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A
A
B
B
Thank
you
and
for
the
record
we
are
joined
today
by
council
members,
burgess
coghill,
strasberger
and
wilson
and
other
members
may
join
us
as
we
go
along
and
we'll
we'll
make
sure
we
introduce
them,
as
we
see
them.
We'll
now
move
on
to
testimony
from
our
registered
speakers,
please
give
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
public
record.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes
to
address
counsel.
B
Please
be
reminded
that
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
speak
directly
to
council,
about
the
issues
at
hand
and
a
time
for
counsel.
To
listen,
therefore,
counsel
will
not
be
responding
to
individual
comments,
our
spur
and
I'm
going
to
say
their
name,
and
if
I
mispronounce
your
name,
I
apologize
please
correct
me
when
you
come
when
you
start
your
commenting
on
the
pronunciation,
because
I
don't
want
to
offend
anybody.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
it
correct.
John
lavacaire
levacker.
C
Should
I
start
speaking?
Yes,
please,
you
have
three
minutes.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
city
council,
hello,
viewers.
Last
year,
a
study
revealed
that
pittsburgh
has
some
of
the
worst
health
outcomes
for
our
black
citizens,
particularly
black
women
of
any
city
in
the
united
states.
The
city
of
pittsburgh
could
and
should
put
its
budget
towards
beginning
to
rectify
some
of
these
unconscionable
disparities.
C
Yet
in
this
city
we
still
spend
gargantuan
and
ever-increasing
sums
of
money
on
our
police
department
across
the
country.
People
are
awakening
to
the
sordid
history
of
police
departments
as
purveyors
of
violent
oppression
against
black
people.
This
awakening
represents
a
valuable
opportunity
to
redirect
funding
away
from
a
department
that
criminalizes
and
oppresses
black
people
and
towards
services
that
would
represent
a
start
towards
rectifying
racial
disparities,
including
affordable
housing,
education,
health
and
investment
in
black
communities.
C
C
D
D
D
D
D
B
Thank
you,
and
and
for
the
record,
I'm
sorry
that
you're
in
pain
next
speaker,
tim
stevens.
E
I
wanted
to
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
for
the
public
to
speak
to
these
important
issues,
and
I
wanted
to
thank
councilman,
burgess
and
lavelle
for
having
the
wisdom
to
introduce
what
I
think
is
very
much
needed.
Police
reform
legislation
in
our
city
and
the
text
introduction
in
bill
2020
0404,
which
clearly
states
the
historic
background
with
regard
to
bias
in
the
criminal
justice
system
that
has
existed
for
centuries,
both
locally
and
nationally.
E
We
agreed
that
this
fund
should
be
a
separate
fund
aimed
at
preventing
the
violence
and
the
criminal
activities
that
continue
to
invade
our
communities.
I
therefore
also
support
bill
2020410
version,
one
which
should
directly
support
or
request
a
city
controller
to
transfer
250
000
from
police
salaries.
E
Please
record
recruit
allowance
to
stop
the
violence
fund
within
the
2020
operating
budget.
I
even
request
that
you
look
at
how
additional
funds
might
be
pulled
out
of
the
city
budget
wherever
and
including
the
police
budget
that
might
be
better
utilized
to
protect
our
citizens
through
services
that
would
directly
impact
violence
in
a
different
perspective,
with
pittsburgh
having
been
designated
as
a
designated
racism,
a
public
health
crisis
in
our
city
and
has
identified
the
myriad
of
negative
effects.
E
Such
racism
has
had
upon
pittsburgh's
african-american
population,
including
historic
differences,
in
how
some
police
officers
have
interacted
with
our
city's
black
citizens.
I
also
call
for
passage
of
bill
2020405
1,
which
calls
for
the
pittsburgh
police
officers
to
have
the
duty
to
intervene
in
any
situation
when
civil
or
constitutional
rights
are
knowingly
being
deprived.
We
cannot
afford
in
our
city
to
have
another
case
of
a
george
floyd
or
anywhere
in
the
nation
for
that
matter.
