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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
pittsburgh
city
council's
recessed
meeting
for
the
budget
hearings
for
2021.,
we
are
joined
this
morning
by
councilman
wilson
and
welcome
mayor
peduto
and
his
chief
of
staff,
dan
gilman
and
assistant
chief
lindsey
powell,
and
we
have
our
budget
director
bill
orbin.
Mr
bennett,
did
you
have
a
few
things
you
wanted
to
say
sure.
B
B
B
The
total
amount
of
the
mayor's
budget
budget
for
2022
is
1
million,
437
827
dollars,
mayor
oversees,
the
entirety
of
the
city,
city's
operation
and
city
operating
and
capital
budget,
with
the
exceptions
of
city
council,
the
city
clerk,
the
city
controller
and
the
quasi-independent
citizens
police
review
board,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
there
are
no
real
changes
from
the
budgetary
aspect
this
time.
So
I'll
give
it
back
to
you
adam.
A
Thank
you,
director,
urbanic.
B
C
Thank
you,
council
president.
As
mr
urbanic
stated,
the
budget
for
next
year
is
basically
the
same
as
this
past
year,
with
a
cost
of
living
adjustment
of
three
percent
for
all
non-union
positions.
C
C
There
are
no
changes
to
the
budget
and
I
look
forward
to
being
able,
over
the
course
of
these
next
several
weeks
to
assure
a
very
smooth
transition
in
order
to
assure
that
the
next
administration
hits
the
ground
running
immediately
upon
that
first
week,
although
that
was
my
first
meeting
with
the
mayor-elect
our
office
and,
namely,
the
leadership
within
our
office,
has
been
meeting
on
a
regular
basis
with
mayor
gainey's
leadership,
to
assure
any
of
the
questions
that
they
may
have
are
answered,
and
also
to
assure
that
any
of
the
records
files
and
anything
else
that
they
need
will
be
delivered
in
a
timely
fashion
to
them.
C
This
was
something
that
we
promised
to
them
immediately
upon
his
victory
and
will
assure
all
the
way,
through
and
even
into
those
early
days
of
their
administration
during
the
months
of
january
february
and
so
on,
to
assure
for
the
people
of
pittsburgh
that
anything
that
we
were
able
to
do
over
these
eight
years
that
helped
to
make
pittsburgh
a
better
city
will
continue
as
well.
E
C
C
This
has
widespread
support
from
the
community
of
new
americans,
and
it
was
also
one
of
our
priorities
to
be
able
to
create
something
within
city
government
that
recognized
the
importance
of
having
somewhere
for
people
who
are
new
to
our
city
to
go.
We
never
had
that
before
we
made
it
a
priority,
and
over
the
past
10
years
we've
been
able
to
increase
our
latino
community
by
over
30
percent
and
increase
our
asian
community
by
over
40
percent.
C
Was
that
directly
because
we
had
this
office,
but
having
this
office
proved
to
be
necessary,
as
we
saw
those
types
of
increases
happening,
and
I
believe
that
over
the
course
of
the
next
10
years
we'll
see
those
numbers
double.
So
we
need
to
continue
to
have
something,
but
it
may
not
be
the
priority
of
the
next
administration,
so
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
give
them
the
flexibility
to
have
the
entire
budget
for
what
they
consider
to
be
their
priorities,
but
not
lose
this
in
the
process.
D
Councilman
to
answer
your
question:
if
council
were
to
approve
the
new
office,
our
plan
was
to
introduce
a
budget
amendment
that
shifted
the
two
positions
that
currently
work
with
the
immigrant
new
american
population
into
the
office.
So
it'd
be
a
budget
neutral
budget
amendment.
It
would
just
be
a
re-shifting
of
the
existing
two
positions
under
a
new
title.
E
Hispanic
development
corporation,
you
were
on
the
first
slide
of
the
founding
of
the
development
corporation.
They
had
you
on
there
and
I
any
he
said
this
story
of.
Like
I
don't
know,
I
guess
you
you
had
mentioned
back
when
you
were.
You
know,
council
person,
that
you
know
there
was
a
need,
and
so
anyway
just
interesting
part
of
history.
C
As
you
know,
bill
is
gee
or
william
is
guillermo.
So
he's
my
fellow
guillermo,
as
I
often
say,
yeah
he's
a.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
apologize
well
we're
trying
to
get
through
this
virtual
meeting,
we're
not
sure
which
members
are
online,
but
I
do
know
councilwoman
strasberger
has
joined
us.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
her.
She
has
any
questions.
F
Thank
you,
madam
president,
thank
you
to
the
mayor
and
chief
of
staff
gilman
and
chief
powell
for
being
here
as
well.
I
really
just
have
one
clarifying
question
as
well,
and
that
is
about
well.
F
I
guess
I
heard
mayor
what
you
said
about
leaving
some
flexibility
for
the
incoming
administration,
and
I
wondered
if
you
could
speak
to
the
office
of
community
affairs
and
whether
that
is
part
of
building
in
or
leaving
some
level
of
flexibility,
and
I
guess
were
were
those
positions
that
were
previously
allocated
in
this
past
year's
budget,
replaced
in
some
way
or
allocated
just
in
a
different
way
into
different
departments
or
into
different
offices.
C
Sure,
when
we
came
in,
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
create
a
non-political,
basically
a
field
organization
that
would
be
part
of
the
planning
department
that
would
report
back
to
both
council
and
our
office
in
understanding.
C
Presently
we
don't
have
anybody
in
that
office,
and
this
was
one
of
those
things
that
we
have
been
working
with
the
incoming
administration
to
see
how
they
want
to
be
able
to
put
together
their
own
version
of
an
oca
I'll
go
to
chief
gilman
with
the
numbers
and
what
they're
looking
like
is
we're
approaching
this
as
a
budgetary
issue.
D
Yes,
council
person,
strasbourg,
the
position:
it's
been
split
up
a
bit
as
the
mayor
noted.
These
were
all
city
planning
positions.
One
position
is
in
the
city
planning
budget,
and
that
is
the
employee
who
will
work
heavily
with
community
engagement
in
the
engage
pgh
website.
That
position
is
currently
filled
by
leah
friedman,
that
is
a
budget
neutral
amendment,
just
a
title:
change
within
city
planning.
She
stays
in
city
planning
at
the
same
salary,
plus
the
cost
of
living.
D
There's
another
position
that
currently
is
sold
by
giselle
b
dance
who
moved
to
public
works.
She
does
the
work
around
love,
your
block,
snow
angels,
city
cups,
and
we
really
felt
that
that
was
more.
They
really
were
working
more
with
public
works
and
city
planning,
because
of
that
you
know,
snow
angels
and
and
city
cuts,
and
all
that
is
more
fitting
there
again.
D
That
was
a
budget
neutral
amendment,
just
a
shift
in
departments
in
title
and,
unfortunately,
the
other
two
positions,
because
they
were
vacant,
are
positions
that
we
hadn't
filled
and
got
eliminated
with
some
of
the
cost
savings
due
to
covid
budget
revenues.
So
at
the
moment
we
only
have
the
two
of
the
four.
F
Okay,
that
answers
my
questions
and
that's
really
all
I
had
other
than
that.
I
just
wanted
to
again.
You
know
reiterate
what
I
said
at
mayor
your
budget
address
and
thank
you
for
eight
years
of
incredible
progress,
and
I
mean
anyone
who
wants
to
learn
what
all
has
been
accomplished
during
your
terms
can
read
the
budget
and
it's
right
there
in
the
first
few
pages
of
operating
in
the
capital
budgets
as
well.
So
thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
councilwoman.
What
we
are
trying
to
do
with
this
budget
is
to
give
the
next
administration
as
much
flexibility
as
we
can
to
allow
them
to
be
able
to
create
what
we
were
able
to
do,
which
is
a
budget
that
is
reflective
of
their
priorities.
C
So
there's
a
lot
of
room
and
what
I
expect
is
that
come
january
there
probably
will
be
amendments
made
to
this
budget
that
will
be
more
reflective
of
a
new
administration,
and
should
there
not
be
there
is
enough
room
for
them
to
be
able
to
go
through
a
first
year
and
be
able
to
create
some
different
positions
under
the
titles
that
are
there
and
then
to
be
able
to
present
a
budget
next
september
to
you
working
with
council
that
will
be
able
to
adapt
very
very
easily
into
a
different
budget
with
new
priorities.
F
A
I've
also
been
told
that
councilman,
lavelle
and
councilman
krause
is
on
so
we'll
also
go
with
councilman
lavelle.
H
Am,
madam
president,
thank
you
good
morning.
Everyone
good
morning
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
a
moment
to
thank
you
for
your
years
of
service.
H
I've
kind
of
lost
track
of
the
the
number
of
them,
but
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
certainly
am
a
better
person
for
having
got
to
know
you
to
serve
with
you
and
beside
you,
and
you
will
be
greatly
missed,
and
I
thank
you
for
for
your
time
and
your
dedication
to
the
city
and
all
that
you
have
brought
and
wish
you
godspeed
and
all
the
very
best
life
has
to
offer
as
you
as
you
exit
and
continue
in
public
service.
C
Very
much
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
for
the
record.
I
first
came
to
work
in
city
hall
in
1990
for
mayor
sophie
maslow,
and
I
worked
in
the
department
of
finance
for
one
year.
