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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
city
council's
continued
budget
hearings,
I'm
councilman
o'connor
I'll
be
chairing
this.
This
morning's
meeting.
We
are
here
with
the
public
safety
department
and
we
are
gonna,
go
through
three
separate
funds:
the
stop,
the
violence,
trust
fund
office
of
community
health
and
safety
in
the
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention.
We
will
begin
with
our
budget
director
mr
bill
urbanic
to
go
over
this
and
then
I'll
pass
it
off
to.
I
believe,
the
public
safety
director
and
his
guest
as
well.
B
B
Also
within
this
is
the
stop.
The
violence
trust
fund,
stop
the
violence,
trust
funds
created
to
support
services
and
programs
that
prevent
violence
and
criminal
activities,
and
also
to
support
community
health
and
safety
programs
in
2022.
An
amount
equivalent
to
six
percent
of
the
bureau's
bureau
of
police's
budget
was
transferred
into
the
fund
or
shall
be
transferred
in
the
fund.
B
That
matching
amount
is
required
to
increase
until
it
is
10
percent
in
2026.,
the
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention
is
housed
within
the
stop
the
violence
trust
fund,
as
are
the
staff
of
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
from
a
budgetary
aspect
this
year,
the
stop
the
violence,
trust
fund
per
section,
237.02
b
of
the
city
code.
Stop
the
violence.
Trust
fund
is
required
that
six
percent,
the
total
in
2022,
is
7
million
two
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
dollars.
Now
the
stop.
B
B
B
The
largest
expense
is
five
million
dollars
for
agh
diversion
program
as
previously
authorized
by
council
via
the
american
rescue
plan
resolution.
The
office
of
community
health
and
safety
has
12
employees
housed
within
the
stop
the
violence
trust
fund.
There
are
no
proposed
changes
from
2021
in
that
budget
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention.
The
highlights
there,
the
office
of
community
services,
violence
prevention
has
five
employees
within
the
stop
the
violence
trust
fund.
There
are
also
no
changes
proposed
from
the
2021.
A
C
And
I'm
wendell
hesrick,
director
of
public
safety
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
councilman,
and
we
appreciate
your
time
this
morning
and
as
I
as
we've
discussed
last
week
with
the
public
safety
overall
hearing
that
was
more
or
less
the
response
to
public
safety
issues.
This
morning,
we're
going
to
address
probably
a
more
important
issue,
which
is
the
prevention
and
the
more
that
we
do
with
prevention.
Hopefully
the
less
we
will
have
to
do
with
response.
C
I
think
that
I
believe
that
we
are
on
the
right
course
to
trying
to
address
many
of
the
important
issues
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
include
the
problem
with
individuals
that
don't
have
housing
the
drug
issues,
the
issues
downtown,
but,
more
importantly,
with
the
stop
the
violence
with
the
gang
issues
and
the
murders
and
attempted
homicides,
the
shootings
that
are
occurring
throughout
the
city.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
have
to
commend
laura
jabrowski
and
her
staff
with
what
they
have
done.
C
As
far
as
laying
the
foundation
for
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety,
and
with
my
deputy
director,
shatera
murphy
and
her
work
with
councilman
burgess
and
yourself
with
stop
the
violence
trust
fund.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
don't
know
what
you
would
prefer
that
we
go
over
first,
whether
it's
stop
the
violence
or
the
community,
health
and
safety.
If
you
just
want
to
go
down
the
line
and.
A
A
H
H
H
H
H
D
D
We
focus
on
not
just
that
point
of
crisis
response,
but
also
upstream
interventions
that
can
be
executed
to
prevent
those
crises
from
escalating,
and
then
I
think
the
area
that
maybe
our
first
responders
in
our
community
see
but
has
not
been
brought
to
public
attention
is
what
happens
after
a
crisis,
and
so
often
we
have
our
current
engagement
of
individuals
in
the
crisis
and
public
safety
continuum,
because
there
are
not
always
robust
supports
to
to
assist
individuals.
After
as
such,
we've
created
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
again
funded
by
the
stop.
D
The
violence
trust
fund
in
an
effort
to
better
meet
community
needs
and
also
reduce
the
impact
of
unmet
needs
on
our
first
responders.
I
think
it's
it's
clear
that
our
first
responders
are
not
have
not
been
adequately
equipped
with
resources
to
address
the
needs
they
see
in
the
community
very
often
nor
do,
and
they
would
articulate
this
as
well.
Nor
are
they
often
the
best
people
for
certain
situations,
so
this
year
it
has
been
a
staffing
year.
D
I
anticipate
that
there
will
be
questions
regarding
the
rapidity
or
the
speed
with
which
we've
staffed
up.
We
presently
have
four
times
four
full-time
staff,
one
half-time
staff,
member
and
one
intern
by
the
close
of
this
year,
we'll
have
added
an
additional
two
full-time
staff
members.
In
early
next
year
we
will
add
our
community
social
workers,
which
we
have
up
to
six
in
the
budget,
but
we
have
are
pending
acceptance
of
the
jobs,
and
so
we
will
allow
that
to
be
something
we
share
next
year.
D
The
programs
that
are
are
critically
important
are
our
high
utilizer
program.
Now
this
is
a
program
that
focuses
on
individuals
who
have
higher
rates
of
engagement
with
the
public
safety
continuum,
and
we
started
with
the
fire
department,
which
I
think
may
not
be
intuitive
to
most,
but
our
fire
department
is
very
often
responding
to
calls
of
lift
assists
other
non-emergency
situations
within
homes.
So
we
working
with
lieutenant
horowski
from
the
fire
bureau
and
dr
sheila
roth
identified
40
patients
since
july,
who
had
had
a
total
of
511
fire
engagements.
D
This
is
not
just
an
issue
of
cost,
but
it's
also
an
issue
of
preservation
of
dignity
and
healthy
environment
living
environment,
so
through
their
work
and
in
partnership
with
dana
brooks
who's,
an
intern
in
our
office
they've
been
able
to
stabilize
more
than
20
of
those
patients.
They
have
32
pending
patients,
and
this
is
with
again
one
half-time
staff
member
in
our
office
and
one
part-time
support
from
the
fire
bureau.
D
It
novel
pieces
of
that
were
that
we
have
actually
now
an
ongoing
partnership
with
adult
protective
services
where
they're
working
with
our
staff
to
triage
cases.
We
have
regular
case
conferencing
and
with
the
liaison
program
that
dr
roth
has
been
building,
we
will
have
representation
from
fire
from
ems
and
police
as
well,
where
we'll
be
able
to
do
cross
public
safety
or
integrated
public
safety
review
of
patients.
We
also
have
and
very
much
thanks
to
public
safety
and
deputy
director
murphy.
D
We
received
technical
assistance
grant
from
the
international
association
of
chiefs
of
police
and
the
bureau
of
justice
assistance
to
have
a
data
sharing
agreement
working
directly
with
our
police
and
dr
angle
from
the
university
of
cincinnati,
which
will
allow
us
to
iteratively
improve
our
crisis
response
system.
As
part
of
that
we'll
be
developing
a
co-responder
academy
for
civilian
responders,
and
I
think
this
gets
to
the
big
point
of
of
note
is
that
the
speed
with
which
we
do
this
has
to
be
balanced
by
safety
right
now.
D
We
do
not
have
civilian
direct
dispatch
responders
and
that's
not
to
say
that
can't
be
done,
but,
most
importantly,
we
want
to
preserve
the
safety
not
just
of
our
first
responders
and
and
our
co-responders,
but
also
of
our
community
members.
We
know
adding
individuals
to
that
in
that
scene
to
that
mix
can
result
in
escalation
of
safety,
so
we
will
be
working
directly
with
the
university
of
cincinnati
and
then
with
our
police
bureau,
fire
bureau
and
ems
bro
to
ensure
that
we're
co-training
our
staff
and
our
co-responders
civilian
co-responders.
D
Additionally,
we
will,
as
I
mentioned,
be
hiring
our
community
social
workers,
who
will
be
corresponding
and
serving
as
a
sort
of
triage
site,
triage
and
liaison
so
working
with
police
and
other
first
responders,
but
also
assisting
with
calling
in
other
resources.
Part
of
our
challenge
is
that
our
first
responders
are
required
to
know
the
universe
of
resources
and
services,
and-
and
I
think
that
is
a
herculean
task
for
anyone.
Finally
well
not.
Finally,
I
have
plenty
more.
I
could
share,
but
I'll
try
to
cut
this
a
bit
shorter.
D
We
did
launch
our
partnership
with
allegheny
health
network
this
year.
I
think
there's
some
note,
and
this
is
our
the
urban
health
and
street
medicine
program.
I
think
they
are
working
of
note
or
their
just
sheer
number
of
client
engagements
and
services
rendered
they're
operating
in
half
the
city
with,
as
you
know,
direct
as
mr
urbanic
shared
with
the
goal
of
scaling
through
the
arp
funding.
Since
march
of
this
year,
they've
worked
with
360
people
in
zone
194
in
zone
2
and
172
and
zone
5.
D
D
I
know
that,
there's
again
an
urgency
to
do
this,
and
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
be
judicious
about
is
is
we
are
doing
co-response
we're
just
not
putting
media
in
those
co-response
situations,
other
things
that
are
important
to
note.
We
have
funding
from
the
health
department
and
we're
launching
lead
law
enforcement,
assisted
diversion
also
through
that
funding.
We've
had
the
technical
or
the
support
to
launch
the
state's
first
pre-hospital
beeping
orphene
program
and
we're
working
with
johns
hopkins
to
evaluate
that.
