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A
Thank
you
very
much.
As
mentioned
this
is
the
beginning
of
city
council's
budget
hearing
process.
Today
we
will
have
an
overview
and
poly
discussion
of
the
20
of
the
proposed
2021
budget
given
by
our
budget
office,
and
so
with
that
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
mr
bill
urbanic,
as
well
as
michael
sterlitz,.
C
C
Okay,
welcome
to
the
2021
budget
proposal
overview
and
policy
discussion.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I'm
joined
here,
of
course,
with
mike
strelik,
who
financier
has
welcomed
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
2021
peduto
budget
proposal
that
includes
570
million
dollars
in
revenue
563.7
millions
in
in
expenditure,
three
billion
dollar
five-year
plan,
which
is
down
244
million
dollars
from
our
last
five-year
plan.
C
C
The
increases
that
we
had
due
to
arbitration
with
police
fire
and
other
ems
contracts
are
included
in
this
budget.
There's
also
a
salary
freeze
for
all
non-union
employees
benefits.
Implementation
of
other
contracts
are
also
included
in
here.
The
city's
statutory
obligations
portion
of
pension
will
be
104.3
million
dollars
and
debt
service
57
million
dollars.
That's
money
that
we
we
can't
really
spend,
but
it's
many
money,
that's
statutorily
obligated
by
us.
C
Through
this
coveted
crisis,
this
proposal
enables
us
to
have
a
balanced
budget,
so
we
can
legally
begin
to
pay
bills
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
it
assumes
the
city
shall
receive
it's
hoping
that
the
city
shall
receive
federal
and
or
state
dollars
for
that
revenue
loss
we
have
sustained
or
we
would
need
to
drastically
cut
beginning
july,
1st
our
expenditures,
as
I
mentioned,
debt
service
and
pension
or
contractual
obligations
that
must
be
paid
and
take
priority
over
everything,
including
payroll
and
other
budgetary
items.
C
The
portion
of
paygo
is
7.5
million
dollars,
that's
being
dedicated
from
the
general
fund
and
we're
looking
at
taking
out
a
55
million
dollar
bond
for
the
capital
budget,
that'd
be
60
2
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
capital.
C
C
C
C
What
we're
looking
at
here
is
the
the
revenue
which
is
down,
of
course,
38
million
dollars
from
the
2020
budget,
and
it's
actually
38
million
dollars
greater
than
the
estimated
actuals
that
that
revenue
in
real
estate
tax
takes
up
a
little
bit
as
far
as
a
percentage
goes,
and
it
takes
down
a
little
bit
with
earned
income
tax
as
well.
You
see
a
little
increase
in
intergovernmental
rate
revenues,
but
basically
the
real
estate
revenue
is
our
stable
revenue.
C
It's
what
we
anticipate
coming
in
it's
down
a
little
bit
in
projections,
but
from
a
percentage
basis
very
low.
The
wage
based
taxes
that
would
be
earned,
income
tax
and
the
payroll
tax
are
in
flux.
Right
now
and
of
course,
we
know
parking,
amusement
tax
and
the
other
entertainment
type
taxes
that
are
dependent
upon
entertainment
have
been
decimated.
C
Hopefully
some
of
these
things
will
come
back.
We're
not
sure,
though,
depending
upon
covid
there's
no
telling
how
they
may
or
may
not
perform
or
in
new
uncharted
territory
right
now,
the
revenue
loss
for
2021
and
2020
according
to
the
five
year
plan,
and
as
I
mentioned
here,
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
by
revenue
line
what
those
losses.
Look
like
real
estate
tax
will
be
down
three
million
dollars,
but
once
again
it's
a
150
million
dollar
line.
C
So
that's
not
a
lot
of
money
from
a
percentage
standpoint
earned
income
tax
is
one,
of
course,
based
on
wages,
so
people
become
unemployed.
Businesses
close,
we
don't
get
as
much
money.
