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From YouTube: Pittsburgh City Council Budget Hearings - 12/8/22
Description
Department of Public Works
Parks Tax Trust Fund
Department of Parks & Recreation
Pittsburgh Parks Conservancy
A
A
Today,
we're
resuming
our
budget
hearing
and
we're
starting
out
with
the
public
works
which
I
chair
and
director
hornstein
is
with
us
today.
What
we'll
do
I
guess
first
is:
have
our
budget
director
have
a
little
quick
overview
of
things
and
then
we
will
turn
it
to
director
hornstein
and
then
questions
for
for
Council
Members.
So,
thanks
for
being
here.
B
Thank
you.
The
mission
of
the
Department
of
Public
Works
is
to
maintain
the
city's
assets
related
to
accessing
public
streets.
Parks
facilities,
rehabilitating
public
structures
and
maintaining
the
city's
natural
environment
provides
support
to
other
departments,
administer
a
solid
waste
and
recycling
system
that
promotes
a
litter-free
environment
and
ensures
Public
Safety,
responding
to
weather-related
events.
A
quick
overview
of
DPW,
the
Department
of
Public
Works,
is
divided
into
the
following
bureaus
Administration
operations,
environmental
services
and
Facilities.
B
B
B
And
a
summary
of
non-personnel
changes
for
the
Bureau
of
operations,
an
increase
of
538
thousand
dollars,
which
is
mostly
attributed
to
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
added
vehicle
rentals
for
winter
operations,
the
buyer,
the
the
Bureau
of
Environmental
Services,
has
179
full-time
positions
in
the
mayor's
2023
budget,
which
is
actually
a
decrease
of
one
position.
B
B
25
000
decrease
for
Workforce
training,
a
one
million
dollar
increases
for
electric
for
utilities,
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
natural
gas,
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
water
and
two
hundred
twenty
one
thousand
three
hundred
sixty
nine
dollar
increase
in
land
and
building
leases.
Three
hundred
and
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
less
budgeted
for
maintenance
costs
and
189
000
less
for
budgeted
materials.
B
So
what
jumps
out
there
is
the
increased
cost
for
utilities
and
as
far
as
capital
projects
go,
there's
the
forty
four
thousand
dollar
lease
contract
payment
to
the
Bob
O'connor
Golf
Course
facility
improvements
for
City
facilities
totals
eleven
million
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
facility
improvements
for
Public
Safety
facilities
is
almost
11
million
dollars.
Facility
improvements
for
recreation
and
senior
centers
is
totaling
just
over
seven
million
dollars.
A
Hey,
thank
you.
Mr,
McDevitt
and
now
I
will
turn
it
over
to
director
hornstein.
And
what
do
you
got
for
us
Chris?
Let
me.
C
So
our
agenda
here
is
very
quick:
I
want
to
just
go
over
2022,
very
high
level.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
internal
partners
and
like
how
we
do
coordinated
work
and
note
with
other
City
departments,
and
then
I
want
to.
You
know
highlight
some
things
that
we've
requested
in
this
budget.
That
I
think
are
apt
and
pertinent.
C
So
one
of
the
big
things
that
we
did
this
year
was
We
instituted
a
real-time
safety
system,
so
we
trained
all
levels
of
management
from
Foreman
all
the
way
up
to
myself,
as
well
as
project
managers.
Now
everybody's
been
trained.
This
was
implemented
in
August.
This
gives
any
worker
in
the
department
the
opportunity
to
raise
a
safety
concern
and
incidents
with
the
goal,
a
quick
resolution
whenever
possible.
These
are
all
tracked
and
logged
in
a
database,
and
we
review
this
database
daily
to
date.
C
You
know:
we've
identified
better
PPE
and
safety
equipment
for
staff,
better
practices
for
preventing
maintenance
of
equipment,
so
the
things
that
we
do
have
we're
keeping
them
off.
Trying
to
you
know,
keeping
them
operational
longer,
which
is
critical
for
us,
but
also
reduces
the
safety
concern
that
staff
has
raised,
and
then
we
also
have
best
practices
for
incorporating
any
of
the
staff
safety
concerns
related
to
their
work
into
capital
projects
moving
forward.
So
a
lot
of
really
good
things.
There
is
I
always
like
to
say
you
know.
C
All
of
our
Frontline
Workforce
is
the
most
valuable
resource
that
we
have
every
time
somebody
gets
hurt
injured
on
the
job.
That
means
they're
not
able
to
perform
work
so
I'm
intent,
and
it's
one
of
my
top
priorities
to
make
sure
that
you
know
as
much
as
possible.
We
try
to
keep
every
one
of
our
workers
safe
out
there,
vehicles
and
Equipment,
as
I
mentioned
as
part
of
that
real-time
safety
system,
it
allowed
us
to
identify
some
some
preventative
best
practices
which
we've
begun
to
implement.
C
There
is
some
concerns
over
the
overall
state
of
some
of
our
equipment.
That's
beyond
its
useful
life
that
impact
operations
in
2022.
As
you
can
see
this
picture
on
the
screen,
this
is
our
tiger
mower.
This
is
the
mower
that
we
use
has
a
reciprocating
arm.
It's
the
one
that
we
use
to
mow
along
city
streets
on
hillsides,
hard
to
reach
places.
C
We
ended
2022
with
one
out
of
seven
of
those
operational
when
that
happens,
and
we
do
the
best
that
we
can,
but
we
have
to
send
out
staff
to
do
that
work
manually,
and
so
what
might
take
several
hours
may
take
one
person
several
hours
may
take
several
persons
several
days,
so
that
has
a
big
impact
on
the
types
of
services
that
we
can
provide
for
leaf,
vacuums
and
streets
alone.
They
ended
with
one
out
of
three
operational
in
the
park
side.
C
C
This
year,
Beyond
is
an
outline
of
equipment.
That's
past
its
useful
life,
I'd
like
to
point
out
backhoes,
also
use
the
low
salt
and
other
materials.
We
have
two
out
of
four
that
are
operational
street
sweepers.
We
have
three
out
of
ten
that
are
beyond
their
useful
life,
chippers
that
forestry
would
use
to
grind
up
the
material
that
they
cut
down
during
their
operations.
We
have
four
out
of
five
that
are
past
their
useful
life,
stump
grinders,
large
and
small.
C
I
want
to
call
out
some
of
our
internal
partners
that
we
work
with
to
help
make
us
go
first.
I
want
to
give
you
know
much
respect
and
appreciation
for
Public
Safety.
All
the
bureaus
into
particular,
though
this
year,
I
think
police
has
really
done
an
outstanding
job
working
with
us.
C
You
know
people
always
forget
that
Public
Works
are
First
Responders
with
them
and
we
rely
on
them
and
they
rely
on
us
and
we
very
much
appreciate
their
leadership
and
their
assistance
and
we're
happy
to
provide
that
The,
Innovation
and
performance.
They
were
really
critical
for
us
in
standing
up
the
real-time
safety
system
and
they
continue
to
work
with
us
on
a
variety
of
improvements,
but
I
wanted
to
call
out
that
particular
system
as
a
really
beneficial
Improvement
for
the
Department
permits
licensing
inspections.
C
You
know
we
work
in
hand
with
them
to
address
clean
and
liens
without
their
great
work
on
The
Upfront.
It
would
be
difficult,
if
not
impossible,
for
us
to
do
work
on
the
back
end
and
they've
been
instrumental
with
us
in
transitioning
enforcement
over
to
the
quality
of
life,
ticketing
that
Council
addressed
this
year.
C
So
the
program
highlights
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
You
know
the
real-time
safety
system
has
impacted
a
lot
of
these
things.
The
requested
Personnel
increases
that
we
have
here
impact
clean
and
liens
our
abilities
to
do
illegal,
dump,
cleanup
and
facts
our
abilities
to
do
enforcement.
It
impacts
our
ability
to
do
snow
removal
and
it
impacts
our
ability
to
provide
training
and
development
for
our
staff.
C
Regarding
clean
and
liens,
as
of
Thanksgiving
for
privately
owned
property,
so
this
is
privately
owned
property
that
pli
has
cited
and
gone
through
a
culinary
process.
We
have
258
open
requests.
Those
are
requests
that
we
have
not
been
able
to
address
so
to
get
to
this
backlog.
It
Takes,
Two,
Steps.
The
first
step
is
an
initial
cleanup.
On
average
it
takes
about
two
and
a
half
days,
a
couple
pieces
of
equipment,
a
couple
people
based
on
this
backlog.
C
It's
going
to
take
two
Crews
about
eight
persons
from
March
to
November,
to
just
address
the
outstanding
backlog,
and
that
assumes
that
there's
no
new
cleaning
Lanes,
which
I
think
we
can
reasonably
appreciate
that
there
will
be
new
ones
coming
in.
In
addition
to
that,
once
we
have
cleaned
up
the
lot,
you
know
we
need
to
regularly
maintain
it,
so
that
needs
to
happen
every
two
weeks
that
requires
another
additional
12
persons
just
to
address
that
backlog.
