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A
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
continuation
of
city
council's
budget
hearings
this
afternoon,
the
first
we
will
begin
with
the
department
of
finance
I'll
ask
our
budget
director
to
give
an
overview
and
then
we'll
also
turn
it
over
to
our
directors.
B
That
again,
excuse
me
guys.
The
finance
department
provides
fiscal
leadership
for
the
city
focused
on
long-term
financial
health,
while
respecting
the
interests
of
its
residents.
It
also
carries
important
responsibility
to
ensure
all
entrepreneurs,
visionaries
and
leaders
have
the
necessary
services
and
city
infrastructure
to
thrive
as
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Primary
revenue
generator.
The
finest
department
is
committed
to
excellence
in
financial
management
for
the
city,
its
residents
and
businesses.
B
The
apartmental
highlights
for
2020.
The
total
budget
is
173
million
six
hundred
and
twenty
eight
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
decrease
of
8.8
million
dollars.
Total
departmental
budget,
not
including
debt
pension
and
housing
fund
transfers,
is
7
million,
548
thousand
dollars.
That's
an
increase
of
2.25
million
total
full-time
positions.
42.25
an
increase
of
four-tenths
of
position
from
2021.,
landcare
and
maintenance
coordinator
is
added.
B
An
assistant
real
estate
supervisor
is
added.
It
split.
50
50,
with
the
three
taxing
bodies,
senior
assistant,
real
estate,
added,
split
5050
again
with
the
free
tax
embodies
in
assistant
real
estate
added,
also
split
this
time.
30
70,
with
3tb
remittance
technicians,
split
1090
with
the
3tv
there's
also
the
addition
of
a
supervisor
of
cashier.
Oh,
that's!
Not
the
addition,
the
elimination
of
a
supervisor
cashiers
a
remittance
specialist
is
also
eliminated:
part-time,
administrative
assistance,
reduced
by
1500
hours
or
eleven
thousand
dollars.
B
B
Actuary
service
is
not
needed
and
the
pcrg
contract
was
reduced.
Administrative
fees
decreased
by
fifty
four
thousand
dollars.
The
legal
fees
increased
by
50
000,
a
new
contract
for
frost
todd,
brown
and
legal
assistance
was
authorized
in
september.
B
Computer
maintenance
has
increased
by
forty
one
thousand
dollars
contracted
increase
in
css
inc
for
tax
and
revenue
management.
Software
professional
services
were
also
increased
by
eighteen
thousand
dollars
for
the
indirect
cost
allocation
from
an
outside
vendor
department
of
finance
does
not
have
any
capital
projects
this
year,
but
what
it
does
have
is
the
pension
and
debt.
B
2022
60
000
or
16
million
500
and
two
thousand
dollars.
That's
up
seven
percent
from
last
year
from
56
ford
that
we
had
in
debt
service,
total
pension
contribution,
total
pension
cost
I'll
leave
it
at
that
is
105
million
five
hundred
and
seventy
seven
thousand
dollars.
That's
actually
down.
One
percent.
B
That
will
go
to
revenues
and
we
had
mentioned
revenues
the
first
time
around,
both
in
my
presentation
when
omb
was
here,
but
just
to
mention
once
again.
Total
revenue
budget
is
projected
to
be
657
million,
253
thousand
dollars
and
that's
an
increase
of
the
48
million
dollars
from
what
we
had
as
an
amended
budget
last
year
and
that
48
million
dollars,
of
course,
is
the
goal
that
we
filled
with
the
heart
funds
and
I'm
not
going
to
read
off
each
and
every
revenue
down
here.
B
But
we
know
essentially
know
the
routine.
So
with
that
I'll
give
it
back
to
you,
finance,
chair
label,.
A
Thank
you,
director,
paulus.
Is
there
anything
you
would
like
to
add.
C
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
thank
you
for
the
introduction
bill.
I'm
joined
today
by
assistant
director,
er
yeah
by
assistant
director
jennifer
goula,
I'm
the
acting
director
of
the
department
of
finance
and,
in
my
short
time,
in
the
capacity
I
just
want
to
shout
out
to
all
the
employees
in
the
department
that
that
are
working
very
hard
to
process
and
verify
all
of
the
revenue
that
we
continue
to
collect.
C
It's
been
a
very
challenging
couple
of
years
and
we're
still
dealing
with
challenging
circumstances,
and
you
know
we're
doing
the
best
that
we
can
to
keep
up
with
those
collections,
posting
and
and
whatnot,
and
as
well
as
the
forecasting
you
know,
we're
doing
it
the
best
that
we
can.
As
we
continue
to
look
at,
you
know
what
the
next
not
only
year,
but
five
years
kind
of
look
like
in
the
economy
and
within
the
city.
C
It
seems
like
every
time
we
have
a
good
idea
of
maybe
where
we're
going
a
new
variant
kind
of
pops
up
and
throws
a
a
curve
ball
at
us.
So
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
all
of
the
employees
for
for
their
work
and
dedication
and
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilman
wilson,
you
have
any
questions.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
had
some
questions
around
just
as
we
continue
to
fund
and
and
get
the
land
bank
up
and
running.
Are
there
any
adjusted
costs
for
you
know.
C
Related
to
the
land
bank,
not
particularly
at
this
time
we
have
had
title
clearing
and
title
searches
budgeted
within
the
department
for
the
past
couple
years.