You
know
one
of
the
saving
graces
on
that
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
larger
businesses
on
the
financial
sector
and
others
being
a
larger
city.
So
we
do
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
were
able
to
continue
to
work
the
payroll
tax
also
down
once
again,
based
on
salaries
of
for-profit
organizations.
C
C
I'm
showing
you
the
expenditures,
real
quick.
Once
again,
these
will
change.
I'm
going
to
repeat
again:
two-step
reduction.
Six
months
maintains
current
bare
bones
with
note:
a
few
layoffs
but
elimination
of
positions.
That
second
six
months
is
the
huge
cuts
that
exceed
an
additional
26
million
dollars
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
public
safety
makes
up
31
general
government.
That's
what
we
do.
That's
what
finance
that's
every
other
department
and,
of
course,
we
saw
we
separate
out
the
public
works
functions
between
dpw
and
and
dhoni.
C
There's
debt
can't
change
that
pensioning,
really
can't
change
that
some
of
these
benefits
will
change
depending
upon
active
employees
that
will
be
laid
off
or
positions
eliminate
issues.
You
can
see
a
little
reduction
there,
but
here's
where
we're
going
to
have
to
take
that
money
from
and
I'll
sort
of,
reinforce
that
on
this
next
slide,
because
it's
people
cost
majority
of
what
we
do
in
government
is
based
on
what
people
do.
C
So
when
you
need
to
save
huge
amounts
of
money,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
avoid
eliminating
positions
and
eliminating
employees
and
active
employees
as
well
from
the
budget.
C
The
2021
expenditure
reductions
once
again,
I
have
it
in
blue,
you
could
invert
it
either
way,
but
basically
operating
departments
reduced
by
34
million
pension,
very
little
change,
health
care,
2.2
million
dollars.
That's
on
the
assumption
that
positions
are
eliminated.
Debt
service
has
gone
up.
The
different
debt
choices
we've
made
over
the
last
three
four
years
now
have
have
been
applied
to
a
debt
service,
and
that
has
an
additional
13
million
dollars
that
we
have
to
pay.
C
So
the
total
expenditure
reduction
on
this
2021,
based
on
the
the
estimated
budget,
is
33
million
dollars
and
that's
a
four
percent
reduction
overall.
It
would
be
an
8.4
reduction
from
that
forecast
that
50
million
dollars
that
I
showed
you
previously.
C
It's
calling
for
across
the
board
elimination
of
those
vacant
positions
and
also
by
attrition
and
that's
where
we're
at
right
now
with
those
expenditures
now
that
second
six
month
budget,
all
departments
will
share
in
this
pain.
Every
single
department
shares
in
that
pain
in
2021,
except
the
course
for
the
tiny
office
of
community
health
and
safety,
which
is
brand
new,
and
I
think
it's
just
a
little
bit
of
money
being
dedicated
over
there,
twenty
thousand
dollars.
C
You
also
will
see
that
the
department
of
bureau
of
medical
services
actually
looks
like
it
goes
up,
but
that's
due
to
a
change
in
medicare
billing
by
the
state.
If
not
for
that
extra
1.36
million
dollars
going
into
in
ems,
it
would
show
a
one
million
dollar
or
four
percent
decrease
I'd
like
to
get
into
the
details
of
all
these
budget
cuts
as
we
go
through
our
departmental
groups.
C
I
think
that's
most
important
so
once
again,
here's
that
six
month
budget,
if
there
is
an
influx
in
revenue
in
the
city
general
fund,
there
will
be
a
there,
isn't
an
influx
of
being
need
to
furlough
hundreds
of
employees
throughout
the
city
service
cuts
in
all
areas
such
as
public
safety
may
prove
to
be
untenable
as
well
as
risky.
C
C
So
doom
and
gloom
with
that,
I'd
like
to
hand
this
off
to
a
little
brighter
forecast
and
let's
talk
about
the
capital
budget
with
mike
sterling.
