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A
A
C
C
I
think
public
service
is
an
honor,
and
I
am
grateful
that
I
will
get
the
opportunity
to
serve
the
city
and
I
hope,
please
feel
free
to
ask
me
any
questions.
I
will
say
that
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
I
bring
to
this
position
is
an
ability
to
manage
people
to
drive
a
mission
driven
office
and
to
give
sound
legal
advice
where
we
try
to
get
to
yes
and
partner
with
all
of
the
both
the
council,
the
mayor's
office
and
all
the
departments
of
the
city.
D
C
A
You
so
much
for
your
comments,
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
members
now.
I
know
this
is
intimidating,
just
relax.
We
are
all
here
to
try
to
do
you
know
whatever
we
can
for
the
best
betterment
of
the
city,
it's
hard
to
do
an
interview,
while
on
tv
I
thank
you
for
for
your
patience
with
us,
we're
going
to
begin
with
councilman
lavelle.
A
D
You
and
thank
you
for
being
here
with
us
today.
You
mentioned
a
background
in
infrastructure
law,
which
I
think
is
timely.
Obviously
a
question
though.
However,
how
does
that
tie
into
municipal
law
because
you
don't
have
experience
in
municipal
laws?
I
just
would
like
to
hear
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
how
that
ties
into
municipal
law
and
then
the
plan
on
being
able
to
get
caught
up
on
municipal
law.
C
Sure
let
me
give
a
little
background
for
the
people
who
might
not
be
aware.
There
are
four
practice
groups
in
the
law
department
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
There
is
employment
and
labor,
there
is
state
litigation
and
there
is
federal
litigation
and
then
there's
the
municipal
law
practice
group.
So
it
is
a
third
of
the
legal
department
of
their
practice
groups
york,
correct,
but
the
municipal
law
doesn't
just
cover
what
we
would
say
strictly
municipal,
I.e,
legislation
in
front
of
city,
council
or
interpretation
of
the
homeworld
charter.
C
It
also
includes
things
like
the
right
to
know
laws
but
also
contracts.
I
mean
a
significant
portion
of
the
work
is
contractual
work
either
with
the
dpw
with
public
service,
with
the
parks
with
the
cbd.
I'm
getting
that
wrong,
but
yeah
all
of
those
contracts
flow
through
the
municipal
group,
and
I
have
experience
with
all
of
the
contractual
work.
C
I
will
say
some
of
them
do
legal
work,
that
there
is
not
a
private
attorney
in
town
that
has
those
types
of
skills,
and
I
want
to
give
a
little
shout
out
to
that
municipal
group
because
they
don't
get
much
recognition
but
specifically
lorraine,
mackler,
matt,
steidel,
jack
miller,
anthony
ballan
ben
smith.
Sarah
steers
celia,
kristen,
erickson
and
jesse
exellis
are
excellent
attorneys.
Who
have
a
lot
of
experience.
I
will
tell
you,
I
I
believe
that
group
intelligence
is
the
best
intelligence
right.
C
We
are
all
smarter
together
than
we
are
alone,
and
I
certainly
will
rely
on
them
for
their
expertise.
But
I
think
what
I
bring
to
the
position
is
the
ability
to
manage
across
departments
what
I
see.
Occasionally,
people
get
siloed
even
within
the
legal
department,
so
they
only
look
at
their
little
slice
of
it
and
because
of
my
position
that
I've
had
previously,
I
can
see
multiple
legal
issues,
and
so
we
make
sure
we're
checking
all
of
the
boxes
whenever
an
issue
arises.
C
C
I
believe
I
serve
them
all
equally
and
I
hope
that
no
conflicts
arise
when
I
say
that,
so
that
we
drive
to
thor
towards
one
decision
for
all
of
them.
If
conflicts
do
arise,
we
need
to
address
the
conflicts.
I
do
think
we
can
do
that
by
coordinating
off
different
parts
of
the
legal
department
or
with
your
work
with
your
new
council
solicitor.
C
D
Since
you
mentioned
it
on
my
time
here,
there
have
always
inherently
been
conflicts.
Conflicts
between
council
and
authorities,
conflicts
between
the
administration
and
council.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
your
plan
to
address
the
conflicts
from
the
administration
and
council
when
they
do
arise.
C
C
C
E
Guys
I
apologize
for
not
being
there
in
there
in
person
today,
because
this
is
such
an
important
interview
and
I
would
like
very
much
to
have
been
with
you
and
I
bothers
me
that
I
can't
see
you
because
I
need
I'd
love
to
make
there
you
are.
I
can
see
you
now
that
I
feel
better
about
this.
So
first,
having
read
your
resume,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service
to
pittsburgh,
action
against
rape
and
your
board
service
for
two
years.
E
C
E
E
E
And
so
I
just
use
that
as
an
example
of
what
I
have
learned,
the
law
department
is
is
forced
for
lack
of
a
better
word
to
deal
with
on
it
on
a
daily
basis
that
we
we
we
never
know
when
the
the
next
crisis
may
occur,
or
the
next
thing
that
requires
our
attention
is
going
to
be
put
into
our
day.