C
Yeah
dan
cohen,
I
sort
of
served
between
those
two
dans
but
to
dan
cohen,
and
I
I
will
have
served
in
city
government
through
that
era
of
95,
until
2022.
C
So
yeah
27
years
plus
one
was
my
time
in
city
government
and
it
is
a
very,
very,
very
different
city
than
when
I
first
came
here
in
1995.
C
and
to
those
who
have
been
around
over
these
past
10
years.
It's
a
very
different
city
and
I
think
that
you
can
look
at
every
single
neighborhood
within
the
city.
If
you've
been
here
for
10
years
and
be
able
to
say
with
pride,
we
have
done
good
work
and
you
can
certainly
look
at
a
city
as
a
whole
and
no
matter
what
the
indicator
is.
C
If
it's
public
safety
or
if
it's
finance
or
if
it's
just
the
overall
health
of
the
city
and
be
able
to
say
over
these
past
10
years,
we
have
been
successful
in
building
a
better
city.
So
councilman,
it's
been
an
honor
to
serve
with
you
shoulder
to
shoulder
over
these
many
years
and
making
neighborhoods
better
and
over
the
total
sum
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
making
this
city
a
better
place
for
those
to
call
it
home.
H
Well,
maybe
I
would
like
to
add
one
more
thing
if
I've
made,
madam
president,
that
that
mayor
peduto
brought
a
level
of
integrity
to
the
office
that
that
was
greatly
appreciated.
We
we,
as
members
of
council
and
and
by
having
the
privilege
to
serve
as
president
for
a
period
of
six
years
during
the
peduto
administration.
H
You
know
we
we
we
work
collectively
and
we
worked
honestly.
We
differed
in
opinions
at
time,
but
always
always
dealt
with
those
differences.
As
ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
did
it
respectfully
and
we
always
did
it
with
the
best
interest
of
this
city
at
heart,
and
there
was
always
room
for
disagreement
and
there
was
always
room
for
compromise
and,
as
the
mayor
had
stated
in
his
public
address
in
the
in
the
time
that
he
had
been
in
office,
I
believe
mayor.
You
said
we
had
one
vote.
H
That
was
five
four
and
every
other
vote
was
eight
one
or
nine
zero,
and
that
speaks
that
speaks
loudly
to
the
to
the
ability
of
of
local
government
to
function
with
integrity
and
honesty
and
compromise,
and
with
a
focus
on
the
the
city
that
we
have
the
privilege
to
serve
and
always
acting
in
its
best
interest.
And
that
was
largely
due
to
the
to
the
experience
and
the
leadership,
integrity
and
honesty
that
mayor
peduto
brought
to
that
office.
C
But
I
think
that
that's
where
council
can
have
a
very
strong
role
with
the
next
administration
of
saying
work
with
us.
We
represent
nine
different
parts
of
the
city
that
combine
make
the
total
city.
Not
every
neighborhood
is
going
to
have
the
same
viewpoint.
You
work
with
us.
We
build
stronger
legislation.
C
C
But
let
me
put
this
up
here.
We
hear
and
we
heard
your
voices
loud
and
clear
about
the
colonels
and
we
know
that
that
vote
is
not
going
to
pass
counsel.
So
I
met
with
the
council
president
she's
been
meeting
with
council
and
I
am
sure
that
we'll
work
out
a
compromise
with
you
that
will
hear
the
voice
of
counsel
and
your
constituents
in
order
to
be
able
to
address
that
issue
in
a
way
that
will
have
your
voice
heard.
A
H
Madam
president,
just
one
last
one
last
thing,
if
I
may,
but
just
one
last
thing
if
I
made.
Madam
president,
the
you
know,
having
had
the
mayor
serve
on
city
council
for
the
number
of
terms
that
he
did.
I
I
think
that
brought
a
level
of
understanding
a
compassion
for
the
work
that
we
do
and
the
difficulty
it
it
can
bring
at
times
and
and
and
with
that,
I
I
believe
it.
H
It
brought
experience
in
the
mayor's
office
to
to
understand
that
we
are
partners
in
this
that
there
there
are
elected
11
electeds
here
in
the
city,
including
council
of
the
mayor's
office
and
the
controllers
office,
and
that
and
that
we
accomplish
more
collectively
than
we
do
leading
from
a
space
of
division.
H
And
I
think
the
the
mayor's
time
on
council
brought
that
level
of
understanding
and
compassion
that
that
really
assisted
us
in
being
able
to
work
collectively
and
cooperatively,
and
I
believe
the
city
is
a
better
place.
Because
of
it.
And
again
I
I
just.
I
wish
the
mayor
godspeed
and
all
the
the
success
that
life
can
bring
as
he
enters
into
this
new
phase
of
public
service,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Madam
president,.
A
Thank
you,
councilman.
Thank
you
for
your
really
great
words,
and
so
now
I
think
it's
my
time
and
I
just
want
to
there's
a
few
things
I
do
want
to
say.
I
want
to
thank
you,
first
of
all,
for
always
working
with
us
in
a
way
that's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
through
this
whole
thing
through
this
whole
time.
A
This
thing
you
keep
saying
to
me
over
and
over
again
is
we
have
to
do
what's
in
the
best
interests
of
pittsburgh
and
the
pittsburgh
residents,
and
that
really
resonates
with
me
because
you
say
it
at
a
time
when
you
could
walk
away
and
just
not
care
about
what
happened.
But
it's
it.
It's
who
you
are.
You
have
cared
about
pittsburgh
so
much
and
has
done
so
much
and
you
hired
a
team
that
has
brought
amazing
things
to
the
city
and
I'll
be
honest.
A
You
know
you
and
I
at
first
I
didn't
think
we
would
ever
gonna
work
together,
but
my
gosh,
I
mean
you
really
showed
us
how
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
was
so
respectful
and
so
kind,
and
I
I
want
people
to
realize
that
I've
heard
all
these
stories
about
how
vindictive
you
would
be,
and
all
this
I've
never
seen
that,
and
I
just
told
somebody
that
the
other
day
I
have
never
seen
that
I
have
seen
kindness
I've
seen
you
say,
we'll
figure
it
out.
Don't
worry,
we'll
work
it
out.
A
So
you
have
a
team
that
brings
all
their
special
talents
and
together
it
just
worked
really
well,
but
mostly
what
I
appreciated
was
that
you
cared
about
pittsburgh
and
the
pittsburgh
residents
from
day
one
and
even
as
you're
preparing
to
go
on
to
the
next
phase
of
your
life,
you're,
always
putting
the
pittsburgh
and
pittsburgh
residents
first.
So
I
I
really
appreciate
that,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
getting
to
have
this
working
relationship
with
you
that
I
never
thought
we
would
have,
and
it's
not
what
I
had
heard.
A
It's
not
what
I
had
thought
it
was
going
to
be
you're
negotiating
with
council.
Your
respect
for
council
has
been
really
tremendous
and
appreciated,
and
I've
talked
to
people
with
the
current.
You
know
with,
for
the
future
administration,
about
ways
to
work
with
council
was
to
work
with
us
as
a
whole,
as
you
have
to
work
with
us
with
the
leadership
to
you
know,
work
with
us
not
through
the
media,
not
through.
If
you
know,
there's
one
thing
that
I
never
would
vote
for.
A
A
We
should
be
able
to
work
together
and
talk
with
one
another
and
and
that's
what
we
did
and
you
did
that
with
every
one
of
us,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
being
a
mayor
who
cares
about
pittsburgh,
but
who
cares
and
respects
council
and
got
us
all
to
work
together
for
the
betterment
of
the
entire
city
and
hiring
a
staff
that
is
so
talented
and
so
amazing
and
worked
so
hard.
A
I
can't
even
imagine
how
hard
and
the
time
that
they
how
hard
it
was
for
you
all
to
work
for
pittsburgh
at
times,
because
the
social
media
has
really
grown
since
I
was
first
elected
and
in
a
way
that
people
think
that's
the
way
to
govern
us
by
what
they're
saying
next
on
the
next
tweet
or
something
like
that
and
it's
I
just
feel
like
that's
not
the
way
to
cover
that's,
not
the
way
to
do
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
pittsburgh.
A
If
you
want
to
do
what's
right
for
pittsburgh,
you
have
to
do
what's
right
for
pittsburgh
and
you
have
to
listen
to
constituents
in
a
way
that
you
can
bring
some
some
compromise,
and
I
think
that
we're
in
a
bad
time
in
in
this
country,
where
we're
so
divided
and
pittsburgh's
no
different.
But
I
think
through
that
all
you
have
to
stay
focused
on
what's
best
for
pittsburgh,
and
I
think
you've
done
that-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
very
much.
C
Or
else
you
know
you're,
not,
I
don't
know
what
the
term
would
be
in
today's
vernacular,
but
you're
not
true.
That's
not
the
way
the
world
is.
That
is
not
the
way
politics
should
ever
be.
C
Other
than
government
should
be
utilized
as
a
service
to
uplift,
and
I
just
give
credit
to
anybody
who
can
stay
in
it
while
the
poison
is
in
the
well-
and
I
think
that
after
27
years
here
and
a
few
more
years
after
you
know,
in
addition
to
that,
in
the
political
realm
of
western
pennsylvania
and
others
over
30
years
in
this,
it
starts
to
wear
on
you
and
in
this
type
of
acidic
world.
It
tears
into
you-
and
I
think
I
have
more
to
give.
