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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
standing
committee
meeting
for
wednesday
february,
2nd
2022.
council
members
are
encouraging
virtual
public
participation
as
there's
limited
seating
in
council
chambers
due
to
the
number
of
covet
infection,
19
infections.
In
our
areas,
all
meetings
will
be
live
streamed
on
the
city
website
and
the
city
pittsburgh
youtube
channel.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
roll
call.
Will
the
clerk
please
take
the
roll.
B
A
Thank
you.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
public
comment
and
I'd
like
to
remind
all
speakers
of
the
rules.
The
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
maybe
before,
city
council
profanity
will
not
be
permitted.
Once
I
call
you,
please
provide
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
record.
You
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
Our
first
registered
speaker
is
dr
ronald
lynn,
miller.
C
Dr
ronald
miller,
belsuva
homewood,
ireland,
new
york
city,
new
york,
gabarone
botswana,
on
my
residences,
among
the
among
others,
global
intelligence,
society,
u.s
national
candidate
2024
twitter,
dr
ron
miller
at
dr
ron,
lynn
miller.
One
a
concern
of
this
council
is
with
africa.
C
The
governing
pittsburgh
comparison
is
very
valuable.
I
think
in
information
and
intelligence
to
us,
gabarani
has
approximately
250
000
in
population
which
compares
with
pittsburgh's
300
000
midsize
cities.
Galvaroni
has
a
minimum
of
12
universities
in
colleges,
25
plus
here
in
pittsburgh,
the
former
dominated
by
the
university
of
botswana.
C
The
current
president
of
botswana
is
a
graduate
of
the
university
of
botswana
and
here
dominated
by
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
Both
national
education,
beacons,
gabarroni's
economy
is
based
on
diamonds,
which
is
unlike
pittsburgh's,
25
000
companies,
at
least
that
centers
on
medical,
primarily
medical
and
information
systems.
C
C
Gabarroni
is
93
racially
black
compared
with
or
contrasted
with
pittsburgh,
which
last
estimate
23
percent
black.
So
what
is
the
meaning
of
black
as
a
constructive
racial
identity?
Quality?
I've
asked
people
all
over
the
united
states
about
this
and
biological
genetic
code
for
dark
skin
color
is
the
agreed
line,
but
I
would
like
to
add
three
in
conjunction
with
these
people:
maximum
anthropological
intelligence,
the
genetic
code,
dispersal
across
the
world,
a
maximum
musicological
intelligence,
the
generation
of
novel
and
complex
diaspora
africans
have
done
this
jazz
being
a
very
important
one.
C
In
my
view,
and
maximum
co-linguistic
intelligence.
There
is
no
other
region
on
earth.
Three
thousand
languages.
D
Good
morning,
shady
trees,
not
shady
deals
in
bonaire.
We,
the
people
of
bonaire,
have
significant
investments
into
our
properties.
We
stand
to
lose
significant
value
financially
and
quality
of
life
reduction.
The
largest
investment
that
the
average
american
will
make
is
their
home.
Our
biggest
assets
are
being
threatened.
This
is
why
we
as
a
community
have
expressed
significant
concern
about
the
potential
development
of
bonaire
school
into
anything
other
than
a
green
space.
D
We
already
had
a
valuable
school
stolen
from
our
community.
We
deserve
a
valuable
green
space
to
replace
it.
The
pennsylvania
constitution
states
under
political
powers
that
all
power
is
inherent
in
the
people
and
all
free
governments
are
founded
on
their
authority
and
instituted
for
their
peace,
safety
and
happiness.
D
Negligent,
infliction
of
emotional
distress
and
blockbusting
are
being
perpetrated
by
those
who
oppose
our
community.
Real
damages
are
occurring
to
the
bonaire
community.
I
have
no
doubt
that
this
controversy
was
a
contributing
factor
to
the
demise
of
my
husband.
The
pps
created
this
controversy
against
us,
the
property
owners
of
bonaire.
D
D
My
husband,
michael,
was,
was
duty-bound
his
entire
adult
life.
He
completed
his
mission
on
earth.
Well,
he
is
now
one
of
the
watchers
and
helping
in
the
spiritual
realm.
He
is
still
a
force
with
us.
A
neighbor
wrote,
I
think,
one
of
the
best
ways
we
will
honor
him
is
to
keep
fighting
for
bonaire
and
be
kind
to
our
neighbors.
We
will
commit
to
that.
I
promise
shady
trees,
not
shady
deals
in
bonaire.
A
E
E
Thank
you
good
morning,
madam
president
and
council
members.
I
am
renee
haines
johnson
and
I
live
in
wilkinsburg,
the
wilkinsburg
community
destruction
corporation.
An
active
political
huckster,
along
with
their
paid
cronies
and
political
allies,
will
present
their
biased
wares
to
you
this
afternoon
to
affect
the
sale
of
wilkinsburg.
E
I
guess
that
I
question
the
county's
role
in
this
and
their
motivation,
as
they
are
a
higher
political
entity
with
their
own
funds
to
act
on
the
penn
avenue
corridor
which
they
lust
to
see
developed
since
development
seems
to
be
such
an
issue,
I'm
sure
you'll
see
a
vibrant
and
colorful
presentation.
This
afternoon.
E
The
charts
and
graphs
presented
by
hrna
advisors
and
pfm
financial
advisors
may
be
titillating,
but
are
biased
to
persuade
you
to
get
on
board
the
wcdc's
annex
wilkinsburg
train
again.
I
caution
you
to
not
be
bamboozled,
there's
an
old
saying
if
you
can't
dazzle
them
with
brilliance,
baffle
them
with
bs.
A
F
Thank
you.
My
name
is
les
ludwig
6589
rosemoor
street
squirrel
hill,
and
I
bring
a
card,
a
business
card
for
a
man
who
literally
was
so
disturbed
that
he
was
screaming
publicly
in.
F
Miracle
year's
waiting
room
almost
a
year
ago,
and
what
was
he
screaming
about?
Well,
it
happens
that
chip
purcell
of
the
enviro
21
company
301
grant
street
operates
apparently
a
dump
and
he
can't
get
the
business
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
or
at
least
that's
that
was
his
complaint
to
the
tune
of
75
difference
less
money
for
each
packer
that
when
that
goes
to
the
dump.
F
I
understand,
mr
coghill,
that
this
is
your
area
and
I'll
give
you
the
card
check
it
out.
It's
money
going
down
the
to
literally
down
the
tube.
If,
if
the
information
that
I
got
was
correct,
so
a
person
has
a
responsibility
in
a
community
to
get
up
and
bring
that
information
forward,
and
I
do
it
with
great
pleasure
and
it
would
be
my
pleasure
to
work
with
you
if
I,
if
there's
anything
that
you
want
done.
F
When
you
keep
doing
the
same
thing
over
and
over
and
over
again,
it
becomes
a
habit
pattern
and
what
happens?
Nothing
new,
there's
not
room
for
anything
new,
I'm
the
guy
who
came
with
the
idea
of
don't
pave
under
where
the
cars
are
parked
paved
more
miles
of
roads
in
2003,
it's
in
the
minutes
of
the
meeting,
and
it
took
how
many
years
to
even
reach
reality
here
in
the
community.
G
My
name
is
yvonne,
f
brown.
I
live
in
at
keggley,
where
ervis.
I
first
wanted
to
say
that
emma
fox
passed
away
a
lot
of
my
the
residents
and
in
the
community
to
see
me
see
me
and
told
me.
I
saw
you
on
tv,
I
said
it
has
to
be
all
frame
and
it
was
it
was
with
miss
alma
fox.
That
was
when
the
mayor
was
giving
her
the
key
to
the
city.
G
I
was
leaving
city
council,
and
here
she
was,
they
were
rolling
her
in
the
wheelchair,
and,
I
said,
oh
miss
fox.
She
said
yes
they're,
giving
me
the
key
to
the
city
and
I
asked
her.
Could
I
come
and
she
said
yes
and
then
she
took-
and
she
hugged
me-
and
she
was
saying
this
is
my
little
advocate
that
they're
fighting
for
the
city
for
all
the
people
in
the
city
even
alma,
knew
that
I
was
fighting.
G
This
is
a
woman
that
went
to
jail
for
our
rights
because
you
know
we
weren't
allowed
to
go
into
coffmans
and
stores.
We
had
to
buy
our
clothes
and
take
them.
We
wasn't
even
allowed
to
try
them
on.
They
didn't
hire
too
many
black
people
either.
She
fought
just
like
I'm
fighting
and
I'm
fighting,
because
you
have
make
you're
making
the
decision
in
life
and
death
with
us
like.
G
Yes,
I
want
to
bring
up
to
the
last
lady
that
spoke
when
she
said
about
it's
going
to
be
a
meeting,
and
it
will
be
this
afternoon
we,
but
we
can't
speak.
I
found
out,
but
I'm
going
to
be
here,
because
I
want
to
look
at
them:
police
and
everybody.
That's
in
here
for
you
to
look
look.
This
is
my
son
who
was
killed.
G
Look
I
want
you
to
see
a
dark
black
man,
that's
why
he
died
because
he
was
dark
complected.
My
daughter
said
when
he
came
down
the
steps
and
said:
let
me
get
myself
together
and
crawled
in
there
was
saying
no
no
and
the
shirt
went
up.
There
was
marks
in
his
back
the
the
police
hauler.
You
were
shot.
He
said
yeah
how
many
times
twice
and
when
I
read
the
autopsy
I
called
my
daughter.
I
was
crying.
I
said
what
she
said:
mama
had
been
shot
in
his
leg.
G
He
never
told
you,
but
if
it
had
been
a
what
he
had
been
operation
where
he
had
been
stabbed
in
his
back
calling
and
testing
and
kidney
severed
in
half,
but
because
of
the
carrot,
juice
and
I'm
telling
you
I
made
him
drink
that
for
all
his
life
it
fused
back
together.
Even
the
doctor
said,
come
in
as
a
miracle.
His
kidney
is
fused
back
together.
G
Do
you
understand
if
we
can
help
any
person,
and
this
is
for
any
anyone
when
you
lose
someone
like
miss
alma
fox?
I
feel
for
her
and
with
her,
and
I
hope
it'd
be
the
same
for
me.
They
said
let
the
work
I
do
speak
for
me.
I
hope
things
will
say
that
I
come
down
not
to
argue
with
you,
but
to
bring
the
bring
to
light
that
you
have
a
man,
a
man
that
was
begging
for
his
life.
G
A
C
A
I
K
That's
right:
councilman
jake,
paul
director
office
of
management
and
budget
and,
I
believe
sorry,
services
manager,
brandon
bolton,
is
on.
B
K
Chair,
if
I
might
suggest
the
first
four
are
not
the
ones
that
have
an
amendment,
it's
bill,
46
the
ela,
build
it
does.
So
you
might
pleasure
of
counsel.
You
might
read
the
first
four
together.
I
only.
H
Eighty
one
resolution
further
amending
resolution
number
797
resolution
adopting
and
approving
the
2018
capital
budget,
the
2018
cdbg
program,
the
2018
through
2023
capital
improvement
program
by
reducing
enterprise
resource
planning
by
one
hundred
thirty,
seven
thousand
thirty,
seven
dollars
and
sixty
cents
and
increasing
capital
equipment
acquisition
by
one
hundred
thirty,
seven
thousand
thirty,
seven
dollars
and
sixty
cents
bill
number.
Eighty
two.
H
All
right
bill
82
resolution,
further
amending
resolution,
number
863
of
2018
entitled
resolution
adopting
and
approving
the
2019
capital
budget.
The
2019
cdbg
program,
the
2019
through
2024
capital
improvement
program
by
reducing
consultants
for
plans
and
studies
by
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
reducing
park
reconstruction
by
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
increasing
capital
equipment
acquisition
by
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
Thank
you
unless
you.
B
M
Discombobulated,
but
first
I
want
to
you
know
thank
the
administration,
mr
pollock,
you
know
here's
where
we're
at
with
public
works.
So
so
we
all
know.
Last
year
we
made
a
great
deal
of
improvements.
You
know
whether
it
was
assault,
distribution
from
the
trucks
making
sure
our
people
come
in.
You
know
as
a
required
overtime,
but
after
many
days
and
many
talks
with
the
administration
we've
come
to
the
conclusion.
M
M
We've
you
know
to
to
much
of
the
accredited
administration
they
scrambled.
They
found
money
I
want
to
thank
the
lion's
share
is
coming
from
councilwoman
gross's
district.
I
understand
it's
by
loan,
so
I
will
make
that
clear,
but
but
no
I
I
can't
say
enough
as
to
this
is
the
only
thing,
the
immediate
impact
that
we
can
have
for
just
to
get
us
through
this
year.
The
other
thing
is
the
way
that
it
was
done.
M
The
majority
of
that
is,
you
know,
going
towards
almost
400
000
towards
the
purchase
of
the
six
vehicles
and
that
that's
fully
equipped
with
the
plow
with
the
salt
spreader
with
everything
I
need
so
so
I
couldn't
be
more
delighted
if
this
is
an
example
of
how
this
administration
is
going
to
work
with
council
we're
all
going
to
be
in
good
hands.
I
think
with
whether
it's
this
crisis.
M
I
think
I
call
this
a
crisis
in
my
in
my
district,
because
just
a
matter
of
time
be
so
before
somebody
signs
on
a
hill
and
is
seriously
injured
or
killed.
So
so
that's
where
that
and
that's
where
it's
at
and
then
you
know
turn
it
back
to
you,
mr
chair.
I
Well,
thanks
councilman,
and
you
know
after
the
last
snowstorm
I
I
was
really
wondering
what
was
going
on,
so
I
drove
over
to
your
area
to
compare
so
we're
in
a
very
similar
situation.
So
I
just
wanna
thanks
for
looking
into
this,
so
I
just
want
to
know
so
we're
getting
12
vehicles.
K
K
I
start
with
what
the
the
budgetary
amendments
are,
and
you
know
what
is
being
changed
within
the
budget
to
accomplish
this,
and
then
we
can
talk
and
brandon
will
jump
in
to
discuss
in
greater
detail
than
I
can
the
the
equipment
side
of
things
you
know
having
been
through
now
for
winter
weather
events
in
a
month
this
has
been
an
uncharacteristically,
at
least
through
recent
example.
K
Snowy
winter
yeah
we
have
been
working
with
the
administration
been
working
closely
with
the
department
of
public
works
to
assess
their
needs,
and
it's
clear
as
councilman
coghill
mentioned,
that
due
to
the
you
know,
unforeseen-
and
you
know
out
of
everyone-
here's
hands
delay
in
the
delivery
of
new
vehicles
that
were
ordered
last
year.
There
is
a
shortage
of
vehicles.
Able,
to
you
know,
help
us
meet
our
snow
service
needs,
particularly
because
this
fleet
is
older
than
it
should
be
by
director
hornstein's
estimation
about
twice
as
twice
as
old.
K
As
it
should
be,
and
that
results
in
a
larger
number
of
vehicles
than
usual
going
down
for
long-term
maintenance
and
also
just
vehicles
in
the
midst
of
a
snowstorm,
even
if
the
maintenance
is
short-term,
being
placed
out
of
service
during
those
critical
hours
to
treat
a
snow
event.
So
our
assessment
was
that
you
know
a
supplementary
purchase
of
vehicles
and
in
this
case
the
leasing
of
vehicles
was
necessary
to
maintain
or
and
speaks
and
possibly
improve
our
level
of
service
in
snow
events.
K
To
that
end,
we
began
looking
at
budget
line
items
that
are
either
a
capital
budget
line
items
that
are
either
essentially
dormant.
You
know,
funds
left
over
from
projects
that
are
weren't
needed
or
are
are
complete,
as
well
as
a
couple
of
projects
that
were
not
in
a
position
to
be
contracted
and
encumbered
this
year,
so
that
we
could
access
those
dollars
to
make
a
quick
purchase
to.
K
Needs
of
the
city
during
this
I
can.
I
can
quickly
reference
what
those
projects
are.
There
was
funding
in
the
budget
for
a
saw
mill,
run
zoning
study-
that
was,
I
believe,
a
request
of
councilman
coghill's,
which
he
graciously
agreed
to
defer
for
the
purposes
of
making
this
purchase.