E
The
brotherhood
that
the
prohibition
of
the
acquisition
of
military
equipment
or
weaponry,
I
personally
find
offensive
for
the
use
of
this
equipment,
the
use
they're
of
laying
the
foundation
for
dislike
of
our
police
and
in
many
cases
the
presence
of
such
equipment
contributes
to
negative
interactions
between
the
community
and
the
police
at
a
level
that
probably
wouldn't
exist.
F
Hi,
I'm
ed
neuser,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
city
of
bridges,
community
land
trust
located
at
143rd
street
and
central
lawrenceville.
F
City
of
bridges
is
a
non-profit
community
land
trust
serving
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
allegheny
county.
We
build
community
ownership
that
preserves
permanent
affordability,
empowers
individuals
and
ensures
responsible
growth
and
stewardship.
We're
here
tonight,
like
so
many
others,
to
encourage
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
to
reimagine
our
public
safety
budget,
to
fully
reimagine
public
safety,
to
look
at
an
accompanying
reallocation
of
public
safety
funds
towards
community-centered
investment.
F
1953
president
eisenhower
said
every
gun
that
has
made
every
warship
launched
every
rocket
fired
signifies,
in
the
final
sense,
a
theft
from
those
who
hunger
and
aren't
fed
from
those
who
are
cold
and
aren't
clothed.
It's
a
powerful
statement.
What,
if
we
localize
it?
What
if
we
acknowledge
the
reality
that
every
swat
vehicle
and
k-9
unit
could
be
an
after-school
program
or
an
affordable
home?
F
F
Just
a
few
years
ago,
our
organization
joined
others
activists
and
organizers
to
coalesce
around
a
simple
message:
keep
pittsburgh
home.
We
fought
for
a
housing
trust
fund,
one
that
we
were
told
would
require
a
tax
increase.
We
fought,
we
organized,
we
debated,
we
organized
more
for
10
million
dollars
less
than
10
percent
of
this
year's
police
budget.
F
G
Yeah,
can
you
hear
me?
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
this
is
yeah
carmen
brown
from
the
ninth
council
district
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
again
and
I'm
going
to
continue
to
say
that
this
stop
the
funds
that
stop
the
funds
to
stop.
The
violence
fund
should
not
be
controlled
by
ricky,
burgess
and
his
cronies,
because
that's
what's
going
to
happen
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
I
think
and
this
budget
again
the
people
should
be
involved
in
this.
G
I
don't
even
know
why
we're
having
this
kind
of
meeting,
because
you
know
it,
there
was
no
really
no
engagement.
People
are
not
knowing
about
these
meetings.
That
was
going
on
because
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
in
my
community.
They
have
no
idea
what's
going
on.
They
have
no
idea
about
these
meetings,
so
I
know
I
think
that
you
all
should
find
another
way
to
try
to
publicize.
G
So
everybody
can
be
part
of
this
discussion
and
because
that's
a
big
problem
right
now,
but
again
I
I
do
not
want
to
see
ricky
burgess,
okay
in
charge
of
anything
to
do
with
money.
G
Hopefully,
this
budgeting
is
going
to
be
overlooked
by
the
people,
not
just
by
ricky,
burgess,
again
and
his
cronies,
because
again,
a
lot
of
the
systemic
racism
in
our
community
has
to
do
with
him
has
to
do
with
the
housing
that
he
refused
to
allow
low-income
people
to
have,
because
he
makes
these
deals
with
these
developers
and
he's
been
doing
it
for
years
and
years
and
years.
But
again,
like
I
said,
is
that
you
know
ricky
burgess
again
should
not
be
handling
or
he
should
not
be
controlling
or
he
should
not.
G
It
should
not
go
into
a
non-profit
that
he
knows,
because
this
is
always
the
case.
This
is
why
we
never
get
nothing
done.
I
was
looking
at
an
article
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
going
into
this
this
fund
and
what
happened?
Nothing
happened.
We
still
had
killing.
We
still
had
police
violence.