D
We've
worked
with
the
administration
to
decriminalize
fentanyl
test
strips
and
we've
worked
with
the
bureau
of
police
to
expand
the
availability
of
naloxone
to
our
first
responders.
Finally,
we
are
developing
neighborhood
health
and
safety
academy
that
re-empowers
individuals
in
the
community
to
be
part
of
their
the
public
safety
continuum
focusing
on
existing
community
go-to
individuals,
and
we
have
launched
our
community
listening
campaign,
which
is
focused
on
making
sure
that
community
voice
is
part
of
every
step
of
our
work.
As
I
mentioned,
we
presently
have
four
full-time
staff
members.
D
We
project
that
we
will
spend
just
close
to
300
000
this
year
of
the
projected
spend
of
nine
hundred
three
thousand
dollars.
Our
goals
for
next
year
are
critically
the
expansion
of
the
allegheny
health
network
co-response
program,
the
launch
of
two
additional
community
health
hubs,
the
onboarding
of
our
community
social
workers,
moving
toward
that
co-response
and,
ultimately,
alternative
response
with
direct
dispatch
and
the
expansion
of
our
pre-hospital
buprenorphine
program.
H
D
Yeah,
so
thank
you
for
asking
the.
If
we're
looking
at
the
operating
budget,
the
five
million
listed
is
five
million.
Sixty
seven
thousand
that
five
million
dollars
is
direct,
is
arp
funding
that
will
go
in
contract
telling
any
health
network
the
sixty
seven
thousand
dollars
is
from
the
general
operating
fund.
That's
focused
on
training,
recertification
of
staff,
our
big
berg,
professional
services,
agreement,
harm
reduction,
consulting
public
health
programming,
operational
supplies,
office
supplies,
general
health
programming,
supplies,
uniforms,
harm
reduction,
supplies
and
aeds.
D
E
H
D
D
So,
in
order
to
expand
that,
I
think
we
had
projected
the
need
for
16
social
workers,
but
we
also
recognize
that's,
that's
quite
a
lot
and
so
we're
looking
at
other
funding
sources
and
also
ways
to
partner
with
allegheny
health
network.
But
what
we
you
know
we
want
to
be
clear:
we
don't
want
to
make
allegany
health
network
into
the
same
situation.
We
have
with
police,
where
they're
responsible
for
every
everything
outside
of
you
know
what
fire
and
ems
do.
H
And
then
this
we
have
this
big
bird
is
that
was
that
incorpora
was
that
incorporated
into
the?
I
forgot
that
that
was
even
there
is
that
incorporated
into
man.
It
exists
that
I
just
didn't
realize
that
was
overseen
by
the
oh
chs.
So
is
that
like?
How
do
you
coordinate
with
them,
or
is
that
just
a
thing
that
is
fully
running
by
itself.
D
That's
a
good
question,
so
we
have.
The
fifteen
thousand
dollars
is
part
of,
I
think,
like
web
hosting
and
professional
services
with
informing
design.
We
have
a
americorps
vista
member,
elena
chulik,
who
is
overseeing
big
burke,
so
she's
responsible
for
the
outreach
to
partners
to
make
sure
that
the
resources
are
up
to
date
and
envisioning
strategic
opportunities
for
expansion.
Things
we're
thinking
about
are
like
the
transportation
hub
expansion
and
ways
that
we
can
make
sure
that
people
who
have
those
unmet
needs
are
able
to.
H
D
D
18
times
in
a
month
and
encountering
conditions
that
are
are
probably
pretty
startling
for
most
to
consider
is
really
burning
out
our
staff,
not
just
our
firefighters
but
across
the
board.
So
I
think
this
is
more
about
like
quality
of
life
and
dignity.
We
have
people
who
are
really
kind
of
like
forgotten
by
society
and
ultimately,
I
think
our
first
responders
are
waiting
for
them
to
you
know
it's
it's
a
matter
of.
Can
you
catch
the
the
situation
before
it
escalates
to?
You
know
something
really
tragic.
H
Yeah,
so
something
you
didn't.
Maybe
I
didn't
hear
about
overdose,
because
both
of
those
liposuction
overdoses
every
time
they
they
respond.
The
fire
responds
to
that
they're.
Pulling
the
truck
out
is
that
a
director
is
that
a
public
safety
risk
in
terms
of
like
if
they
have
to
respond
to
a
fire,
then
like,
if
they're
tied
up
with
a
lift,
assist
or.
C
If
we
can
find
them
some
additional
care
or
find
them
better
accommodations,
living
accommodations
that
basically
reduces
the
response
of
fire
and
ems
personnel,
and
it's
the
same
with
drug
overdoses.
I
mean
the
idea
of
narcan,
you
know
it's
great
it,
but
it's
only
a
band-aid
on
the
system
and
if
we
can
find
them
the
further
care
to
get
them
off
the
drugs,
then
number
one
we've
saved
their
lives
and
number
two
they're
in
further
advanced
care
to
get
to
kick
the
addiction
of
being
on
drugs
and
in
a
result,
I
we.
C
H
C
In
here,
and
they
can
help
somebody,
more
importantly,
is
they
can
find
additional
further
care
through
the
two
hospital
systems
or
through
nursing
assistants,
that
if
the
individual
wants
to
stay
in
the
house,
they
can
have
care
workers
come
to
the
house,
not
from
the
city
or
in
some
cases
the
individual
really
should
not
be
living
alone.
Okay-
and
that's
where
the
social
workers
work
at
is
explaining
to
them
what
the
options
are
because
a
lot
of
times,
especially
the
elderly,
they
don't
know
what
their
options
are.
H
C
So
that's
that's
the
idea
that
there
may
not
be
there
may
not
be
a
monetary
value
put
on
to
it,
but
it
will
save
it
will
save
the
actual
first
responders.
You
know
their
time
and
their
effort
to
respond
to
other
emergencies
by
by
instituting
this
system
here,
and
it's
already
in
some
cases
been
very
successful.
H
C
Any
time
that
there's
an
individual
that's
unconscious,
not
breathing
or
what
we
consider
an
e-zero
incident.
Yes,
fire
will
respond
because
they
are
in
many
cases
closer,
but
that
doesn't
eliminate
ems
responding,
I
mean
even
if
the
fire
or
police
personnel,
because
they
have
narcan
also
if
they
respond,
it
is
still
a
requirement.
The
ems
responds
to
follow-up
and
in
most
cases
we
in
all
cases
we
try
to
convince
the
patient
to
go
and
seek
care
in
the
hospital.
C
Sometimes
they
refuse,
because
the
narcan
brings
them
back
to
life
more
or
less,
and
there
have
been
times
that
cpr
is
being
done
when
the
firefighters
or
police
officers
show
up
and
with
the
use
of
narcan.
It
brings
them
back
to
life,
but
that
doesn't
mean
an
hour
two
hours
or
eight
hours
later.
We
will
not
be
back
meaning
public
safety.
We
will
not
be
back
at
their
residence,
and
that
is
one
that
is
the
idea
of
the
new
drug
that
is
out.
C
E
F
We
to
avoid
you
know
repeating
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
previously.
We've
had
extensive
conversations
around
gvi
the
initiative.
What
the
outreach
workers
are
doing
I'll
provide
you
an
update
of
where
we
are
as
far
as
the
expansion
goes
so
right
now.
Well,
let
me
take
a
step
back
I'll
talk
about
what
we're
doing
as
trust
fund
is
concerned,
we'll
talk
about
the
numbers
and
then
I'll
talk
about
the
initiatives.
F
So,
as
you
see,
there
are
only
five
employees
from
the
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention
funded
out
of
the
south,
the
violence
trust
fund,
I
believe
that's
around
370-ish
thousand
dollars
per
year
coming
out
of
the
trust
fund
for
staff,
the
rest
of
the
money
from
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention
is
devoted
to
contracts
that
support
intervention
and
prevention
work.
So
right
now
we
currently
have
in
place
a
contract
with
operation,
better
block
that
supports
our
technology
needs
and
some
accountability
measures.
We
have
a
contract
with
freedom.
F
Indeed,
who
is
reverend
cornell
jones
and
he
oversees
the
whole
operation
as
our
street
outreach
director,
and
then
we
have
a
contract
with
a
center.
That
cares
that
supports
outreach
efforts
and
social
service
support
at
two
million
dollars
annually
and
then
what
we
don't
have
listed
in
2021,
but
you
will
see
it
in
2022's
budget.
Is
our
community
investment
grants
we
just
wrapped
up
the
rfp
process.
Poise
was
awarded
that
contract.
H
H
B
H
The
community,
in
a
similar
fashion,
I
just
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
it.
I
guess
my
major
concern
is
just
you
know,
there's
no,
I'm
I
mean
I
hope,
if
that's
going
to
come
to
council,
that
it
comes
to
council
with
a
very
thorough
plan
to
spend
what
we've
done
in
council
was
80
of
the
fund
right.
F
H
F
A
million
yes,
okay,
so
it'll
be
issued
in
two
rounds:
500
500
000
in
the
spring
500
000
in
the
fall
and
then
we're
working
with
poise
to
actually
set
a
dollar
amount
to
each
particular
grant
and
how
many
rounds
we'll
do
so.
That
process
is
in
its
infancy
stage,
because
poise
was
just
awarded
the
contract
sally
from
your
office
sat
on
those.
H
There
an
official
committee
because
I'm
just
like
even
with
the
even
what
the
what's
the
reason,
what
we
did.
Oh
the
parks
trust
fund,
wouldn't
have
an
advisory
committee.
Is
there
an
official
stop
the
violence,
trust
fund
committee?