Given
the
the
needs
of
his.
K
There
was
a
very
old
2014
architectural
engineering
services
line
item
with
the
remaining
balance
of
36
000,
that
that
line
item
really
predates
the
establishment
of
domi
and
was
kind
of.
I
think
I
think,
it's
fair
to
say,
sort
of
fell
through
the
cracks
in
that
transition
between
domi
and
dpw,
and
so
no
one
was
accessing
that
line
item
for
for
many
years
and
as
a
result,
it's
available
for
reprogramming,
as
councilman
coghill
mentioned.
Councilwoman
gross
has
very
graciously
and
generously
lent
us
the
money
for
leslie
parkel.
K
K
The
councilwoman
agreed
and
again.
I
very
much
appreciate
her
accommodating
us
on
this-
that
we
could
make
use
of
these
funds
for
this
immediate
need
and
and
ensure
that
that
project
moves
forward
as
soon
as
possible,
with
both
new
funding
and
a
plan
to
execute
on
it,
enterprise
resource
planning
from
2018.
This
is
leftover
funds
from
a
jd
edwards
upgrade.
That
would
not
needed
to
complete
that
project
and
a
small
remainder
in
an
imp
fund
for
an
integrated,
self-assessed
business
management
tool.
K
Again,
there's
only
a
three,
almost
four
thousand
dollar
remainder
there-
that
was
just
still
in
the
budget.
So
what
we
really
have
is
five
lines,
three
of
which
were
not
well
not
capital
projects
in
a
district,
but
rather
you
know
asset
improvement
upgrades
with
with
remaining
funds,
two
of
which
were
council
district,
specific
ones,
and
the
council
members
have
agreed
to
this
repurposing
for
the
time
being
financially.
That's
where
the
funds
are
being
drawn
from
all
right.
N
K
Sorry
in
terms
of
what
we
we
get
with
those
dollars
as
councilman
coghill
mentioned,
we'll
be
purchasing
six
vehicles.
Brandon
can
speak
to
the
the
specs,
but
I
believe
they
are
chevy
2500
and
3500s
and
leasing
some
vehicles
to
supplement,
and
I
think
we
we
are
looking
at
this
lease
process,
as
potentially
a
pilot
for
ways
in
future
years,
that
we
can
be
more
flexible
with
the
composition
of
the
fleet
as
we
upgrade
it.
K
You
know
there
are
many
vehicles
in
our
inventory
that
are
only
used
for
winter
operations
and
so
and
that
basically
sit
in
the
garage,
the
rest
of
the
year.
More
work
needs
to
be
done
and
we
need
to
sort
of
learn
from
the
experience
of
doing
a
lease
this
year
to
know
whether
that's
a
viable
option
for
the
future,
but
something
that
will
give
us
good
experiential
data
on
how
we
most
effectively
cost
effectively
and
performance
effectively
manage
the
fleet.
So
with
that
it
councilman.
K
With
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
just
let
brandon
speak
further
to
any
of
the
specs.
A
Mr
walton
you're
being
asked
to
speak
to
the
sort
of
the
specs
of
the
trucks.
O
Yes,
sir,
sorry,
I
didn't
hear
that
so
with.
N
O
Six
purchases,
they
are
chevy
2500,
regular
cab,
pickups
with
the
8
foot
beds,
they're
being
purchased
through
the
pennsylvania
costars
contract
from
a
dealer
in
erie
they'll
be
upfitted
with
the
western
plows
that
we
use
on
on
our
normal
on
on
the
rest
of
our
fleet,
as
well
as
buyers,
salt
dogs,
those
are
being
purchased
through
the
co-stars
contract,
as
well
with
through
a
h
equipment.
O
As
for
the
six
leases
there,
this
the
specs
aren't
exactly
known
yet
so
it
will
be
four
pickups
similar
to
a
chevy
2500
with
an
eight
foot.
Bed
also
they'll
have
plows
similar
to
the
eight
foot
western
plows,
and
they
will
have
v
box
spreaders
similar
to
the
the
ones
that
we
use
the
buyers.
O
In
addition,
there
will
be
two
f-750s:
they
will
be
dump
trucks
with
tailgate
spreaders,
similar
to
what
we
use,
as
well
as
nine
to
eleven
foot
plows
similar
to
what
we
use
on
that
size
vehicle.
Those
are
scheduled
to
be
delivered,
hopefully,
the
next
week,
if
we
are
approved
to
do
this.
I
K
So
so
the
bill
46,
which
is
the
not
part
of
the
package,
that's
been
assembled
today,
but
which
will
be
the
next
item
that
council
votes
on
would
be
a
companion
amendment
to
increase
the
authorization
for
the
transfer
to
the
ela.
I
believe
they
would
do
this
as
an
interim
approval,
which
is
just
something
that
to
effectuate
that.
I
K
I
So,
okay,
so
you're
gonna
get
signatures,
do
interim
approval,
so
is
so
the
the
13
million
that
we
put
aside
for
for
vehicles?
When
do
we
expect
it
to
come
in.
K
I
don't
believe
that's
known
at
this
time.
That's
those
are
contin.
Those
continue
to
be
delayed
by
supply
chain
shortages.
I
don't
believe.
N
O
O
So
the
majority
of
everything
on
the
2021
plan
has
been
ordered
the
only
there
are
only
a
few
leftover
items
that
cannot
be
ordered
due
to
the
manufacturers,
not
opening
order
banks.
As
for
everything
that
else,
everything
else
that
is
ordered
some
of
the
some
of
the
items
are
starting
to
go
into
production,
we're
expecting
to
see
some
police
cars
as
well
as
some
a
chassis
for
an
ambulance
over
the
next.
You
know
a
few
weeks,
but
other
than
that
everything
else
has
been
delayed
by
the
supply
shortages.
O
We
do
not
have
an
estimated
delivery
date.
I
Okay,
so
how
many
vehicles
were
coming
in
that
was
going
to
like
replace
the
whole
fee
fleet?
Imagine
13
million
is
a
big
number.
K
It's
no!
It's
not
going
to
replace
the
whole
fleet.
That's
17
vehicles
that
that's
upgrade
to
the
existing.
Oh,
that.
I
O
There
there
are
13
similar
to
the
chevy
2500s,
they
are
ford
f-350s
and
they
would
get
the
v
box
spreaders
and
plow
systems.
Those
are
not
scheduled
for
production,
yet
we
can't
get
them
moved
to
a
different
manufacturer.
So
we
are
waiting
on
those.
Those
are
part
of
that
dollars.
From
2021.
O
we
had.
We
also
had
a
an
f
550
11
foot
dump
that
will
also
have
a
spreader
and
a
plow
that
was
ordered
last
year.
It
has
been
delivered
to
the
upfit
vendor,
who
will
put
the
bed
spreader
plow
and
skyhawk
snowplow
tracker
just
the
morning.
O
I
K
Between
between
well
first
of
all,
because
those
other
vehicles
have
not
yet
arrived,
you
know,
and
because
of
the
number
of
vehicles
that
are
out
of
service
for
maintenance,
either
long
term
or
at
any
given
time,
and
because
the
department
of
public
works
has
just
hired
nine
more
drivers.
The
the
the
short
answer
to
your
question
is:
yes,
I
mean
obviously
on
any
given
shift.
K
Yeah,
I
I
think
the
rough
plan
is
if
once
all
12
vehicles
are
available,
two
per
division
and
then
there
would
be
that
would
be
two
additional
vehicles
to
be
allocated
based
on
need.
I
think
so.
I
Okay,
I
think
you
know
part
of
the
larger
issue
that
I'm
seeing
is
just
not
knowing
where,
where
we
haven't
been.
I
mentioned
this
yesterday
in
comments
about
this,
and
so
you
know
we
have
two
different
gps
systems
and
then
then
there's
always
the
paper
route.
I
I
So
can
you
explain
what's
going
on
because
my
residents,
like
call
in
you,
know
to
the
office
and
then
we're
always
putting
the
streets
in
after
the
fact
to
supervisor,
and
they
do
a
great
job,
and
I
think
that
you
know
the
workers
are,
you
know
they're
there
doing
their
job
supervisors
trying
to
manage
what
you
know
what's
going
on?
I
just
feel
like
we
have
all
this
technology.
I
K
Yeah
that
would
take
many
more
drivers
and
many
more
trucks
than
what
is
being
proposed
here.
I
think
that
your,
that
is,
the
level
of
service
that
the
administration
is
aiming
for,
but
understanding
that
we're
not
going
to
get
there
overnight
and
not
realistically
going
to
get
there
in
this
snow
season.
However,
we
are
with
this
action
and
others
that
we're
taking
looking
to
minimize
and
reduce
the
reduced
amount
of
time
it
takes
us
to
to
reach
an
adequate
level
of
service
through
investments
in
equipment
and
personnel
and
in
systems
improvement.
K
Frankly,
I
mean
it
will
take
a
a
lot
of
work
in
the
off
season.
If
you
will,
this
year
that
once
we
get
through
the
winter
weather
season,
to
look
at
some
of
those
optimization
questions
right
now,
we're
looking
to
triage
the
problem
by
ensuring
that
we
have
more
vehicles
and
are
not
down
significantly
in
the
number
of
available
vehicles
due
to
maintenance.
K
So
this
is
a
certainly
a
stop
gap
measure,
but
one
that
we
think
is
necessary
to
ensure
that,
through
february
and
march
and
even
april
snows,
you
know
that
we
are
as
prepared
as
we
can
be.
B
K
Just
the
issue,
so
your
question
about
gps,
so
the
there
are
gps
systems
that
track
the
movements
of
the
vehicles.
K
That's
what
you
see
in
the
snowplow
tracker,
so
there
are
times
there
it's
frequently
the
case
that
there
will
be
a
vehicle
that
is
not
reporting
for
technical,
really
reasons
related
to
the
gps
and
so
you're
right.
Sometimes
there
is
work
that
is
happening,
that's
not
showing
up
in
the
tracker
that
happens
on
a
sort
of
ad
hoc
basis
right,
so
a
piece
of
equipment
is
down
or
something
like
that.
The
other
issue
you're
asking
about,
I
think,
is
the
gps
routing
that
is
not
in
effect
this
year.
K
That
was
a
decision
made
by
acting
director
hornstein
the
the
previous
attempt
to
do
a
route
optimization,
which
was
to
redesign
all
the
routes
and
load
those
redesign
routes
into
the
gps
units
was
so
it
was
the
experience
after
testing
that
out
that
the
the
routes
changed
so
dramatically
in
that
optimization
attempt
that
it
was
causing
basically
confusion
for
the
drivers
who
had
who
are
used
to
their
existing
routes.
So
at
the
moment
drivers
are
operating
off
of
the
routes
that
predated
that
optimization.
K
They
are
on
paper.
Most
of
the
drivers
drive
consistent
routes
to
sort
of
know
their
route,
but
if
someone's
reassigned
they
have
that
as
their
guide.
The
objective
is
to
do
the
do
another
round
of
the
optimization.
That
is
not
such
a
dramatic
shift
from
the
previous
routing,
so
it
will
be
a
change
to
the
routes,
but
not
as
complete
of
one.
K
You
know
it's
not
not
totally
different,
so
that
they're
to
strike
the
right
balance
between
sort
of
the
driver's
institutional
knowledge
and
the
the
the
efficiency
that
can
be
gained
from
the
routing.
So
so
we're
we're
working
expeditiously
to
implement
that,
so
the
drivers
will
have
a
route
on
the
gps,
but
that's
not
presently
in
place.
K
I
don't
have
a
timeline,
I'm
sorry,
that's
a
work
in
progress,
it's
something
that
that
the
department
is
pursuing,
but
I
I
don't
believe
we
have
a
firm
timeline
is.
I
I
K
So
so
that
that
is
is
known
right.
The
the
streets
that
have
not
been
serviced
is
known.
Based
on
the
I
mean
the
technology
that
tracks
where
the
trucks
have
been
so
so
so
it
there's
not
not
an
issue
of
identifying
streets
that
have
not
yet
been
serviced.
That's
separate
from
the
routing
question,
which
is
where
the
drivers
are.
K
I
K
B
I
K
Like
the
the
the
issue,
is
I
mean
there?
Are
there
are
technological
limitations?
I
should.
I
should
state
that
you
know,
as
I
said,
sometimes
vehicles
don't
report.
Sometimes
the
vehicles
are
moving
below
a
certain
speed
that
doesn't
show
up,
and
so
so
there
are
gaps
in
the
data
and
that's
not
a
system
issue.
I
mean
it's.
There
are
limitations
to
what
the
technology
can
provide.
I
guess
I
would
put
it
that
way
to
your
point
about
streets
that
are
not
serviced.
K
You
know,
speaking
from
from
from
personal
experience,
having
gone
on
a
ride
along
with
with
a
driver
in
the
first
snowstorm
of
this
year.
You
know
often
the
plowing
is
happening
at
night.
Often
you
know
with
snow
falling
visibility
is
low;
sometimes
cars
are
particularly
if
they
park
during
the
snowstorm
they're
parked
in
such
a
way
that
the
truck
can't
get
through.
So
they
have
to
do.
You
know
they
have
to
go
around
the
block.
K
You
know
while
that's
happening,
and
then
you
know
those
cars
move
at
some
point
and
it
does
become
accessible
and
by
that
time
we
maybe
have
gotten
a
call
so
they're.
It's
not
that
they
didn't
know
they
had
to
go
back
there,
but
you
know
there's
a
timing
issue
right.
It's
also
the
case
that
during
a
snow
event,
you
know
the
the
like,
while
the
snow
is
still
falling
right.
The
primary
objective
is
to
keep
emergency
routes
and
routes
to
and
from
hospitals
clear.
K
So
it
is
the
case
that,
if,
depending
on
how
long
a
snow
event
lasts,
some
of
those
other
streets
are
not
treated
as
expeditiously
as
we
would
like,
and
that
is
sometimes
what
results
in
a
call
that
says
they
haven't
been
treated
and
we
get
someone
there
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
really
the
the
issue.
Frankly,
is
you
know
one
of
of
equipment
and
personnel?
K
You
know
if,
if
a
truck
is
being
dispatched
to
service
a
route
in
a
particular
neighborhood,
and
that
truck
goes
down
for
maintenance
and
needs
to
be
diverted
to
first
vehicle
or
heavy
equipment
for
repairs.
K
That
means
that
that
route
is
not
able
to
be
serviced
until
a
driver,
who's
driving
a
different
route
finishes
their
route
and
then
is
reassigned,
and
so
that
can
lead
to
delays
in
a
neighborhood
that
are
sporadic.
You
know,
yeah.
I
believe
you
know
I
forgive
me
there
have
been
four
of
them
now,
so
I
can't
remember
the
order,
but
you
know
there
have
been
times
just
to
use
an
example
from
your
district
councilman.
K
I
I
was
going
to
bring
up
troy
hill
because
I
had
multiple
calls
and
whenever
I
talked
to
the
supervisor,
he
would
say
that
you
know
the
the
small
truck
is
down
yeah.
So
I
I
appreciate
you,
you
all
looking
into
this
and
and
I'm
gonna
be
supportive
because
I
wanna
you
know
I
like
to
to
see
some
problem
solving
and
I
want
to
see
if
this
is
going
to.
You
know
solve
that
solve
that
problem.
So
all
right
thanks.
P
You,
mr
chair,
thank
you
director
for
being
here
today.
I
too
appreciate
the
creative
problem
solving
and
thanks
to
councilman,
coghill
and
councilman
gross
for
getting
up
for
your
problem
solving
for
giving
up
some
of
your
own
projects
or
deferring
for
time
not
giving
up.
I.
P
I'm
trying
to
I'm
trying
to
glean
from
that
last
conversation
with
councilman
wilson.
They
answered
this
question,
but
I
don't
think
I
totally
heard
it
so
I
just
I'm
gonna
ask
it
again.
It
sounds
as
if
the
leasing
solution
will
help
us
for
future
storms
this
year,
this
winter
season,
but
given
the
supply
chain
problems
and
challenges
we're
facing.