We
try
to
clear
those
out
so
that
we
can
unload
those
properties
in
a
timely
manner.
So,
at
this
time
you
know,
we
feel
that
we
have
a
good,
a
good
grasp
on
things
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
that
land
bank
jen.
Would
you
like
to
add
anything
to
that.
E
Sure,
just
to
add,
we
did
make
some
changes
in
3tb,
where
we
now
offer
the
ability
of
taxpayers
themselves
to
secure
their
own,
their
own
title
to
start
the
title
search
in
order
to
start
the
quiet
title
process
which
hopefully
cuts
that
waiting
time
down
on
our
end
and
then
we
also
did
add
the
land
care
specialist
to
the
3tb
team
in
order
to
help
assist
and
coordinate
some
of
the
land
care
efforts
that
our
department
and
the
administration
has
been
working
on.
So
hopefully
that
answers
your
question.
D
Okay,
how
many,
how
many
properties
have
we
acquired
to
have
the
tangle
title
that
we
aren't
actively
going
after,
and
you
know
trying
to
move
that
property
ourselves
like
hiring
outside
an
outside
business
or
I'm
sorry,
an
outside
law
firm
to
to
get
that
untangled
and
move
the
property.
C
James,
do
you
happen
to
have
that
number
for
councilman
wilson
by
chance.
E
I
do
not
off
the
top
of
my
head.
No,
I
don't
know
how
many
are
currently
in
the
various
stages
of
the
purchasing
process.
D
Okay,
this
I'll
move
on
the
pension
contribution
is
this.
Is
this
show
reflective
of
the
change
we
recently
made
to
the
pension.
C
No
that
that
that
isn't
reflective
of
that
we
received
these
amounts
from
our
actuary
a
couple
months
ago,
while
the
most
recent
change
with
the
social
security
offset
was
still
in
limbo.
Plus
we
will
not
see
the
effect
of
that
until
2023,
with
the
way
the
actuarial
analysis
works.
We
do
what
what
is
called
evaluation
every
two
years
and
so
right
now
we
did
evaluation
for
one
one:
twenty
twenty
one.
D
You
know
it's
difficult
with
this
chart
here
is
that
pandemic
started
in
20.
D
So
the
year
like
2019
would
be
useful
in
terms
of
change
because
it
doesn't
really-
I
mean
2021,
it's
a
difficult
year
to
show
a
percent
change
and
within
the
parking
authority
being
on
that
board,
we
made
the
decision
to
always
show
2019.
you'll
be
interested.
Can
you
send
me
the
the
document
with
the
2019
column?
B
I
did
do
it
in
our
our
budget
presentation,
okay,.
D
B
We
started
off,
but
yes,
I
do
have
that
information
I'll,
be
glad.
D
Yeah,
so
what's
the
what's
the
biggest
you
know,
what's
the?
What
are
the
differences
here
with
well.
B
Off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
your
your
big
ones
are
going
to
be
the
parking
tax,
preparation,
tax
and
the
amusement
tax.
Those
are
the
big
three
that
took
the
just
hit
during
the
pandemic.
We
actually
had
an
increase
in
earned
income
and
also
d
transfer
tax,
which
helped
to
balance
out
the.
D
B
D
B
That's
the
that's
the
hope,
but
you
know
as.
B
Had
mentioned,
you
know
we
keep
getting
different
variants
thrown
at
us,
so.
D
D
C
We're
at
15.6
percent
15.6
million
in
2019.
C
Yeah
and
that's
due
in
large
part
to
you
know,
we've
seen
obviously
an
uptick
in
you
know
attendance
like
the
controller
was
talking
about
in
his
budget
hearing
a
few
days
ago.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
heinz
field,
that's
full
on
sundays.
For
for
games,
we've
had
a
large
concert.
Over
the
summer
time
we've
had
additional
concerts
announced
for
next
year.
C
You
know
full
seasons
for
for
all
of
the
sporting
events
and-
and
so
the
one
thing
that
we've
seen
throughout
2021,
is
that
amusement
tax
is
kind
of
on
on
pace
for
where
we,
where
we
thought
it
was
going
to
end
up.
We
originally
estimated
it
at
you,
know
7.2
million
and
keep
in
mind
what
early
in
2021
looked
like.
C
So
now
with
you
know
the
new,
the
new
football
season
and
hockey
season
and
concerts
and
whatnot,
we
are
on
what
we
feel
is
on
pace
to
to
meet
that
seven
million
dollar
amount,
but
then,
more
importantly,
rebound
to
a
2019
level.
A
prior
pandemic,
where
you
know
more
concerts,
are
being
are
being
announced.
Hopefully
the
variant.
Doesn't
the
new
variant
doesn't
affect
that,
but
we
will.
I
guess
we
will
wait
and
see.
D
Right
announced
well,
maybe
they'll
play
in
the
city,
hopefully
since
it'll
be
hopefully
pittsburgh.
What's
the
what's
the
other
tax,
what
tax
do
we
draw?
Other
taxes
drop,
100.
E
Oh,
I
can
answer
that
one,
if
you
don't
mind,
yeah
other
taxes.
So
in
the
past
we
used
to
collect
a
mercantile
tax,
what
they
call
an
occupation,
tax
eit
used
to
be
called
pgh,
40
and
so
they're.
