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A
C
Sorry
sorry,
mr
chair,
I'm
here
I
couldn't
get
my
earbuds
plugged
in.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
order,
business
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
of
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
may
be
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted
once
you
recall,
please
restate
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
record.
You
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
Our
first
registered
speaker
is
les
ludwick.
E
E
E
E
E
F
Hey
good
morning,
thank
you
for
giving
me
opportunity
to
speak.
I
grew
up
in
pittsburgh.
F
Central
catholic
high
school,
born
and
bred
just
looking
at
this
oakland
crossing
project,
a
couple
of
questions,
I'm
concerned
about
traffic
and
storm
water
management.
F
Looking
at
project
wondering
if
there's
any
specific
engineering
studies
being
planned
for
or
that
are
completed
about
those
two
items
that
I
highlighted
or
any
other
could
be
under
the
nepa
process
or
or
just
independent.
But
if
you
could
help
me
out
with
some
information
on
those,
I
would
appreciate
it.
G
Dr
ronald
and
miller
bill
seuver
and
I'm
the
founder
of
the
center
for
global
studies,
international
interdisciplinary,
which
is
a
corporation
in
pennsylvania
and
and
new
york.
I
also
have
a
residence
in
timbuktu
mali,
where
there
was
a
university
long
before
the
europeans,
the
global
intelligence
society,
us
national
candidate
2024
for
the
presidency,
I'm
a
member
of
the
american
physical
society
in
june
2022
week.
Three
is
gis
african
intelligence
week,
dr
willie
hobbs,
moore.
G
Anybody
here
know
mr
lavelle,
who
she
is
or
was
she
was
the
first
black
african-american
phd
in
physics,
1972,
positive,
intersectional,
identity,
right
concern
of
pittsburgh.
City
council
is
with
stop
and
frisk
concern
of
myself
and
the
gis
is
with
pro
and
anti
information
on
stop
and
frisk.
Council
heard
an
anti-stop
frisk
research,
specialist
14
june
2022,
whom
the
council
meeting
presider
burgess
called
a
treasure,
but
this
informational
treasure
did
not
reference.
The
primary
local
and
national
pro-sf.
G
G
So
on,
stop
and
frisk
this
council,
the
treasured
expert
and
his
sponsor
from
the
black
political
empowerment
group
are,
in
my
view,
lawless
and
one-sided,
but
the
u.s,
governmental,
legislative
and
judicial
systems
are
not
one-sided,
but
you
know
are
oppositionally
two-sided.
G
So
where
is
council's
pro
and
khan
pro
and
anti
regarding
the
black
lives
matter
organization,
not
the
idea,
but
the
organization
and
critical
race
theory,
here's
a
reference.
It's
the
primary
reference,
kimberly,
crenshaw
mapping,
the
margins,
intersectionality
identity,
politics
and
violence
against
women
of
color,
stanford
law,
review,
1991.,
the
intersections
of
kirkpatrick
with
center
and
and
wiley
are
among
the
most.
This
is
this
defines
one
of
the
most
important
areas
in
the
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
what
is
the
inter-institutional
intersectional
k-c
dot,
w
linkage
regarding
blm.org
and
crt?
H
There
you
go,
I
had
something
all
planned
to
talk
about
the
bhv
revitalization
mess,
but
something
came
up
yesterday.
H
My
name
is
bernard
at
mosey
I
am
a
proud
mother
of
my
oldest
all
the
way
down
to
my
youngest
four
kids
all
served
the
city
as
lifeguards.
I
was
a
lifeguard
working
in
the
catskills
of
upstate
new
york.
My
mother
was
a
lifeguard.
H
H
She
prefers
to
cover
not
just
for
the
sun,
but
for
other
reasons
she
was
told
yesterday.
She
called
me
in
tears
because
she
had
to
uncover
that's
wrong.
I
reached
out
to
a
muslim
doctor
that
I
worked
with
at
mercy
hospital
and
asked
her
what
she
does
with
her
daughters.
She
showed
me
online.
I
purchased
that
shirt,
my
daughter's
wearing
it
trust
me
and
she's
not
going
to
get
fired.
H
H
H
J
J
The
pennsylvania
state
constitution
says
that
government
was
created
for
the
peace,
safety
and
happiness
of
we,
the
people,
decisions
and
essence
that
part
people
are
not
acceptable,
that
there
are
elected
and
appointed
officials
that
have
proven
themselves
to
the
enemies
of
bonaire.
That
is
not
advisable.
J
On
june
20th
2022,
the
detrimental
bonaire
school
built,
were
worsened
into
being
a
disruptive
and
nuisance
property.
We
have
objected
to
apartments
or
anything
other
than
a
green
space
to
replace
the
school
tear
it
down.
The
building
is
a
magnet
to
use
who
broke
in.
On
top
of
trespassing,
three
of
the
seven
had
to
be
escorted
out
of
the
building.
J
J
The
outcry
to
the
school
board
has
proven
futile,
put
pressure
on
them
to
sell
it
to
the
city
for
one
dollar
clear
it
down,
mayor,
jamie
councilwoman,
coghill
and
state
representatives,
and
them
have
all
pledged
to
help
bonaire
get
rid
of
our
detrimental
school
property
and
replace
it
with
a
green
space.
The
michael
mullen
memorial,
green
space
will
be
beneficial
to
all
ages
and
stages
of
people.
J
A
beautiful
calming
place
to
enjoy
fruit,
trees,
flowers
and
birds.
Will
the
rest
of
city
council
promote
the
peace,
safety
and
happiness
of
the
barn
air
neighborhood?
We,
the
property
owners,
say
no
to
reapportionment.
It
is
certainly
rejected
by
we,
the
people
of
bonaire.
It
would
only
create
harm
for
us.
There
is
no
benefit.
The
answer
is
no.
The
michael
mullen
memorial
green
space
is
a
partial
reparation
for
the
injuries
we've
endured
shady
trees,
not
shady
deal
and
bonaire.
K
K
These
are
the
topics
where
our
most
important
issues
lie,
details
of
which
are
in
our
letter
heights
lengths
massing
buildings
will
be
immensely
out
of
scale
with
the
adjacent
residential
areas
and
there's
no
context
for
these
mammoth
buildings,
two
loss
of
residential
compatibility
and
removal
of
the
oakland
public
realm
d.
This
will
place
those
immense
buildings
closer
to
homes.
These
two
issues
will
result
in
oak
cliff
being
walled
off
along
the
boulevard
of
the
allies
and
coal.
Tart
avenue
will
become
a
canyon.
K
K
Five
uses
most
of
what
the
developer
desires,
more
density,
a
grocery
store,
better
pedestrian
experience
can
be
done
with
the
current
oprd,
except
not
to
the
extreme
dimensions,
walnut
capital
ones,
educational
classroom,
space
and
transit
facility
do
not
belong
in
ucmu
6.,
affordable
housing.
It
needs
to
be
tied
to
ami
to
be
truly
affordable
housing,
not
vouchers
that
may
conveniently
not
be
available.
K
7.
performance,
0.6
system,
giving
points
for
what
code
requires
and
not
being
able
to
get
maximum
height
without
using
points
that
are
most
beneficial
to
residents
is
not
acceptable.
The
point
system
needs
a
complete
review
with
resident
input
and
a
reasoned
approach.
Eight.
All
of
this
leads
to
a
loss
of
neighborhood
character
and
feeling
of
being
in
oakland
nine.
There
has
been
a
lack
of
regard
for
resident
input
10..
K
L
Hi
sorry,
my
name
is
andrea
boykowicz.
I
live
at
3439,
parkview
avenue
in
central
oakland
and
I'm
the
assistant
director
at
oakland
planning
and
development
corporation.
I'm
here
to
ask
you
again,
as
you
discuss
and
consider
council
bill
2021-1906
to
avoid
setting
a
bad
precedent
by
passing
this
bill.
Instead,
you
should
pass
the
ucmu
zoning
that
the
planning
commission
is
recommending
to
you
as
part
of
the
oakland
plan,
for
those
of
you
who
might
still
believe
2021-1906
is
necessary
or
appropriate.
L
The
process
by
which
this
bill
was
introduced
and
by
which
it
has
been
amended
and
negotiated,
is
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
Deeply.
Weird
and
approval
of
this
bill
is
approval
of
that
arcane
and
questionable
process
pass
this
bill,
and
you
signal
to
your
own
neighborhoods
and
residential
communities
that
they
are
for
sale
and
that
the
zoning
that
protects
them
is
subject
to
change
at
political
whim.
The
residential
opposition
is
unimportant
that
neighborhood
planning
rationale
is
unnecessary
and
that
the
department
of
safety
planning
is
a
political
tool.
L
L
At
last
week's
meeting,
the
last
minute
amendment
extending
the
allowable
sidewalk
facing
facade
length
from
400
feet
to
425
feet
was
passed
amidst
confusion
and
against
the
recommendations
of
the
planning
commission.
If
action
is
taken
on
this
bill
today,
it
should
be
to
send
it
back
to
the
planning
commission
for
reconsideration
or
to
table
it
indefinitely.
M
M
I
have
spoken
at
length
many
times
and
written
all
of
you
about
the
need
to
have
an
amendment
regarding
the
airbnb
to
be
a
primary
resonance.
This
is
super
common
in
many
many
cities
across
the
country
in
philadelphia
in
denver,
I'm
traveling
out
to
seattle
this
weekend
for
a
marathon,
I
was
looking
up
their
legislation
just
out
of
curiosity
and
they
allow
a
primary
residence
as
well
as
a
secondary
unit
for
an
airbnb.
M
The
reason
why
primary
residence
is
so
important
is
because
in
a
lot
of
these
cities-
and
sometimes
things
happen,
a
little
slower
in
pittsburgh.
As
you
all
know,
corporations
are
buying
up
communities
and
it
is
happening
now,
as
we
speak
on
mount
washington,
they're,
buying
up
regular
houses
and
turning
them
into
an
airbnb
strictly
for
their
profits,
and
they
are
kicking
out
long-term
residents
of
that
community
and
is
creating
instability
in
the
community.
M
When
you
start
turning
over
the
community
over
to
the
corporations,
you
create
more
instability,
and
that
is
not
what
the
goal
of
the
airbnb
legislation
is
is
to
create
stability
in
the
community,
and
I
did
read
the
amendment
that
you
proposed
bobby
wilson.
It
was
very
weak
in
its
language.
Didn't
really
add
much.
In
fact,
it
also
took
out
the
usage
around
multi-units,
leaving
it
very
gray.
The
multi-units
is
a
really
big
issue,
because
if
you
have
a
place,
that's
30
40
units
all
around
airbnbs.
M
That
is
really
a
hotel
and
neighbors.
I
can
tell
you
definitively
in
mount
washington
where
this
is
happening.
Amount
on
multi-units
do
not
want
that
because
it's
not
zoned
for
a
hotel,
so
you
need
to
do
the
right
thing
for
the
community
and
add
the
two
amendments
which
around
the
primary
residence
and
also
really
reconsider
the
usage
of
a
multi-unit
on
airbnbs.