P
Even
if
something
miraculous
happens,
we're
probably
not
going
to
see
those
new
purchases
in
these
bills
help
us
this
winter
season,
but
probably
next
winter
season.
No.
K
That's
that's!
No,
so
the
leases
will
be
available,
as
this
brand
was
saying
almost
immediately
pieces.
K
K
Bring
them
here
immediately,
they
will
need
to
be
upfitted,
as
brandon
mentioned,
added
having
the
plow
and
the
salt
spreaders
added,
and
that
will
take
some
time,
so
those
six
will
probably
trickle
into
the
supply
as
their
as
those
those
upfits
are
completed
so,
but
but
they
will
become
available
during
this.
This
snow
season.
P
Great
great,
that
was
my
main
question
when
I
kept
hearing
this
in
the
news
and
and
and
the
last
conversation.
So
when
you
say
flexibility,
you're
saying
that
potentially-
and
I
don't
tell
me
if
we
already
do
this-
I'm
guessing
no,
it's
given
that
we're
we're
asking
for
a
very
specific.
You
know,
specs
for
for
the
ones
that
we're
building
and
that
are
being
held
up
for
the
for
the
six
new
ones
that
are
essentially
pick
up
trucks
that
were
outfitting
with
the
necessary
equipment.
P
When
you
say
flexibility
and
use
for
other
off-season
uses.
Does
that
mean
that
it's
something
that's
flexible
enough?
Where
you
can
remove
the
plow
portion
of
it
and
use
it
for
other
dpw
needs?
That's.
P
A
Thank
you
so
that
takes
us
to
councilwoman
gross,
followed
by
councilman
krauss
and
president
smith.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
just
want
to
I'm
going
to
reiterate
that,
since
we
kind
of
have
been
talking
about
it
for
a
few
minutes,
so
just
to
be
loud
and
clear
since
I
my
district
is
giving
up
the
bulk
of
the
dollars,
we
have
drivers
with
no
vehicles
and
we've
had
repeated
snowstorm
events
we're
expecting
more.
Q
We
need
more
vehicles
immediately,
and
so
there
are
some
in
erie
and
we
can
buy
them,
and
that
was
the
urgency
that
the
director
called
me
with
when
and
just
to
be
clear
to
my
members,
because
I
will
need
your
help
in
replacing
these
dollars
that
I
first
said
no
absol.
Are
you
crazy?
Forget
it
right
a
few
days
ago,
because
leslie
park
is
where
this
money
is
coming
from.
Senator
furlow
gave
money
for
the
planning
to
replan
this
park.
So
it's
been
waiting
seven
years
we
had
the
community
mem.
Q
We
had
the
the
community
meetings,
we
had
the
planning,
it's
beat
up,
it's
graffitied,
it's
heartbreaking
to
people
in
lawrenceville
to
see
the
condition
of
the
closed
leslie
park,
pool
that
is
we're
not
maintaining
even
to
keep
it
clean.
So
that's
also
one
of
my
asks
that
we
get
out
there
and
we
get
it.
Q
So
it's
not
an
eyesore
and,
and
it's
not
so
painful,
and
that
we
replaced
this
money
and
it
and
and
even
though
the
money
was
there,
it
had
not
been
engineered,
it
had
not
been
encumbered
and
the
project
had
been
stuck
for
years.
So
my
ask
is
that
it
gets
unstuck
this
year
and
and
gets
moving
so
that
the
people
can
can
have
a
revitalized
park
and
if
you
haven't
noticed
there
are
quite
a
few
kids
in
morrisville
these
days.
So
it's
as
opposed
to
eight
years
ago.
Q
It's
really
in
demand,
it's
super
used
and
it
definitely
needs
a
little
love
and
attention,
and
so
that
is
that
is
the
kind
of
two
urgencies.
When
the
director
called
me
back
and
said,
look
it's
pago
money,
it's
the
kind
of
exactly
the
the
type
of
money
we
need.
These
trucks
are
sitting
in
eerie
and
we
can
get
them.
I
said
okay,
but
you
gotta
promise
to
do
this
project.
Q
So
that's
that's
the
promise
that
we're
all
making
and
I
will
and
respectfully
and
humbly
ask
my
members
to
cooperate
when
we,
when
we
find
the
funds
to
replace
these
funds,
but
for
today
we
can
get
trucks
with
these
funds
and
we
can
get
drivers
and
trucks
for
the
next
now.
So
that's
fingers
crossed
all
right.
Thank
you,
director.
That's
almost
your
chair.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
really
want
to
bring
this
conversation
back
to
the
heart
of
the
matter.
We
can
discuss
snow
removal.
We
have
discussed
the
processes
by
which
we
do
snow
removal
for
the
14
now
going
into
15
years
have
been
a
council,
and
I
suspect
that
will
be
discussed
for
the
next
15
years
as
well.
I'd
really
like
to
focus
this
on
the
acquisition,
the
purchase
of
these
vehicles,
how
it
came
to
be
and
the
dollars
by
which
we
are
using
to
purchase
the
vehicles
so
brandon.
L
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
you
and
and
for
those
that
may
not
know,
for
whatever
reason,
whether
they're
watching
or
listening.
I
speak
as
a
member
of
council
for
14
years
now
going
into
my
15th
year
and
a
member
of
the
equipment
leasing
authority
board
for
13
or
14
years
now
so
brandon.
Can
you
explain
for
the
edification
of
everyone,
the
co-stars
contract
and
how
we
are
using
this
contract
to
purchase
these
vehicles.
O
L
O
So
in
this
kind
of
an
acquisition
in
terms
of
buying
fleet
quickly
or
buying
fleet
in
general,
councilman.
O
So
what
we
do
I
need.
I.
L
Need
members
I
apologize
for
speaking,
I
need
newer
members,
perhaps,
and
the
public
at
large
understand
why
an
rfp
process
would
not
be
applicable
in
in
the
purchase
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
A
half
a
million
dollars
worth
of
vehicles.
O
Yes,
so
the
co-stars
agreement
allows
the
dealers
to
list
their
their
discount
that
they're
offering
on
top
of
the
manufacturer
discounts,
and
then
you
can,
you
can
actually
reach
out
and
competitively
bid
the
individual
dealerships,
which
is
what
we
normally
do
for
a
new
purchase
when
we're
gonna
order
trucks.
So
every
time
we
order
trucks,
we
do
put
it
out.
O
There's
about
90
dealers
in
the
in
the
state
that
are
part
of
the
co-stars
contract,
and
we,
you
know,
we
select
the
lowest
lowest,
basically
responsible,
yes
and
that's
who
we
purchase
from
for
each
and
we
do
that
for
every
single
make
and
model
vehicle
that
we're
purchasing,
whether
it's
police
cars
trucks.
O
Whatever
for
this
purchase,
we
basically
we
got
one
of
our
dealers
that
we
that
we
purchased
vehicles
on
from
in
2021
and
asked
them
to
do
a
nationwide
search
on
what
was
available
and
upon
doing
that,
we
then
asked
them
to
narrow
it
down
to
only
co-stars
dealers.
That
way
we
could
use
the
cooperative
purchasing
agreement
and
that's
when
we
found
these
six
trucks
in
erie
on
a
co
stars
dealer.
L
Okay,
thank
you
that
was
that
was
incredibly
helpful
and
were
you
who
was
asked
to
do
the
search
as
the
as
our
fleet
manager?
Were
you
one
the
one
who
was
asked
to
do
the
search
to
find
trucks
if
they
were
out
there.
O
Yes,
councilman,
I
am
the
primary
source
for
all
of
the
elas
purchasing
of
vehicles.
Everything
usually
flows
through
my
office.
L
I
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
be
over
cautionary,
but
I
want
to
be
protective
of
the
equipment,
leasing,
authority
and
the
the
powers
and
the
authority
that
they
have
and
the
systems
and
processes
by
which
we
purchase
vehicles,
and
I
want
to
make
certain
that
of
the
the
processes
and
the
systems
by
which
we
have
governed
ourselves
are
applicable
to
this
purchase
as
well
too,
can
you
please
explain
a
little
bit
to
us
the
conditions
of
the
the
lease
the
terms
of
the
lease
and
what
that
looks
like.
O
Yes,
councilman,
so
the
ela
is
is
held
to
you
know:
procurement
standards.
We
follow
the
ela
follows
the
state
procurement
standards,
as
well
as
some
of
the
city's
procurement
standards.
So
we
we
definitely
talked
to
the
procurement
team
before
making
any
purchase
on
any
cooperative
agreement.
So
this
herc
reynolds
is
the
company
that
we're
that
we're
doing
the
lease
from
they're
on
the
omnia
contract.
O
The
omnium
partners
contract
is
similar
to
co-stars,
but
it
is
a
nationwide
cooperative
agreement
where
cities
similar
to
us
will
put
out
an
rfp
or
or
an
ifb,
and
then
they
will
partner
with
omnia
to
make
it
available
to
other
municipalities
similar
to
us.
So
we
do
that
with
some
of
our
contracts
and
the
city
has
has
made
multiple
purchases
through
the
omni
partners
contracts.
O
L
And
forgive
me
I
I
had
an
email
come
in,
I
had
to
read:
did:
can
you
explain
again
that
the
terms
of
the
lease,
what
are
we
actually
committing
to
and
to
be
perfectly
upfront
with
members
and
anyone
else,
who's
listening?
I
have
reservations
about
our
commitment
on
council
in
the
expenditure
of
capital
dollars
is
always
to
make
investments
with
those
dollars
that
bear
fruit
for
at
least
five
years,
and
preferably
10
years,
and
so
too,
to
acquire
capital
dollars
to
go
into
a
rental
lease
which
will
expire
in
the
very
short
term.
L
I'm
not
sure
it's
prudent
to
be
using
capital
dollars
to
do
that,
and
perhaps
I
might
need
to
challenge
us
as
a
council
to
find
operating
dollars
by
which
we
can
lease
these
six
vehicles,
like
you,
said
on
a
short-term.
K
Basis,
if
I
may
quickly,
interject
all
of
the
funds
identified
are
pay
go
so
they,
while
they
are
coming
from
the
capital
budget,
they
are
not
they're,
not
debt,
they
are.
They
are
operating
dollars
that
were
placed
in
capital
budget
line
items
just
to
clarify
that.
L
I
I
I
do
appreciate
that
jake
and
thank
you
for
that.
I
still
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
belabor,
but
we
may
need
to
take
it
offline.
I
I
still
probably
need
my
comfort
level
raised
a
little
bit
more
to
find
a
better
source
for
very
short
term
in
lease
of
vehicles
and
using
dollars
that
can
be
used
for
structure
that
bears
longer
term
return.
L
I
have
to
think
that
through,
but
I'm
sorry
brandon,
I
forget
now
what
question
I
have
for
you.
O
You
were
asking
about
the
the
purchasing
platform
that
we
used
for
the
rental
itself,
yeah.
L
O
So
their
terms
are
they
give
you
a
monthly
price,
and
then
you,
you
select
the
the
length
of
the
rental
and
have
we
done
that?
Yes,
so
we
will
do
two
months
and
it
is
around
23
000
per
month,
plus
the
the
shipping
to
get
the
equipment
here.
L
L
Or
can
I
you're
not
a
chief?
How
can
I
address
you
better
than
jake.
L
Yeah
perfect,
thank
you
director
pollock.
So
can
you
help
me
to
to
perhaps
raise
my
comfort
level
as
to
how
and
why
we
chose
these
capital
dollars?
Generally
speaking,
and
I
think
this
and
forgive
me
I
might
be
out
on
a
limb
here-
this
might
even
be
legislated
at
some
point
in
time,
even
when
councilwoman
brewdiak
was
on
the
council.
I
think
I'd
have
to
ask
our
clerk
to
research
for
me
that
we
may
have
even
legislated
the
a
tighter
expenditure
of
capital
dollars
that
must
provide
investment
for
long
term.
K
Again
because
I
guess
my
response
to
that
would
be
that
the
dollars
in
question
here
are
pago.
They
were
placed
into
the
capital
budget
through
the
pay
go
process.
We
intentionally
did
not
access
any
bond
issuance
proceeds
for
this.
This
proposal
for
exactly
the
reason
that
you're
you're,
describing
that's
the
reason
that
we
looked
exclusively
at
pago
line
items
so
that
it
would
be
available
for
that
type
of
transaction
that
so
that
we
had
the
flexibility
to
not
be
utilizing.
L
Yeah
director,
I'm
not
arguing
that
and-
and
I
appreciate
your
position
on
that-
I'm
arguing-
perhaps
maybe
in
a
more
in
a
broader,
more
spiritual
term-
I
don't
have
to
say
it
of
what
capital
dollars
are
intended,
regardless
of
how
they
are
put
into
the
capital
budget.
L
K
Is
not
no
all
all
four
of
the
bills
simply
transform
pay,
go
dollars
from
various
line
items
in
various
budgets
into
into
vehicle
capital
equipment
acquisition.
Excuse
me
and
yes,
and
then
we
have
an
amendment
from
councilman
coghill
on
the
next
bill
bill
46
that
transfers
or
that
increases
the
authorization
for
the
ela
by
a
corresponding
amount.
So
there
is
not
there's
no
one-to-one
matching.
There
understood.
L
I
understood
and
appreciated
it
can.
Can
you
tell
me
director
please
if
the
equipment,
leasing,
authority
board
was
asked,
ask
their
thoughts
in
in
the
acquisition
and
I
don't
wanna
say,
signed
off
on
it
per
se,
because
there
has
not
been
a
interim
approval
process
that
has
taken
place,
although
that
happens
quite
often,
and
over
the
years
I've
signed
many
of
the
interim
approvals,
but
I'm
just
curious
on
on
a
bigger
level.
K
The
the
the
interim
approval
process
has
has
not
occurred
because
the
funds
have
not
been
appropriate
right.
We
did
not
want
to
presuppose
council's
approval
of
the
the
item.
The
you
you
are,
you
know,
you're
you're,
correct
to
point
out
that
the
board
has
not
been,
I
guess,
fully
consulted
or
briefed
on
this
question,
with
the
exception
of
some
individual
members
of
the
ela
who
have
been
involved
in
this
process.
This
is
really
something
that
we
initiated
last
friday
and
worked
on
over
the
weekend.
K
So
we
we
will,
of
course,
work
with
the
ela
to
execute
the
the
necessary
work
and
and
and
address
any
concerns
from
from
members.
But
I
I
I
take
your
point
and
I
think
if
again,
if
this
were
a
more
conventional
process,
that
would
have
been
something
that
we
would
have
taken
up,
perhaps
before
advancing
the
proposal
to
council,
but
given
what
we
believe
to
be
the
public
safety
implications
of
having
adequate
vehicles
available,
we
were
attempting
to
move
as
expeditiously
as
possible
here.
L
L
But
I
want
to
I
want
to
stress
the
the
importance
of
respecting
the
work
that
they
do
and
regardless
of
the
you
know
the
fury
of
the
moment
just
out
of
respect
for
them
and
the
work
that
they
do.
I
would
greatly
appreciate
if
there
was
consultation
with
the
equipment
leasing
authority
board,
that
they
are
comfortable
moving
with
us,
even
though
they
have
not
taken
an
official
action
so
that
we
do
not
go
through
this
process.
K
L
A
Thank
you,
councilman
burgess.
Did
you
have
questions.
A
J
J
I'm
not
going
to
ask
those
questions
here,
but
I
am
going
to
abstain
today
until
I
get
my
answers
when
you
and
I
work
through
these
concerns,
because
they're
significant
to
the
legality
of
this
and
we've
already
have
been
in
the
middle
of
another
con
enough
controversies
this
week
that
I
want
to
make
sure
whatever
we're
doing
here
is
is
right,
but
with
that
said,
I
do
know
that
we
talked
about
the
there
being
enough
vehicles
for
two
per
division,
and
I'm
seeing
eight
vehicles
is
that
am
I
missing
something
here.
J
K
That
we
haven't
allocated
the
individual,
I
mean
so
they're
going
to
come
up
become
available
at
different
times,
based
on
when
you
know
again.