Now,
that's
for
privately
owned
property.
C
We
work
with
Finance
with
some
of
their
contracted
vendors
to
to
do
coordinated
maintenance
on
the
publicly
owned
Lots.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
seek
to
improve
next
year
is
when
the
lot
is
in
such
a
condition.
That's
beyond
the
capability
of
the
contractor
to
clean
it
up,
because
it's
so
overgrown
and
there's
so
much
trash.
We
would
provide
that
initial
clean
service
to
get
it
into
a
place
where
they
could
routinely
maintain.
C
For
enforcement
inspections,
so
we
will
be
transitioning
our
work
from
pli
for
the
enforcements
of
weeds
and
debris.
This
relates
to
the
quality
of
life
thickening,
so
this
has
additional
inspectors,
along
with
some
supervision.
Additionally,
there's
the
environmental
enforcement
coordinator
position
and
environmental
services,
and
that
is
dedicated
to
outreach
and
coordination
around
the
plastic
bag
ban
and
help
with
enforcement
of
that
we
talk
about
inspection,
it's
not
just
about
enforcement.
There
are
other
inspection
services
that
Public
Works
does
that
are
critical
to
our
operations.
C
One
is
illegal
dumping,
but
the
other
ones
are
we
inspect
for
construction
now?
This
is
not
like
a
permit
compliance.
This
is
for
contract
appliances,
just
make
sure
that
contractors
are
doing
what
we
ask
them
to
do,
and
then
we're
also
piloting
a
park,
maintenance
inspection
program
to
help
activate
and
be
more
efficient
with
our
Parks
maintenance
this
year.
So
the
supervision
is
needed,
it's
necessary
to
balance
out
the
task
load.
All
the
tasks
are
demand
based
right.
C
So
if
a
citizen
calls
and
complains
about
a
quality
of
life
issue
running
weeds
and
debris,
you
know
we
need
to
respond
to
that.
We
need
to
balance
that
out
with
the
demand
for
when
we
need
staff
on
site
to
watch
contractors.
So
it's
not
always
predictable,
so
we
do
need.
We
do
need
a
supervisor
there
and
our
plan
is
to
grow
this
program
in
the
out
years
and
expand
it
to
a
variety
of
different
ways
where
we
can
improve
service.
C
So
again,
I
just
want
to
kind
of
reiterate
how
snow
treatment
works.
Currently,
as
of
2022,
our
current
goal
is,
you
know,
95
plus
of
our
streets
are
treated
I,
mean
salt
and
or
plow
within
24
hours.
After
we
begin,
we
must
follow
a
hierarchy.
We
cannot
be
everywhere
at
once.
That
starts
with
you
know:
emergency
response,
routes
to
hospitals,
Steeps,
steep
streets,
primary
routes,
Mains
thoroughfares
and
other
places
of
note.
C
The
projected
staff
level
increase
that
we
have
proposed
in
the
Bureau
of
operations,
so
15
drivers,
41
laborers,
that's
56,
total
that
supports
reducing
this
goal
from
24
hours
to
10
hours
treated
does
not
mean
clean.
I
want
to
be
very
clear
about
that.
I've
been
clear
about
it
in
the
past,
but
I'm
going
to
be
clear
about
it
again
here
treated
does
not
mean
clean,
Bear
Street
in
24
hours,
the
salt
breaks
the
bond
between
the
snow
and
the
road.
It's
imperative
that
we
treat
everywhere.
C
It
allows
the
follow-up
work
to
happen
much
faster.
The
technology
isn't
critical
for
snow.
From
my
perspective,
the
Dave
will
needles
the
data
that
we
have
from
our
vehicle
tracking
and
from
Skyhawk.
It
enables
us
to
project
all
those
things
and
much
more.
C
You
know
again,
I
have
to
say
our
Frontline
workers.
Experience
is
always
the
most
valuable
input
so
we're
doing
any
type
of
Technology
improvements,
handing
glove
with
them.
This
isn't
about
controlling
them.
This
is
about
you,
know,
helping,
learn
and
teach
and
learn
from
each
other,
and
then
we
use
the
technology
to
continue
to
conduct
experiments
to
improve
performance
throughout
the
year
for
the
vehicles
and
Equipment.
C
You
know
we.
Our
plan
is
to
lease
14
vehicles
to
support
snow.
This
will
commence
in
January
upon
council's
authorization
of
this
budget.
So
this
is
a
direct
benefit.
That's
going
to
happen
this
year,
so
our
current
snow
equipment-
this
is
as
of
November
11th.
We
have
95
out
of
113,
fully
capable
snow
trucks.
They're
operationally
ready.
D
C
For
Parks
maintenance,
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
Our
Parks
maintenance
practice
is
based
on
standard
service
approach.
It's
just
tasking
frequency
for
every
Park.
Basically,
what
this
means
is
ball
field
should
be
cut.
Grass
should
ideally
be
cut
twice
a
week.
Litter
should
be
picked
up
every
day.
It's
a
regularly
scheduled
maintenance.
So
the
proposed
Staffing
improvements
that
we
have
here.
This
helps
us
achieve
a
more
consistent
standard
everywhere.
So
this
is
less
reactive,
less
trying
to
balance
out
where
we
can't
get
some
things:
the
vehicles
and
equipment.
C
So
we
had
proposed
two
two
rat
Packers
in
2022.
This
helps
us
be
more
efficient,
that's
less
loads
that
have
to
go,
get
dumped,
there's
less
travel
back
and
forth,
they're
more
on
the
street.
Getting
litter
out
again.
I
have
to
say
that
equipment
downtime
has
a
significant
impact
on
delivery
of
the
standard
service.
Every
time
a
piece
of
equipment
goes
down
for
prolonged
maintenance.
C
It
means
that
more
workers
are
needed
to
perform
that
simple
task,
so
we're
going
to
have
an
increased
focus
in
2023
on
the
skill
development
and
the
preventive
equipment
maintenance
practices
to
make
sure
that
what
we
have
is
operational
longer
and
is
better
cared
for,
and
we've
identified
what
those
are.
So
we're
ready
to
activate
that.
C
For
training
and
development
portions,
so
we
want
to
invest
time
and
training
at
all
levels
of
management
staff
and
the
front
line
staff.
It
takes
time
to
develop
certain
skills,
particularly
snow
removal,
on
snow
removal.
It
takes
about
eight
to
ten
times
a
year
that
we
have
snow.
So
you
only
have
eight
or
ten
opportunities
to
show
what
you
know
and
city
streets
are
extremely
difficult
to
plow.
This
isn't
like
plowing
a
highway
or
a
parking
lot.
C
They
are
steep
they're
difficult
to
navigate,
and
so
that
training
involves
ride-alongs
with
experienced
drivers,
observation
of
them
driving.
It
takes
a
good
season
or
two
so
workers
in
the
budget
this
year,
you
know
at
best
we
will
train
them
up
if,
as
soon
as
we
can
get
them
in
at
best,
we
would
train
them
up,
but
they're
not
going
to
have
a
substantial
impact
for
the
months
of
January
through
March.
C
We
think
this
is
going
to
be
critical
for
us
going
forward
because
we're
getting
multiple
requests
now
from
Domi
to
help
pilot
in-house
installation
of
traffic
calming
we
will.
We
would
love
to
support
them,
but
we
need
to
develop
this
skill
set
in
tandem
with
them
and
then
deliver
it.
So
those
things
are
going
to
take
time
and
then
there's
also
just
a
massive
amount
of
data
that
we
have
both
in
a
cartograph
and
in
Skyhawk
cartographing,
our
tasks,
Skyhawk
being
our
vehicle
movement.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you,
director
and
I,
just
want
to
say,
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
that
this
is
the
only
two
council
members
are
here
because
typically
we're
here,
because
if
there's
issues
with
the
department
or
so
so,
it
says
a
lot
about
you
and
your
leadership.
A
You
know
I
follow
it
closely
because
we
meet
often
so
so.
Thanks
for
the
work
you
do
and
let's
see
who
am
I
going
to
begin
with.
A
That's
what
I
said:
that's
usually
you're
here,
if
you
do
so
so
I'll
turn
on
over
to
councilman
Wilson.
E
A
E
Chair
no
I
I
appreciate
the
collaboration
everything
that
we've
been
able
to
accomplish
together.
So
I
just
want
to
go
through
some
of
these
new
positions.
Here
absolutely
can
you
explain
just
go
right
down
the
line.
F
F
C
C
Is
that
person
is
part
of
the
training
development
program?
So
that's
maybe.
C
Yeah
yeah,
that
person
will
be
part
of
the
training
development
program,
and
so
we
need
to
in
conjunction
with
a
real-time
safety
system.
We
have
copious
amounts
of
data
in
cartograph
and
in
Skyhawk
that
need
to
be
analyzed
that
it's
a
it's
a
full-time
job
right
now
that
I
don't
know.