M
And
lastly,
as
an
aside,
I
was
here
for
the
whole
standing
committee
last
week
and
it
was
a
little
bit
disappointing
that
whole
back
and
forth
around
the
whole
sponsorship
of
the
bill
and
this
and
that
just
you
all
need
to
get
your
act
together
and
be
a
team
on
this.
Because
you're
all
democrats,
we
don't
need
more
confusion
around
democracy
in
our
system
and
lastly,
there
was
a
man
here
that
spoke.
He
was
homeless.
He
brought
his
bags
here.
His
name
was
william.
M
A
A
N
My
name
is
yvonne,
f
brown.
I
live
in
the
hill
district
at
715
bracket
red
street.
Now
I
brought
this
sign
yesterday
and
I
didn't
show
it,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
I
show
it
today
and
this
sign
is
whenever
you
started
the
meeting
the
last
time
when
this
is
in
2017
oprah's
walk.
This
was
the
woman
that
started
to
make
juneteenth
and
national
holiday
2017..
N
She
finally
got
it
made
this
year.
She
was
oprah's
rock
walk.
She
even
had
a
website
because
she
was
walking
to
washington
dc
with
the
petitions.
When
she
came
to
my
church,
I
went
and
spoke
to
her.
I
told
her.
I
was
an
advocate
for
children,
youth,
family
hospital
workers
and
seniors.
She
asked
me
to
please
come
down
and
ask
you
to
to
to
back
this
petition
and
she
made
it
a
law.
She
was
here
in
in
bethel.
Do
you
understand?
N
I
met
this
she's
a
little
lady
talks
very
softly,
but
she's
very
determined.
You
see
she
was
from
2017
to
2020.
She
got
this
juneteenth
a
national
holiday.
The
children
need
to
understand
why
she
was
pushing
for
this.
What
had
happened
is
the
slaves
had
been
freed
two
years
before
this.
There
was
a
sergeant
that
I
mean
it
was
an
army
general
that
came
and
freed
them
after
abraham
lincoln
had
even
wrote
the
emancipation
proclamation.
N
So
for
two
years
they
were
working
as
slaves
and
were
not
taught
about
what's
happening
or
what
has
happened.
That's
why
I
come
down
here,
city
council,
because
you
need
to
know
these
things
that
are
happening
in
our
community.
Also.
Today,
I
want
to
deviate.
Today
is
nikoia
my
grandbaby's
birthday,
she's
21
years
old.
She
was
raised
here
in
city
council.
She
came
to
every
meeting
as
a
baby.
Mr
mr
well,
the
councilman
you
know
sometime,
I
try
to.
N
I
only
got
three
minutes
and
I
try
to
put
everything
I
can,
and
sometimes
it
might
be
confusing
confusing
to
you.
So
I
try
to
come
back
the
next
week
if
I
can
straighten
it
out.
I
want
you
to
understand
that.
I
feel
that
this
is
my
chambers
me
and
every
citizen
that
comes
in
here
also.
I
must
say
that
I
was
sent
down
to
city
council
by
fanny
brown
a
88
year
old,
lady
who's
being
terrorized
up
in
katy
with
ervis.
N
A
A
A
All
right
yeah,
he
may
have
an
older
version,
I'm
not
sure,
what's
happening
so
we'll
need
to
move
forward
and,
if
he's
still
with
us
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
I'll
try
to
go
back
to
him
again.
Just
so
council
members
are
aware.
I
do
expect
us
to
be
joined
by
deputy
mayor
jake
when
he
shows
in
chambers
I'll
go
out
of
order
to
take
that
bill.
But
our
first
committee
of
the
day
is
councilman.
A
D
A
D
So,
mr
chair,
may
I
invite
deputy
mayor
pollock
to
the
table.
A
O
Sure
I
think
you
know
largely
the
the
general
topic
of
this
legislation
was
discussed
last
week,
which
members
will
have
questions.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
those.
But
I
just
specifically
like
to
address
the
amendment
which
you
just
offered,
which
was
developed
in
in
consultation
with
the
zoning
administrator
to
arrive
at
what
you
had
indicated
last
week,
councilman
krauss
that
you
headed
over
to
see,
which
is
a
more
limited
extension
of
the.
O
So
making
this
allowance
is,
I
think,
a
way
to
arrive
at
the
goals
that
have
been
laid
out
without
overly
broadly
extending
building
links
to
other
parts
of
the
zone.
So
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
the
specifics
of
the
amendment
and
to
make
sure
council
members
were
aware
that
it
was
drafted
in
consultation.
Actually
was
it
was
prepared
by
the
zoning
administrator
as
a
way
to
arrive
at
the
goal
that
you
had
laid
out
beyond
that?
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
further
questions
that
members
have
for
discussion.
Thank
you.
D
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I'm
going
to
reiterate
many
of
the
comments
that
I
made
a
week
ago.
No
member
here
at
this
table
sponsored
this
bill.
C
Bill's
come
over
two
ways
from
an
administration
or
from
they
come
over
either
from
an
administration
right,
there's
literally
a
mayor's
agenda
that
is
required
by
homeworld
charter
to
be
emailed
or
delivered
to
the
city
clerk
by
noon.
On
friday,
this
bill,
2021
from
the
year
2021
build
1906,
came
over
in
mayor
peduto's
legislative
packet.
C
Last
week
there
was
some
discussion
about,
or
some
observation
I
think,
about
the
difference
between
the
word
sponsor
and
introduce
and
initiate,
and
whether
council,
of
course,
is
the
arbiter
of
zoning,
in
that
we
have
to
vote
on
it,
which
is
why
I'll
be
voting.
No
today
on
1906.
C
But
this
was
a
zoning
map
amendment
sponsored
by
a
mayor,
and
that
is
not
allowed
by
our
ordinance.
The
an
administration
can
initiate
zoning
changes,
like
our
planning
department,
is
busy
doing
right
now
right.
Our
planning
department
works
on
our
comprehensive
plan
once
they
work
on
suggestions
for
zoning
changes
and
map
changes.
C
I've
personally
sponsored
map
changes,
they've
gone
through
all
of
the
process
that
needed
to
happen
for
public
process,
they've
we've
held
and
referred
to
planning,
commission,
etc.
But
no
member
here
sponsored
this
bill
and
it
did
not
go
through
the
rigor
that
it
should
have
before
it
got
to
our
table,
and
so
I
I
again
as
some
people
in
public
comment
have
said,
and
I
have
said
repeatedly.
C
Second,
complaint:
having
seen
zoning
legislation
sponsored
by
the
planning
department
and
gone
through
all
the
appropriate
steps
like
the
river,
like
riverfront,
interim
planning,
overlay
district
and
then
the
permanent
base
zoning
changes
to
the
riverfront
which
most
members
here,
not
all
members,
but
a
lot
of
members
on
council
experienced
that
was
not
just
a
bunch
of
words
on
a
piece
of
paper
sent
over
from
a
mayor's
packet
on
a
friday
to
council
without
public.
You
know
proper
process
through
the
planning
department
and
the
planning
commission
before
it
got
to
our
table.
C
Moreover,
again
the
second
point:
we
were
very
careful
about
how
we
made
amendments
and
whether
amendments
could
be
made
after
the
public
process
of
planning
commission.
Similarly,
with
inclusionary
zoning
we've
talked
to
many
attorneys,
we
had
many
discussions
about
what
could
be
amended
and
what
could
not
be
amended
and
what
constitutes
substantive
amendments.
C
I
think
that
we
have
seen
now
repeated
amendments
to
this
legislation
and
that
that's
fine
counselors
should
be
able
to
amend,
but
that
it
resets
the
public
process
back
to
planning
commission,
and
so
I
I
think
that
you
know
with
members
supporting
substantial
amendments
here.
That
is
the
next
step.
C
C
C
What
do
you
see
yeah?
Do
you
see
this
here?
This
is
september
21st
2021,
that
was
a
friday.
This
is
the
friday
packet
from
mayor
peduto
to
our
city
clerk
and
what
I'm
highlighting
here
number
1.02,
because
it
doesn't
have
a
number
from
our
clerk.
Yet
is
mayor
peduto
sending
over
the
text
of
this
legislation.
1906.
C
The
packet
planning
sends
so
what
happened
wrongly
was
that
the
mayor
sent
that
over
we
held
and
sent
for
review
and
recommendation
from
planning
commission
planning
commission
did
that
public
process
took
public
comment,
took
a
vote,
sent
it
over
only
with
conditions
right,
and
I
believe
that
the
legislation
in
front
of
us
does
not
match
the
planning
commission's
recommendations
and
just
a
couple
of
things-
and
I
have
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
don't
represent
this
area.
I
haven't
been
at
the
table
in
discussions.
C
C
That
there
is
a
lot
of
detail
that
happens
that
I
you
know
in
my
own
district,
when
I'm
engaged
with
the
conversation
on
a
bill
every
day
with
the
community.
I
admit
that
I've
not
been
part
of
the
kind
of
daily
conversation
and
feedback
from
the
community,
but
we've
heard
a
fair
bit
of
public
comment,
both
at
planning,
commission
and
here
at
council
and,
for
example,
one
of
the
conditions
for
the
positive
recommendation
was
to
limit
the
building
lengths
to
400
feet,
and
I
believe
that
the
bill
in
front
of
us
has
4.25.
C
There
are
lots
of
details
that
I'm
sure
that
councilman
krauss
knows
that.
I
don't
because
it's
again
been
involved
in
a
much
much
closer
daily
conversation
about
it
with
the
constituents
and
with
all
the
interested
parties.
C
But
that's
that's
one
example
that
it
looks
to
me
that
the
bill,
as
amended
in
front
of
us,
would
need
a
super
majority
of
council
to
override
these
conditions,
because
without
meeting
the
conditions,
it's
a
negative
recommendation,
and
so
for
those
reasons
I
believe
this
bill
should
probably
be
at
least
I
would
say
to
be
tabled
because
there
has
been
a
parallel
path.
This
is
the
first
fourth
point:
our
own
planning
department
was
doing
all
of
the
things
that
are
supposed
to
happen
by
code.
C
C
So
the
oakland
plan
has
been
on
this
crazy
parallel
path,
as
it
should
be
happening,
and
this
to
me
looked
like
a
an
effort
by
a
mayor
to
get
around
it,
and
so
now
that
they're
at
this,
like
convergence,
point
of
timing
and
the
oakland
plan,
has
cleared
planning
commission
and
it
may
have
arrived
at
our
desk
already.
In
fact,
let
me
ask
madam
clerk
matt
clark.
If
you're
there
have
you
received
the
the
oakland
plan
from
planning
commission
for
council's
review.
C
C
Okay,
but
we
will
be
receiving
it
any
day
so
because
then
it
comes
to
council
right
and
that's
the
path.
That's
supposed
to
happen.
Planning
department
does
its
work,
not
developers
and
their
attorneys
planning
department
does
their
work.