All
since
gone
away
and
they've
been
replaced
with
the
business
tax
and
self-assessed
taxes
that
you
see
currently
and
they're.
Most
of
the
ones
outside
of
you
know
like
real
estate
and
d
transfer
and
act
77,
but
so
we
see
them
sometimes
in
small
increments.
E
Maybe
somebody
pays
a
pass
due
tax
that
was
due
a
long
time
ago,
or
maybe
they
are
in
bankruptcy
and
we
receive
a
payment
for
a
bankruptcy
claim
that
we
have
out
there
for
one
of
those
taxes,
and
so
that's
an
inconsistent
number.
Sometimes
we
see
money
in
those
years.
Sometimes
we
don't
sometimes
somebody's
owed
a
refund
for
whatever,
which
could
be
why
it's
negative,
so
they're,
just
miscellaneous
ones
that
are
still
hanging
out
there
from
years
past.
D
Okay,
a
question
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
other
members
this
these
items
here
we
have
different
retired
like
a
different
public
safety,
and
one
is,
you
know
it
seems
a
small
amount.
So,
what's
going
on
here,
we
put
in
like
say
for
a
retired
ems
5000,
that's
just
we
just
put
an
additional
5
000
in.
C
So
what
so?
What
those
are
those
are
health,
insurance,
reimbursement
payments.
B
A
C
Because,
obviously,
those
employees
were
employed
by
the
city
a
while
ago
and
as
they
begin
to
fall
off
the
health
insurance,
you
know
those
payments
will
no
longer
be
needed.
D
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
thanks
and
I
will
thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
E
Yes,
I
will
I'm
sorry.
I
was
having
trouble
hitting
the
mute
button.
Apologies
actually
that's
something!
That's
been
happening
year
over
year
as
we've
not
sold
as
many
properties
and
have
a
hard
time
disposing
or
of
properties.
E
What
we
did
actually
to
kind
of
slow
that
down
a
little
bit
is
some
of
those
positions
and
three
taxing
bodies.
If
they're
also
doing
work
for
just
the
real
estate
department,
we
actually
split
up
their
duties
as
to
the
percentage
of
which
area
they're
working
for
and
we've
been
able
to
defer.
E
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Well,
actually,
I
apologize.
I
should
have
deferred
to
councilman
strasbourg.
She
had
questions.
F
Oh
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
the
everyone
here
from
the
department
of
finance
and
I
apologize
for
missing
your
presentation,
but
I
do
have
all
the
information
and
relevant
sections
of
the
budget
in
front
of
me.
F
I
really
don't
have
too
much
just
a
couple
of
clarifying
questions
for
me
to
help
my
understanding,
I
see.
C
Yeah,
so
that
that
that
line
object
account
title
that
you're
referring
to
is
basically
the
portion
of
the
sales
tax
that
we
get
through
the
regional
asset
district,
so
the
rad
the
rad
dollars
that
we
get.
We
also
use
for
dpw
operations
as
well
as
parks
operations
and
capital
projects.
This
is
just
based
on
sales
tax
that
happens
in
the
region,
and
that's
why
it's
recorded
into
the
general
fund
in
in
this
revenue
category.
F
C
Yeah
this
particular
one
is
a
portion
of
sales
tax.
We
do
get
the
grants
from
rad
for
both
operations,
operating
expenses
and
capital
expenses
that
are
housed
within
dpw
and
parks.
Though,
and
those
are,
those
costs
are
for
those
revenues
and
expenses
are
in
the
trust
funds.
F
Sure
and
that's
specifically,
for
certain
properties,
entities
that
are
eligible
right
for.
F
A
E
D
E
So
the
one
tax
pgh
would
be
our
online
portal
for
taxpayers
to
pay
or
review
all
of
their
taxes,
which
is
working,
but
it's
been
pushed
back
for
release
for
a
little
bit.
Basically
do
the
to
the
pandemic.
We've
been
trying
to
build
out
a
comprehensive
tax
system
all
virtually.
E
So
it's
been
a
bit
of
a
challenge
and
we
have
business
the
business
tax
for
our
employees
up
and
running,
but
there
are
some
issues
that
they
have
to
work
through.
So
considering
that
we're
trying
to
work
through
those
things
and
get
them
repaired
first,
we
have
delayed
the
the
go
live
for
the
real
estate
portion
of
the
tax
system
and
then
the
online
as
well,
but
we
hope
to
have
that
done
in
early
2022.
D
Yeah,
are
we
gonna
be
able
to
process
the
tax
payments
in
a
in
a
decent
time
this
year,
yeah.
E
We're
hoping
to
I
mean
to
be
to
be
honest.
Through
this
whole
thing,
we've
had
basically
two
people
that
have
processed
all
those
tax
payments,
and
you
know,
we've
lost
people,
do
the
pandemic.
We've
had
people
ill
or
had
to
quarantine,
but
for
all
those
two
people
basically
have
been
responsible
for
depositing
and
processing
all
of
those
documents
and
payments.
But
next
year
we
have
more
staff.
That's
on
the
budget
that
we
intend
to
hire,
and
hopefully,
with
the
new
tax
system
up
and
running.
It
will
also
help
to
speed
that
up.
D
Okay,
so
to
prevent
those
delays,
apologize
if
I
missed
this,
I
walked
in
a
couple
minutes
late.
The
these
added
positions
is
what
the
the
thought
is
to
th.
This
was.