C
But
it
is
not
in
this
type
of
an
atmosphere
and
in
this
type
of
of
work,
so
I'll
find
what
what
did
chuck
know
say
my
life's
work
and
where
that
will
be.
But
I
don't
look
back
with
any
regret
on
over
three
decades
of
the
work
that
I
have
done
and
I
certainly
can
see
in
corners
and
in
areas
and
in
different
parts
of
the
city,
my
fingerprints,
in
a
better
pittsburgh.
So
I
will
be
able
to
see
that
for
decades
to
come
and
in
improvements
for
people's
lives.
A
I
think
they
need
to
stop
complaining
and
come
out
and
vote
the
people
that
you
know
say
that
they
don't
like
some
of
the
things
that
are
happening,
but
yet
they
don't
come
out
to
vote
so
I'll
just
say:
I'm
just
going
to
keep
focusing
on
that
part.
Moving
forward,
I'm
going
to
focus
on
getting
more
people
who
care
about
the
city
or
about
our
district
in
other
places
in
the
country
to
come
out
and
vote
more.
That's
what
I'm
going
to
start
doing.
More
of.
A
I
think
that
that's
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
because
that's
what's
going
to
drive
all
the
elections
and
and
whatever
the
agendas
are
going
forward.
So
with
that
said,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
your
staff
for
everything
that
they
have
done
and
everything
you
have
done
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
There's
whether
we
agree
or
disagree,
there's
always
been
respect
and
there's
always
a
phone
call
away.
I
mean
just
a
phone
call
away.
I
I
didn't.
I
barely
even
knew
lindsay.
I
just
wanted
to.
A
I
barely
even
knew
you
and
then,
when
you
started
doing
all
this
food
stuff,
I
was
like
she's
amazing
you're.
Just
amazing,
you
really
did
a
lot
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
get
us
through
the
pandemic
and
dan
gilman.
I
think
if
your
wife
doesn't
see
my
number
again,
she'll
probably
be
so
thankful.
A
When
you
see
the
lights
on
the
city,
county
building
and
people
talk
about
how
the
building
is
lit
up
and
how
it
celebrates
in
in
and
honors
so
many
different
events
and
dates
and
important
things
to
city
of
pittsburgh.
That's
james
james
did
that
and
james
did
the
also
say
that
james
did
the
fireworks
off
the
city
county
building
was
his
idea,
not
not
that
he
did
it,
but
so
I
want
to
thank.
A
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
things
that
you
did
to
bring
pittsburgh
the
history
the
and
to
keep
that
richness
and
the
banners
up
on
grandview
avenue
and
all
those
things
that
you
did.
I
want
to
thank
you
also
for
all
that
stuff,
because
believe
me,
it
really
meant
a
lot
well,
everybody
else
is
doing
things
like
getting
in
the
weeds
of
things.
You
were
doing
things
that
made
us.
Remember
not
forget
things
that
we
should
be
celebrating.
So
thank
you,
james,
for
all
that
you've
done.
D
A
And
mayor
peduto,
just
thank
you
just
thank
you
very
much
for
your
for
serving
for
putting
up
with
a
lot,
but
also
for
giving
so
much
and
during
a
time
when
I
know
that
you
were
you
lost
a
brother,
you
lost
your
mother.
You
lost
another
brother.
It
was.
You
were
going
through
a
very
painful
challenging
time
personally,
but
yet
you
kept
pittsburghers
and
pittsburgh
pittsburgh's
best
interest
in
the
front
forefront.
A
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
that
you've,
given
up
with
that
said,
we're
going
to
start
with
councilman
lavelle
reverend
burgess
joined
us.
I
apologize
reverend
burgess.
Do
you
have
something
you'd
like
to
say.
I
Well,
a
couple
quick
things.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
obviously
thank
the
mayor
for
his
leadership.
I
did
hear
I
was
listening
before
I
got
on
and
bill
we've
had
good
times.
You
know.
I
It's
been
fun
right,
we've.
You
know,
I
learned
my
craft
from
you
and
doug
really,
you
know
doug
put
me
under
his
wing
and
it's
really
you
know
you're
not
going
out.
It
actually
taught
me
about
counsel.
You
had
the
institutional
knowledge.
I
I
had
nothing
and
I
had
to
you
know:
do
all
this
research
and
figure
it
out
late
at
night
to
kind
of
argue
with
you
and
it
actually
taught
me
to
be
a
counsel
person,
and
then
you
know
we
start
working
together
and
I
think
we've
done
some
great
things
from
you
know.
Group
violence
stuff
to
you
know
just
that.
You
know
alarm
of
choice,
economic
development,
all
kinds
of
avenues
of
hope,
we've
just
you
know,
been
able
to
do
great
things
together.
I
I
appreciate
that
I
appreciate
you,
you
will
go
down,
I
believe
is
one
of
the
greatest
mayors
of
our
city.
Sometimes
history
is
kinder
to
us
than
the
moment
and
I
think
after
some
time,
history
is
going
to
revel
in
your
accomplishments.
I
am
grateful.
One
of
the
things
about
that
has
happened
is
dan
and
I
have
become
good
friends.
Lifelong
friends,
I
am
I'm
proud
that
he
is
my
my
friend
and
grateful
for
the
friendship
really
and
the
encouragement
on.
I
Even
on
the
personal
note,
I
have
a
tendency
to
want
to
go
off
the
deep
end.
He's
been
a
calming
force.
The
interesting
part
I
listen
to
you
about
the
a
little.
Also
listen
to
you
about
the
the
political
atmosphere.
You
know,
I've
been
I've
been
a
pastor
for
30.
I've
been
preaching
for
40
years,
pastoring
for
37
years
in
40
years.
I've
never
had
a
member.
Tell
me,
don't
be
a
pastor.
I
I've
been
teaching
college
since
1979
and
all
those
years
I've
never
had
a
student.
Tell
me,
don't
be
a
professor,
don't
teach
right,
you
know
I've.
I've
been
a
father,
you
know
a
four
married
for
37
years.
You
know
father
30
30.
What
34
years
my
children
never
said.
Dad
don't
be
a
father.
My
wife
never
told
me,
don't
be
a
husband.
My
deacons
didn't
tell
me,
stop
being
a
pastor,
but
for
the
first
time
I
have
people
telling
me
don't
be
a
councilman.
I
Don't
do
your
job
as
councilman
right?
We
we
don't
want
you
to
do
your
job
as
councilman,
we'll
tell
you
what
you
should
do
or
you
know,
but
if
you
do
your
job,
we'll
never
support
you
again.
If
you
don't
do
exactly
what
we
say,
it's
the
oddest
thing
right,
it's
the
oddest
thing,
and
so
I'm
not
built
that
way.
I
As
you
know,
I'm
not
built
that
way,
and
so
I'm
going
to
do
my
job
until
my
last
day
in
office.
I
appreciate
the
time
and
I
and
I
looking
back
on
it,
didn't
appreciate
it.
Then
the
time
you
and
doug
spent
teaching
me
how
to
be
a
council
person
and
the
rules
of
council
and
all
the
newer
new
nuances
of
our
city
government.
The
other
thing
is
and
the
time
I
have
left,
who
knows
what
that
is.
There
are
some
signature
programs.
I
I
will
do
all
of
my
power
to
fulfill
evidence
of
hope
is
one
of
them.
I
think
the
office
of
community
safety,
along
with
the
val
you
know
the
the
public
safety
offices.
I
think
those
things
have
to
be
completed.
They
are
still
in
their
infancy
in
some
ways
and
we
have
to
as
a
as
a
council
complete
it
and
then.
I
Lastly,
I
think
we
should
do
another
two
or
three
more
hope:
choice,
home
things,
a
couple
of
choice,
home
things
used
to
be
hope,
six,
but
now
choice.
I
hope
we
should.
We
should
do
a
couple
more
of
those
those
choice,
things,
but
I
say
all
that
to
say
we
wouldn't
have
got
the
first
one
without
you
and
your
leadership
and
the
choice
in
larmor
is
the
best
choice
in
the
country.
I
I
didn't
say
that
hud
said
it:
they
bring
people
from
around
the
country
who
want
to
do
it
to
pittsburgh
to
show
them
what
it's
supposed
to
look
like,
and
so
you've
done
things
that
still
have
national
impact,
and
I
I
have
no
doubt
you
will
continue
to
serve
right.
You
just
do
a
young
man.
You'll
continue
to
serve,
and
you
still
have
my
friendship
and
my
support,
and
we
can,
you
know,
still
do
things
together.
I
I
think
that
you
know
sometimes
being
right
is
still
being
right,
and
so
you
know
on
the
things
that
we're
right
about.
I
intend
to
still
pursue
them
still
argue.
So
it's
a
long
way
of
saying.
I
appreciate
you,
you
have
tre,
you
have
you
know
my
my
daughter,
you
know
sings
wicked
a
lot,
my
daughter's
a
a
singer
and
and
her
and
my
niece
when
she
was
living
with
me.
They
would
sing
wicked.
You
know
and
there's
a
song
in
wicked
about
you
know
about.
I
C
Than
you'll
still
see
me
around
in
homewood
and
I'm
getting
ready
and
looking
forward
to
coaching
the
westinghouse
men's
hockey
team.
A
Just
kidding
they
came
fast
story
rob
anyway,
any
last
parting
words
from
anyone
mayor
no.
C
Get
on
my
horse
and
head
back
to
the
east
end,
but
thank
you,
and
if
there
are
any
other
questions
or
concerns
with
the
budget,
I
I
prefer
to
go
through
it.