The
analysis
mostly
consists
of
myself
and
a
few
other
Select
Staff
when
we
have
available
time,
but
we
need
a
more
directed
thoughtful
approach
and
that's
a
full-time
person.
The.
C
A
Well,
if
I
could
chime
in
the
logistics
manager,
I
think
my
office
we
put
in
for
that
request,
I
believe
and.
E
F
E
But
I
like
that,
because
I
do
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
a
lot
of
questions.
I
have
a
question
about
the
vehicles
I'll
get
to
that
there.
So
training
and
development
coordinator
yeah.
C
So
that's
coordinating
that
that
person
is
to
help
both
internally
with
the
tracking
of
the
training
and.
F
C
Well,
as
coordinating
externally
with
a
variety
of
Partnerships
that
we
can
see,
CCAC
partners
for
work,
the
unions
to
provide
a
variety
of
different
opportunities,
training
opportunities
for
our
staff,
both
front
line
and-
and
you
know,
administrative
to
develop
skill
sets
and
expand.
Our
capabilities.
C
That's
to
that's
to
manage
the
inspection
team
which
will
consist
of
the
anti-litter
inspectors,
inspectors,
ones.
Inspector
twos
I'm,
going
to
note
that
the
inspector
some
of
the
existing
inspectors
moved
from
the
Bureau
of
operations
and
Facilities,
but
that's
to
grow
the
functions
for
both
the
enforcement
of
anti-litter,
as
well
as
standing
up
the
piloting
of
the
parks
maintenance
program.
C
That's
a
New
Concept.
Those
were
previously
in
the
Bureau
of
Environmental
Services.
E
C
Was
the
anti-litter
inspection
enforcing
illegal
dumping?
Okay,.
C
Okay
and
then
we're
going
to
expand
that
offering
to
do
the
quality
of
life
ticketing
for
them
as
well,
along
with
the
inspectors
one
and
the
inspectors
too.
The
new
additional
positions
that
you
see.
E
So
you're
going
to
do
the
quality
of
life
ticketing
with
in
in
if
the,
if
the
legislation
passes
or
you're
planning
to
do
that,
regardless.
C
C
Situations
that
come
up
in
environmental
services
that
are
dumpster
bags
that
sit
there
for
too
long
yeah
those
those
type
of
things
that
rise
to
a
safety
concern.
E
Yeah
I
know
my
district
with
all
with
the
different
lots
that
are
vacant
and
abandoned,
there's
dumping
on
them
and
that's
where
I
see
something
that
can
be
done
either.
We
typically
just
do
the
cleaning
lean
with
the
property,
so
we
can
get
that
back
in
shape.
E
I
don't
have
many
complaints,
maybe
they
all
come
to
you
about
early
set
out
so
I
anyway.
I
do
have
concerns
just
in
general
about
the
legislation
and
how
that's
all
going
to
take
place,
but
I'll
figure
that
out
I'll
figure
that
out
at
Council,
but
just
wanted
to
know
what
what
you
were
gonna
move
for.
If
you
were
going
to
move
forward
without
the
legislation
yeah.
C
F
C
Was
done
independent
of
the
quality
of
life
ticketing,
and
so
it
still
aligns
with
kind
of
our
mission.
We
see
the
quality
of
life
ticketing
just
kind
of
folding
into
what
we
have
currently
planned
to
do.
Yeah.
E
F
E
C
Yes
and
I
believe
the
legend
solution
contemplates
those
types
of
protections
for
Citizens
yeah,
and
it
would
be
our
operational
position
that
we,
you
know,
we
wouldn't
want
to
unduly
burden
some
someone
in
our
internal
discussions,
we've
all
been
very
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
you
know
some
of
these
are
people
that
need
assistance
and,
and
part
of
that
program
is
to
you
know,
connect
them
with
the
assistance
that,
when
possible,.
E
So
I'm
definitely
familiar
with
the
you
know:
work
with
Sean
Weigel.
Typically,
whenever
you
know
there's
an
issue
with
you
know,
maybe
it's
someone's
property
but
someone's
dumping
right
there.
We
probably
know
the
exact
case
you
know
or
if
you
have
some
issue
with
trash.
So
would
this
all
go
through
like
where
in
DBW
would
this
go
through
this.
E
E
Interesting
it
was
that
Bureau
of
operations-
okay
and
then
the
communications
specialist,
who
was
that
or
who
is
it
that
same
individual,
is
moving
over
to
the
the
mayor's
office,
correct
and
who's
the
communications
person
specialist
right
now
board,
okay
and
then
the
constituent
services
coordinator,
who's
that.
E
Okay,
so
in
terms
of
the
fleet,
it's
just
quite
honestly,
it's
too
many
too
many
moving
parts
to
keep
track
of
so
because
we
put
all
this
money
into,
you
know
buying
vehicles
through
arpa
funding
previously,
like
17
million
dollars,
there's
green
Fleet.
E
In
arpa
funding
now
there
was
like
17
.:
that's
what
I'm
talking
about
there's
all
these
different
scenarios
that
we
got
in,
so
we
were
waiting
on
the
manufacturer
to
do
that
and
that's
why
we
rented
all
these
vehicles
last
year.
Okay,
so
you're
familiar
with
the
the
delay
and
what
was
that
that
was.
C
E
C
Was
like
17
I
believe
we
were
received?
We
had
some
issues
with
the
quality
of
the
receipt,
but
I
believe
it's
12.
New
vehicles
were
in
the
pipeline
for
operations
and
believe
the
Environmental
Services
ones
have
not
yet
be
delivered.
Some
of
the
2022
orders
have
been
canceled
by
the
manufacturer,
so
we
need
to
replace
order
at
an
increased
cost.
E
C
C
We
rented
six
last
year,
yeah
I
think
it
was
six
to
eight
I,
believe
it
ended
up
being
six
and
is
that
Lee
sanded
that
lease
has
ended?
We
ended
that
lease
at
the
end
of
March,
so
the
12
we
have
will
fill
that
Gap.
Yes,
but
I
have
to
point
out
that,
like
our
average
age
of
vehicle
is
still
above
10.,
so
the
average
age,
the
useful
life
of
our
vehicles
is
tracked
at
10
years.
C
Okay,
so
our
average
age
is
above
10
years,
which
means
that,
like
an
ideal
situation
is
between,
you
know
five
and
six
years
average
age.
C
F
E
12
the
lease
is
gone.
We
got
the
12.
and
you're
saying
that
to
there's
even
more
Gap
to
fill,
and
how
are
you
planning
to
fill
it
with
the
least
another
lease?
Yes
and
we're
going
to
see
that
at
the
council
table
back
again
here
soon
or
we've
already
was
that
in
the
authorization
last
year
to
re-up
it.
E
E
C
I'm
sorry
I
want
to
clarify
we
at
least
six
and
bought.
Sixth,
so
we
have
the
500
000
in
the
budget
is
strictly
for
releasing
that
would
support
Leasing
14.
E
E
Okay
and
then
I
don't
have
to
break
down
here,
but
all
the
trucks
that
are
coming
over
to
DPW
from
the
parks
tax
front.
How
many
are
how
many
is
that.
E
E
F
E
F
C
Absolutely
absolutely
without
question:
it
helped
greatly
looking
forward
it
again
this
year.
If
we
want
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
don't
have
to
lease
vehicles
and
we
want
to
reduce
maintenance
costs
and
we
need
to
invest
in
new
vehicles
period
in
point
blank.
We
need
to
invest
at
a
level
consistently
so
that
we
can
reduce
our
average
age
from
over
10
years
to
five
or
six.
C
C
So
you
have
considerable
savings
there.
That
could
be
realized.
E
How
do
we
fit
that
in
in
the
future
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
invest
in
I
mean?
Obviously
we
need
to
invest
in
the
fleet?
How
do
we
fit
that
into
the
the
capital
budget
on
DPW
side
so
that
we're
not
continually
drawing
down
the
parks
tax
trust
fund,
which
you
know
I
mean
the
idea,
would
be
that
I
think
you
know.
C
C
E
C
F
B
You
may
currently
and
just
as
a
reminder,
we
will
be
talking
about
the
parks
tax
trust
fund
this
afternoon,
but
just
for
the
purpose
of
this
discussion,
there
is
one
inspector
car
for
in
the
Parks
tax,
two
rat
Packers,
five
agricultural
tractors,
eight
hybrid
pickup
trucks,
eight
one
ton,
dump
trucks,
DPW
skid,
steer
in
the
Parks
tax
trust
fund.
E
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
also,
all
for
supporting.
You
know
making
sure
that
all
the
vehicles
are
working.
The
parks
are
being
taken
care
of
in
Terms
of
Maintenance.
The
only
concern
is
that
you
know
people
who
voted
for
the
for
that
fund.
E
They
have.
They
have
the
understanding
that,
because
that's
what
they've
been
reaching
out
about
is
that.