Presupposing
the
council
approves
this
measure,
the
rentals
will
become
available
prior
to
the
the
purchase
trucks
which
will
take
some
time
to
upfit
so
that
they'll
be
deployed
as
they
become
available
to
the
divisions.
I
think,
as
brandon
mentioned,
all
of
the
12
vehicles,
10
are
pickup
size,
they're
they're,
equivalent
to
one
another,
so
they're
all
just
about
the
same
they're,
not
identical
but
they're.
K
J
And
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
councilman
coghill
for
thinking
outside
the
box,
even
though
this
is
unconventional
for
us,
and
so
it
is
a
little
bit
of
area
that
we're
not
used
to
going
down,
and
the
contracting
stuff
does
make
me
a
little
bit
nervous.
I'm
always
a
little
bit
more
cautious
with
that
here
period
and
bill.
I
know,
have
you
ever
done
this
before
through
the
ela,
where
you
purchased
equipment
and
that
didn't
come
back
to
council
for
contract
approval.
J
J
Yes,
okay,
that's
what
I
wanted
to
say:
okay,
so
that
we
have
a
little
bit
more
comfort
level
in
in
in
doing
this,
but
I
I
do
want
to
say:
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
getting
something
from
a
lot
from
the
law
department
saying
that
this
is
legal
across
the
board
and
what
we're
doing
that's
all.
But
I
want
to
thank
you
and
councilman
coghill
for
thinking
outside
the
box.
I
think
honestly,
the
snow
removal
has
been
an
issue
for
for
decades.
J
I
don't
know
that
it's
ever
going
to
be
resolved.
I
I
do
feel
a
little
apprehensive
about
leasing
the
equipment
versus
buying
it
purchasing
it
in
an
erie
instead
of
in
somewhere
in
pittsburgh,
or
around
here.
Councilman
gross
has
some
car
dealerships.
Councilman
called
kills
has
some
car
dealerships
in
the
area,
but
I
don't
know
if
they're
under
contract
so
sure.
K
So
so
the
the
the
reason
for
that
councilwoman
as
brandon
mentioned,
is
that
we
to
do
a
purchase
of
this
type.
That's
the
reason
we're
making
use
of
a
co-stars
dealership
so
that
because
because
that
allows
it
to
be
compliant
with
procurement
rules,
purchasing
from
you
know,.
J
I
heard
all
that
I
did
hear
all
that,
but
anyway
the
last
thing
I
just
I
want
to
ask
what
did
elephants
ask?
Do
we
know
when
we
anticipate
the
delivery
of
the
vehicles
that
we
have
purchased.
K
J
So
I
wonder
if
there's
some
way
we
can
get
out
of
that
contract
and
purchase
them
somewhere
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
wondering
what
we
can
do
legally,
because
it's
been
an
awfully
long
time
and
you
know
we've
waited
an
entire
year
for
these
vehicles
to
come
in.
So
I'm
wondering
legally
where
we
stand,
and
so
that's
another
question
that
I
have
for
our
law
department
and
so
I'll
I'll
pursue
that
as
well,
because,
yes,.
K
J
This
is
just
getting
unacceptable
and
our
residents
and
our
workers
deserve
better
than
that,
and
I
think
next
year,
when
we
have
new
equipment,
when
we
have
a
better
system
in
place
when
all
the
things
we
do,
there
will
be
no
excuse
for
these
words,
and
then
I
think,
if
it
happens
again,
the
council
is
going
to
have
a
lot
of
questions,
but
I
want
people
to
know
in
the
meantime
and
in
the
interim
you
are
working
towards
getting
a
better
result
and
I
do
want
to
say
I
think
director
hornstein
is
trying
very
hard
and
I
think
the
crews
are
working
really
hard
and
I
think
your
administrations-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
chair-
the
job
you're,
doing
chairing
the
committee,
but
in
the
meantime
I'm
gonna
wait
before
I
vote.
R
Along
with
her
cousin
who
stayed
with
me
for
a
while,
they
did
wicked
right,
no
good
deed
goes
unpunished
right.
This
is
a
good
d
that
you're
trying
to
do,
and
we
want
to
support
you.
We
know
that
in
some
ways
to
see
these
processes
are
new
to
you,
council,
you
have
an
older
council
who's
used
to
doing
things
in
a
very
set
way,
and
so
that's
why
you're
hearing
a
little
bit
of
our
concern?
R
R
It's
not
that's
an
operating
expense
that
two
months
lease
by
definition,
cannot
be.
It
cannot
be
a
capital
expense,
it
can
only
be
an
operating
expense,
and
so
so,
even
though
what
we're
doing
is
right,
we
probably
need
to
think
through
the
language
of
it
and
the
processes
of
it.
Certainly
we
use
piggle
to
do
it.
I'm
not.
Obviously
we
can
use
paygo
to
do
to
do,
but
just
making
sure
that
vehicle
purchases
are
usually
a
capital
expense
for
us.
So
we
have
this.
No,
no.
R
What
I'm
saying
is
we
can
use
paygo
do
either
one
all
right
we
can
use.
I'm
not
saying
we
can
I'm
just
saying
that
this,
the
leasing
is
not
a
capital
expense.
It
is
an
operational
expense
right,
and
so
I
don't
I
haven't
looked
at
the
budget.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
capital
budget
side
or
the
operating
budget
side
or
which
one
we're
taking
the
money
from.
I'm
simply
saying
that
these
sort
of
things
are
what
we
talk
about,
I'm
not
I'm,
I'm
being
supportive,
not
being
critical,
but
these
are
the.
R
These
are
the
things
that
we'll
that
you're
going
to
hear
us
talk
about
and
kind
of
kind
of,
debate
and
saying
this
thing
has
to
be
in
the
right
place
for
us,
because
you
know
I
I
talk
about
my
marriage,
a
very
long,
long
time
right
and
I
I
have
to
put
certain
things
in
certain
places
right
if
I
don't
put
certain
things
in
certain
places,
my
household
will
not
be
happy
and
same
thing
sort
of
this
council
we're
looking
for
things
to
be
in
certain
boxes
and
so
we'll
help
you
and
I'm
going
to
be
supportive.
R
K
I
completely
understand
I
I
I
mean
yes,
I
didn't
mean
to
refinish
yeah.
I
could
completely
understand
you
know
as
as
councilman
krause,
and
I
have
discussed
numerous
times,
you
know,
council
is
first,
has
first
has,
first
and
foremost
the
fiduciary
responsibility
to
the
city.
I
know
you
all
take
that
responsibility
very
seriously.
A
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
again
like
I
did
before.
We
have
drivers
with
no
vehicles,
and
so
that
is
what
is
the
emergency
and
the
urgency
here
and
that
the
vehicles
are
in
pennsylvania
and
whereas
the
13
million
dollars
of
vehicles
we
ordered
last
year,
most
of
the
snow
removal
vehicles.
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
they
haven't
even
be.
They
haven't
even
been
built.
Q
Okay,
so
we're
not
the
only
people
experiencing
supply
chain
issues
and
a
variety
of
fronts,
but
we
have
vehicles
in
pennsylvania
that
are
on
a
co-stars
contract,
and
if
we
hurry
up
and
find
the
appropriate
funds,
we
can
get
them
and
get
them
to
pittsburgh
and
and
get
our
drivers
who
are
sitting
there
without
vehicles
into
these
vehicles.
So
otherwise,
I
would
not
have
said
yes
to
the
200
000
coming
from
my
heart
fund,
and
I
wouldn't
also,
I
would
have
put
up
a
bigger
fight,
but
these
funds
are
paygo
funds.
Q
Q
So
I'm
completely
comfortable
approving
this
as
written
to
go
from
take
paygo
funds
from
the
capital
budget
and
put
them
into
the
equipment
leasing
authority,
but
if
we'd
like
before
tuesday,
to
figure
out
putting
them
back
into
the
operating
budget
and
then
putting
from
the
operating
budget
into
the
equipment
leasing
according
to
figure
that
out
and
I'd
be
happy
to
participate
in
those
conversations.
But
it
makes
no
difference
to
me
either
way.
I'm
supportive
and
I
and
I'm
grateful
well,
it's
just
an
option
on
the
table.
Thank
you.
L
Q
T
A
M
Thank
you
first,
director,
I
want
to
know,
is
councilwoman
gross
charging
interest.
M
Originally,
initially
we
were
looking
at
private
contractors.
I
that
was
my
call.
You
know
I
like
much
better
the
way
this
administration
framed
this.
First
of
all
the
trucks
that
we're
purchasing,
we
need
for
public
works
and
to
answer
councilman
crouse's
question
that
these
trucks
are
going
to
be
on
the
road
we
hope
for
the
next
10
years.
So
this
is
not
throwing
money
out
the
window,
a
small
portion
of
that
those
funds
are
being
used
for
the
leases,
so
we
can
have
immediate
relief.
M
So
I
don't
want
people
thinking
that
you
know
we're
going
out
and
just
spending
a
bunch
of
money
to
try
to
get
this
snow
cleared
this
year.
These
are
vehicles
we've
been.
We
desperately
need
for
all
aspects
of
public
works,
not
just
snow
removal.
So
so
I
wanted
to
be
clear
on
that
councilman
krauss.
You
know
I
want
to
thank
you
for
referring
me
to
the
you
know,
ela.
M
I
hope
you
don't
regret
it
now
that
we're
back.
You
know
in
my
in
my
first
day-
or
I
guess
I'm
not
confirmed
yet,
but
but
I
I
know
where
I'm
so
sorry,
so
I
hope
you're,
okay
with
it
and
understand
you
know-
and
I
want
to
thank
you,
madam
president,
for
you
know
making
the
appointment
brandon
I
want
to
thank
you.
You
know,
I
know
you
were
you
know,
given
the
task
as
to
where
are
we
going
to
find
these
vehicles?
M
Where
are
we
going
to,
you
know,
purchase
them
at
and
how
we're
going
to
do
it?
You
know,
and
when
you
look
back
as
to
these
fully
equipped
25
3500
vehicles,
you
know
with
the
plow,
with
with
the
salt
spreader
on
the
back
of
it.
M
I
think
it
comes
out
to
around
65
000,
a
piece
which
is
a
really
good
price,
so
you
know
whether
it
was
lowest
bid
or
you
shopped
around
I'm
thrilled
that
you
found
it,
and
you
know
it
was
a
task
that
was
thrown
at
you
in
an
I
feel,
an
emergency
situation.
So
I'm
glad
you
came
up
with
the
you
know
the
idea
to
shop
around
and
get
these
vehicles
on
the
street.
M
Brandon,
you
don't
have
to
answer
that,
I'm
not
even
I
mean
we,
we,
you
can
answer
that,
but
I'm
just
saying
you
know
the
tractor.
I
have
many
many
concerns
like
councilman.
Wilson
goes
on
about
to
the
tracker:
okay,
whether
it's
trucks
that
are
backing
up
hills
of
five
miles
an
hour
not
showing
up
on
my
tracker,
but
you
know
the
bottom
line
is
what
people
will
see
are
vehicles
and
the
roads
plowed
and
that's
better
than
any
tractor,
but
take
the
time
brandon.
If
you
want
to
answer
that,
please.
O
M
Okay,
great
now
these
lease
vehicles
we're
going
to
get
these
if
approved.
If
council
you
know
agrees,
these
lease
vehicles
will
be
on
the
street
first,
you
know
so
we'll
have
six
vehicles,
we'll
split
them
up
throughout
the
districts,
and
I
want
to
be
clear:
it's
not
just
this
fourth
district.
That
has
has
this
issue.
You
know
many
calls
from
many
people
coming
in
to
many
other
members
about
the
roads
not
being
plowed,
so
they
will
be
evenly
distributed,
they're,
not
all
coming
to
the
fourth
district.
M
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
you
know
again
these
leases.
We
can
have
them
on
the
street.
You
know
if
everything
goes
well
and
we
approve,
I
would
say,
by
the
end
of
next
week,
the
newer
vehicles,
as
director
pointed
out,
they
will
be
coming
in.
M
You
know
periodically
we'll
have
to
equip
them
we'll
have
to
rig
them,
but
you
know
eventually
it's
all
well
needed
by
this
time
next
year,
with
the
addition
of
my
public
works
division
in
these
new
vehicles,
plus
the
17
that
we're
waiting
on-
and
I
hope
they
come
in
by
next
winter-
and
I
and
talking
to
director
hornstein.
He
has
some
concerns
about
that
and
being
that
we
are
manu
having
these
manufactured
brings
it
my
concern
as
well
so
at
least
we're
getting
six
now
and
we're
looking
into
a
pilot
program
to
lease
some.
M
But
can
you
speak
to?
Are
these
new
vehicles?
We
rest
assured.
These
will
be
next
year,
because
my
first
instinct
was,
let's
call
chevy
and
tell
them.
We
needed
these
vehicles
yesterday,
but
obviously
supply
chain
issues
and
things
like
that
hindered
it.
But
can
you
speak
to
we
have
these
vehicles
by
next
winter.
O
We
surely
hope
that
we'll
have
them
by
next
winter
and
we're
we're
working
really
closely
with
the
dealer.
We
ordered
them
through,
as
well
as
our
ford
representative,
who
covers
the
northern
region,
to
make
sure
that
they
get
on
the
build
list,
and
we
do
expect
that
they
will
be
here
by
by
next
winter.
Okay,.
M
I
I
do
want
to
say
I
I
please
I'm
asking
you
know
this
is
an
emergency
situation
for
me
not
not
just
for
me
because
of
the
hills
and
somebody's
going
to
go
down
a
hill.
M
Well,
I
mean
for
my
district,
it's
an
emergency
situation.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
all
pittsburgh
as
do.
Is
it
an
emergency
or
not,
but
for
my
district
I
I
believe
it
is
almost
a
crisis
situation,
so
couldn't
be
more
pleased
with
the
efforts
that
you
and
brandon
and
the
administration
put
into
securing
the
funding
and
looking
for
the
funding,
I
highly
encourage
our
council
to
pass
this,
so
we
can
get
this
moving.
We
won't
have
it
for
this
snowstorm,
but
maybe
for
the
next
one.
That's.
K
Councilman
and
brandon
explain
this
in
further
detail,
but
just
for
the
sake
of
clarity,
the
the
that
procurement
issue,
the
resolution,
the
way
in
which
we
are
addressing,
that
is
by
utilizing
the
the
purchasing
consortiums
co-stars
and
omnia
respectively,
that
is
our
membership
in
those
consortiums-
allows
us
to
use
the
basically
the
bidding
process
or
the
the
procurement
process
that
they
front
load
to
then
purchase
off
of
an
inventory,
that's
pre-cleared,
so
so
so
those
procurement
procedural
concerns
are
addressed
through
our
utilization
of
those
purchasing
consortiums
in
this
case.
I
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I'm
going
to
be
supportive,
like
I
said
before.
You
know,
because
I'm
interested
in
solving
this
problem,
but
I
do
want
to
vote,
but
I
just
want
to
mention
this
because
I
think
it's
important
a
couple
things.
One
is
the
the
time
frame
of
two
months.
K
N
K
I
I
I
K
If,
if
I
may,
the
we,
the
the
gps
units,
which
will
display
the
routes,
will
will
be
perfectly
functional
once
the
new
routes
are
loaded
into
them.
It's
a
question
of
digitizing,
some
of
that
information,
optimizing
it
and
then
play
you
placing
it
into
the
on
onto
the
the
gps.
So
it's
not
the
case
that
we're
starting
over
from
scratch
there.
K
It's
just
changing
the
data
that
they
will
be
displaying
to
the
drivers,
so
just
to
so
just
to
maybe
assuage
part
of
your
concern,
we're
not
going
to
have
to
purchase
a
new,
the
the
hardware
or
even
the
underlying
technology.
It's
just
changing.
What's
displayed,
I
I
don't
know
because
it
obviously
predated
me,
the
extent
to
which
there
was
an
expenditure
on
the
optimization
process
that
produced
the
routes
that
that
weren't
working.
You
know
that
that
predated
this
administration
predated
me
zombie
director
predated
director
hornstein
as
acting
dpw
director.
K
So
so
I
apologize.