And
so
I'd
like.
E
I
would
like
you
to
perhaps
maybe
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
thinking
on
your
feet
for
a
lack
of
a
better
way,
or
maybe
a
poor
way
to
put
that,
but
sort
of
understanding
that
that
there
will
be
a
lot
that
is
required
of
us,
and
much
of
it
will
be
required
in
a
very
limited
amount
of
time
that
will
have
to
be
equipped
to
deal
with.
And
so
I
just
kind
of
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
of
what
your
thoughts
are.
C
C
That's
a
really
good
point:
councilman
krauss,
I
I
will
say
I
said
a
couple
of
times
over
the
weekend
because
most
of
my
weekend
was
spent
busy
on
city
events.
Is
that
decisions
that
I
would
normally
take
three
weeks
on
were
being
made
in
15
minutes,
and
it's
certainly
for
a
lawyer.
You
know
not
the
most
comfortable
place
to
be,
but
the
reality
is.
We
were
in
an
emergency
that
needed
fast
moving
decisions
and
that
that
part
you
have
to
be
comfortable
with
in
this
position.
C
C
You
know
we
talk
about
critical
path
items,
often
right,
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
working
as
much
as
possible,
so
we
can
get
to
that
and
working
at
the
same
time,
so
that
we
can
get
to
that
final
decision
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
I
certainly
in
my
prior
positions.
Customer
service
has
always
been
a
priority
for
me
and
I
will
take
that
into
this
department
as
well.
C
We
are
hoped
to
be
here
to
serve
both
our
external
clients,
which
are
the
residents
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
our
internal
clients,
which
are
the
employees
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
of
counsel
and
of
the
mayor's
office,
and
both
of
that
is
a
high
priority
for
us.
So
please,
if
ever
you
are
concerned
about
our
customer
service.
I
hope
you
addressed
it
directly
to
me,
because
that
will
be
a
high
priority
for
us.
E
E
I
am
certain
that
many
could
find
a
much
higher
salary
ranges
if
they
were
not
employed
by
the
city,
but
they
do
choose
to
do
it
out
of
a
love
for
for
the
city
and
a
love
for
public
service,
and-
and
I
appreciate
that
you
were-
were
willing
to
recognize
the
the
quality
of
personage
we
have
there.
I
would
throw
one
more
in
there
and
that
would
be
wendy
kobe.
C
So,
although
I
did
have
government
affairs,
that
was
not
my
whole
job,
but
I
do
say
specifically,
this
is
not
a
government
affairs
position.
This
is
a
legal
permission
position
first
and
foremost,
and
my
advice
to
you
to
the
mayor
and
to
city
employees
will
always
take
law
is
will
always
be
driven
by
the
legality
of
it.
E
C
Yeah
we
had
similar
issues
and
prior
positions
that
I've
had,
and
I
think
what
I
will
say
is
what
we
intend
to
bring
to
is
one
clarity
of
communication.
So
if
the
person
who
wants
to
have
a
contract
reviewed
by
the
legal
department,
if
they
aren't
clear
on
what
the
legal
department
needs
in
order
to
review
that
contract,
it
can
cause
undue
delays.
C
And
then
we
will
set
a
clear
amount
of
time
that
the
law
department
will
have
to
review
the
contract.
Certainly
some
contracts,
much
easier
to
review
standard
definitions,
things
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
changes
and
then
there's
other
contracts
with
brand
new
provisions
in
them
that
we've
never
seen
before.
We're
not
sure
of
what
the
legal
implications
are.
C
So,
therefore,
we
need
more
time
to
research
and
make
sure
we
get
to
the
right
place
once
we
do
that,
we
then
also
need
to
set
out
times
that
we
expect
responses
from
our
clients
right.
So
because
a
lot
of
times,
if
you,
if
the
question
is,
are
you
willing
to
concede
on
this
point?
Or
this
point?
It
is
a
decision
made
by
the
business
partner.
C
E
Yeah
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
your
response.
It
was
exactly
what
I
was
hoping
to
hear.
We
we
all
wish
for
expediency,
especially
in
the
digital
age,
where
you
know
everybody
thinks
just
because
I
emailed
you
something
is
automatically
resolved
and
why
is
it
finished
in
10
minutes,
and
so
I
I
really
appreciate
a
careful
and
cautious
and
diligent
approach
to
contract
law.
We
are
you
know
we
we
are
entering
into
contract
and
and
to
know
that
front
and
center.
E
E
C
A
really
good
point
councilman
cross.
I
just
want
to
echo
you,
which
is
we're
very
lucky-
to
have
wendy
kobe
as
the
associate
solicitor
for
the
labor
and
employment
group.
She
has
years
of
experience
in
those
areas
which
are
really
helpful.
I
certainly
have
experience
both
in
litigating
and
reviewing
labor
and
employment
issues
in
the
private
sector,
not
in,
but
also
familiar
with
the
union
rules.
C
That
will
will
that
also
govern,
and
that's
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
constantly
abiding
by
the
collective
bargaining
agreements
that
we
are
paying
attention
to
the
civil
service
rules
and
we
are
working
hand
in
glove
with
the
hr
department.