Well,
if
we
continue
to
pull
money
from
that
fund
and
don't
form
some
sort
of
partnership
with
an
entity
like
the
Conservancy,
that's
going
to
raise
money
based
on
Capital
that
they
can
expect
that,
were
you
know
we're
actually
hurting
the
situation
and
in
some
respects,
since
you
know
we
could
the
idea
I
guess
was
always
that
some
of
this
money
could
be.
E
You
know
positioned
at
an
entity
where
they
could
fundraise
and
get
matching
dollars
to
to
invest
more
in
our
parks.
So
I
was
always
interested
in
that
because
it's
always
good
to
you
know
partner
with
an
outside
organization.
That's
gonna,
you
know,
bring
more
money
to
the
table
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
we
move
forward
in
the
future
so
that
we're
not
continually
drawn
down,
because
I
I'm
only
asking
you
this
question,
because,
obviously
you
know
you're
going
to
have
a
data.
The
logistics
manager.
E
You
know
you're
gonna,
have
them
in
place.
You
have
these
operating
budget
capital
budget
requests.
I.
Imagine
you
know
unless
it's
I'm
not
sure
where
these
are.
You
know
where
this
model
came
from,
but
I'm
trying
to
understand
like
how
we
can
fit
this
into
the
the
normal
capital
budget
in
the
future.
C
Oh
I
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
understand.
Department-Wide
is
a
lot
of
you
know,
obviously,
as
I
pointed
out,
deferred
maintenance
and
Equipment
across
bureaus,
and
whenever
that
happens,
that
has
a
significant
impact
on
on
operations
and
maintenance.
I
think
one
of
the
big
pieces
of
dialogue
that
we
saw
that
we
were
responsive
to
in
the
public
regarding
the
parks
tax
was
the
just
the
increased
desire
for
maintenance.
The
number
one
request
on
maintenance
was
for
litter,
pickup
and
debris.
C
The
two
rap
hackers
are
necessary
to
make
that
operation
as
efficient
as
possible.
I
think
the
other
piece
of
it
is
in
these
early
years
for
the
parks,
tax
and
Parks
related
equipment
that
you
see
here.
You
know
we
are
projecting
a
you
know:
a
capital
expenditure
higher
than
normal,
so
that
we
can
write
age,
the
fleet
of
vehicles
and
equipment
and
by
2024
I
would
project
that
that
amount
would
drop
down
to
a
sustainment
level,
so
slightly
reduced
funding.
E
Yeah,
what
I
think
is
interesting
about
you
know
because
I've
seen
this,
you
know
this
Narrative
of
the
you
know.
The
number
one
thing
was:
maintenance
I
was
at
those
meetings,
several
of
them
and
I
understood
that
maybe
the
data
shows
differently.
Maybe
the
questionnaire
shows
differently.
I
understood
that
in
people's
eyes,
like
glowed,
when
they
heard
this,
that
we
were
going
to
hire
that
that
maintenance
was
tied
to
40,
more
workers.
E
E
But
you
know
I
I,
don't
know
just
being
at
those
meetings.
It
sound
like
they
had
the
ideas
of
the
the
simple
maintenance,
whether
it's
trash,
whether
it's
well,
it's
not
simple,
the
the
mowing
of
several
Acres
of
Park,
so
all
that
all
the
different
stuff,
obviously
there's
equipment
involved.
But
you
know
we
only
talked
about
the
workers
at
the
at
those
meetings
or
at
least
that's
what
was
presented
to
them.
So
I
think
it's
just
interesting
to
take
that
note
as
well.
E
So
did
we
come
up
to
40
increase
workers
on
and
DPW
Parks?
Yes,.
C
In
2023
we
show
40
workers
awesome
and
also
some
additional
seasonal
staff
as
well
to
augment
okay.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
Wilson,
and
let
it
be
known
that
we
were
joined
by
councilwoman
strasberger
and
our
Madam
president
councilwoman
Theresa
kill
Smith
and
if
you
are
ready,
councilwoman,
Strasburg
and
we'll
go
to
you.
Thank.
H
You
thank
you,
director,
hornstein
and
I
apologize
for
missing
your
your
presentation,
but
I
appreciate
that.
H
Appreciate
everything
you
do
and
with
your
department,
it's
quite
a
bit.
We
have
many
bureaus
to
to
discuss
so
I
will
start
with
bureau
of
administration
and
I,
see
that
there's
Workforce
training
and
additional
Workforce
training
costs
and
I
was
just
curious.
What
the
workforce
training
will
look
like.
What's
that
going
to
focus
on.
C
That's
going
to
focus
on
two
things,
so
skill
development
for
Frontline
staff,
so
in
management,
so
we
want
to
expand
our
offerings
to
management
across
the
department
to
give
them
better
skill
sets
that's
technical
skills
related
to
their
craft,
whether
their
position
might
be
whether
it's
you
know
more
knowledge
around
Parks
also
needed
to
support
more
Partnerships
within
the
city.
C
C
Partners
examples
would
be
CCAC.
C
For
work,
land,
Force.
C
H
Development
of
yeah,
the
workforce,
okay,
good
and
then
20
000
dollar
Grant.
What
is
that
an
existing
grant
that
that
draws
from,
or
do
you
happen.
C
To
know
offhand
is
it
in
the
bureau
of
administration.
H
H
Oh,
that
is
sorry
it's
in
here.
It
wasn't
on
my
kind
of
pre-prep
sheet,
so
twenty
thousand
dollars
love
your
block,
got
it
yep
I
have
no
questions
about
love.
Your
block
grant
yeah,
but
that's
a
significant
I
mean
I
was
talking
to
some
folks
who
helped
to
administer
that
that's
a
significant
human
sort
of
capital
investment
right.
Like
that's
a
lot
of
time,
that's
spent
basically
like
a
full.
It
could
be
a
full-time
position.
What
couldn't
you
say.
C
Oh
absolutely
yeah,
absolutely
a
full-time
position.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
tracking
a
lot
of
what
we've
discovered
by
utilizing.
Our
real-time
safety
system
is
that
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
training
happening
on
the
ground,
that's
being
shared
among
staff,
but
it's
not
necessarily
being
standardized
or
tracked,
and
so
you
know
when
staff
come
to
us
for
other
opportunities.
H
So
the
to
the
anti-little
inspectors
are
moved
to
admin,
correct
and
because
I
imagine
that
just
it
you've
probably
already
stated
this
so
again
apologize
for
missing,
but
I.
Imagine
that
this
is
that
there's
the
scope
of
their
job
just
extends
beyond
what
maybe
the
narrow
focus
of
Environmental
Services
is
correct.
C
So
there's
you
know,
that
is
a
demand
based
position
all
of
our
inspection
services,
so
just
to
kind
of
quickly
recap.
You
know
we
do
the
illegal
enforcement
weeds
and
debris
as
well.
As
you
know,
inspection
as
a
service
of
contract
Administration,
that's
not
like
permit
inspection,
but
that's
just
making
sure
that
our
contractors
are
doing
the
things
that
we
ask
them
to
do.
I
C
You
know
a
lot
of
those
services
are
demand
based,
and
so
you
know
we
need
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
make
prioritization.
H
And
just
to
kind
of
translate
this
for
others
who
might
be
watching
or
what
they
heard
from
the
mayor's
presentation
on
the
budget.
The
environmental
enforcement
manager,
at
least
at
first
primarily,
will
will
help
to
enforce
the
plastic
bag
ban.
Correct.
H
And
so
I
am
I
am
really
enthusiastic,
that
this
budget
includes
that
position
and,
of
course,
will
work
hand
in
hand
with
that
position
or
that
person
to
help
the
implementation.
This
coming
April
of
the
plastic
bag
ban.
You
know
I
know
that
at
first
there
will
be
significant
education
efforts
that
are
needed.
Marketing
efforts,
making
sure
that
especially
our
most
vulnerable
small
businesses
have
the
education,
the
resources,
the
free
bags
to
distribute
the
help
to
get.
H
H
They
need
to
follow
the
rules
right
and
so
I'm
enthusiastic
about
that
position
at
this
point
does
does
that
person
have
in
the
budget
what
they
need
to
help
with
the
marketing
to
help
with
the
Outreach
to
help
you
know,
do
everything
that
they
can
to
like
full
court
press
from
January
I
would
love
for
this
person
to
be
in
place
in
January
and
then.
H
C
H
Okay,
good
You
can
count
on
our
office
to
help
as
needed,
and
do
you
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
in
your
mind
that
they
would
interface
with,
say
the
office
of
nighttime
economy?
Who
has
those
good
relationships.
C
Absolutely
I
mean
that's
the
that's.
The
goal
that
of
the
coordinator
position
right
is
it's
to
make
those
connections
it's
to
help
with,
for
all
the
reasons
that
you
mentioned,
you
know,
give
a
great
grace
period
to
help
with
the
resources
to
help
with
education
and
Outreach
and
then
ultimately
to
to
help
with
the
enforcement.