I
don't
know
the
expenditure
that
went
into
that
and,
to
the
extent
that
we're
doing
that
process
again,
there's
probably
some
some
small
expense
related
to
that,
but
but
the
bulk
of
the
technology
that
you're
referring
to
is
is
still
viable
and
will
still
be
utilized
once
we
load
new
routes
into
the
system.
Okay,.
I
Yeah,
do
you
see
that
happening
this
year
or
next
year.
K
I
am
confident
that
it
will
be
in
place
for
next
snow
season,
whether
it
is
in
place
before
the
end
of
the
snow
season
in
some
ways
depends
on
us
getting
a
break
in
the
weather,
because,
obviously
our
the
the
attention
of
dpw
when
there
are
snowstorms
on
the
horizon
is
always
to
prepare
for
them.
And
then
that
means
that
some
longer
term
projects
like
that
have
to
be
prioritized
as
we
get
ready
for
the
the
coming
storm.
I
Okay
yeah-
I
just
want
to
talk
about
this
because
without
doing
that,
full
analysis,
like
I
understand
some
people
in
you
know
like
councilman
gross-
is
you
know
willing
to
you,
know
think
down
the
road
of
when
that
project
will
be
refunded,
but
still
it's
still
money
that
we're
moving
and
another
project
won't
happen.
Because
of
that.
I
A
O
N
O
I
have
to
look
into
the
contract
a
little
more,
but
I
don't
believe
that
they
offer
the
option
to
purchase
their
platform
is
to
provide
equipment
on
a
on
a
rental
basis,
and
they
can
do
you
know
short
time
frames.
Long-Term.
A
Yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
then
my
second
question-
and
this
is
more
so
for
the
public's
edification.
Historically,
the
way
we've
plowed
streets
is
your
primary
streets
during
the
actual
event
of
the
snowstorm.
A
K
Generally
speaking,
yes,
there
are
there's
more
complexity
to
that
for,
for
a
few
reasons,
so
one
is
that
we
have
different
size
vehicles
that
are
optimal
for
servicing
different
size
streets.
We
have,
you
know
a
lot
of
they
in
dpw.
They
call
them
hogs.
Those
are
pickup
sized
trucks,
the
things
that
that
a
you
know
a
non-cdl
driver
might
might
drive.
K
The
drivers
in
our
case
are
cdl
drivers,
but
I'm
saying
a
a
a
member
of
the
public
could
purchase
a
truck
of
this
size
with
a
normal
license
is
my
point
there.
Those
those
vehicles
are
best.
K
The
reason
that
we
have
them
in
our
inventory
is
so
that
they
can
service
smaller
streets
and
so
as
the
vehicles
are
deployed,
particularly
in
treacherous
areas.
Steeply
sloped
places
with
with
narrow
streets,
I'm
thinking
of
the
south
side
slopes,
for
is
only
one
example.
K
Some
of
those
vehicles
will
be
deployed
to
smaller
streets
even
at
the
beginning
of
the
snow
event,
because
that's
what
they're
designed
to
service
so
there's
a
bit
of
nuance
to
that
point,
but
the
primary
the
primary
focus
is
certainly
on
keeping
primary
roads
and
emergency
routes
open.
So
we
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
vehicles
to
cover
that
first
and
then,
once
that's
done,
some
of
the
smaller
vehicles
may
be
assigned
to
secondary
and
tertiary
streets
as
warranted
by
the
snow
conditions.
K
To
your
your
point
about
timing
again,
yes,
it
is
our
objective
to
be
consistently
servicing
the
primary
roadways
during
the
snow
event
to
keep
for
public
safety
reasons
to
then
once
the
snow
event
ends
begin
moving
into
the
the
secondary
and
then
the
tertiary
streets
and
to
have
them
cleared.
You
know
I
I
would
say,
given
the
age
and
condition
of
the
fleet
and
the
number
of
vehicles
in
the
fleet,
really
a
more
realistic
expectation.
Now
is
36
hours
under
optimal
conditions.
K
That's
not
our
the
benchmark
we
would
like
to
be
at,
but
I
I
would
just
say
for
for
for
the
sake
of
candor,
that
that's
a
more
reasonable
expectation
until
we
are
able
to
make
some
significant
investments
in
the
fleet.
Thank.
A
You
that's
helpful
councilman
cross.
Did
you
yeah.
L
I'm
not
sure
if
the
question
is
more
for
brandon,
I
think
it
is,
it
might
be
for
a
director.
Am
I
misinformed
to
be
acting
on
the
assumption
that
these
are
used
vehicles?
L
Other
vehicles
I
apologize
vehicles
are
new,
are
brand
new.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
be
acting
on
accurate
information,
and-
and
so
I
appreciate-
because
I
was
going
to
ask
you
if
the
the
the
new
vehicles
were
were
used,
what
the
age
of
the
vehicle
mileage
and
those
kinds
of
things
might
be
on
the
vehicle
and
because,
because
mcaulico
believes,
these
will
live
in
existence
for
10
years,
I'm
not
100
sure
that
they
will
but
tell
me
from
your
experience
lifespan.
What?
L
O
On
using
it
could
be
lower,
but
we
expect
normally
from
our
dpw
pickup
truck
similar
to
these
eight
to
ten
years
of
useful
life.
Good.
L
Well,
that
that
raises
my
comfort
level
in
terms
of
the
purchase
of
of
the
vehicles
director
pollock,
I
still
am
struggling
with
using
well,
let
me
go
back
councilwoman
gross.
I
appreciate
the
offer
to
to
tidy
up
accounts.
I
I
really
don't
think
that's
necessary,
my
my,
but
I
appreciate
you
offering
it
my
my
goal
here
is
to
not
begin
to
open
the
door
to
these
kinds
of
purchases
further
down
the
road
I
want,
because
we
have
such
a
rich
tradition.
L
I
think
it's
beyond
tradition.
I
think
we're
actually
obligated
legislatively
to
make
investments
that
are
are
long-standing
investments
when
we
use
capital
dollars,
which
is
why
I,
I
asked
brandon
about
the
age
of
the
vehicles
and
and
say
and
hearing
his
professionalism,
say
to
me
that
we
can
get
seven
to
ten
out
here.
My
comfort
level
is
significantly
elevated
in
the
purchase,
but
director.
L
I
would
hope
that
I,
in
a
friendly
way,
I
could
challenge
you
to
see
if,
by
tuesday
we
could
find
an
alternate
source
from
operating
for
the
lease
vehicles,
and
I
know
that
might
be
looking
like
I'm
splitting
hairs,
but
I
would
really
really
really
like
us
to
make
clear
distinction
of
whether
they're
pay
go
or
or
bond
that
short
term
acquisition
or
usage
is
an
operating
expense
and
not
a
capital
expense,
even
though
it
might
be.
I
might
be
a
little
tight
on
that.
L
I
would
appreciate
if
we
could
put
a
little
bit
of
effort
into
finding
the
59
000
out
of
operating
and
I'd
appreciate
your
assistance
on
that,
if
you'd
be
willing
to
explore
that
absolutely
I
appreciate
it.
Thanks
always
for
your
professionalism
director,
I
will
be
supportive
today,
but
I
would
like
to
our
director
will
talk
further
about
perhaps
a
different
funding
source
for
the
rental
property
or
the
rental
vehicles.
Thank
you
thanks
everybody
for
allowing
me
this
time.
L
Thank
you
any
oh
and
one
more
thing.
If
I
may,
mr
chair
councilman
coghill,
I
think
you'll
do
wonders
for
the
equipment
leasing
authority.
I
would
not
have
asked
our
president
or
lobbying
our
president
for
you
to
take
that
position.
I
think
you
will
be
you'll
be
very
good.
I
do
I'm
going
to
be
completely
honest.
Do
worry
you,
you
know
you
you
like
to.
You
know,
bulldoze
no
pun
intended.
L
You
know,
and
I
just
perhaps
maybe
I
take
a
more
cautioned
approach,
but
you
and
I
we
work
together
very
well
and
I'm
sure,
as
you
assume,
your
position
on
the
equipment,
leasing,
authority
board
you
and
I
can
work
together
collectively
and-
and
hopefully
I
can
share
my
what
we
call
experience,
strength
and
hope
with
you
in
your
new
position.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
councilman
krauss,
and
your
confidence
means
everything
to
me
in
that.
So
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
L
Director
of
pollock,
I
I'm
reading
some
weather
accounts
of
what
is
to
be
coming
this
weekend.
You
know
you
guys,
I
mean
you
have
really
been
tried
by
fire
in
terms
of
weather
events
this
this
month
so
far
now
going
into
february,
and
they
look
much
more
severe
than
what
I
was
reading
even
a
few
hours
ago,
and
a
lot
of
it
is
around
ice
accumulation
of
ice
and
that
just
very
very
shortly
north
of
us
they
are
expecting
even
as
high
as
12
inches
of
snow.
L
K
Yeah
absolutely
councilman,
I
I
will
say
that
you
are
correct
in
your
reading
of
the
forecast
and
and
the
the
administration
and
dpw
are,
you
know,
going
to
be
sharing
additional
information
about
the
with
the
public
later
today
as
well.
We
are
looking
at
freezing
rain,
then
transitioning
into
snow,
on
top
of
that
which,
which
creates
treacherous
conditions,
and
unfortunately
the
timing
couldn't
be
worse
in
terms
of
it
falling
in
the
very
early
morning.
K
So
we
certainly
would
encourage
everyone
to
exercise
a
great
deal
of
caution
while
driving
later
this
week
until
we're
able
to
to
service
the
streets,
which
will
be
a
unique
challenge
for
our
very
hard
working
and
very
dedicated
epw
crews.
This
late
this
week
and
into
the
weekend.
A
J
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
I'm
going
to
vote
in
favor
because
I
received
a
message
saying:
yes,
that
the
equipment
leasing
authority
has
the
opportunity
to
purchase
equipment.
I'm
going
to
read
it
exactly
word
for
word
oftentimes
with
fluctuating
costs.
They
can
get
vehicles
a
little
under
budget.
Sometimes
they
cost
more
so
towards
the
end
of
the
year.
J
If,
if
we
have
enough
to
purchase
another
vehicle
or
vehicles
with
those
savings,
we
will
and
that
doesn't
come
back
to
council
for
approval,
but
that
also
talks
about
what
councilman
gross
talks
about
all
the
time
contracts
coming
back
to
us.
So
I
think
that
that's
something
I'll
work
with
you
on
to
make
sure
that
things
do
come
back
to
us
so,
but
today
I'll
be
able
to
vote
in
the
in
the
affirmative.
J
Knowing
that
I
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
with
this
so
and
I
just
want
to
add
please
if
we're
expecting
the
snow
event,
please
make
sure
that
we
use
some
enforcement
for
the
sidewalks,
because
we
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
the
sidewalks
not
being
enforced.
We
don't
do
anything
to
we
don't
do
our
own
sidewalks.
We
don't
force
other
people
to
do
the
sidewalks,
so
I
think
the
last
time
you
did
do
them.
You
had
some
people
doing
the
sidewalks.
I
hope
that
you
do
that
again.
K
Do
we
do
mobilize
the
parks
and
construction
crews
within
dpw
to
clear,
sidewalks
and
steps?
Many
of
those
individuals?
Don't
don't
have
the
right
kind
of
license
to
drive
a
snow
plow,
but
but
they
are
available
to
to
do
other
kind
of
work,
and
so
yes,
we
what
the
transportation
division
well
excuse
me.
All
of
those
folks
are
mobilized
as
available
and
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
to
clear
the
city's
own
sidewalks
and
steps
and
pathways.
I
hear
your
point
about
enforcement
of
homeowner
responsibility
for
for
sidewalks.
K
I
will
just
note
again
for
the
record
and
for
the
public
that
it
is
a
city
code
requirement
that
your
the
sidewalk
in
front
of
your
home
is
cleared
within
24
hours
at
the
end
of
the
snow
event,
24.
J
Within
24
hours,
but
if
you,
if
you're
an
able
body,
please
be
courteous
and
think
of
other
people
get
out
and
clean
it,
and
if
you
have
a
neighbor
who
can't
please,
you
know,
try
to
help
them
too.
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
all
your
work
and
thank
you
to
our
crews,
who
work
so
hard
24
hours
a
day
around
the
clock.
That's
it!
Thank
you.
A
L
Second,
second,.
A
N
H
J
So
wait.
This
is
okay,
the
wilkinsburg!
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
if
I
want
to
be
clear,
if
we
vote,
if
we
want
to
disapprove.
J
If
we
want
to
approve
your
vote
now,
so
if
you
of
the
of
the
consent,
if
you
were
to
consent,
I'm
sorry
to
the
annexation
of
wilkinsburg
pursuant
to
the
petition
presented
at
the
court
of
common
police,
I
just
want
to
be
clear
clear
that
we've
had
some
meetings
regarding
wilkinsburg
and
although
we've
been
able
to
work
through
some
concerns,
I
absolutely
am
not
supportive.
J
I
don't
anybody
think
that
this
is
the
way
that
they're
going
to
work
with
council
is
by
coming
to
us
forcefully
with
with
attorneys
with
a
court
order,
but
we
were
able
to
work
together.
Calling
a
meeting
of
everyone
coming
together
and
reverend
burgess
is
willing
to
work
with
the
county
exec
over
the
next
year
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
were
getting
information
and
having
a
clear
public
process
for
any
type
of
annexation,
whether
it's
with
wilkinsburg
or
anyone
else
in
the
future.
J
So
for
me,
I
still
you
need
a
lot
of
convincing
before
I
will
ever
vote.
Yes,
I
need
to
know
how
it's
going
to
affect
you
know
south
west
and
north
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
J
I
need
people
to
understand
and
start
investing
in
our
side
of
town
or
I
will
be
the
opposite
instead
of
being
supportive,
probably
the
opposite,
but
I
will,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
that
we're
giving
them
a
chance
to
start
showing
what
they're
going
to
do
on
our
side
of
town
and
how
it's
going
to
be
how
something
like
this
could
be
beneficial
or
not.
But
so
today
I
put
this
in
so
that
we
can
say
no.
J
A
M
So,
just
let
me
start
by
saying
had
this
been
a
week
ago,
I
would
have
been
motioning
to
prolong
our
vote
on
this.
I
felt
it
was
rushed.
Certainly
I
know
in
talking
to
all
the
council
members
even
april
5th,
that
deadline
is
probably
not
sufficient
enough
time
to
gather
the
information.
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
that's
the
will
of
the
council.
M
However,
I
thought
it
was
okay.
I
you
know
today
we
start
gathering
the
facts
about
it.
I'm
really
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
some.
You
know
not
setting
the
emotion
aside
about
the
whole
thing
and
actually
getting
some
facts
on
it.
It
might
not
be
the
marriage
that
some
of
us
were
looking
for,
but
I
think
it's
an
engagement
today,
so
I
am
not
going
to
fight
along
the
vote
on
tuesday.
M
I'm
fine
with
not
making
the
motion,
but
I
really
want
council
engaged
whether
starting
today
with
the
facts
and
figures,
whether
we
vote
this
through
on
tuesday
or
whether
we
voted
through
in
january
matters.
Not
to
me,
you
know
the
fact
is.
I
want
to
gather
the
facts.
I
myself
want
to
see
them
and
I
hope
we
can
learn
and
start
moving
down
the
path
where
this
makes
sense
ready.
So
that's
it
thanks.
I
I
A
I
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
I
don't
disagree
with
you
know
everything.
That's
happened
in
the
past
two
days
or
24
hours
or
whatever,
but
just
you
know
in
my
mind,
it
makes
sense
to
in
any
case,
even
if,
even
if
that
is
you
know,
we
could
you
know
just
do
it
postage
at
whatever
you
know.
J
And
we
asked
for
it
to
be
scheduled
before
this
vote
today,
so
I
want
to
be
very
clear:
it's
not
like
we
scheduled
the
vote
and
then
we
scheduled
we
scheduled.
We
scheduled
the
vote
and
then
asked
for
the
post
agenda
to
be
scheduled
before
the
vote,
but
this
is
when
they
wanted
to
have
it,
so
it
wasn't
as
if
we
didn't
attempt
to
do
do
have
them
have
the
post
agenda
in
advance.