Certainly,
the
human
resources
department
is
the
one
who
administers
most
of
the
stuff,
but
we
are
responsible
for
the
the
negotiation
of
contracts
and
we
at
this
point
are
down
to
attorneys
in
the
labor
and
employment
group.
So
we
are
hoping
to
be
able
to
fill
those
positions.
E
E
So
after
mayor
peduto
was
elected
and
he
was
in
office,
maybe
two
months
or
so
we
had
lunch
and
I
said
to
him
I
said
mayor,
I'm
just
curious.
What
did
you
know
now
that,
even
though
you've
been
on
the
fifth
floor
for
as
long
a
time
as
what
you've
been
now
that
you're
over
in
the
mayor's
office?
Up
to
this
point,
you
only
imagined
what
it
was
like
to
be
there,
but
now
that
you
are
there?
What
is
different
from
what
you
expected
and
I'll
never
forget
his
response.
E
He
said
to
me:
I
am
awash
in
matters
of
personnel
that
they
consume
every
minute
of
every
day
and
when
you,
when
you're
employed,
when
we
employ
34
3
500
employees,
that
those
that's
a
lot
of
matters
of
personnel
and
again,
I
I
hearken
back
to
our
ability
to
to
be
flexible
and
fluid
and
to
be
able
to
respond
to
things
sort
of
at
a
moment's
notice,
because
we
never
quite
you
know,
understand
what
the
day
might
bring
to
us.
But
a
lot
of
it.
E
C
E
Yeah
yeah
people,
you
know
we
all
we're
we're
in
these
jobs
because
of
I
hope,
because
of
our
love
of
people
and
and
you
know,
and
our
desire
to
serve-
and
you
know
you
know
we're
dealing
with
people.
There
were
two
other
areas
of
law.
Forgive
me.
I
did
not
write
them
down
beyond
employment,
labor
and
contract.
Could
you
refresh
my
memory?
Please.
C
E
Okay,
and
so
that
would
come
in
handy,
I
imagine
in
terms
of
your
ability
to
assist
in
bringing
additional
dollars
into
the
city
that
are
not
that
are
outside
of
our
tax
base.
If
you
will,
that
would
come
in
terms
of
negotiations
with
federal
government,
community
development
block
grant
monies
state
dollars
that
might
be
available
to
us,
as
well
as
grants
and
understanding
sort
of
the
complexities
of
grants,
how
to
make
certain
that
all
of
that
is
crafted
appropriately
and
to
be
able
to
bring
those
additional
dollars
in.
C
E
Yeah
managing
expectations.
You
know
we
we
get
a
lot
of
that.
That
people
believe
that
we
have
sometimes
people
believe
we
have
powers
that
we
don't
have,
and
one
of
the
more
difficult
things
to
tell
people
is
that
we
don't
have
the
power
to
do
what
they're
asking
us
to
do
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
to
offer
up
in
terms
of
your
past
experience
that
might
help
to
edify
the
council.
No.
E
Okay,
I
appreciate
your
time
being
here.
Madam
chair,
I
may
have
some
more
questions.
I
apologize
for.
Taking
the
amount
of
time
I
did.
I
may
have
more
questions
after
other
members
have
had
an
opportunity
to
speak,
but
miss
kubiak.
It's
it's
a
pleasure
having
you
here,
and
I
really
appreciate
your
time.
A
F
F
One
of
the
things
I've
been
sort
of
councilman
lavelle
and
I
well
formally
and
informally,
have
kind
of
pondered
about.
Is
you
know
what
does
that
mean
for
me?
Being
the
you
know,
the
longest-serving
african-american
member
of
council,
how?
How
what's
that
mean
to
me
that,
what's
my
place
in
all
this
and
I
think
as
I've
thought
more
about
it
especially
recently,
I
think
one
of
the
roles
I
should
play
is
to
be
a
cheerleader
and
I've
not
always
been
a
cheerleader
right
in
times
past.
F
I
have
been
many
things
and
in
previous
confirmations,
can
we
fill
in
the
blanks
in
previous
confirmations.
I
have
been
aggressive
in
in
examining
candidates,
credentials
and
qualifications
and
experiences
and
and
in
in
prior
to
being
announced.
I
had
already
set
up
a
template
of
what
I
would
demand
a
solicitor,
but
on
retrospect
I
don't
think
that's
right.
F
I
don't
think
that's
my
role
anymore,
at
least
not
in
this
process.
I
think
my
role
is
to
be
a
cheerleader,
and
so
I
will,
for
the
most
part,
without
much
criticism,
and
I
say
criticism
not
negative.
As
you
know,
criticism
can
be
both
positive
negative,
but
without
any
sort
of
evaluation,
rather
other
than
you
know.
Of
course,
being
being,
you
know
qualified
by
credential
that
that
I
would
support
from
his
nominations,
and
I
intend
to
do
that
right,
and
so
I
will
not
ask
questions
really.
F
F
I
will
certainly
only
suggest
a
couple
things
to
you
perhaps,
and
one
is
that
council
has
decided
to
to
act
as
a
body
in
very
different
ways
than
in
years
past
right.