What
that?
What
what
where's
this
money
going
at
this
is
our
tax
dollars.
And
again,
when
I
looked
at
the
the
people
who
were
involved,
who
were
overseeing
this
money,
it
was
his
people.
G
G
It
should
have
went
to
other
other
areas
of
housing,
and
that
and
and
most
of
the
time
like,
I
said
if
the
housing
that
ricky
burgess
proposed
is
not
affordable
and
is
not
affordable
for
low-income
people
and
most
of
the
people.
Don't
have
the
qualified
income
to
afford
any
of
this
stuff
so
again
the
systemic
racism
we
need
to
be
looking
at.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
our
council
person
and
what
he's
doing
okay.
So
that's
what
I
have
to
say
and
I'm
done.
H
H
H
I
am
here
to
raise
awareness
about
the
lack
of
community
engagement.
There
has
been
between
councilman
ricky
burgess
and
the
residents
of
district
9
regarding
the
city
council
resolution
passed
for
250
thousand
dollars
to
be
transferred
by
the
city
controller
from
the
pittsburgh
police
department
budget
to
the
stop
the
violence
fund.
H
It
is
a
great
concern
of
mine
that
this
resolution
has
been
passed
and
is
being
discussed,
budgetarily
without
a
clear
set
of
functions
or
agenda.
The
operations
of
the
fund
should
be
jointly
determined
by
both
city,
council
and
residents.
That
will
be
impacted
by
the
use
of
this
fund.
Additionally,
council
and
representatives,
I'm
sorry.
Additionally,
the
fund
has
no
clear
narrative,
which
leaves
room
for
a
great
amount
of
suspicion.
H
The
250
thousand
dollar
transfer
has
not
been
clearly
established
as
a
response
to
the
recent
defunding,
the
police
movement.
Instead,
the
fund's
narrative
appears
to
have
intentions
to
fund
the
stop.
The
violence
program
established
by
councilman
burgess
in
2018.,
with
that
said,
will
a
portion
of
this
250
thousand
dollars
fund
the
63,
seven
thousand
dollar
salary
of
the
stop
the
violence
fund
coordinator?
H
H
There
has
to
be
many
more
conversations
with
residents,
in
particular
in
district
9
regarding
the
function
and
clear
agenda
of
the
stop
the
violence
fund.
While
this
fund
may
appear
well-intentioned,
it
is
more
harm
than
good
without
having
resident
priorities
in
its
agenda
and
in
its
budget
allocation,
it
is
going
to
take
better
leadership
from
city
council
that
engages
more
with
residents
and
is
transparent
and
accountable
in
order
to
stop
the
violence,
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
Next
speaker,
celeste.
B
I
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
my
name
is
fernando
soriano.
I
am
a
resident.
I
In
the
neighborhood
of
friendship
and,
first
and
foremost,
I
just
wanted
to
reaffirm
kind
of
what
all
the
other
people
other
residents
of
the
city,
have
been
saying
in
the
past
few
meetings
that
I've
been
in
attendance
of
regarding
police
reform
and
budgeting.
I
I
definitely
agree
with
pretty
much
everything
that's
been
said
thus
far
in
terms
of
the
necessities
for
transparency
and
stakeholder
inclusion
when
it
comes
to
budgetary
decisions,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
the
stop
this
violence
funds
that
was
established
by
councilman
burgess
in
2018,
a
large
portion
of
this
was
stated
to
be
responsible
for
or
being
attended
by,
police
and,
given
you
know
some
of
the
testimony
that
I've
heard
from
different
people
like
dr
jesse
wozniak,
who
has
a
particular
background
in
criminal
justice
and
policing.
I
I
mean
I
know
that
dr
wozniak,
just
the
other
meeting,
was
talking
about
the
fact
that,
by
increasing
things
such
as
available,
affordable
housing,
you
then
decrease
costs
of
things
like
municipal
jails,
by
helping
to
address
the
source
of
crime
being
in
poverty
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
reaffirm
you
know
a
lot
of
the
statements
that
have
already
been
said.