That's
like
officially
known
to
the
public
who's
like
sitting
in
on
those
meetings.
F
So
we
had
a
committee
some
time
ago
and
it
was
comprised
of
individuals
who
worked
in
various
entities
of
government
community
leaders,
community
stakeholders.
We
are
now
revamping
that
committee
now
that
we
know
that
we
really
want
to
focus
on
a
specific
type
of
preventative
and
intervention
efforts
around
this
money.
So
that
is
also
something
else
that
we're
working
on
right
now
is
actually
being
intentional
about.
You
know
who
is
on
that
committee
and
what
that
committee
will
actually
do
what
reports
that
committee
will
be
providing
and
how
we'll
go
about
measuring
community
impact.
H
F
So,
regarding
the
community
investment
grants,
so
the
process
will
come
before
council.
We
once
we
finalize
everything
with
poise
the
structure,
how
the
monies
will
be
issued
and
also
the
evaluation
process
that
they're
going
to
create.
We
will
have
meetings
with
council,
because
this
is
something
that
we
want,
you
all
to
help
push
to
your
constituents
and
so
we'll
need
your
support
and
your
help
with
that.
You
all
know:
what's
going
on
in
your
districts,
you
know
which
organizations
are
actually
out
there.
F
H
H
F
H
F
And
then,
as
far
as
the
gbi
expansion
goes
right
now
we
spent
the
last
month
and
a
half
retraining
current
staff
identifying
what
communities
of
focus
within
each
police
zone
we're
going
to
be
operating
in.
So
we
will
be
meeting
with
council
to
talk
about
which
areas
in
your
district
will
have
dedicated
outreach
workers
and
interrupters
just
so
that
you
know
who
those
individuals
are,
and
you
have
access
to
them
as
well,
because
sometimes
you
hear
about
things
before
we
hear
about
them
before
you
know
even
the
police
bureau
hears
about
them.
F
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
tightening
and
we're
strengthening
this
partnership
so
that
we're
addressing
issues
on
their
onset
and
not
letting
things
go.
You
know
for
a
few
days
before,
actually
I'm
jumping
in
and
taking
action.
So
we
were.
We
are
in
the
process
of
retraining
that
has
been
going
very
well
and
then
also
finalizing
the
recruitment
process.
How
we're
going
to
go
about
getting
individuals
in
the
areas
in
which
we
currently
don't
have
them.
Now,
since
we
are
in
the
midst
of
a
citywide
expansion,.
F
So
those
will
be
dumped
into
two
buckets
preventative
work
and
intervention
work
and
with
conversations
with
councilman
burgess,
he
would
prefer
to
sit
down
with
counsel
and
identify.
What
ul's
needs
are
to
make
sure
that
we
are
using
the
trust
fund
to
address
things
and
concerns
in
your
districts
as
well.
H
Yeah
my
thoughts
are
that
we
should
sit
down
with
professionals.
I
would
like
someone
to
have
a
post
agenda
on
exactly.
You
know
how
people
stop
the
violence
and
what
all
was
incorporated
and
stop
the
violence.
You
know
I
mean
I
just
think
it's.
We
can't
continue
going
on
a
path
of
this
isn't
direct
towards
you.
I
mean
it's
just
in
general.
You
know.
I
constantly
hear
that
this.
I
know
this
was
started
with
councilman
burgess
some
time
ago.
H
H
H
E
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
there
in
person
today,
it's
a
pleasure
to
join
you
virtually.
I
don't
think
I
have
too
many
more
questions.
Hearing
the
hearing
the
overview
and
hearing
some
of
councilman
wilson's
questions
really
answered
a
lot
from
me.
I
guess
on
office
of
community
health
and
safety.
I
So
much
of
next
year's
budget
will
be
will
come
from
the
arp
funds
and
I
guess,
as
we
continue
to
the
desire
to,
I
would
hope,
grow
this.
The
the
number
of
staff
personnel
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
be
thinking
ahead
to
2023
2024
when
we
might
not
have
access
to
the
same
kind
of
net
federal
funding
as
we
do
today,
and
so
it
would
be
my
assumption
that
we'll
have
to
find
funds
within
the
capital
within
the
operating
budget
outside
of
federal
funding.
Is
that
what
your?
D
Thank
you,
council,
member
strasbourg.
Yes,
I
think
that's
correct.
I
think
that
we
would
anticipate
some
of
the
funding
would
be
part
of
the
city's
operating
budget,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
look
to
partners
who
are
host
to
the
program
and
and
others
considering
that
this
is
not
just
a
public
safety
program,
but
ultimately
something
that's
alleviating
the
impact
on
emergency
departments
and
in
patient
care.
D
D
So
I
think
you
know
right
now:
the
county
health
department
has
funding
from
the
cdc
principally
to
address
overdose
and
that's
our
partnership
with
them.
We
could
look
into
funding
from
the
department
of
human
services
at
the
county,
which
I
think
has
some
upwards
of
a
billion
dollars
in
funding
that
they
allocate.
So
there
may
be
opportunities
there,
especially
as
they've
convened
their
crisis
responder
stakeholder
group
and
are
considering
how
to
expand
these
programs.
I
That's
great
to
hear
I
mean,
given
that
it
is
yes,
it's
there's
a
public
safety
component
and
there's
a
huge
public
health
component
so
to
be
able
to
partner
with
and
there's
I
mean
it's
human
services
too.
So
I
think
this
could
be
an
excellent
kind
of
continuation
of
our
partnership
with
the
county
on
a
number
of
items
we
have.
You
know
how.
Many
years
ago
we
consolidated
our
911
call
center
to
be
a
city
county
function.
C
Councilwoman
I
I
will
say
that
you
know
I've
almost
completed
six
years
here
and
over
the
last
18
months.
I've
never
seen
a
better
close,
closer
working
relationship
with
the
county.
I
mean
I
came
here
and
it
was
basically
very
separate.
I
mean
we
would
talk
occasionally
at
meetings,
but
now
there's
ongoing
meetings
going
on
between
the
city,
the
county
and
even
a
lot
of
the
suburban
communities.
So
it's
still
a
work
in
progress,
but
I
think
we
are
making
strides
to
solidify
that
relationship.
I
I
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
that
continue
to
grow
this
year
and
continue
to
evolve
and
the
relationships
and
trust
being
built,
which
I
think
is
a
huge
part
of
it
and
I'll
just
say
it
again,
because
we
can
never
see
it
too
many
times
the
other
cities
that
have
this
kind
of
model.
It
took
at
least
four
or
five
years
to
really
feel
established
and
the
ones
that
have
been
doing
it
for
30
years.
I
Of
course,
they're
going
to
be
you
know,
have
learned
from
their
experiences
and
have
a
model
that
works
for
their
city,
so
we're
now
just
in
the
kind
of
second
year
of
doing
this,
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
see
what
how
we
can
grow
it
and
continue
to
build
that
trust
and
continue
to
build
the
relationships
and
to
you
know,
then
result
in
better
care
for
people
upstream
care.
As
as
we
discuss.
D
D
They
have
a
lot
more
tools
to
address
it
and
that
they're
far
more
rarely
involved
in
situations
where
it's
not
appropriate
for
them,
and
I
think
again
you
mentioned
programs
that
have
been
around
for
30
years.
I
mean
cahoots
is
one
that
has
a
lot
of
national
attention
and
I
think
every
program
that's
built
has
to
be
built
in
the
ecosystem
where
it
lives.
D
Then
we're
not
going
to
build
a
program,
that's
successful,
and
I
think
that
that's
something
we
saw
with
the
development
of
gvi
right,
which
is
there,
was
a
lot
of
work
to
understand
national
best
practices,
but
that,
ultimately,
the
program
had
to
be
and
continues
to
be,
a
program
that
reflects
community
values
and
community
needs.
And
so
I
think,
trying
to
balance
that
speed
with
something
that's
going
to
ultimately
be
successful.
C
The
first
responders
are
welcoming
this
across
the
board.
I,
as
I've
stated
in
previous
meetings,
I
mean
our
police
officers,
I
mean
they're,
not
only
police
law
enforcement
officers,
but
they're.
You
know
they're
in
the
role
of
firefighters,
ems,
plumbers,
uber
drivers
and
you
know
to
have
this
this
additional
resource
and
these
subject
matter.
C
Experts
that
deal
with
mental
health
crisis
every
day
and
home-
and
you
know,
problems
with
drug
addictions
and
I,
the
law,
enforcement
and
first
responders,
are
like
the
initial
emergency
room
doctors,
but
now
we're
looking
to
increase
it
to
the
specialists.
You
know
the
cardiologists,
you
know
the
the
the
doctors
that
have
or
the
individuals
that
have
the
advanced
care
to
address
the
problems,
not
only
at
the
time.
You
know
during
a
an
emergency
situation,
but
long
term
that
the
police
officers,
the
medics
and
firefighters,
just
don't
have
the
time
to
address.
I
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes,
I've
been
listening
in,
I
apologize,
my
computer's
been
fussy,
so
I
apologize.
Am
I
clear?
Can
you
hear
me
clearly?
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I
was
just
sitting
back
and
taking
some
notes,
and
I
I
I
did
miss
also
the
overview
from
our
budget
office,
but
I
have
it
in
email
in
front
of
me,
and
so
I
wanted
to
go
over
some
of
the
dollars
just
to
recap,
so
I'm
sure
that
I'm
got
all
the
information
just
as
a
reminder
of
the
stop.
J
The
violence
funds
that
we
created,
which
has
the
match
at
six
percent
this
year,
is
a
a
matching
award.
If
you
will
to
whatever
our
police
budget
is
so
it
would.