We
are
trying
to
as
much
as
we
can
support
our
president
as
she
leads
counsel
and
so
that
when
you
talk
to
her,
although
a
member
of
council
in
most
ways
she
will
be
speaking
for
all
of
us
and
that
we
also
hope
that
our
solicitor
and
you
will
have
a
sort
of
open
door
policy,
certainly
you're
busier
than
him.
F
You
know
you,
you
have
all
these
lawyers
that
you
have
to
attend
to,
and
he
has
us
screaming
at
him,
but
but
we
we.
We
hope
that
that
relationship
would
actually
be
fruitful
for
both
of
you
and
that
it
would
take
off
some
of
the
things
that
you
need.
Your
lawyers
to
do,
because
some
of
the
things
that
we
asked
are
very
specific
in
terms
of
research,
that
for
legislation
that
may
or
may
not
ever
be
written
right,
and
so
we
kind
of
need
a
a
hands-on
and
and
grateful
to
have
that,
and
so.
F
You
have
my
support
and
my
vote.
I
will
support
you
during
your
term
as
councils
as
solicitor,
as
I
have
yvonne
hilton.
As
I
have
lord,
as
I
have
george
spector
I
have
been,
I
have
maybe
been
on
the
minority
of
council.
I
have
taken
the
position.
I
have
never
criticized
the
law
department
nor
their
decisions,
even
if
I
did
not
agree
with
them.
I
have
never
criticized
them,
because
I
think
someone
has
to
be
the
referee.
All
right.
Someone
has
to
say
yes
or
no,
and
I'm
that's
not
me,
and
so
I
am.
F
I
am
looking
forward
to
working
with
you.
I
I
do
work
a
lot
with
the
solicitor
in
the
law
department
and
it
is
members
I
have
like
to
think.
I
have
fairly
good
relationships
with
them.
I
I
respect
their
capacity,
as
you
said
before.
I
respect
their
capacity,
I'm
looking
forward
to
you
as
being
new
and
seeing
what
new
ideas
from
the
corporate
sector
right
that
you
bring
and
from
your
your
wealth
of
experience
and
how
that's
different.
F
G
G
G
G
G
You
know,
barricade
and
also
state
clearly
to
the
public
that
you
can't
access
these
steps.
If
you
do
it's
at
your
own
risk,
so
I'm
just
curious
on
what
your
plan
like.
How
will
you
plan
to
communicate
with
departments
with
all
departments
on
you
know,
basically,
your
analysis
on
how
we
can
improve
improve
outcomes
with
possible
dangerous
situations
that
eventually
end
up
being
just
taxpayer
dollars.
C
You
discover
kind
of
inherent
problems
and
you
need
to
take
the
time
to
go
back
and
correct
the
issue.
The
underlying
issue
with
that
is
within
the
company,
and
that
would
be
within
the
city.
I
think
sometimes
I
have
heard
from
the
lawyers
that
things
can
get
siloed
at
times
right.
So
it's
just
it
kind
of
lives
within
the
law
department,
but
doesn't
really
echo
outside
of
the
law
department,
and
I
think
that
could
be
a
very
important
plan
that
I
would
like
to
do
is
a
sense
of
cooperation
with
the
other
departments.
C
I
think,
even
on
the
issue
of
say,
getting
away
from
litigation,
but
to
things
like
affordable
housing.
There
are
things
that
the
law
department
works
on
with
blighted
properties,
et
cetera,
that
really
we
could
be
working
on
a
much
broader
vision
and
seeing
if
we
can
tackle
affordable
housing,
while
also
addressing
some
of
the
legal
issues
that
we're
coming
up
to
right.
C
So
I'm
hoping
for
a
more
cross-collaborative
team
that
we
can
work
on
within
the
city,
and
I
am
certainly
willing
to
work
with
any
department
in
the
city
on
whatever
issue
they're
having
where
we
become
a
part
of
the
of
the
solution,
but
not
necessarily
just
solely
in
our
legal
capacity,
but
also
based
on
the
knowledge
that
we
have
really
engendered.
You
know
that
we
have
gained
by
the
fact
that
we've
gone
through
these
cases
and
being
able
to
share
that
knowledge
with
other
departments.
In
that.
G
G
C
The
city
owns
a
certain
number
of
properties
that
may
not
be
being
maintained.
At
that
degree,
we
need
to
make
a
decision
on
what
to
do
with
those
bladed
properties
right
and
either
we
need
to
maintain
them
or
we
need
to
turn
them
back
into
either
onto
the
tax
rolls
or
explore
different
ways
that
we
could
potentially
take
those
properties
and
working
potentially
with
the
ura
or
with
other
economic
development
agencies,
try
and
get
them
into
the
hands
of
residents
who
need
affordable
housing
as
well.
G
Well,
I'm
interested
in
working
with
you
on
that,
especially
the
model
that
we
create
around,
where
we
stand
on
on
conservatorship
with
individuals
that
file
conservatorship
with
the
city.
So
just
like
to
get
your
thoughts
on
that.