C
It
gets
reviewed
by
planning
commission
for
zoning
changes
and
then
it's
referred
to
counsel
and
that's
that's
happening,
so
I
probably
I
think
that
we
should
probably
do
what
other
public
commenters
have
suggested
in
in
not
pushing
this
bill
through
and
doing
having
showing
respect
to
the
community,
the
planning
department
and
the
planning
commission
and
and
holding
this
pending,
our
review
of
the
the
oakland
plan.
C
So
I
I
will
be
voting
now
today,
as
well
as
as
I
did
last
week
and
that
I'll
I'll
stop
there.
Mr
chair,
thank
you.
S
I
was
waiting
to
see
if
there
would
be
any
response
to
that.
So
apologies
for
the
delay.
For
my
part,
I
will
say
that
I
too
share
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
many
different
people
about
the
path
that
this
legislation
took
and
its
origins,
and
I
don't
wish
to
see
that
replicated
again.
I'm
grateful
to
councilman
krauss
for
him
and
his
staff
and
the
countless
hours
he's
put
into
this
to
make
it
as
positive
a
bill
as
possible
and
for.
S
S
We
need
more
housing
period
and
what
better
place
for
this
than
in
the
second
largest
metro
area
in
the
commonwealth,
oakland,
especially
where
we
have
an
increasing
population
and,
as
we've
seen
from
the
coverage
of
our
stalled
rental
registry
program,
a
need
to
get,
as
you
know,
different
types
of
residents,
but
especially
students
who
are
living
off
campus
out
of
dangerous
and
unhealthy
living
conditions
and
situations
and
into
healthy
units.
S
Everyone
deserves
a
healthy
and
safe
place
to
live
and
too
many
of
the
rental
units
in
oakland
are
not
that
more
housing
for
for
more
different
types
of
people
is
what
is
needed
and
and
the
grocery
store
and
other
amenities.
This
is
the
exact
right
type
of
project
for
this
area.
S
So
just
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
about
why
I'm
supporting
this
today
and
thanks
to
to
those
who
have
been
really
doing
the
the
work
to
bring
people
together
and
to
make
this
happen.
I
appreciate
it.
T
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
appreciate
the
all
the
feedback
that
we've
had,
and
I
appreciate
that
councilman
gross
is
such
an
advocate
for
the
community,
but
I
also
know
councilman
krauss
is
a
strong
advocate
for
his
community
and
has
been
doing
a
tremendous
job
trying
to
find
some
middle
ground
here,
and
I
think
the
guinea
administration
has
done
a
great
job.
Stepping
in
and
trying
to
bring
some
sense
make
some
sense
of
this
all.
T
As
somebody
who
was
born
and
raised
in
oakland,
I
can
tell
you
that
I've
spoken
to
a
lot
of
residents
who
haven't
come
forward
in
terms
of
public
comment,
a
lot
of
people
that
put
their
blood,
sweat
and
tears
in
making
oakland
what
it
is
today
and
making
it
a
desirable
neighborhood,
and
they
have
all
everyone.
I've
spoken
with,
has
have
spoken
in
favor
of
this
development
because
they
have
put
in
invested
a
lot
in
that
community.
T
They
actually
live
in
the
community,
unlike
some
of
the
people
that
we've
heard
coming
forward,
and
unlike
some
of
the
people
working
on
the
plan,
they
actually
live
in
that
neighborhood
have
lived
in.
That
neighborhood
have
invested
that
neighborhood
their
families
before
them
when
they
were
forced
some
of
them.
Many
of
us
were
forced
out
of
the
hill
they
moved
to
that
area
and
when
they
moved
to
that
area,
they
put
their
blood,
sweat
and
tears.
T
What
that's
who
I'm
listening
to
the
people
who,
I
know
have
made
oakland
such
a
desirable
neighborhood
and
honestly,
I
think
a
lot
of
them
would
even
move
back
to
an
area
if
they
had
a
decent
housing.
I
I
took
a
drive
there,
the
other
day
with
my
husband
as
we
we
often
do,
because
we
still
have
friends
in
the
area
and
just
driving
through
it.
T
It
looked
like
it
was
just
the
whole
area,
south
oakland,
all
all
looked
like
it
was
just
student
housing
now
and
it
used
to
be
an
area
where
you
could
raise
a
family
and
live
there
in
single-family
homes
and
I'd
love
to
see
that
with
this
development
return
to
that
area,
at
least
in
part.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
that
those
are
the
reasons
I
do
hear
some
of
the
concerns,
and
everyone
knows,
I'm
not
a
fan
of
all
the
things
that
the
developers
do
in
the
city.
T
I
don't
even
sit
in
the
meetings
because
I'm
not
very
good
with
them,
but
I
do
know
that
with
oakland
the
people
from
oakland
that
I
care
tremendously
about
what
they're
saying
and
so
for
that
I'll
vote
in
favor.
Thank
you.
A
C
Thank
you,
did
you
say
I
could
go
mr
chair,
I
couldn't.
C
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
so
I
I
I
spoke
last
week
about
density.
I
think
there
are
two
points
that
people
are
making
about:
housing,
one
that
this
plan,
the
1906
mayor-sponsored
plan,
somehow
increases
density,
but
the
oakland
plan
that
we're
waiting
on
does
not,
and
that
is
not
true.
C
As
far
as
I
understand
again,
I
certainly
don't
represent
the
area
and
haven't
been
at
the
table,
but
it's
my
impression
that
the
oakland
plan
has
a
like
the
same
increase
in
density,
so
it
doesn't
really
speak
to
passing
this
bill
today,
rather
than
waiting
for
the
oakland
plan.
But
there
is
a
second
point.
I
think
that
some
members
and
some
members
of
the
public
have
spoken
to,
which
is
that
that
current
housing
is
substandard
and
that
that
it
needs
to,
you
know,
be
inspected
that
it
is.
C
We
don't
want
people
living
in
unhealthy
conditions,
and
I
concur
is
demolishing
it
and
building
the
high
rises
proposed
here.
The
only
way
to
improve
housing.
No,
it
is
not
so
it's
an
option
for
changing
housing
to
demolish.
O
C
Kind
of
urban
renewal
way
right.
This
feels
to
me
like
urban
renewal,
2022
or
just
so.
I
you
know,
tear
it
all
down
and
build
this
shiny
thing
that
someone
makes
a
lot
of
money
off
of
it
doesn't
mean
it
will
be
more
dense.
Frankly,
so,
while
the
oakland
plan
and
the
night
built
mayor
sponsored
1906
plan,
you
know.
U
C
A
similar
level
of
density
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
will
be
more
dense.
I
would
still
like
someone
to
convince
me
that
this
new
construction,
I
see
actual
projections
of
the
footprints,
the
fars,
the
required
amounts
of
parking
and
the
heights
and
how
many
units
you
could
actually
put
in
here.
I
go
again
into.
C
Into
this
footprint
could
actually
be
more
dense
than
you
know.
This
is
10
000.
This
dark
darker
blue
is
10
000
or
more
people
per
square
mile
and
down
here,
even
where
people
are
saying
it's,
you
know
not
dense
enough
and
it's
not.
It
needs
to
be
up
zoned
even
on
these
steep
slopes
here
that
there
it's
currently
5
000
to
10
000
people
per
square
mile,
that's
very
dense
compared
to
parts
of
the
city
and
it's
definitely
very
dense
compared
to
parts
of
allegheny
county.
C
So
this
is
what
wage
has
a
very
sensitive
milestone
waves
throughout,
but
you
can
see
what
I'm
talking
about
right.
So
you
know,
I
think
the
us
is
an
average
of
5
000
people
per
square
mile,
so
we're
well
over
that
and
and
definitely
at
levels
that
support
the
transit
that
we're
looking
for.
So
while
we
might
want
to
improve
the
conditions
of
the
current
housing
which
doesn't
require
demolishing
it
and
replacing
it,
but
I
think
it's
a
really
good
goal
to
improve
the
conditions
of
the
housing
there.
C
C
Frankly
right,
and
so
you
have
like,
I
have
in
much
of
my
district
very
similar
period,
housing
where
you
know
it
is
in
high
demand
right
in
in
central
lawrenceville
and
lower
lawrenceville,
even
upper
lawrenceville,
even
though
there's
a
lot
of
demolition
there
and
years
gone
by
and
there's
some
new
construction,
but
those
I
have
areas
that
are
no
vacancy,
very
high
density.
In
my
district,
they
were
built
in
the
1860s
1870s,
where
the
entire
property
is
12
feet
wide
12
feet.
C
Well,
very,
very
narrow
homes
that
are
in
high
demand
and
people
are
happy
to
live
there
and
so,
and
they
didn't
require
you
know,
people
renovated
them
and
or
didn't
and
have
lived
there
for
three
generations.
So
there
is
more
than
one
way
to
achieve
density.
These
these
neighborhoods
were
built
be
largely
before
people
own
cars,
and
they
were
built
with
high
density
to
allow
people
access
to
the
trolley
car
lines
right,
that's
how
these
these
neighborhoods
were
shaped.
C
So
I'm
a
skeptic
at
that
that
this,
like
2022
version
of
urban
renewal,
is
going
to
achieve
higher
densities,
and
I
would
have
to
have
someone
show
me
show
me
that
so
okay
density
totally
support
it,
not
sure
it's
going
to
happen
and
proven
the
conditions
absolutely
supported,
but
that
doesn't
require
that
the
area
be
demolished.
C
The
third
thing
I
heard
was
that
there
is
a
a
desire
to
see
fa
and
an
increase
in
family
housing.
Well,
I
don't
see
that
in
the
oakland
in
the
mayor's
sponsor
in
1906..
C
So
someone,
mr
pollock,
would
you
like
to
point
that
out?
I'm
finally
going
to
ask
you
a
question.
Thank
you
for
being
at
the
table,
but
do
you
see
that
and
could
you
point
that
out
to
me,
where
is
the
family
housing
and
the
mayor
sponsored
1906.
O
In
in
the
zoning
language,
it's
it's
itself,
there's
no
specific
provision
for
that.
An
array
of
housing,
densities
or
housing
types
are
permitted.
O
If
you're
asking
about
the
proposed
development,
the
open
crossings,
development
proposal-
it
is
apartment
units-
I
I
don't
know
the
exact
floor
plans
of
them
all,
but
but
I
would
acknowledge
to
your
point
that
there
are
not
you
know,
attached
or
detached
houses
for
rather
apartments
for
folks.
So
I
suppose
it's
somewhat
subject
to
interpretation
as
to
whether
those
are
family
units
or
not.
But
but
I
acknowledge
your
point
that
it's
an
apartment.
C
Are
there
requirements
for
units
to
have
more
than
one
bedroom.
O
I
don't
recall
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
believe
there
may
be
others
on
the
call
who
could
answer
that.
If
not,
I
can
get
you
an
answer.
C
Thank
you.
Here's
why
I
asked,
because
I
had
a
project
that
was
a
nine
percent
li
tech
fully
deeply
affordable,
100,
affordable
building
built
on
I
mean
in
my
district.
This
happened.
I
didn't
have
build
it
myself
by
action.
Housing
at
penn
avenue
in
matilda,
which
is
in
bloomfield,
and
we
had
many
community
meetings
and
action.