I
think
that
thus
far,
there's
been
pretty
much
a
unanimous
consensus
on
what
the
people
here
want,
and
I
wanted
to
reinforce
and
affirm
what
those
are.
B
You
thank
you
for
your
comments.
Next
speaker,
james
bryant,
I
did
not
see
jameson
james
bryant.
J
Just
we
thank
the
speakers
for
their
engagement,
we're
having
a
number
of
conversations,
and
I
look
forward
to
having
those
conversations
and
negotiating
with
our
colleagues
as
we
move
forward.
But
my
interest
is
that
we
must
do
things
that
are
practical
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
will
say-
and
I
I'm
I
I
have
laid
on
the
table
bills
to
my
best
knowledge
that
are
legal
and
practical.
J
If
there
are
other
bills,
that
activists
or
members
of
community
that
are
legal
and
practical
want
to
introduce,
I
would
be
willing
to
to
sponsor
them
and
introduce
them,
but
that
we-
but
I
think
in
action
not
doing
anything
at
this
time
is
there
is
the
fear
and
I'm
hoping
to
have
my
bills
passed
before
recess.
B
K
No
so
I
just
want
to
say
I
want
to
thank
all
the
speakers
as
well
and
I've
tuned
into
every
public
hearing
and
so
far,
wouldn't
we
have,
I
think,
one
post
agenda
at
this
point
again.
You
know,
I
think
what
I
hear
more
from
the
speakers
and
people
calling
in
is
not
so
much
about
defund
the
police
police
brutality.
K
I
think
it's
more
about
the
real
issue
and
I
think
rev
hits
this
the
now
and
ahead
with
this.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
private
neighborhoods
and
resources
and
jobs
and
things
that
I
think
that
we
can
help
in
bringing
to
this.
K
I
do
believe,
there's
a
spot
in
a
good
role
that
the
social
workers
slash
groups,
the
groups
that
we
had
on
the
other
day.
I
can't
remember
all
of
them
by
name,
but
you
know
I
think,
there's
a
good
spot
for
them
here
and
and
many
more
I
would
think
they're
just
a
handful,
I'm
not
sure.
What's
out
there
and
I
didn't
realize
that
people
were
out
there
to
you
know
get
into
the
weeds,
and
you
know
help
on
anti-violence
actions
in
any
which
way
that
they
can.
K
However,
I
will
say
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
allocate
that
250
thousand
dollars
for
a
couple
reasons
number
one.
I
hate
the
word
defund
the
police
and
that's
what
all
the
callers
use.
I
don't
hear
from
council
members
which
I'm
happy
that
I
don't
hear
that
it's
a
reallocation
of
funds
and
I'm
fine
with
that
at
some
point,
but
not
until
after
I
feel
like
we
have
fully
engaged
with
you
know,
director
his
rich
and
in
the
pittsburgh
police
and
knowing
what
it
will
mean
to
them
and
what
it
won't
mean
to
them.
K
The
250
000
I'm
more
interested
in
finding
money
in
other
spots.
I
hope
that
you
know
we
could
afford
to
have
these
groups
that
we
had
on
the
other
day
and
the
rules
that
they
might
play.
I'm
also
really
concerned
as
to
what
the
rules
they
do
play,
especially
in
these
times.
When
you
know,
I
would
think
that
the
rules
that
they
would
play
would
be
engagement
on
the
street
really
talking
to
people
just
not
sure
exactly.
K
You
know
what
rules
they
play,
but
but
I
would
love
to
balance
that
all
out,
I'm
not
against
taking
250
000
from
public
safety,
but
not
until
I
know
exactly
where
it's
going
to
and
what
the
impact
is
on
the
police.
So
so
with
that
you'll
find
me
very
supportive
on
a
lot
of
changes
that
I
think
we
need
and-
and
you
know
looking
for
forward
to-
you
know
talk
with
other
members
as
to
what
they
are,
but
I
think
we're
premature
with
moving
this
money.