You
know
at
some
point
once
you
get
more
settled
in
right,
because
you
know
the
city,
you
know
there's
multiple
properties
where
maybe
it
is
the
best
decision
that
you
know
we
work
with
the
person
that
is
trying
to
acquire
that
through
conservatorship.
C
H
C
At
the
same
time,
I
think
a
plan
of
of
tackling
these
issues
and
doing
it
in
a
larger
strategic
scope.
I
think,
would
be
the
best
thing
for
the
city
and
the
residents
here
really
shouldn't
want
to
work
towards
having
neighborhoods,
where
people
can
stay
in
their
neighborhoods
but
still
be
proud
and
feel
safe
and
valued
within
those.
C
Very
excited
I've
already
gotten
a
chance
to
meet
your
solicitor
and
we've
had
a
great
conversation
that
I
think
was
a
good
chance
for
us
to
kind
of
set
it.
I
am
again,
I
look,
I
believe
in
group
intelligence,
so
another
voice
at
the
table.
Certainly
your
solicitor
knows
a
lot
of
the
lawyers
in
our
law
department
since
he
was
formerly
of
our
office.
So
I
think
I
think
we.
A
C
I
I
C
That's
a
great
I
yeah,
I
always
I'm
a
big
believer
in
the
people.
First
approach
to
it,
and
I
will
tell
you
we
again:
we,
as
we
said
we
have
a
really
strong
group,
but
I
do
feel
like
sometimes
they
feel
constrained
by
kind
of
the
limits
of
their
individual
position.
I
I
hope
that
we
have
more
development
pieces,
so
that's
certainly
something
that
I
had
one
thing
that
I'll
be
instituting.
C
I'm
again,
I'm
in
the
process
of
meeting
it
with
everyone
on
the
first
time
within
the
department
I'll
be
instituting
regular
meetings
with
the
entire
group,
with
the
lawyers
specifically
and
with
each
of
the
practice
groups,
so
that
we
make
sure
we
can
address
all
of
their
issues.
But
I
also
look
towards
a
time
where
we
work
on
development
plans.
So
if
people
are
working
on
a
certain
type
of
contract
in
a
certain
group,
but
they
have
other
interests
and
could
it
be
litigation
interests,
could
it
be
labor
and
employment
interests?
C
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up
councilwoman
because
it's
been
my
you
know,
but
I
have
a
very
limited
knowledge
and,
if
you've
you're
seeing
that
as
well,
then
that
probably
points
to
the
fact
that
this
is
a
ripe
area
that
I
want
to
address.
I
think
working
I'll.
Just
we
have
a
couple
of
open
positions,
so
I'm
going
to
plug
this.
I
think
working
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh
is
a
fascinating
place
to
work
because
of
the
level
of
work
that
you
do.
C
We
use
so
little
outside
council
that
there's
real
responsibility
on
relatively
young
lawyers
who
are
doing
excellent
work
with
john
doherty,
mike
kennedy,
wendy
kobe,
as
associate
solicitors,
who
are
there
as
resources?
You
know
people
who
have
years
and
years
of
experience
that
are
there
as
resources
for
these
young
attorneys.
So
I
think
it's
a
very
exciting
place
to
work,
and
certainly
with
some
of
the
goals
of
mayor
guinea's
administration.
C
I
Yeah
absolutely
agree,
and
I
promise
I
didn't
plan
that
that
wasn't
a
planned
plug,
but
I
know
I
appreciate
and
agree
with
everything
you
say
and
I
hope
that
we
can
find
even
more
people
to
support
the
work
that
you're
doing
all
the
other
questions
they
had
were
already
asked
and
answered.
So
that's
it
for
me.
Thank
you.
A
H
H
Back
and
forth,
it's
very
pretty
either
way
it's
very
nice,
so
so
yeah.
I
I
want
to
tell
you.
I
was
I
didn't
vote
for
having
to
interview
all
the
mayor's
appointees.
I
feel
the
mayor's
here,
it's
his
right.
You
know,
but
at
the
same
time
I
do
appreciate
it
just
to
get
to
know
you
a
little
bit
better
and
just
to
talk.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea,
so
you'll
have
my
full
support.
You
had
it
probably
before
you
sat
down
here
but
again
the
opportunity
just.
B
H
However,
I
do
find
conflict
with
a
new
attorney
in
the
way
of
I'll.
Just
give
you
an
example,
I'm
looking
to
him
for
advice
and
I've
got
other
members
looking
to
him
for
advice,
but
we're
on
different
sides
of
the
wall.
Okay,
so
he
is
now
representing
us
both
and
at
the
same
time
being
pulled
in
two
different
directions
and
it's
come
up
in
two
different
subjects
already.
So
my
question
to
you
is:
when
that
happens:
okay,
whoever's
working
with
mr
friedson
first
stays
with
mr
frieden.
H
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
call
on
you
know
your
office
and
you
give
me
an
attorney
to
talk
to
so
we're
not
you
know.
He's
again,
everybody
tries
to
paint
the
picture,
the
legal
picture
for
our
attorney
as
to
why
it
should
happen.