This
was
an
action
that
you
all
took
that
you're.
Taking
that
you
want
to
have
these
added.
I
know
I'm
sorry,
I'm
looking
at.
What's
I
was
about
to
mention
the
titles,
but
then
I'm
actually
look
at
the
ones
that
are
being
eliminated
here
so
which
ones
are
you
adding?
That
will
help
you.
C
Councilman,
wilson,
the
the
the
way
it's
depicted
in
the
personnel
sheet
is
kind
of
quirky
because
we
had
to
amend
the
2021
document.
So
any
any
position
that
we
re-implement
or
yeah
re-implemented.
With
the
amended
2021
document,
we
assigned
a
a
full
one
fte.
C
C
So
while
it
looks
like
it's
being
reduced,
if
you
look
one
line
above,
you
will
see
that
that
number
goes
from
2
and
20
21
to
4.1,
and
that's
because
that's
for
those
remittance
techniques,
technician
positions
that
are
full-time
and
are
also
splitting
time
between
processing
things
with
re-taxing
bodies.
B
I
mean
I
hit
it
twice
again,
I'm
sorry
about
that.
The
mission
department
of
law
is
to
provide
legal
advice
and
services
as
in-house
corporate
counsel
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
which
often
involves
providing
advice
to
the
mayor
city,
director
of
city,
council
and
various
government
units.
B
It
represents
the
city
in
all
legal
aspects
of
its
daily
government
functions.
It
also
represents
the
city
in
high
profile
cases,
significantly
impacting
public
policy
city
residents.
Quality
of
life.
Artman
law
operates
as
a
quality,
proactive
boutique
law,
firm,
attracting
talented
professionals
with
impeccable
integrity
from
the
public
and
private
sectors.
B
The
law
department
also
oversees
and
provides
support
for
the
ethics
hearing
board
financials
for
the
department
of
law.
This
year,
budgetary
impact
total
budget,
six
million
two
hundred
and
eighty
three
thousand
dollars
an
increase
of
six
hundred
and
fifty
four
thousand
dollars
or
eleven
percent
total
full-time
positions.
Thirty
four
point:
five
plus
funding
for
part-time
positions,
valerian
position,
changes
of
note
and
administrative
assistant
claims
administrator
has
been
eliminated
and
replaced
with
two
paralegals
and
that
increase
of
sixty
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
or
assistance
solicitor
positions
receive
modest
increases.
B
Total
increase
between
all
four
is
twelve
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars.
Part-Time
legal
secretary
has
eliminated
twenty
eight
thousand
four
hundred
sixty
seven
dollars.
Department
of
law,
non-salary
subclasses
changed
across
five
line,
items
for
net
increase
of
461
thousand
dollars
or
20.
B
There
were
minor
changes
to
where
line
items
are
housed.
The
only
to
note
our
judgments
was
increased
by
311
000
250
000
of
the
increases
for
pima
match
to
buy
out
landslide
properties.
B
Legal
fees
are
increased
by
150
000
for
outside
legal
counsel
for
labor
matters,
a
law
department
has
no
capital
projects,
and
the
law
department
also
has
no
trust
funds
and
I
might
as
well
just
read
the
ethics
board
as
well
too
total
budget
there
175
356,
there's
an
increase
of
fifty
two
hundred
dollars.
No
changes
to
any
positions
or
non-salary
line
items
increases
due
to
the
non-union
costs
of
living
raises
to
existing
positions
and
minor
increases
to
the
benefit
line
and
without.
A
With
that
solicitor
anything
you
would
like
to
add.
G
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
council
very
much
for
considering
our
budget
request.
We
appreciate
your
questions
and
consideration.
G
I'd
like
to
thank
the
administration
for
working
with
us
to
develop
a
detailed
budget
to
continue
serving
our
clients,
and
I
I'd
like
to
thanks
of
33
very
hard
working
members
current
of
the
law
department
for
helping
serve
our
client,
the
city
of
pittsburgh
diligently
every
day,
and
I
especially
appreciate
everyone's
flexibility
during
the
pandemic
to
continue
to
get
things
done,
timely
and
effectively
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
our
solicitor
for
being
here
today,
but,
most
importantly
for
the
work
that
you
and
your
team
do
every
single
day.
I
know
that
you
can
always
use
more
support.
You
can
always
use
more
staff.
You
can
always
use
more
bandwidth
and
you're
serving
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
which
means
you're
serving
hundreds
of
different
clients.
Every
dif.
You
know
thousands
of
clients
every
day.
In
a
sense
you
have
many
bosses
and
that
pulls
you
in
different
directions
and
that's
not
an
easy
task.
F
F
Do
you
think
that
that
this
is
the
best
structure
for
the
the
law
department?
Is
it
working?
Well?
Is
it
you
know,
is
it?
Is
everyone
housed
in
kind
of
the
appropriate
office
within
the
the
department
of
law?
Are
there
other
models
that
you've
seen?
That
might
be
ideas
for
us
to
consider?
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
discuss
that
and
and
get
your
thoughts
on
that
on
the
that
issue.
G
So,
thank
you.
I
think
that
we
have
we're
a
mighty
team
for
the
amount
of
work
we
perform
for
sure.
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
good
balance
right
now
of
what
we
handle
in-house
and
and
what
is
done
with
outside
counsel,
and
you
know
I,
I
guess,
facility
wise
we're
kind
of
bursting
in
that
we're
we're
pretty
full
house.