Housing
rather
than
just
build
for
into
like
single
residents,
did
really
great
research
and
because
it
was
a
building
that
had
a
preference
for
veterans.
C
They
set
aside
as
chair
of
the
units
to
not
be
one
bedrooms,
because
it's
hard
to
keep.
You
know
your
kids
right
in
a
crowded
condition
right,
and
so,
when
you're,
if
you're
fighting
for
custody,
I
mean
it
kind
of
becomes
an
issue
right
and
so
some
of
the
units
they
built
with
two
bedrooms
so
that
families
could
live
in
them,
and
I
think
that
that
would
be.
That
would
also
be
something
that
if
the
community
wants
and
members
are
supportive
of
having
requirements
for
family
living,
which
is
very
helpful
for
some
people.
C
Honestly
again,
I
have
this.
Our
districts
are
not
that
different
and
certainly
councilman
cross,
and
I
don't
differ
so
much
in
our
outlook.
Some
things
we
have
a
lot
in
common
that
there
be
accommodation
if
and
so
you
that
has
to
be
insured
in
the
allowable
construction
and
certainly,
if
there's
going
to
be
any
incentives
in
place
that
that
can
be
an
ask
and
a
requirement
that
is
put
into
place
right.
I
I
have
seniors
and
I
have
families,
certainly
people
with
disabilities.
C
You
know
the
original
style
pittsburgh
single
family
dwelling
with
my
dessert
four
sets
of
steps,
often
right
because
it's
your
basement
and
three
stories
up
on
these
narrow
lots,
especially
are
not
conducive
living,
for
you
know,
easy
accessible
living
for
a
lot
of
our
households,
and
so
I
can
imagine
that
being
the
case,
but
that's
not
in
here,
so
it
may
be
wishful
thinking
that
it
would
be
nice
if
it
was
there,
but
I
don't
see
it
there.
C
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
if,
if
it
is
what
people
are
wishing
for,
something
else
needs
to
happen.
So,
mr,
I
think
I
made
my
four
points
there,
so
I
will.
I
will
also
save
my
time.
Thank
you.
A
R
A
Affirmative
recommendation,
thank
you
very
much.
We
will
now
go
back
to
our
first
committee
of
the
day,
which
is
finance
and
law
which
is
chaired
by
myself.
We
have
one
new
paper
bill,
452
bill.
P
T
P
T
S
A
S
A
P-Cards
are
approved,
need
a
motion
to
no
excuse
me
that
takes
us
to
our
public
safety
services
committee
chaired
by
councilman
o'connor.
One
supplemental
paper
bill
481
bill.
P
481
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
public
safety
to
enter
on
behalf
of
the
city
into
a
lease
agreement
or
agreements
with
the
community
college
of
allegheny
county
for
the
property
located
at
900
and
918
north
lincoln
avenue.
The
lease
agreement
shall
be
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
2
million
forty
147
thousand
eight
hundred
eighty
six
dollars
and
twenty
four
cents.
O
V
Explain
what
we're
spending
the
money
on
and
then
being
in
councilman
wilson's
district
I'll
pass
it
off
to
him
interdistrict
and.
V
I
Sure
this
is
a
so
we
presently
have
a
lease
with
ccac
to
that's
where
the
police
training
academy
is
located
on
the
north
side,
and
this
is
simply
a
renewal.
It's
it's
listed
as
a
new
agreement,
but
it's
going
to
be
under
the
same
terms
as
the
old
one,
with
a
similar
rate
as
the
old
one.
So.
W
Currently,
we
use
ccac
as
our
training
academy
for
new
recruits
that
are
are
hard
to
get
them
their
their
training
and
get
them
opec
certified.
We
also
do
in-service
training,
defensive
tactics.
We
also
have
a
computer
lab
for
other
training
purposes,
meetings
and
so
forth,
and
we
also
host
citizens,
police
academy
and
other
events
and
train
other
city
employees
at
the
academy.
W
R
V
And
then
I'll
pass
it
out
to
councilman
wilson
that
the
term
it
doesn't
say
in
the
unless
it's
in
the
the
actual
longer
version
of
the
bill,
how
many
years
is
it
it's
for
another
five
years.
I
I
Q
T
T
T
This
is
not
your
decision,
but
I
want
to
say
that
my
concern
has
been
that
we
are
spending
this
money
on
leasing
instead
of
purchasing
and
building
and
doing
what
we
need
to
do
for
the
public
safety
training
facility.
I
know
everybody's
going
to
say:
what's
going
with
the
money
and
right
now
we
have
to
do
something
more
immediate
and
on,
but
you
know
I'm
looking
at
this
versus.
I
mean
millions
of
dollars
to
ccac
a
building.
T
The
public
already
pays
for
and
now
we're
using
more
public
dollars
to
pay
for
this
facility,
and
so
I
think
my
questions
are
more
towards,
and
I
think
I
don't
know
if
director
pollock's
on
here
or
not,
but
I
don't
feel
comfortable
voting
for
this
again
in
five
years-
is
a
lot
of
money.
I
mean
was
two
million
dollars
a
year?
Is
that
what
it
is.
T
400,
okay,
two
million
total
okay,
but
I
I
really
don't
feel
comfortable
voting
for
this
again,
because
I
think
the
more
we
do
this,
the
more
we're
gonna
continue
to
do
this.
I
don't
see
a
way
out
of
this
unless
we're
gonna
start
putting
money
towards
the
training
facility,
and
I
know
that
director
pollock
said
that
they
are
committed
to
doing
that
and
committed
to
putting
the
money
forward,
but
I
I
just
I
I'm
gonna.
I
just
have
a
lot
of
concern
with
leasing
this
again.
T
T
T
I
know-
and
you
have
to
have
something
in
between
in
the
meantime-
and
I
do
understand
that
I
just
feel
like
here-
we
are
again
spending
more
money
on
on
property
that
we
don't
own.
We
own
a
lot
of
facilities
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
I
do
think
ccac
is
already
paid
for
by
the
taxpayers,
and
so
I
and
by
the
people
attending
school
there,
and
so
I
just
I'm
not
sure
how
I'm
going
to
vote
for
I'll,
probably
abstain
today
and
get
additional
information
and
get
a
better
level
of
comfort.
T
Because
right
now
I
don't
have
that.
Thank
you
and
I
want
to
thank
you
what
a
day
to
come
to
the
table
your
first
day
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
start
questioning
stuff
about
what
you're
doing.
But
I
know
that
this
is
not
your
doing
that.
This
is
something
more
administrative
at
this
point
that
they
have
to
make
some
decisions.
Q
W
It
would
be
the
police
recruits
currently
we're
still
doing
some
in-service
training,
defensive
tactics,
scenario
based
training
and
and
other
other
training
right
now,
with
the
the
veterans
that
are
here
on
the
force.
Now,
the
plan
is
to
hire
classes
and
begin
at
least
a
basic
recruit
class
and
a
veteran
recruit
class.
W
V
Q
Yeah,
I
guess
it'd
be
good
to
know
when
you
know.
If
there's
going
to
be
a
class,
I
guess
majority
of
the
the
the
building
would
be
empty.
W
Well,
it's
currently
occupied
right
now
we
still
are
doing
training
classes.
W
Q
Okay
also
we're
this
is
just
a
rental,
but
we're
supposed
to
the
plan
is
to
go
up
to
the
old
va
site,
that's
correct,
yeah,
and
so
what's
the
timeline
on
that,
I
know
you
probably
don't
have.
Q
Q
And
the
va
you
know
when
that
build
would
be
done
so,
okay,
yeah,
I
mean
I
guess
I
just
have
concerns
over
who's
gonna
be
using
the
building
the
bulk
of
the
time
in
the
next,
since
we
don't
have
any
confirmation
on
when
classes
are
currently.
W
The
veterans
are
using
the
the
building.
Currently
we're
going
undergoing
defensive
tactics.
Training
can.
Q
D
I
got
called
away
by
a
phone
call,
acting
chief
stan
grecky
good
morning,
good.
W
D
First,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
your
quick
response.
Yesterday,
yeah
and
around
the
incident
orange
street
bowling
greatly
appreciate
your
professionalism
and
how
you
handle
that.
Thank
you.
D
Secondly,
forgive
me,
but
I
do
believe
this
is
a
budgeted
expenditure.
That's
coming
out
of
the
out
of
our
approval
of
the
budget.
This
past
fall.
I
I
shared
the
concerns
with
council
president
kale
smith.
I
think
I've
made
my
myself
clear
about
my
commitment
to
the
training
facility
and
and
what
I
I
believe
that
brings
to
to
to
not
oversimplify
but
to
the
safety
of
our
officers.
D
Training
is
everything
and
I
I
will
always
advocate
for
our
officers
to
be
fully
equipped
to
prepare
for
whatever
situation
they
may
find
himself
in
to
be
able
to
act
in
a
you
know,
in
a
level
of
professionalism
that
serves
the
the
bureau
and
the
people
that
they
protect
and
serve.
Having
said
that,
I
understand
that
we
need
to
continue
the
training
facility
as
we
progress
to
having
our
own
county-wide
training
facility
at
the
old
veterans
facility.
D
So
I
am
going
to
vote
in
support
of
it,
but
again
share
the
caution
that
now
we
will
have
invested
5
million,
maybe
close
to
6
million
in
renting
a
facility
which
could
have
made
a
massive
difference
in
in
capital
improvements
that
need
to
take
place
within
our
proposed
training
facility.
But
I
I
don't
want
to
be
an
obstructionist
in
any
way.
I
understand
the
importance
of
the
continuation
it
frustrates
me
I'd
be
lying
to
say
that
it
doesn't.
But
I
understand
and
you'll
have
my
full
support
in
in
voting
this
ahead.
D
Mr
chair,
if
I
could
go
a
little
off
here,
I
have
to
leave
for
a
scheduled
route
canal
and
there
are
a
couple
of
bills
coming
up.
I
was
hoping
councilman
burgess
and
I,
which
are
sponsoring
the
stop
and
frisk
that
we
might
hold
that
until
after
the
break
to
give
us
time
for
the
serious
consideration
of
a
lot
of
conversation
around
the
bill
and
also
councilman
wilson
and
the
short-term
rental,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
continue
to
hold
that
bill
too,
as
we
tweak
it.
D
A
Will
I
know.
D
Councilman
for
further
discussion,
but
with
that,
mr
chairman,
please
register
I
vote
on
the
remaining
bills
and
I
I
apologize.
I
have
to
step
away
for
a
12
o'clock
schedule
group
so
noted.
Thank
you
thanks.
Mr
chair.
Thanks.
X
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
too
share
sentiments
of
councilwoman
kill
smith,
our
president,
you
know
it
reminds
me
a
little
bit
of
my
daughter
paying
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
and
ran
to
living
downtown.
I
finally
talked
her
into
purchasing
a
house,
so
you
know
so
so
I
do
share
those
sentiments.
I
do
support
the
new
facility.
I
do
realize
this
is
a
big
project.
We
are
certainly
years
out
from
having
this
complete.
X
My
concerns.
Go
back
to
you
know,
training
or
our
training.