The
way
that
we
have
gone
through
everything
else,
with
a
cup
of
coffee
in
my
office
and
working
through
and
finding
common
sense
solutions
and
working
through
to
find
what's
best
for
the
people
of
pittsburgh.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
always
having
an
opening
open
door.
Thank
you
and
with
that
said,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
hearing,
which
will
be
councilman
lavelle
the
office
of
equity
and
city
controller
and
councilman
laval.
I
don't
know,
do
you
want
to
recess,
or
do
you
want
to
go
right
into
it?.
A
Okay
and
councilman
laval
will
chair
the
next
portion
of
this
hearing.
Thank
you.
Councilman
thanks
guys.
B
B
Programs,
procedures
and
expenditures
to
make
pittsburgh
a
community
for
all
the
office
of
equity
works
to
see
a
pittsburgh
where
all
city
residents
have
access
to
the
opportunities
necessary
to
satisfy
their
essential
needs,
advance
their
well-being
and
achieve
their
full
potential,
where
social
economic
outcomes
cannot
be
projected
based
upon
race,
gender,
age
or
sexual
orientation.
B
The
former
equal
opportunity
review
commission
is
now
housed
within
the
office
of
equity
from
a
budgetary
perspective
this
year
the
total
budget
will
be
one
million
six
hundred
and
fifty
seven
thousand
three
hundred
forty
nine
dollars.
It's
an
increase
of
a
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
dollars
or
thirteen
percent
from
the
2021
budget.
B
Total
full-time
positions
are
listed
at
14..
There
is
a
single
proposed
change
to
staffing
levels
by
adding
a
part-time,
lgbtqia
plus
commission
staffer
for
forty
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty
dollars,
non-salary
subclasses
increased
by
forty
thousand
five
hundred
and
twenty
five
dollars.
That's
fourteen
percent
those
highlights
there
include
professional
services
increasing
by
forty
two
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
additional
funding
for
the
lgbtqia
commission
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
an
updated
disparity
study.
Operational
supplies
increased
by
five
thousand
dollars.
B
Restoring
catering
for
public
meetings,
administrative
fees
are
decreased
by
seven
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
removing
funding
for
some
conferences
and
trainings.
The
ops
equity
does
not
oversee
any
trust,
funds,
grants
or
capital
projects
back
to
you,
councilman.
J
J
Certainly,
thank
you
councilman
really
quickly.
The
office
of
equity
since
its
inception
has
been
working
to
ensure
that
the
city
of
pittsburgh
utilizes
a
racial
equity
lens
on
what
we
do
not
just
from
hiring
but
from
our
programming
and
our
projects.
We've
been
working
really
closely
with
departments
to
embed
every
department
with
this
lens,
as
well
as
ensure
that,
across
the
city,
we're
utilizing
the
racial
equity
lens
to
make
our
city
more
livable
and
equitable.
J
Our
budget
this
year
is
pretty
straightforward,
as
bill
mentioned,
the
kind
of
biggest
difference
will
be
the
additional
part-time
staffer
for
the
lgbtqia
plus
commission.
The
commission
was
formed
last
year.
Officially
was
formerly
a
task
force,
meaning
that
it
was
really
all
hands
on
deck
situation,
on
trying
to
provide
some
of
the
policy
research
that
they
wanted,
as
well
as
the
admin
support.
It
was
a
responsibility
of
several
staff
members
within
the
office
of
equity,
rather
than
a
full-time
dedic,
or
no
worries,
rather
than
a
dedicated
staff
person.
J
To
do
this
overall
and
so
similar
to
how
the
gender
equity
commission
has
a
staffer.
As
well
as
the
welcoming
pittsburgh
initiative,
we
wanted
to
put
forward
to
council
to
consider
a
part-time
staffer
to
help
us
ensure
that
the
work
within
the
space
continues
that
they
have
again
a
dedicated
person
to
push
their
initiatives
and
programs
forward.
G
E
Thank
you,
councilman
lavelle.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
about
the
position.
B
J
E
E
Is
that
enough
to
like
undertake
the
no.
J
You
know
at
this
point
that
person
has
been
wonderful
in
trying
to
make
sure
that
all
the
complaints
that
come
through,
especially
with
kovid,
that
all
the
complaints
that
come
through
are
taken
care
of.
As
the
mayor
had
mentioned,
we
do
want
to
give
the
incoming
administration
the
flexibility
to
decide.
You
know
if
they'd
like
to
increase
that
work
by
providing
more
staffers,
but
at
the
moment
it
has
been
difficult,
but
josh
has
been
very
diligent
to
make
sure
that
responses
are
given
to
folks.
You
inquire
in
a
swift
manner.
I
Lindsay
you
know
also,
I
did
not
mention
you,
the
smart
person
over
in
the
mayor's
office,
but
obviously
you
are
I'm
very
fond
of
you.
You
know
that
I
have
great
great
respect
for
your
professionalism,
talent
and
intellect
I
just
have
really
right
now
how
many
in
the
office
of
equity,
how
many
now
today,
how
many
people
are
in
position
most
of
those
those
positions
are
vacant
right.
J
J
Six
staffers
myself,
elena
muhammad
oliver
beasley.
J
Might
be
less
than
six
actually
chuck,
durham
and
uposna
the
rest
of
the
positions
are
vacant.
I
Right
and
the
office
of
equity
is
really
a
creation
of
mayor
peduto
right,
yes,
and
so
you
know
it
functions
in
many
ways.
You
know
to
his
vision
and-
and
you
know,
and
so
the
new
mayor
will
have
a
chance
to
to
imprint
his
vision.
It
is
one
of
the
places
where
the
mayor's
staff
has
significantly
increased
over
the
years
right.
That's
when
you
look
at
the
mayor's
staff
from
the
previous
administrations.
I
The
office
of
equity
is
the
place
where
sort
of
new
staffers
were
brought
in,
and
you
know
an
increased
role
in
inquiry
office
which
did
pretty
good
and
so
but
right
now,
they're
they're,
not
that
you
know
those
positions
are
not
field,
mostly
so,
okay,
that's
all
for.
G
Me
thank
you.
I
see
councilman
krauss,
I'm
not
sure
if
he
has
any
questions
councilman
cross.
Are
you
still
with
us.
G
If
not,
I
do
have
one
question.
Well,
first,
director
power,
it's
been
a
privilege
to
work
with
you.
I
hope
to
certainly
be
able
to
continue
working
with
you
as
you
move
forward
in
your
career,
but
it's
certainly
been
a
pleasure
and
I
thank
you
for
all
the
tremendous
work
you've
done
on
behalf
of
the
city.
I
do
have
one
quick
question.
The
disparity
study
updated
updating,
a
disparity
study.
Do
you
know
where
that
stands.
J
Absolutely
so
councilman
the
disparity
study
we
put
in
additional
money
to
do
a
kind
of
preliminary
study.
The
disparity
study,
as
you
know,
would
probably
necessitate
upwards
of
us,
maybe
in.
In
my
estimation,
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
we've
been
working
with
a
provider
through
an
rfp
process
who
was
just
selected
to
kind
of
help.
J
Us
prime
the
city
for
what
a
full-on
disparity
study
would
look
like
in
order
for
us
to
ensure
that
we
are
able
to
update
our
mwbe
goals
and
we
need
to
have
an
updated
disparity
study
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
that.
Largely
you
know,
for
the
cost
of
said
disparity
study.
So
in
order
to
prime
ourselves,
if
that's
the
direction
we'd
like
to
continue
to
move
in
giving
ourselves
again
a
new
disparity
study,
we
wanted
to
fund
a
kind
of
preliminary
study
so
that
we
are
readying
ourselves
for
the
full
thing.
I
I
know
I'm
not
sure
where
I'm
not
sure
when
it
is
on
the
budget
hearing,
but
you
and
I
because
you're
you
know
the
public
doesn't
know
that
many
of
the
mayor's
initiatives
you
are
actually
the
creator
thereof.
You
know
you
are
the.
You
know
the
creative
genius
on
that
side
of
the
floor.
We
as
council
know
that,
but
the
public
does
not
know
that,
and
so
the
reason
I'm
asking
you
know
equity,
I
mean
a
question
sometimes
to
lindsay
that
may
not
be
directly
related
to
equity.
I
Is
that
she
helped
create
lots
of
stuff.
That's
over
in
the
mayor's
office.
Have
her
her
dna
on
it,
her
fingerprints
on
it.
There
has
been
some,
and
I
don't
know,
maybe
I'm
not
sure
when
the
hearing
for
it
is,
but
since
you're
here
I'm
here,
we
have
a
minute.
I
wanted
to
sort
of
ask
you
off.
Subject
a
little
bit,
there's
been
some
talk,
I've
talked
about
it.
I've
talked
to
laura
about
it.
I
You
know
talked
to
dan
about
it
and
I'm
just
curious
your
thoughts
about,
perhaps
in
next
year
of
merging
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
with
the
in
the
in
the
public
safety
office
versus
leaving
it
out
there
sort
of
you
know
on
its
own.
Do
you
have
any
that
and-
and
you
know
the
advantage
of
course
with
you
know
the
social
workers
would
then
we
could
probably
get
them
the
ability
to
look
at
police
records
eventually
and
stuff.
J
Thank
you
for
the
question
councilman.