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
number
of
attorneys.
G
We're
down
a
couple
now
in
the
labor
group,
so
we're
we're
hiring
we're
we're
looking
to
hire,
and
I
think
once
that
complement
is
completed,
we
may
there
may
be
some
recommendations
about
how
that.
G
Kind
of
team
works
whether
there
should
be
maybe
more
of
an
oversight
with
one
more
experienced
attorney
and
other
attorneys
can
come
for
questions
and
maybe
have
some
newer
attorneys.
But
it's
you
know
going
to
be
up
to
the
new
solicitor
to
to
make
that
call.
G
You
know
there
are
some
other
we've
always
found
it
important
to
kind
of
cross
train
people.
So
I
do
think
it's
important
to
the
extent
that
there's
the
time
to
do
it
and
it's
important
to
make
time
to
do
it
to
make
sure
that
more
than
one
person
knows
how
to
do
different
functions.
G
So
we
have,
for
example,
one
main
person
doing
right
to
know
and
one
person
handles
code
enforcement,
and
I
do
think
it's
important
to
kind
of
maybe
bring
in
some
other
attorneys
to
learn
how
to
do
that
as
well
in
a
more
proactive
way.
So
we're
not
kind
of
reacting
but
we're
anticipating
needs
going
forward.
F
That's
helpful.
You
got
at
some
of
the
issues.
I
was
curious
about,
so
that's
helpful
and
given
all
of
the
the
hard
work
that
your
team
does,
but
also
the
the
constraints,
are
we
in
a
place
right
now
where
there
can
be
some
sort
of
anticipation
or
proactive
education?
F
Learning
about
you
know,
policies
you
anticipate
might
be
heading
for
pittsburgh
that
when
we
see
policies
sort
of
spread
throughout
the
country
right
and
they
you
know
just
interest
political
interest
or
whatever
might
be
the
case-
that
there
can
then
be
the
the
kind
of
anticipatory
work
done
to
to
prepare
for
learn
about
that.
I
know
that
some
attorneys
within
the
law
department
I
talk
to
they
follow
within
their
area
of
study.
They
they
follow
the
law
very
very
closely
in
a
myriad
ways.
F
You
know
by
reading
cases
by
just
studying
case
law
by
staying
on
top
of
the
issues
of
interest
to
them.
So
I
know
what
happens
on
a
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
is
that
is
that
currently
built
into
the
the
department?
Is
it
just
or
is
it
not
because
we
just
don't
have
the
bandwidth?
I'm
kind
of
curious
there.
G
So
we
have
an
attorney
currently
who
kind
of
assists
if
we're
invited,
or
we
learn
about
an
amicus
brief
opportunity,
for
example,
whether
that
might
be
you
know
it
could
involve
a
variety
of
issues,
firearms
or
immigration,
and
if
the
administration
or
council
members
are
interested
in
us,
you
know
looking
into
that.
G
G
For
example,
we
have
out,
we
are
working
with
outside
counsel
on
that,
so
you
know,
I
will
say
that
the
the
kind
of
general
day-to-day
work
does
keep
us
busy
and
we're
only
able
to
do
a
certain
amount
of
the
outside
advocacy
so
to
the
extent
that
there's
an
interest
in
expanding
that
probably
would
be
helpful
to
have.
You
know
an
attorney
kind
of
focused
on
that.
F
So
I
appreciate
that
you
said
it,
so
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
it
because
I
didn't
know
if
this
was
public,
but
you
said
a
new
solicitor,
so
I
wanted
to
just
take
the
opportunity
right
now
to
acknowledge
that
you
know
you
will
be
leaving
us
right,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
decades
plus
of
support
of
of
work
for
the
city.
F
I
know
that
you've
seen
a
lot
pass
through
the
law
department
and
you've
been
at
the
helm
now
for
almost
my
entire
time.
Working
for
you
know
working
at
the
city
of
pittsburgh
in
some
capacity
or
another,
and
I
really
just
want
to
thank
you.
I
know
it's.
It
hasn't
always
been
easy
and
you
have
been
under
a
tremendous
amount
of
pressure
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
from
many
different
people
and
you've
handled
it
with
grace.
And
I
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
done.
G
Well,
I
I
appreciate
that
it's
been
my
honor
to
serve
as
a
solicitor,
and
it's
been
my
honor
to
work
in
the
law
department
for
many
years
and
to
work
with
you
know.
I
think
it's
five
administrations
now
and
such
talented,
talented
people
and
working
with
you,
councilwoman
and
other
members
of
council
has
been
interesting
and
and
challenging
and
very
fulfilling.
And
I
appreciate
that
and
thank
you.
H
So,
sir
hilton,
as
you
know,
I
have
the
highest
regard
of
for
you
and
for
your
insight
and
professionalism.
I
I
always
enjoy
the
interaction
with
the
law
department.
I
think
not
sure,
but
I
think
my
office
has,
as
least
as
much,
if
not
more
interaction
with
various
people
in
the
law
department
of
anyone
on
council.
I
I
I
you
might.
G
H
Right,
as
you
know,
I
tend
to
like
to
kind
of
go
at
stuff
right.
You
know
in
my
mind
I'm
having
this
even
rereading
the
charter,
and
you
know
second-class
city
law,
and
just
you
know
anyway,
that's
the
second
cyborg.