D
Yeah,
so
the
2021
capital
budget
actually
has
more
money
in
it
than
last
year,
which
is
welcome
news.
We
do
have
a
little
bit
less
in
pay.
Go
right.
We
went
through
our
fund
balance,
so
we
have
less
money
in
the
bank
to
transfer
to
capital
budget
we're
making
up
for
that
with
additional
borrowing
this
year,
which
is
certainly
reasonable.
Now,
because
we,
like,
I
said,
have
less
pay
go,
but
I
would
caution
against
doing
that
going
forward,
but
still
we're
124
million
dollars
in
capital
spending
this
year.
D
If
bill
can
go
to
the
next
slide
that
that's
quite
a
bit
when
I
first
started
here,
capital
budgets
were
about
25
million.
I
remember
two
years
when
it
was
under
15
million,
so
having
62
million
dollars
of
city
money
going
on
the
capital
budget
is,
is
quite
a
bit
and
you
know
we'll
be
able
to
catch
up
on
that
deferred
maintenance.
D
Now,
I'm
sure
all
members
of
their
staffs
have
gone
through
the
capital
budget
and
have
noticed
that
a
lot
of
the
things
they
asked
for
they
didn't
get
which,
if
bill
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
We'll
do
a
little
math
and
explain
how
that
happened.
So
we
have
76
million
dollars
between
bond
and
paygo
and
sort
of
the
flexible
cdbg,
but
a
lot
of
that
money
is
already
spoken
for
so
the
off
the
top
projects
like
council,
cdbg
and
akbo
is
fully
funded
this
year,
just
like
it
was
last
year.
D
Those
are
all
great
projects,
but
that
leads
to
less
money
in
this
budget.
The
ongoing
project.
So
in
prior
years,
when
we'd
want
to
do
a
park,
we'd
set
aside
six
million
dollars
and
it
would
take
us
three
or
four
years
to
spend
that
down.
We
started
accounting
for
that
better.
D
So
now
we
do
the
design
the
build
the
build
spread,
the
budget
over
three
years,
which
is
good,
but
now,
when
we're
already
started,
work
on
south
side
park
and
sheridan
park
and
arsenal
park
that
eats
up
almost
16
million
dollars
in
the
capital
budget,
so
less
money
for
this
year.
The
promise
project,
so
the
stuff
that
you
know
we
city's
been
talking
about
doing
for
years,
the
west,
rapid
transit
and
the
mon
oakland
connector
that
eats
up
a
lot
of
the
budget.
There's
only
about
19
million
dollars
left
for
whatever.
D
What
the
the
250
requests
from
departments
in
the
ura
and
100
requests
that
came
from
council
and
you
throw
17
million
dollars
at
asphalt.
That
leaves
1.5
million
dollars
competing
for
the
368
projects
that
were
requested,
which
may
explain
why
one
of
the
projects
requested
by
council
members
did
not
get
funded.
D
That's
all
I
have
in
the
capital
budget,
but
if
bill
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
also
remind
council
and
the
public
that
there's
a
lot
of
money
going
through
every
year.
That
council
does
not
authorize
annually
trust
funds.
City
calls
from
the
trust
funds,
but
other
people
may
know
them.
As
the
special
revenue
accounts
agency
funds.
D
We
have
impressed
funds,
there's
almost
100
million
dollars
there
and
68
off
book
accounts
that
council's
not
approving
by
december
31st,
and
it
does
not
include
the
parks
tax
which
is
still
on
council's
table,
but
not
implemented
and
bill
back
to
you
for
the
five-year.
C
Here
plan
go
the
proposed
five-year
plan,
as
I
mentioned,
is
244
million
dollars
less
than
the
previous
one,
and
we
have
to
pay
attention
on
this
slide
down
here
and
that
is
our
portion
of
fund
balance
over
expenditures.