I
can
only
speak
from
my
perspective.
Obviously,
public
safety
and
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
may
have
some
other
ideas
and
obviously
with
the
incoming
administration
and
how
they
would
like
to
structure
this
in
these
initiatives,
I
would
want
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
again
that
they
have
their
say,
but
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of.
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
pros
to
having
them
separate
a
lot
of.
J
It
comes
from
the
I
think,
personally,
the
public
perception
of
having
a
community
health
and
safety
division
that
is
separate
from
public
safety,
so
that,
when
you
are
engaging
with
constituents
and
people
who
may
need
help
the
idea
that
this
is
an
entity
that
lives
entirely
outside
of
the
bureau
is
is
one
perspective
to
have,
but
I
do
also
want
to
recognize
the
challenges
that
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
would
have
if
it
remains
separate.
A
lot
of
there
are
a
lot
of
concerns
about
information
sharing.
J
So
if
you
want
to
build
a
model
where
social
workers
are
riding
in
cars,
with
officers
sharing
information,
I
believe
that
there
would
be
some
information
sharing
concerns
that
if
you
are
again
a
separate
entity
of
the
bureau,
they
may
not
be
able
to
share.
You
know
relevant
information
about
a
a
constituent
who
is,
you
know,
trying
to
engage
in
those
services.
So
I
would
say
largely.
J
I
Yeah,
because
I
have
this
laser-like
focus
on
gun
violence
and
on
on
gun
violence,
which
has
been
in
many
ways.
I
Describe
my
career
in
order
for
the
group
violence
system
to
actually
really
really
work
and
for
those
social
workers
to
be
effective
in
terms
of
call-ins
in
terms
of
providing
social
work,
providing
social
work
resources
to
those
most
at
risk
in
intervention
programs.
I
I
think
it
is
really
important
really
important
that
they're
on
the
grounds
with
all
the
information
and
be
able
to
pull,
be
able
to
use
every
data
information
every
program,
every
lever
to
move
those
likely
at
risk
individuals
from
a
life
of
of
dangerous
things
into
a
different
life,
and
so
that's
sort
of
because
I'm
kind
of
narrowly
focused,
you
know,
I'm
less
focused
on
public
perception,
I'm
like
laser-like
focused
and
that
component
has
been
missing,
has
always
been
missing
from
group
violence
because
we've
never
wanted
to
fund
it
completely.
I
I
I
guess
I'm
starting
already
now
that
it
be
moved
underneath
public
safety,
so
the
coordination
would
be
complete
so
that
you
have
the
gbi
workers
working
hand-in-hand
with
the
social
workers
which
we
know
is
necessary
for
the
mall
to
work
right
and
providing
adequate
services
and
to
those
families
an
alternative
to
life
of
crime,
and
I
don't
think
no,
I
know
it
won't
be
as
effective
unless
it
is,
it
is
coupled
inherently
in
that
way,
and
so
so
I
just
wanted
to
I
just
wanted.
I
I
said
this
moment
that
thought's
been
on
my
mind
for
like
the
last
two
or
three
weeks.
You
know
I've
been
talking
privately
about
it
and
you
know
you're.
You
have
in
many
ways
helped
create
the
office
and
and
as
part
of
the
many
things
that,
if
you're
your
legacy
to
the
city
and-
and
I
hope
in
some
way
I'm
put
on
my
my
prophetic
hat-
I
I
hope
in
some
way
the
future
has
you
serving
our
cities
more.
I
I
think
we
could
be
greatly
greatly
greatly
helped
sometime
in
the
future,
by
your
participation
in
city
government.
So
we'll
talk
more
about
it.
That's
kind
of
my
thoughts.
Thank
you.
Miss
chair.
G
Thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
you
asking
director
powell,
the
question
I
think
her
perspective
actually
matters
because
I'm
with
you
and
that
I
generally
think
it
should
be
within
public
safety.
However,
I
think
part
of
what
I
heard
her
sort
of
speaking
towards
was
part
of
the
idea
behind.
This
was
also
public
trust
in
building
public
trust,
and
so,
even
as
you
move
to
potentially
put
it
within
public
safety
building,
the
level
of
public
trust
necessary
for
it
to
be.
There
is
critical.
G
I
just
don't
think
we
can
lose
that
point
that
she
sort
of
articulated.
So
thank
you.
If
there
are
no
further
members
with
questions,
we
can
let
ms
powell
go
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
office
of
the
controller.
A
B
It
is
the
job
of
the
city,
controller,
protects
city,
tax
dollars
from
waste
fraud
and
abuse
by
auditing,
all
city
government
related
expenditures,
the
controller
also
conducts
audits
of
all
city
departments
and
authorities
both
on
the
performance
level,
as
well
as
fiscal
and
provides
recommendations
to
both
council
and
the
residents
at
large.
B
The
changes
for
the
office
of
city
controller
this
year,
as
proposed
in
the
mayor's
budget
total
budget
4
three
thousand
one
hundred
eleven
dollars,
that's
an
increase
of
a
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
dollars
or
three
point.
Eight
percent
total
full-time
positions
will
remain
at
57
same
as
many
of
the
prior
years.
There
are
also
no
changes
to
non-salary
subclasses
and
only
one
minor
change
to
staff
salaries.
B
A
clerk
ii
was
promoted
from
an
18d
to
an
18e.
An
increase
of
2
365
city
controller
has
a
couple
trust
funds,
employee
travel,
expense,
advance
fund.
That's
the
revolving
fund
of
30
000.
Current
balance.
As
of
last
week,
was
nineteen
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
a
vending
trust
fund.
The
controller
has,
it
was
actually
closed,
but
still
has
a
small
balance
of
seventeen
hundred
dollars,
as
well
as
the
controller's
fiscal
management
information
system.
G
Thank
you,
controller
lamb.
Is
there
anything
you
would
like
to
add.
K
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
for
the
opportunity
today.
This
is
the
first
time
that
I've
been
in
council
with
our
not
so
new
deputy
controller
rachel
heisler
joined
our
office
in
january
of
this
year
and
has
done
great
work
in
helping
us
to
get
through,
what's
been
a
very
challenging
year
in
a
lot
of
ways,
but
we
were
able
to
continue
the
work
of
the
city.
K
We
were
able
to
timely
report
out
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report,
as
well
as
the
popular
annual
financial
report,
and
continue
to
maintain
all
of
our
our
web
access.
Our
our
digital
footprint,
all
of
the
work
that
we
do
around
transparency.
We
were
able
to
continue
to
do
that.
Work
as
well
as
the
day-to-day
work
of
accounts,
receivable
and
and
the
audits
that
we
do
in
2021
on
a
performance
audit
basis.
K
We
were
also
in
animal
care
and
control.
We
were,
we
did
an
audit
of
pittsburgh
community
television
and
we're
currently
dealing
with
the
issues
that
we
saw
with
tax
collection
in
the
finance
department
this
year.
So
those
are
the
performance
audits
that
we
have
completed
or
are
close
to
completing.
We
also
were
in
other
departments
on
a
fiscal
audit
basis.
We
were
in
parks
and
we
were
in
public
works.
K
We
did
a
fairly
substantial
fiscal
audit
at
the
schenley
ice
rink
earlier
this
year
and
then
the
annual
follow-up
report
for
our
fiscal
audits
that
we
do
every
year
and
the
annual
audit
of
tax
abatement
and
tax
increment
finance
programs,
as
well
as
the
the
typical
audit,
the
police
property
room
and
the
other,
the
other
things
that
we
do.
So
it
was
a.
K
It
was
a
successful
year,
though
a
challenging
year,
and
you
know
when
you
bring
in
a
new
deputy
in
a
situation
where
they
really
can't
see
the
employees
faces
every
day.
I
know
it
can
be
a
challenge
for
rachel,
but
she's
she's
done
a
fantastic
job.
I'll
just
tell
you
about
20
moving
into
2022.
K
K
We
do
have
a
concern
about
the
allotment
there,
because
if
you
look
at
that
allotment
on
the
arpa
funding,
you
know
330
some
million
dollars
and
there's
only
200
000,
set
aside
for
auditing
and
reporting.
That's
a
very,
very
small
percentage,
in
fact
that
200
000
will
likely
beaten
up
by
your
contract
with
mar
dussell.
But
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
work
in
the
finance
department
and
some
work
in
our
department.
K
That
could
also
be
charged
back
to
those
funds
and
we
would
suggest,
as
we
move
forward,
we
take
a
look
at
that
and
and
how
those
monies
can
be
redirected
to
pay
for
the
significant
regulatory
and
administrative
requirements
the
city's
gonna
have
to
go
through
and
in
tracking
and
reporting
those
funds,
but
our
individual
budget
for
our
department
bill
has
has
gone
over.
We
are
going
to
make
a
couple
minor
amendments.
I've
talked
to
bill
about
it
this
morning
on
on
some
salary
adjustments
in
the
office,
but
other
than
that.
G
Thank
you
so
questions
from
members.
A
Thank
you
thank
you
and
thank
you
controller
for
being
here
for
all
the
work
you
do
so
I
heard
you
mentioned
the
orb
of
funds.
Will
you
also
look
into
the
school
districts
arpa
funds
or
that
not
being
your
judge.
K
Yeah,
I
would
love
to,
I
think,
it's
beyond
our
our
jurisdiction
out
there.
That
would
actually
be
the
auditor
general's
role.
