
also
got
these
folks
that
live
up
in
this
neighborhood
I've
got
a
nice
green
way
that
they
can
ride
their
bikes
with
the
kids
all
the
way
down
through
the
trail
that
follows
the
stream
down
to
the
river
guide.
Next,
another
sight
is
the
for
mount
run,
site
Junction
hollow
below
Panther,
Hollow
Lake.
N
One
of
the
areas
I
mentioned
was
that
Saline
Street
in
the
valley
down
here
there's
lots
of
flooding
that
occurs
in
this
area
every
time
it
rains
because
all
the
rain
from
Squirrel,
Hill,
Greenfield
and
Oakland
and
North
Oakland
comes
down
into
this
direction
and
ends
up
in
a
singular
pipe
system.
That's
at
the
bottom
here.
What
we
want
to
do
is
try
and
offload
some
of
these
neighborhoods
storm
runoff
into
the
park
and
into
the
natural
stream
channels
that
actually
existed
in
the
park
today.
N
They're
underutilized,
they're,
degraded
and
if
we
can
improve
them
utilize,
this
lake,
as
sort
of
a
reservoir,
hold
back
some
water
during
a
rainstorm
and
have
integrated
valving
that
has
real-time
controls
that
will
look
at
NOAA,
weather
radar
and
say:
hey,
there's
a
storm
coming,
let's
block
up
this
out
fall
on
the
lake.
Let
the
lake
fill
up
after
the
storm
passes.
Let
the
lake
drain
back
down
through
a
series
of
constructed
wetlands
that
will
clean
and
purify
that
water
and
eventually
exiting
it
back
down
to
the
river
here
at
the
bottom.
N
More
of
what
that
looks
like
here,
you
can
see
some
examples
of
what
the
flooding
looks
like,
and
this
is
not.
You
know.
This
is
not
like
crazy
rain.
This
is
just
a
significant
summer
rainfall.
It
happens
at
least
three
four
times
a
year
down
there
and
at
Junction
hollow
where
all
these
pipes,
you
see
these
red
lines.
These
are
the
main
pipes
that
dry.
It
pull
that
water
down
that
manhole.
N
So
this
was
from
somebody's
front
porch,
not
a
good
thing
to
have
right
out
your
front
door
to
do
this.
I
mentioned
the
constructed
wetlands.
It's
basically
set
up
so
that
it
helps
purify
and
clean
the
water
that
water
quality
that
Barry
talked
about.
You
know:
I'm
sort
of
a
I
have
a
degree
in
sustainable
systems.
I'm
like
a
systems
thinker,
I,
look
at
big
picture
stuff
and
try
to
see
how
they're
all
interconnected.
So,
for
me,
this
idea
of
water-
or
you
know
the
one
water
thing
is-
is
pretty
much
the
ultimate
system.
N
We've
got
right,
it's
all
coming
back.
We
clean
water,
put
it
back
into
the
river,
it
goes
into
the
river.
It
goes
downstream.
Somebody
else
pulls
out
that
water.
They
don't
have
to
clean
it
as
much
to
turn
it
into
their
drinking
water,
because
every
place
we
discharged
somebody
downstream
is
going
to
pick
it
up.
N
Everybody
that
discharges
upstream
from
us
up
here,
Cheswick
New,
Kensington,
everybody
Natrona
Heights-
in
up
the
Allegheny,
whatever
they
discharged
from
their
treatment
plants,
that
their
sewage
comes
down,
that
Allegheny
River,
and
then
we
have
to
deal
with
any
of
those
things.
So,
like
you
said,
you
know
chemical
spills
or
pollutants
and
contaminants
we
need
to
be
wary
of
so
the
fewer
we're
putting
back
in
the
less
the
next
person
downstream
has
to
worry
about
next.
N
This
is
another
project,
that's
actually
in
construction
right
now
and
I.
Don't
think
those
photos
aren't
from
this
one,
but
it's
a
similar
type
structure
where
we
took
an
empty
lot.