Of
course,
our
expenditures
reduced
as
well
too,
so
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
providing
any
unseen
circumstances.
C
The
city
can
return
to
a
fund
10
fund
balance,
according
to
our
ordinance,
which
we're
now
amending
to
be
allowed
to
use
some
of
that
fund
balance
in
the
in
the
future
here
and
get
below
that
10
we'll
get
more
into
the
fund
balance
in
the
five-year
plan
again
at
tomorrow's
meeting
with
with
omb,
but
I
think
that's
the
the
main
takeaway
here
regarding
that
five-year
plan.
Also,
if
you
look
at
debt
service
as
a
percentage
of
expenditures,
we
wanted
to
stay
under
12
with
that.
C
We
start
hitting
that
unless
we
begin
to
increase
those
revenues.
On
that
end,
we'll
continue
to
see
us
booting
up
against
what
our
what
we
had
determined
as
a
council
with
council
of
determined,
was
best
practice.
C
So
the
five-year
plan,
once
again
the
one
that's
proposed
now,
is
predicated
on
that
july.
1St
2020
one
drastic
cuts.
If
we
get
any
revenue
it
will
need
to
be
modified.
I
threw
together
a
couple
solutions.
These
are
things
that
a
budget
director
does
they're
just
suggestions
and
things
out
there.
C
The
budget
before
council
actually
provides
for
little
additional
expenditure
reduction.
There's
not
a
lot
really
to
cut
left,
and
I
think
the
elimination,
the
vacant
positions
and
also
by
attrition
is
going
to
restrict
a
lot
of
the
managerial
flexibility
that
we
have
come
accustomed
to.
So
things
that
you
normally
would
get
done
with
a
phone
call.
Oh
yeah,
we
can
get
this
done.
We
can
get
that
done.
We
can
process
this
contract
or
that
contract.
C
It
may
take
a
little
longer
or
may
not
get
done
at
all
the
revenue
increase
that
would
be
in
the
form
of
the
heroes
act
that
could
provide
funds
directly
to
the
general
fund.
That
would
help
us.
That
would
be
one
of
the
solutions.
C
So
revenue,
as
I
said,
I'm
just
screwing
things
out
here:
local
state
and
revenue
options
could
also
be
considered
if
we
can't
depend
on
the
feds.
We
probably
will
know
that
within
the
first
quarter
of
the
year,
whether
we're
going
to
be
able
to
depend
on
the
feds
or
not
or
get
something,
a
temporary
real
estate
tax
increase
for
2021,
only
just
reminding
you
one
mill
equals
approximately
16
million
dollars.
C
We
can
ask
the
state
for
a
non-profit
payroll
tax,
something
that's
been
on
the
plate
for
for
many
years
since
2004,
since
we
passed
the
tax,
what
that
payroll
tax
would
do.
Is
it
exempt
all
the
nonprofits
with
payrolls
under
five
million
dollars,
which
essentially
gets
the
top
30
highest
paying
organizations?
C
Many
hospitals
and
insurance
companies
then
pay
the
institution
of
that
tax
could
help
solve
that
problem,
20
to
25
million
dollars
in
revenue
potential,
of
course,
once
again,
that's
something
the
state
has
to
do.
Can
we
lobby
for
it?
Can
we
ask
for
it
yeah,
but
in
lieu
of
that
one
of
the
things
we
can
do,
which
we
had
done
in
the
past
and
which
also
is
available
to
us
in
accordance
with
the
state
law,
is
a
renegotiation
of
the
nonprofit
pilot
agreement
with.
C
If
you
isolated
that
to
hospitals
and
insurance
companies
for
2021
and
2022,
we
may
be
able
to
get
some
additional
funding
to
help
us
bridge
the
gap.