There
were
many
reports
a
year
ago
that
it
was
taking
money
from
the
police
budget
and
it
is
not
so
our
police
budget
this
year
has
grown
to
over
a
hundred
million,
and
while
the
percentage
has
grown
from
five
percent
to
six
percent
match
it
stop
the
violence
fund.
J
E
J
Thank
you
and
I
see
that
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
budget
is
at
5
million.
So
is
that
entirely
allocated
from
the
stop
the
violence
funds?
I'm
not.
Looking
at
my,
I
don't
want
my
big
hard
copy
of
my
budget
that
I
should
be
looking
at
to
make
sure
I'm
getting
the
source
of
funds
right.
J
B
J
Right
and
then
the
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
is
kind
of
like
a
pass
through
because
it's
giving,
how
does
it
work
with
the
partnership
for
ahm
we're
allocating
five
million
dollars
from
the
stop
the
violence
funds
which
again
comes
straight
out
of
the
operating
budget
and
is
additive
on
top
of
what
the
police
budget
is
where
that
is
going
to
the
ahm
partnership?
So
how
does
that
work,
and
again:
apologies
if
you've
actually
gone
through
this
before?
Is
it
like
we've
written
a
check
to
ahn?
D
Gross
this
is
a
good
question.
I
think
this
is
a
bit
of
a
confusion,
because
that
five
million
number
is
so
big.
It
looks
like
it's
our
operating
budget.
So
there's.
If
you
look
from
stop
the
violence,
our
staff
is
I'm
trying
to
pull
this
up
quickly.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
sum
total
for
our
work.
J
D
So
I
think
our
staff
budget
for
our
office,
which
is
all
funded
from
the
stop
the
violence
trust
fund,
is
roughly
1.3
mil
1.27
million
and
then
what
you're?
Seeing
with
that
5
million
67
000
thousand,
is
from
the
general
fund
for
our
opera
operations
budget.
So
things
like
aeds
uniforms,
training,
the
five
million
is
the
the
arp
of
funding,
as
mr
urbanic
shared.
D
The
way
that
we
have
funded
the
program
to
date
is
through
the
esg
emergency
solutions,
grant
hud
cv,
coveted
funding.
So
I
think
the
initial
allocation
was
1.2
million
dollars,
and
that
was
on
a
reimbursement
basis,
which
is
typical
the
way
that
works.
We
have
not
finalized
the
contract
with
allegheny
health
network
for
the
five
million
dollars.
Again,
that's
the
arp
funding
that
you're
seeing
is
the
5
million
plus
the
67
000
for
our
operations.
D
We
anticipate
that
the
major
costs
in
their
first
year,
in
addition
to
staff,
which
I
think
will
be
the
vast
majority
of
that
budget,
will
also
include
the
establishment
of
additional
hubs
right
now.
Those
community
outreach
hubs
are
in
zones,
one
two
and
five,
so
one
on
east
ohio
street,
the
north
side,
one
on
smithfield,
downtown
and
one
on
broad
street
in
east
liberty.
D
We
know
that
there's
a
tremendous
need
in
the
other
council
districts
and
police
zones,
so
we
want
to
focus
on
that
vehicle
acquisition.
Because,
right
now
we
have
staff
using
their
personal
vehicles
to
respond
to
911
calls
and
obviously
that's
not
a
best
practice
and
a
build
out
of
additional
teams.
So
not
just
the
outreach
teams
and
the
response
teams,
but
we're
seeing
a
tremendous
number
of
gaps
across
the
board,
which
you
know,
I
think,
is
more
to
come
on
what
those
teams
will
look
like.
D
But
we
do
know
that
it's
insufficient
to
just
have
street
outreach
and
co-response
and
that
we
have
pretty
significant
needs
on
the
public
health
side
as
well.
So
that
is
something
that
we
can
provide.
You
know.
Certainly,
council
will
be
part
of
that
process
and
we
will
provide
that
information
to
you
as
it
becomes
available.
But
again,
our
budget
is
around
1.27
million
dollars
for
our
staff,
67
thousand
dollars
from
the
which
comes
from
stop
the
violence.
67
000
that
comes
from
the
general
fund
for
our
operations
and
five
million.
J
Thank
you.
I
was
scribbling
away
while
you
were
talking,
and
I
did
think
that
that
this
is
incredibly
helpful.
It's
it's.
I
think
it's.
The
most
important
part
of
a
budget
hearing
is
for
the
public
to
understand
what
money
is
going
to
what
and
it's
really
not
very
clear
from
these
pages
in
the
operating
budget.
J
What
I
hear
from
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
and
interrogatory
with
other
members
questions
is
that
there
is
a
mission
to
decrease
the
first
responder
or
emergency
response,
whether
that's
fire,
I've
heard
and
ems
and
police
to
911
calls.
We
talked
about
mental
health
interventions.
We've
talked
about
even
lift
assist
here,
which
is
not
something
I
remember
from
our
other
conversations
at
the
table
around
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety.
J
But
the
goal
is
to
actually
hope
that
there
is
a
decrease
in
the
9-1-1
calls
right,
and
so
someone
who's
repeatedly
calling
for
lift
assist
to
9-1-1
gets
into
a
better
living
situation
or
a
situation
where
there's
someone
a
caregiver
instead
of
an
emergency
responder
and
similarly
that
maybe
we
can
get
to
a
place
where
we
have
a
decrease
in
mental
health
issues
for
individual
individuals
in
mental
health.
Distress
that
result
in
nine-on-one
calls
and
then
an
overdose.
J
Similarly
getting
people
to
connected
again
to
caregiving
to
treatment
so
that
they
don't
have
that
emergency.
That
is
9-1-1
so,
and
that
is
why
I'm
hearing
there's
an
expansion
of
not
just
street
outreach,
not
just
co-response,
but
also
kind
of
another
kind
of
additional
staffing
that
would
help
result
in
basically
less
distress
amongst
our
residents.
C
Yeah,
I
exactly.
However,
the
important
thing
here
is
that
you
know
that
would
be
one
advantage
to
you
know
decreasing
the
911
calls,
but
it's
going
to
take
time.
It's
not
going
to
happen
overnight,
but
the
most
important
thing
here
is
for
the
individuals
that
need
the
help.
You
know
whether
it's
mental
health
issues
or
drug
addictions
or
no
place
to
stay
or
in
their
house
alone,
and
they
have
nobody
to
care
for
them.
I
mean
yeah,
we
have
for
years.
C
C
But
you
know
five
hours
later,
they're
still
in
need
again,
and
the
important
thing
is
the
residents
and
the
visitors
of
the
city,
and
you
know
those
individuals
downtown
that
are
on
a
street
corner
that
have
no
place
to
go
but
want
somewhere
to
go
or
addicted
to
drugs,
and
you
know,
as
they're
addicted
to
drugs,
they're
trying
to
find
money
to
support
their
habit,
and
then
they
wind
up
in
some
cases
breaking
in
or
doing
thefts
or
robberies
etc.
And
that's
it's
a
snowball
effect
that
keeps
going
around
and
around
in
circles.
C
And
yes,
if
we
can
reduce
the
call
volume
for
the
city
that
would
be.
That
would
be
one
distinct
advantage,
but
once
again
that
may
not
occur
for
months
or
years
down
the
road.
The
important
thing
is:
if
we
we
save
one
life
or
we
help
one
person,
it's
well
worth
it
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do-
and
you
know
we're
not
doing
it
alone.
C
Here,
we've,
you
know
laura
myself,
chatera
we've
all
reached
out
to
other
communities,
other
cities,
major
cities
that
are
going
through
the
same,
the
same
thing
that
we're
going
through
and
it's
part
of
revisioning
law
enforcement
response.
And
there
are
many
times
that
individuals
that
call
police
officers
and
the
police
officers.
They
received
several
weeks
of
training
on
how
to
handle
these
incidents,
but
they
certainly
don't
receive
the
years
of
training
that
social
workers
or
individuals
that
work
for
the
group.
Violence
intervention
have
received,
and
that's
that's
what
we're.
J
Trying
not
allocating
their
time
to
this
social
work
right
so
that
we're
making
a
budgetary
choice
here
to
allocate
basically
social
workers
to
social
work
instead
of
officers
to
or
fire
fighters
or
ems
to
social
work.
There's
really
a
big
gap,
and
I
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that.
I
think
it's
valid
for
the
public
to
say,
isn't
the
county
supposed
to
do
social
work?
J
And
I
and
I
you
know,
I
acknowledge
that
I
heard
you
say
that
there
is
greater
coordination,
but
basically
right
I
mean
there
was
just
still
a
gap.
Yes,
there
is,
you
know,
funding
and
resources
and
social
workers
at
the
county
level,
and
yet,
even
given
that
we
just
had
enough,
there
was
so
much
gaps
that
people
are
falling
into,
that
we
were
using.
J
But
then
I
want
to
acknowledge
that.
So
that's
that
kind
of
that's
the
bucket
for
community
health
and
safety,
because
these
acronyms
are
confusing
and
then
the
other
at
the
table.
Today
also,
we
have
community
safety
and
violence
prevention
and
I
think
it's
a
valid
question
for
people
to
be
confused
about.
J
Basically
that
they're
different
missions-
and
they
are
it,
looks
to
me
you
know
what
I
hear
today
is
that
there
are
they're
serving
different
parts
of
our
constituency,
and
I
just
also
wanted
to
kind
of
frame
that
as
an
open-ended
question,
really
how
much.
How
much
is
your
work
overlapping?
If,
at
all,
there
is
something.