It
was
a
vacant
lot
that
was
overgrown
in
a
neighborhood
up
in
Garfield
neighborhood
that
nobody
was
using
had
a
bunch
of
junk
tires
and
things
thrown
into
it
and
garbage
and
people
were,
you
know,
just
sort
of
ignoring
it.
But
this
lot
was
in
a
great
location
for
us.
N
It
was
in
a
bit
of
a
valley
and
a
perfect
place
for
us
to
do
stormwater
management
where
we
could
get
the
stormwater
from
all
the
streets
around
it
and
then
neighborhood
and
off
the
rooftops
directed
into
here
and
then
it'll
get
fill
up
during
those
rainstorms
like
I,
said
and
then
dry
weather
days.
It's
gonna
be
a
nice
naturalized
Park
area
for
the
neighborhood
to
utilize.
N
This
is
a
Melwood
street
project.
This
is
a
curb
and
sidewalk
improvement
to
take
water
off
the
street
and
put
it
into
some
of
these
channels
and
Runnels
along
Melwood
to
eliminate
some
basement
backups
and
flooding
on
homes
in
Polish
Hill-
and
this
is
a
shady
side
project-
again
lots
of
reports
of
basement
backups
and
flooding
in
some
of
these
neighborhoods
here.
N
But
if
we
can
expand
our
capacity
and
hold
this
water
in
the
streets
in
these
tree
boxes,
utilizing
the
trees
to
uptake
the
water
when
it's
when
it's
needed
and
then
hold
it
back
from
the
sewer
system
before
it
goes
into
the
pipe.
It
goes
into
these
types
of
curb,
bump,
outs
and
swales,
and
then
it
won't
end
up
in
their
basements
and
sawmill
run
is
a
large-scale
project
with
us
and
twelve
other
municipalities.
N
Looking
at
you
know,
chemical
discharges
and
pollutant
loading
and
improving
that
entire
stream
to
create
a
nice
Greenway
that
you
know
the
businesses
along
there
won't
have
to
worry
about
continuous
flooding
along
there
as
well
and
next
right
out
in
front
of
us.
Maybe
you
saw
it
when
you
came
in.
We
have
this
sort
of
traffic
island,
that's
in
the
middle.
It
used
to
be
mounded
up
with
flowers
planted
on
it
every
year
and
wasn't
really
serving
much
purpose
other
than
that,
so
we
thought
well.
We've
got
a
lot
of
parking
area
around
it.
N
N
It's
a
40-hour
training
that
is
sort
of
like
the
LEED
certification
kind
of
training
that
some
people
might
be
familiar
with
for
building
construction.
This
is
the
same
kind
of
thing,
so
we
can
look
for
certified
professionals
in
this
green
infrastructure
stuff
as
we
open
contracts
and
look
for
you
know
employees,
so
that
was
pretty
much
it
happy
to
answer.
Questions
on
the
stormwater
stuff
I
saw
one
over
here.
Hi.
Q
Good
evening,
two
quick
questions,
one:
what
drives
where
green
infrastructure
projects
are
implemented,
is
that
community
engagement
and
support
or
demand,
or
how
do
you
do
that
and
secondly,
as
you
talked
about
the
four
mile
run
project
I'm
wondering
if
any
consideration
has
been
given
to
prospect
drive
within
Schenley
Park,
it's
a
dead-end
street,
it's
impermeable.
Currently,
it's
large.
It
sat
on
top
of
a
hill
as
far
as
implementing
some
of
those
green
infrastructure
projects.
You're
talking
about
yeah.
N
So
how
do
we
decide
where
the
green
infrastructure
goes?
Was
the
first
question
our
process?
As
I
said,
we
did
a
very
intensive
process
of
looking
at
the
topography
of
the
city
and
where
our
pipes
are
where
our
catch
basins
are
and
assess
pretty
much
every
micro
shed
of
area
that
flows
to
a
particular
catch
basin.
