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From YouTube: Pittsburgh City Council Budget Hearing (URA, HOF, Land Bank, & City Planning) - 11/29/21
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A
All
right
we're
reconvening
the
budget
hearing
meetings
and
right
now
we're
going
to
start
off
with
city
planning.
I
know
some
people
may
have
seen
the
schedule
prior.
We
did
have
the
ura
schedule
in
the
in
the
housing
opportunity
fund
schedule.
First,
we're
changing
up
a
little
bit.
We're
gonna
have
city
planning
right
now
and
if
our
budget
director
bill
orbanek,
if
you
could
start
us
off,
oh
let
me
mention
the
council
pre-people
right
here.
C
You,
sir
I'll
start
off
with
the
department
of
planning's
mission,
the
department
of
city
planning,
establishes
and
sustains
an
orderly
and
consistent
approach
to
land
use
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
that
incorporates
sustainability,
city
design,
resilience,
equity
and
opportunity
in
its
work.
To
achieve
this
sensitivity,
planning
works
with
communities,
civic
organizations
and
public
entities
to
develop
policies,
projects
and
programs
at
the
neighborhood
and
city-wide
scale,
and
implements
these
policies,
regulations,
public
commissions
and
review
of
land
development
plans,
master
plans
and
projects
for
compliance
with
those
policies
and
regulations.
D
C
Budgetary
highlights
for
the
department.
I
got
this
number
right.
Sir.
Total
budget
is
three
million
nine
hundred
forty
five
thousand
three
hundred
eighty
six
dollars.
That's
an
increase
of
two
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand
four
hundred
and
thirty
seven
dollars
or
six
percent
total
full-time
positions
are
44..
That's
a
decrease
of
six
plus
funding
for
zoning
board
members
and
interns.
C
There's
a
few
salary
position
changes
that
I'll
move
over,
including
the
elimination
of
three
community.
Liaisons
planning
has
non-salary
subclasses
that
are
increased
by
51
000,
including
tuition
reimbursement
increased
by
nineteen
thousand
professional
services,
also
increased
by
nineteen
thousand
funding.
A
grant
match
for
a
manchester
historic
estate.
Grant
administrative
fees
were
increased
by
sixty
two
hundred
dollars.
Membership
dues
for
staff,
that
is
operational,
supplies
increased
by
fifty
six
hundred
and
cleaning
increased
by
one
thousand
dollars.
C
Ninety
one
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars
green
initiatives,
trust
fund.
The
current
balance
is
three
thousand
dollars.
One
stop
pgh,
permitting
technology
trust
fund
that
trust
fund
is
shared
with
pli
inp,
domi
and
fire.
There's
no
balance
yet
trust
fund
legislatively
was
created
just
this
month
on
november,
8th
there's
also
a
lead
building
trust
fund,
no
balance.
It
was
never
implemented
and
with
that
I'll
give
it
back
to
the
chair.
A
E
G
E
E
I
won't
repeat
our
our
mission
as
as
bill
had
already
stated
it,
but
really
our
focus
is
around
land
use,
and
you
know
whether
that
is
through
development
review
or
whether
that
is
through
plans
that
we
create
or
whether
that
is
through.
You
know,
policies
and
other
work
that
we
do
with
communities
with
residents
with
other
stakeholders.
E
You
know
whether
that
is
through
neighborhood
plans
or
district
level
plans,
specific
regulations
in
the
zoning
code,
or
otherwise
in
the
city
code
or
through
implementation
through
either
development
review
or
projects
that
our
divisions
work
on.
That
is
what
you
know:
the
work
that
city
planning
does
as
part
of
its
normal
course
of
business.
E
As
noted
the
position
the
proposed
budget
for
2022
has
us
at
44.
You
know
positions
the
one
position
that
was
added
to
the
government
to
the
department.
The
climate
and
energy
advisor
position
has
been
a
grant
funded
position,
so
it's
actually
only
funded
in
the
budget
for
six
months
of
2022,
because
that
is
when
the
grant
that
we
have
expires
for
that
position.
E
The
total
operating
budget
you
know,
like
bill,
said
six
percent
increase
from
2021
the
three
capital
projects
that
we
have
were
outlined,
which
is
an
increase
from
our
capital
projects
in
2021,
the
largest
of
that
being
the
cantini
murals
preservation.
So
this
is
a
project
that
was
through
the
section
166
the
historic
preservation
process
for
the
cat
project
project
frankie
pace
park.
It
is,
you
know,
an
obligation
that
the
city
did,
you
know,
did
kind
of.
E
E
You
know
over
the
over
the
years
of
three
positions
from
the
reopener
in
2021,
but
about
seven
positions
or
seven
and
a
half
positions
over
the
last
four
years,
and
although
there
is
an
increase
in
the
operating
budget
in
2022,
that
is,
after
declines
in
the
operating
budget
in
both
2021
and
2020,
so
that
you
know
over
the
four
or
the
last
four
years.
The
budget
number
is
actually
smaller
for
our
operating
budget
than
it
was
in
2019.
E
E
So
just
a
couple
of
items
from
2021
from
that
group
we
have,
you
know
gotten
to
a
draft
of
the
city's
housing
needs
assessment
and
update
for
the
five-year
plan
have
implemented
permanent
inclusionary
zoning
in
the
lawrenceville
neighborhood.
You
know
working
with
councilwoman
gross
around
expansion
into
some
additional
neighborhoods.
E
One
of
the
things
that
we
also
manage
is
the
city's
registered
community
organizations
program,
of
which
we
are
now
up
to
41
registered
community
organizations
in
all
nine
city
council
districts.
You
know
across
the
city
a
part
of
that
is
that
we've
that
the
registered
community
organizations
hold
development
activities,
meetings
which
the
staff
assist
them
with,
and
so
you
know
those
are
over
larger
projects
that
are
coming
through
the
development
review
process.
Where
really?
E
E
Part
of
this
work
is
around
neighborhood
planning
as
well.
So
we
have
completed
the
work
of
the
visioning
studies
in
lincoln,
lemington
and
east
hills,
which
we're
now
reviewing
with
the
communities
we've
been
working
throughout
the
year
on
a
plan
for
the
oakland
neighborhoods,
which
there
have
been
a
release
of
strategies.
E
E
So
we
did
complete
park
master
plans
for
fort
pitt
park
and
garfield
for
emerald
view
park
in
mount
washington
duquesne
heights
and
are
presently
working
on
fowler
park
in
the
north
side
and
a
park
plan
for
the
hill
district
which
which
is
underway
also
work
on
citywide
planning
around
the
ada
and
you
know,
are
the
city's
compliance
with
the
americans
for
disabilities
act
as
well.
As
you
know,
items
like
the
code
for
the
residential
apartment
parking
program,
which
will
be
up
for
discussion
this
month.
E
E
That
will
allow
us
to
to
begin
that
project
and
be
able
to
bring
on
a
consultant
and
then
housing
looking
to
continue
the
expansion
of
the
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance.
Another
part
after
the
completion
of
the
housing
needs
assessment
will
be
us
identifying
additional
resources
to
try
to
bring
the
work
of
the
need.
The
recommendations
of
the
needs
assessment
to
fruition
sustainability
and
resilience
is
really
our
division.
E
And
so
you
know
that
happens
through
a
number
of
things
that
are
up
here
on
the
screen,
whether
that
is
you
know,
more
broad
items
like
helping
the
city
achieve
the
and
you
know
and
show
progress
towards
the
un's
sustainable
development
goals
at
the
highest
level
to
having
us
look
at
energy
performance
of
individual
buildings
at
a
much
more
local
level.
There's
also
a
lot
of
work.
That's
around
that's
here
in
this
division
around
finding
new
ways
to
be
able
to
work
through
city
operations
to
meet
again.
E
So
a
lot
of
things
happened
here
in
2021,
from
the
work
of
the
marshall
plan
for
middle
america
to
code
amendments
for
net
zero,
for
dark
skies
for
energy
release,
of
a
departmental
energy
strategy
that
will,
you
know,
affect
how
the
city
looks
to
meet
its
energy
goals
and
its
climate
and
the
climate
action
plan
through
through
development
and
then
providing
a
lot
of
support
to
other
departments.
And
you
know
that
is
a
part
of
that
division's
role
as
well
and
we'll
continue
and
so
again
from
the
budget.
Really.
E
This
is
the
continuation
of
the
work
that
we
do
around
the
energy
benchmarking
tool
which
which
does
monitor
energy
usage
of
commercial
buildings.
Here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
you
know,
as
a
part
of
the
release
of
that
department
of
energy
strategy,
we'll
be
working
to
develop
a
climate
and
energy
committee.
You
know
to
to
move
forward
implementation
on
that
as
well.
E
yeah,
then
moving
on
to
zoning
and
development
review,
the
you
know,
the
purpose
of
this
division
is
really
compliance
with
the
zoning
code
looking
at
development
and
permitting
as
they
come
in,
and
so
you
know
that
can
happen
through
changing.
You
know
changes
that
need
to
take
place
to
the
code
that
can
happen
through
their
role
in
the
administration
of
our
boards
and
commissions,
or
it
can
be
just
an
approving
permitting
that
may
not
have
to
go
through
a
boarding
commission,
and
so
you
know
really.
E
E
E
We
see
a
lot
of
that
work
continuing
into
2022.
You
know,
I.
I
think
that
you
know
with
the
you
know-
and
I
noted
it
earlier
with
the
completion
of
the
housing
needs
assessment.
There
will
be
a
need
for
more
housing,
related
zoning
code
amendments,
as
a
part
of
that
you
know
working
in
the
transition
of
us
being
going
from
being
completely
virtual,
with
our
permit
reviews
to
having
412
boulevard
of
the
allies
open
next
year.
E
Obviously,
there
will
be
a
lot
of
work
in
being
able
to
get
the
one
stop
counter
with
our
partner
departments
and
further
coordinate
with
our
partner
departments
there
you
know,
so
we
know
that.
That's
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
do
to
provide
guide
to
continue
provide
guidance.
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
it's
been
kind
of
you
know
pretty
outstanding,
just
what
the
change
has
been
as
we've
moved
to
an
online
permitting
system.
E
However,
both
with
the
counter
and
with
other
guidance
and
things
like
that,
the
zoning
and
development
review
team
and
permits
licenses
inspections
and
others
are
working
to
create.
Obviously,
we
know
that
we
need
to
create
more
guidance
to
some
of
the
people
that
may
only
interact
with
our
permit
system
because
they
need
to
put
a
deck.
They
want
to
put
a
deck
on
that
the
back
of
their
house
or
they
want
to
you
know
they
want
to
install
you
know
a
shed
or
something
else.
So
how
do
we
work?
E
So
again,
a
lot
of
these
things
that
were
in
our
operating
budget
are
really
just
continuations
of
existing
programs,
so,
whether
that's
the
work
of
the
public
engagement,
software
and
hbgh,
the
energy
and
benchmark
marketing
software,
the
lovely
block
grants
the
one
thing
that
is
an
additional
piece
in
here
that
bill
had
noted
was
around
memberships.
Just
as
a
piece
that
you
know
was
funded
through,
you
know
was
funded
through
the
greens,
trust
fund.
You
know
green
initiatives.
D
H
H
H
I
guess
when
you
in
your
approach
to
kind
of
just
philosophically
your
approach
to
community
engagement,
acknowledging
a
couple
of
things
one.
We
people
don't
engage
with
their
communities
in
the
same
way
anymore,
not
everyone
who
has
a
stake
in
the
community.
It
has
the
ability
or
the
time
or
the
or
the
desire
to
attend
the
rco
meetings
or
the
community
meetings
on
a
regular
basis.
Some
of
them
are
quite
small.
E
At
the
same
time,
I
think
we
understand
that
there
are
ways
to
continually
not
only
improve
that
as
a
platform
to
create
a
different
opportunity
for
people
to
engage
with
us,
but
also
that
now
we
need
to.
We
need
to
supplement
that.
As
you
know,
there
are
more
opportunities
for
in-person
engagement
or
other
types
of
engagement
with
other
techniques,
and
so
back
in
2019
into
the
beginning
of
2020.
E
On
that
you
know
we
have
someone
kind
of
working
to
think
about
how
the
overall
coordination
of
that
engagement
work
occurs.