But,
having
said
that,
it's
still
to
me
it's
the
message
we
want
to
send.
J
This
is
not
the
way
you're
going
to
work
with
city
council.
If
you
want
to
work
with
us,
you're
going
to
come
and
talk
with
us
and
be
respectful
and
we'll
nine
times
out
of
ten,
we
try
to
work
towards
a
solution,
but
we're
not
going
to
work
and
under
a
gun
like
this,
under
this
kind
of
pressure
right.
I
So,
if
we're
going
to
vote
for
this
I'll,
just
make
my
comment
about
the
vote
that
I'm
gonna
take.
So
you
know
this
doesn't
come
up
that
often
I
continue
to
reference
about
allegheny
city,
you
know
was
the
last
one
to
be
annexed,
but
that
one
was
different.
I
just
want
to
stay
for
the
public
that
one
was
different,
that
one
was
literally
the
total
vote
of
pittsburgh
and
also
allegheny
city.
I
You
know
that
was
a
different
process.
That
is
why
everyone
in
allegheny
city,
which
is
now
the
north
side,
probably
you
know-
has
a
little-
has
a
little
has
a
little
reminder
about
that
about
that
takeover.
So.
I
You
know
in
this
case
it
would
be
the
the
citizens,
the
the
voters,
the
citizens
of
wilkinsburg,
that
would
that
would
take
the
vote
solely
you
know
in
their
own
ballot,
and
I
was
interested
to
have
that
conversation
and
it
sounds
like
we
are
going
to
continue
the
conversation.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
conversation
with
the
people
that
were
very
much
even
said
that
you
were
totally
for,
but
you
know
much
more
in
favor,
so
I
was
on
the
end
of
I
want.
I
I
had
a
lot
of
questions
to
ask
and
to
really
get
the
understanding
of
how
this
benefits
the
city,
if,
if
they
would
vote
in
favor
of
it,
the
citizens
of
wilkinsburg,
how
would
benefit
wilkinsburg?
If
that
was
the
case,
you
know
because
we
would
have
to
accept
whatever
they
voted
for
so
in
light
of
other
decisions
that
I
made
and
and
me
having
an
internal
rule
for
myself,
that
I
wouldn't
abstain.
I
I
I'm
not.
You
know,
vote
with
my
other
colleagues,
in
terms
of
you
know
the
the
wishes
of
council
to
to
vote
yes
to
disapprove,
but
I
am
certainly
interested
in
shared
services.
Expanding
the
boundaries
of
pittsburgh-
and
you
know,
in
the
light
of
the
the
bridge,
the
horrific
you
know,
event
that
happened
to
the
fern
hole
of
a
bridge
and
everyone
that
was
affected.
I
I
I
I
So,
although
I
am
interested
to,
you
know,
expand
the
boundaries
of
pittsburgh.
I
just
want
to
make
that
known.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
o'connor,.
U
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
state
on
record.
Obviously
I
was
supportive
back
in
june
and
you
know
the
willingness
for
council
to
hear
more
details.
I
fully
understand
it.
I
understand
that
I
believe
this
is
a
good
thing
for
everybody,
but
down
the
road.
I
understand
we
need
some
more
time
and
from
what
I'm
hearing.
Hopefully
we
will
get
this
done
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
at
this
point
I
understand
my
colleagues
need
to
vote.
U
I
guess
yes,
whereas
I'm
going
to
vote
no
today,
just
because
looking
at
the
information-
and
I
I
would
assume
that
half
of
the
wilkinsburg
when
it
does
occur,
would
be
in
reverend
burgess's
district
and
I
would
have
a
portion
of
it
as
well.
So
you
know
looking
forward
to
that
when
it
does
occur,
but
just
thank
the
leadership
and
council
for
going
through
this
process
talking
to
everybody,
setting
up
meetings,
councilman
coghill
for
hosting
the
post
agenda
later
today,
but
I'll
be
voting.
U
No,
knowing
that
this
is
going
to
come
back
around
and
that
hopefully,
at
that
point
you
know,
council
will
be
more
comfortable
in
voting
for
this.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman.
A
L
L
Development
that
took
place
in
east
liberty,
it
gives
it
a
pathway
to
expand
into
wilkinsburg
anyone
out
there.
That
is
pretending
or
projecting
a
statement
that
this
is
somehow
humanitarian
in
nature,
and
we
are
here
to
help
and
assist
and
serve
the
disadvantaged.
People
of
wilkinsburg
is
peeing
on
your
leg
and
telling
you
it's
raining.
L
This
is
about
land
acquisition.
This
is
about
banks
that
will
come
into
enormous
sums
of
money.
Once
this
acquisition
or
merger
were
to
take
place,
the
we
can
look
forward,
perhaps
not
certainly
not
in
my
time
servicing
on
the
council
and
maybe
not
even
in
my
lifetime,
but
in
the
next
10
15
or
20
years.
L
I'm
gonna
argue
what
we
will
see
in
is
no
longer
wilkinsburg,
but
it
will
be
east
liberty,
2.0
and
while
I
applaud
a
lot
of
the
of
the
changes
that
took
place
in
east
liberty,
not
all
were
good
by
any
means
by
any
means,
and
I
truly
believe
that
we
had
learned
the
lesson
that
it
was
a
new
day.
L
Middle
income,
sustainable
development
that
served
the
the
residents
are
our
bread
and
butter
constituency
to
have
higher
quality
of
life
and
better
opportunity,
and
that
is
not
what
this
is
about,
and
I
don't
care
who's
preaching
that
it's
something
different.
It
isn't.
L
Land
brings
wealth
and
power
for
as
old
as
mankind
is,
and
that's
exactly
what
this
is
about
and
those
that
advocate
for
this.
I
strongly
believe.
L
I
believe
that
high-end
high-end
and
luxury
development
is
still
the
way
that
we're
supposed
to
be
going
here
in
pittsburgh,
and
I
adamantly
reject
it
and
I
adamantly
refuse
it
and
I
feel
an
obligation
to
protect
the
the
the
bread
and
butter
constituency
of
of
the
municipality
or
the
borough
of
wilkinsburg
and
to
respect
their
duly
elected
body
to
reject
this
and
to
reject
the
notion
that
a
development
corporation
is
going
to
act
in
the
best
interest
of
existing
residents
of
wilkinsburg.
L
So
I
will
vote
yes
to
deny
annexation
today.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
I'm
sorry,
madam
president,
may
I
say
one
other
thing.
I
apologize
that
by
agreeing
to
this
we
will.
We
will
pledge
our
our
commitment
to
sucking
the
very
life
out
of
already
existing
underserved
neighborhoods
in
the
city
and
many
of
them
existing
southwest
of
the
river
and
I'm
sure,
council.
L
President
smith
is
going
to
take
this
in
a
in
a
much
bigger
direction
than
I
will,
but,
but
I
when,
when
I
look
at
the
need
for
for
hilltop
neighborhoods
that
I
represent
that
have
been
historically
disinvested
in
for
generations
to
go
up
there
and
say
that,
yes,
you
know
what
I
voted
to
take
resources
away
from
you.
I
would
hide
my
head
in
shame.
L
I
would
tell
them
they
should
vote
me
out
if
I
were,
if
I
were
to
be
complicit
in
in
the
in
the
in
the
the
organized
removal
of
of
resources
that
they
not
just
desperately
need,
but
damn
it
they
deserve.
Thank
you,
madam
president,.
J
Thank
you
so
much
councilman.
I
I
I
just
want
to
say
I
agree
with
almost
everything
you
said,
except
for
I
do
want
to
see.
Wealth
and
development
happen
across
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
I
also
want
to
see
it
benefiting
the
people
that
need
it
to
the
most
who
have
been
forgotten
in
many
of
the
developments.
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us,
no
matter
what
process
and
what
steps
we
take
moving
forward
this
for
this
council
and
for
others,
any
agreements
anything
that
comes
to
play.
J
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
one
with
a
very
public
community
process.
We
have
to
work
with
both
school
districts
and
we
have
to
work
with
the
elected
bodies
on
both
both
sides
and
that's
the
next
piece
of
legislation
that
I
have
that
we
have,
but
I
want
to
say
that
I
think
it
also
has
to
include
some
affordable
housing
development,
and
I-
and
you
know
we
talk
about
having
the
city
county,
mergers
and
things
that
benefit.
You
know
the
region.
J
It
always
seems
like
we're
talking
about
what's
benefiting
somebody
else,
but
we're
not
talking
a
lot
about.
What's
benefiting
pittsburgh,
what
is
coming
to
pittsburgh
that
we're
going
to
get
other
than
residents?
What
are
we
getting
in
terms
of
services
like
we
need
help
with
snow
removal?
I
don't
see
anybody
coming
in
with
their
plows
clearing
our
roads.
I
don't
see
the
county
doing
anything
more
than
the
roads
that
are
county
roads.
I
think
those
are
conversations
we
have
to
have.
J
How
are
you
also
benefiting
the
city
in
addition
to
residents
and
population
is
great,
but
I
don't
want
to
push
people
out
of
their
neighborhood
so
that
we
get
a
number
somewhere.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
everything
we
can
to
not
repeat
the
mistakes
of
the
hill
district,
the
mistakes
of
of
east
liberty
and
in
other
neighborhoods
and
in
fairy
wood
in
my
district,
I've
seen
it
happen
time
and
time
again
where
we're
pushing
people
out
of
their
neighborhoods,
and
yet
we
always
say
every
time.
J
J
I
mean
significantly
and
seriously
without
coming
up
with
excuses
as
to
why
they
can
work
on
the
job
site
and
why
we
had
to
go
elsewhere
and
let's
make
sure
that
we're
working
with
our
unions
and
everybody
as
as
partners
in
this
in
this
whole
thing
moving
forward.
But
I
will
say:
I'm
not
opposed
to
considering
any
merger
and
annexations,
but
I
am
also
going
to
ask
every
time
what
is
in
it
for
north,
south
and
west,
especially
when
we
are
pushing
more
and
more
people.
J
If
you
look
at
a
map
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
the
housing,
that's
that's
here.
If
you
look
in
the
east
end,
almost
all
of
it
is
either
upscale
or
low
scale
I
mean
or
afford
it-
well,
not
even
affordable
anymore,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
middle
class
and
it's
the
middle
class.
That's
paying
the
taxes
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
it's
the
middle
class
and
almost
all
of
them
are
southwest
of
the
river.
It's
almost.
The
entire
map
is
middle
class.
J
You
can't
keep
expan
expanding
the
east
end
and
expect
to
stabilize
our
city
you're,
actually
doing
the
quite
quite
the
opposite.
So
with
that
said,
as
long
as
we're
talking
about
the
any
type
of
this
process,
you
better
bring
us
to
the
table
and
you
better
have
a
plan
for
what
you're
going
to
do
for
southwest
pittsburgh,
where
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
blow
it
up
every
time.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
also
will
be
voting
I
to
disapprove,
as
I've
said
before,
in
the
in
the
discussions
on
this
issue
and
at
the
post
agenda.
Q
I've
only
heard
so
far
emotional
testimony
from
both
sides-
and
this
is
not-
I
urged
the
proponents
at
the
development
corporation
to
not
submit
this
appeal
to
the
courts,
because
90
days
is
not
enough
time,
and
that
is
all
we
have
now,
because
they
did
move
forward
and
submit
their
petition
to
the
common
police
court
and
the
court
did
issue
his
order
to
city
council.
We
don't
know
what
happens
with
the
wilkinsburg
penn
joint
municipal
water
authority.
There's
we
have
nothing.
We
have
no
information.
People,
pittsburgh
have
no
information.
Q
The
people
of
wilkinsburg
have
no
information
we've
yet
to
see.
I
think
we're
just
starting
to
see
numbers
of
analysis
about
the
school
district.
We
don't
know
about
bond
debt,
we
don't
know
about
pension
debt.
We
don't
know
significantly,
I
think,
to
mr
krause's
point
and
that
I
have
also
mentioned
before.
Q
We
really,
I
think,
need
to
see
an
analysis
of
real
estate
holdings
in
wilkinsburg
to
really
suss
out.
Who
is
who
will
be
benefiting
and
who
will
be
paying
in
this
in
this
specific
type
of
annexation?
Right?
I
do
believe
there
are
significant
real
estate
interests
that
probably
are
behind
this
initiative,
and
they
we
should
reveal
them.
Q
We
should
research
and
find
out
who
they
are
and
so
that
we
can
really
see
who
the
actors
are
in
this
situation
and
in
so
doing,
I
think
it
will
help
inform
both
this
body
and
the
wilkinsburg
council.
Q
What
steps
need
to
be
put
into
place
before
either
annexation
or
merger
to
protect
their
citizens,
their
vulnerable
citizens
to
reinvest
in
the
actual
people
of
wilkinsburg
and
not
just
have
a
land
grab
and
possible
wealth
grab,
which
is
what
it's
looking
like
now,
and
so
I
will
absolutely
vehemently
be
voting
yes
to
disapprove
today.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
before
going
to
second
round
oh
councilman,
strasberger.
P
I
echo
a
lot
of
what
I've
heard
today
about
my
concerns
about
the
process,
thus
far,
but
really
what
I
was
going
to
focus
on
was
my
concerns
that
are
similar
to
councilman
wilson's,
that
generally,
as
a
rule,
I
don't
like
to
move
on
a
bill
until
we've
had
the
post
agenda
like
to
do
our
research
first,
but
given
the
agreement
and
the
opportunity
that
everyone
has
had
to
sort
of
reach
an
agreement
for
a
year-long
investigation
investigation
is
not
the
right
word
a
year-long
fact-finding
task
force,
then
I
am
more
comfortable
with
moving
ahead
with
a
a
preliminary
vote
today
for
before
the
post
agenda
this
afternoon,
with
the
post
agenda
being
the
first
of
what
I
expect
to
be
many.
P
Pursuits
so
I'm
comfortable
with
voting
I
today
in
favor
of
disapproving
proposal
and
and
finding
a
lot
more
information
over
the
next
year.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
before
going
to
second
round
with
councilman
coghill,
councilman
burgess
I'll
be
very.
R
Very
brief,
I'll
talk
a
lot
more
in
a
minute
at
a
press
conference.
R
Basically-
and
I
want
to
thank
our
president,
who
has
led-
I
think
this
process
in
a
very,
very
not
only
professional
but
a
very
insightful
way,
and
so
today
we
are
going
to
do
two
two
different
things.
One
we're
going
to
say
that
this
process,
which
we
did
not
initiate
and
were
not
a
participant
in,
was
not
the
way
to
to
interact
with
council.
R
Secondly,
we're
going
to
initiate
a
process,
that's
council-led,
which
is
our
responsibility
to
find
facts
and
to
lay
all
the
issues
on
the
table
to
develop,
southwest
and-
and
I
have
I
have
said
privately
I'll-
say
it
now-
that
one
of
the
things
that
has
to
be
primary
is
anti-gentrification
anti-displacement
activity
and
there
needs
to
be
an
understanding,
and
I
have
four
kids
right
and
each
of
the
kids
took
more
expenses
than
the
household
right.
R
It
was
different
having
one
kid
than
having
two
kids
different
than
having
three
kids
and
my
daughter
came
because
my
daughter,
my
wife,
gave
her
everything.
It
was
different,
and
so,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
take
care
of
four
children
versus
one,
and
so
I
I'm
going
to
say
that
I
intend,
after
this
process,
having
looked
at
most
of
plenary
information
unless
they're
bombshells,
which
I
do
not
expect
you
know
where-
and
I
was
very
I've-
been
very
persuaded,
and
you
know
by
councilman
gross's
comments.
R
R
I
think
it
is
in
the
best
interest
of
both
municipalities.
We
are
already
in
many
ways.
Next
wilkinsburg
we've
already
began
that
process.
We
fight
their
fires,
we
pick
up
their
garbage
and
their
children
go
to
our
secondary
and
high
schools
and
they
need
we.
We
can
use
their
numbers
and
we
can
use
they
can
they
can
use
our
services
and
our
economic
muscle.