If
you
add
that,
in
with
other
measures
such
as
continuing
to
pursue
the
billboard
tax
litigation,
one
to
two
million
dollars,
maybe
up
to
four
million
dollars
there,
we
have
market-based
revenue
opportunities
initiatives
that
haven't
fully
been
implemented.
It's
at
least
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
C
C
Depending
upon
how
much
you
charge,
you
would
get
between
11
to
22
million
dollars,
other
ideas,
old
ideas
that
have
gone
through
this
council
in
the
past,
a
hospital
bed
tax,
a
tuition
tax
and
something
that's
being
tried
around
the
country
right
now,
and
this
again
is
state
legislation,
and
that
would
be
for
the
state
to
legalize
marijuana
and
utilize,
the
additional
revenues
to
to
supplement
municipalities
and
school
districts
as
it
was
done
in
colorado.
C
So
the
challenge
is,
of
course
covetovico.
It's
it's
uncertainty.
We
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future.
Here
we
a
lot
of
folks
thought
that
things
would
subside
by
this
time
of
year.
Of
course,
dr
fauci
said
early
on
that
we're
gonna
have
resurgence
in
the
fall.
C
There's
some
hopeful
things,
of
course,
with
being
talked
about
nationally,
that
you
know,
vaccines
and
therapeutics
are
going
to
help
to
to
get
us
back
to
normal
a
little
sooner,
but
even
at
that,
how
are
we
gonna
come
out
on
the
other
end
we're
unsure,
so
those
revenue
is
going
to
continue
to
be
something
that
we
may
need
to
adjust
or
look
for
different
revenue
approaches
in
the
future
to
deal
with
the
the
aftermath
of
the
coveted
problem,
federal
and
state
assistance.
C
I
mean,
even
if
we
get
this
one
time,
we're
still
going
to
need
some
sort
of
support
from
the
the
feds
in
the
the
state
in
order
to
accomplish
all
the
great
initiatives
that
this
council
has
done.
C
One
of
the
bright
spots
has
been
police
reform
in
this
budget
and
that's
something
brought
about
through
the
ordinance
the
council
passed.
It's
gonna
end
up
dedicating
six
million
dollars
to
the
stop.
The
violence
fund,
trust
fund
and
a
initiative
by
council
members,
finance,
chair
level
and
councilman
burgess,
of
course,
that
other
members
have
helped
to
pass.
C
This
initiative
helps
to
deal
with
with
one
of
the
other
major
problems
of
2020
that
has
risen
to
the
surface
in
2020.
C
However,
even
with
that
there's
still
challenges
because
we'll
we
will
need
to
coordinate
assistance
and
funding
from
both
the
county
and
other
various
non-profit
agencies.
C
The
six-month
expenditure
is
based
on
the
elimination
of
those
vacant
positions
and
attrition
that
will
limit
our
managerial
flexibility,
but
will
allow
us
to
to
sign
checks.
The
second
six-month
budget,
however,
if
we
don't
receive
some
sort
of
funding,
provides
for
the
large
cuts
across
the
city,
including
public
safety
that
may
be
untenable.
C
In
order
to
resolve
the
revenue
problem,
the
city
will
have
to
have
an
influx
of
funds
between
26
million
130
million
dollars.
Federal
and
state
funds
through
something
like
the
heroes
act
would
need
to
be
passed
by
congress.
That
would
provide
that
needed
relief
course.
Council
could
also-
and
the
administration
of
course
would
need,
could
consider
other
revenue
measures
and
may
have
to
after
the
beginning
of
the
year.
C
My
hope
is
that
we'll
be
back
here
before
the
end
of
the
first
quarter,
amending
the
the
budget
with
revenue
and
hopefully
that
revenue
from
the
from
the
feds
and
state
and
and
other
entities
to
avoid
that
july.
First,
draconian
cuts
with
that
I'd
like
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
our
counterparts
in
the
office
of
management
and
budget,
kevin
paulus,
patrick
cornell,
came
to
osterman
and
everyone
else
who
shared
information
and
discussed
for
the
many
issues
confronting
us.