N
We
know
have
a
very
good
idea
from
our
models,
at
least
how
much
water
is
getting
into
our
system
at
any
one
of
those
given
points,
I
think
Barry
mentioned
we
have
like
25,000
catch
basins
across
the
city,
so
for
a
large
portion
of
those.
We
have
a
good
idea
of
what's
getting
in
at
that
point,
so
we
know
then,
we've
prioritized
those
which
ones
are
taking
on
the
most
water
which
ones
are.
You
know
our
most
egregious
offenders.
Where
are
we
dumping
the
most
water
into
the
river?
N
What
sewer
shed
is
that
each
of
these
pipes
that
exits
to
the
river
or
goes
into
the
alkis
annex
interceptor
as
part
of
a
sewer
shed
or
a
water
shed,
if
you
will-
and
some
of
them
are
have
more
capacity
than
others,
some
of
them
dump
more
in
not
so
we
look
at
that
as
another
priority
level.
We
also
have
in
that
matrix
is
their
development
pressures
going
on
either
positive
or
negative
pressures,
maybe
nothing's
going
on
in
that
neighborhood
and
it
needs
some
attention.
N
Maybe
we
can
do
a
project
and
stimulate
development,
or
maybe
it's
a
highly
developed
neighborhood
that
has
so
much
going
on
that
if
we
don't
get
in
there
now
and
help
these
developers
out
with
these
green
infrastructure
projects,
we're
going
to
lose
opportunities.
So
those
are
considerations.
Other
things
are
Community
Engagement
community.
N
It's
you
know
it's
DPW,
it's
the
DEP,
it's
the
Health
Department,
it's
the
local
neighborhood
groups,
it's
the
neighboring
parcels
and
property
owners,
and
it's
the
businesses
and
everybody
has
to
be
sort
of
bought
in.
So
those
community
group
groups
are
very
important
to
that
too,
and
then
the
second
half
of
your
question.
Again,
sorry
Oh,
Prospect,
Drive,
yeah
I'm,
trying
to
remember
where
that
is
exactly
in
Schenley
Park,
but.
Q
N
N
Now
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
development
going
on
in
different
places,
especially
like
over
East
Liberty
in
the
Larimer
area
and
even
in
you
know
like
downtown
and
the
Strip
District
and
along
Lawrenceville,
and
these
developers
are
doing
these
great
projects,
but
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
put
their
stormwater
except
in
the
pipe
that's
already
there.
So
we're
trying
to
create
these
surface
way.
N
You
know
spines,
if
you
will
of
connectivity
back
to
the
river,
so
they
can
discharge
stormwater
into
a
more
naturalized
area
that
will
carry
that
stormwater
back
to
the
river,
where
it
belongs
so
as
far
as
Prospect
Street,
maybe
not
specifically,
but
as
we
move
up
that
spine
and
look
for
opportunities
to
discharge
and
collect
water
from
the
rest
of
that
watershed.
That'll
be
definitely
a
part
of
the
list
right
here.
W
W
G
W
N
N
N
As
far
as
like
well
Etna
stuff-
that's
that
sort
of
upstream
of
anything
we
own,
but
in
that
situation,
where
we
have
areas
of
low-lying,
you
know
vulnerability.
We
are
looking
at
okay.
What
can
we
do
there,
but
not
just
there,
because,
like
I
said,
we
want
to
deal
with
this
water
in
a
more
distributed
network
and
do
things
upstream
and
catch
that
water
before
it
gains
energy
before
it
really
starts
hammering
downhill
and
picks
up
volume
and
mass
and
power,
and
not
have
to
deal
with
it
once
it's
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill.
N
So
much
so
if
we
can
do
some
of
these
projects
like
the
one,
the
Hillcrest
project,
that's
all
the
way
up
in
Garfield.
That
is
like
probably
one
of
the
highest
points
in
in
the
city
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
right
across
the
street
from
it
is
one
of
our
water
tanks.