F
F
F
There
are
a
lot
of
social
service
needs
and
our
outreach
workers
aren't
equipped
to
provide
those
social
service
needs.
So
it's
great
to
have
the
partnership
with
ochs
to
make
sure
that
those
services
are
provided,
and
there
is
a
large
population
of
homelessness
that
we
deal
with,
especially
in
the
black
communities
that
look.
It
looks
very
different,
and
so
again
we
have
office
of
community
health
and
safety
who
can
help
navigate
and
guide
us
as
we
try
to
enter
some
of
those
spaces
and
help
support
our
outreach
workers
in
that.
J
So
the
trauma
was,
it
was
not.
One
of
the
kind
of
three
areas
was
someone
else.
Speaking
at
the
table,
I
couldn't
tell
I
had
kind
of
mental
health
issues,
lift
assist
and
overdose
that
I
heard
today,
but
then
there's
also
the
kind
of
like
trauma
or
household
violence,
that
health
and
safety
is
also
overlapping,
with
violence,
prevention.
J
Because
decreasing
contact
with
first
responders,
because
a
social
worker
is
more
appropriate,
isn't
necessarily
the
same
response,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
listening
and
hearing
that
and
I'm
I
could.
You
speak,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
to
some
of
the
examples
where
they
are
both
either
both
you're
both
housed
under
the
stop
the
violence
funds.
F
And
we
are
in
a
similar
fashion
of
ochs.
I
want
to
ensure
that
we
are
decreasing
the
interactions
that
our
residents
have
with
law
enforcement.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
decreasing
the
likelihood
of
them
entering
a
system
that
we
all
know
that
you
know
once
especially
black
people
enter.
You
know
this
criminal
justice
system.
It
is
extremely
difficult
to
get
out.
F
It
is
very
difficult
to
navigate
those
spaces
and
it
really
impactful
in
a
very
negative
way,
on
the
quality
of
life
of
the
individual,
the
household
and
the
community
at
large,
and
so
during
the
intervention
work
that
our
outreach
workers
do
they're,
making
sure
that
they
are
preventing
retaliations
so
that
our
law
enforce
our
officers
do
not
have
to
infiltrate
that
community.
You
know
looking
for
individuals
who
may
potentially
retaliate
they
are
taking.
F
F
You
know
mental
health,
behavioral
health
services,
various
other
social
services
and
so
some
of
the
work
that
alexandra
before
you
know
joining
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
working
very
closely
with
our
outreach
workers
making
sure
that
they
have
the
information
to
provide
that
support,
and
so
with
alexandra
being
in
that
office
and
ochs
being
able
to
expand
in
the
way
that
they
are.
You
know
the
work
does
overlap,
but
it
overlaps
in
a
very
necessary
way.
J
J
F
Work
closely
with
dan,
he
is
fantastic
again,
we
talk
about
like
homelessness,
and
what
does
that
look
like?
You
know,
that's
on
our
area
of
expertise,
but
it's
it's
a
problem
that
our
outreach
workers
come
across
time
and
time
again.
So
dan,
who
you
know
through
the
program,
is
affiliated
with
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety,
he's
been
a
gem
and
a
fantastic
resource
for
our
outreach
workers
in
that
space.
D
Councilmember
gross-
I
could
just
add
to
I
mean
I
think,
deputy
director
murphy
said
it
perfectly.
I
think
that
the
the
critical
thing
to
think
about
is
that
we're
moving
toward
more
relationship
based
responses,
people,
you
know
one
of
the
challenges
and
I'm
sure
you've
heard
this
in
the
community
is
that
you
know
someone
shows
up
in
a
uniform
and
you
don't
know
them.
D
Even
though
reverend
jones
is
not
the
subject
matter
expert
on
that
front,
and
so
this
is
where
there's
a
I
don't
want
to
say
informal,
but
more
of
a
partnership
that
if,
if
reverend
jones
is
trying
to
work
through
an
issue
related
to
homelessness-
and
he
is
not
an
expert
on
navigating
county
services-
that's
okay-
he's
got
a
backup.
He's
got
someone
in
the
booth.
D
Saying
don't
worry,
I
got
you
I'll
I'll
I'll
make
some
calls
I'll,
get
you
some
options,
and
then
you
can
deliver
those
options
in
the
way,
that's
most
appropriate
to
that
person,
and
that's
really
intensive
right,
because
I
think,
with
all
of
the
unmet
needs
in
our
community,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
be
more
efficient.
But
but
realistically
we
have
to
be
more
relationship
based,
and
I
think
that
the
other
point
you
made
is
a
really
valid
one.
Why
is
the
city
doing
this
instead
of
the
county?
D
We
have
a
really
different
place
that
we
sit
where
we
have
oversight
through
the
public
safety
department
of
our
first
responders
and
that
direct
connection
and
knowledge
of
what
they
need.
We
also
have,
I
think,
far
more
close
relationships
with
our
constituency
and
I
think,
between
those
two
things
we're
far
better
positioned
to
create
responses,
whether
it's
through
the
office
of
community
services
and
violence,
prevention
and
the
stop
the
violence.
D
D
We
can
be
data
driven
and
not
data
focused,
and
I
think
that
that's
distinction
is
critical,
because
if
we
are
just
looking
at
data,
we're
missing
all
the
nuance
of
what's
going
on,
and
I
think
when
we
have,
if
we
have
to
do
this
to
scale
with
1.2
million
residents
in
the
county
and
130
different
municipalities,
we'll
lose
the
nuance.
And
frankly,
I
don't
think
that
the
programs
we're
trying
to
establish
will
work.
J
You
are
the
connectors
right.
That
is,
that
is
actually
what
you're
there
for,
and
so
we
will
want
to
see
measurable
results
too
and
so
just
to
wrap
up.
Even
though
you
just
said
you
want
not
being
data
driven
which,
on
the
front
end,
which
I
appreciate,
we
should
be
people
driven
on
the
front
end.
But
on
the
back
ends,
can
you
talk
about
some
of
your
metrics,
by
which
you
will
know
you're
succeeding.
D
I
think
w
director
murphy-
and
I
this
is
an
ongoing
point
of
focus
and
just
to
clarify
we
want
to
be
data
driven,
but
not
myopically
focused
on
data.
I
think
that's.
The
concern
is
when
you
lose
the
community
connections,
but
there's
sensitivity
in
this
work
that
I
think,
especially
for
deputy
director,
murphy
and
I'll,
defer
to
her
on
that
point.
D
That
makes
it
difficult
to
always
capture
all
of
the
information
that
makes
evaluation
straightforward
units
of
service
as
they're
measured
in
human
services,
don't
always
account
for
taking
someone
to
lunch
so
that
they
didn't
get
into
an
escalation
of
a
conflict.
So
we
are
principally
focused
right
now
on
numbers
of
people
and
connections
to
particular
services.
The
outcomes
of
those
services,
though,
are
both
harder
to
track
and
not
always
within
our
purview.
So
a
a
a
social
worker.
D
An
outreach
worker
could
spend
an
a
tremendous
amount
of
time,
making
sure
that
there
is
a
warm
hand
off
to
a
program
walk
that
person
through
that
program.
But
ultimately
we
don't
have
control
over
how
that
program
supports
people,
so
I
think
we're
we're
at
a
very
surface
level.
Now,
looking
at
the
number
of
people
engaged
the
number
of
total
engagements,
the
types
of
services
connected
the
places
where
people
are
receiving
those
services
and
whether
those
individuals
have
been
served
before
I
know
it's
been
brought
up
before.
But
part
of
the.
D
I
think
important
thing
to
note
about
data-
is
it's
only
as
good
as
it's
it's?
It
is
the
fidelity
of
its
collection
and
there
were
upwards
of
50
people
who
were
living
in
homewood
who
were
experiencing
a
chatera
said
homelessness
that
didn't
look
the
way
that
people
expected
and
they
were
for
years,
left
off
of
county
counts
of
individuals
who
are
unsheltered
and
that
dictated
where
people
were
focusing
resources.
D
So
we
we
are
trying
to
do
our
collection
and
our
evaluation
on
the
that
is
balanced
against
the
impact
on
the
direct
service
providers.
We
don't
want
our
direct
service
providers
to
spend
four
hours
working
with
the
participant
and
four
hours
documenting
in
three
different
systems,
so
we're
striking
that
balance
is
difficult.
We've
seen
it
go
both
ways
in
our
community
based
organizations,
but
I
think
you
know
we're
open
to
that.
D
Ongoing
collaboration,
for
example,
with
our
overdose
efforts,
josh
schneider
who's,
an
overdose
prevention
coordinator
and
paramedic
who
works
in
our
office,
developed
a
dashboard
to
assess
what
was
occurring
in
the
event
of
an
overdose
when
our
first
responders
were
on
scene
and
what
he
found
was
approximately
40
percent
up
to
40
percent.
One
a
month
of
individuals
who
had
experienced
overdoses
and
had
an
ems
response
had
declined
transport
to
the
emergency
department.
As
director
historic
said.
That's
you
know.
That
means
that
people
lose
that
opportunity
to
be
connected
with
resources.
D
So
what
we
did
is
work
directly
with
director
historic
in
ems,
leadership
and
medical
direction
and
upmc
to
develop
the
third
in
the
country
pre-hospital
buprenorphine
program,
so
we're
trying
to
use
data
to
drive.
As
you
said,
how
we're
responding
to
these
situations-
and
then
I
think
the
evaluative
piece
is-
is
more
more
challenging,
but
a
work
in
progress,
and
I
I
know
deputy
director
may
have
more
to
share
on
that
front.