L
You,
madam
president,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
an
issue
and
a
timeline
issue
that
I've
been
thinking
about
recently,
and
that
is
that
well
we're
mid-summer
right
now,
but
sooner
rather
than
later,
we're
going
to
be
approaching
the
fall,
which
is
when
budget
season
begins
for
council
and
for
the
for
the
mayor's
office
and
his
team,
and
I
think
that
we
have
a
real
opportunity
this
year,
given
a
couple
of
things
given
the
interest
in
public
safety
and
policing
budgets
and
how
we
can
reallocate
resources
to
many
other
urgent
causes
and
needs,
we
also
have.
L
We
also
have
this
opportunity
with
the
different
ways
that
we're
engaging
with
the
public
through
video
meetings
online
meetings.
That
sort
of
thing,
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
as
a
council
to
reimagine,
not
just
what
a
budget
can
look
like
through
using
you
know,
criteria
to
make
sure
we're
viewing
it
through
an
equity
lens,
but
also
in
the
way
that
we
engage
with
the
public
and
to
make
sure
that
the
public
is
not
just
engaged
through
the
way
that
the
office
of
community
affairs
has
done.
L
So
you
know
each
year
in
increasing
amounts
with
public
forums
throughout
the
summer
time,
which
is
wonderful,
but
also
during
the
times
when
I
think
council
is
asking
questions
and
learning
from
our
own
department
directors
and
and
to
think
about
how
we
can
really
make
sure
that
the
public
is
a
part
of
that
process
as
well.
L
In
the
past,
it's
been
many
many
many
hearings
where
council
and
council
members
are
hearing
from
department
directors,
and
you
know
I
have
to
say
that
sometimes
those
hearings
are
sparsely,
attended
and
by
council
members,
let
alone
the
public.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
publicly.
I've
had
some
conversations
with
some
council
members.
M
Yeah
I'll
just
concur,
we
do
we
did
I
councilman
william
strasburger,
and
I
spoke
briefly
this
morning
and
it's
I
I've
said
this.
I
think
week
after
week
now
with
our
public
comments
and
council
session
and
in
these
public
hearings
that
it's
so
good
to
hear
from
people
who
are
really
educating
themselves
deeply.
Some
of
the
comments
at
our
regular
weekly
council
sessions
have
read
the
legislation
before
it's
actually
even
hit
the
table.
So
it's
really
just
like
being
it's
being
introduced
as
new
legislation.
M
It
hasn't
even
gotten
to
committee
for
discussion,
but
the
callers
are
calling
in
and
they've
read
every
word
of
the
legislation
and
they're
making
really
informed
comments
and
get
bringing
us
information
that
we
didn't
have.
So
if
we
could
carry
this
energy
over
to
our
budget
season,
just
because
really
it's
amazing
to
have
this
much
citizen
energy
focused
on
our
budget.
M
I've
been
lobbying
those
commissioners
to
do
gender-based
budgeting
and
we
have
the
opportunity,
I
think,
to
do
kind
of
that
equity-based
budgeting
for
an
intersectional
gender
and
race
lens.
M
To
look
at
how
we've
been
spending
money
and
has
it
benefited
the
people
that
we
intend
to
benefit-
or
you
know
have
we
even
looked
at,
who
is
benefiting
from
the
money,
we're
spending
both
in
operations
and
in
capital,
and
if
we
haven't
done
a
good
enough
job
disaggregating
the
data
is
the
phrase
that
we're
we're
really
pushing
for
in
that
commission,
so
that
council
has
the
information
to
weigh
well
who's,
benefiting
from
this
budget
line
or
that
budget
line
or
this
city
department
or
that
city
department.
M
We
need
that
data
and
our
citizens
need
that
data,
so
that
then
we
can
have
an
informed
discussion
where
we're
all
we
all
have
the
same
information
in
order
to
make
these
decisions
to
really
talk
about
where
the
public
imagination.
Some
people
are
saying
where
the
citizen
energy
really
wants
us
to
spend
these
significant
dollars.