In
accordance
with
the
you
know,
the
public
engagement
guide
that
was
created,
as
well
as
its
implementation,
with
things
like,
engage
pgh,
and
so
you
know
with
a
dedicated
staff.
E
Member
specifically
around
that
issue,
you
know,
really
are
hoping
that
that
will
improve
the
ability
to
make
sure
that
we're
engaging
people
at
the
right
level,
because
you
know
obviously
making
sure
that
you
know
there
are
some
projects
where
it
is
primarily
informing
people
that
a
project
is
going
on
to.
You
know
which
can
move
to
us
completely
co-creating
a
project
with
residents,
and
you
know
an
understanding
that
you
know
we're
doing
the
right
types
of
engagement
for
the
right
projects
and
that
we
are
attempting
to
engage
people
in
the
right
ways.
H
E
I
think
there's
a
mixture,
that's
needed
of
neighborhood
planners
and
people
that
have
a
specific
planning
specialization
so
that
the
neighborhood
planners
can
be
the
ones
that
are,
you
know
a
little
closer
to
the
ground
with
communities
and
be
able
to
understand
the
needs
of
those
communities
and
then
be
able
to
tie
back
in
more
of
a
team
environment
to
planners
that
are
working
on
specific
issues.
So,
whether
those
are
some
of
those
are
planners
that
we,
you
know,
specializations
that
we
already
have
on
staff
such
as
our
environmental
planners.
E
You
know
some
of
that
could
be
like
the
public.
You
know
having
someone
who
is
focused
specifically
on
public
engagement.
Some
of
that
could
be.
You
know
having
someone
who's
focused
on
a
specific
issue
like
housing.
You
know,
so
I
I'd
see
that
long
term
that
you
know
it
would
be-
maybe
not
necessarily
increasing
the
number
of
neighborhood
planners,
but
increasing
the
support.
E
That's
around
them
so
that
you
know,
then
those
those
planners
with
specializations
can
then
be
there
with
the
neighborhood
planner
after
they
start
to
understand
the
different
issues
that
community
may
have,
because
you
know
otherwise,
you
know
even
within
the
geographies
of
the
city.
There
are
very
different
issues
in
neighborhoods
that
are
directly
adjacent
to
one
another,
and
you
know
ex.
You
know
having
the
expectation
that
all
of
our
neighborhood
planners
could
be
specialized
and
all
of
those
things
you
know
may
not
be.
You
know,
maybe
stretching
those
positions
a
little
too
thin.
H
But
we
we
don't
right
now
and
that's
you
know,
that's
understandable-
to
be
able
to
strengthen
our
rcos,
which
we've
put
a
lot
of
of
power.
We've
granted
a
lot
of
power
to
right
now
to
strengthen
the
rcos
as
much
as
possible
to
be
able
to
serve
in
ways
that
you
know
help
to
make
up
for
any
kind
of
deficit
and
community
engagement
and
outreach,
and
it's
just
incredibly
uneven
right
now.
So,
to
the
extent
that
our
community
and
our
public
engagement
coordinator,
our
our
planners,
can
help
to
similar.
E
E
You
know
we're
now
three
years
into
the
registered
community
organization
program,
and
you
know,
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
have
worked
and
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
still
need
to
work
on,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
that's
something
that
you
know
with
you
know,
depending
on
the
level
of
capacity
you
know.
Obviously
there
are
opportunities
to
to
be
able
to
look
at
that
further.
H
It
strikes
me,
though,
that
ada
compliance,
although
a
lot
of
it,
has
to
do
with
city
planning,
some
of
it
isn't
city
planning.
Some
of
it
is
more.
You
know,
domi
related,
or
some
of
it
is
more
related
to
just
city
policies
in
general
and
having
people
on
staff
who
are
able
to
speak
to
you
know
we're
able
to
integrate
the
you
know,
need
for
accessibility
and
disabilities
rights
and
all
you
know
in
all
aspects
of
what
we
do
as
a
city,
not
just
limited
to
city
planning.
E
I
think
yeah,
we've
we've
taken
a
look
at
this.
You
know
at
you
know
various
points
relative
to
the
capacity
of
the
city
relative
to
to
aba
both
compliance
and
kind
of
foreign
and
forward
thinking.
I
think
that
if
we
were
in
a
position
where
there
were
multiple
staff
that
were
doing
that
work,
it
would
make
sense.
For
you
know,
for
example,
if
there
was
an
additional
staff,
you
know
that
that
would
be
probably
within
a
mayor's
office.
E
You
know
or
or
something
of
that
nature,
but
you
know
with
some
of
the
work,
and
you
know
whether
that's
the
work
that
we're
talking
about
with
the
public
engagement
coordinator,
whether
it
was
work
that
we're
talking
about
with
some
of
the
work
that
our
sustainability
and
resilience
team
do.
There
are
a
number
of
places
where
yeah
city,
planning's
role,
is
doing
a
lot
of
coordination
with
other
departments
and
the
the
you
know
the
ada
compliance.
Although
you
know
again,
you
know
there
is
a
lot
of
that.
E
That
you
know
is
you
know,
maybe
managing
you
know,
managing
complaints
or
requests
that
get
into
they
get
into
other
departments.
There
is
a
lot
of
work
of
that
coordinator,
both
through
the
city,
county
task
force
and
disabilities,
as
well
as
through
things
like
the
transition
planning
exercise
and
activity
that
we.
You
know
that
that
is
our
funding
for
2022
that
are
really
around.
E
You
know
the
ada
as
a
part
of
the
city's
equity
agenda
and
how
the
you
know
and
how,
in
you
know,
planning's
role
around
development,
and
you
know
public
space
and
the
future
of
the
city.
How
we
continue
to
improve.
You
know
improve
lives
for
for
all
for
all
in
the
city,
and
you
know
the
the
that
component
of
the
coordinator's
work
is
is
really
important,
and
you
know
it
is
is
something
that
is
obviously
tied
more
to
the
work.
That's
going
on
elsewhere
in
the
department
of
city
planning,.
H
Yeah,
thank
you.
That's
the
extent
of
my
questions.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
director
and
your
whole
team.
You
did
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
for
the
city,
I
mean
you're.
I
don't
think
most
people
realize
all
that
is
encompassed
in
city
planning
and
the
department,
and
your
team
is
always
willing
to
work
overtime,
attend
meetings,
special
meetings
to
answer,
questions
about
their
areas
of
specialty.
H
B
B
D
F
Sure,
if
you
don't
mind,
corey,
lehman
stoning
administrator,
so
there
are
certain
scopes
of
work
that
only
require
a
building
permit.
There
are
certain
scopes
of
work
that
only
require
a
zoning
development
review
permit,
and
then
there
are
some
I'd
say
you
know
more
than
half
that
that
require
both
and
it's
really
sort
of
making
sure
that
the
the
scope
of
work
is.
F
First,
you
know
when
the
intake
specialists
at
permits
licenses
inspections
take
in
application,
they're
working
with
the
applicant
to
make
sure
that
the
the
scope
of
work,
that's
stated
is
matching.
What's
on
the
plans
that
there's
you
know
enough
information
for
us
to
proceed
as
informed
reviewers,
and
then
we
take
it
from.
B
F
Well,
first
and
foremost,
we're
looking
at
it
for
compliance
with
the
zoning
code.
What
that
can
entail
really
depends
on
what
zoning
district
it's
in,
what
the
scale
and
scope
of
work
is,
you
know
I
mean
the
process
for
review
can
be
significantly
different
just
between
two
locations
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
If
one
building
is
on
a.
F
F
B
F
That's
correct,
you
know,
primarily
zoning
is
going
to
be
looking
at
the
impacts
of
that
development.
The
tools
that
are
in
the
zoning
code
can
range
from
setbacks
to
say
you
know
this.
This
is
the
distance
from
the
neighbor's
property
or
from
the
street
heights,
but
we
can
get
into
substantially
okay.
B
B
B
E
E
You
know
working
with
artists,
you
know
and
to
commission
new
art
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
you
know
they're
also
serving
staff
to
the
art
commission.
So
whether
it's
us
working
to
commission
new
art
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
they
still
have
to
go
to
the
art
commission,
which
is
like
many
of
our
boards
and
commissions
appointed
by
you
know,
appointed
by
the
mayor.
E
They
are,
you
know,
put
into
place
by
city,
you
know
by
voter
city
council,
but
in
the
art
commission's
ex
you
know
they
they
have
requirements,
so
they
do
have
artists
that
are
on
there.
They
do
have
architects
that
are
on
there.
They
do
have
community
members
that
are
that
are
on
the
art,
commission
and
they're.
The
ones
who
are
you
know
who
are
reviewing,
you
know
reviewing
basically,
whether
it's
a
piece
of
public
art
or
even
if
it
may
be
a
community
that
wants
to
do.
E
B
E
No,
no
so
you
know
again,
I
mean
whether
it's
you
know
grant
and
his
team
working
on
kind
of
larger
climate.
You
know
climate
and
resilience-based
work
they're,
not
you
know
like,
although
there
may
be
some
place
in
which
they
might
look
at
a
plan.
I'd
say
that
it
is.
It
is
less
likely
with
that
team
and
that's
a
team
of
of
six
and
a
half.
E
E
Those
are
you
know,
I
mean
those
are
the
ones
who
I
would
say
you
know.
The
largest
portion
of
their
job
is
is
looking
at
plans
and
that
you
know
that
that
could
be
looking
at
plans
because
they're
doing
a
review
and
approval
of
something
that's
just
happening
without
any
need
for
public
process.
But
then,
if
it
has
to
go
to
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment
or
if
it
has
to
go
to
the
planning,
commission
or
contextual
design
advisory
panel.
E
B
E
Sure
so
the
the
trust
funds,
the
trust
you
know
just
start
from
the
top
and
go
down
stormwater
management
trust
fund.
There
is
a
provision
in
title
13
of
the
code,
the
stormwater
management
section
where
you
know
peop.
What
can
happen
is
that
an
applicant,
a
developer
could
look
to
pay
a
fund
in
lieu
of
providing
a
stormwater
facility.
E
There
are
reasons
to
do
that
if
it's
what's
called
an
act,
2
site
where
you
might
not
want
to
dig
into
you
know,
you
might
not
want
to
dig
into
the
ground
or
you
know
some
other
sites
that
already
have
you
know
disturbance
in
some
other
ways.
You
may
not
actually
want
to
build
a
stormwater
management
facility
on
that
site.
It
actually
may
be
worse
for
us
environmentally
to
be
able
to
do
that.
There
are
other
cases
where
people
opt
in
to
you
know
into
that.
E
Whether
that's
you
know,
department
of
public
works
on
an
open
space
project
or
whether
that's
the
water
and
sewer
authority
on
some
of
the
places
where
we
connected
them.
These
might
be
funds
that
could
be
used
to
supplement
those
projects
to
be
able
to
increase
the
amount
of
stormwater
that
we
can.
E
E
We
do
have
a
requirement
for
open
space
on
developments
of
certain
of
certain
size,
and
you
know
if,
for
some
reason
you
know
either
they
decide
not
to,
or
there
are
other
limitations
that
create
it.
Where
they're
not
able
to
provide
open
space
and
a
lot,
they
may
contribute
to
the
trust
fund,
which
then
can
go
towards
you
know
again.
You
know
either
purchase
of
property
for
open
space,
or
you
know,
or
other
features,
getting
built
into
open
space
that
are
public
projects.
B
Let
me
let
me
make
sure
I
got
this
straight
okay,
so
somebody
has
a
major
development
somewhere
in
the
city-
it's
not
feasible
to
say
for
them
to
come
up
with
stormwater
management
plan
that
we
like
to
see
them.
Have
yes,
we're
saying
that's,
okay,
as
long
as
you
contribute
to
our
trust
fund
a
little
bit
of
money,
and
we
can
now
use
that
money
to
you
know
fight
water
mitigation
in
other
ways,
so
it's
kind
of
like
yeah.
It
doesn't
make
sense
for
you
here.
B
E
E
Feasible,
yeah
and
and
and
when
we,
you
know
when
we
went
through
this
process
over
the
last
two
years
of
updating
title
13
to
the
code,
we
did
update
all
of
those
regulations.
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
even
beyond
that
that
we
were
maybe
a
little
less
likely
to
try
to
pursue
that
option
is
that
you
know
we
were
finding
that
what
those
contributions,
weren't
necessarily
a
matching
impact,
and
so
you
know
we
did.