D
C
And
on
the
gvi
side-
and
we've
we've
discussed
this
problem
for
several
years-
that
really
numbers
are
difficult
and
people
don't
admit,
because
the
gvi
didn't
go
out
and
kill
somebody,
and
I
mean
really
the
only
success
stories
that
we
can
go
back
on
is
if,
in
fact,
there
are
the
rare
cases
that
people
say
how
gvi
assisted
them.
But
I
go
back
to
the
july
4th
celebration
of
this
year,
where
we
had.
C
C
There
was
no
violence
whatsoever,
so
I
mean,
even
though
there's
not
articulated
new
numbers
to
show
that
that,
in
my
opinion,
is
a
success,
a
success
story
and
you
know
we
are
going
to
have
isolated
incidents
of
violence
that
that
you
know
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
prevent,
but
hopefully,
within
time
the
homicide
rate
will
go
down.
The
number
of
active
number
of
shootings
will
go
down,
and
hopefully,
that
kids
that
would
have
got
into
violence
have
basically
decided
that
violence
is
not
the
direction
they
wanted
to
go
through.
C
F
The
way
that
they
need
to
be
serviced
to
actually
provide
that
individual
individual
attention,
but,
most
importantly,
help
them
walk
through
systems
that
they
typically
would
not
get
the
assistance
to
walk
through,
or
you
know,
to
hand
hold
them
through
that,
because
the
processes
are
very
intimidating,
there's
a
lot
of
red
tape.
You
know
we're
dealing
with
individuals
who
just
got
out
of
jail,
might
not
have
a
cell
phone.
So
then,
how
do
they
set
up
appointments
to
schedule
housing?
You
know
how
do
they
they
don't
have
access
to
internet?
Is
a
library
open?
F
How
are
they
going
to
get
there?
These
are
all
the
problems
that
you
know
our
outreach
workers
are
dealing
with
and
to
really
put
a
spotlight
on
a
success
story
from
a
partnership
of
the
gvi
outreach
and
ochs.
So
because
we
are
so
partnership
and
relationship
driven,
we
received
a
call.
Our
outreach
workers
received
a
call
that
an
individual
was
set
to
be
released
from
president
soon,
and
there
were
some
some
concerns
with
that
individual
as
to
why
they
went
to
prison.
F
When
you
do
not
feel
safe,
when
you
do
not
feel
secure,
you're
prone
to
make
bad
decisions,
and
so
we
really
help
that
individual
from
making
a
bad
decision.
He
did
not
have
to
worry
about
where
he
was
going
to
rest
his
head
or
doing
something
bad
to
get
means
to
rest
his
head.
He
was
able
to
work
with
us
these
city
services
to
get
the
support
that
he
needs.
So
I
do
want
to
emphasize
that
we
have
a
very
unique
opportunity.
It
is
going
to
take
some
time
for
us
to
grow
from.
F
You
know
the
gbi
and
the
outreach
perspective
as
well
as
ochs,
but
you
know
please
bear
with
us
through
this
process.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
the
residents
specifically
what
they
need.
As
far
as
gvi
goes,
the
overarching
objective
is
to
reduce
homicides
to
reduce
shootings
within
our
target
population,
which
is
young
adults.
You
know
that
that
age
of
18
to
30
year
olds
and
it's
very
crucial
because
they
are
their
parents.
You
know
that's
a
teen
who's
on
the
verge
of
going
left
or
going
right.
F
How
do
we,
you
know,
provide
intervention
or
preventative
services
to
make
sure
that
that
individual
goes
down
the
right
path?
You
know
what
are
we?
What
support?
Are
we
wrapping
around
that
family,
so
we're
measuring
interactions
and
engagements,
we're
measuring
the
resources
that
we
provide,
but,
most
importantly,
did
they
actually
utilize
those
resources
and
taking
a
step
further
and
if
they
did
not?
Why?
Because
there
are
lots
of
things
out
here
for
folks
as
far
as
resources
in
social
services,
but
they're
not
all
effective,
and
we
need
to
figure
out
why?
F
And
so,
if
we
can
partner
with
community
organizations
with
the
county
with
social
service
providers,
to
help
them
understand,
maybe
why
or
why
not.
These
services
are
not
working
for
the
individuals
who
are
accessing
them.
I
think
that's
golden
within
itself
and
also
are
we
even
providing
the
right
types
of
resources,
so
there
are
numerous
things
that
we're
going
to
measure
in
the
future.
We
really
hope
to
have
a
dedicated
analyst
to
this
space
because
we
want
to
know
what
does
impact
in
the
school
look
like
right
now.
F
We
are
very
active,
we're
active
in
a
lot
of
schools,
but
I'm
gonna
use
perry
as
an
example.
There
was
a
lot
of
violence
and
fighting
you
know
into
the
schools.
It
was
just
not
a
safe
space,
our
outreach
workers
with
community
leaders
and
school
administrator-
and
you
know
the
people-
the
school
police
were
able
to
come
together,
our
sierras
and
our
nros
to
actually
create
a
plan
to
figure
out.
F
How
are
we
going
to
make
this
school
safer,
but,
more
importantly,
that
that
group
was
able
to
boost
morale
into
the
school
to
make
the
kids
actually
want
to
come
to
school?
And
parents
were
not
aware
of
what
was
going
on
with
their
children.
You
know
in
school,
so
if
they
need
to,
you
know
change
what
after-school
care
looks
like
after
school
follow-up
to
make
sure
that
these
students
aren't
engaging
in.
F
You
know:
disruptive
behaviors
after
school,
that's
what
we're
doing
and
so
again
having
an
analyst
who
is
dedicated
to
this
space
to
actually
show
us.
You
know
what
all
what
what
does
all
of
this
mean?
What
does
the
community
impact
really
look
like
and
are
we
measuring
the
things
that
we
need
to
measure
properly?
We
have
crime.
F
Analysts
are
great
they're
overworked
I'll
advocate
for
more
crime,
analysts
all
day,
just
a
little
plug
for
them,
but
we
need
someone
who
can
actually
come
in
and
analyze
crime
data
for
from
a
community
perspective
and
not
for
tools
or
resources
for
law
enforcement.
So
those
are
two
separate
conversations.
J
What
are
now
compounding
social
problems
on
a
daily
basis
that
affect
individuals,
because
there
are
so
many
weaknesses
in
their
social
support
network,
because
there
are
just
those
kind
of
compounding
problems
with
their
way.
That
institutions
are
negatively
impacting
these
communities
that
we're
trying
to
to
do
all
of
these
different
programs.
J
A
G
E
G
G
G
G
G
G
All
of
those
works.
I
was
before
that
participate
in
the
one
vision,
one
life
with
richard
garland
and
take
league
thompson
and
again,
if
you
ask
them,
they
will
say,
and
the
first
game
peace
summit,
I
was
a
part
of
I've
been
in
this
work.
Over
20
years,
I
have
talked
to
the
originators
of
the
boston
miracle.
G
Personally,
I've
been
to
boston,
I've
been
to
chicago
and
saw
their
anti-violence
reduction
matters.
I've
talked
in
indianapolis,
I've
talked
to
leaders,
I've
been
to
conferences,
I've
been
trained
by
the
the
experts
at
john
jay
college.
I
I
do
advise
you.
I
have
two
books
in
my
office.
I
will
share
them
with
you.
If
you
want
to
learn
the
work
of
this,
the
national
initiative
for
safe
communities
is,
and
the
trustandjusticeinitiative.org
are
two
websites.
If
you
want
to
read.
G
Also,
there
is
a
a
part
of
blue
ribbon
studies
from
the
national
institute
of
justice.
Aaron
dalton,
who
is
the
county's
director
of
human
services,
actually
worked
for
the
department
her
and
I
designed
because
I
was
doing
this
work
before
I
was
a
member
of
council
her
and
I
actually
designed
in
part
as
a
team,
the
re-intro
reintegration,
reintervention
rather
policy
for
the
county
and
applied
for
a
federal
grant.
I
have
been
doing
this
work.
G
G
A
G
So
the
police
budget
is
120
million.
The
fire
department
budget
is
90
million
dollars.
The
ems
department's
budget
is
26
million
dollars,
and
public
safety
by
itself
is
12
million
dollars.
That's
248
million
dollars
a
quarter
of
a
billion
dollars.
We
spend
every
year
on
public
safety.
When
I
started
this
work.
The
question
I
asked
and
I
forgot
about
shotspotter
right.
The
question
I
asked
is:
what's
the
value
of
a
black
life?
G
How
much
money
are
we
willing
to
invest
to
stop
black
people
from
being
shot?
So,
let's
be
clear
about
this
work,
even
though
there
are
other
issues
at
its
core.
This
work
is
about
preventing
black
people
being
shot
and
they
are
primarily
shot
by
other
black
people
in
black
communities.
So
at
the
core
we
have
to
start
there
that
if
we
want
to
make
our
city
safer,
we
have
to
stop
black
people
from
being
shot
by
black
people
in
black
communities.
G
That's
not
just
my
focus,
that's
what
all
of
the
research
says
and
I've
read
most
of
them.
I've
talked
to
the
university
of
pittsburgh
and
they're
evaluators,
there's.
Actually,
a
federal
crime
statistic
statistician
at
cmu:
I've
had
these
conversations
so
all
right
now.
For
years
I
have
argued
that
we
know
how
to
stop
it.
Let's
fund
the
program,
and
even
though
we
spend
200
248
million
dollars
on
public
safety,
I
had
to
fight
and
argue
and
scrap
to
get
the
city
to
spend
400
000
on
a
program
to
stop
black
people
from
killing
black
people.