So
he's
got
me
telling
one
thing
and
somebody
else
on
them.
Another
and
you
know
going
back
and
forth
so
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you're
open
to
that.
C
H
Yeah
yeah
yeah
and
I've
discussed
it
with
him
and
he
sees
you
know
again.
I
didn't
anticipate
that
when
we
hired
him
yeah
he's
been
very
helpful
in
so
many
other
things.
It's
only
come
up,
you
know
once
or
twice
so
I
just
want
to
note
that
I
guess
more
than
anything,
how
many
attorneys
are
you
at
right
now
how
many
are
on
staff?
We.
I
H
H
Good,
that's
good
to
know
councilman
wilson
kind
of
alluded
to
this
in
some
degree,
as
far
as
like
city
steps
go,
you
know
now
when
I
see
the
lawsuits
that
come
our
way
and
you
know
it's
settle,
settle,
settle.
I
understand
very
well
how
you
know
if
we
have
to
pay
the
other
attorney's
fees-
and
you
know
eventually
what
we
do
you
know
settling
is
very
typically
the
easy
way
out
in
less
expensive
way
and
it
makes
sense
in
most
cases.
H
However,
I
do
feel
like
you
know:
there
are
bad
people
out
there
who
are
looking
to
sue
the
city
of
pittsburgh
just
because
there's
a
crack
in
us
or
they
trip
over
something.
You
know
I
don't
know
if
they're
even
reviewed,
to
be
honest
with
you,
you
know
if
they're
intensely
reviewed
and
like
you
know,
does
this
person
have
something
or
is
it
you
know
they
hired
a
tony?
We
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
risk
paying
their
attorney
too,
and
we're
going
to
cut
bait
basically
and
get
out.
H
C
C
H
H
H
Good
deal
good
deal
good
deal
good
deal,
we're
always
looking
at
the
dollars
and
cents,
though,
and
you
know
we
have
to
take
that
in
consideration.
It's
unfortunate.
I
I
don't
like
the
idea
that
you
have
to
pay
the
other
attorney's
fees.
I
really
don't.
I
think
you
know.
If
you're
going
to
hire
an
attorney,
then
you
know
and
you
lose
then
we're
not
so
anyway,
I
see
you
went
to
william
and
mary.
I
love
the
campus.
I've
been
down
there
many
times.
H
J
You,
mr
coghill,
stepping
in
here
for
councilman
smith,
so
I'll
ask
my
questions
from
while
I'm
here
cheering
until
councilman
smith
gets
back.
Welcome
it's
good
to
see
you
I'm
I'm
so
grateful
for
your
willingness
to
serve
the
city.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
say
that,
because
it's
it
is
a
labor
of
devotion
and
and
public
service
has
the
word
service
in
it.
We
are
in
service
to
our
citizens
and
I'm
again
many
of
the
questions
really
good.
J
Questions
were
asked
by
other
council
members,
so
I'm
gonna,
I
think,
mention
a
topic
that
we
haven't
touched
on
before.
That
is
just
really
important
to
me
and
often
relies
on
the
city
law
department
to
uphold
and
defend,
which
is
my
ardent
defense
of
the
public
ownership
of
our
water
system,
and
I
want
to
bring
that
up
because
you
were
probably
at
dukeen
light.
While
we
were
doing
those
fights
and
duking
light
expressed
its
desire
to
purchase
our
water
system.
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
privatization.
J
I'm
vehemently
against
privatization
of
city
assets
of
city
operations,
councilwoman
strasberger
chaired
a
post
agenda.
Some.
I
don't
know
how
many
years
now,
four
years,
maybe
at
this
table
on
privatization
and
its
meanings,
and
we
had
some
really
good
speakers,
one
from
california,
donald
cohen,
of
of
a
think,
tank
called
in
the
public
trust
and
he
educated
us
that
there
are
many
levels
to
privatization
and
he
had
them
in
rank
order
as
design
build
finance
operate,
maintain
when
you
get
into
the
leasing
of
city
assets
under
another's
operations.
C
C
I
know
a
lot
of
the
very
good
people
who
work
at
pwsa
and
I
think
they
have
done
an
excellent
job
of
trying
to
work
on
the
issues
that
they've
had
with
the
lead
in
pipes,
and
I
also
know
that,
under
the
oversight
of
the
public
utility
commission,
I
think
they
have
grown
leaps
and
bounds
in
their
ability
to
manage
their
public.
The
you
know
the
utility,
the
water
system
that
they
have
and
that's
the
important
part
right.
The
important
part
is
making
sure
that
we
have
safe
drinking
water
for
our
residents.
C
But
I
do
want
to
make
I
I
mean
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
pwsa
is
doing
an
excellent
job
right
now
of
of
their
work
and
and
although
they
still
have
things
to
do,
the
fact
is
they're
beating
their
timelines
and
they
are
working
really
hard,
and
so
I
I
think,
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
I
know
mine
itself.
I
had
high
lead
levels
in
my
water
and
then
the
last
couple
of
tests.
I've
had
those
numbers
have
dropped
to
a
much
lower
level,
much
safer
drinking
levels.