H
Well,
that
will
be
a
big
lift
this
spring,
but
you
know
I
know
with
a
person
in
place
it'll,
it's
essential
to
be
able
to
help
to
be
the
resource.
To
put
the
you
know
website
together
the
frequently
asked
questions
to
be
a
resource
for
say
like
the
restaurant
and
Industry
groups
and
all
of
that,
so,
okay,
I,
don't
think
I
have
any
more
questions
in
Environmental
Services.
H
C
Always
a
challenge
on
this
current
construction
environment.
It's
extremely
difficult,
always
a
worthwhile
investment
to
do
when
we
can
to
get
fully
net
zero
ready
is
an
extreme
investment.
We
did
work
with
sustainability
and
resiliency
to
have
a
variety
of
strategy.
So
not
everything
has
to
be
a
massive
renovation
project.
I
H
And
then
I'm
not
seeing
it
here,
but
I
know
that
from
my
notes
earlier,
there's
a
sharp
decrease
I'm.
Sorry,
there's
a
sharp
increase
in
maintenance
and
I'm
wondering
what
that
Inc.
What
that
captures?
What
that
is
that
true,
is.
H
My
sheets,
well,
we
can,
we
can.
We
can
put
a
pin
in
that
one
and
move
on.
C
So
twofold
one
is
the
increase
in
snow
operations.
So
that's
to
improve
increase.
It's
no
responsiveness,
a
big
part
of
that
program
is
responding
to
the
backlog
of
clean
and
liens
that
we
receive
from
pli
on
privately
owned
property.
We
have
over
250
currently
that
are
in
our
queue
that
we
cannot
address
due
to
lack
of
Manpower
and
resources,
and
that
also
includes
both
the
initial
lock
cleanup,
as
well
as
the
regularly
scheduled
maintenance.
C
That's
about
20
Personnel,
just
solely
dedicated
to
that
the
additional
Personnel
would
be
associated
with
more
responsive
improvements
across
the
system,
so
more
potholes,
more
frequent
trimming
of
the
right-of-way.
You
know
more
consistent
support
of
special
events.
B
If
I
may
clarify
just
I
finally
found
it,
the
500
000
increases
in
the
Bureau
of
operations.
That's.
H
Related
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
then
the
15
truck
drivers.
H
E
H
H
The
well
I,
maybe
forget
the
structure,
question
and
just
what
we
can.
What
we
you
can
tell
us
now
about
the
timeline
of
the
Public
Safety,
Training
Center
and
the
building
itself.
B
To
my
knowledge
and
I
haven't
been
working
on
that
side
of
things
for
a
year
and
a
half,
but
it
just
from
my
experience
in
in
the
process
of
obtaining
the
property,
we
had
five
years
to
Begin
work
on
the
property
per
the
agreement
with
the
GSA.
C
C
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
going
to
require
the
program
as
previously
proposed
is
very
aggressive,
and
because
of
that
is
projecting
to
be
quite
expensive,
and
so
you
know
the
guidance
that
I
received
from
this
Administration
was
that
they
wanted
to
take
a
good
long,
look
at
what
is
being
proposed
to
make
it
a
more
reasonable
package,
and
you
know
we're
working
to
coordinate
that
with
Public
Safety.
H
Yeah
just
wonder
if
there's
a
way
and
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud
right
now
you
can
answer
if
you
like,
if
you
don't
want
to
answer,
that's
also
fine,
but
that
we
could
do
it
in
a
more
peaceful
meal
fashion
like
why
not
move
say
the
EMS
headquarters
up
there.
Now
you
know
from
your
perspective,
I
guess.
Is
there
a
reason
functionally
that
we
couldn't
just
sort
of
take
it
in
a
piecemeal
approach?
Okay,
this
is
a
building.
H
C
I
think
to
be
responsible
with
the
property.
You
know,
there's
outstanding
utility
concerns
and
building
conditions,
concerns
that
make
that
impractical
without
first
exploring
like
an
overall
master
plan
of
what
you're
trying
to
do
and
I
think,
which
is
where
we
were
with
the
previous
administration.
But
again,
the
overall
master
plan
was
very
aggressive
and
I
think
just
the
desire
to
revisit
that
program
so
that
we
can
structure
the
master
plan
and
if
we
need
to
seek
out
additional
Partners.
I
C
That
would
look
like
so
I
just
think
beyond
that
it
would
be.
You
know,
irresponsible,
to
project
any
more
detail,
because
once
you
start
doing
that
piecemeal
fashion,
you
really
need
to
know
the
program
you're
trying
to
accomplish
is
difficult
in
a
large
construction
program
like
this,
which
would
be.
You
know,
akin
to
a
small
college
campus
to
necessarily
pivot
on
a
dime.
H
I
H
You
know
you
and
I
have
spoken
and
I've
spoken
to
your
staff
about
this
and
many
others
as
well.
It's
my
belief
that,
just
as
we
had
this
goal
of
you
know,
everyone
should
be
within
10
minutes,
walk
of
a
green
space
or
public
park.
It's
we
should
have.
Everyone
in
the
city
should
be
within
10
minutes,
walk
at
any
point
from
a
public
restroom
in
a
place
to
get
water
right.
J
H
Basic
human
needs
and
if
we
can
start
with
making
sure
that
our
our
restrooms
and
parks
are
open,
that's
a
great
start
and
I
know
that
we're
working
on
that
and
I
know
we're
making
progress
on
that.
Can
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
from
your
perspective
on
how
that's
going
what
the
challenges
are,
and
you
know
we
can
talk
about
drinking
fountains
another
time
but
but
for
the
restrooms
itself
in
the
Parks.
C
I
mean
for
the
restrooms
themselves.
You
know
we
piloted
some
locations
throughout
the
city.
This
fall
to
open
to
be
publicly
available.
You
know
we
haven't
had
had
those
restrooms
open
publicly.
You
know
throughout
a
day
and
quite
some
time
that
means
you're
all
aware,
and
so
that
with
that
comes
a
lot
of
challenges,
a
lot
of
details
that
we
need
to
work
out
coordination
on
access
in
some
instances.
C
You
know
you
know
coordinating
that
with
athletic
associations
that
we're
also
helping
to
maintain
that
so
they
they
can
understand
what's
going
on
and
how
we
can
best
support
each
other.
And
then
you
know
the
the
basic
problems
of
owning
a
publicly
available
restroom
I
mean
we've
had
some
vandalism
that
we've
had
to
address.
C
You
know
just
kind
of
working
through
all
of
those
details.
You
know
revisiting
our
standards
for
bathrooms
to
make
them
more.
You
know
environmental,
both
environmentally
friendly,
but
also
you
know
colonelier
for
Citizens,
you
know.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
deliver
this
Humane?
This
is
something
that
I
think
we
we
all
agree
with,
but
we
want
to
take
it.
You
know
one
thoughtful
step
at
a
time.
H
And
what
I'd
love
to
get
I
could
love
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
are
able
to
share
in
a
publicly
available
database
or
map
what's
open
at
any
one
time
or
if
you
go
to
this
park,
there's
a
porta
potty,
there's,
not
an
open,
bathroom
or
Etc.
One
request
is
and
I
consider
this
to
be
like
almost
climate
adaptation
as
we're
in
December,
it's
warm
enough
ostensibly
to
go
to
a
park
right.
H
Can
we
push
back
the
closing
date
of
winterizing
of
the
non-winterized
restrooms
and
Parks
push
that
back
from
whatever
it
is
now
November
1st
to
say,
December,
1st
and
so
people
who
are
going
to
parks
in
the
nice
days
of
November
could
still
have
access
to
restaurants.
C
C
But
it
was
also
warm
in
November
right,
and
so
you
want
to
be
able
to
have
that
flexibility
and
I
can
certainly
understand
that
I
think
the
other.
The
Practical
reality
is
is
that
we
have
so
few
plumbers
on
our
staff
that
some
of
those
facilities
just
end
up
being
open
beyond
the
normal
close
date,
because,
quite
simply,
we
don't
have
enough
manpower
to
kind
of
close
them
all
when
we
take
the
whole
month
of
November
to
make
that
happen.
F
C
Certainly
something
that
we
can,
we
can
explore,
as
we
you
know,
continue
to
develop
this
program.
H
I
would
love
to
continue
to
explore
that
and
maybe
getting
I
know
we
don't
have
mad
Jacob
in
this
on
the
city
staff
anymore
painfully,
but
if
we
could
get
some
sort
of
database
of
you
know,
drinking
fountains,
public
restrooms,
what's
open
at
any
one
time,
and
then
my
next
project
that
I'd
love
to
talk
to
you
and
and
director
Vargas
about
is
mapping
out
well
just
exploring
the
access,
the
Ada
accessibility
in
our
Parks.
H
How
accessible
is
each
of
our
you
know,
especially
larger
parks
and
smaller
pocket
parks
in
various
using
various
criteria,
and
then
a
map?
Here's
the
park
that
is
accessible
in
these
ways.