We
are
actually
putting
together
a
report
for
the
new
superintendent
on
some
concerns
we
have,
and
that
will
be
one
of
them
if
they
invite
me
in
certainly
we
would
do
it,
but
I
I
don't
have
the
authority
right
now
to
audit
those
funds
or
to
track
those
funds
we'll
do
the
best
we
can
do
just
based
on
the
invoicing
that
comes
through
so
we'll
keep
track
of
that
spending.
K
But
but,
as
far
as
an
overall
look,
I
think
we're
going
to
rely
on
the
audit
general
right
now
for
that,
unless
we
get
invited
in
by
the
district.
K
I
don't
know
I
mean
they
invited
us
in
the
last
year
to
look
at
their
technology
and
we
did
a
pretty
substantial.
We
did
a
quick
review
of
the
problems
they
were
having
in
technology
when
they
moved
to
remote
learning,
and
we
were
obviously
involved
out
there
in
in
some
of
the
issues
around
the
superintendent
last
year,
but,
like
I
said,
we
typically
do
not
other
than
doing
our
basic
auditing
of
invoices
and
the
artists
that
we
do
at
the
schools
themselves
for
the
activity,
funds
and
those
kind
of
things.
A
With
that
said
so
I
remember
when
I
was
first
elected,
I
asked
you
to
go
in
and
audit
the
school
district
and
and
you
did,
but
it
was
because
the
same
thing
that
you
have
to
be
in
somewhat
invited
in
and
I'm
not
sure
if
I
understand
that
process,
you
know
why
you
would
have
to
be
invited
in,
but
at
the
same
time
I
still
have
some
of
the
same
concerns
I
had
back
then,
and
I
think
they've
escalated
since
then
with
the
school
district
and-
and
I
think
that
with
our
arpa
funds,
I
think
we're
all
going
to
be
watching
what's
happening
with
them.
A
You
know,
I
think
we
all
have
some
concerns,
because
it
all
came
so
quickly
and
we
moved
to
get
them
into
the
you
know
to
get
the
help
for
a
lot
of
people
that
they
were
requesting
into
a
lot
of
different
places.
But
I
think
with
that
said
that
that
came
with
some
some
concerns
that
that
are
still
overlapping
and
outstanding.
A
So,
but
I
but
my
my
concerns
with
the
school
district
are
significant,
and
so
I
I'd
like
to
know
like
are
you
in
talks
with
the
auditor.
K
So
we
we
we,
we
have
similar
concerns
and
we
have.
We
actually
have
been
working
on
pulling
together
all
the
information
that
has
been
provided
to
our
office
over
the
last
two
years,
three
years
during
the
entire
investigation
by
the
state
ethics
commission
that
was
going
on
at
the
district
people
calling
in
with
concerns
they
had
issues
they
had.
We
we
are,
we
are.
K
We
are
putting
that
into
a
a
report
that
we
want
to
submit
and
and
meet
with
the
new
superintendent
just
to
go
over
those
concerns
that
have
been
raised,
pretty
sure
he's
aware
of
most
of
them,
but
we
do
have
some
recommendations
moving
forward
and
when
I
hear
that
the
school
district
is
suggesting
that
in
the
next
five
years,
they've
got
a
30
million
dollar
deficit
or
more
close
to
40
million
deficit.
K
That
raises
a
lot
of
red
flags
for
me,
and
so
you
know
we
we
want
to.
We
want
to
make
a
suggestion
to
them
that
they
take
a
a
serious
look
at
their
entire
financial
picture,
including
potentially
bringing
in
the
department
of
education
in
a
advisory
role
over
budget
matters
out
there
and
not
not
an
act,
47
situation
or
a
distressed
school
district
situation,
but
they
by
their
own
admission,
are
suggesting
a
very
substantial
deficit
in
the
next
few
years.
K
So
if
we
can
preempt
that
now
by
discussing
what
that
means
moving
forward,
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
do,
and
I
think
you
know
I'm
hoping
that
the
superintendent
and
the
board
will
be
receptive
to
that
suggestion.
A
I
hope
so
jim.
If
there's
anything
we
can
do
to
help
with
that.
Please
let
us
know.
I
just
think
that
that's
I
think
back
and
I
do
remember
the
auditor
general
when
jack
wagner
was
the
auditor
general
he
audited
patrick
reisha's
contract
when
he
was
the
superintendent
of.
I
can't
remember
what
schools
it
were.
It
was
at
the
time,
but
he
had
audited
that
contract
and
I
just
think
that
overall
there's
some
concerns
with
a
lot
of
the
superintendent
buyouts
that
are
occurring
and
we're
seeing
another.
A
K
I
mean
that's
been
our
attitude
on
everything,
whether
school
district
or
whether
it's
here
our
role
is
to
try
to
make
positive
recommendations
to
help
government
work
better,
and
so,
while
some
people
want
to
make
an
audit
an
adversarial
process,
that's
not
our
way.
I
mean
we
try
to
come
in
and
make,
as
you
know,
assess
the
situation,
compare
what
we're
doing
with
best
practices
and
make
recommendations
for
improvement.
That's
that's
our
goal
and
every
audit
that
we
do.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
ask
you
a
general
question
about
revenue.
What
what's
your
thoughts
on
the
future
revenues
but
in
particular
parking
especially.
K
Well,
this
is
the
problem
I
mean
this
is.
This
is
a
concern
that
I've
had
and
I've
raised
this
year
and-
and
so,
as
you
know,
we
meet
in
august
or
so
every
year
to
talk
about
whether
or
not
the
revenue
projections
are
reasonable.
K
I've
raised
some
questions
about
the
numbers
that
we're
operating
on
right
now
and
I
think
my
concerns
are
bearing
out
that
that
we
were
overly
optimistic
about
how
quickly
parking
would
return,
and
so
you
know
bill,
and
I
have
talked
about
it
and
we've
talked
about
it
with
director,
paulus
and
moving
forward.
We
are
gonna
need
to
dip
into
arpa
money
to
cover
those
those
losses.
K
Fortunately,
we've
had
some
other
categories
of
taxes
outperform
right.
So
this
year
you
see
a
big
outperformance
in
the
transfer
tax
as
an
example.
So
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
budget
isn't
as
effective
as
it
would
be.
But
but
when
you
look
at
these
these
revenues
that
rely
so
much
on
whether
it's
on
special
events
or
or
just
daily
commuting
like
parking
we're,
we
are
we're
we're
having
we're
gonna
struggle
and
I
think
we're
gonna
struggle
for
a
while.
K
You
know
when
you
look
at
what's
going
on
in
downtown
pittsburgh
right
now,
so
many
organizations,
large
organizations
are
still
at
a
work-at-home
model,
at
least
for
some
days
a
week.
So
you
know
typically
when
you
had
people
coming
in
four
or
five
days
a
week
and
now
they're
only
coming
in
one
or
two
days
a
week
that
has
a
dramatic
impact
on
parking
and
the
revenues
that
you
receive
from
parking.
So
it
is
a
it's
a
gen.
It's
a
real
concern
for
me
moving
forward.
K
I
do
think
that
a
lot
of
the
special
event
revenue
will
begin
to
come
back.
People
seem
comfortable
enough
going
to
steal
our
games
and
to
concerts.
K
You
know
we
had
a
very
large
concert
this
summer
that
sold
out
and
we've
had
steeler
games
where
people
don't
seem
all
that
concerned
about
being
in
big
spaces,
particularly
if
you're
outside.
K
Maybe
we
struggle
a
little
more
with
the
penguins,
because
it's
an
indoor
situation,
but
we
are
seeing
a
pretty
good
return
to
special
events,
so
that
will
drive
up
some
of
your
parking
revenue,
along
with
your
amusement
tax
revenue,
which
we
really
got
hit
badly.
E
And
just
for
clarity,
the
the
parking
taxes
all
cover
garages
right.
K
It's
parking
taxes
paid
on
all
the
garages
right,
so
it's
you
know,
and
it's
paid
at
surface
locks
where
there's
a
you
know
so,
like
a
special
event,
surface
lots,
it
gets
it
gets
paid
and
then
the
lots
around
the
arena
from
commuter
parking
it
gets
paid
there.
So,
but
again,
a
lot
of
that
is
also
really
requires
good
auditing,
too.
You
know,
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
auditing
we're
doing
of
those
lots.
These
days,
you
know
in
the
finance
department's.
K
One
of
the
suggestions
I
made
to
the
incoming
administration
is
that
they've
really
got
to
get
back
to
doing
audits
of
revenue
which
our
office
doesn't.
Do
we
don't
audit
revenue,
that's
the
treasurer
and
the
finance
department's
job
and
they
really
need
to
get
back
to
doing
more
significant
audits
on
revenue.
K
We
get
we
get
meter
revenue
we
do
get.
You
know
we
get
a
substantial,
better
revenue
from
meters
that
we
split
with
the
parking
authority
right,
but
there's
not
a
per
se
attacks
to
it.
Yeah,
especially
rolled
in.
E
Switching
gears
here,
the
other
question
I
had
was
just:
how
do
you
decide
what
department,
what
trust
fund
you're
going
to
audit?
Unless
you
know
unless
council
requests.
K
So
we
we
we
sit
down
and
we
go
through
first
off
we're
required
to
get
everywhere,
so
we
just
try
to
make
sure
we're
getting
everywhere.
We
have
in
this
city.
Is
it
set
up?
Well,
when
I
first
got
here,
we
had
two
major
departments.