So
you
know
it's
got
to
be
a
high
point
in
the
city
and
that's
like
I
said
one
that
we're
doing
there,
but
it
also
impacts
people
that
live
much
further
downstream
in
that
same
area.
N
So
we're
looking
at
you
know
any
available
parcels
and
land
where
we
can
work
if
they're
upstream,
we
have
a
different
sort
of
strategy
and
tactic
that
we're
going
to
take
to
that
project.
If
it's
down
streaming
in
the
valley,
then
we're
gonna
look
at
it
from
a
larger
scale.
Conveyance
sort
of
partial
portion,
yeah.
X
X
N
Yeah
there
was,
there
were
some
last-minute
design
changes
after
after
we
had
some
survey,
work
done
and
they
came
out
and
they
painted
the
lines
and
we
found
some
of
the
you
know
they
come
out
with
you,
the
eighth
one,
one
call
for
the
utilities.
Some
of
the
utilities
were
not
where
we
thought
they
were,
which
is
often
the
case
when
this
stuff's
been
buried
for
60
80
100
years,
not
our
utilities,
but
like
gas
lines
and
electric
bolts
and
stuff
like
that.
N
X
N
S
Here
I
was
a
business.
We
had
our
Spring
Garden
I'm
in
Northside,
Spring
Garden,
a
douche
Tim.
We
are
at
a
meeting
last
night
at
this
place
called
threadbare.
It's
a
societal
house,
a
new
business
I
open
in
October,
and
they
had
the
permeable
parking
lot
with
grids
and
limestone
rock.
It
was
very
cool
and
I
can
see
that
being
a
major
plus,
because
that
would
have
been
a
pretty
good
sized
lot.
Yeah.
N
Yeah,
those
are
those
are
really
helpful.
You
know,
and
it
prevents
you
know
all
that
runoff
from
the
parking
lot
going
out
into
the
street
and
having
to
be
dealt
with
by
you
know
local
Sewer
Authority
right
and
there
are
multiple
ways
you
can
do,
that
the
the
gravels
or
you
know,
permeable,
pavers
or
there's
permeable
asphalt
like
I,
showed
you
in
the
picture
there
and
we're
experimenting
with
several
of
those
things
around
the
city
for.
S
I
Make
try
make
this
quick,
so
one
of
the
things
that
from
a
renewable
energy
standpoint
that
Google
and
other
solar
company
companies
are
doing,
is
they're
actually
using
Google,
Maps
or
Google
Earth.
To
look
at
rooftops
to
see
what
rooftops
are
good
options
to
use
solar
panels,
and
so
in
Pittsburgh.
We
have
this
really
cool
problem
that
we
have
all
of
these
houses
and
all
of
these
buildings
that
have
flat
roofs,
that,
to
your
point,
accumulate
water
and
if
they
don't
have
anything
on
top
of
the
water.
Just
gets
stomped
right
back
into
the
drain.
I
So
from
a
progressive
green
standpoint,
have
we
looked
at
actually
looking
at
the
infrastructure
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
from
a
housing
and
building
standpoint
to
see
what
type
of
incentives
we
could
offer
to
either
homeowners
or
businesses
to
create
green
roofs?
That
would
essentially
be
a
pivot
point
for
where
the
water
hits
either
the
house
or
the
building
and
prevents
it
from
even
getting
into
the
street
yeah
one.
N
Of
the
things
that
PWSA
has
had
for
a
past
couple
of
years
is
a
grant
program
it's
currently
on
on
hold.
While
we
do
some
of
this
restructuring
that
Kent
was
talking
about,
but
our
Green
grant
program
was
available
to
two
folks
who
were
doing
development
or
projects
we
would
do
like
if
it
was
I
think
it
was
a
50%
match
up
to
$50,000
I.
Think
for
the
project
to
do
green
infrastructure
on
your
prop
on
the
property
and
on
the
parcel
and
green
roofs
were
part
of
that.