I
just.
I
really
have
learned
to
appreciate
you
and
even
when
we
disagree,
you
have
done
it
with
kindness.
You
corrected
me.
It's
been
with
kindness
and
gentleness
and
and
and
great
insight,
and
so
I
am
saddened
that
you
will.
You
have
been
a
pillar
of
stability
and
strength
in
our
city.
H
The
scope
of
work
and
the
breadth
of
activity
that
the
city
can
take
on
because
of
your
rulings
and
your
insight
I
have
tried
in
the
past,
to
always
be
from
from
specter
on
I've
tried
to
be
a
friend
of
of
the
solicitors,
because
I
I
take
their
role
very
seriously.
I've,
never
I've
never
publicly
challenge
their
their
their
opinions.
H
Nor
do
I
intend
to,
and
so
I
on
one
thing
I
am,
I
am
sad
and
very
sad
to
see
you
go
because
you
have
just
been
that
that
tremendous
gifted
committed
public
servant
and
then
second
of
all,
I
will
say
very
publicly
that
I
will
then
even
more
so
than
the
last
time
I
had
it.
I
will
be
extraordinarily
word
I
will
be.
I
will.
I
will
be
very
vigilant
on
examining
the
qualifications
of
the
next
solicitor.
H
I
will
demand
that
that
person
has
municipal
a
solid
municipal
background.
I
I
would
not.
I
will
not
vote
for
a
solicitor
that
comes
from
you
know
a
federal
or
or
state
perspective.
I
I
will
not
we're
at
such
a
pivotal
point
in
the
life
of
this
city.
I
am
completely
completely
commit
to
the
notion
of
local
government
expertise,
and
so
one
of
my
and
I'll
say
that
it
doesn't
matter
who
the
mayor
is,
but
it
matters
to
me
very
much
what
I
mean
by
doesn't
matter
which
it
doesn't
matter
to
me.
H
I
said
wrong.
It
doesn't
matter
to
me
what
the
person
is
that
the
mayor
sends.
What
matters
to
me
is
the
qualification.
We
need
someone
that
has
a
proven
track
record
of
municipal
experience
at
this
time.
That's
my
own
personal
belief,
but
I
said
to
say:
I'm
I'm
really
grateful
for
your
leadership
and
you
know
I'm
a
fan.
D
Yes,
I
have
to
say
I
learned
something
new
in
this
this
hearing
here.
So
sorry,
I
wasn't
privy
to
the
info
prior.
But
yes
thank
you
for
your
for
your
public
service
and
it's
been.
It's
been
a
good
experience
working
with
you
and
your
department,
especially
on
a
couple
bills
that
you
know
I've
been
one
I
was
working
on
for
a
while
and
then
the
other
one
I
just
kind
of
put
on
the
table
and
your
you
and
your
office
have
been
very
helpful
in
each
regard.
D
So
just
wondering,
although
we've
we've
had
a
brief,
a
brief
period
of
working
together.
So
I
feel
you
know
it's
unfortunate,
it's
being
cut
short,
but
I
wish
you
all
the
best
in
your
next
endeavor.
A
Thank
you
any
other
members.
If
not,
I
also
just
simply
want
to
thank
you
for
your
years
of
work
solicitor
hilton.
You
have
supported
this
council
even
at
times
when
we
disagree,
you've
helped
us
find
a
way
to
get
a
lot
of
things
accomplished.
There
are
a
lot
of
bills
that
this
council
has
fought
for
that
we
believe
were
right
and
just
and
then
you've
helped
us
craft
them
and
then
you've
helped
us
go
to
court.
A
I
even
think
of
a
bill
such
as
source
of
income
which
we
ultimately
lost,
but
that
you
went
time
and
time
again
to
try
to
defend,
because
it
was
right
and
jess
and
even
as
I
look
at
councilman
strasberger
the
work
that
she
did
around
gun
safety
and
the
work
that
you
all
provided
to
support
to
figure
out
a
way
for
us
to
provide
gun
safety
laws
within
our
city.
So
you
have.
A
You
have
been
a
strong,
fierce
advocate
on
behalf
of
the
city
you're,
taking
away
with
you
decades
of
institutional
knowledge
that
we
will
surely
miss.
But
I
want
to
congratulate
you.
Thank
you
for
your
years
of
service
and
we
wish
you
nothing
but
the
best
in
your
next
endeavors
and
given
that
you're
not
leaving
too
far
from
government,
I'm
sure
we'll
be
working
again
soon.
A
All
right,
if
nothing
else
I
need,
I
do
need
to
announce
that
council
budget
hearings
will
continue
tomorrow
morning
at
10
a.m,
with
department
of
public
works,
which
will
be
chaired
by
councilman
coghill.
With
that
we
need
a
motion
to
recess.
E
A
J
I'm
here
hi
I.
I
would
also
like
to
join
everyone
else
here
and
thanking
yvonne
for
her
dedication
to
the
city.
It's
been
such
a
pleasure
getting
to
know
her
and
you
know,
receive
her
guidance
and
she's
she's
great
so
but
as
to
ethics,
are
there
any
questions
about
that?
J
We,
we
don't
have
any
budget
requests
this
year,
especially
due
to
the
you
know
such
a
shortened
amount
of
revenue
coming
in
due
to
the
pandemic,
so
I
thought
it
was
appropriate
to
try
to
keep
things
the
same
for
now.