We
had
public
safety,
we
had
public
works.
Public
works
now
has
been
broken
into
public
works
and
and
domi,
so
we
were
always
in
one.
We
were
always
either
in
public
safety
or
in
public
works,
if
not
in
both
all
the
time.
K
Even
though,
even
though
the
charter
requires
us
to
only
be
in
a
department
once
every
few
years,
we
never
leave
public
safety,
because
it's
such
a
major
part
of
what
we
do
and
and
the
bureaus
are
pretty
much
their
own
departments
in
in
in
boise.
So
we
so
we
move
through
those.
When
something
comes
up,
we
want
to
be
able
to
be
flexible
enough
to
go
so
we
don't.
We
don't
set
a.
We
don't
set
an
audit
schedule
in
stone.
K
We
have
a
rough
idea
of
what
we
want
to
do
in
a
given
year
and
then
and
but
with
the
flexibility,
to
do
something.
If
something
comes
up.
K
Obviously
we
knew
in
2021
we
had
a
big
problem
with
tax
collection
in
the
finance
bureau,
which
is
why
we
moved
into
that
bureau
right
away
when
that
when,
when,
when
those
problems
started,
getting
all
the
calls,
I'm
sure
you
were
getting
calls
like
everybody
else
about
people's
checks
not
getting
cash
so
so
we're
down
there
now
and
I
think
we're
going
to
come
out
with
some
good
recommendations
for
them.
Moving
forward.
E
K
Yeah,
it's
been
a
while,
like
I
said,
because
of
the
way
that
we're
around
the
the
the
public
safety
department
it's
time
for
us
to
be
at
ems,
so
we
haven't
been
in
ems
in
a
while
and
so
we'd
like
to
get
back
there.
We
still
do
you
know
it's
been
it's
hard
to
believe,
but
it's
as
long
as
it's
been
since
we've
been
to
pwsa.
I
mean
we're
at
pwsa
at
the
early
stages
of
this
new
model
where
they
have
the
puc
now.
K
So
we
haven't
been
back
to
look
at
that.
We'd
like
to
we'd
like
to
get
that
which,
which
leads
to
the
next
problem,
is
we
need
more
auditors?
You
know
we
need.
You
know
our
our
office
originally
was
72
employees
and
under
act
47
we're
dropped
now
to
52..
K
Friends
are
actually
trust,
funds
are
actually
in
better
shape
than
they
were
when
I
got
here
bill,
I
worked
with
bill
and
with
marty
ellicon
from
our
office
and
and
the
finance
department
to
eliminate
a
lot
of
trust
funds,
because
there
were
a
lot
of
trust
funds
that
there
was
just
no
activity,
but
it
still
required
us
to
audit
them
every
two
years.
So
we
we.
We
were
pretty
good
about
downsizing
that
now
we've
added
a
few
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
it's
gone
back
up
again,
but
yeah.
K
I
Yes,
I
have
a
couple
of
things
fir.
First
of
all,
controller
lamb.
You
know
the
greatest
theme
that
I
hold
you
in
and
I'm
grateful
for
your
leadership
and
your
friendship.
Now,
how
long
have
you
been
controller.
K
That's
right,
I
think
I
and
I
think
we
also
started
with
councilman
o'connor.
I
H
Councilman
o'connor
followed
councilman
shields.
I
You
have
been,
you
know,
extraordinarily
helpful
in
terms
of
crafting
fiscal
stuff
right
when
I've
been
involved.
You
know
a
couple
times
as
finance
chair,
you
know,
we've
done
some
safeguards
and
you
know
you're
as
active
as
we
asked
you
to
be
right
that
the
council
asked
you
to
participate
if
the
pension
save
you
are
extremely
active
you're.
I
You
know,
you've
been
active
when
we're
talking
about
capital,
budget
reform
and
so
and
then,
when
you're
not
asked
to
be
active
right,
you're,
not
I
mean
you're
active
in
doing
your
role,
but
you're
not
as
active
with
counsel
and
it
counts
as
ongoing
activity
unless
we
asked
you
right
and
so
I'm
going
to
at
least
suggest
well,
there
are
two
things
I
want
I
want
to.
I
guess
let
me
let
me
tell
you
the
first
one,
first
and
I'll
come
back
to
that.
I
One
of
the
the
two
issues
that
I
I
guess
I
want
to
chat
with
you
about
is
one
is:
is
wilkinsburg
right.
This
whole
idea
of
merging
wilkinsburg,
especially
merging
the
school
districts,
because
at
first
when
they
started
having
this
conversation,
there
was
a
belief
that
the
school
districts
wouldn't
have
to
be
merged.
I
But
then
we
later
found
out
that
if
the
government's
merged,
they
will
merge
both
the
governments
and
the
school
districts,
and
I
know
that
it
would
have
great
that
the
merger
would
have
great
financial
impact
on
the
school
district
taking
on
the
debt
and
the
buildings
of
wilkinsburg
to
a
organization.
That's
already
going
to
be
in
debt.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that.
K
So
I
I've
talked
about
this
merger
as
a
municipal
merger
and-
and
I
do
find
it
to
be
a
sound
decision
financially
from
both
sides.
The
the
question
over
the
school
district
is
an
interesting
one,
because
first
primarily
remember
that
all
the
kids
in
wilkinsburg,
from
6th
grade
to
12th
grade
are
already
in
the
pittsburgh
public
schools.
K
K
We,
I
know
that
I've
talked
to
a
couple
of
people
who
have
been
looking
at
this
issue.
They've
asked
me
to
take
a
look
at
their
findings
around
the
finance
finances
and
what
it
would
mean
to
the
pittsburgh
school
district.
So
I
don't
know
that
I'm
ready
to
say
anything
about
it
today,
but
I
will
be
weighing
in
on
what
I
think
the
financial
impact
of
that
merger
would
be
to
the
district.
So
my
guess
is
it's
not
as
impactful
as
you
might
think,
but
I
don't
know
we
want
to
see.
I
I
Mine,
we
have
the
what
we're
in
the
delta
variant
now
is.
That
is
that
is
that
the
the
variant
we're
in
the
kovic
the
the
pandemic
is
not
over.
I
I
have
people
who
want
to
act
like
it's
over,
but
the
pandemic
is
not
over
and
we
don't
really.
I
mean
we.
No
one
saw
the
pandemic
coming.
We
don't
know
the
after
effects
of
the
pandemic
right.
We
just
don't
know,
I'm
really
concerned
as
an
elected
official
in
in
the
out
years
of
our
budget.
I
am
you
know
when
the
when
the
when
the
opera
money
is
gone,
I'm
extraordinarily
concerned
about
the
the
the
fiscal
health
of
our
city
and
I'm
going
to
suggest
at
least
in
part
before
before
I
have.
I
K
So
obviously,
this
five-year
plan
that
we're
working
with
right
now
as
part
of
this
budget
process,
we
make
some
assumptions
about
revenue
in
the
out
years
and
in
addition
to
the
comments
I
made
earlier
about
parking
and
special
event
related
revenue.
I
think
the
big
question
is
what
happens
with
real
estate.
I
mean
particularly
commercial
real
estate
moving
forward.
K
I
think,
because
we
have
not
had
the
plethora
of
appeals
of
assessed
valuations
that
you
might
think
you
would
get
given
that
people
are
changing
their
footprint
in
buildings
and
and
you
would
think
there'd
be
a
significant
drawdown
of
value
of
your
commercial
structures,
while
we
have
had
that,
we
haven't
had
it
to
the
degree
that
you
might
think-
and
I
think
part
of
that
is
that
companies
were
under
lease.
They
they've
continued
to
pay
their
leases.
K
Some
of
them
got
ppp
money
from
the
federal
government
or
other
assistance
through
the
state
or
the
small
business
administration,
and
so
they've
been
able
to
maintain
their
their
costs
of
their
footprint.
But,
as
time
goes
on,
what
happens
if
you're
having
a?
If
you
have
a
staff
of
a
hundred
people
who
were
coming
to
work
five
days
a
week
and
now
they're
switching
off
days
and
coming
two
days
a
week,
do
you
still
need
the
same
space
that
you
had
before
and
what
does
that
do
to
the
value
of
downtown
buildings?
K
The
good
news
is
that
there's
still
significant
demand
in
downtown
for
for
residential,
so
it
it's
the
opportunity
to
do
some
conversion
to
create
a
more
24-hour
neighborhood
in
downtown
pittsburgh
and
that
may
stem
any
drop
in
valuation
that
you
see
on
the
commercial
side.
So
I
think
it's
it's
a
wait-and-see,
but
I
do.
K
I
do
think
it
lends
to
council
having
these
discussions
about
policy
around
encouraging
that
kind
of
the
activity
in
downtown
to
maintain
the
value
of
the
downtown
commercial
properties,
and
that
would
that
would
go
out
to
the
to
the
neighborhood
commercial
properties
as
well.
K
I
And
so
one
of
the
things
I'm
going
so
my
solution-
and
you
know
whoever
the
finance
chair
is
of
counsel
next
year.
I
will
suggest
to
that
person
that
we
go
back
to
having
sort
of
regular
conversations
with
you
and
in
regular
public
processes
with
you
participating.
I
I
We
can
provide
institutional
knowledge
as
to
why
things
are
the
way
they
are
and
then
what
would
change
that
we
can
put?