N
One
of
the
other
things
we're
looking
at
on
a
larger
scale
is
there's
something
called
a
blue
roof
and
it's
a
much
simpler
idea,
but
using
smart
technologies
and
real-time
control
valves
on
downspouts
of
things
like
flat,
roofs,
assessing
the
roof
for
structural
integrity
because
we're
in
the
Northeast
all
roofs
flat.
Roofs
must
be
built
to
a
two-foot
snowfall
standard,
which
is
equivalent
to
two
inches
of
rain.
N
If
we
could
get
half
of
the
roofs
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
that
are
flat
to
hold
back
two
inches
of
rain,
while
the
storm
is
occurring
and
then
slowly
release
that
after
the
storm
has
passed,
we
could
eliminate
a
large
portion
of
these
overflows.
So
we're
working
with
a
couple
of
you
know
these
smart
tech
companies
that
have
these
real-time
control
valves
that
stick
in
the
corner
of
the
downspout
and
will
hold
back
that
water.
N
It
monitors
the
center
it's
sort
of,
like
you,
know,
cloud-based
connection
to
the
NOAA
weather
radar,
and
it
knows
when
a
storms
coming
it
knows
has
sensor
levels
knows
how
high
the
water
has
gotten
knows
when
to
shut
off
and
turn
back
on.
Part
of
the
problem,
though,
is
getting
you
know
a
building
owner
to
commit
to
something
like
that.
When
you
tell
me
you're
gonna
store,
you
know
a
couple
hundred
thousand
gallons
of
water
on
his
roof.
N
They
get
a
little
nervous,
but
you
know
it's
it's
it's
a
learning
curve
and
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
working
towards
all
right.
Well,
if
there's
nothing
else,
I'll
turn
it
back
and
let
you
guys
take
I
think
you'll
take
a
break,
but
then
you'll
do
a
tour
as
you're
touring
around
this
plant.
I
hope.
You
know
you
get
to
see
a
lot
of
the
stuff
and
sort
of
the
back
end
pieces
of
how
how
we
make
water
as
we
say,
we
don't
really
make
it.
N
L
L
What
we
like
to
do
on
these
tours
is
start
with
this
mosaic
here,
which
not
only
is
colorful.
It
is
also
a
good
frame
of
reference.
So
if
we
can,
this
is
the
Allegheny
River
here
and
it's
flowing
this
way
towards
what
would
be
downtown,
and
we
are
here
in
this
building
and
Freeport
Road
would
be
here
and
the
mall
and
28
would
be
farther,
but
that's
also
our
property,
so
just
to
take
you
through,
because
this
is
such
a
large
expansive
property
if
we
can't
get
to
all
of
it
and
some
of
its
outside.
L
It's
dark
now
it's
raining,
but
where
we
start
is
we
have
two
intakes
at
the
river
here
and
they're
quite
large
conduits
that
bring
water
in
from
the
river
and
wrap
around
the
front
of
this
initial
building.
This
is
called
Ross
pump
station
an
inside
Ross
pump
station.
We
have
five
high
service
pumps,
and
this
is
where
the
whole
process
starts.
L
These
pumps
will
do
anything
from
50
million
gallons
a
day
up
to
I
think
the
maximum
is
120
million
gallons
a
day.
This
building
here
also
stores
our
chemical
feed
area
and
any
of
the
treatment
chemicals
that
we
use
originate
here.
For
the
most
part,
the
water
continues
out
of
this
pump
station
underground
and
into
a
stilling
chamber
that
goes
through.
The
water
will
go
through
a
traveling
screen.
It's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
explain
without
seeing
it.
L
We
use,
what's
known
as
a
coagulant
and
small
particles
of
dirt
and
microbes.
What
not
these
things
will
start
to
cling
together
in
the
water?
It'll,
look
like
little
pieces
of
popcorn,
it's
called
flock
and
what
happens
with
this
flock
is
it's
denser
than
the
water.
It
will
begin
to
settle
out
and
drop
to
the
bottom
of
these
basins.