A
I
Leanne
this
is
councilman
coghill.
How
are
you.
J
I
Good
to
see
you
hey,
listen,
I
I
first
want
to
compliment
you.
You
know
when
you
took
this
office
before
you
took
it,
I
felt
it
was
like
a
bit
of
a
mess.
We
would
go
to
turn
our
expense
reports
in
and
the
door
was
locked
on
the
day
that
it
was.
You
know
due,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
to
making
the
effort
to
coordinate
our
expense
reports
to
be
with
the
counties.
I
You
know
at
least
the
third
one
in
each
primary
slash
general
election.
I
I
know
now,
which
was
a
lot
easier
and
I
do
you
know
I
could
hire
somebody
to
do
all
that,
but
lisa
and
I
are
kind
of
fanatics
about
making
sure
every
thing
is
to
the
dime,
and
you
know
we
scour
over
our
reports
30
times
before
we
turn
them
in,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
you
so
we
you
require
three
reports
in
the
three
months
leading
up
to
primary
or
general
election.
That's
correct!
Right!
Yes,
okay,
why
three
reports
you
know
and
I'm
just
speaking
as
a
you
know.
I
First
anybody
running
for
office.
You
know
things
change,
we
write
a
check
and
then
we
have
to
do
a
whole
new
report
for
you
in
in
the
next
week
or
two.
So
so,
why
is
it?
Why
can't
we
just
be
on
the
same
schedule
as
a
county
and
just
turn
in
the
same
paperwork
we
do
with
the
county.
What's
the
you
know?
What's
the
structure
I.
J
Believe
the
initial
legislative
intent
here
was
for
there
to
be
greater
transparency
and
accountability.
Here,
the
as
you
know,
the
county
report
is
due
basically
a
week
before
the
election,
so
I
think
that
the
initial
intent
when
the
legislation
was
passed
in
2015
was
to
increase
the
the
amount
of
time
before
the
election.
I
Okay,
but
no
liam,
it
just
seems
like
a
extraordinary
amount
of
paperwork
that
we
have
to
do
and
deadlines
that
we
have
to
meet
and
we
try
to
meet
every
one
of
our
deadlines
and
lisa
raves
about
you
and
what
you're
doing
with
the
department
I'll
have
you
know
so
not
being
of
you
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
Okay-
and
I
know
these
procedures
were
in
place
before
you
came
on,
I
believe,
but.
I
Right
right,
yes,
there
were
five
and
I'm
glad
we're
down
to
three
and
I'm
glad
the
last
one
is
just
simply
copying
what
we're
putting
to
the
county
and
giving
to
you
that
just
makes
sense.
You
know
those
other
two
that
are
due.
I
don't
know
why
the
transparent!
You
know
you
know
what
we
turn
into
the
county
is
public
knowledge
and
I
feel
anybody
could
look
at
and
I'm
not
sure
why
I
was
implemented
like
that.
I
But
you
know
I
just
would
think
it's
a
lot
less
work
for
you
and
for
the
candidates
and
for
everybody
involved,
and
I
don't
know
what
I'm
going
to
try
to
hide
in
a
month
versus
you
know
two
weeks
or
four
weeks
be
prior
to
my
primary
and
I
understand
transparency,
but
I
guess
I
feel,
like
all
the
transparency
is
filed
with
the
county,
and
I
like
the
fact
that
we
have
our
own
ethics
department,
but
you
know
I
feel,
like
there's
more
work
involved
with
our
own
ethics
department
and,
quite
frankly,
I
know
that
nobody
really
takes
these
reports.
I
Unless
I,
when
I
do,
I
look
at
my
opponent's
reports.
All
the
time-
and
I
think
I
brought
it
to
your
attention-
you
know
one
report
was
like
chicken
scratch.
You
know,
and
I
thought
what
is
this
right,
so
I
think
we
called
you-
and
you
were
quick
to
you-
know,
look
into
it
for
us
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
so
we're
turning
these
reports
in
but
nobody's
looking
at
them.
Unless
you
inquire
to
look
at
them
right.
C
I
J
Yeah
we
do
have
the
ability
to
audit
the
reports
now
and
in
terms
of
the
interest
in
campaign
finance.
That's
a
that's
a
great
point.
I
do
think
that
there
should
be
more
public
engagement,
so
yeah,
that's
something
that
we
can
look
at
as
well.
Different
places
in
the
country
run
things
very
differently
in
terms
of
elections
and
campaign
finance.
Some
places
have
monies
for
the
average
citizen
to
to
to
give
that
are
public.
J
J
There
was
a
really
neat
study
where
the
amount
of
civic
engagement
around
the
election
of
a
candidate
is
directly
correlated
to
disbursement
of
city
services
thereafter,
and
they
found,
when
you
know
the
more
people
that
can
be
engaged,
that
cuts
down
on
racial
and
income
inequalities
and
helps
distribute
those
public
services
more
justly
throughout
the
community.
J
So
I
think
it's
important-
and
you
know
just
like
you
said
getting
those
procedures.
How
many
filings
it
should
be?
When
should
the
reporting
periods
line
up?
I
think
that
sort
of
technicality
can
be
fine-tuned
over
time
to.
I
Find
a
better
fit:
it's
not
just
your
department,
the
city
controller.
I
talk
to
often
about
this
as
well.
He
has
a
separate
date,
so
we
have
three
different
filing
reports.