C
J
You
for
testing
your
water
and
we
still
do
offer
free
water
testing
and
people
can
call
pwc,
I'm
sure
councilman
strausberger
can
give
us
information.
It's.
I
think,
also
important
that
your
resume
includes
that
experience
with
the
the
federal
and
state
regulatory
environment.
So,
while
other
members
asked
about
your
specifically
municipal
law
experience,
we
only
exist
in
this
framework
yeah
that
is
granted
to
us
by
the
state
and
by
the
federal
government,
and
so
that's
part.
J
I
think
of
our
job
is
to
understand
our
jurisdiction
where
it
ends,
but
also
what
we
can
do
within
that
jurisdiction,
because
we
don't
do
all
the
things
we
can
do
and
I
think
maybe
you're
alluding
to
some
of
that
on
the
housing
and
affordability
and
vacant
properties
right
right,
so
really
really
having
a
fulsome
understanding.
Folsom
is
councilman.
Cross's
word
that
I
like
to
steal
because
he
uses
it
a
lot.
J
It's
a
really
robust
understanding
of
what
we
can
do
within
our
jurisdiction,
because
there
are
more
things
we
can
do
when
we
have
not
been
doing
them,
partly
because
of
austerity,
partly
because
of
other
choices
that
we've
made.
So
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
you
have
that
framework,
because
I
think
that
for
me,
that's
the
most
important
part
and
your
resume
clearly
shows
that
you've
managed
large
teams
and
a
large
number
of
cases
at
a
time.
J
J
What's
in
the
infrastructure
bill
at
the
federal
government
were
speaking
about
it
a
little
bit
today
at
council,
I
think
all
of
us
are
reading
those
new
rulings
out
on
the
final
rulings
on
what
is
allowed
and
to
be
expended,
and
do
you
can
speak
a
little
bit
to
any
of
the
experience
you
have
in
that
arena.
Yeah.
C
We
tracked
the
federal
infrastructure
legislation
very
closely
in
my
last
position.
So
from
the
beginning,
all
the
way,
through
we're
very
aware
of
the
implications
that
that
has
I
mean
specifically
for
cities
right
there
are
going
to
be
large
buckets
of
money
out
there.
That
really
need
to
be
taken
advantage
of
that.
There's
grant
funding
that's
available,
I'm
very
grateful
for
president
biden
who's,
who
you
know
when
he
came
here,
expressed
his
assistance
for
us
and
specifically
about
the
fern
hollow
bridge,
but
I
think
he
was
he.
C
He
spoke
more
broadly
about
all
of
our
infrastructure,
especially
our
bridges,
and
I
really
hope
that
we
can
take
full
advantage
of
that
and
the
law
department
is
happy
to
help
in
whatever
way
we
can
on
evaluating
it.
It
is
these
bills
are
set
up
mostly
for
public
entities
right
we,
and
so
it
is
the
public
entities
that
need
to
take
advantage.
It's
a
difficult
process
right.
A
federal
grant
process
is
not
an
easy
thing
to
do
so.
J
Of
experience
in
the
city
at
large,
not
just
in
city
government
but
in
the
in
the
residence
in
the
city
and
and
successfully
applying
for
federal
funding,
so
I
think
we're
well
situated
that
way,
and
it's
going
to
be
this
table's
job.
I
think
to
make
those
clear
priorities
of
what
what
we're
as
a
as
a
city
need
the
most
so
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
on
those
issues.
It's
very
exciting.
J
C
A
Thank
you
and
I
have
a
few
questions
left,
but
I
don't
know
if
anyone
asked
this,
why
I
was
out
of
the
rumor
during
the
course
of
this
meeting,
but
you
mentioned
the
agenda
that
you're
here
that
you
are
good
to
represent
an
agenda-driven
department.
So
I
know
that
mayor
gainey
ran
a
lot
on
the
upmc
lawsuit
and
that
sort
of
stuff
army.
No
one
asked:
do
you
have
any
opinions
or
comments
in
that
regard,.
C
C
Working
towards
that
everyone,
all
the
residents
of
of
pittsburgh,
no
matter
what
feel
safe
and
and
provided
for
in
their
homes-
I
don't
know
if
we've
come
to
a
decision
quite
frankly,
next,
on
on
how
what
I
will
say
is.
I
think
there
could
be
an
examination
of
non-profit
property
taxes
and
whether
or
not
they
should
be
paying
property.
Tax
nonprofits
should
be
paying
property
taxes
or
not,
but
that
issue
has
not
been
decided
at
this
point.
A
I'm
curious
as
to
you
know
what
nonprofits
would
be
coming
after
or
at
least
working
with
so
I'd
love.
To
have
that
conversation
I
think
that's
a
conversation
for
us
all
to
have
together,
because
when
you
talk
about
differing
opinions
and
agendas,
there
may
be
some
there.
You
know
with
some
of
that
yeah.
A
C
That's
a
very
good
point:
one
of
the
vacant
positions
is
an
associate
solicitor,
so
that
is
the
head
of
the
municipal
practice
group
and
that's
the
position
so
before
yvonne
hilton,
our
former
solicitor,
she
used
to
be
the
associate
solicitor.