I
I
understand
we
need
somewhere
to
train
our
our
veteran
officers,
and
certainly
the
new
recruits
new
recruits
are
my
biggest
concern.
I
still
don't
see
them.
I
still
don't
hear
about
them.
I
hear
the
law
department
has
to
give
us
an
okay
or
something,
but
that's
to
me
is
the
most
important
thing
is
to
have
new
recruits
and
somewhere
to
train
them.
Certainly
we
do
need
the
facility
to
you
know,
train.
X
I
think
you
know
ultimately
that
the
new
training
facility
is
going
to
be
great,
and
it
brings
me
back
to
something
for
you
to
keep
in
mind
chief
is
our
training
is
amongst
the
best
in
the
state,
if
not
the
country,
and
it's
well
known
throughout
police
bureaus
throughout
and
that's
why
they
come
to
pittsburgh
and
hire
our
you
know
would-be
veterans
that
and
steal
them
away
from
us.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
put
something
in
writing
when
a
new
recruit
comes
on
before
we
start
training
them.
X
They
either
sign
on
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh
for
say
five
years
or
whoever
hires
them
away
has
is
to
pay
the
city
of
pittsburgh
back
for
the
training
that
we
you
know
paid
for.
Those
are
my
bigger
concerns,
but
I
certainly
will
support,
because
we
do
need
somewhere
to
train
them
and
I
think,
ultimately,
it's
what
little
under
two
million
little
over
two
million
dollars
over
a
five
year
period.
Yes,
okay
and
hopefully
in
that
five
years
before
we
have
to
renew
we
have
that
new
facility
built
and
that's
a
stretch.
X
I
think,
because
of
the
sheer
mass
and
size
of
this
operation,
but
so
I'll
be
supportive.
Today,
you
know-
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
those
thoughts
thanks.
T
So
the
other
thing
I'm
thinking
is,
we
also
are
leasing
the
steam
fitter
building
for
a
specialty
deployment
division.
Yes,
is
there
not
space
in
that
building
that
you
do
know
of.
W
Currently
we're
not
fully
occupied.
I
know
we
moved
our
swat
units
into
the
one
building
and
now
we're
working
on
the
administrative
building.
T
W
Classrooms
spaces
for
any
scenarios,
computer
labs
type
things.
T
T
What's
in
the
space
you
need,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
have
it
already
and
I'm
sure
people
are
going
to
come
back
and
say
we
don't
have
the
space,
but
I
would
like
I
would
feel
better
if
people
would
look
into
the
actual
places
that
we
currently
lease
or
currently
own
before.
I
vote
so
I'll
abstain
today,
but
I
do
understand
that
you
need
some
space
and
you
do
need
in
this.
It
will
take
a
long
time
before
the
actual
facility
is
is
up
and
running.
T
But
if
we're
looking
at
classroom
space,
I
think
that
there's
there
has
to
be
some
space.
I
I'm
glad
to
go.
Look
at
myself
at
some
of
the
buildings
to
see
what
we
have
and
as
far
as
and
I
agree
with
councilman
coghill
about
having
officers-
and
we
looked
into
this
before
agreeing
to
stay
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
for
five
years.
T
I
think
we
have
to
offer
a
better
salary
to
to
incentivize
or
we
have
to
offer
some
incentive
to
come
to
pittsburgh
in
the
first
place,
and
I
know
we
can't
get
reimbursed
for
the
training,
because
it's
also
the
state
pays
for
part
of
it,
because
I
looked
into
it
before
with
law,
and
so
the
state
pays
for
part
of
that.
So
we're
not
able
to
get
the
reimbursement,
because
we'd
have
to
figure
out
all
that.
T
You
know
how
that
was
all
divided,
but
we
can
make
a
request
that
that
people
agree
is
the
city.
The
mayor's
office
in
negotiations.
I
believe,
can
make
something
that
people
have
to
agree
to
stay
here
so
and
I'm
happy
to
hear
about
doing
more
with
the
classes,
and
I
appreciate
all
that
you
do,
but
I
just
and
I
don't
want
to
be
an
obstacle
to
what
you
have
to
do.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
responsible
with
the
taxpayer
money.
Thank
you.
Thank.
S
K
I
need
to
abstain
to,
although
I
am
not
conflicted
to
to
to
how
do
you
have
the
appearance
of
your
propriety?
I
will
because
I
am
an
employee.
A
V
K
Mr
president,
whatever
you
like
I'll,
follow
your
lead.
A
P
R
X
A
S
S
U
U
I
can
I
can
get
that
information
for
you.
I
know
that
there
would
be
time
to
sense
out
the
details
once
we're
at
the
draft
agreement
phase.
Okay,.
S
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
did
see
it
this
morning.
It
looks
beautiful,
it
looks
like
it's
mostly
finished,
or
at
least
the
portion
that
was
being
redone.
I
am
curious,
though,
that
we
are
just
now
approving
the
contract
when
the
work
is
mostly
done.
S
U
S
S
Thank
you.
I
hope
people
do
go
down
and
visit
it.
It's
it's
something
that
you
know.
I
think
that
place
making
is
incredibly
important
to
urban
centers,
especially
downtown
these
days,
and
so
I
do
want
to
say
I'm
fully
supportive
and
it's
beautiful
and
I
hope
people
find
it
as
a
comfortable
gathering
space
right
now.
Thank
you.
T
R
A
Opposed
affirmative
recommendation,
one
abstention
that
takes
us
to
human
resources
committee
chaired
by
councilman
kraus,
one
new
paper
bill,
451
bill.
T
A
Q
A
Q
Yeah,
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
here
in
a
second
for
a
hold,
but
I
just
want
to
explain
the
hold
so
working
with
the
administration
on
on
the
details
of
the
bill,
and
I
want
to
address
it
specifically
with
members
of
council.
So
in
the
next
coming
weeks,
members
should
should
see
an
email
from
my
office.
You
know
talking
about
getting
together
and
and
discussing
some
some
matters
in
the
bill.
X
X
X
X
X
However,
you
know
it's
a
55
fee
for
me.
I
feel
like
I
had
a
constructive,
really
good
conversation
with
the
folks
around
surrounding
lead,
but
I
don't
feel
they
took
my.
It
was
to
me
suggestions,
so
for
that
reason
I
can't
support
it,
but
yeah
it's
not
that
I
don't
feel
that
lead
safety
is
important.
I
do,
I
just
don't
think
they're
taking
contractors
situations
in
account
enough
for
me.
X
I
left
the
conversation
thinking
that
we
would
work
this
out,
but
after
my
initial
meeting
with
them,
I
haven't
heard
back
from
them
until
I
received
a
notice
that
it
will
cost
me
55
to
go
for
an
eight-hour
class.
55
is
nothing
it's
not
my
concern.
My
concern
is
taking
a
contractor
out
of
the
field
and
what
it
costs
that
contractor
this
is
their
livelihoods,
so
I
think
they
need
to
find
a
better
way
to
incentivize
contractors
or
general
contractors,
as
they
say
to
take
the
course.
So
that's
all.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
want
to
thank
director
kenter
for
being
here
and
I'd
like
to
bring
her
to
the
table
too.
If
you
could
introduce
yourself
for
the
public.
Thank
you.
C
You
director,
we
I'm
just
kind
of
actually
responding
to
councilman
coghill's
concerns,
because
this
is
something
that
we
have
discussed
both
with
the
advocacy
group
and
the
between
members,
and
you
know
this
this-
I
think
public
health
imperative
that
we
have
to
make
sure
we
are
making
home
sled
safe.
And
then
how
are
the
various
ways
we
do,
that
with
inspection,
if
you
know
permitting,
but
also
with
training
the
people
who
we
allow
or
regulate
right
and
permit
to
work
in
homes.
C
Y
Certainly
so,
city
council
passed
a
comprehensive,
led
safety
bill.
Last
november,
2021
and
pli
has
sprinted
to
enact
those
requirements
by
the
effective
date
which
was
may
29
2022,
and
one
key
component
of
the
lead
safety
bill
is
requiring
general
contractors
licensed
by
pli
to
obtain
the
epa
renovation,
repair
and
painting
certification
to
ensure
that
construction
work
is
happening
in
a
lead,
safe
manner.
When
you
disturb
lead
paint
during
construction
work,
you
create
lead
dust
which
is
toxic
and
it's
harmful
to
young
children,
and
it
harms
on
the
job
and
residents
do
so.
The.
B
Y
Safe
work
practices,
control,
lead
dust
to
protect
workers
and
our
residents,
and
that's
what
the
epa
renovation
repair
and
painting
rrp
certification
teaches
too
pli
this
build
before
you
has
a
few
components:
pli
worked
with
omb
to
procure
epa,
approved
trainers
who
could
provide
low,
the
lowest
cost
of
the
epa
rrp
trainings
for
our
licensed
general
contractors,
and
through
that
procurement
rfp
process.
We
received
two
low
bids
from
zac
academy
and
professional
training
associates
to
provide
training
to
our
licensed
general
contractors.
Y
Certainly,
I
understand
and
that's
a
comment
that
we
get
from
all
of
our
contractors,
but
I
will
note
that
our
electricians,
hvac
professionals,
fire
alarm
fire
suppression
professionals-
are
also
mandated
by
city
code
to
take
at
least
eight
hours
of
training
annually
for
continuing
education
credits
that
they
understand
our
building
codes
and
our
requirements.
Y
So
so
this
requirement
on
general
contractors
actually
aligns
them
with
the
contractor
and
requirements
we
see
from
our
other
trade
licenses,
and
I
would
also
just
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
executive
director,
michelle
nakarotti
chopka
women,
for
a
healthy
environment
for
all
her
partnership
and
assistance
in
getting
this
program
up
and
running,
and
her
commitment
to
provide
improving,
lead,
safe
work,
knowledge
and
practices
in
the.
C
C
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
the
anxiety,
but
also
the
the
real,
the
reality
of
the
contractors
facing
a
new
set
of
regulatory
requirements
for
the
city,
our
new
set
of
permitting
requirements
right,
I
say
permanent,
because
we
actually
issue
permits
to
allow
contractors
to
be
able
to
work
as
referred.
We
already
are
requiring
certain
types
of
contractors,
electrical
contractors
and
others
to
meet
professional
certification
requirements
in
order
to
have
their
certifications
work
in
the
city
on
the
same
hand,
in
order
that
we
not
to
speculate
or
whether
or
not
this
is
discouraging
certification.
C
Could
you
email
members,
maybe
before
next
tuesday,
on
kind
of
like
how
many
professional
certifications
for
each
of
the
subclasses
you
have
like?
Currently,
it
is
simultaneously
true.
Well
like
this
is
a
critical
public
health
imperative
and
councilman
cox
also
acknowledged
that
we
really
really
want
and
he's
supportive,
and
we
all
want
to
reduce
lead
exposure.
We
don't
want
to
disincentivize
the
work
getting
done
properly
or
the
work
getting
done
at
all.