We
can
put
the
change
in
historic
perspective,
but
also,
I
think
we
can
we
can.
We
can
be
a
calming
effect
on
on
radical
change
which,
which
I
I
think
given
the
pandemic
and
given
our
our
tenuous
financial,
you
know
just
coming
out
of
act
47
in
our
our
sort
of
tenuous
perch.
I
I
I
think,
may
not
be
a
great
idea,
so
I'm
hoping-
and
we
did,
that
we
did
this
earlier.
When
I,
you
know,
we
spent
a
lot
more
time
working
with
you
early
earlier
councils,
and
so
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
we
kind
of
go
back
to
that
model
of
working
with
you,
because
of
your
great
great
great
financial
knowledge
and
institutional
knowledge
of
every
department
of
our
city.
I
think
it
would
blow
this
council
well
to
partner
with
you
as
we
move
forward
in
initiatives,
programs
and
oversight.
K
Well,
I
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
agree
with
it,
and
so
certainly
we
will
be
available
to
discuss
these
matters
moving
forward.
I
would
also
suggest
to
you
that
I
I
think
it's
almost
required,
given
the
monitoring
responsibility,
we're
going
to
have
over
the
spending
of
these
federal
dollars.
Our
our
our
continued
conversation
is
going
to
be
important.
I
I
In
terms
of
your
oversight
of
the
funding,
do
we
need
to
have
you
know
more
more
times
like
this?
When
we're
talking
in
public
about
the
administration
of
those
funds
and
the
administration
of
fiscal
stuff,
I
mean
you
know
whether
it's
in
post
agendas,
you
know
whether
it's
outstanding
committees
do
you
think
there
needs
to
be
more
conversations
and
oversight
in
a
in
a
public
way.
That's
really
my
question.
K
Yeah,
I
do
I
do,
and
as
far
and
whether
it's,
whether
it's
in
open
meeting
or
in
in
just
individual
discussion,
I
think
it's
gonna
be
important
and
you
know
the
the
relationship
you
know
my
office.
We
are
not
policymakers,
that's
not
that's,
not
our
job
and
we
don't
want
that
to
be
our
job.
I'm
certainly
well
I'm
willing
to
weigh
in
on
any
question
I
can.
K
The
council
has,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
policy
is
driven
by
this
council
and
by
the
mayor's
office,
and
so
I'm
certainly
willing
to
suggest
when
maybe
we're
taking
a
step
in
the
wrong
direction,
but
you're
certainly
willing
to
take
that
step
and
if
it
disagrees
with
my
opinion,
so,
but
I'm
certainly
agree
with
you
that
those
conversations,
whether
formally
or
informally,
public
or
or
in
in
closed
session,
are
important
for
us
as
we
go
through
this,
it's
gonna
be
required
of
us
to
just
to
comply
with
all
of
the
regulatory
reporting.
I
I
guess
the
last
thing-
and
this
is
something
I
said
when
we
were
having
the
the
the
oversight
of
the
upper
funding-
that
the
public
really
viewed
this
as
money
that
just
could
be
spent.
You
know
somewhat
on
wish
list,
but
that
the
art
of
money
actually
has
extraordinarily
complex
strings
attached
to
it.
It
would
it
it
was
not
money
we
could
just
put
willy-nilly
into
anything
we
wanted,
but
has
to
be
specifically
spent
at
specific
times
in
very
specific
ways.
K
Well,
that's,
that's!
That's!
Actually,
that's
great
and
that's
true
and
and
in
fact,
when
you
think
of
the
money
we've
already
received,
the
only
money
that
has
been
moved
out
of
the
trust
fund
is
the
money.
That's
been
moved
to
the
city
itself
to
cover
current
budget
year
general
funds,
general
obligations
or
general
funds
in
the
operating
budget
or
to
the
current
year
capital
budget.
K
Those
are
the
only
monies
that
have
been
moved.
No
money
has
been
moved
to
the
ura,
no
money
has
been
moved
to
the
pwsa
and
so
and
it's
because
I
believe,
council
insisting
on
a
a
strong
cooperative
agreement
with
the
city
and
those
organizations
that
we've
been
able
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
monitor
and
and
move
those
monies
as
needed,
and
as
of
yet
we
don't
even
have
those
cooperative
agreements
in
place.
So
as
of
right
now,
the
only
money
that's
moved
out
is
the
money
that
the
city
has
spent
itself.
G
Thank
you
reverend.
I
do
have
one
question,
because
I
share
the
concern
of
what
the
city's
budget
is
going
to
look
like
once
the
upper
money's
dry
dry
up.
I'm
also
concerned
that
the
new
administration
will
be
negotiating
a
new
police
contract
in
the
in
the
coming
soon
I'm
just
qu.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
about
what
that
contract
could
potentially
do
to
our
budget.
K
Well,
the
the
the
five-year
plan
does
anticipate
some
increase
for
personnel,
both
public
safety
and
non.
You
know
uniform
and
non-uniform
whether
we've
guessed
right
about
what
that
increase
is
going
to
be
is
a
question,
but
I
think
we
do
anticipate
that
salaries
are
going
to
go
up
over
the
next
five
years.
K
The
I
think
the
bigger
concern
that
I
have
is
the
one
we've
we've
talked
about
earlier,
which
is
what
happens
to
revenue,
post,
arpa
and
post
pandemic
right
now
things
look
fairly
decent,
but
you
know
it
remains
to
be
seen.
I
mean
we
have
a
new.
We
have
a
new
round
of
a
new
variant
that
people
are
concerned
about
just
over
the
weekend
and
and
what
impact
is
that
going
to
have
so
fortunately,
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
I
I've
argued
this
and
made
the
statement
before.
K
I
think
we've
done
better
than
a
lot
of
other
cities
because
of
our
diverse
employment
base.
You
know
the
fact
that
most
of
our
employers
in
the
city
were
not
laying
off
employees
throughout
the
pandemic.
K
The
fact
that
the
in
the
peak
of
the
pandemic
in
2021
and
in
2020
we
were
generating
basically
the
same
amount
of
wage
tax
as
we
were
in
2019,
speaks
volumes
about
how
well
and
diverse
our
our
local
economy
is
so
I
mean
I
I
I
see
your
concerns
councilman,
but
some
of
that
I
think
we
have
anticipated,
and
it's
really
gonna
depend
on
on
that
negotiation
between
the
administration
and
the
police
bureau
and
the
fop.
G
Okay,
thank
you
and
then,
lastly-
and
this
is
more
of
a
comment,
but
if
you
want
to
respond,
feel
free,
you-
and
I
have
had
a
number
of
talks
over
the
last
couple
years
about
the
baking
industry
and
trying
to
get
our
our
dollars
into
banks
that
are
going
to
be
doing
more
lending
and
we've
also
talked
about
getting
them
into
smaller
banks
and
even
credit
unions
that
are
doing
the
sort
of
the
bulk
of
the
lending,
especially
half
american
neighborhoods,
and
we
and
we've
had
the
conversation,
but
we
haven't
really
dug
in
and
on
my
list
of
to
do
this
year.
G
This
coming
year
is
to
really
dig
in
and
begin
working
with
you
on
that
issue
as
well.
So
especially
on
the
heels
of
the
report
that
recently
came
out
that
spoke
about
the
lack
of
lending
by
banks
in
african-american
neighborhoods.
I
really
think
we
need
to
take
a
hard
look
at
how
to
best
utilize
our
dollars
to
leverage
those
private
dollars
for
investment.
So
that's
just
more
of
a
comment
and
something
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
next
year.
I'm.
K
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up,
because
I
actually
have
it
written
here
to
bring
to
bring
up.
You
know
doing
some
kind
of
local
banking
pilot
for
small
banks,
and
I
and-
and
I
think
the
the
you
know-
a
conversation
with
our
committee
and
particularly
with
pcrg,
who
have
been
so
helpful
in
identifying
policies
to
help
get
more
money
out
to
local
banks
would
be
helpful.
K
Obviously,
as
you
know,
the
biggest
problem
we
have
with
small
banks
is
that
the
regulatory
structure
and
requirements
for
being
a
city
depository
are
just
too
onerous
for
them,
and
so
we've
got
to
find
a
way
to
pilot
a
a
less
cumbersome
process
for
banks
of
a
certain
size
and
maybe
even
in
certain
neighborhoods,
so
that
we
can
get,
and
the
one
thing
we
know
is
that
these
are
the
banks
that
are
most
efficient
at
getting
that
money
out
into
the
neighborhood.
K
And
so
you
know,
I
think
we
we
have
to
focus
on
that
this
year
and
and
and
find
a
way
to
get
more
of
that
depository
money
into
some
of
these
banks.
They're
doing
really
good
work
in
their
neighborhoods.
G
I
agree
100,
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
the
executive
director
of
the
hill
district
federal
credit
union
about
that
and
he
asked
and
she
had
to
follow
up
with
him,
but
he
asked
that
I
sent
him
the
requirements
so
that
he
could
take
a
look
and
then
see
what
suggestions
excuse
me.
He
could
potentially
make
to
that
process
to
make
it
easier
for
organizations
like
his
to
apply.
G
Excuse
me,
so
I
will
certainly
follow
up
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
that.
If
there
are
no
further
comments
from
members,
I
want
to
inform
the
public
that
our
budget
hearings
will
continue
today
at
1
30,
first
with
the
department
of
city
planning,
which
is
going
to
be
chaired
by
councilman
wilson.