We
did
try
to
change
that
with
the
revisions
that
council
passed.
B
So
how
do
you?
How
do
you
come
up
about
that
fee?
So
say
somebody
say
a
typical.
I'm
just
throwing
numbers
out
say
a
typical
storm
water
management,
you
know
plan
would
require,
say
two
million
dollars
for
the
developer
and
we
decide
well.
We
can't
do
it
there,
so
we
would
like
you
to
you
know
at
least
pat
our
fund
a
little
bit,
so
we
can
fight
it
in
different
areas.
Who
dictates
that
amount?
Is
that,
based
on
a
percentage
of
the
project
or.
E
Sure
so
the
change
that
was
made
with
the
revisions
of
title
13
was
that
before
an
applicant
would
submit
an
engineer's
estimate,
they
would
submit
an
engineer's
estimate
for
what
the
costs
would
be
for
them
to
build
that
system,
and
you
know,
then
you
know
we
would
confirm.
You
know,
confirm
the
numbers
in
in
our
review
of
their
stormwater
management
plan
and
then
agree
to
agree
to
a
number
yeah.
B
E
E
This
is
what
it
is.
You
know
if
you
you
know,
if
you're
looking
to
to
pursue
this
option,
you
have
to
go,
you
know
you
have
to
go
this
route
and
there's
already
a
calculation.
That's
been,
you
know,
that's
there
and
been
done
to
try
to
take
more
of
that.
You
know
I
mean
with
a
lot
of
the
pieces
of
code.
You
know
we.
E
We
always
try
to
find
the
balance
of
making
sure
that
we're
able
to
accept
and
incorporate
public
input
into
a
process,
but
at
the
same
time
really
trying
to
stick
to
code
and
try
to
stick
to.
You
know
hard
guidelines
or
code
that
make
our
just.
You
know
any
of
the
administration
any
of
the
administrative
decisions
that
planning
staff
are
making
that
they're
based
on
codes
and
then
those
things
that
go
to
boards
and
commissions
are
the
places
where
you
know
there
might
be.
E
E
E
E
Then
and
then
the
new
trust
fund,
which
has
no
balance
in
it
at
this
point
in
time,
is,
is
the
one
around
the
one.
Stop
the
the
you
know,
technology
trust
fund
for
open
space.
Bga
the
you
know,
I'm
sorry,
one
stop
pgh,
sorry,
mixing
trust
funds
now,
and
you
know
that
is
around
you
know,
you
know,
permit
fees
kind
of
going
into
the
ability
to
upkeep
the
technology,
that's
required
for
the
online
permitting
system,
and
you
know
our
permanent
operation.
E
B
G
E
Is
the
capital
budget?
This
is
the
capital
budget
project.
I
think
that
your
you
know
that
your
office
had
put
into
the
budget
in
a
prior
year,
and
so
you
know,
with
you
know,
kind
of
getting
through
some
of
the
park
master
plans
that
we've
had
capital
budget
for
and
also
state
grants
for,
because
we
do
get
for
a
lot
of
the
park
master
plan
work.
B
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here
appreciate
all
your
good
work.
I
think
I'm
on
my
third
or
fourth
year
now
of
saying
that
I
do
not
that
I
think
you
should
have
more
staff
and
not
fewer
staff,
so
I
missed
the
very
beginning
of
the
presentation,
but
I
have
mr
strelix
memo
and
it
says
that
there
is
a
decrease
yet
again,
this
year
of
positions
in
planning
director
a
decrease
of
six
positions.
E
J
J
Last
year
we
got
some
3
000
emails,
asking
city
council
to
revise
its
budget
to
do
more
investments,
more
investments
in
neighborhoods,
more
investments
in
communities,
and
I
believe
that
part
of
those
things
require
city
plans
for
those
neighborhoods
and
community
improvements.
While
I
I
understand
that
councilman
straussberger
was
talking
about
how
well
okay,
this
is
the
budget
we
have,
and
you
know
so
times
are
different,
and
so
how
do
we
navigate
this?
This
outreach?
J
I
do
think
those
are
kind
of
open
questions,
but
that,
no
matter
what
the
engagement
looks
like,
even
if
it
is
different
than
20
years
ago,
even
if
there
are
new
mediums,
it's
really
difficult
to
do
community
plans
without
fewer
and
fewer
planning
stuff
gorgeous.
Are
you
still
there
you're
on
mike
good
news?
Thank
you.
So
I
I
want
to
ask
you,
because
I
don't
recall
how
many
positions
were
you
down?
Did
you
lose
last
year.
E
In
2019,
we
had
51
and
a
half
positions
that
moved
to
49
in
2020
that
moved
to
51
in
the
initial,
or
you
know,
51
the
2021
budget.
That
bill
had
mentioned
just
because
one
of
those
positions
is
grant
was
grant
funded.
It
was
funded
through
through
a
grant,
and
that
is
actually
the
position
that
was
added
into
our
budget.
For
six
months
was
because
that
grant
expires
in.
E
E
And
and
that
that
grant
expires
in
june,
that
position
has
been
pretty
instrumental
in
a
lot
of
our
work
on
on
certain
programs
relative
to
you
know
to
our
climate
work.
You
know
to
projects
like
the
street
lights
project,
with
department
of
mobility
infrastructure
to
other
items
relative
to
you
know
to
our
work
on
climate
mitigation.
E
J
Okay,
so
you've
done
nearly
seven
position
well,
more
than
seven
positions,
so
I'm
gonna
say
that's
about
a
fifteen
percent
decrease
in
three
years,
and
I
don't
see
the
reason
for
that.
It
looks
to
me
that
we
need
more
city
planning,
that
we
are
trying
to
do
important,
neighborhood
work
without
neighborhood
plans
and
while
council
members
go
to
the
community
meetings,
we
work
closely
with
our
rcos
and,
as
has
been
pointed
out,
some
have
more
capacity
and
somehow
less
capacity.
J
E
You
are
correct
and
you
know.
Obviously
there
are
multiple
approaches
to
pursuing
plans
like
that
one
is
to
hire
consultants.
You
know
to
do
that.
We
are,
I
mean
we
are
trying
to
avoid
that
where
possible,
because
you
know
it
is
better
to
have
the
capacity
in-house
to
be
able
to
then
have
the
same
people
that
are
working
on
developing
those
plans,
be
the
ones
working
with
communities
and
residents
to
implement
them.
E
You
know
I
I'd
say
that
sometimes,
given
the
staff
that
we
have
that's,
you
know,
that's
not
necessarily
possible
in
those
cases,
that
is
where
we
have
to
to
hire
consultants
to
be
able
to
supplement
the
work
of
staff,
and
you
know,
we've
tried
to
we've
tried
to
specialize
the
work
that
we're
hiring
out
a
little
bit
more.
You
know
so
that
the
faces
the
faces
that
you're
seeing
in
community
meetings
are,
you
know,
aren't
consultants,
they
are
people,
you
know
they
are
planners
that
are
employed
by
the
city.
E
That
will
continue
to
be
working
with
those
communities
after
you
know,
planners
that
we
may
consult
with
are
gone,
but
you
know,
obviously
you
know
to
be
able
to
manage
the
level
of
work
that
we
have
with
the
staff
that
we
presently
have.
You
know
it.
It
does
require
it.
You
know
it
requires
us
to
either
have
consultants
or
get
more
capacity.
J
J
I
don't
think
we
should
be
separating
our
infrastructure
investments
and
our
city
planning
the
way
we
have
been
doing.
I
think
we
need
to
really
lean
on
city
planning
to
look
at
where
those
investments
happen
as
well
and
you've
probably
heard
me
say
over
the
years.
Certainly,
my
council
colleagues
have
heard
you
say
way
way
too
many
times
over
the
last
eight
years.
Is
that
we're
not
just
rebuilding
the
city
above
ground,
we're
also
rebuilding
for
the
next
hundred
years
below
ground
right?
J
That
is
really
our
core
local
government
responsibility
and
that
we
should
resource
that
and
if
we
don't
we're
really
letting
down
our
neighborhoods,
because
the
powers
that
have
money
we'll
be
making
those
decisions
for
them
and-
and
that
is
that
is
not
the
way
it
has
to
be.
The
reason
we
have
lando's
power
is
so
we
can
support
our
residents
in
shaping
the
neighborhoods
that
they
want
to
live
in
and
empowering
them
to
to
to
have
the
power,
for
example,
with
inclusionaries.
J
I
need
to
keep
the
neighbors
that
they
want
in
in
their
neighborhood
and
create
that
space
for
people
and
across
incomes,
but
that's
just
one
example
that
we
have
in
depopulating
by
half
as
a
city
over
the
last.
You
know
three
or
four
decades,
but
then
also
living
through
nearly
two
decades
of
austerity
and
having
downsized
our
city
departments.
J
So
I
will
once
again
be
lobbying
to
add
positions
back
to
your
department
and
I
hope
to
be
more
successful
in
this
budget
year.
But
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
again
supporting
inclusionary
zoning
in
its
first
go-round
in
lawrenceville
and
in
creating
it
in
a
way
that
it
can
be
expanded
and
we
have
it
under
review
now.
J
I
think
we
need
less
and
I
say
back
to
her
watch
out
because
one
day
those
developers
going
to
come
for
you
in
your
district
and
then
you're
going
to
understand
how
much
you
need
the
city
of
the
pittsburg
city
planning
department,
so
I'll
be
saying
that
again
this
year.
That's
all
the
questions
I
have
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
E
I'd
say
just
to
the
infrastructure
comment.
You
know
when
I
mean
that
is
something
that
does
occur
through
many
of
the
neighborhood
planning
processes
that
we
take
on.
If
we
think
about
work,
that's
going
on
in
uptown
with
the
bus,
rapid
transit
and
how
stormwater
infrastructure
was
aligned
with
that,
or
you
know,
discussions
of
how
district
energy
infrastructure
is
aligned.
With
that
I
mean
those
are
conversations
that
come
from
community
and
get
integrated
into
those
neighborhood
planning
efforts.
E
You
know
to
your
point,
though
we
you
know,
have
completed
neighborhood
plans
and
nine
of
our
90
neighborhoods
are
working
in
nine
of
them
right
now
and
they
are
two-year
processes,
so
I
mean
you
know,
like
I
mean
given
you
know,
I
mean
which,
which
is
the
pace
that
we're
probably
able
to
do
with
the
staff
that
we
have.
You
know
to
to
be,
to
be
honest,.
A
L
Yes,
first
of
all,
I
think
city
city
planning
does
an
outstanding
job,
I'm
a
fan.
So
I
have
a
question
to
you.
I
see
that
you
have
other.
You
have
replaced
the
office
of
community
engagement
with
the
public
affairs
office
right
you've
taken
because
of
you
know,
scarcity.
You
reduce
that
to
one
person
correct,
that's
kind
of
how
I
see
it.
E
L
E
E
L
L
You
know
there
are
specific
skill
level,
for
instance
in
the
african-american
community
right
there's
a
there's:
a
specialized
need
to
have
public
engagement,
people
that
have
a
background
in
in
african-american
communities
or
hispanic
communities,
or
that
there
is
not
just
project
specific,
but
it
could
be
people
specific
that
they
have
this
expertise
that
would
that
would
be
greater
community
community
participation.
I'm
I
just
I'm
just
taking
your
thought
and
and
kind
of
going
to
a
conclusion,
so
I
will
I
I
am
kind
of
in
between
councilwoman
gross.
L
If
I'm,
I'm,
I'm
really
more
in
councilwoman
strasburger's
position,
I
I
really
think
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
engage
the
public
more
and
and
that
I
will
be.
I
will
be
thinking
and
talking
with
members
about
about
the
the
public
engagement
process,
and
you
know
I
don't
want
us
to
lose
the
civic
leadership
academy,
where
we
actually
literally
bring
people
in.
I
know,
there's
something.
I've
taught
it
a
couple
of
times
over
the
years.
L
I've
been
council's
participatory
teacher
in
that,
and
so
it's
dear
to
my
heart,
so
we'll
work
together
on
what
that
looks
like
perhaps
moving
forward,
so
that
we
can
supplement.
I
I
agree.
We
need
to
supplement
with
what
planning
is
doing
with
some
other
activities,
and
I
will
be
working
with
council
to
try
to
do
that.
But
I
really
I
appreciate
your
service.
We
don't
always
agree,
but
we've
worked
together.