C
And
get
us
back
here,
so
I
guess
councilman.
I
guess
we
can
open
up
for
questions.
E
E
That's
correct.
Okay
seems
like
a
long
hard
road
for
me
and
not
real
possible.
What
about
in
the
past,
I
believe
under
the
ravenstahl
administration,
didn't
they
voluntarily
give
a
certain
amount
per
year.
C
Yes,
that's.
My
second
point
on
on
the
revenue
slide
is
that
we
have
the
ability,
through
state
law,
to
ask
for
a
non-profit
pilot
agreement
with
the
organ
in
lieu
of
taxes.
That
can
be
done
right
now.
Let's
stop
this.
C
Our
last
one
did
not
get
negotiated
because
we
didn't
feel
that
we
were
going
to
receive
enough
funding
from
them
that
got
stalled,
but
that
is
something
that
could
still
be
put
on
the
table,
and
I
just
got
a
quick
comment
on
whether
the
state
would
look
at
a
non-profit
payroll
tax.
It's
the
changing
of
just
a
couple
words,
and
it
would
also
help
all
the
other
municipalities
within
the
state
of
pennsylvania
too.
C
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
100
off
the
table,
maybe
something
that
should
be
mentioned
and
talked
about
in
harrisburg.
If
that
is
the
case,
then
of
course
it
is,
but
we
could
always
go
with
the
nonprofits
on
the
on
the
pilot
agreement.
E
C
It
was
all
the
non-profits,
so
there
there
were,
you
know
the
catholic
church
was
involved
in
it.
Other
religious
organizations
were
involved
in
fact,
was
father
language
who
headed
up
the
committee
on
the
on
the
other
end,
so
yeah
it
came
from
all
of
them.
However,
organizations
such
as
highmark
ended
up
paying
what
the
amount
would
have
been
for
their
payroll
tax,
so
they,
you
know
some
folks
looked
in
and
said:
okay,
we,
this
is
really
what
could
be
contributed
and
did
that.
C
It'd
be
20
to
25
million
dollars
and
once
again,
what
what
we
had
researched
several
years
back
was
that
in
order
to
eliminate
all
of
the
the
truly
charitable
organizations
you
know,
little
sisters
of
the
poor,
for
example,
in
order
to
eliminate
them,
would
only
be
organizations
that
had
payrolls
in
excess
of
five
million
dollars
right
makes
sense
yeah,
so
it
narrowed
it
down
to
approximately
40,
to
50
of
the
largest
non-profits
for
the
city
and
once
again,
it's
an
exemption
on
that
first,
five
million
dollars
in
payroll.
C
So
if,
if
someone
had
five
million
one
hundred
thousand
in
in
payroll,
they
would
only
be
paying
the
tax
on
that
hundred
thousand
guys.
It
was
a
fair
way
to
do
it,
but
still
you
can
see
it.
It
creates
a
substantial
sum
of
revenue
for
the
city.
E
And
dating
back,
when
was
the
last
time
what
was
the
last
year
that
they
had
voluntarily
given
I.
D
C
E
F
Thank
you,
mr
urbanic.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
highlight
it
is
really
kind
of
the
top
level.
One
of
the
things
that
I
just
want
to
say
again
is
that,
basically,
your
presentation
says
that
the
mayor's
proposal
would
have
to
be
revisited
mid-year
and.
G
C
C
Nothing
clear:
it
is
a
little
confusing
here
it
if
you
look
through
the
budget,
they're,
not
detailed,
and
that's
the
other
reason
why
you
wouldn't
open
it
up.
Departments
have
what
we
call
a
negative
expenditure
attached
to
them,
which
would
be
a
reduction
in
salaries
beginning
on
july,
the
first,
so
we
would
need
to
go
in
and
depending
upon
what
money
say,
we
get
10
million
dollars.