She
kept
that
position
open
because
she
served
both
positions
while
she
was
solicitor,
so
she
was
both
solicitor
and
associate
solicitor
of
the
municipal
practice
group,
so
that
group
is
open
and
it's
a
very
good
point
I
should
have
brought
it
up
earlier.
C
Yeah,
council
president,
is
that
we
will
be
having
an
experienced
lawyer
who
comes
in
in
that
associate
lawyer
position.
It
may
be
somebody
from
the
group
quite
frankly,
because
we
will
be
open
to
both
internal
and
external
applications,
okay,
but
that
position
will
be
filled
with
someone
with
experience
on
the
municipal
law.
A
Okay-
and
I
I
thank
you
for
that-
and
that
to
me
that's
important,
because
I
think
that
fills
the
void
of
anything
that
anybody
might
think
there
may
be,
although
I
think
you
bring
a
wealth
of
experience
every
as
soon
as
I
heard
jim,
I
was
so
excited
to
be
honest
with
you,
so
I
think-
and
I
think
most
people
felt
that
way,
but
I
also
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
with
your
relationship,
the
law
department's
relationship.
First
of
all,
I
love
our
law
department.
A
So
I
think
we're
trying
to
draft
that.
So
I'd
love
for
you
to
be
able
to
talk
with
him.
I
want
to
make
sure
our
law
department's
also
responsive
to
our
clerk
when
she
sends
an
email,
she's
speaking
for
us,
okay,
and
so
I
think
that
she's
waiting
for
some
responses
on
several
things
right
now,
but
I
to
me
I
want
them
to
understand,
she
still
works
for
us.
They
still
work
for
us
and
you
know
it
takes
one
mayor
to
hire
people.
A
It
also
takes
five
members
of
council
to
un
undo
that,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
we
have.
You
know.
We
still
have
some
say
here,
even
though
you
know
we
respect
the
mayor.
We
want
to
want
to
give
him
the
administration
and
the
people
that
he
wants
to
support
the
table.
I
think
that
he
so
far
he's
he's
brought
a
lot
of.
A
You
know
somebody
back
in
the
neighborhood
and
some
vitality
back
to
a
community.
Some,
I
don't
know
if
we
could
do
that
with
other
departments,
but
I
know
right
now:
they
have
a
residency
and
that's
an
issue
for
our
residents
that
do
live
in
the
city,
so
it
might
be
some
way
to
some
way
to
balance
that
like
to
bring
them
back
into
the
city.
I
don't
know
the
other
thing
I
I
want
to
mention
is
I
heard
you
talk
about
the
the
tenants
and
helping
with
people
with
evictions
and
housing
and
affordable
housing.
A
All
that
one
of
the
things
we
are
not
talking
a
lot
about
is
landlords
that
are
affected
by
not
having
payments,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
them
that
are
contacting
our
offices
or
we're
hearing
or
seeing
them
on.
You
know
social
media,
some
of
them
buy
a
home
like
a
duplex
to
live
in
one
half
so
when
the
tenant's
not
paying
they
lose
their
home
too.
A
So
I
I
want
to
know
what
you
know
if
anything,
during
your
conversations,
if
you'll,
if
you
haven't,
bought
that
up
already,
if
you
at
least
bring
that
up
that
we
have
to,
it,
has
to
be
dual
purpose.
We
have
to
be
because,
if
we
chase
all
the
landlords
out
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
we're
chasing
affordable
housing
out
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
I
mean
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that
there
are
people
that
rent
that
can't
afford
to
buy
may
never
may
not
ever
want
to
buy.
A
C
A
C
I'll
be
careful
not
to
I
mean
I
I'll
be
careful
not
to
serve
in
any
conflicting
capacity.
So
I
certainly
if
something
conflict
comes
up
I'll
have
somebody
else
handle
it,
but
I
do.
I
will
tell
you,
I
think
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
the
area
that
I
think
could
be
helpful
in
resolving
issues.
Okay,.
A
H
You
know
when
you
talk
about
holding
retaining
the
young.
You
know
oral
whatever
new,
I
should
say
right,
new
the
tyrannies
that
come
about.
First
and
foremost,
they
get
experience
here.
You
know-
and
it
reminds
me
a
little
bit
of
our
police
situation,
where
we
have
officers
that
go
through
our
training
and
they
know
once
they
get
five
years
in
here.
They
can
pretty
much
go
to
any
suburb
and
probably
earn
twice
as
much
kind
of
the
same
thing.
H
You
know
on
a
smaller
scale
with
you,
we
are
losing
officers
at
an
alarming
rate
when
it
comes
to
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
I
think
you're
always
going
to
have
that
problem,
because
you
know
unless
they're
so
passionate
about
being
part
of
helping
the
city,
which
is
great,
but
I
think
it's
the
experience
that
drives
them
here,
and
you
know
you
probably
are
able
to
retain
them
for
four
or
five
years
and
then
some
law
firm
comes
knocking
and
they're.
Like
I'll
see
you
later
right.
Okay,
that's
thank
you.