R
So
it
is
my
intent
to
to
say
no
now,
but
it's
not
no,
it's
not
yet
and
then
a
year
from
now,
exactly
a
year
a
year
from
now,
I
intend
to
vote
yes
and
have
said
that
privately
and
soon
publicly
to
the
excavation
process,
and
so
that's
sort
of
my
position
and
I'll
talk
more
about
that.
But
I
have
also
committed
to
the
president
that
we
will
use
every
influence
we
have
to
make
things
jump
southwest
of
the
rivers.
R
R
Minus
the
centrifuge,
it
also
can
be
used
and
the
same
strategies
can
be
used
southwest
of
the
river,
and
we
will
do
everything
we
can
to
help
the
president
do
that.
So
I
would
be
voting
yes
in
favor
of
disapproval,
but
with
the
intention
of
annexing
a
voting.
Yes
12
months
from
now.
A
Thank
you
for
my
two
cents,
one.
I
also
agree
with
everything
councilman
gross
laid
out
in
terms
of
what
we
need
to
do
over
the
next
year
to
determine
whether
or
not
this
makes
sense.
I
also
found
councilman
krause's
argument
very,
very
interesting
because
I
I
don't
think
he's
wrong,
but
I
don't
think
it
means
that
two
things
two
opposing
things
can
also
be
true
right,
so
I
don't
think
he's
wrong
and
comes
from
woman
gross.
You
said
it
as
well.
A
I
don't
think
you
either
are
wrong
that
there
are
absolutely
developmental
interests
involved
here.
Right,
don't
disagree
with
that
at
all,
but
it
also
doesn't
mean
that
if
you
said
to
a
majority
of
american
neighborhood
that
by
doing
this,
I
will
immediately
increase
the
value
in
your
home,
while
lowering
your
taxes
that
the
vast
majority
of
them
would
not
sign
up
for
that
deal
right.
A
It
also
doesn't
mean
that
in
some
form
or
fashion,
this
could
not
potentially
be
good
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
that
by
gaining
additional
population
by
gaining
additional
dollars
releases
or
doesn't
necessarily
put
it
jeopardy,
current
federal
dollars
that
are
potentially
in
jeopardy.
If
we
continue
to
lose
population
right,
so
there
are
potential
win-wins
here,
while
also
acknowledging
that
there's
some
private
interests
who
gain
the
banks
in
particular,
who
absolutely
stand
to
gain
above
and
beyond.
Even
the
smaller
benefits
for
the
people
right.
So
I
just
think
to
everyone's
point.
A
We
need
to
take
a
year
to
try
to
figure
out
what
that
looks
like
to
councilman
wilson's
point.
We
have
to
take
a
year
to
figure
out
if
we're
currently
putting
10
million
dollars
into
a
housing
opportunity
fund
to
deal
with
the
housing
that
councilman,
krauss
and
councilman
wilson
spoke
of.
What
does
that
now
mean
to
now
add
two
more
square
miles
with
a
real
estate
portfolio
that
could
absolutely
suck
up
that
10
million
dollars
right?
It's
like
what!
So?
What
does
that?
A
All
that
sort
of
look
like
for
us,
as
as
we
move
forward,
is
sort
of
the
work
that
we
have
to
do
over
the
course
of
the
next
year
to
determine
whether
or
not
this
does
or
does
not
make
sense
for
us
I'll
leave
I'll
leave
my
opinion
to
decide
whether
or
not
it
does,
but
we
have
to
do
that
work
second
round.
Councilman
coghill.
M
Thank
you
just
a
little
fun
fact
for
you,
neighborhood,
I
grew
up
in
beechview
was.
M
M
I
applaud
even
when
it's
at
my
expense,
a
good
laugh,
okay
so,
but
I
did
want
to
comment
on
just
a
couple
things
that
were
brought
up
number
one
when
it
comes
down
to
is
this
going
to
be
the
next
bakery
square?
You
know
what
I
wouldn't
vote
for
this
and
I
want
to
find
out
the
facts
as
well.
When
we
talk
about
affordable
housing-
and
I
know
councilwoman
gross,
you
know
this
is
her
avenue.
M
I
would
say
you
put
her
along
with
councilman
burgess
together,
because
there's
60
plus
percent
of
renters
in
wilkinsburg,
it's
absolutely
vital
that
we
keep
the
people
and
it's
not
the
it's,
not
the
land,
it's
not
the
development.
For
me,
it's
the
people.
You
know
I
look
at
it
like
this.
It's
a
necessity
for
wilkinsburg
in
the
position
they're
in,
but
it's
also
an
opportunity
for
pittsburgh,
so
you
know,
and
and
a
lot
more
will
come
out
later,
but
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
we're
starting
a
new
today.
M
I
fully
expect
this
council
to
vote
this
current
april
5th
date
down
on
tuesday,
and
I
think
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
I
think
the
people
who
are
promoting
this
annexation
are
comfortable
with
that,
because
we're
setting
down
a
new
path.
So
I
hope
all
the
tension
is
gone
and
lifted
and
anxiety
as
to
who's
for
it
and
who's.
Not
we
will
take
it
up
next
january
and
today
will
be
the
beginning
of
gathering
those
facts.
M
You
know
two
months
is
probably
too
tight
at
this
time
to
to
vote
this
through,
so
I
will
still
be
voting
no
for
it
today,
because
we
should
have
started
earlier
and
I
didn't
like
the
time
frame
put
on,
but
I'm
voting
with
a
new
spirit
as
to
new
cooperation
and
looking
at
this
thing
thoroughly
and
having
that
opportunity
and
as
councilwoman
strasberger
said,
not
one,
maybe
two,
three
four
post
agendas
held
by
some
other
members,
but
today
will
be
the
start
of
it.
M
I
Just
want
to
ask
the
question
of
what
that
means
after
we
do
all
this
investigative
work
to
see
that
if
the
city
of
pittsburgh
is,
you
know,
ready
to
vote
in
favor
of
the
annexation
that
this
requires
a
whole
another
petition
to
be
yes
circulated.
That
is
correct,
so
that
we're
then
like
throughout
this
process
like
is
it
expected
that
the
council
would
then
ask
for
that
petition
to
be
circulated?
M
May
I
jump
in
real,
quick
with
councilman
wilson,
the
the
idea,
the
framework
that
we
had
set
forth
right
now
is,
and
it
will
be
explained
we'll-
have
an
attorney
there
later
at
the
post
agenda.
But
the
process
has
to
be
the
same:
it's
an
annexation.
We
cannot
pursue
that,
they
have
to
pursue
it
once
they
pursue.
Then
we
put
it
in
their
hands
and
I
hope
you
know
we
get
to
a
point
where
they
can
vote
on
it
next
spring,
but
but
yeah.
N
L
You,
mr
chairman,
I
have
third,
your
second
round,
whatever
round
mom
sure.
A
L
The
just
just
to
dispel
any
confusion
around
voting
before
a
post
agenda
when
councilman
coco
brought
the
idea
of
the
post
agenda
forward.
I
was.
L
Available
opportunity,
I
think
it
was
a
little
over
two
weeks,
maybe
a
little
bit
longer
in
which
the
post
agenda
could
be
scheduled.
I
I'm
not
certain
looking
at
the
invited
list
for
this
afternoon's
post
agenda
that
anything
came
in
today
in
terms
of
making
the
argument
that
wouldn't
have
come
in
yesterday
and
had
the
post
agenda
held
tuesday
or
even
monday.
L
Looking
at
the
the
list
for
the
post
agenda
this
afternoon
of
invitees,
I
see
the
the
wilkinsburg
community
development
corporation.
I
see
dean
kaplan,
our
president
of
the
firefighters
or
president
of
the
fraternal
order
of
police
representative
from
school
board,
a
solicitor
ivor
weiss
law,
department,
solicitor,
a
and
real
estate
agents.
L
I
see
no
one
there
representing
mom
and
pop
and
everyday
wilkinsburg
citizen
that
the
the
development
corporation
likes
to
argue.
They
are
there
to
protect,
but
no
no
one
from
there
has
been
invited
to
to
tell
the
everyman
story
of
what
this
could
or
could
not
mean
for
wilkinsburg
and
to
take
it
into
the
realm
of
increased
population
and
what
that
could
mean
to
us
on
a
much
higher
elevated
level.
L
L
I'd
I
would
love
to.
I
would
love
to
see.
I
would
love
to
see
someone
just
address
that,
specifically,
if
we're
talking
about
purposefully
and
with
intent,
servicing
and
assisting
existing
residents
in
wilkinsburg
with
being
able
to
stay
in
their
homes
in
their
neighborhoods.
A
A
Because
I
mean
the
reality
is
to
your
point:
councilman.
What
we've
seen
in
the
city
is
increased
development,
new
residents
coming
in
and
a
continual
loss
in
population,
mostly
of
black
citizens,
because
they
simply
cannot
afford
to
stay,
and
that's
not
what
we
want
to
see
happen
with
wilkinsburg.
And
so
the
question
is
over
the
course
of
a
year.
Can
you
intentionally
plan
to
help
preserve
them
to
your
point?
Councilman
keep
them
in
their
homes,
while
also
potentially
benefiting
the
city
with
the
increase
in
population.
L
Yeah
and
if
you'll
permit
interrogatory
between
us,
I
would
argue
and
challenge
us.
Let's
do
that
in
knoxville
and
belcher
I'd
love
to
do
a
prototype
there
and
and
and
see
where
that
takes
us
there's
something
to
be
said
for
taking
care
of
our
own,
and
I
would
I'd
love
to
challenge
the
council
to
to
launch
a
prototype
and
see
if
that
isn't
something
that
we
can
do
in
neighborhoods
like
bose,
hoover
and
and
knoxville
and
alvin
town.
A
Know-
and
I
agree
with
you-
100
councilman
and
time
will
tell
whether
or
not
I'm
successful,
but
in
the
hill
district
I'm
trying
to
actually
figure
I'm
trying
to
do
that,
like
I'm,
actually
trying
to
have
my
cake
and
needed
to
by
developing
the
lower
hill,
but
using
the
tax
revenue.
Currently
that
has
been
loaned
to
us
by
a
bank
that
is
going
to
come
in
through
that
development
to
begin
fixing
up
residents,
homes
and
building
out
their
businesses
now
so
that
when
the
lower
hills
develop,
they
actually
benefit
as
opposed
to
being
displaced.
A
L
But
I
trust
your
judgment
councilman
and
you're
extremely
talented
in
that
regard,
and
if
anyone
can
do
that,
you
can-
and
I
believe
you
will
be
successful
in
that.
Thank
you.
A
M
That's
great,
and
can
I
just
add
you
know
I
know
councilman
cross
pointed
out.
You
know
it
seemed
to
be
all
pro
well.
The
bottom
line
is
this
is
a
fact-finding
post-agenda
period.
It
happens
to
be
that
the
cdc
did
hire
pfm.
Who
did
the
financial
analysis?
I
don't
care
who
hired
them.
Tell
you
the
truth,
but
they
have
an
analysis
for
us,
and
this
is
strictly
a
fact
finding.
This
is
a
not
who's
for
who's
against
meeting
we're
past
that
we're
moving
on
and
we're
looking
forward
to
next
year.
J
Have
my
last
comments,
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
want
to
thank
you
councilman
for
working
with
us
on
this.
J
But
I
do
care
that
then,
and
I
think
you'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
in
the
next
piece
of
legislation
that
the
cdc
will
not
be
part
moving
forward
of
some
of
this
stuff
and
and
that's
why
I
have
an
email,
I'm
hoping
that's
correct,
that
it
is
going
to
be
driven
by
the
elected
bodies
on
both
wilkinsburg
and
city
council
and
by
the
residents
of
both
of
our
that
we
both
represent,
and
as
I
mentioned
it's
not
as
if
I
want
to
not
see
development
occur,
I
want
to
see
people
not
pushed
out
because
of
it.
J
So
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
conversations
that
have
to
happen
and
so
I'll
I'll
shut
up
for
this
one,
because
I
have
that
we
have
the
next
bill
coming
up
regarding
the
process.
L
Chair
will
you
permit
help
yeah?
Thank
you.
I'm
I'm
bound
up
today,
I'm
I'm
a
little
dismayed
at
the
ambivalence
of
going
against
the
wishes
of
a
duly
elected
body.
L
They've
been
adamantly
opposed
to
this,
and
I
want
to
like
I
said
this
morning
regarding
the
equipment
leasing
authority.
I
want
to
respect
the
process.
I
want
to
respect
those
that
were
put
in
place
by
the
electorate
to
make
these
kinds
of
choices
and
decisions
and
to
side
with
a
a
developer
against
the
wishes
of
the
duly
elected
body
gives
me
great
pause,
and
I
think
if
that
were
happening
to
us
as
an
elected
body,
we'd
be
furious.
L
We
would
be
absolutely
furious
and
I'd
like
to
channel
some
of
that
fury
to
the
situation
where
a
development
corporation
can
supersede
the
wishes
of
an
elected
body.
Thank
you
and
I
promise
I'm
done.
A
N
A
J
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilman
burgess
has
an
amendment
and
that
can
we
can
I'd
rather
discuss
after
we
passed
the
amendment.
R
So
after
working
closely
with
our
solicitor
under
the
direction
of
our
president,
we
craft
this
amendment
and
after
conversations
with
all
stakeholders,
this
amendment
has
been
crafted.
R
R
Amendment
actually
and
and
the
changes
are
underlying,
but
there
really
does
three
things:
basically
one.
It
sets
up
a
process
of
any
future
annexations
merger
it
gives
council
council
now
will
lead
this
process
right.
It
sets
up
a
process
for
us
to
do
it,
and
so
the
first
step
of
that
is
to
set
up
an
investigation
arm
of
the
council.
R
So
council
now
will
be
in
power
after
this
legislation,
if
president
deems
that
we
will
be
empowered
to
initiate
the
investigation
of
wilkinsburg
and
then
that
initial
investigation
will
come
up
with
a
template
similar
to
what
councilwoman
gross
was
saying,
which
was
very
very,
very
much
taken
by
her
words
that
we
need
to
set
up
an
external
template
of
all
the
interests
we
would
have
to
investigate,
to
figure
out
what
it
is
and
that
would
be
known
by
council
on
the
front
end.
R
These
are
the
areas
and
the
council
would
have
an
opportunity
to
participate.
These
are
the
areas
you
know
water
and
sewer
infrastructure,
home
ownership.
Whatever
those
things
are,
the
council
would
have
a
chance
to
participate
in
that
that
process.
It
would
be
interactive
with
council
and
the
it'll
be
led
by
the
finance
chair,
and
then
the
president
would
appoint
the
other
members
up
to
four.
R
Usually
people
whose
district,
because
this
is,
although
we're
starting
wilkinsburg,
is
a
process
for
all
in
all
annexations
moving
forward
and
then
within
six
months,
council
would
receive
a
report
to
talk
about
that
impact
and
it's
a
little
bit
more
detailed
and
it
gives
the
clerk
it
allows
some
money
to
be
set
aside
for
the
use
of
that
special
committee.
I
think
those
are
the
big
bullet
points,
so
I.
J
I
just
want
to
be
clear
you
all
you
did
was
supposed
to.
You
were
supposed
to
was
changed
to
just
say
we're
going
to
focus
on
wilkinsburg.
First,
yes,
and
then
all
the
other
things
we
had
in
place,
which
was
supposed
to
remain,
including
having
all
members
of
council
involved,
not
just
three
well,
this
one
says
three,
not
four.
R
J
Just
want
to
be
clear:
it's
not
a
hostile
amendment.
We
do
talk
about
it,
so
I
don't
maybe
think
that,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
all
members
are
included
and
involved
and
engaged
in
this
process.
So
I
don't,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
can
make
sure
that
happens?
Introduce
yourself
for
the
public
and.
S
Dan
friedton
solicitor
to
council
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
so
when
they've
been
saying
best
solicitor,
our
solicitor
they
met
me
not.
The
law
department
be
clear,
so
this
was
basically
a
listening
exercise
more
than
anything
where
we
did
try
to
capture
every
council
person's
concerns
and
everybody
was
supposed
to
have
gotten
something.
If
you
will
in
this.