Well,
maybe
it's
not
that
bad!
C
You
know
it's
not
as
bad
as
as
not
having
26
million,
so
you
would
need
to
go
back
in
because
you
don't
want
to
cut
that
much
out
of
the
budget.
As
I
said,
it
puts
us
in
a
very
precurious
situation.
F
So
slow
down
for
the
viewer,
when
a
viewer
opens
up
the
pdf
for
the
budget,
the
proposed
budget.
What
are
they
to
look
for?
Let's,
let's
pick
one
like
the
police,
I
don't
know
what
page
it's
on
here.
I
don't
have
got
the
budget
up
on
my
screen.
G
F
The
end
of
everything,
I'm
sorry,
this
is
really,
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
just
since
this
is
our
kind
of
overview
and
briefing
it's
important
for
us
to
understand.
This
is
different
than
last
year's
budget
or
different
than
I've,
never
seen
a
budget.
I
think
like
this,
so
I
I
need
it
to
be
explained
to
me,
and
so
I'm
assuming
the
listeners
need
it
to
be
explained
as
well.
F
Sure,
let's
do
that,
what
page
are
you
looking
at?
You
know.
D
D
F
Well,
that
is
a
little
bit
obtuse.
There
did.
I
use
the
right
vocabulary.
Word
yeah.
Okay,
that's
a
little
confusing,
so
that
is
for
on
page
61
for
the
city
council
payroll
budget,
and
that
means
that
july
1st
there
would
be
a
workforce
reduction
of
ninety
two
thousand
eight
hundred
and
twelve
dollars.
F
D
F
F
Okay.
So
that's
interesting!
That's
a
different!
That's
a
different
thing
to
look
for
for
each
okay.
So
we
need
to
look
for
that
for
each
of
the
the
departments
and
you
you
gave
us
a
synopsis
in
your
slides,
which
was
what
they
kind
of
like.
There
was
one
slide
that
said
on
july
1st.
There
would
be
this
much
percentage
for
each
department
and
that's
helpful
too,
but
then
we
can
go
and
see
that
on
each
of
the
departments,
individual
pages
again
for
the
vm
public,
who
don't
really
have
our
presentation?
F
I
mean
we're
all
just
saying
this
for
the
first
time
and
it
will
be
attached
to
this
budget
hearing
in
legistar,
so
they
can
see
your
your
pdf
overview
that
we're
seeing
right
now.
I
have
a
couple
things
that
are,
I
think,
also
simple
and
straightforward.
F
You
mentioned
the
trust,
funds
and
impress
funds,
and
things
like
that,
and
then
you
mentioned
kind
of
right
after
that,
the
stop
the
violence
fund,
which
we
just
did
final
vote
on
today
for
those
allocations.
So
I'm
wondering
our
amendment
today
and
I
was
confused
about
and
I
wanted
to.
F
I
want
to
thank
the
the
clerk
while
I'm
here
and
the
the
the
the
sponsors
of
the
bill,
because
I
was
confused
between
last
week
and
this
week
and
I
thought
that
our
amendment
would
not
let
us
use
it
for
the
city
budget,
but
that
is
in
fact
with
the
budget.
The
amendment
that
we
voted
on
today
allows
us
to
do
so.
The
six
million
dollars
you
refer
to
we
can
use
it
places
in
the
budget.
D
Yes,
some
of
the
positions
in
the
in
that
stop
the
violence
trust
fund,
which
is
on
page
400,
something
were
transferred
from
other
departments.
Okay.
D
F
You
know
mission
related
activities
that
our
payroll,
our
payroll
activities
so,
but
we
it
looks
like
this
budget,
doesn't
yet
reflect
that
which
is
fair,
because
we
just
voted
on
it
today.
It
wasn't.
It
wasn't
voted
on
until
today,
but
that's
interesting.
So
we
can
look
for
that.
F
I
want
to
switch
topics
here.