L
I
think
the
plan
we
did
in
homewood
was
spectacular
and
you
guys
did
a
great
job
on
that
comprehensive
community
plan
and
the
plans
we
are
doing.
The
smaller
planning
processes
that
you
are
leading
across
my
district,
where
many
of
them
have
had
no
planning
in
50
years
have
been.
You
know
exemplary,
and
so
I
really
thank
you
for
your
your
leadership
and
I
I
do
support
the
the
department.
E
M
Thank
you.
So
I
have
a
quick
question
to
sort
of
follow
up
on
what
councilman
gross
was
speaking
about,
because
I
agree
with
her
from
the
standpoint
of
we
have
to
really
begin
looking
at
our
infrastructure
and
that,
especially
in
a
lot
of
american
communities,
the
infrastructure
is
really
really
poor.
M
My
question
is:
if
we
were
to
find
resources
to
give
to
planning
and
let's
use,
we
can
use
center
avenue
as
an
example
we're
currently
trying
to
build
out
center
avenue
as
a
sort
of
a
new
business
district
for
the
community,
we
actually
have
a
ground
breaking
for
a
new
barber
shop
tomorrow.
However,
all
the
lines
under
center
avenue
need
replaced.
E
No,
it
does,
and
I
think
there
are
some
pieces
where
it
moves
a
little
bit
out
of
planning's
wheelhouse.
I
think
the
places
where
that
is
are
the
specifics
of
how
that
infrastructure
gets
installed
and
done,
and
that's
where
we
have
a
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
and
that
kind
of
work.
However,
when
we
think
about
what
the
future
of
these
communities
are,
we
think
about.
You
know,
for
example,
with
center
avenue
example.
E
We
think
about
what
what
is
the
future
of
the
hill
district,
how
many
more
people
how
many
more
businesses
are
going
to
be
in
that
those
locations,
so
we
can
think
about
not
only
infrastructure,
that's
underground,
but
also
the
need,
for
you
know,
sidewalks
and
you
know
and
pedestrian
space
the
need
for
open
spaces.
All
of
those
you
know
the
need
for
stormwater
management.
All
of
those
things
are
really
integrated
together
as
infrastructure,
and
you
know
whether
it's
through
I
mean
you
know.
E
I'd
say
we
see
the
vehicle,
primarily
as
being
the
neighborhood
plans
that
we're
working
with
communities
on
that
we
can
have
these
discussions
understand
how
we
set
development
regulations
to
you
know
to
to
put
together
that
that
that
future,
that
communities
see
themselves,
you
know
being
and
being
able
to
say
all
right.
Well,
if
this
is
the
type
of
growth
that's
going
to
happen
here,
this
is
the
type
of
infrastructure
that
we're
going
to
need
to
support
it.
E
M
E
E
D
E
That
does
that
you
know
that
does
require
more
help
and
like
like
the
conversation
with
with
with
councilwoman
gross,
you
know
I
mean
you
know
that
that
happens
in
one
of
two
ways
that
happens
with
you
know
more
capacity
at
a
staff
level,
or
you
know
kind
of
assistance
at
a
consultant
level.
You
know
when
it's
needed.
M
Okay,
understood,
I
guess
my
request
would
be
because
I
don't
disagree
with
councilwoman
gross's
premise
in
our
last
cycle.
I
disagree
with
how
we
were
going
to
pay
for
it,
but
I
don't
disagree
with
her
premise
that
we
want
to
support
the
planning
department
to
the
greatest
extent
possible.
I
guess
what
I
would
ask
if
you
could
maybe
send
over.
M
If
you
had
your
your
your
druthers,
here's
exactly
what
we
would
need,
here's,
what
would
here's,
what
it
would
cost
here's
the
position
that
would
allow
us
to
go
really
more
in
depth
and
provide
that
with
specifically
the
council
woman
gross,
but
you
provided
to
all
the
council
then
as
she's
going
to
look
after
going
looking
for
resources.
We
know
exactly
specifically
what
we're
funding,
as
opposed
to
just
saying.
Oh,
we
want
to
give
you
five
more
planters,
but
rather
no
we
want
this
specific
set
of
expertise
within
your
wheelhouse.
E
Conservation
districts,
so
actually
you
know
we
had
worked
internally
to
to
create
a
draft
of
that.
I
would
say
that
you
know
just
with
other
staff
priorities
that
has
not
been
able
to
get
across
the
finish
line.
To
be
honest,
you
know
that
there
would
be
you
know
more
community
engagement.
That
would
need
to
be
done
in
advance
of
taking
that
to
the
planning
commission-
and
you
know,
with
the
priorities
of
getting
some
of
the
things
that
we
were
able
to
get
accomplished.
E
M
Okay,
it
literally,
I
just
thought
of
it.
Admittedly,
I
haven't
stayed
on
top
of
it
either
because
as
you're
well
aware
at
some
point
I
was
looking
at
it
for
the
upper
portion
of
central
northside,
which
then
just
became
a
historic
district,
so
that
sort
of
fell
by
my
wayside.
But
it
does
make
me,
as
we
talk
about
the
the
planning
around
housing
on
the
comprehensive
plans.
We
think
about
these
sort
of
things.
Conservation
districts
could
become
another
tool.
E
It
is
definitely
it
is
definitely
a
place
that
could
be.
You
know
a
tool
in
the
toolbox.
I
know
we've
talked
about
it
councilman
as
well,
in
places
like
the
middle
hill.
You
know
that,
as
we
work
through
the
update
to
the
greater
hill
district
master
plan,
you
know
that
we,
we
may
be
thinking
about
ways
that
you
know.
M
A
Thank
you
councilman
there.
Any
other
helps
people
on
the
line
before
I
start
asking
my
questions
all
right.
Thank
you
director
and
thank
you
to
your
staff
for
everything
you
do
so
in
terms
of
the
stormwater
code
that
we
changed
recently
pli
is
adding
six
more
positions
on
their
side,
for
that
is
that
correct.
E
E
E
E
D
A
E
A
D
E
E
If
there
are,
you
know,
neighborhood
planners
and
planners,
that
have
specific
special
specializations,
then
you
know
you
know,
you
know,
for
example,
some
of
the
you
know
the
economic
planning
work
that
we've
had
to
consult
in
oakland
and
the
hill
district,
which
are
the
two
planning
projects
that
we
have
going
on
now
or
some
of
the
urban
design
work
that
you
know
our
capabilities
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
within
the
department
that
you
know.
If
those
were
staff,
then
they
there
wouldn't
be
a
need
to
to
have
those
as
consultants.
E
I
mean
the
short
answer
is
to
you
know
to
have
you
know
to
have
somebody
who
is
the
neighborhood
planner
that
is
serving
that
community,
that
is
involved
in
those
neighborhood
plans,
as
well
as
having
you
know,
then
support
from
you
know
from
a
broader
team.
If
there
are
people
that
are
focused
on
housing
or
on
economics
or
on.
D
E
E
Well,
I
mean
it
depends
I
mean
the
answer
is
it
varies
wildly
and
the
other
answer
is.
It
varies
wildly
the
level
of
engagement,
and
so
you
know
whether
that
is
committed
residents
who
are
serving
on
steering
committees
that
are
guiding
the
work
of
the
plans
to
you
know
to
interested
residents
who
are
participating
in
things
like
action
teams
around
specific
topics
in
their
neighborhoods
to
residents,
who
might
not
have
a
whole
lot
of
time
to
do
anything
but
fill
out
an
online
survey.
E
You
know
there
are
different
levels
and
we
try
to.
We
try
to
really
focus
on
creating
different
levels
of
ways
for
people
to
be
involved
as
well.
As
you
know,
opportunities
for
people
yeah
I
mean
we
would
love
for
everyone
to
participate
at
the
highest
level
and
and
help
and
help
guide
all
of
the
work
and
we'd
love
for
every
resident
to
participate.
E
You
know,
hopefully
become
a
lot
more
transparent
with
documents
and
meetings,
and
things
like
that.
There
is
a
record
of
all
of
that
for
people
if
they
can't
come
in
at
the
beginning
that
if
they,
you
know,
come
in
in
the
middle
or
if
they
come
in
later,
that,
there's
an
opportunity
to
see
why
decisions
were
made
the
way
that
they
were
and
that
you
know
and
though,
and
the
places
where
you
know,
residents
and
stakeholders
were
able
to
influence.
A
Yeah
see
you
know,
I
think
we'll
find
this
in
especially
in
the
marshall
shadeland
area,
and
then
several
other
parts
throughout
the
north
side
see.
I
think
we
should.
I
thought
I
don't
think
neighborhood
planners
do
a
good
job
yeah.
I
guess
I'll
find
out
here
with
marshall
shailen
breitz
plan,
although
we'll
be
outsourcing.
A
Some
of
that
you
know,
my
district
is,
is
plagued
with
vacant
abandoned
housing,
and
so
I
wonder
how
much
you
know
funding
do
we
put
with
neighborhood
planners
instead
of
increasing
the
funding
for
the
neighborhood
economic
development
funding,
the
net
funding,
and
then
also
you
know
just
how
much
city
support
we
do
to
building
capacity
so
that
neighborhoods
are
part
of
their
own
development
with
housing.
They
can
abandon
property.
N
A
You
got
lawrenceville,
you
got
oakland
they're,
worried
about
you
know.
Well
what
is
this
zone?
What
does
this
part
of
the
you
know?
Neighborhood,
look
like
in
10
years.
It's
just
that
it's
really
hard
to
think
about
spending
more
resources
on
neighborhoods.
That,
maybe
think
you
know
maybe
not
concerned
about
that.
What
that
would
leave
behind
you
know
areas
like
marshall
shadeland,
who
they're
gonna,
be
a
part
of
this
planning
process,
but
as
you'll
find
out,
they
have
a
lot
of
vacant,
abandoned
property,
and
I
think
that's
what's
affecting
my
my
constituents.
E
This
was
looking
at
the
vacant
properties
in
homewood
and
trying
to
assess
them
for
different
types
of
uses,
and
so
that
isn't
necessarily
development
in
most
cases,
because
you
know,
although
in
some
cases
you
know,
homewood
is
starting
to
see
development
pressure
from
its
neighbors
to
you
know,
from
its
neighbors
to
the
south
and
to
the
west.
But
at
the
same
time
a
lot
of
those
properties
you
know
aren't
seeing
you
know,
are
not
going
to
see
that
development
pressure
in
the
in
in
the
near
term.
D
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
don't
I'll
bring
this
up,
because
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
one
or
the
other
first.
I
guess
I
should
make
that
clear.
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
like
how
that
fits
into
it,
because
I
know
like
if
we
could.
You
know
throughout
this
neighborhood
playing
with
marshall
shadeland
brain
heights.
We
can
leverage
what
we
find.
A
You
know
areas
that
would
be,
you
know,
would
see
the
greatest
impact,
for
you
know,
title
research
and
and
and
then
you
know,
working
with
the
neighborhood
group
working
with
the
land
bank
really
a
way
to
to
leverage
what
we
find
there,
but
also
not
to
wait
you
know
to
in.
I
know
this
takes
a
couple
years
right.
This
will
take
a
couple
years
to
the.
A
A
A
A
J
J
If
you
could
take
down
the
screen
sharing,
thank
you.
What
we'll
do
is
I'll
start
with
the
council
budget
office
looks
like
we're
joined
by
mr
strelik,
who
will
do
a
little
recap
for
members
first
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
ra
for
your
presentation.
Thank
you,
mr
strelik
introduced.
Oh,
he
just
left
us.
D
O
The
ura
is
in
the
operating
budget
at
a
city's
operating
budget,
rather
at
two
places
both
related
to
the
purchase
of
the
412
boulevard
of
the
allies
building.
We,
the
city,
financed
it.
We
were
able
to
get
a
better
rate
than
the
housing
authority
in
the
ura
did
so
the
city
financed
all
of
it
and
then
the
ura
reimburses
us
for
the
purchase.
Just
like
the
housing
authority.
Does
this
year
they're
expected
to
give
us
522
682
dollars.
O
J
I
J
P
J
I'll
share
part
of
the
credit
I
think,
for
years
I
harassed
you
all
to
make
more
of
a
presentation.