So
to
that
and
from
the
beginning,
I
think
all
council
people
were
involved
in
the
and
the
birth
of
this
particular
resolution.
S
J
S
J
I
just
say
I
I
understand
that,
but
initially
what
I
asked
for
was
that
each
member
would
be
able
to
investigate
under
their
committee
and
the
things
that
they're
charged
with
and
bring
back
a
report
to
whomever
it
is.
I
appoint
which
we
already
discussed
would
be
councilman
val
under
finance
and
law.
S
Gotcha
well
so.
J
S
Eight,
then,
if
you
look
at
the
second
or
second
sentence,
there's
you
know
basically
there'll
be
an
impact
report
developed
in
concert
with
elected
officials
of
the
impacted
municipality,
school
district,
duly
appointed
members
of
municipal
authorities.
The
second
sentence.
There
then
says
prior
to
presentation
to
each
standing
committee.
There
shall
be
reasonable
public
process,
so
there'll
still
be
more
information
than
gathered
to
the
public,
and
then
that
impact
report
is
supposed
to
be
communicated
to
each
standard.
J
J
They're
involved,
I
just
don't
want
to
do
anything
that
excludes
any
member,
especially
because
they
do
represent
and
oversee
really
important
parts
of
the
community.
Councilman
krauss,
all
the
contracts
that
we'd
have
to
consider
and
councilwoman
gross
with
intergovernmental
fears
and
right.
S
J
S
We
know
members
of
council
so
that
we
you
know,
can
continue
to
conduct
our
business
in
accordance
with
robert's
rules
order
and
all
that
other
fun
stuff.
So
that
said,
by
all
means,
once
you
make
a
decision,
if
you
make
a
decision,
I'm
not
going
to
presume
that
you
are
to
pass
this
and
form
an
investigative
committee.
Then
that
would
be
part
of
your
template
that,
maybe
you
would
say
you
know,
other
municipalities
that
might
be
interested
in
being
wilkins
or
being
pittsburgh
would
have
to
present
to
our
standing
committees.
S
J
So
I'm
gonna
I'll
save
the
rest
of
my
comments
for
the
actual
bill.
J
But
for
this
part
I
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
working
with
us
on
all
of
this,
and
I
want
to
thank
which
our
county
exec
rich
fitzgerald
joanna,
dovan,
reverend
burgess
and
councilman
mobile
for
coming
together
to
try
to
figure
this
out
for
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
in
this
region.
Knowing
that
I
felt
differently
than
than
they
did.
I
think
that
everybody
coming
together
and
you
helping
us
with
this
legislation
is
really
important.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you.
L
You
on
the
amendment
I
had
had
conversation
with
both
president
smith
and
councilman
burgess
about
my
concerns
about
using
the
terminology
of
investigation
and
that
it
almost
sounds
as
if
there
is
some
interest
in
hostile
takeover
and
that
we
are
going
to
come
in
and
investigate
if
it
is
somehow
advantageous
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
overtake
you-
and
my
fears
were
not
unfounded,
because
I
got
calls
saying
well
you're
going
to
take
us
over.
L
I
think
you,
many
members
may
or
may
not
realize
I
I
have
a
municipal,
a
borough
that
sits
right
in
the
very
center
we
called
the
donut
of
the
third
council
district
that
clearly
raised
concerns
very
quickly.
As
do
you
wish
to
investigate
us
and
take
us
over,
I
would
offer
a
friendly
amendment
if
councilman
burgess
is
to
to
accept,
and
that
would
be
to
change
the
terminology
of
investigate
to
make
inquiry,
and
I
think
it
just
maybe
it's
an
easier
softer,
gentler
way
of
saying
this
interests
us.
L
R
J
R
I'm
just
saying
the
picked
investigation
is:
it
is
a
power
inherent
in
in
the
hungary
charter
that
council
can
perform,
and
so
that's
why
the
word
is
picked.
It
wasn't
to
be.
You
know
what
it
was
a
technical
word.
It
wasn't,
you
know,
I
think,
maybe
maybe
what
we
should
do
to
split
the
baby
is
to
use
the
word
and
what's
the
word
you
want
to
use
or
if
we
use
that,
in
parentheses,
next
to
investigation,
if
that
would
soften
it
for
you,
I
would.
R
S
I
mean
first
of
all,
councilman
burgess
asked
councilman
krause
a
question
and
I
don't
want
to
interrupt.
Did
you
hear
his
question?
Councilman
krauss.
S
There's
with
with
something
that
is
enormous
and
creates
so
much
responsibility,
and
you
need
the
reliability
of
that
information
like
you
need
to
be
able
to
rely
on
that
information,
you
don't
want
soft
numbers
that
are
spun.
You
want
people
to
be
able.
If
you
ask
for
information,
you
don't
have
to
sit
there
and
wait
for
it
forever.
L
I
don't
want
to
overspeak
you
I
but
mr
freitas
and
you
you,
you
amplify
my
concern
and
reservation
the.
L
If,
if
and
forgive
me,
I
I'm
trying
to
read
as
we
have
the
discussion
if
I
can
find
comfort
in
the
fact
that
these
investigations
are
in
reaction
to
petitions
from
a
municipal,
municipality,
township
or
borough
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
I
could
find
a
level
of
comfort
with
that
terminology
if
it,
if
it
doesn't
spell
out
that
it's
initiated
by
a
municipality,
municipality,
township
or
borough,
asking
the
city
of
pittsburgh
for
merger
or
annexation
it.
L
S
Chair
sure,
so
there's
nothing
in
this
resolution
that
compels
you
to
unify
in
any
way
shape
or
form
with
any
organization,
and
so
as
also
what
I
try
to
do
here
is
give
you
the
freedom
to
make
exactly
that
point,
councilman
krause,
and
to
work
as
a
as
a
group
to
be
like
this
is
the
template.
S
L
L
A
Yes,
the
very
first
sentence,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
this
may
put
you
at
ease
so
resolution
authorizing
the
city,
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
council,
to
conduct
investigations
dealing
with
the
legislative
and
administrative
matters
of
whether
or
not
unification
with
strike.
Other
municipalities
just
say
with
the
borough
of
wilkinsburg
would
be
the
desire
of
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
said
investigation
is,
is
only
occurring
because
the
citizens
of
wilkinsburg
for
put
forth
a
petition.
L
Mr
chair
appreciate
that
I'd
even
tighten
it
up
a
little
bit
more
and
invest.
I'm
sorry
resolution
authorizing
city
of
pittsburgh
council
to
conduct
investigations
dealing
with
the
legislative
and
administrative
matters
of
whether
or
not
unification
with
the
borough
of
wilkinsburg
would
be
the
desire
of
it
in
the
no
wait
with
the
wilkinsburg
as
petitioned
would
be
in
the
desire
of
and
in
the
best
interests
of
the
citizens
of
pittsburgh.
I
could
accept
that.
Okay,
mr
burgess
could.
A
S
If
I
may
respond
to
that,
it
doesn't
do
anything
for
districts,
one
four
three,
you
know
the
other,
so
the
southwest
of
the
river
conversation
now
is
excluded
from
this
resolution.
If
that's
the
case,
but.
L
I
believe
we
know
it's
it's
so
easy
to
get
into
the
weeds
and
not
just
stay
in
the
moment
in
time,
and
the
the
moment
in
time
is
the
discussion
of
wilkinsburg
and
we
can
always
take
that
in
in
different
directions.
If
at
another
time
we
choose
to
do
so,
but
this
idea
that
we
have
to
be
all
encompassing
at
this
moment
in
time-
I
don't
think
is
necessary.
I
I
could
find
my
way
and
I
look
I'm
going
to
bow
to
the
will
of
the
body.
L
If,
if
we
don't
make
the
changes,
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
support,
I
don't
mean
that
as
a
threat
by
any
means,
please
don't
take
it
that
way,
but
I
I
hope
we
can
find
our
way
to
to
limit
it
to
the
the
council
or
I'm
sorry,
the
borough
of
wilkinsburg,
as
petitioned
with
the
language
that
or
the
striking
of
language
that
the
chair
offered,
and
I
could
find
my
way
then
to
be
comforted
and
to
and
to
vote.
L
I
just
worry
about
the
legacy
we
leave
behind
and
how
others
might
interpret
the
powers
that
they
believe
we
have
to
to
annex
without
petition
may.
N
S
L
Yeah,
I
do
I
understand
that
already,
and
I
appreciate
your
your
attempt
to
clarify,
but
I
I
understand
that
it
would
still
come
back
to
council.
I
I
you
know
I
I
just.
I
can't
find
my
way
to
be
that
broad
in
terminology
when
at
this
moment
in
time,
what's
on
her
plate,
is
the
the
the
possible
merger
slash
annexation
of
wilkinsburg
at
another
time
and
place,
and
I'd
like
to
keep
it
tailored
tightly
to
that
at
this
point
in
time,.
L
I
am
unless,
when
the
time
is
appropriate,
if
members
are
acceptable,
would
you
then
offer
that
amendment
and
read
it
to
to
the
clerk
for
clarification
and
for
input
from
members.
A
Yes,
councilman
wilson,
no
okay,
I
had
councilman
coghill
now.
M
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
a
quick
comment.
I
listened
I
heard
about
what
half
about
what
councilman
krauss
was
saying.
Hopefully
this
will
clarify.
If
not
now
we
will
clarify
to
post
agenda,
but
pittsburgh
is
not
allowed
to
pursue
mount
oliver
or
any
other
municipalities.
The
municipality
has
to
come
to
pittsburgh
by
law.
In
order
to
ex
you
know,
to
keep
us
from
gobbling
up
territory
and
ground,
you
know
so
so
so
that
will
be
stated
later.
J
S
As
you
will
hear
at
the
post
agenda,
this
is
councilman
coghill
very
accurately,
articulated
the
city
is
sec,
we're
a
second
class
city,
so
the
power
of
merger,
the
way
that
most
people
think
of
it,
and
I
did
misspeak
at
the
public
hearing
when
I
said
you
know,
there's
other
ways
to
merge.
I
should
have
said
unification,
because
first
city,
this
I
was
just
talking
because
people
were-
is
a
common
lay
person's
conversation.
I
was
trying
to
communicate
information,
but
he's
right.
S
We
there's
the
city
of
pittsburgh
as
a
second-class
city,
and
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
cannot
just
take
over
some
other
territory.
We
do
not
have
the
power
to
do
that
if
we
were
a
third
class
city,
if
we're
a
city
of
you
know
any
other,
but
first-class
cities,
which
is
philadelphia
and
second-class
cities
which
are
pittsburgh,
and
these
are
classes
based
on
population.
S
We
can't
do
the
the
merger,
like
the
the
way
that
that
would
calculate
the
people's
minds.
It
might
be
afraid
that
pittsburgh
is
coming
to
take
them
over
it.
Would
it
would
have
to
be
that
they
then
we
would
be
merging
into
mount
oliver
right?
That
we
would
become
mount
oliver
that
would
work
out.
It
wouldn't
be
the
other
way
we
couldn't
take
over
a
municipality
and
then
still
be
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
that's
ridiculous.
We're
not
going
to
do
that.
S
We're
going
to
stay
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
so
it
had
the
only
way
it
could
really
work.
Is
you
know
if
we
were
doing
agreement?
The
reason
this
is
a
unifications
and
not
an
annex
and
merger
proposal
is
maybe
taking
over.
Just
the
school
districts
makes
sense
or
like
in
wilkinsburg
we
do
trash.
We
do
fire,
we
do
some
of
the
schools,
not
all
the
schools.
S
We're
done,
it
kind
of
depends
on
what
the
needs
are
and
the
desires
are
of
the
citizens
of
pittsburgh,
as
it
relates
to
these
other
territories
or
portions
thereof,
and
it
might
be
that
in
the
course
of
your
investigation
with
wilkinsburg
that
it's
not
financially
feasible
to
just
do
wilkinsburg
without
doing
some
other
territory
or
some
other
place.
So
I
didn't
I
mean
I
don't
have
a
horse
in
the
race.
This
is
up
to
you.
S
I
tried
to
provide
you
the
resolution
that
had
enough
flexibility
for
you
guys
to
continue
to
tailor
it
as
you
move
down
the
road,
because
I
do
think
that
every
opportunity
or
or
or
inquiry
into
any
kind
of
unification
is
going
to
require
a
fresh
vote
of
counsel
and
for
you
guys
to
develop
a
template
and
a
framework
for
which
you
would
like
to
pursue
it.
But
this
puts
the
power
right
back
into
your
hands.
Councilman
krauss
by
all
means.
L
A
F
L
So,
mr
chair,
am
I
then,
or
not
so
just
to
in
response
to
the
solicitor's
remarks
under
section
4,
to
establish
process.
The
preliminary
step
of
the
investigation
is
to
develop
a
template
for
the
due
process
owed
to
council
and
the
citizens
of
pittsburgh
to
consider
whether
or
not
any
unification
efforts
should
be
pursued
at
all
by
whom
it
doesn't
clarify
and
if
so,
how
and
when
and
the
preliminary
step
is
completed
upon
a
communication
by
council.
I
don't
understand
what
the
preliminary
step
is
completed
by
a
communication
by
council.
A
J
A
J
A
J
J
L
A
Just
double
checking
to
make
sure
I
don't
I
don't
I
don't
yeah,
I
don't
see
either
one
okay,
so
that
bill
will
stay
on
the
table
that
will
take
us
to
land
use
economic
development
committee
chaired
by
councilman
wilson,
wonderful
paper,
bill
12.
H
Bill
12
ordinance
amendment
supplement
in
the
city
quota,
title
vi,
conduct
article
1,
regulated
rights
and
actions
by
adding
a
new
chapter,
610
entitled
prohibition
on
use
of
certain
bags
and
check
out
bag
charge
to
permit
the
use
of
only
certain
bags
by
retail
establishments
at
the
point
of
sale
or
for
a
delivery
and
establishing
a
charge
payable
by
the
customer
to
the
establishment
for
the
provision
of
other
types
of
bags,
all
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
Listen.
I
A
H
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Bill
number
48
bill.
A
H
Kill
49
resolution
amendment
resolution
number
951
amending
number
768
of
29
2009
entitled
adopting
and
approving
the
20t
and
capital
budget.
Two
correct
account
numbers
on
the
funds
being
transferred
to
the
east,
ohio,
streepskate
planning
and
design
project
notion.
A
P
Motion
to
approve
brief
discussion.
Second
again,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
people
to
know
that
I
wanted
members
and
the
public
to
know
that
this
is
to
allow
for
the
implementation
and
enforcement
of
the
lead
ordinance
that
we
passed
last
year.
So
this
is
the
inp
side
of
enforcement
and
implementation
of
that
bill.
L
L
P
I
will
have
to
defer
to
dr
kinter
acting
director
or
director
norman
for
that
question.
I.
A
T
Are
you
I
am
good
morning
that
expenditure
was
provided
by
council
through
an
amendment
in
december
to
add
additional
funds
to
support
the
configuration
for
the
lead
safety
ordinance.
N
A
Any
opposed
bill
is
recommended
takes
us
to
our
last
committee,
intergovernmental
affairs,
chaired
by
councilman
gross
one
new
paper
bill,
44.
rule.
P
A
Any
opposed
it
will
be
held
two
weeks
that
takes
us
back
to
bill
45.
Unfortunately
councilman
I
do
not
see
any
see
anyone
has
joined
us
to
discuss
it.
What
is
your
pleasure?
I.
A
And
seconded
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
aye
aye
bill
will
be
held
one
week
that
does
exhaust
our
agenda.
For
today
we
have
meeting
announcements
this
afternoon
in
a
couple
minutes
at
1,
30.
council
will
hold
a
cable
cast
post
agenda
on
the
potential
annexation
of
wilkinsburg.
A
Next
week,
council
will
hold
our
regular
understanding
committee
meetings
on
tuesday
february,
8th
and
wednesday
february
9th
respectively.
Both
meetings
will
be
held
at
10
a.m.
To
register
to
speak,
please
fill
out
the
sign
up
form
on
the
council
meeting
webpage
at
9
a.m.
This
morning
of
said
meeting
you
may
also
call
the
city
clerk's
office
at
412-255-2138.