I
I
appreciate
mr
coghill's
questions
about
the
nonprofit
lack
of
participation
right,
if
that,
like
some
14
million
or
13
million,
had
been
paid
for
the
last
five
years
right,
we
would
be
looking
at
another
like
65
under
70
million
dollars,
that
we
would
have
and
that's
unfortunate,
and
it
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
an
additional
13
million
or
more
potentially
20
million
dollars.
F
If
a
lot
of
people
has
estimated,
what
it
should
be
would
go
a
long
way
to
avoiding
the
kinds
of
workforce
reductions
we
could
be
anticipating
this
year
and
and
it's
these
services
that
these
departments
deliver
are
very
important
when
we're
talking
about
doing
equity
work,
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
work
being
done
by
city
planning.
When
we're
talking
about
reinvesting
in
neighborhoods
and
doing
neighborhood
development,
we
need
pli,
reviewers
and
inspectors
to
do
that
work.
F
So
those
reductions
will
have
a
negative
effect
on
a
potential
will
have
a
very
negative
effect
on
the
work
we're
trying
to
do
to
invest
in
pittsburghers
in
their
neighborhoods
and
so
just
to
to
finish,
I
have
a
lot
of
small
businesses
in
my
district
and
we're
very
lucky
and
we're
trying
to
do
a
lot
of
work
at
the
neighborhood
level
to
support
them.
F
Here's
my
question
that
you
probably
can't
answer
right
now,
but
I
am
interested
in
where
we
saw
reduced
revenue.
You
mentioned
mr
bannock
in
your
presentation
that
the
larger
employers
have
stayed
open
and
have
maintained,
for
example,
their
payroll
payments
right,
and
so
we
have
we're
lucky.
We
didn't
see
more
revenue,
loss
from
them
from
places
like
upmc
or
place
the
new
principal
right,
but
the
big
financial
centers
banks,
and
things
like
that.
F
And
so
can
I
get
an
analysis
here
during
budget
season
of
see
what
kinds
of
businesses
and
where
the
businesses
are,
so
that
we
can.
I
want
to
kind
of
see
if
our
right
hand
is
doing
what
our
left
is
seeing.
What
our
left
hand
is
doing
right.
Do
we
have
the
right
kinds
of
programs
to
support
small
businesses
right?
C
C
No
not
clear
make
absolute
sense,
I
think,
would
have
to
depend
on
the
finance
department
of
the
ura.
We
are
information
on
individual
taxpayers.
That's
sure,
generally.
F
Sure-
and
it
could
be
summarized-
I'm
not
asking
aggregated
I'm
not
asking
to
look
into
individual
business
names
myself,
but
our
finance
department
does
know
who
paid
and
who
didn't
pay
and
then
could
summarize
that
for
us
map
it
redact
it
whatever
they
need
to
do
so
to
give
us
to
paint
help.
Us
paint
a
picture
right.
F
F
F
F
It's
it's
a
very
big
topic
for
for
constituents
and
for
city
residents
to
say,
like
hey,
like
where's,
the
state
money
to
support
businesses
right
harrisburg
renault
is
sitting
on
a
hundred
million
dollars
that
they
haven't
moved
through
we're
looking
for
the
federal
government
also
to
support
businesses
or
we're
getting
questions
in
our
offices
about
like
people
who
are
trying
to
get
their
their
loans
of
various
kinds
from
not
just
zero
array,
but
from
state
and
the
unemployment
assistance,
and
things
like
that,
and
that
all
adds
up
to
helping
businesses
reopen
having
to
strengthen
neighborhoods
like
we.
F
A
Seeing
none
I
just
want
to
also
thank
our
budget
office
as
kevin
paulus
for
allowing
everyone
to
work
together
to
get
to
this
point.
Our
budget
hearings
will
continue
tomorrow
at
1
30
with
the
office
of
management
and
budget,
which
is
cheered
by
myself.