So,
okay,
I
would
appreciate
it
if
it,
if,
if
we
can
make
it
publicly
available,
madam
clerk,
you
don't
have
to
respond,
but
just
so,
if
we
do
go
quickly
and
members
of
the
public
are
looking
for,
it
we'll
make
sure
it's
attached
somehow
to
the
session
so
that
members
of
the
public
can
see
it.
P
So
yes,
we'll
try
to
get
through
this
fairly
quickly
and
happily
for
you
all
you'll
be
hearing
from
from
more
than
just
me.
We
have
as
you've,
seen
a
pretty
big
roster
of
ura
staff,
who
will
be
taking
carrying
some
of
the
load
on
their
presentation.
So
thank
you,
members
of
the
city,
council,
councilwoman,
strasbergers
and
gross.
P
What
I'd
like
to
do,
though,
before
we
get
started,
is
to
acknowledge
the
the
outgoing
peduto
administration.
They've
been
great
to
work
with
they've,
been
nothing
if
not
totally
supportive
of
the
ura,
since,
since
I've
been
here
and
they've
been
a
great
deal
of
fun
to
collaborate
with
and
we'll
miss
them
and
they're
great
champions
of
the
city.
P
Yes,
we
still
do
large
projects
like
south
side
works
pittsburgh
technology
center
on
any
given
day.
You
know
we
are.
We
were
talking
to
ceos
of
companies
looking
to
relocate
larger
developers.
You
know
founders
of
startup
companies,
but
we
also
manage
the
you
know
the
the
nif
program,
neighborhood
improvement
program
for
the
city.
We
have
a
large
and
growing
affordable
housing
portfolio.
P
We
run
a
number
of
home
ownership
assistance
programs.
We
really
are
a
community
economic
organization
and
any
given
week
we're
just
as
likely
as
speaking
to
a
ceo
of
a
company
as
we
are
to
a
little
old
lady
who
needs
a
new
roof
and
everything
in
between
and
as
somebody
who
has
worked
for
peer
organizations
in
other
cities
and
is
consulted
for
others.
I
can
honestly
say
I
don't
think,
there's
another
community
development
organization
in
a
city,
our
size
that
has
quite
the
diverse
portfolio
that
we
carry.
But
this
is
our
our
vision.
P
We
kind
of
adhere
to
this
idea
that
we
call
it
equity
economics.
That
means
a
lot
of
things
to
us
means
an
economic
development
or
theory
of
economic
development
philosophy.
That
is,
you
know,
unapologetically
redistributive
and
remedial.
We're
really
focused
on
transforming
opportunity.
Deserts
opportunity,
neighborhoods,
really
focus
on
the
acceleration
creation
of
neighborhood
wealth,
very
supportive
of
livable
wages,
connecting
our
projects
to
the
workforce
system
being
very
deliberate
in
that
way,
and
really
helping
to
build
up
our
wnbe
ecosystem
next
slide.
P
P
Our
operating
budget
is
12.6
million
dollars
on
the
on
the
expense
side
of
the
ledger,
but
80
of
that
is
made
up
of
our
wages,
personnel
and
benefits,
and
that
is
offset
for
about
30
percent
from
the
revenues
we
receive
from
you
all
on
an
annual
basis
and
with
that
very
brief
introduction,
I'm
going
to
volley
it
over
to
dr
diamante
walkert
and
tom
link
respectively,
to
talk
about
our
productivity
over
the
past
well,
at
least
to
date
in
21
2021
today.
So
diamante.
Q
Thank
you
greg
and
before
I
begin
I
would
like
to
in
addition
to
thanking
the
outgoing
mayor,
peduto
administration.
I'd
also
like
to
thank
this
governing
body
for
your
continued
support.
You
have
been
a
stalwart
partner
to
the
ura
and
the
impact
that
we
are
getting
ready
to
to
walk
you
through.
Briefly.
This
is
a
shared
accomplishment
and
without
your
support
in
your
thought,
leadership,
it
would
not
be
possible.
So
I'd
like
to
begin
with
a
snapshot
of
our
affordable
housing
impact
through
the
third
quarter.
Q
Here
in
2021,
the
ura
has
invested
nearly
12
million
dollars
in
housing
and
that's
leveraged
about
127
million
dollars
in
total
development
costs.
For
the
projects
which
have
yielded
about
329,
affordable
housing
units,
we
are
proud
to
say
that
64
of
this
support
has
been
directed
to
homeowners
or
residents
that
are
either
minority
and
or
woman
heads
of
household,
which
is
very
important,
because
we
know
that
that
particular
population
has
been
adversely
impacted
during
the
course
of
this
pandemic.
Q
The
the
creation
of
nearly
329
units
of
affordable
housing
have
been
at
80
area,
median
income
or
below,
with
38
of
those
units
being
workforce.
Housing
units,
which
are
the
housing
units
that
are
dedicated
to
providing
housing
to
teachers
and
child
care
workers
and
janitors
and
custodians,
which
are
an
important
population
here
within
our
city.
Q
If
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide
daniel,
and
so
when
we
look
at
how
this
has
impacted
our
city
from
an
inclusive
growth
standpoint,
nearly
260
individuals
assisted
during
the
housing
crisis,
intervention
programs
that
the
ura
developed
we've
deployed
about
624
000
into
that
program.
19
of
those
individuals
received
accessibility,
improvements
allowing
them
to
stay
in
their
home.
Q
I
I
Hopefully
what
are
quality
impacts
across
our
city
in
terms
of
home
homes
and
jobs
and
quality
economic
development
growth
throughout
our
city.
So,
thank
you
for
that
yeah,
just
briefly
on
inclusive
growth,
and
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
quickly
here,
but
we,
you
know,
we
we
are
a
you
know.
A
core
aspect
of
our
work
is
our
investment
in
small
businesses.
You
know
we
we've
done
this
for
many
many
years,
I
I
would
say
in
the
last
you
know
three.
I
Four
years,
we've
really
become
substantial,
even
more
so
than
we
were
before
an
investor
in
our
small
business
community.
This
is
just
through
three
quarters
of
2021,
but
we've,
you
know
at
this
point
have
invested
more
than
six
million
dollars
directly
in
our
small
business
community,
which
is
leveraged
nearly
60
million,
so
almost
ten
to
one
dollars
per
one
dollar
in
investment
over
80
about
80
percent
of
these
loans
have
supported
minority
women's
business
enterprise
businesses,
which
we
really
should
be
we're
very
proud
of.
I
You
know
this
past
year,
and
especially
with
the
pandemic
and
sort
of
a
you
know,
the
need
to
make
sure
that
businesses
not
just
had
access
to
capital,
but
access
to
resources.
We
did
quite
a
bit
of
work
on
wayfinding
and
business
education
and
webinars
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
that
our
small
business
community
had
access
to
not
only
capital
dollars
but
also
to
education
of
resources
to
access
the
the
tools
that
they
need,
and
you
know,
and
it's
it's
a
tremendous
impact
and.
M
I
Speaking
on
this,
but
I'll
just
say
this-
I
know
jennifer's
here,
but
jennifer,
wilhelm
and
jennifer's
team
here
at
the
area
have
just
done
an
unbelievable
job.
Frankly
in
this
work,
and
we
should
we're
very
proud
of
that-
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
in
addition
to
our
investment
in
small
businesses.
You
know
we
we're
we're
a
business
maker
job
creator,
we're
also
a
place
maker
right,
so
we
invest
as
in
a
very
traditional
way,
sort
of
the
development
of
land
and
disposition
of
land
into
bricks
and
mortar
development.
I
We
accomplished
that
as
a
through
our
land
disposition
and
development
process
at
greg.
At
the
top
of
this,
you
mentioned
our
our
neighborhood
initiatives
fund,
which
invests
directly
in
community-led
and
communal
driven
development
projects,
but
we
continue
to
do.
This
is
a
significant
source
of
our
business,
so
to
speak.
You
know,
as
we
sit
here
today
through
three
quarters:
2021,
we
have
more
than
half
a
billion
dollars
in
sort
of
total
project
costs
and
process.
I
In
addition
to
investing
directly
and
sort
of
activating
storefronts
and
activating
commercial
corridor
activity-
and
you
know
want
to
provide
this
here-
I
will
say
I
know
the
public's
watching
this
and
folks
may
watch
this
on
youtube.
I
would
say
that
you
know
anyone
out
there.
Who's
starting
a
business
has
a
business,
that's
growing
here
in
the
city.
You
really
should
feel
you
know.
Please
contact
us.
We
can
help
lots
of
folks
go
to
our
website.
Talk
to
your
council
office,
whatever
the
right.
I
The
best
means
is
for
you,
but
we
are
here
to
help
and
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
resources
are
not
only
available
too,
but
you
know
we
as
proactive
as
possible
to
make
sure
folks
are
engaging
with
us
as
to
their
opportunities,
and
we
can
explore
ways
we
can
help
you
with
that.
I
think
I
turn
it
over
to
joe
for
the
next
slide.
If
I,
if
that's
correct,
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
so
from
here.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
joe
thanks.
Thank.
S
You
tom
and
yeah,
thank
you,
everyone
and,
as
mr
schrellick
explained,
our
allocation
includes
9.5
million
dollars
if
the
city's
capital
budget
has
broken
down
here
on
these
line
items,
this
is
made
up
of
cdbg,
paygo
and
home
allocation.
Cdbg
is
6.5
million
dollars,
pago
is
837
000,
and
the
remainder
of
2.2
million
dollars
is
home.
So
we
will
walk
you
through
each
of
this
with
members
of
our
team
and
to
start
will
be
our
assistant
director
of
policy
and
development.
Nick
fedoric.
K
Thanks
joe,
so
we're
going
to
go
through
and
we're
going
to
start
with
the
affordable
unit
activation
line
item
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
This
line
item
will
provide
financing
for
the
rehab
and
redevelopment
for
properties
that
are
already
owned
by
the
ura.
The
goal
is
to
take
currently
vacant
ura
on
buildings
that
are
in
poor
condition
and
use
this
financing
to
convert
them
into
small
business
space
for
local
entrepreneurs
and
affordable
rental
units
for
low-income
households.
K
Go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
the
vacant
property
in
this
picture
is
on
perrysville
avenue
and
carrying
north
it's
ura
owned.
The
ura
owns
many
structures
in
a
similar
condition
all
over
the
city
and
many
of
these
ureon
structures
such
as
this
one
would
be
an
ideal
location
for
new
small
businesses.
K
However,
the
issue
we
face
is
that
the
rehab
costs
associated
with
making
the
building
usable
are
very
high,
so
there's
often
interest
from
potential
businesses,
tenants
or
developers,
but
the
rehab
costs
associated
with
our
structures
make
these
types
of
small-scale
properties
infeasible,
and
the
result
is
that
the
ura
continues
to
pay
holding
costs
and
property
maintenance
on
its
buildings
without
a
viable
path
for
redevelopment
due
to
the
high
rehab
costs.
So
the
commercial
inventory
activation
will
break
this
pattern
by
providing
gap.
K
Some
examples
across
the
city
that
we'd
like
to
use
this
on
the
central
helmand,
plaza
in
the
hill
district,
redeveloping
30,
000
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
6714
keller
street
in
homewood,
redeveloping
a
formal
medical
clinic
at
4
000
square
feet
of
mixed
use
and
1319
to
25
5th
avenue
and
uptown
4
000
square
feet
again
excellent
space
for
local
businesses.
Potentially
these
are
just
a
few.
You
know
we
have
ideas
all
over
the
city
that
this
commercial
inventory
activation
would
work
for.
I
Thanks
nick
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
then
the
next.
This
is
tom
link
again
the
next.
The
next
line
item
here
is
300
000
for
workforce
development.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
think
whoever's
controlling
the
slides
thanks
so
much
the
intent
of
these
dollars
would
be.
You
know,
as
we
mentioned
at
the
top,
and
to
our
impact.
I
We've
had
success
with
programs
like
expungement
clinics
and
some
you
know,
programs
around
commercial
drivers
license
and
others
that
we've
sort
of
piloted
that's
been
successful
in
helping
our
small
business
community
and
also
in
the
child
care
side
actually
to
build
us
skill
sets
necessary
to
access
workforce.
This
would
be
to
invest
directly
in
our
small
business
community
in
that
way
to
create
quality
jobs
and
have
specific
resources
to
ensure
that
the
folks
that
are
accessing
the
jobs
are
able
to
get.
I
T
T
Currently
there's
about
1400
in
our
in
our
land
care,
bundles,
divided
up
between
11
firms
and
the
the
providers
track.