The
clean
water,
cleaner
water
will
go
over
top
of
troughs
and
continue
into
a
conduit
that
goes
underground
here
and
across
the
street
we
have
our
sedimentation
basins.
L
This
adds
a
little
bit
more
settling
time
for
this
pre
treated
water.
The
water
will
slow
down,
continue
to
settle
out
and,
as
it
passes
through
the
structure,
it
will
come
back
underground
once
again,
keep
in
mind.
This
is
where
we
are.
It
will
come
back
to
the
head
of
our
filter,
building
this
building
houses,
18
filters
9
on
each
side,
and
these
are
mixed-media
rapid
sand
filters,
they're
kind
of
and
we'll
look
at
them
too,
and
just
have
a
huge
rehab
project
with
this
about
a
3-year
project.
L
L
This
is
we
had
talked
about
a
capital
improvement
project.
This
this
structure
is
all
underground
and
I
believe
it
was
put
in
service
around
1895,
it's
very
old,
but
it
houses.
This
is
where
the
last
pH
adjustment
is-
and
we
add
disinfectant
here
and
the
clear
well
has
about
an
8
hour
time
span
from
the
front
to
the
end.
This
is
where
the
water
gets
into
our
distribution
system.
It
will
go
under
the
river
to
our
back
and
pump
station
and
from
there
it
makes
its
travels
into
the
city
and
to
your
tap.
L
L
These
are
the
bases
I
was
describing
where
we
settle
the
flock
out
of
the
water,
so
the
the
dirtier
water
goes
to
the
bottom,
and
the
cleaner
water
goes
to
the
top
and
goes
over
these
troughs
towards
this
Center
flume,
and
this
is
where
it
goes
underground
to
our
other
basins
across
the
street.
If
you
guys
want
to
get
a
quick
look,
this
is
what
they
look
like
when
they're
empty
this
one's
down
for
repair.
I
L
L
V
G
L
L
So
this
is
the
control
center
here.
This
is
the
operating
center,
where
our
operators
sit
and
from
this
system
here
they
can
see
pumps,
tanks,
reservoirs
everything
in
the
city
something's
low.
They
turn
a
pump
on
somewhere
fill
it
vice
versa.
If
it's
too
high,
they
can
see
station
pressures,
suction
pressures
discharge
and
also
they
can
see
all
the
the
plant
operations
here.
L
The
treatment
points,
disinfection
pH
things
like
that,
and
the
flows
how
much
water
we're
bringing
in
how
much
water
is
going
to
distribution
so
referencing,
the
mosaic
downstairs,
so
we've
gone
from
in
take
the
initial
clarification
basins
across
the
street.
Now
we're
coming
back
the
walkway
on
the
other
side
of
this
is
where
our
filters
start
and
again
we
had
a
big
rehab
project,
so
they
are
somewhat
presentable
these
days.
So
we
can.
We
can
wrap
around
and
walk
out
there.
L
We
add
downstairs,
we
we
add
sodium
hypochlorite
at
the
beginning
and
at
the
end,
for
our
disinfection
and
beyond
this
building,
the
water
goes
through
a
96
inch
structure
underground
into
our
clear
well
and
that's
the
last
stop
before
it
goes
to
distribution.
So
that's
about
it.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
the
top,
the
top
layers
anthracite
coal.
G
G
L
Don't
know
what
the
correct
expectancy
is
on
that,
but
the
last
beds
that
we
had
20
years
or
so
it
it
lasts
a
while
we
periodically
every
hundred
hours
filter
needs
to
be
washed
where
we
force
air
through
the
bottom
of
it
and
it
will
separate
any
material
from
the
anthracite
and
then
once
that
suspended.
We
stop
the
air
and
forcible
clean
drinking
water
back
up
through
it'll
spill
over
those
troughs
and
down
into
a
drain,
it's
collected
and
then
redistributed
to
the
head
of
the
plant
where
we
treat
it
again.