You
have
you
require
three
before
each
one,
the
one
with
the
controller
we
got
one
with
the
county.
You
know
before
every
primary
or
general
election
so
that
there
we're
looking
at
five
different
reports
that
are
due
on
all
separate
dates.
You
know
what
I
mean.
I
J
I
I
personally,
you
know,
wish
we
could
cut
out
the
multiple
reports
and
just
do
it
whether
we
want
to
do
it
earlier
than
the
county
would
be
more
transparent,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
question
for
you
or
maybe
this
body.
You
know
our
campaign.
Finance
amounts,
our
limits.
You
know
we're
limited
to
twenty
eight
hundred
dollars
per
person,
five
thousand
dollars
per
pack.
You
know
that.
Do
you
follow
that.
J
Yeah
our
limits
are
tied
to
the
fec
limits.
I
believe
it's
2
900,
but
you're
right.
It's
it's
a
low
number
for
an
individual.
It's
about
5
000
for
a
pack,
I
believe
and
that's
tied
to
the
election
cycle
and.
I
You
know,
I'm
probably
better
off
talking
to
some
members
of
council
about
how
we
can
adjust
that
I
don't
I
feel
like
we
shouldn't,
have
those
limits
when
state
offices
and
other
people
don't
have
the
limits,
and
when
you
have
people
running
for
mayor's
office,
they
just
set
up
some
special
pac
fund
that
pays
for
everything.
You
know
what
I
mean.
So
there
are
ways
around
it.
I
feel
like
we
are
the
ones
the
only
ones
in
in
the
western
pennsylvania
are
restricted
by
the
amount
we
can
raise
and
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
I
don't
have
hordes
of
people
saying
anthony.
I
want
to
give
you
more
money,
not
even
close.
You
know,
but
you
know
I
just
wish.
We
didn't
have
to
worry
and
think
about
it,
just
like
every
other
elected
official
and
it
really
limits
say.
For
instance,
I
don't
have
any
other
aspirations,
but
if
one
of
these
council
members
wanted
to
run
for
governor,
you
know
well,
I
guess
it
set
up
a
different
pack
for
that.
I
So
that's
not
fair,
but
okay,
so
so
at
the
very
least,
I'd
like
to
look
at
those
limits
at
some
point-
and
I
don't
know
if
we'd
have
to
do
that
legislatively.
Does
anybody
here
at
the
table
now
yeah?
Okay?
So
so
I
would
like
to
know.
I
Got
it,
and
that
was
what
eight
years
ago
or
so
right,
okay,
and
at
least
for
on
your
end,
lee
and
I'll
talk
to
council
members
about
that
and
see
if
the
will
was
there
to
actually
change
that
in
the
young
months,
but
but
on
your
end,
yeah.
I
If
we
could
try
to
you
know
rather
than
three
reports
in
a
three-month
period,
we
can
do
you
know
one
report,
like
everybody
else
this
way,
I
only
have
to
worry
about
three
rather
than
five
reports,
every
election
cycle,
I'm
not
worried
about
for
another
four
years,
but
I
thought
you
know
other
people
yeah
trying
to
do
them
a
favor
too.
So
I
just
you
know
if
you're
paying
somebody
to
do
it.
I
guess
it's
another
story.
I
You
don't
have
to
worry
too
much
about
it,
but,
as
I
told
you
we
kind
of
take,
I
take
it
all
on
myself
and
I
find
it
to
be
incredibly,
you
know
unnecessary.
I
would
say
more
than
anything,
especially
when
nobody
even
looks
at
them.
I
don't
feel
you
know
nobody
ought
something
you
you
do
have
the
power
to
audit,
which
is
good
to
hear.
I
I
didn't
realize
that,
but
I
did
my
own
auditing,
of
course,
with
my
opponents
and
some
other
people,
and
I
found
like
multiple,
multiple
mistakes
and
you
know
I
don't
know
how
we
enforce
that.
If
we
do
find
those
mistakes,
I
think
we
just
go
back
and
they
change
it
right
and
then
they
resubmit
it
and
we
hope
that's
more
accurate.
But
okay,
that's
all
I
by
the
way
leon.
I
Want
to
thank
you,
you
know
you
are
a
breath
of
fresh
air.
I
can't
remember
the
former.
You
know
director's
name,
but
you
know
I
know
you
work
with
lisa
a
lot
more
than
you
do
with
me,
but
so
I'm
going
by
what
she
says
mostly
and
she
just
adores
you
and
thinks
you're
doing
a
great
job.
J
A
You
any
other
members,
if
not.
I
also
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
do.
I
know
you
personally
have
reminded
me
on
numerous
occasions
that
I
needed
to
get
my
report
in
that
I
would
track
of
those
dates,
so
I
I
appreciate
that
on
behalf
of
my
mother.
She
also
appreciates
the
reminders
that
you
provide
us
with
and
the
clear
instructions
on
how
to
get
it
done.
So,
thank
you,
but
I
also
agree
with
councilman
caulker.
A
You
can
make
some
changes
all
right
all
right,
if
not,
if
nothing
else
hearings
will
continue
tomorrow
morning
at
10
a.m.
With
the
department
of
public
works
chaired
by
councilman
coghill,
we
need
a
motion
to
recess
motion
to
recess.
Thank
you
all.
Those
in
favor
say
aye,
hey.