G
G
So
we
are
now
at
the
pres
at
this
time,
though,
where
there's
been
a
whole
idea
of
okay,
let's
talk
about
reimagining
police,
and
so
we've
had
a
chance
to
take
some
money
very
little,
but
for
the
first
time
that
I've
been
arguing
about
doing
this
work,
we
finally
have
the
resources
to
do
some
of
it,
certainly
not
at
the
scope
of
the
problem,
not
as
much
as
other
cities.
Other
cities
were
putting
a
million
and
a
half
to
millions
dollars
into
these
programs
20
years
ago.
We
would
not,
we
put
300
000
all
right.
G
G
There
are,
there
are,
so
you
have
to
start
off
with
the
group
violence
initiative,
formerly
the
pittsburgh
initiative
to
reduce
crime,
that's
the
core
program
and
then
we'll
build
out.
So
so
we
can
understand
the
model,
so
that
program
has
three
parts
to
it.
There
are
three
parts
of
that
program:
there
is
the
public
safety
or
police
component,
but
the
police
say
this
has
to
stop
and
we
will
not
tolerate
violence
and
we
will
do
pool
levers
or
use
every
available
resources
to
get
shooters
off
the
street.
G
The
second
component
is,
in
the
part,
until
recently
we
never
had
was
as
comprehensive
community
services
to
these
at-risk
families,
and
these
at-risk
people
saying
that
we
will
provide
you
with
job
training
and
social
service
and
all
the
other
things
that
are
causing
you
to
be
high
at
risk
and
likely
to
do
shootings
and
then
the
third
part
becomes.
These
trusted
community
voices
right.
These
legitimate
community
voices,
mothers
who
have
lost
violence-
oh
geez,
former
gang
members
who
all
come
and
say
this
has
to
stop.
G
That's
the
actual
group
violence
model
right
all
right,
so
that
model,
which
should
have
always
been
funded
at
about
1.5
2
million
dollars
only
now
has
been
funded
at
an
appropriate
matter.
That
funding,
though,
doesn't
really
do
the
social
work.
It
simply
does
the
outreach
and
helps
coordinate
the
activity.
It
only
does
the
outreach
and
it
coordinates
the
activity.
You
still
need
other
dollars
to
do
the
other
parts,
the
social
work
part.
G
Now,
then,
you
take
the
community
of
health
and
safety
now
you're
now
layering
on
the
other
components
necessary,
because
we
know
that
violence,
although
it
has
the
specific
activities
and
there's
specific
interventions,
that's
the
intervention.
You
have
to
move
to
a
prevention
model
which
prevents
these
people
from
shooting
in
the
first
place
right,
they
need
better
housing,
they
need
drug
rehabilitation,
they
need
jobs.
Now
we
also
know
where
intervention
stops
shootings
right
now,
and
you
have
to
put
a
couple
million
dollars
in
innovation
programs.
G
You
also
have
to
put
multiple
million
dollars
in
the
prevention
program,
except
prevention
will
not
stop
tomorrow's
shooting.
It
will
stop
because
the
shooters
we
know
are
between
18
and
25,
or
something
like
that
right
and
so
all
the
after
school
programs
are
important,
but
they're
not
going
to
stop
the
shooting
tomorrow.
All
of
the
homeless
intervention
is
important,
won't
stop
the
shooting
tomorrow,
but
they
will,
if
done
right
over
time,
stop
the
next
generation
of
shooters,
and
so
what
we're
doing
now?
Those
are
called
intervention
programs.
G
Now
all
of
these
things
take
place
among
specific
people
in
specific
places,
they're
not
everywhere
in
the
city
right
you're,
not
having
shooties
in
mount
washington,
you
don't
have
shootings
in
shadyside
you're,
not
having
shootings
in
squirrel
hill
you're,
not
having
that
level
in
intensive
violence.
We
know
they're
primarily
in
black
communities
among
black
people.
It
has
to
be
done
strategically
and
carefully
and
it
has
to
be
done
coordinated
for
years.
We
would
do
these
one
ops.
G
We
would
put
a
little
bit
of
money
because
the
reason
we
did
the
one-offs
was
not
because
we
never
knew
the
models.
We
always
knew
the
models
we
wouldn't
fund
it.
Let
me
say
this
again:
we
ne
this
not,
and
I
want
to
answer
bobby
bobby.
This
is
not
a
question
of
the
national
experts.
All
of
the
research
says
that
the
group
violence
model
is
the
most
effective
way.
We
are
part
of
the
national
initiative
with
the
national
leadership
for
safe
community.
There's
only
two
models
to
do
violence,
there's
only
two
there's.
G
A
A
G
G
You
need
that's
why
you
need,
I
think,
the
statistics
person
and
perhaps-
and
originally
we
hired
the
university
of
pittsburgh
to
do
our
assessment
right.
I
am
not
against
having
an
external
community
partner,
there's
really
two
there's
there's
the
university
which
originally
we
had
when
we
originally
did
the
program
that
we
designed
the
partner
was
the
university
school
of
social
work.
That
did
the
evaluation
piece
and
I'm
really
supportive
of
having
an
external
organization.
G
Do
the
evaluation
speech
we,
we
interviewed
the
university
of
pittsburgh
and
cmu
and
the
national
person
there
and
I
talked
about
them.
The
other
one
was
dr
wallace,
a
professor
of
social
work
out
of
the
school
of
university
of
pittsburgh,
and
so
I'm
in
favor
of
having
an
external.
I
think
the
program
should
have
an
external
evaluation,
I'm
with
you
on
that,
and
I
think
it
should
be.
I
have
no
problem
with
it
being
transparent,
I'm
simply
saying
that
the
model
does
exist
and
it's
based
on
blue
ribbon
models.
G
G
He
when
he
came
to
council
and
talked
about
it
in
person
you
just
you
weren't
here,
I'm
not
saying
it's
going
to
be
you
just
physically
weren't
here
and
that's
why
I'm
having
this
conversation
a
little
bit,
not
just
for
you
for
everybody,
because
it's
been
14
years.
I've
been
doing
this
work
and
these
experiences
all
right,
and
so
I
I
I
guess
what
I'm
I'm
suggesting
to
you
is
that
so
so
so
to
stop
the
so.
G
G
You
have
these
three
or
four
things
that
should
be
working
collaboratively
together.
You
have
to
stop
the
vowing
steering
committee,
which
is
an
internal
committee
that
should
oversee
all
of
this
work
right
made
up
of
the
mayor's
office,
public
safety
office,
the
county,
a
sort
of
overview
of
the
experts
of
government
who
are
doing
this
work
right
and
they
should
meet
monthly
and
oversea.
G
Then
that
group
has
host
community
roundtables,
which
quarterly
brings
all
the
community
people
in
to
make
sure
that
we're
coordinated
in
this
work
to
get
the
the
best
information
that
they're
giving
giving
them
our
information,
so
that
the
city
and
the
community
groups
are
working
collaboratively,
always
at
the
same
time.
So
you
have,
and
then
you
have
to
stop
the
violence
fund.
That
theoretically
will
provide
funding
to
do
a
little
of
these
three
different
things:
prevention,
intervention,
reimagining,
the
police
and
then
structurally.
G
In
my
opinion-
and
you
know-
that's
I've
argued
this
from
the
very
beginning.
You
have
these
twin
offices
that
I
think
should
both
be
public.
They
should
both
be
in
public
safety,
one
the
office
of
community
health
and
service
health
and
safety,
the
other
one.
The
office
of
community
volunteer
prevention.
G
We
never
had
the
resources,
we
had
the
250
bill
million
dollars
in
the
public
safety,
but
for
the
first
time
we
put
money
into
these
prevention
intervention
and
reimagining
police
programs
and
the
director,
the
assistant
director
and
laura,
has
been
excellent.
Now
you
know
I
I
will
continue.
You
know
my
advocacy
for
this
having
been
around
and
being
part
of
its
architect.
G
I
think
it
is
the
right
model,
I'm
willing
to
listen
to
others.
I
have
you
know
the
model
that
we've
used,
although
I
don't
talk
about
it,
but
I
have
been
part
of
this
conversation.
The
models
we
used
are
nationally
accredited
and
researched
and
have
outcomes
the
the
stop
shooting
and
the
bleeding
out
books
are
in
my
office,
any
member
of
council
who
wants
to
read
the
books.
You
know
humbly
my
name's
in
one
of
them
right
you're,
welcome
to
read
it.
G
When
I
talked
to
him,
there
are
other
organizations
and
other
models
that
I
know
of
that.
We've
not
implemented
there's
a
couple
in
pennsylvania
that
never
bring
out
models.
They're
programs,
there
are
other
programs
we
can
do.
The
model
is
sound.
We
can
talk
about
various
programming
that
we
may
want
to.
Do.
G
I'm
a
great
I'm,
a
great
hope
for
the
first
time
because
of
the
councilman
labelle,
and
I
and
the
willingness
council
for
the
first
time
we're
making
a
definitive
statement
that
black
lives
are
worth
something
we're
putting
four
or
five
million
dollars
into
saving
black
lives,
not
entirely
black
lives
otherwise
too.
But
the
core
of
this
is
to
save
black
lives.
We
spend
250
million
dollars
and
I've
been
on
council
for
14
years,
and
I've
been
at
every
mostly
every
public
hearing
about
this.
The
police.
G
I've
never
seen
council
vote
down,
one
funding
for
the
police,
not
one
funding
for
fire
department,
not
one
funding
for
ems.
If
they
ask
for
10
million
tomorrow,
he
would
go
yes
in
15
minutes
for
the
first
time-
and
I
know
it's
going
to
be
uncomfortable
right:
they
have
this
investment
in
helping
black
people
in
black
communities
and
being
laser
like
effective
at
it.