Their
care
on
an
app
license
fee
is
paid
for
by
the
ura,
and
over
the
years
we've
had
four
mve
firms
that
have
started
in
year,
one
and
have
grown
to
take
on
larger
bundles
each
year.
T
At
the
same
time,
there's
some
work:
that's
outside
of
the
scope
of
of
smaller
land
care
providers,
side,
rock
repairs,
some
demolition
or
some
you
know
stabilization
of
multi-story
buildings.
So
a
portion
of
this
fund
will
go
if
this
request
will
go
to
stabilize
buildings
and
make
sidewalks
safe
with
contractors
procured
through
the
same
way
looking
for
small
and
local
contractors.
V
Thank
you,
nathan.
Our
next
item
is
the
equitable
empowerment
program.
Next
slide,
please,
this
program
has
come
to
you
before
and
have
you
have
generously
supported
it?
It
is
a
technical
assistance
program
for
developers
and
business
owners
who
want
to
own
their
own
real
estate
in
their
own
neighborhoods,
and
it
is
critical
in
order
to
keep
ownership
and
equity
of
the
people
that
live
there
in
the
neighborhoods.
V
We
have
had
great
success
in
this
program.
Thus
far.
In
fact,
you
see
tom
boyd
here
of
big
tom's.
Barber
shop
is
a
prime
example.
Groundbreaking
is
tomorrow
for
this
amazing
project,
which
he
will
own
his
own
commercial
building
with
affordable
apartments
on
the
top,
and
his
barbershop
will
be
going
into
this
beautiful
space
when
it
is
finished
and
renovated,
and
all
that
was
made
possible
through
this
program
and
the
one-on-one
technical
assistance
that
he
received
free
of
charge
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
value
remains
in
these
critical
communities.
N
So
first,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
our
neighborhood
initiatives
fund
that
we
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
this
fund.
I
know
a
lot
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
assists
nonprofit
and
community
based
organizations
with
neighborhood
scale
projects
within
their
neighborhoods,
primarily,
but
not
only
in
commercial
corridors.
N
N
N
They
also
purchased
properties
next
to
their
their
current
building
and
the
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
that
we
awarded
is
enabling
them
to
do
the
necessary
pre-development
studies.
This
will
enable
them
to
either
even
do
even
further
expansion
of
their
important
services
in
the
south
side
and
south
hilltop
communities.
The
next
slide,
please.
N
So
this
is
a
a
a
project
that
we
just
funded
this
year
in
our
2021
round:
523
527,
larmer
avenue.
This
is
a
large
mixed
use.
Building
on
larm
avenue
right
in
the
middle
of
their
business
district,
they
received
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
award.
The
total
project
cost
is
171
000
for
a
facade
reconstruction.
N
N
This
is
okay.
This
is
kind
of
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
work
that
we
do
in
our
business
districts.
This
is
everything
from
direct
assistance
to
our
groups,
like
the
sidewalk
sales
program,
planning
activities,
our
avenues
of
hope,
storefront,
facade
program,
that's
coming
up
in
2022,
as
well
as
training
and
technical
assistance
for
our
business
district
groups.
Any
of
the
help
that
that
we
can
provide
to
them
in
solving
the
issues
that
they
they
have
in
their
business
districts
next
slide.
N
We
in
terms
of
the
the
money
that's
been
spent,
we
have
given
grants,
ranging
from
fifteen
hundred
to
three
thousand
dollars
to
our
business
district
organizations
throughout
the
city
to
help
their
businesses
operate
safely
during
during
the
pandemic,
whether
it's
doing
business
outside
or
providing
cleaning
products
and
tips
and
activities
to
to
do
business
safely.
Throughout
the
pandemic,
we
awarded
40
grants
over
two
years
the
total
amount
awarded
was
78
500.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
This
we've
helped
nearly
around
50
minority
and
women-owned
businesses.
These
are
retail
businesses,
they've
gone
through
the
12-month
entrepreneurship
cohort.
We
opened
the
gallery
on
penn
with
catapult
in
2018,
and
the
gallery
on
center
on
center
avenue
is
slated
to
open
in
2022,
but
also
as
a
result
of
our
support.
The
catapult.
Greater
pittsburgh
has
created
two
other
programs
that
are
helping
small
businesses
throughout
the
city.
N
One
is
catapult
culinary
so
currently
the
first
cohort
is
15
minority
and
and
women-owned
food-based
businesses
that
just
this
summer
began
a
12-12-month
cohort,
they're,
very
strong
partnerships
with
giant
eagle
and
with
food
21
and
are
also
some
of
the
businesses
are
working
in
fulton
commons,
which
is
also
a
ura
client
in
using
their
commercial
kitchen
space,
and
the
last
is
possibly
my
favorite,
which
is
the
catapult
kids
program.
This
is
a
cohort
for
youth
entrepreneurs
in
2021.
N
N
So
the
other
the
example
of
business
assistance
that
we
that
we
provide
is
our
get
online
grow
online
program.
This
is
a
program
that
was
we
we
working
with
with
neighborhood
allies.
We
came
up
with
this
in
mid
2020
to
help
businesses
kind
of
pivot
to
an
online
program
to
be
able
to
keep
their
businesses
going.
N
He
basically
utilized
social
media
and
and
online
advertising
and
increased
his
business
exponentially
over
the
course
of
the
the
pandemic
and
the
other
is
hilltop.
Pharmacy
hilltop
pharmacy
used
this
this
program
to
increase
their
online
capacity
and
they
launched
a
scheduling
and
intake
system
that
then
enabled
them
to
host
large
covid
vaccination
clinics.
They
were
right
on
right
in
front
of
of
the
coven
vaccination
program
in
early
2021,
especially
with
the
senior
citizen
population
in
the
hilltop
communities.
U
Thanks
joseph,
the
housing
lending
team
is
requesting
six
million
dollars
in
home
and
cdbg
funds
to
support
our
consumer
residential
lending
programs.
We'll
start
first
with
the
home
accessibility
program
for
independence,
otherwise
known
as
happy
next
slide.
Please
happy
provides
grants
to
homeowners
and
renters
who
are
elderly
or
have
permanent
disabilities
to
make
accessibility
modifications
to
their
homes.
We
are
requesting
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
cdbg
funds
for
this
program.
U
U
U
U
The
homeowner
assistance
program,
otherwise
known
as
hap
next
slide,
the
homa
hap
provides
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
of
financing
to
homeowners
at
or
below
eighty
percent
ami
to
make
necessary
and
critical
repairs
to
the
home.
We
are
requesting
one
point:
one
million
dollars
in
cdbg
funds
for
this
program.
U
U
U
Next
up
is
the
affordable
for
sale
program,
the
affordable
for
sale
line
item
funds,
our
for
sale,
development
program,
otherwise
known
as
fsdp
fsdp
is
used
to
help
fund
the
creation
of
new,
affordable
housing
and
or
preserve
existing
affordable
housing
for
home
ownership.
In
the
city
we
are
requesting
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
cdbg
funds
and
200
in
home
funds
to
support
this
program.
U
U
U
Here
are
a
few
examples
of
our
more
recent
investments
you
can
see
before
after.
However,
the
picture
is
a
little
warped
for
the
upper
hill
district
image,
but
you'll
see
a
home
in
hazelwood,
garfield
and
upper
hill,
and
all
of
these
homes
were
sold
between
85
and
180
thousand
dollars,
two
home
buyers
at
80
area
of
median
income
or
less
acknowledging
that
the
sale
price
that
I
have
listed
here.
U
U
The
2022,
cdbg
and
home
requested
funds
will
primarily
support
2022
nine
percent,
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
developments
next
slide,
and
here
are
a
few
examples
of
our
more
recent
rgp
developments
that
were
that
utilize,
cdbg
and
home
funds
on
the
top
right.
You'll
see
the
new
granada
square
apartments
in
the
hill
district
and
on
the
bottom.
That
is
harvard
beatty
and
east
liberty,
both
nine
percent
low
income,
housing
tax
credits,
and
with
that
I
will
hand
this
presentation
over
to
joe
karlovitz
director
of
finance.
S
S
S
P
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
Hopefully
we
got
that
through
that,
without
too
much
pain.
I
think
we
came
in
about
five
minutes
shy
of
the
45
minute
time
allotment.
We,
we
said
at
the
outset
again
appreciate
your
attention
to
this
and
support
that
you
have
demonstrated
to
us
in
years
past,
and
I
guess
with
that
we'll
open
it
up.
J
J
Oh
mr
kyle
kelly
you're
there
and
I
also
see
for
the
record
councilman
wilson
in
the
zoom
councilman
lavelle,
councilwoman,
strasberger
and
councilman
burgess,
and
I
believe,
if
I
was,
I
think
we
still
have
councilman
smith
watching
online,
but
not
online
with
us.
So
if
you
mind
I'll
just
start
at
the
top
with
councilman,
coghill
and
chambers
and
then
I'll
just
work
down
my
participant
list,
I
think
we
were
all
here.
At
the
same
time,.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
welcome
to
all
from
the
ura.
I
don't
want
to
begin
to
try
to
name
you
all,
but
welcome
to
everybody.
So
I'll
just
keep
it
real
brief.
You
know
I
originally
I
mean
it's
a
lot
to
digest.
I
know
you
have
your
hands
in
a
lot
of
different
pots
here,
a
lot
of
different
projects
but
shayna.
I
guess
this
question
is
probably
directed
to
you,
the
home
accessibility
program
that
we
offer
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars.
B
U
Yeah,
let
me
just
clarify
some
of
the
information
that
you
just
stated.
The
home
accessibility
program
is
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
in
the
form
of
a
grant,
but
the
homeowner
assistance
program
is
the
program
that
provides
financing
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
make
modifications
to
a
home
and
the
way
that
the
program
is
structured
is
for
homeowners
that
are
below
50
of
the
area.
U
U
It's
it's
forgiven
for
the
rest
of
the
life
of
the
term,
while
the
homeowner
is
living
there
for
the
homeowner
assistance
program.
There
is
that
program
targets
homeowners
between
50
and
80
percent
of
the
area,
median
income,
a
portion
of
the
loan
is
deferred
and
forgiven
and
a
portion
of
it
is
repaid.
B
U
D
U
B
Sure,
okay,
so
we
call
it
a
loan,
but
essentially
it's
really
not
alone.
It's
you
know.
So,
okay,
that's
that's
fine!
On
that.
The
other
thing
was,
and
we
have
not
touched
on
this.
I
know
the
arpa
funds
that
are
being
allocated
to
you
know
to
the
ura
was
in
and
forgive
me
for
not
knowing
the
number,
but
how
much
was
it
that
we
will
be
allocating
to
the
ura
from
the
recent
arpa
funds.
Q
B
B
P
P
So
this
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
fund
an
organization
that
historically
has
not
been
funded
and
the
the
remainder
of
the
large
large
part
of
the
remainder
of
it
is
to
basically
help
launch
additional
programs
that
we
believe
we
have
a
pipeline
to
help
fund,
including
things
like
energy
efficiency,
funding,
the
community,
land,
trust
city,
bridges,
community
land,
trust
so
yeah.
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
a
hard
time,
deploying
the
funds
and
and
to
answer
your
question.
P
None
of
it's
going
to
go
into
a
ura
bank
account
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
spent
and
it
has
to
be
spent
within
a
three-year
window
as
promulgated
by
the
feds.
So,
yes,
we
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
we
have
it
programmed
and
we
believe
we
can
push
the
money
out
and
push
it
out
responsibly
and
in
a
manner
that
is
compliant
to
our
mission.
And
what
we've
been
asked
to
do
by
the
city.
B
B
We
could
throw
it
at
this
and
that,
but
to
do
it
responsibly,
I
would
think,
takes
a
lot
of
planning
and
a
lot
of
insight
and
a
lot
of
meetings
back
and
forth
as
to
what
projects
we
put
this
into
so
just
want
to
make
sure
you
had
a
plan
for
it.
I
assumed
you
did
that's
it
for
me,
madam
chair,
I
thank
you
and
back
to
you.
A
Q
So
that's
an
excellent
question
director
wilson,
so
part
of
so
you
do.
You
did
not
see
an
ass
specifically
for
the
land
bank
in
this
particular
capital
budget.
Ask
it
was
not
included
in
the
the
budget
that
was
approved
by
the
mayor's
office.