C
So
if
people
choose
not
to
get
a
city
certification
in
order
to
avoid
this
additional
regulatory
requirement,
what
happens-
and
I
have
constituent
emails
documenting
that
this
happens-
is
that
you
know
they'll
send
me
photos
of
a
house
and
it's
work
that
you
can
see
with
your
own
eyes
that
wasn't
permitted
at
all
right,
so
people
are
doing
work
in
homes
without
permits
without
inspections,
completely
illegal
construction
work
right
and
we
don't
want
to
speculate
that
we've
added
to
that
situation
right,
because
that
is
less
safe
for
everybody.
C
So,
let's
just
document,
let's
make
sure,
let's
take
check
of
what
our
you
know,
how
many
contractors
and
which
contractors
are
certified
now
and
then,
if
we,
you
know,
maybe
there's
something
else
that
we
can
do
to
adjust
our
requirements
or
provide
further
incentives
or
do
something
differently.
If
we
see
that
there's
a
some
something
of
concern
and
I'm
not
even
sure,
if
I'm
anticipating
it
do,
we
see
people
choosing
not
to
recertify,
do
we
see
fewer
people
certifying?
C
I
just
let's
say:
let's
try
to
keep
eyes
on
it
and
because
you
know,
if
we
need
to
change
the
way
we're
rolling
this
out,
we
can
we
can
adjust.
It
is
that
something
that
sounds
doable
yes,.
Y
C
That's
so
great,
I'm
absolutely
you
know
fully
supportive
today
and
appreciative
of
how
much
work
all
of
you
have
done
and
your
whole
department
has
done,
and
so
many
other
people
have
done
to
get
us
to
this
moment.
I'm
really
eager
to
see
us
doing
lead
safe
work
and
making
blood
safe
homes,
but
let's
also
keep
an
eye
on
any
of
the
downsides
and
and
then
we
can,
if
we
see
them,
we
can
work
to
to
eliminate
them.
X
Thank
you,
mr
chair
director
kinter.
You
know,
I
fully
understand
the
education
aspect
of
it
and
and
again
I
look
forward
to
you,
know
learning
as
much
as
I
can
about
it.
I
guess
I'm
more
concerned
about
the
enforcement
of
it.
I
will
tell
you
as
a
con
as
somebody
who
knows
many
many
contractors
they're
going
to
take
that
class
and
spend
that
55
dollars,
but
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
hard
to
enforce.
I
mean
they're
doing
it.
X
Let
me
tell
you
so
I
would
say
90
plus
percentage
of
them
me
being
in
that
you
know
lesser
percent
but
they're
doing
it.
So
they
don't
have
a
problem
getting
permits.
You
know
they
need
to
have
that
otherwise
you're
not
going
to
approve
their
permits.
So
how
are
you
going
to
enforce
it?
So
you
know
say
we
learn
everything
we
need
to
learn,
but
what's
to
stop
that
contractor
to
go
to
their
building
that
next
day
and
tear
into
a
clouded
lead
dust.
Y
That's
a
great
question.
First,
I
will
note
that
the
requirement
squarely
falls
on
the
licensing
of
the
general
contractor,
so
during
the
building
permit
process,
is
it
possible
for
that
to
happen?
Yes,
however,
after
you
take
the
class
and
you
know,
I
took
the
the
lead-
the
epa
led
dust
life
class.
Y
Once
you
learn
more
about
lead
hazards,
I
think
you
know,
folks
that
care
about
their
own
safety
and
the
safety
of
their
workers
will
take
lead
safe
work
practices
seriously,
because
there
can
be
real
damage
to
yourself
to
others
to
residents
and
especially
the
small
children,
and
you
know
I
find
that
by
and
large
our
contractors
want
to
be
good
actors.
They
want
to
get
through
the
permit
process.
We
do
have
some
bad
actors
there
and
they
suck
up
a
lot
of
our
time.
Y
But
you
know
when,
when
we
look
at
folks
that
are
trying
to
get
into
compliance,
we
have
the
same
goal,
which
is
to
get
through
the
permit
process,
get
through
completion
and
really
turn
the
you
know
the
wheels
of
development
to
improve
the
built
environment
for
the
city,
and
you
know
I've.
I've
found
that
contractors
in
pli
have
often
been
aligned
on
that.
X
Yes,
you
know
I
I
I
don't
want
to
get
into
this
with
you
at
the
table
now,
but
your
our
requirements
for
general
contractor
I
had
to
be
registered
as
a
general
contractor
over
a
building.
I
bought
that's,
probably
less
square
footage
of
most
of
our
residential
homes.
People
at
this
table-
that's
not
a
big
deal
to
me.
You
know
and
taking
the
lead
class
is
not
a
big
deal
to
me.
X
The
55
is
not,
but
the
extra
insurance
premium
is
a
big
deal
to
me
for
me
to
be
registered
as
a
general
contractor.
So
I'm
not
sure
what
your
guidelines
are
as
to
what
is
that
a
state
mandated?
Is
that
our
own
policy,
but
I
don't
feel
you
know
a
small
place
like
I
purchased-
that
I
should
have
to
be-
you
know
certified
as
a
general
contractor,
even
though
it's
in
a
you
know
business
corridor,
I'm
what
constitutes
a
general
contractor
having
to
be
licensed
as
a
general
contractor.
X
Y
Yeah
great
question
so
title
seven,
the
general
contractor
license
is
required
for
anyone
performing
title
ten
work,
building
construction
work.
So
if
you
are
doing
a
minor
alteration
permit
up
to
new
construction,
you
require
a
general
contractor
license.
There's
an
exemption
for
folks
that
receive
or
obtain
from
the
state
the
home
improvement
contractor
license,
which
is
really
for
residential
minor
alteration
and
additional
alteration
work
there.
Y
There
are
state
insurance
requirements
for
that
hic
license,
and
I
believe
the
threshold
is,
I
want
to
say,
50
000,
but
I
will
double
check
for
you
councilman
and
get
you
that
information
there's
also
a
state
law
regarding
workers,
compensation
that
the
city
must
adhere
to
and
general
contractors
must
adhere
to,
that
we
ensure
is
enforced
through
the
licensing
provision.
X
Okay,
you
know,
I
love
the
work
that
you're
doing
with
pli.
I
love
the
red
tape
that
you
cut
out
previously
regarding,
I
can't
remember
what
it
was
around,
but
you
know,
any
any
red
tape
is
is
a
cutting.
Is
is
good
for
me.
Certainly
we
want
to
do
it
in
a
safe
manner.
I'd
like
to
have
this
conversation
more
offline.
I
guess-
and
you
know
just
give
you
concerns
of
from
a
contractor's
point
of
view.
Thank
you
director.
A
P
Bill
465
ordinance
amendment
in
pittsburgh
called
title:
5
traffic
article
7.
parking
chapter,
549
residential
parking,
permit
program,
500
549
visitors
permits
non-residence
permits
so
as
to
relate
the
issuance
of
residential
parking
permits
for
short-term
rentals
to
the
issuance
of
licenses
by
the
department
of
permit
licenses
and
inspections
authorizing
the
operation
of
short-term
rentals
in
the
city.
A
S
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
call
laura
dragowski
to
the
table
if
she's
available.
S
T
P
457
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
public
safety
to
enter
on
behalf
of
the
city
into
a
professional
services
agreement
with
gelato
force.
Software
subscription
based
client
relations
management
services
and
an
overall
cost
not
to
exceed
139
thousand
nine
hundred
and
eighty
dollars.
S
S
The
reason
I
wanted
to
stop
and
pause
and
discuss
this
bill
is
because
my
understanding
is
that
this
is
to
pay
for
a
new
database
system
for
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety,
and
it
gets
into
a
lot
of
the
work
that
the
staff
there,
the
growing
staff
that
are
doing
working
with
fire
working
with
ems
and
needing
new
ways
to
be
able
to
track
their
work
in
the
co-response
model.
So
you
know.
S
Social
workers,
other
people,
responding
along
with
public
safety
officials
at
various
at
various
calls,
so
laura.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
introducing
yourself
and
just
telling
us
a
little
bit
about
the
the
ins
and
outs
of
what
this
database
will
do
and
why
it's
necessary.
I
think
it
will
also
help
us
understand
where
you
know
the
office
is
right
now
and
where
what
stage
you're
at.
Z
Thank
you
come
to
person
strasburger
and
thank
you
to
council
members.
My
name
is
laura
gragowski,
I'm
the
manager
of
the
city's
office
of
community
health
and
safety
just
quickly
checking
I
I
ran
out
to
get
lunch,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
can
hear
me.
Okay,
so
I
think
you're
all
very
familiar
with
our
office,
but
maybe
not
as
familiar
with
the
progression
of
the
work.
Our
our
office
is
focused
on
sort
of
three
areas
of
collaborative
response
and
and
public
safety
coordination.
Z
The
first
is:
how
do
we
preempt
situations
that
might
result
in
a
crisis?
The
second
is:
how
do
we
respond
to
those
situations
with
the
right?
Responder
trauma,
informed
safety
of
paramount
and
the
and
the
last
is:
how
do
we
stabilize
a
situation
such
that
there
isn't
recurring
engagement
in
public
safety,
which
we
do
see
our
public
safety
professionals
do
see
a
lot
of
so
we
have
presently.
Z
Actually,
we
just
hired
our
fourth
social
work
staff
member
and,
by
the
end
of
july,
we'll
have
six
up
until
this
time
our
social
workers
have
principally
been
working
with
fire,
the
bureau
of
fire
and
the
bureau
of
ems.
On
what
dr
roth,
our
program
manager
calls
the
high
utilizer
program,
so
this
is
an
opportunity
for
either
a
firefighter
liaison
and
a
social
worker
or
a
community
paramedic
and
a
social
worker,
depending
on
the
level
of
medical,
acuity
and
complexity.
Z
That
someone
is
you
know
experiencing,
to
follow
up
with
the
patient
who's
been
referred
by
their
peers
and
fire
police
or
ems,
and
to
work
with
that
person
to
stabilize
the
situation.
I
will
say
we
predominantly
work
with
our
older
neighbors
who
have
been
living
in
some,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know,
based
on
your.
Z
Your
work
with
the
community
have
been
living
in
really
deplorable,
unsafe
conditions,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
preserving
their
dignity,
their
safety,
allowing
them
to
age
in
place
that
can
range
from
situations
reporting
pending
addictions
to
people
who
just
don't,
have
access
to
regular
medical
care
and
have
to
rely
on
our
emergency
medical
services
for
say
a
nebulizer
or
some
other
treatment
on
a
very
frequent
basis.
Z
Z
Excuse
me,
92
and
for
ems
patients
by
74
and
what's
important
is
not
the
reduction
in
the
call
volume
alone,
but
rather
the
stabilization
of
a
person's
situation,
the
promotion
of
their
dignity,
their
safety,
their
ability
to
stay
in
their
home,
which
we
know
aging
in
place,
is
really
critical
for
well-being
and
preservation.
Community.
We
are
about
to
embark.
You
know
we.
Z
We
are
planning
our
this
out
with
chief
stan
grecky
to
embark
on
co-response
pilots
that
will
involve
social
workers
and
officers,
responding
to
calls
initially
in
more
of
a
ride
along
support,
assisted
capacity,
but
ultimately
as
the
primary
response
over
time
and
coordination
with
the
county
emergency
services.