Here's
a
park,
that's
accessible
in
these
ways,
so
you're
in
a
wheelchair.
You
want
to
be
able
to
go
sit
and
have
a
picnic
lunch.
H
You
know
that
this
is
the
park
to
go
to
because
the
benches
actually
removed
from
the
picnic
table,
and
you
can,
you
know
easily
roll
up
to
the
the
picnic
table,
for
instance
right
like
that
kind
of
information,
so
people
aren't
driving
all
around
the
city
to
find
the
the
accessible
features
that
they're.
H
I'd
love
to
work
with
you
on
that,
but
yeah,
more
kind
of
publicly
accessible
databases
for
those
types
of
things
so
there's
just
makes
it
easy,
makes
it
easy
for
the
average
person.
Okay.
Well,
thanks
for
all
your
work,
thank
you,
for
you
know,
always
being
responsive
and
for
yeah
your
willingness
to
just
kind
of
be
work
on
every
possible
type
of
issue
which
I
know
this
job
entails,
and
your
staff
are
great,
so
appreciate
it
and
for
taking
all
my
questions.
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman
strasbarger,
good
questions
got
me
thinking
about
a
couple
different
things,
but
the
idea
accessible
I
will
tell
you
Bernadette
who
comes
in
here.
She
just
goes
through
my
neighborhood
and
lets
me
know
everything
and
everywhere
so
she's
free
to
the
city,
but
she
gives
me
the
great
information,
so
I'd
be
interested
in
exploring
that
further
with
you.
So
thank
you.
You
know
we'll
go
to
our
esteemed
president.
Councilwoman
Theresa
kill
Smith.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilman
Coco,
thank
you
director
for
being
here
for
all
your
work
and
for
all
your
Crews
and
everything
that
they
do
every
day
and
they
are
really
challenged.
I
was
just
texting
back
and
forth
with
Rob
kazarovski,
our
previous
Public
Works
director,
and
asking
the
how
many
employees
he
had
when
he
was
here
under
act
47
they
had
678
and
our
director
just
told
me
in
your
proposed
budget.
You'll
have
617..
J
So
that's
a
big
difference
and
so
I'm
concerned
a
little
bit,
because,
although
they
did
really
good
with
snow
removal
other
than
snowmaged
in
which
people
were
really
politicizing,
that
wasn't
really
a
real
issue.
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
bad
everywhere
and
it
snowed
a
lot.
You
know
so
so,
of
course
it
was
going
to
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
clean
the
roads,
but
anyway
other
than
that
issue.
J
They
they
were
pretty
effective
in
in
cleaning
the
snow
with
that
many
people,
but
I'm
concerned
that,
with
only
this
amount
of
people
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
no
matter
how
many
trucks
we
have,
how
many
drivers
total
will.
We
have
and
and
are
you
cry,
are
you
using
them
processes
so
could
you
use
someone
who
drives
a
truck
for
something
else
to
do
snow
removal
or
is
that
against
the
Union.
C
We
utilize
the
driver,
class
and
snow
removal
and
there's
a
lot
of
questions
in
there.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
answer
all
of
them.
You
know
those
vehicles
to
which
they're
rated
to
so
that's
like
a
bigger
weight,
bigger
size,
so
drivers
and
laborers.
J
And
do
we
have
enough
vehicles
with
the
vehicles
you're
ordering?
Are
they
enough
to
get
onto
the
side
streets
because
that's
been
a
lot
of
the
concerns,
because
in
a
lot
of
our
districts,
there's
a
lot
even
though
we're
doing
more
with
bicycles-
and
you
know,
scooters
and
all
those
other.
You
know
modes
of
transportation.
We
somehow
have
an
a
tremendous
amount
of
vehicles
parked
on
both
sides
of
streets
and
making
them
even
more
narrow
than
they
than
they
used
to
be,
and
so
that's
my
understanding.
They
need
the
smaller
Vehicles
yeah.
C
So
part
of
the
lease
package
is
dealing
with
the
the
smaller
Vehicles.
It
was
specifically
targeted
to
those
that
the
the
characteristic
of
the
fleet-
that's
the
most
aged
and
so
therefore
the
vehicles
that
are
most
likely
to
go
down.
But
it's
a
it's,
a
cross-section
of
of
larger
and
smaller
vehicles.
J
F
J
So
so
I'm
just
I
just
want
to
say
a
little
bit
about
the
snow
removal
and
the
in
the
trucks
I
in
I
I'm,
not
crazy,
that
we're
using
the
money
from
the
park
tax
I.
Don't
think
that's
what
the
residents
intended,
but
I'm
going
to
say
that
I
also
think
that
residents
want
the
snow
removed
and
you're
going
to
not
only
remove
snow
and
Parks
I.
If
you
used
them
on
the
street
as
long
as
residents
were
getting
safely
two
parks,
maybe
that
would
be
okay,
but
I.
J
Do
think
that
you
need
to
have
some
type
of
partnership
with
an
organization
that
can
help
increase
the
funding
for
parks
and
do
some
of
the
work
that
they
do
and
I
will
say
that
you
know
I've
never
been
a
huge
fan
of
Contracting
with
other
groups
or
organizations
or
Pittsburgh
Parks
Conservancy
I
did
not
support
the
park
tax
until
the
public
supported
it
when
they
voted
for
it
then
I
voted
for
it,
but
up
until
then,
I
did
not,
but
at
the
same
time
I
do
value
that
they
can
raise
money
and
that
they
can
also
come
up
and
and
with
plans
for
some
of
our
buildings
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
do
in
the
city
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
hope
that
is.
J
Is
it
your?
Is
it
your
understanding
that
we're
not
going
to
have
any
partnership
with
them.
J
C
J
Okay,
that's
what
I
want
to
make
sure
because
I
mean
I'm
hearing
the
conversation
here
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they're,
not
we
just
didn't.
Okay,
we
got
the
park
tax
money
and
we're
done
now.
You
go
and
I
mean
at
the
same
time,
although
I
didn't
like
the
way
they
they
lobbied
for
the
park,
tax
I
think
it
was
horrible.
The
way
they
did.
It
I
think
now
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
something
great
in
our
Parks.
J
We
should
be
doing
it
together,
but
and
including
the
residents.
J
So
I
just
want
to
talk
about
that,
but
then
I
am
briefly
I
want
to
ask
you
do.
Are
you
in
charge
of
maintaining
like
the
Stables,
where
the
horses
are
I?
Think
it's
on
the
North
side.
J
C
F
J
So
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
open
up
and
then
the
Stevens
School
building
and
the
steam
Fitters.
What
is
the
time
frame
for
Steven
School?
What's
the
matter.
J
B
J
Sees
everything:
hey
I'm,
a
mom
I,
know
I.
C
Mean,
as
you
know,
like
we
kind
of
had
to
adjust
course
on
a
program
right,
so
we
have
to
revisit
the
architectural
services.
C
I
believe
I'll
have
to
confirm
and
follow
up
with
you
on
that
detail,
but
I
I
feel
pretty
confident
that
we
just
reworked
that
amendment
to
that
contract,
so
we
can
re-begin
so
I
would
I
would
expect
our
staff
reaching
out
to
you
and
your
office
and
constituents
this
spring
to
discuss
moving
forward
with
the
the
Stevens
project.
C
My
rough
estimation
is,
you
know,
for
for
construction
is
probably
you
know
from
now
until
occupancy
is
going
to
be
at
least
two
years.
Okay,.
J
So
I'm
not
happy
with
that
answer.
I'm.
C
J
C
D
B
B
I
I
think
they
I
believe
the
funding
is
in
place.
It
was
just
I'm.
J
Doing
nothing
I
mean
we
have
everything
we
have
in
our
side
of
town
is
public
is
privately
ran.
We
have
the
Salvation
Army,
we
have
the
open
door,
we
have
Rheem
wreck
which
we
own,
but
we
don't
find.
You
know
I
fund
it,
but
you,
the
city,
doesn't
as
old
and
we
have
something
else.
I
can't
remember.
Oh
it's.
The
Jasmine
irie.
J
Sheridan,
so
we
have
places
but
they're,
all
privately
funded
and
so
I
think
it's
it's
inexcusable
that
there's
over
17
neighborhoods
in
that
district
and
there's
not
one
public
facility.
That's
that's
used
for
the
kids,
and
this
is
the
one
building
and
there's
no
sense
of
urgency.
J
But
yet
we
all
talk
about
how
important
it
is
to
keep
the
kids
safe,
how
it
is
how
important
it
is
to
give
them
a
safe
place
to
be
how
important
it
is
to
to
address
the
public
safety
issues,
the
violence,
but
yet
here's
an
opportunity
to
help
get
some
kids
off
the
street
and
nobody
there's
no
sense
of
urgency.
So
I
just
want
to
say
and
I
know
this,
not
just
emails.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
very
clear.
J
I
know
this
is
not
just
your
decision
and
what's
going
on
with
the
fourth
division.