However,
it
is
our
position
that
that
the
capital
budget
should
include
and
incorporate
an
allocation
for
the
pittsburgh
land
bank.
Q
You
know
in
the
years
to
come,
although
we
received
the
10
million
allocation
from
arpa,
as
we
just
discussed
that
money
is
finite
and
it
has
to
be
spent
by
a
certain.
You
know
it
within
a
certain
time
period.
The
prioritization
will
be
the
acquisition,
stabilization
and
stewardship
of
tax
delinquent
properties
and
to
rapidly
clear
title
and
remove
lien
from
that
property,
and
that
is
how
the
arpa
dollars
will
be
used.
Q
We
believe
that
an
augmentation
from
the
capital
budget
would
further
support
being
able
to
help
these
properties
move
to
the
disposition
process,
as
well
as
help
with
some
conservatorship
assistance
and
some
other
critical
needs
around
the
pittsburgh
land
bank.
So
the
focus
is
definitely
on
being
able
to
acquire
and
clear
title
on
those
those
properties.
A
Q
That
is
one
of
the
reasons
why,
in
2021,
the
land
bank
became
an
affiliate
of
the
ura
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
some
of
those
back-end
supports
and
keep
the
overhead
costs
of
the
land
bank
relatively
low,
so
that
most
of
the
focus
goes
on
goes
to
the
actual
structures
and
being
able
to
to
reduce
the
blight.
That's
currently
plaguing
our
city.
So
yes,
you
you
have
that
correct.
We
believe
that
there's
a
long
long-term
relationship
between
the
plb
and
the
ura
and
that
they
should
be
complementary
to
one
another.
Q
In
that
you
know
not
every
project
or
not
every
parcel
will
be
suitable
for
ura
development,
and
we
can
leverage
the
land
bank
to
become
sort
of
a
first
front
door
for
land
recycling
in
the
city,
to
reduce
some
of
our
dysfunction
that
we
see
between
these
three.
These
three
coordinated
bodies,
the
city,
the
plb
and
the
ura.
A
U
So
the
home
arp
funds
really
have
a
focus
on
homeless
prevention,
and
my
understanding
is
that
omb
is
going
through
an
analysis
of
how
to
expend
and
disperse
those
dollars.
So
what
I'm
requesting
for
you
to
support
our
for
sale,
development
and
our
rental
gap
program
is
different
than
that
legislation
that
you're
referencing.
A
Okay,
yeah
thanks
for
that
clarity,
I
just
the
term
home
has
been
used
a
couple
times.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
I'm
talking
about
the
same,
because
those
restrict
those
that's
a
very
targeted
population
for
the
ones
that
I'm
talking
about.
So
I
just
just
want
to
clarify
that
thanks.
So
that
takes
care
of
that.
I
did
have
a
general
question
about
cbg
funding
and-
and-
and
you
know
it
seems
like
there
is
this-
this
separate
cdbg
process
that
happens
on
your
side.
A
I
mean:
are
there
any
duplicated
services
that
we
are
tasked
that
we're
doing
since
we
have
a
an
office?
You
know
whitney
and
and
david
hutchinson
work
closely
with
you
know,
making
sure
those
cvg
funds
are
being
used
appropriately.
I
mean,
is
there
a
whole
separate
office
in
the
ura
and
like
what
can
you
just
explain
that.
Q
So
there's
no
duplication
of
services.
I
think
it's
there's
a
complementation
to
the
omb
function
that
nests
within
our
finance
and
compliance
department,
and
so
the
city
is
essentially
the
pj
or
the
primary
jurisdiction
to
receive
those
cdbg
dollars,
and
they
have
to
ensure
that
the
dollars
that
are
being
deployed
to
the
ura
are
done
in
a
compliant
manner.
Q
So
we
work
in
a
coordinated
manner,
meeting
weekly
to
talk
through
priorities
and
projects
and
any
timeliness
issues
that
might
occur
to
make
sure
that
we
are
being
responsible
stewards
in
upholding
the
pj's
obligation
to
to
hud
joe
carlovitz.
Our
director
of
finance
is
on
the
call,
and
can
you
know
add
any
color
to
that
that
I
may
not
have
covered
there.
S
S
I
think
a
little
higher
than
that
we're
a
sub-recipient
of
their
funds
and
a
large
sub-recipient.
So
we
have
the
timeliness
requirements,
as
dr
walker
mentioned,
as
well
as
all
of
the
spending
requirements
that
are
governed
by
hud,
so
really
more,
in
a
partnership
with
them,
probably
than
some
of
the
smaller
sub
recipients,
but
essentially
the
same.
That's
all
governed
through
the
co-op
that
we
do
send
through
council
for
approval
and
explains
kind
of
the
process
that
we
follow,
which
does
include
omb
having
prior
approval
of
our
programs
and
projects.
Q
U
Yeah
it's
an
interesting
question.
Our
rental
gap
program
has
supported
single
rock
single
room,
occupancy
buildings
like
wood
street
commons
center
of
y
and
then
as
dr
diamante
referenced
our
hsp
program,
which
is
our
eviction
prevention
program,
which
provides
up
to
three
months
worth
of
funding
to
renters
or
homeowners,
to
help
pay
for
utilities
or
mortgage
assistance
or
rent
assistance.
U
M
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Oh
again,
thank
you
to
everyone
at
the
ura.
For
all
you
do.
I
think
I
said
this
at
the
city
planning
as
well.
I
don't
think
most
residents,
the
city
of
pittsburgh
or
business
owners
or
visitors,
understand
the
breadth
of
the
ura's
responsibilities
and
all
that
impact
that
you
make.
So
I
just
on
behalf
of
them
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
for
residents,
business
owners
and
more.
H
H
P
Yeah
definitely
I
I
will
answer
that
by
saying
I'm
a
planner
by
training,
so
planner
who's
turned
to
to
be
an
economic
development,
redevelopment,
professional,
so
yeah
we
have,
I
think,
nick
fedorcs
on
the
phone
we
have
weekly
or
bi-weekly
meetings
with
department
of
city
planning,
to
coordinate
activities
and
nick
is
very
much
involved
and
other
staff
are
very
much
involved
as
well
as
I
in
those
meetings.
So
we
do.
You
have
an
understanding
of
where
the
priorities
are
where
the
city
is
doing
comprehensive
plans.
P
We
talked
early
on
pretty
pretty
frequently
about
linking
our
avenues
of
hope,
work
to
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
to
make
sure
that
they
were
working
in
sync
and
that
we
were
leveraging
the
maximum
amount
of
resources
we
possibly
could
into
the
avenues
but
yeah.
I
think
I'll
turn
over
to
nick
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
But
yeah
nick
is
very
involved
with
the
department
of
city
planning
and
who's.
Nick
is
also
a
planner,
so
nick.
K
Thanks
greg,
I
am
also
a
planner,
I
love
planning
and
I'm
the
primary
liaison
between
the
ura
and
department
of
city
planning,
so
yeah.
Everything
that
greg
said
is
completely
accurate.
You
know
we
collaborate
a
lot.
You
know
on
the
upcoming.
You
know
we
just
heard
city
planning's
presentation,
some
of
the
projects
that
you
know
they're
implementing,
for
instance
the
inclusionary
zoning
overlays
that
they're
looking
to
implement
the
housing
needs
assessment,
which
is
a
major
endeavor
that
they'll
need
some
ura
data
to
actually
implement
properly.
K
You
know
we're
collaborating
on
that.
You
know
and,
like
greg
said,
the
community
outreach,
especially
with
our
avenues
of
hope
program,
is
a
huge
collaboration
with
city
planning,
so
we
are
really
locked
up
whenever
there's
a
neighborhood
plan.
There's
a
ura
representative
on
that
steering
committee,
usually
on
the
development
portion
and
then
in
turn,
we
engage
with
the
neighborhood
planners
at
city
planning
pretty
much
every
time.
We
issue
an
rfp
for
a
redevelopment
proposal
in
our
neighborhoods
and
it
involved
them.
K
H
Thank
you
so
that
I
mean
I'm
glad
those
conversations
are
happening.
Are
you
talking
about?
Are
you
having
conversations
about
the
types
of
policies
that
the
city
would
need
to
pass
to
help
further
the
efforts
around
and
lower
the
cost
around
building
new
or
preserving,
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing.
K
Absolutely
yeah
actually,
prior
to
working
at
the
ura,
I
was
a
consultant.
I
worked
on.
The
original
housing
needs
assessment
that
was
conducted
as
one
of
the
primary
researchers,
so
I
I
know
that
study
very
well
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
that
updated.
We
will
absolutely
be
working
with
them.
You
know
we
bring
the
kind
of
development
perspective
into
the
planning
process,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
by
collaborating
we
get
a
much
deeper
project.
K
P
I
should
mention
too,
that
on
the
housing
side,
yeah
conversations
are
happening.
We
will
fully
admit
that
more
of
them
need
to
happen.
One
link
between
our
organization
and
the
city's
department
of
city
planning
we
both
work
with
hrna,
consulting
and
hrna,
is
currently
working
on
the
city's
housing
element
of
the
comp
plan
and,
on
the
other
side
of
that,
hra
is
working
with
us
to
make
sure
that
our
arsenal
programs
link
with
sync
with
what
may
be
needed
from
a
housing
from
housing
policy
standpoint
to
make
sure
that
they're
connected.
P
But
a
lot
of
us
here
at
the
ura
have
a
professional
interest,
a
deep
one
in
affordable
housing,
and
we
realize
it's
something
we
can't
subsidize
our
way
out
of
there.
There
needs
to
be
a
whole
a
whole.
You
know
arsenal
of
programs
that
that
apply
to
affordable
housing,
affordability,
it
needs
to
be
a
full
court
press.
It
can't
be
a
handful
of
subsidy
programs.
It
involves
zoning
permitting,
yes,
subsidies,
land
development,
land
clearance,
so
these
are
conversations
that
we
want
to
have
more
of
with
the
city
planning
department.
H
My
second
and
last
question
is
really
more
of
a
lack
of
understanding
of
a
paperwork
or
administrative
item
that
might
be
bigger
than
just
that,
but
not
sure
who's
appropriate
the
appropriate
person
to
answer
whether
that's
council,
budget
office
or
ura,
the
housing
opportunity
fund,
10
million
dollars
transferring
from
department
of
finances
budget
to
the
five-year
plan.
Is
it's
similar
to
the
paygo
transfer
to
the
capital
budget?
H
O
O
It's
not
reflected
in
what
the
department
of
finance
does
and
we
moved
it
forward
into
the
front
of
the
budget
where
there's
also
the
tran
larger
transfers,
like
the
transfer
to
the
capital
fund,
the
transfer
to
the
early
childhood
fund-
and
I
think,
a
couple
other
large
transfers
have
lived
there
over
the
years.
So.
H
J
J
L
I
don't
have
any
any
questions
really.
I
just
want
to
thank
greg
and
giamani
and
the
ura
staff
I
work
very
closely
with
them
have
worked
very
close
with
them
and
stuff
in
our
district.
One
of
the
things,
though
I
I
will
say,
and
I
think,
having
done
multiple
planning
processes
simply
adding
a
planner
or
two
to
any
department,
will
not
make
it
more
able
to
do
comprehensive
community
planning
right.
L
There
are
multiple
elements
that
one
would
have
to
do
and
if
you
wanted
to
not
use
consultants
to
do
comprehensive
community
planning,
you
would
have
to
intentionally
add
a
number
of
staff.
Not
just
community
planners
you'd
have
to
you'd
have
to
hire
a
multitude
of
experts
in
various
areas
to
replicate
what
you
can
get
by
hiring
consultants.
We
don't
just
hire
them
because
you
want
to
it
is.
L
It
is
not
as
easy
as
you
think
it
takes
multiple
expertises
that
if
you
had
on
staff
would
be
very
expensive
and
so
we're
not
hiring
two
or
three
you
know.
Community
planners
will
not
give
you
the
capacity
to
do
comprehensive
community
planning
on
the
neighborhood
level.
It
would
take
multiple,
multiple
investments
in
employees
to
replicate
that
kind
of
strength,
but
I
do
think
I
do
think.
I
do
think
that
what
we
can
do
as
council
and
I'll
stay
with.
L
I
do
think,
and
I
I
I'm
going
to
stay
locked
up
with
with
mr
usberger
on
that.
I
think
we
can.