600
million
dollars
operating
budget,
100
million
dollar
capital
budgets
there.
Those
can
make
a
difference.
So
that
is
the
opportunity
that
we
have
now
council
will
be
going
into
recess.
M
B
B
N
N
You
know
not
in
touch
with
what's
happening
in
my
own
district,
sometimes,
and
so
recently,
I've
been
making
my
best
effort
to
get
out
and
go
to
the
areas
where
we
have
the
most
complaints
about
a
lot
of
issues
that
people
will
call
police
for,
or
you
know
just
make,
non-phone
calls
about
an
area
where
there
is
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
drug
addiction.
There's
a
lot
of
homelessness.
N
There's
a
lot
of
just
kind
of
hanging
out.
A
lot
of
bars
are
closed,
so
we
I
have
areas
in
my
district
that
are,
you
know
in
need
of
outreach,
and
so
that's
one
of
one
of
the
reasons
that
I've
been
reaching
out
to
my
to
my
local
zone,
one
and
through
that
experience,
it's
been
enlightening
to
to
hear
the
current
strategies
of
of
what
is
what
the
current
strategy
is.
N
When
calls
like
this
come
in-
and
it's
been,
it's
been
a
good
conversation
in
really
helping
me
to
ask.
Oh
you
know,
I
guess
what
I
should
say.
It's
really
been
a
a
help
to
hear
everyone
through
this
process,
all
the
public
speaking
all
the
people
made
public
comment,
people
on
social
media
that
are
concerned.
To
really
have
me.
N
Ask
the
question
to
my
local
zone
of
of
how
are
we
you
know:
are
we
doing
any
sort
of
outreach
so,
instead
of
having
a
neighborhood
resource
officer,
that
may
be
a
possibility
in
my
area,
you
know:
is
that,
would
it
be
better
suited
to
have
someone
to
do
specific
outreach
for
need
from
the
police
force?
So
maybe
not
a
you
know
an
officer,
but
someone
else
and
to
really
to
really.
N
You
know,
try
to
manage
some
of
the
some
of
the
bigger
societal
problems,
and
I
think
that's
really
what
I'd
like
to
see
moving
forward-
and
you
know
with
our
with
our
local
zones
and
how
we're
communicating
at
least
that's
must
be
my
direction,
how
we
can
really
have
that
larger
conversation.
So
you
know
it's
just
challenging
right
now
with
the
virtual
world,
but
you
know
I've
been
trying
to
make
my
best
effort
and
to
really
understand
how
there
can
be.
N
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman
any
other
members,
no
more
second
rounds
or
anything
okay.
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
have
really
tried
to
reach
out
to
the
community
and
to
make
sure
that
we
notified
the
community
and
we've
had
more
hearings
on
this
issue
than
I
can
recall
in
recent
memory
of
any
here
of
any
any
other
item
or
agenda
item.
B
We've
had
we're
having
two
post
agendas
and
we
are
your
everyone's
encouraged
to
come
and
speak
at
not
come,
join
us
and
speak
at
public
comment
before
our
meetings
on
tuesdays
and
wednesdays
every
week,
and
I
want
to
be
clear,
even
though
we've
made
all
these
attempts.
B
I
think
it's
great
that
we
have
speakers,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
the
speakers
who
have
been
coming
out
because
it's
really
important
to
hear
from
people,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
there's
a
lot
of
times
we
hear
from
people
not
through
this
way.
We
hear
through
social
media.
We
hear
through
messages
with
you,
messenger
text
messages
twitter,
I
mean
any
kind
of
social
media
outlet.
B
Emails
phone
calls,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
coming
forward
and
I
I
mean
I
wish
that
there
were
a
way
to
get
people
to
feel
more
comfortable
coming
forward,
but
I
think
it's
just
the
more
people
realize
how
much
we
do
want
to
hear
about
some
of
these
issues
and
and
what
their
thoughts
are
on
some
of
them.
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
do
better,
but
I
do
think
we've
done
a
lot
in
terms
of
reaching
out
to
the
public
this
time
and
and
for
a
lot
of
issues.