J
C
You
know
we
are
in
the
process
of
final
permitting
and
approvals
going
out
to
contract
as
soon
as
possible,
looking
to
break
ground
as
soon
as
possible.
Definitely
next
year,
okay,.
J
Well,
this
last
election
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
Southwest
Pittsburgh
had
more
votes
than
the
East
end,
so
I
just
want
to
remind
people,
there's
an
interest
in
our
side
of
town
to
start
seeing
more
investment
in
our
side
and
so
and
we
partner
with
the
north
side
pretty
well
too
so
I
think
that
you
know
people
need
to
realize,
there's
more
to
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
not
that
we
don't
want
to
see
anyone
getting
what
they
we
want
to
get
a
piece
of
the
pie.
J
That's
all
speed,
bumps
I
I
asked
you
and
director
Lucas,
Pryor
I,
actually
think
it
was
weeks
ago.
We
asked
about
doing
them
in-house,
because
I
think
we
could
knock
them
out
faster
than
if
we
were
doing
them
waiting
for
a
contractor.
Is
there
any
progress
on
that.
C
I
mean
director,
Lucas
and
I
have
certainly
talked
about
it.
I
would
love
to
do
that.
You
know
we
have
to
build
that
skill
set.
We
need,
you
know
we
need
Domi
to
you,
know
spec
it
develop
a
pilot
program.
C
I
mean
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
stand
up
that
type
of
thing,
but
hopefully
with
our
research
that
she
and
I
have
done
with
other
cities
that
have
implemented
similar
programs
that
you
know
I
think
it's
both
of
our
beliefs
that
we
could
stand
up,
something
that
would
be
both
in-house
for
the
installation
as
well
as
the
maintenance
of
it.
So
it
would
just
be
become
part
of
our
regular
work.
I.
J
J
A
while,
but
not
like,
I
used
to
right,
okay,
but
that
domey
part.
That's
that's
not
you
and
I.
Just
you
know:
I
my
mother
lives
in
Scott,
Township
and
so
I
drive
down
the
road
and
I
see
on
their
garbage
day.
The
cans
are
all
nice
and
neat
everything's
down
in
a
row
there's
no
trash
around,
and
then
you
see
the
truck
that
comes
with
an
arm,
and
it
just
you
know,
puts
it
in
the
truck
I.
Just
wonder
you
know.
C
J
As
you
see
some
of
them
and
it's
amazing
how
they
collect
the
track,
you
know
I
I.
Think
since
I've
been
here,
the
most
legislation
I
put
in
has
been
under
DPW
I,
put
in
you're
working
with
Dan
Gilman.
Previously
the
clean
and
lean
program,
the
anti-litter
program,
the
hard
to
recycle
program.
So
you
can
tell
I
have
a
thing
with
this
trash
stuff:
okay,
so
I
actually
like
going
and
picking
it
up
so
I'm,
getting
it
out
off
the
street.
J
So
oh
I
used
to
do
it
more
often,
but
anyway,
so
the
clean
and
lean
crew.
Yes,
you
have
them
still.
Yes,.
C
This
is
this:
well,
though,
they
we
don't
have
Staffing
to
maintain
the
cleaning
ring
crew
for
this
year.
J
D
C
My
presentation
addressed
that
the
we
have
a
backlog
of
250
clean
and
lean
requests
that
we've
not
been
able
to
get
to
to
address
that
backlog
and
then
provide
the
preventative
maintenance.
That's
about
a
total
of
about
20
Personnel,
so
of
the
Bureau
of
operations
that
you
see
the
15
drivers
and
the
46
laborers
in
those
months.
20
of
those
people
are
going
to
be
dedicated
solely
to
addressing
clean
and
lean.
J
And
what
about
the
anti-leader
program
is
I'm
gonna
see?
Is
she
still.
C
There
absolutely
Missy's,
still
there
Chris
Mitchell
Alicia
Carberry.
We
have.
C
D
C
And
part
of
getting
the
supervisory
inspector
position
I'm
sorry,
the
inspection
supervisor
position
is
to
help
coordinate
those
activities
between
the
two
things.
J
Is
there
any?
Are
there
any
any
plans
for
cameras
using
additional
cameras.
C
At
this
time,
no,
it's
certainly
something
that
we
we
proposed
in
our
budget.
It
just
didn't
clear
through
okay
to
this
final
drive,.
J
So
is
and
how
about
allowing
other
people
to
issue
citations
for
litter
or
in
or
dumping
or
anything
like
that
other
than
other
than
this
department
other
than
the
I'm?
Sorry,
the
anti-lure
people,
the
other
people
that
can
issue
citations
other
than
police.
C
Foreman
will
issue
them
for
things
related
to.
You
know
the
residential
garbage
collection
in
that
code,
but
it
gets
a
little
bit
murky
there.
That's
not
my
you
know,
honestly.
I'd
have
to
follow
up
on
some
of
those
details
with
you.
Enforcement's.
C
J
J
And
somebody
mentioned
councilman
cross
mentioned
the
other
day,
so
I
want
to
ask
them,
or
maybe
you
can,
if
you
know
that
you
cannot
there's
no
place
for
us
to
take
fire
extinguishers.
J
So
we
can
tell
the
public
what
to
do.
Okay
and
that's
it
for
me.
Oh
my
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do
and
all
the
crews
and
everything
they
do.
The
fifth
division
does
an
amazing
job
on
our
side
of
town,
John,
mcclory
and
all
the
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
Clarks
Crews,
because
they
they
really
work
really
hard.
Our
Parks
look
amazing
on
our
side
of
town.
J
For
the
most
part,
there
are
some
that
need
some
work
and
they're
working
on
them,
but
overall
and
Andrea
she's
her
designs
and
everything
she's
working
on
I
mean
she's,
just
been
I,
mean
she's
working
on
so
many
parks
in
my
district
I
can't
it's
it's
difficult
to
keep
track
of,
and
it's
not
just
in
my
district,
so
I
want
to
thank
her
and
acknowledge
her
for
her
work
too
and
that
whole
team.
Thank
you
good.
That's
it.
A
Meet
you
know
every
other
week,
so
so
so
I
really
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
questions
for
you.
But
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
things
that
were
said
and
some
things
that
I
just
want
to
verify
the
lean
and
clean
okay,
private
property.
We
never
go
inside
the
property.
This
is
exterior,
of
course,
correct.
Okay,
now
the
lean
and
clean
and
lean
means
we
file
a
lien
on
that
property.
C
It
you
know:
I'm
gonna,
have
to
defer
that
question.
J
A
So
so
we're
paying
for
the
cost
to
clean
up
yeah
right
right,
so
so,
whatever
the
cost
that
we
deem
Public
Works
and
however
many
people
you
may
have
there
I
guess
is
there's
some
sort
of
formula
that
we
use
and
we
put
a
lien
on
that.
So
we
probably
have
lots
of
liens
on
properties
right
now
of
cleans
and
liens
right,
yes,
okay,
okay,
I
can't
stand
the
fact
that
we
have
to
chase
these
Property
Owners
down.
A
Then
if
it
comes
in
our
hands
like
this,
but
as
councilman
Wilson
was
saying,
if
they
have
mattresses
and
things
like
that
in
AR,
we
have
to
get
it
cleaned
up.
So
I
guess
it's
the
only
way
to
do
it
so
I'm
glad
to
hear
we're
beefing
that
up
and
we're
going
to
have
more
people
on
that.
I
resorted
to
the
fact,
because
we're
so
far
behind
250
behind
and
I
know
you
don't
have
the
resources
to
handle
it
like
you
you'd
like
to,
but
we.
J
J
A
I
do
I
do
and
you
know
what
I
say
if
I,
if
they
file
a
complaint
against
me.
Well,
we've
been
looking
for
you
anyway.
We
need
to
talk
to
you,
so
you
know,
I've
never
had
a
complaint
filed
against
me
from
a
property
owner
who
I've
sent
somebody
on
there
to
you,
know
clean
and
lean.
Oh
no
I
do
not
have
permission.
That's
right
so
guilty
is
charged
okay.
So
let's
get
off
that
subject
so
so
we
were
talking
about
the
logistics
manager
that
I.
F
C
A
And
the
description
I
heard
you
tell
Mr
Wilson
of
the
logistics
manager
is
quite
different
than
what
I
had
thought,
I'm
and
I'm
talking
specifically
through
winter,
because
of
because,
if
it's
a
eight
inch
snowfall,
for
instance,
I'm
on
the
phone
with
my
supervisors,
I'm
on
the
phone
with
you,
I
thought
that
Logistics
manager
and
I'm
hoping
this
is
still
in
the
in
the
plan.
Is
somebody
I
could
pick
up
the
phone
and
be
like
they're
telling
me.
A
We
have
two
trucks
in
the
South
Hills
and
tractors
showing
zero,
so
I
I
wanted
that
person
to
help
me
through
winter.