We
can
play
an
important
part
in
public
engagement
right.
Public
engagement
has
always
been
a
council
prerogative,
something
that
we
did
actually
maybe
15
20
years
ago.
It
was
even
more
central
to
to
our
work
than
now,
and
so
I
think
that
I'll
stay
with
that
part
of
it
anyway.
Ura
you
do
a
great
job,
I'm
a
fan
of
greg
and
diamante's.
J
Thank
you,
councilman
I'll,
just
ask
a
few
questions
because
I
it's
been.
It
has
been
we're
going
on
now
about
our
third
or
fourth
hour
into
this
hearing.
That
councilman
smith
was
asking
me
questions
that
I
couldn't
answer,
and
that
was
this
in
the
budget
numbers
that
you
presented
in
your
your
slideshow.
J
We
saw
about
12
million
dollars
for
payroll,
and
then
we
also
were
looking
at
the
requested
funds
from
capital
funds
and
cdbg
funds,
and
it
wasn't
obvious
to
me
which
of
those
funds
were
from
which
sources
and
for
which
uses.
So
is
that
10
million
dollars
for
direct
investments
in
the
lending
and
in
the
subsequent.
S
The
it
roughly
comes
from
70
of
revenue,
generating
programs
and
services
that
we
do,
whether
it's
our
lending,
whether
it's
our
property,
that
we
lease
or
rent
or
we
sell
property
investments
we
make
our
finances,
are
our
balance
sheet
and
in
financial
statements
are
available
on
our
website.
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
dig
in
a
little
more
and
provide
council
a
little
bit
further
of
analysis
on
that
number.
V
Absolutely
so
you
are
correct
your
dollars
helped
us
to
leverage
and
raise
additional
dollars
for
child
care.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
have
successfully
completed
a
first
cohort
of
classes
with
in
partnership
with
chatham
university.
They
did
run
two
classes,
one
for
existing
child
care
providers
and
one
for
new
child
care
providers
immensely
successful.
We
had
more
applications
and
slots,
and
so
there
will
be
a
second
round
of
each
of
those
classes
that
will
be
starting
in
the
next
semester.
V
So
we're
super
excited
about
that.
We
do
have
a
forgivable
child
care
loan
that
was
launched
and
we
fund
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
which
I'm
sorry
up
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
a
forgivable
loan
for
child
care
providers
who
need
you
know
dollars
for
either
helping
to
get
to
the
next
star
level,
certifications.
V
You
know
making
sure
the
space
meets
the
criteria
working
capital
to
help
get
people
on
board
to
get
to
that
second,
third
or
fourth
star,
so
that
has
been
successful
and
we've
put
out
numerous
forgivable
loans
across
the
city.
To
date,
we
still
have
money
in
that
program
and
we'll
be
continuing
to
run
it
until
it
is.
It's
totally
expended.
V
We
are
just
tweaking
it
a
bit
making
sure
that
it's
as
valuable
as
possible,
and
we
do
already
have
pilot
child
care
providers
that
are
ready
to
go
into
that
program,
and
so
really
what
we've
been
able
to
create
with
your
support,
is
a
full
circle.
Opportunity
of
education,
technical
support
and
financing.
J
Well,
I'm
so
glad
to
hear
that
it's
been
a
long
time
coming.
It
was
certainly
timely,
but
it
was
needed
anyway,
but
we
know
how
greatly
the
the
covet
has
exacerbated
people's
issues
around
child
care,
both
for
the
child
care
operators,
but
also
the
families
that
are
depending
on
child
care,
and
we
know
that
these
are
businesses
that
are
almost
entirely
women
done
businesses.
J
R
Council,
member
gross,
we
can
pull
up
the
hof's
annual
allocation
plan,
which
was
in
front
of
council
a
few
weeks
ago.
If
you
like
to
walk
through
that
again-
and
I
know
there
are
members
of
the
public
tuning
in
today-
that
might
not
have
been
tuned
in
during
that
discussion
a
few
weeks
ago.
So
we
can
pull
that
up
and
then
I
don't
think
we
have
much
to
present
on
for
the
pittsburgh
land
bank.
R
I
did
not
receive
proposed
funding
in
the
mayor's
budget
and
I
believe
the
land
bank
board
is
still
discussing
exactly
how
they
want
to
budget
and
allocate
the
arpa
funding,
which
will
also
be
subject
to
sort
of
omb
and
city
law
approval.
So
there
just
isn't
much
to
discuss
there
yet.
So
we
can
pull
up
the
hof
annual
allocation
plan,
though.
V
U
Great,
thank
you
david
here.
You
can
see
our
10
million
allocation
plan
for
2022
was
presented
recently
and
you'll
see
we'll
just
take
a
million
dollars
at
the
bottom
for
administration,
and
then
we
can
look
at
the
programs
up
above
that
implement
the
affordable
housing
priorities
of
the
housing
opportunity
fund
advisory
committee.
A
number
of
these
programs
will
look
familiar
because
I
went
over
them
in
the
earlier
presentation
for
the
capital
budget.
Some
of
our
programs
are
multi-sourced
by
housing,
opportunity,
fund,
cdbg
and
home.
Specifically,
that
would
be
the
rental
gap
program.
U
U
Next
up
is
the
housing
stabilization
program,
and
this
is
our
program
to
help
evict.
Excuse
me
to
help
prevent
evictions
for
homeowners
and
renters
within
the
city.
It's
really
a
short-term
support
system
for
up
to
three
months
for
three
thousand
dollars
for
renters
and
six
thousand
dollars
for
homeowners,
and
those
funds
can
support
move-in
assistance
first
and
last
month's
rent
security
deposits,
utility
arrears
and
upcoming
rent
arrears.
Mortgage
assistance
and
then,
of
course,
legal
assistance-
that
line
item
totals
525
000.
U
down
payment
assistance,
d,
dp
ccap.
This
helps
our
first
time
home
buyers.
The
program
supports
our
home
buyers
through
funding
at
the
closing
and
purchase
of
a
home.
There
are
two
levels
of
this
purchase.
It's
of
this
funding.
It's
5
7
500,
to
support
our
first-time
buyers
that
meet
our
income
requirements
and
you'll,
see
there's
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
that
program.
U
Homeowner
assistant
program.
This
is
the
same
program
I
talked
about
earlier,
that
is
being
funded
or
being
requested
to
fund
be
funded
by
cdbg.
This
is
for
homeowners
to
help
make
repairs
to
the
homes
that
they
currently
live
in
predominantly
structured
as
a
different
forgivable
loan.
But
there
are
portions
of
it
that
are
amortizing
depending
on
your
ami
level
for
sale.
Development
program
has
a
funding
amount
of
950
000
again.
This
supports
the
development
of
housing
to
be
sold
to
future
home
buyers
at
80,
ami
or
less
legal
assistance
program.
U
This
program
helps
tenants
and
homeowners
to
address
legal
issues
that
they're
having
associated
with
their
housing
situation,
whether
it
is
rental
or
homeownership
that
program
is
funded
in
the
amount
of
450
000
and
then
the
small
landlord
fund.
This
is
a
new
program
that
the
housing
opportunity
fund
is
looking
to
fund.
U
That
program
does
have
a
deed
restriction,
similar
to
our
rental
gap
and
our
for
sale
development
program,
the
deed
restriction
is
10
years
and
and
we're
seeing
a
an
uptick
in
this
in
interest
from
our
smaller
landlords
over
the
last
year.
Since
it
was
rolled
out
with
internal
funds
that
we
have
at
the
ura,
we
wanted
to
test
the
waters
and
see
if
there
was
interest
in
the
program
started
off
slow
and
now
that
word
is
out
about
this
program.
U
J
Thank
you
is
that
it,
it
is
wonderful.
You
can
take
down
the
shared
screen
and
I'm
going
to
ask
if
again
once
again,
if
there's
anyone
left
in
chambers,
because
I
can't
really
see
into
chambers
and
if
not,
it
looks
like,
we
still
have
councilwoman
strasburger
and
councilman
burgess,
so
no
one
in
chambers
so
I'll
hand
it
over.
Since
I've
been
going
to
councilwoman
strasburger
first
and
making
councilman
burgess
wait.
Councilman
burgess,
let
me
allow
you
to
go
first.
J
Not
sure,
if
he's
still
in
front
of
the
screen,
it's
hard
on
these
long,
I'm
sure
people
at
home
can
relate
when
you've
been
in
front
of
your
zoom
screen
for
many
hours
at
a
time
just
like
when
we're
in
chambers.
Sometimes
you
have
to
step
away
from
the
table,
so
councilwoman
sprouts
strasberger.
If
you're
there
do.
You
have
any
questions.
J
J
U
For
stabilizing
current
housing,
I
think
we
see
those
investments
through
our
housing,
our
home
ownership
assistance,
program,
hap,
and
so
that
was
presented
during
the
capital
budget
request
earlier.
It's
also
funded
through
the
home,
the
housing
opportunity
fund.
Sorry,
it's
getting
late
in
the
day,
and
so
that
program
is
in
such
high
demand
and
exactly
what
you're
describing
it
is
so
important
to
invest
in
our
current
homeowners
to
ensure
that
they
are
able
to
thrive
and
be
supported
as
our
city
evolves
and
changes.
U
There
is
a
new
program
coming
out
for
to
be
invested
in
the
preservation
of
naturally
occurring,
affordable,
housing
and
deed,
restricted
housing
to
ensure
that
those
units
can
continue
to
stay,
affordable
and
and
that
they
don't
drop
off
into
the
private
market,
and
we
have
to
continue
to
invest
in
new
housing
at
these
pretty
with
a
huge
price
tag.
So
we're
we're
trying
to
address
preservation
of
housing
through
our
consumer
programs
and
also
through
the
development
through
our
gp
and
future
programs
through
the
arp
funds.
G
J
U
U
The
a
lot
of
the
developments
that
were
created
15
20
years
ago
are
really
coming
up
on
their
shelf
life
and
needing
reinvestment,
so
they
are
coming
to
us
and
looking
to
recapitalize
and
reinvest
in
their
developments
through
four
and
nine
percent
deals,
and
so
our
rgp
program
is
one
tool
that
we
use
to
help
supplement
the
reinvestment
in
these
programs.
So
our
rgp
can
definitely
be
used
for
preservation
of
current,
affordable
housing,
and
then
we
also
have
new
programs
coming
out
through
arp
are
right.
J
I'm
gonna
say
something
that
I've
been
saying
now
for
nearly
eight
years,
so
it's
not
really
directed
at
this,
but
I
like
to
always
always
say
it
when
we
talk
about
renters
and
rental
units
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Is
that
while
it's
good
that
we
look
at
extending
the
deed
restrictions
or
or
bringing
you
know,
stabilizing
the
larger
multi-units
that
have
been
restricted
to
affordable
housing?
So
we
don't
lose.
J
In
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
there
are
neighborhoods
of
single-family
homes
that
have
65-70
percent
renter
populations
and
that
we
also
need
in
our
policies
and
in
our
in
our
programs,
to
acknowledge
that
that's
a
section
of
renters
that
we
also
want
to
protect.
We
want
to
protect
the
affordability
of
some
of
those
units
well
again
being
cognizant
that
they
are
100,
hundred-year-old
dwellings,
I
always
say,
there's
always
a
roof
for
a
sewer,
but
there's
also
lead
paint,
there's
also
code
violations.
J
So
it's
been
a
long
day,
though
so
I'm
going
to
give
council
members
one
more
chance
and
also
I'd,
be
I'd,
be
really
happy
to
continue
that
part
of
the
conversation,
because
I
do
think
this
is
another
place
where
there's
an
intersection
between
not
just
having
the
dollars
but
having
the
city
policies
that
are
conducive
and
complementary,
so
that
you'll
get
far
more
results
to
protect
for
more
renters
and
rental
units.
I
still
see
councilman
strasberger
and
councilman
burgess,
so
I'll
give
them
one
more
chance.
J
If
I
don't
hear
from
them,
then
I
will
call
this
meeting
to
recess
and
let
us
let
us
all
move
on,
but
it's
been
a
really
thorough.
Conversation
really
appreciate
all
of
the
work
and
we
will
call
this
meeting
to
recess.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
we
will
just
a
heads
up
to
the
cable
vision
department
up
there
we'll
be
we'll
be
signing
off.
Thank
you
all
for
your
help
today,
as
well.