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
again
we
have
the
right
responder,
we're
making
sure
that
people
are
safe
and
we
give
people
that
time
that's
needed
to
de-escalate
or
address
any
issues
that
may
be
occurring.
We
know
we
have
very
few
officers.
Z
You
know
a
dwindling
number
of
officers
who
are
are
stretched
in
many
ways
and
we
do
need
in
many
of
these
cases
a
lot
of
time
for
people.
So
this
all
brings
us
to
the
point
that
we
need
a
a
way
to
collect
this
information
store
this
data.
We
have
social
workers,
licensed
professionals
who
need
to
for
ethical
reasons
and
for
just
documentation
purposes
to
have
a
safe
storage
location
for
the
information.
Z
We
are
very
intentional
about
not
putting
that
into
the
existing
public
safety
bureau
databases
so
aprs,
which
is
migrating
to
rms.
That
really
is
criminal
justice
information.
We
do
not
want
to
conflate
substance,
use,
behavioral
health
or
other
hipaa
protected
information
on
the
ems
side.
A
lot
of
these
cases
don't
involve.
Ems
and
ems
is
really
geared
to
a
a
medical
ems
response.
Z
There's
a
lot
of
bio
psychosocial
elements
to
this
work,
and
then
fire
you
know
has,
I
think,
a
relatively
small
deployment
that
wouldn't
be
appropriate
either,
and
we
do
feel
like
this
information
that
needs
to
be
kept
safely
from
us,
separate
from
the
vast
majority
of
our
public
safety
professionals,
who
wouldn't
otherwise
have
contact
with
these
individuals.
So
as
such
we've,
our
operations
administrator
had
set
up
about
eight
demos
for
us
with
different
software.
Z
The
crm,
which
forgive
me,
I
think
is,
is
customer
relationship
management
software
that's
been
kind
of
retrofitted
to
work
in
the
human
services
space.
It
does
of
these
software
demos
that
we
received.
None
of
them
worked
with
public
safety.
They
were
all
very
social
services
oriented
which
is
good,
but
much
more
focused
on
referrals
and
not
so
much
focused
on
the
public
safety
information.
Gelada
was
the
you
know.
Still.
I
ended
up
being
the
last
database
that
we
did.
Z
Look
at
it
was
recommended
by
johnston,
county
kansas
and
a
number
of
other
co-response
programs
across
the
country.
Not
only
does
the
database
store
information
in
a
way,
that's
very
accessible
to
our
social
workers
and
has
the
relevant
information
it
integrates
with
other
public
safety
databases,
so
we
would
be
able
to
pull
information
over
if
there
were
proper
agreements.
It
will
integrate
with
electronic
health
records
at
the
hospitals,
which
could
give
us
an
opportunity.
Y
Z
Better
data
sharing
between
the
hospital
institutions
and
public
safety,
in
whatever
direction,
would
be
safest
for
that
patient
and
it
allows
us
to
pull
pad
information
so
that
allows
us
to
take
in
the
direct
dispatch
information
and
create
instant
instances
of
a
patient
such
that
we
don't
have
to
go
in
and
recapitulate
that
after
the
fact
you
know
we
not
only
will
I
say
that
we,
our
social
work
team
and
our
first
responders
are
very
excited
about
it,
but
in
our
conversations
across
the
country
this
is
software,
that's
highly
adaptive
and
really
built
for
what
we're
doing,
and
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
we
have
this
extremely
important
partnership
with
roots
the
allegheny
health
network
program,
which
will
ultimately
evolve
into
you
know
not
just
the
assisted
response
and
outreach,
but
also
into
our
alternative
response
program,
and
this
is
also
a
system
that
will
allow
for
their
documentation.
Z
One
of
the
things
that,
unfortunately,
we
do
see
is
sometimes
information
sharing
about
people
can
result
in
increased
vigilance
by
healthcare
providers
regarding
law
enforcement
involvement.
So
we
do
need
to
be
sensitive
about
the
fact
that
we
don't
want
to
share
criminal
legal
involvement
in
the
healthcare
environment
without
a
patient's
consent.
So
we
do
need
separate
databases
that
will
allow
for
the
ethical,
high,
fidelity
storage
of
this
information.
Z
S
Thank
you.
That
was
a
great
summary
and
exactly
what
I
was
looking
for.
I
mean,
as
council
members,
we
spent
so
many
hours
discussing
issues
surrounding
this
exact
office
model.
You
know
other
aspects
of
public
safety
in
2020
and
2021,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
was
a
vehicle
for
finding
an
update
hearing,
an
update
on
what
was
implemented
and
how
it's
going.
Since
you
know,
oftentimes
the
public
scrutiny
fades,
but
the
work
remains
and
the
work
continues.
So
thank
you
for
that
update
and,
and
I'm
happy
to
support
this.
S
What
sounds
like
an
important
technical
piece
of
of
the
work.
T
Chair
yeah,
I
just
personally
want
to
thank
laura
for
her
work
because
over
the
weekend
I
don't
know
if
she
wants
me
telling
this
story.
T
I
called
her
about
10
o'clock
at
night
on
a
saturday
night,
because
someone
had
called
me,
there
was
someone
who
was
homeless,
who
needed
help
and
just
to
the
public
knows
when
we
find
that
out,
we
typically
offer
help
or
if
we
hear
somebody
a
public
comment,
either
laura
goes
out
and
helps
those
people
that
came
to
the
podium
or
one
of
the
members
or
our
staff
will
go
out.
We
never
let
somebody
walk
away
without
trying
to
offer
some
kind
of
help.
T
You
may
not
see
it,
but
it
might
happen
down
the
hall,
but
laura
went
out
at
10
o'clock
at
night
and
walked
three
blocks
in
uptown
to
find
a
place
for
a
person
to
stay
overnight.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
her
for
that
and
and
for
her
always
being
so
readily
available
to
to
counsel,
to
help
the
public.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Let
me
get
rid
of
that
thing.
I
also
similarly
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
director,
while
she's
here,
because
she
also
she-
and
I
also
had
a
long
conversation
a
few
weekends
ago
about
one
case
and
then,
while
we
were
talking
about
trying
to
get
help
at
one
location,
we
also
recapped
for
years
of
experience
working
on
another
case
with
an
individual,
also
in
my
district,
and
I
think,
that's
kind
of
relevant
to
today's
discussion
director.
C
So
you
know
in
that
long
conversation
we
had
it
on
sunday
sunday
that
you
were
recounting
knowing
a
street
a
homeless
person
who
you've
known
for
years
and
who've
had
repeated
attempts
to
help
in
different
ways,
and
so
I
guess
I
have
a
professional
curiosity
about
the
database
and
when
we
say
case
we
also
do
case
work
in
our
city,
council,
department
offices,
but
they're
about
constituent
issues
that
are
really
constrained
to
things
that
are
under
the
core
jurisdiction
of
our
departments.
C
Like
the
abandoned
cars
or
the
you
know,
the
kind
of
building
violations
or
noise
complaints.
Everything
from
you
know
garbage
to
a
kind
of
core
things,
but
your
office
has
really
got
trained
social
workers.
C
As
you
mentioned,
you
mentioned
ethics,
and
I
think
for
that
you
also
mean
like
privacy
and
the
separation
with
the
police
records
and
this
new
software,
but
maybe
if
you
could
just
also
recount
a
little
bit
how
your
the
socials,
the
social
work
definition
of
the
case
is
really
following
an
individual
and
their
various
needs,
but
then
also
not
to
be
confusing
my
question
here,
but
I'm
really
curious
about
like
how
you're
doing
the
record
keeping
is
it.
Is
it
an
app
on
devices
portable
devices?
C
Z
Thank
you,
council
person
gross,
thank
you
and
also
council,
president
councilman.
Thank
you
so
much.
It's
always
a
pleasure
and
a
privilege
to
help
in
any
way
we
can.
Maybe
I
do
want
to
preface
by
saying
the
vast
majority
of
the
work
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
in
kind
of
these
precarious
situations,
I
have
to
give
all
credit
to
the
roots
program.
Z
Very
often,
I
think
I
am
put
in
a
position
to
sort
of
report
back
on,
what's
being
done,
but
really
those
formative
relationships
and,
and
sometimes
those
really
hard,
hard
moments,
hard
hard
conversations
are
rarely
what
what
I'm
doing
and
very
often
what
our
partners
do
there
and
it's.
It's
really
difficult
work,
and
I
know
that
you
know,
especially
for
all
of
your
staff.
You're,
certainly
encountering
people
in
these
really
difficult
situations.
Z
Then
I
don't
know
the
dissonance
between
people
saying
just
disappear,
these
people
from
the
world
and
then
realizing.
Z
Human
beings
who
are
struggling
and
are
deserving
of
our
care
and
support
it's
it's
it's
hard
to
reconcile
those
in.
In
answer
to
maybe
the
more
specific
question
council
person
gross
right.
Now
we
have
a
compliance
excel
sheet
in
the
sharepoint
database
or
sharepoint
site.
We've
worked
with
innovation
performance.
To
put
that
together,
we're
very
grateful
for
them,
making
that
possible.
Z
Of
course,
you
know
we
did
need
to
have
some
minimum
security
and
protect
health
information
considerations
in
that
system,
but
it's
really
not
a
system,
it's
a
spreadsheet
and
it
does
create
a
great
deal
of
risk
or
inadvertent
data
loss
or
misattribution
of
information.
I
have
the
full
confidence
in
our
colleagues
that
they
are
double
and
triple
checking
everything,
but
it
is,
you
know,
not
a
sustainable
solution
and
in
fact
it's
something
that
we've
asked
them
to
do.
Z
You
know
too
long
now,
so
when
social
workers
in
particular
are
documenting,
they
do
have
minimum
documentation
standards.
There
are
situations
in
which
they
are
not
going
to
fully
document
a
case
because
they
are
subject
to
a
subpoena,
so
they
document
in
a
way
that's
adequate
to
reflect.
What's
been
done,
what
needs
to
be
done,
what
that
that
person
or
patient
has
expressed
or
experienced,
but
they
are
also
careful
not
to
include
information
that
could
be
harmful
to
that
individual
in
the
future.
Now,
that's
not
to
be
said.
Z
If
someone
acknowledges
that
they've
committed
an
offense
or
harmed
someone,
it
is
the
responsibility
of
our
our
colleagues
to
make
sure
that
that
that
there
is
an
appropriate
investigation
of
that
situation.
Z
They
do
preface
those
engagements
with
the
public
with
that
information,
but
we
do
have,
I
would
say,
a
balance
between
data
that
information
that
will
allow
our
colleagues
to
continue
to
work
with
that
person,
but
not
expose
them
to
un
unnecessary
risk.
In
terms
of
the
you
know,
trans
person
gross
you
mentioned
what
is
it
to
have
a
a
case
and
and
very
often
in
our
public
safety
infrastructure?
As
you
pointed
out,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
more
of
them.
You
respond
to
a
scene.