I
know
that
it's
uncomfortable,
maybe
not
for
you,
but
it's
going
to
make
it
uncomfortable,
because
it's
a
it's
a
shift
of
priority.
G
G
Lastly,
I
have
the
highest
amount
of
respect
and
gratitude
to
director
his
rich
to
our
chief
of
police
and
to
tara,
who
has
coordinated
this
effort.
We
are
in
place
now
to
do
something
strategic,
historic
and
effective
in
our
city,
but
we
must
keep
the
focus
at
the
core
of
this
work
is
to
stop
black
men,
mostly
men,
but
to
stop
them
from
being
shot.
That's
the
corner
the
cornerstone
of
this
work.
G
I
don't
have
questions
I'm
completely
supportive
of
of
the
work
and
will
continue
to
and
hope
look
forward
to
having
a
post
agenda
just
on
this,
so
that
we
can
talk
about
the
model
in
greater
detail.
Talk
about
the
programs
and
greater
details,
talk
about
because
one
of
the
things
I
think
and
again
that
this
would
be
very.
You
need
to
be
clear.
G
Prevention,
money
and
intervention.
Money
are
not
the
same
thing
when
people
say
stop
the
balance
a
lot
of
times,
they're
thinking
put
money
in
after
school
programming.
You
should
put
money
into
you,
know,
meals
on
wheels
or
counseling
programs.
All
those
things
are
great
and
the
answer
it
has
to
be
coordinated.
If
you,
if
you
leave
the
the
county
to
do
the
social
work
it
won't
coordinate,
we
won't
have
the
resources
to
get
to
coordinate
it
with
the
outreach
workers
to
coordinate
it
with
the
city
police.
G
A
H
Just
want
to
make
a
final,
just
kind
of
wrap
up
what
my
thoughts
are
here.
So
you
know
I
had
an
interaction
before
I
got
to
office.
It
was
whenever
I
visited,
it
was
actually
a
housing
authority,
property
and
the
leader,
one
of
the
leaders
in
the
community,
took
me
to
an
area
where
there
was
people
were
you
know
they
experienced
violence,
they
were
saying
they
were
saying:
hey.
Can
you
help
us
get
this?
H
So
then
I
went
try
to
make
some
contacts,
even
though
I
wasn't
in
office
yet,
and
although
I
won
my
primary
and
I
was
trying
to
set
myself
up
for
being
an
elected
official,
and
I
learned
through
that
conversation,
while
you
know
the
housing
authority
said
well,
you
know
they
didn't.
No
one
contacted
us.
I
was
like
you
kidding
me
like
who
put
the
board
in
the
window
and
it
just
blew
me
away,
and
I
thought
that
you
know.
Maybe
there
was
like
system
that
was
set
up
where
you
know
low
barrier.
H
H
H
H
So
if
we
have
a
model
great,
let's
try
and
figure
out.
You
know
if
that
intervention
is
working.
What
are
all
services?
Are
we
tracking
how
many
times
we
just?
I
think
we
just
renewed
the
contract
with
paul
abernathy,
how
many
times
he
comes
to
those
you
know
and
then
how?
How
are
those
families
doing?
How
are
the
people
that
are
that
you
know
affected?
How
was
that
you
know?
H
How
was
that
how's
that
working
I
tried
to
implement
that
in
in
one
situation,
and
we
were
trying
to
get
other
people
trained
in
the
community
to
actually
be
toronto
response
people
when
paul
apparently
shows
up
it
didn't
work
out
as
well
as
I'd
like
to
see
it,
but
I
think
there's
some
hope
there,
because
that's
how
real
community
you
know
people
are
always
like.
How
do
we
get
involved
with
that
part
of
the
community?
H
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
think
of
models
that
involve
you
know
lifting
up
others
that
way,
but
also
tracking
it
understanding
the
model.
Does
that
work?
I
understand.
Intervention
is
obviously
key
to
it.
So
you
know,
before
it
happens,
can
we
do
overlays
of
maps
on
where
you
know
where
we're
putting
the
outreach
workers
like?
I
just
want
to
see
all
that
data.
H
It
like,
for
instance,
if
we're
I'm,
not
saying
it's
not
happening.
I
just
I
like
to
hear
about
like
a
motto
of
if
we're
going,
to
provide
buprenorphine
to
people
who
are
overdosing.
I'm
sorry
who
have
experienced
overdose,
you
know,
after
the
reverse
and
and
and
they
are,
you
know,
then
gets
set
up
with
possibly
a
pcp,
so
they
can
get
that
prescription
going.
If
that's
not
effective,
we
drop
it.
If
that's,
just
not
an
effective
model
like
anywhere
in
the
nation
should
just
drop
any
sort
of
ineffectiveness.
H
That
happens
if
we
are
not
successful
with
reducing
lift
assists
in
the
city
over.
You
know
the
course
of
years
when
we're
like
really
focusing
on
okay,
do
we
give
them
you
know?
Did
we
provide
them
the
right
care?
I
just
want
to
hear
the
like
a
similar
language
where
we're
going
towards
with
the
stop
the
violence
trust
fund.
In
terms
of
like
you
know
exactly
what
the
council
was
talking
about
in
terms
of,
I
believe
he
said
his
words.
H
So
we
can
just
see
how
both
models
are
working
we
don't
have
to.
We
can
do
it
in
two
separate
agendas,
but
also
it's
going
to
be
important
to
just
look
at
because
some
of
that
is,
you
know.
Obviously,
health
stays
more.
Someone,
that's
preventative,
and
I
guess,
with
the
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention,
we're
talking
about
more
intervention.
F
We
definitely
agree
with
you
and
that's
why
I
emphasize
the
importance
of
having
a
community
analyst
prior
to
this
trust
fund.
We
couldn't
devote
any
more
resources,
any
more
people
and
a
city
staff
are
just
at
capacity
and
that
skill
set
that
we
need
to
do
the
actually
analyzing
the
data
overlaying,
the
maps
partnering
with
other
entities,
the
school
district,
father
paul
and
his
team
things
like
that.
To
actually
do
some
data
sharing
and
what
does
that
look
like
because
we
do
need
to
like
the
comprehensive
picture?
F
Is
this
effective
and
we
can't
really
measure
that
on
our
data
and
our
statistics
alone,
we
need
to
know
how
the
presence
of
our
outreach
workers
in
the
work
that
they're
doing
are
actually
impacting
the
schools
that
they're
in
and
so
as
we
grow.
This.
Those
are
the
things
that
we
want
to
do.
We
want
to
take
that
deeper
dive
into
it
and
then,
as
far
as
the
housing
authority
is
concerned,
we
have
our
outreach
workers
and
they
can
track
it
so
far.
F
But
when
we're
dealing
with
and
I'll
just
use
it
two
entities
that
you
that
you
named
housing
authority,
as
well
as
the
neighborhood
resiliency,
with
their
trauma
van
and
things
like
that,
we
can
influence,
we
can
encourage.
We
can
have
conversations,
housing
and
authority
is
at
the
table,
but
we
really
can't
influence
their
ticketing
process.
F
F
You
know
how
many
interactions,
how
many
engagements,
how
many
follow-ups
and
things
like
that
now
we're
at
a
place
that
we
have
the
money
and
we're
really
ready
to
level
up
and
really
evaluate
community
impact,
and
what
does
that
look
like,
and
not
only
will
it
help
us
you
know
for
next
year
and
our
service
is
working
but
also
indicate
do
we
need
to
pivot.
Like
you
said,
is
this
model
not
working?
Then
we
drop
it,
but
we
can
only
get
to
that
assessment
once
we
have
that
full
picture
so.
A
Thank
you
just
a
quick
question.
Obviously,
transparency.
We
talked
about
directors
been
very
helpful
with
that
on
a
number
of
things
data-driven
for
all
of
our
departments,
especially
police.
So
I
think
we're
getting
to
that.
I
think
more
analyst
is
very
helpful,
so
I
guess
my
question
would
be
the
feasibility
of
this
long
term.
A
So
what
we
need
to
look
at
as
a
council
is
your
departments
that
have
done
a
good
job,
and
you
know
you
mentioned
40
patients
follow-ups
things
like
that
and
I'm
sure
the
numbers
are
going
to
grow
over
the
years.
I
think
we,
as
a
council
need
to
look
up
what's
the
feasibility
of
continuing
to
fund
these
programs
over
the
next
five
years,
and
you
know
when
more
and
more
organizations
start
doing
this
work,
does
the
stop
the
violence
just
go
to
those
organizations
and
there's
a
bigger
pot
for
what
you
all
are
doing.
A
A
A
F
A
That's
yeah.
I
think
that
would
be
the
number
you
know
looking
forward
to
the
next
few
years
and
what's
going
on
what?
What
is
that
number
that
council
has
to
have
in
our
heads
so
that
instead
of
80,
we
could
actually
give
all
of
it
out
to
neighborhood
groups,
and
we
can
fund
you
internally
and
put
our
resources
where
our
mouths
are.
This
is
what
we
want
to
fund.
This
is
a
priority
in
council
in
public
safety.
How
do
we
do
that?
A
So
that's
more
or
less
my
statement,
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here.
I
know
throughout
this
budget
process
you
all
have
been
very
helpful.
Getting
us
all
the
information
answering
all
of
council's
questions
throughout
this
process.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
hard
work,
and
now
it
is
my
duty,
so
I
don't
mess
this
up
to
announce
that
we,
our
next
budget
hearing,
is
tomorrow
1
30
the
department
of
innovation
and
performance
shared
by
councilman
strasberger.