B
We've
been
doing
that
more
and
more
frequently,
I
think,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
it's
concerning
when
you
know
that
there
are
people
that
should
be
coming
out
and
should
be
speaking
and
aren't,
and
so
we're
not
hearing
from
them.
So
it's
when
you
say
it's,
you
know
we
want
public
input.
I
don't
think
you
could
have
even
200
residents
come
out
and
speak
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
as
cool
because
they're
not
getting
the
full
picture
either
a
lot
of
times.
B
People
come
in
with
an
agenda
and
that's
what
they're
speaking
to
and
they
bring
people
with
them,
but
somebody
may
not
be
good
at
organizing
that
group
of
people
will
not
feel
comfortable
with
that.
So
I
think
that's
where
we
as
council
members
should
know
our
district
and
know
what
people
are
saying,
and
I
think
that's
why
it's
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
relaying
some
of
those
messages
back
to
one
another.
And
when
we
talk
about
money
going
into
areas.
B
I
absolutely
think
that
we
should
be
doing
more
in
doing
better,
but
I
also
want
to
remind
people
that
what
I
see
happen
in
the
city
drives
me
insane
when
I
see
us
taking
money
from
one
area,
putting
it
into
that
area
and
then
another
area
is
being
left
out.
There's
got
to
be
a
way
to
do
a
little
bit
of
balancing
here.
B
So
I
think
that
there's
we've
got
to
do
that
and
show
some
balance
of
that,
but
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
things
more
purposefully
and
I
think
that
that
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
leaving
people
out
there
we're
making
sure
pittsburgh
is
affordable
and
that
we're
helping
people
as
we
can
so
all
we're
lifting
everyone
up,
because
that's
what
this
is
really
about.
It's
making
sure
everybody
gets
a
a
helping
hand
and
I
think
to
me
that's
the
part
I
want
to
see.
I
love
about
the
social
work
services.
B
I
love
that
and
I'd
love
to
see
more
of
that,
but
I
also
think
that
the
county
has
a
rule
here
and
I
and
I
think
that
the
mayor's
office,
I
think,
we're
talking
about
some
of
the
things
that
need
to
happen.
They're
already
doing
some
of
these
things
and
ruling
them
out
as
as
we're
talking
about
them,
they're
already
rolling
things
out,
so
I
do
want
to
give
them
credit
for
some
of
the
things
that
they
are
doing
because
they're
doing
this
without
you
know
other
places
they're.
B
You
know
they
may
be
doing
things
a
little
bit
slower
or
people
may
still
be
protesting
to
get
them
done
well
in
this
city,
they're
already
getting
some
of
those
things
done,
so
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
work
that
is
being
done,
but
not
to
say
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
more
to
go
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
work
a
little
bit
more.
I
do
want
to
see
these.
B
I
would
like
to
see
us
wait
until
we
have
all
the
here
have
a
little
bit
more
conversation,
but
I
do
know
reverend
wants
to
pass
these
by
next
week
and
so
before
next
week
we
have
another
public
hearing
which
is
tomorrow,
and
we
have
another
post
agenda
which
is
monday,
so
we
do
have
two
more
times
to
engage,
and
next
week
we
will
hear
from
the
fop
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
people
that
we
had
at
the
meeting.
B
We'll
have
a
different
group
of
people
at
this
second
post
agenda
so
that
we're
getting
a
well
rounded
group
of
people
to
speak
and
hopefully
by
then
we
come
up
with
some
solutions
and
work
with
reverend
burgess
and
councilman
lavelle,
and
I
think
councilman
cross
is
a
sponsor
of
this.
B
I'm
not
sure,
but
hopefully
we
can
work
with
them
to
come
up
with
some
solutions
that
we
mostly
feel
comfortable
with
and
and
that
the
public
feels
confident
that
we've
heard
them,
and
but
yet
we
want
to
give
them
some
some
immediate
action
items
so
with
that
said
anything
else
from
the
members.