You
respond
to
an
address.
Z
You
respond
to
a
particular
manifestation
of
an
issue,
and
I
think
we've
heard
this
loudly
from
our
first
responders
that
the
issues
that
they're
encountering
are
oftentimes
enduring
chronic
recurrent
and
that
the
model
that
we
have
in
public
safety
doesn't
afford
them
the
ability
to
build
a
relationship
address
the
issue
mitigate
the
issue.
The
tremendous
benefit
of
our
social
work.
Colleagues,
who
are
all
just
exceptional
people
and
professionals,
is
that
they
do
build
trust.
Z
Sometimes
the
whole
purpose-
and
we
could
say
this
about
the
roots
team
as
well-
is
just
to
build
enough
trust
for
someone
to
disclose
something
that
they
need
and
that's
the
beginning
of
a
change
in
that
person's
circumstance,
and
so
some
people
it's
a
few
calls
and
some
people.
I
know
that
you
know
dr
roth
began
piloting
this
with
lieutenant
horowski.
Y
Z
Fire
in
queue
three
of
last
year-
and
there
are
a
few
people
that
dr
roth
is
still
working
with
now
the
city
is
not
in
a
position
to
rebuild
the
infrastructure
of
the
county
and
of
human
services.
I
think
council
person
wilson
has
referred
to
it
as
building
bridges
and
addressing
gaps.
Z
So
what
we
see
is
this
major
chasm
between
the
public
safety
response
and
the
access
to
human
services
and
what
our
professionals
are
doing
is
trying
to
bridge
those
gaps
so
that
people
can
access
what
we
hope
will
be
very
robust
and
supportive
services,
and
we
do
try
to
be
also
advocates
for
improvement
in
those
services
on
behalf
of
the
clients
and
patients
with
whom
we
work,
but
also
to
work
with
our
first
responders
so
that
they
don't
feel
this.
Z
You
know:
burn
out
compassion,
fatigue,
responding
to
the
same
situation
on
an
ongoing
basis
without
adequate
tools
to
address
it.
Counselor
person
goes,
I
don't
I
gross.
I
don't
know
if
there
were
some
other
questions
I
missed
there,
but
please
remember.
C
Sorry,
I
think
that
you
framed
the
kind
of
police
and
public
safety
again
institutional
legacy
response
is
to
a
situation,
as
you
said
right
and
it
even
the
records
of
the
structure
of
their
databases.
C
I
believe
I
don't
I
have
eyes
on
them-
would
not
allow
us
to
follow
the
history
or
arc
of
a
person
or
even
to
look
at
all
of
the
different
touch
points
that
a
person
an
individual
has
had,
which
is
fundamentally
different
than
a
contact
relationship
management
person.
That's
literally
the
tool
to
help
you
understand.
Every
single
entry
has
to
be
attached
to
an
individual
right,
it's
completely
different.
So
even
when
we
talk
so
much
times
about
institutional
bias,
even
institutional
sexism
institutionalized
racism.
C
Here
I
mean
it's
even
built
into
the
information
systems
in
that
there's.
It's
the
individual
is
negated
in
the
structure
of
the
softwares,
all
right
and
we're
in
here
and
in
social
work
and
in
the
software
that
you're
choosing
it's
centered,
the
individual,
centered
individuals,
history,
right
and
so
we're
going
to
be
able
to
we're
giving
you
a
tool
here
and
you're.
C
You've
found
a
tool
you're
looking
for
a
tool
that
can
help
you
do
what
we've
tasked
you
with,
which
is
to
really
center
the
individual
and
be
able
to
see
them
in
all
three
dimensions
in
all
their
history,
and
so
I
just
again
kind
of
a
geekiness
or
professional
interest
in
the
different
ways
that
we
even
structure
information
systems
based
on
the
questions
we're
trying
to
answer,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out,
we've
had
the
same
frustrations
in
my
own
office
right,
I've
been
tracking
every.
C
Hopefully
we
strive
to
track
every
single
call
that
comes
into
the
office.
Even
if
the
question
is
you
know
is
this,
you
know,
is
tomorrow
my
recycling
day
or
not.
You
know
that
log
it
in
I
always
log
it
in
anyway,
right
and
so
we've
built,
because
council
has
not
bought
itself
contact
with
crm
software.
C
There's
some
generic
crm
software
in
our
outlook
package,
which
we've
tried
and
rejected
in
previous
years.
This
is
just
a
frustration
for
me
that
I'm
just
going
to
take
the
opportunity
to
share
I've
had
excel
sheets.
I've
had
google
sheets,
we
even
have
a
pretty
fancy.
One
that
we
looked
vlogs
worked
with
inp
my
my
staff
person,
who
loved
just
left
that
will
dearly
miss
structured,
a
form
that
you
can
fill
out,
that
it
populates
to
a
spreadsheet
and
yet
still
it's
not
a
crm.
C
So
if
I
said
I,
I
know
that
woman
has
been
calling
just
a
hypothetical.
You
know
constituent.
I
know
I've
talked
to
that
constituent.
You
know
every
six
months
about
that
issue
for
the
last
eight
years,
it's
hard
to
see
that
in
the
digital
format-
and
so
it's
constantly
me
and
my
staff
is
probably
rolling
their
eyes
and
laughing
back
there
listening
to
counsel
today,
because
I'm
listening
in
from
the
other
room
and
I'm
hearing
them
talk
to
constituent
and
I'm
like
constituent,
a
look
back
in
2014,
look
back
in
2015..
C
You
know
I'm
like
shouting
at
them
to
look
at
other
spreadsheets,
because
there's
no
way
of
keeping
all
of
those
records
that
I
plan
to
say,
but
we
really
need
a
crm
to
get
that
case
history
out
of
my
brain,
because
it's
not
necessarily
in
their
brain.
So
it's
really
going
to
help
you
moving
forward
too.
In
case
it
doesn't
all
have
to
be
in
your
brain
and
if
they're
again
the
staff
changes
or
there's
just
different
staff,
who've
encountered
the
same
person
they'll
be
able
to
see.
C
I
hope,
the
all
of
the
information
that's
needed
attached
to
the
person
who
needs
the
help,
so
you
can
respond
to
that
again.
I
just
kind
of
have
my
own
personal.
You
know
be
in
my
bonnet
to
share
about
information
systems.
Z
I,
I
think
everything
you
said
is
right:
I
think
what
we're
we're
really
hoping
to
allow
the
the
tool,
the
documentation
tool,
the
record
management
tool
to
match
the
quality
of
service,
we're
providing-
and
I
think
you
know,
as
we
enter
into
the
partnership
with
roots
on
a
longer
term
basis.
We
also
recognize
that
the
people
who
do
direct
service
don't
have
time
to
enter
something
three
times
into
a
database.
Look
for
something
for
30
minutes!
It's
it's!
Z
It's
an
unfair
burden
that
we're
putting
on
people
who
are
doing,
I
think
the
most
complicated
and
the
hardest
work.
So
it
really
does
need
to
be
a
tool.
That's
not
retrofitted
to
to
you
know,
give
us
a
low-cost
option.
In
spite
of
the
fact
that
I
know
we
need
to
be
good
stewards
of
of
funds,
and
I
think
we
found
a
really
good
balance
here.
C
Well,
my
other
question
that
I
forgot
was
the:
how
how
does
it
physically
work?
Do
you
have
it
on
smartphones?
Do
you
have
it
on
like
what
are
the
interfaces.
Z
So
it's
it's
web-based
so
you're
able
to
access
it
on
a
phone,
a
tablet,
a
computer.
A
really,
I
think,
excellent
feature
that
we'll
be
working
through
is
others.
You
know
not
just
in
public
safety,
but
in
council
omi
311
would
be
able
to
put
referrals
in
now.
Of
course,
we'll
have
to
work
through
those
pathways
right
now
we're
working
on
those
pathways
with
omi
and
pli.
Z
But
when
we
have
this
database,
we'll
have
a
you
know,
a
firm
referral
pathway
so
that
that
we
won't
lose
people
in
the
mix
of
17
emails,
and
you
know
it
gets
just
lost
in
the
in
the
you
know
in
in
the
mire-
and
I
think
the
other
important
thing
is.
It
allows
us
to
be
more
vigilant
about
following
up
with
the
referral
referrer,
so
council
person
gross.
If
you
said
you
know,
we
have
this
person
laura
and
she
really
needs
some
help.
Z
I
think
very
often
because
the
the
help
even
may
come,
but
we
don't
close
the
loop,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
really
important
pieces
is.
This
will
give
us
that
ability
to
even
somehow
sometimes
automate
some
of
that
loop
closing
so
that
we
will
at
least
let
you
know
we
followed
up,
and
then
we
can
give
you
more
detailed
information
in
the
most
hipaa
appropriate
way.
C
A
R
A
Aye
any
opposed
affirmative
recommendation.
Where
are
we
at
that
moves
us
to
bill
458.
P
Field
458
resolution
amendment
resolution
268
authorizing
the
mayor
and
directors
of
the
department
of
innovation
and
performance
and
public
safety
on
behalf
of
the
city,
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
ost
inc
for
short-term
emergency
professional
I.t
staffing
resources
as
needed
to
fulfill
a
number
of
critical
I.t
and
device-related
projects.
By
increasing
the
funding
for
additional
projects.
A
Q
Q
R
P
B
C
C
Okay,
so
separately
last
week,
madam
presidents
motioned
for
a
public
hearing
and
post
agenda,
but
we
would
like
to
hold
this
pending
the
public
hearing
post
agenda,
so
we're
not
motioning
for
new
public
hearing
post
agenda,
but
we
would
like
to
make
to
hold
this
bill
until
those
things
occur
so
rather
than
hold
for
a
number
of
weeks,
I'm
going
to
motion
to
hold
pending
the
already
requested
post
agenda
and
public
hearing.
C
T
Q
A
Any
opposed
the
bill
will
be
held
until
the
already
motion.
Hearings
have
commenced
new
papers,
bill
450.
would.
Q
A
A
S
A
Any
opposed
affirmative
recommendation
before
moving
on
to
our
meeting
announcements,
I
want
to
try
to
go
back
to
mr
mark
olinius,
who
I
believe
has
called
into
the
meeting
and
tried
to
stay
with
us
this
entire
time
for
public
comment.
Are
you
with
us
mark.
A
And
it
appears
he
unfortunately
is
still
unable
to
reach
us
with
that.
Next
week,
council
will
hold
our
regular
and
standing
committee
meetings
on
tuesday
june
28th
and
wednesday
june
29th
respectively.
Speaker
registration
closes
at
9
a.m,
tuesday
and
wednesday
mornings
on
tuesday
june
28th
at
6
p.m.
Council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
on
bill
437
as
it
relates
to
adopting
the
reapportionment
plan
for
the
city
council
districts.
Registration
closes
at
3
pm
june
28th
on
wednesday
june
29
council
will
hold
a
briefing
with
sessions
at
2
and
3
p.m.
A
On
updates
from
the
proposed
annexation
of
wilkinsburg
committee
members
to
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speak
at
these
meetings
and
hearings,
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fill
out
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You
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