Basically,
as
a
contact
instead
of
I
know,
Jeff
I
know
John
McCrory
they're
busy.
You
know
I'm
just
checking
on
their
their
work
Crews,
but
that's
what
I
was
hoping.
That
person
would
help
us
out
through
times
like
that,
I.
C
Mean
I
still
think
the
for
that
Direct
connection.
I
still
think
that
that's
the
best
approach
you
know
if
I
gave
you
that
impression
last
year
that
I
apologized,
that
was
not
my
intent
to
provide
you
that
singular
point
of
contact,
because
I
think
you
want
somebody
that
knows.
C
You
know
how
the
resources
are
being
deployed
and
where
they
are
and
what
the
limitations
might
be
in
terms
of
the
communication,
so
the
logistics
manager
could
handle
some
of
that.
So,
for
example,
these
least
vehicles
that
we
yeah
that
we
just
talked
about
they're
not
going
to
show
up
on
the
snow
tracker
they're
not
going
to.
C
Is
a
limitation
of
the
lease
but
I
would
you
know
quite
honestly
for
the
safety
of
the
public
I
still,
would
you
know
approach
it
as
let's
get
the
vehicle
out
there
and.
A
C
Working
absolutely
you.
A
Know
I
don't
know
if
this
could
be
done.
I
have
a
problem
with
the
tracker
because
it
causes
a
lot
of
work.
For
me
you
know
people
they
get
on
social
media
and
then
I
have
friends.
Call
me
I,
have
relatives
calling
me
and
the
whole
world
in
my
district
knows
that
District
2
has
more
trucks
on
the
street
than
District
Four
and,
and
it
causes
a.
A
This
causes
a
firestorm,
it
really
does.
Is
there
a
if
I
so
choose
to
say
you
know
what
this
tracker
is
more
of
a
problem
than
what
it's
worth?
Can
we
take
District
4
off
with
a
click
of
a
button
and
leave
other
districts
on
or
is
it
have
to
be
Citywide.
C
Would
have
to
explore
that
with
the
technical
team
I'm
not
sure
what
the
limitations
are.
A
Now
I
voted
for
the
funding
for
it
only
because
I
believe
internally,
it's
a
useful
tool
for
you.
I
really
do
I
believe
unless
it
was
a
hundred
percent
accurate.
We
shouldn't
be
putting
that
out
there
in
the
public
and
again
it
causes
more
work
than
and
that's
kind
of
what
I
needed
a
logistics
person
to
you
know
dealing
with
these
phone
calls
and
things
of
this
nature.
You
know
we
have
cars
and
siding
in
the
houses
and
other
problems
to
deal
with,
but
I
find
myself
struggling
with.
A
You
know
everybody
complaining
about
the
tracker,
so
so
I
would
love
to
know
if
I
could
hit
a
button
and
say
I'll
take
the
bullets
for
it
in
the
fourth
district
and
say
no
more
tracker,
because
it's
it's
it's
it's
become
more
of
a
you
know.
A
Social
media
I,
don't
know
a
problem
for
me,
I
will
say
and
if
it's
not
accurate,
especially
with
the
new
vehicles,
you
know
at
least
vehicles
that
we
can't
log
them
into
that
I
mean
what's
the
sense
of
this,
you
know,
I
get
it
it's
nice
to
see
a
a
a
pile
truck
coming
down
your
street.
You
know
to
know
when
you
can
safely
when
you
when
it
be
better
to
leave
your
house,
but
if
it's
not
accurate,
it's
it's
no
good!
That's
all
I.
A
I
get
that
a
lot
too.
So,
as
you
know,
we
made
so
many
so
many
improvements
as
to
what
we
used
to
go
by
the
distribution
of
salt
call
them
workers
in
for
forced
over
time.
Things
of
that
nature,
so
we're
not
caught
like
we
were
I,
always
seems
to
happen
like
Christmas,
Day
and
New
Year's
Day
for
me,
but
you
know
so
so
so
I
I
do
love
the
improvements
that
we
made
talk
to
me
about
leasing
the
trucks
I
know
this
year,
we're
going
to
do
14
leases.
A
Last
year
we
did
six,
you
know
we
did
it
kind
of
as
a
pilot
program
which
was
in
desperate
need
last
year
and
I
know
how
valuable
that
was.
These
leases
to
me,
you
know,
maybe
that's
the
way
to
go,
is
what
I'm
saying
through
at
least
the
winter
months.
You
know
I,
don't
know.
First
of
all,
do
we
have
the
I
guess
mechanics
to
regularly
regularly
take
care
of
our
vehicles?
The
numbers
you
threw
out
of
first
is
to
we
have
this
many
vehicles
and
two
are
operational.
A
You
know
I
feel
like
we
can't
keep
up
with
these
older
vehicles.
I
don't
even
know
if
we
have
the
mechanics
to
do
so.
So
just
give
me
your
thoughts
as
to
is
the
lease
program,
something
that
you
feel
that
we
should
permanently
do
it's
nice
not
to
have
to
worry
about
the
vehicles
breaking
down
and
give
them
back
and
get
a
new
Dependable
Fleet
the
next
year.
So
I
just
want
your
thoughts
on
that.
C
You
know
I
think
the
lease
program
as
a
stop
Gap
is
fine.
I,
don't
know
that
I
would
necessarily
recommend
it
for
as
standard
practice
throughout
the
fleet.
I
I
think
the
standard
Proctors
is
probably
age.
Fleet
is
the
most
cost
efficient
way
to
manage.
That
program
is
under
an
ownership
model,
but
where
I
think
the
where
leases
can
be
very
effective
is
in
specialty
equipment
that
maybe
isn't
used
all
that
long.
So
you
know
we
have
a
couple
of
like
really
large
trucks
that
we
use
for
for
snow
on
some
of
our
really.
C
You
know
large
areas
that
we
maintain,
but
in
the
summertime
they're
not
really
that
active,
because
we
we
don't
do
that
type
of
work,
anymore
and
so
I
think
I.
Think
some
of
those
things
are
where
I
would
look
at
a
at
a
permanent
lease
structure
and
I
and
I
do
think,
and
it
is
part
of
my
plan
to
review
for
2023
that
we
need
to.
C
You
know
really
look
at
the
size
and
distribution
of
our
Fleet
in
conjunction
with
our
Frontline
workers,
because
I
think
as
council
president
mentioned,
you
know
it's
getting
to
those
side
streets
in
those
narrow
areas.
If
that's
more
of
what's
needed,
just
taking
there's
absolutely
nothing
wrong.
F
C
And
so
that's
why
we
have
some
of
the
larger
Vehicles,
because
those
Vehicles
facilitated
all
of
that
asphalt
when
we
were
producing
gas
for
ourselves,
but
since
we
no
longer
have
that
operation,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
well
past
time
for
us
to
take
a
good
long.
Look
at!
You
know
how
our
Fleet
is
composed,
getting
smaller,
Vehicles,
more
Nimble,
more
structured
to
how
we
work
today.
Absolutely.
A
Ideally,
it
would
be
a
combination
in
my
eyes
you
know,
but
you
know,
I
was
not
thrilled
with
you
and
the
mayor
coming
up
with
a
24-hour
promise
to
have
all
roads
treated
and
I'm
glad
you
you're
specifying
treated
they,
but
in
their
minds
it's
cleared
right
now.
I
will
tell
you
and
we
could
try
to
you
know,
say
that
means
treated.
That
means
we're
going
to
put
salt
on
all
we
want,
but
in
their
minds
when
they
hear
you
say
that
I
wish
you
would
have
consulted
with
me
on
that.
A
C
Yeah
and
I
think
people
also
need
to
understand
that
you
know,
and
it
is
practice
as
I've
researched
with
you
know,
multiple
municipalities
around
we
don't
drop
plows
unless
there's
three
interests
of
more
on
the
road.
The
plows
are
always
on
the
truck.
So
sometimes
when
you
receive
that
comment,
it's
because
there's
only
an
inch
of
snow
on
the
road
and
we're
just
we're
just
treating
with
salt
and
that's
industry
best
practice
to
do
that.
C
Otherwise
we
would
be
wearing
out
plow
blades
constantly,
and
you
know
the
vehicles
will
be
in
for
even
more
maintenance
just
to
just
to
resurface
a
plow
blade
which
takes.
You
know
a
good
bit
of
time.
Several.
A
Hours
to
change
the
plow
blade
out
absolutely
so
back
to
the
fourth
Division
I
would
have
no
problem
making
that
promise
to
the
residents.
If
the
fourth
division
was
up
and
running,
you
know,
and
just
to
clarify
I,
never
missed
the
opportunity
to
say
that
this
division
is
going
to
be
built
next
year,
come
hell
or
high
water.
C
A
It's
been
five
years
in
the
make
you
know
and
of
course,
there's
things
beyond
our
control
of
the
mine
shaft.
We
can
go
kovid.
You
know
lots
of
different
reasons,
but
you
know
I
promised
my
district,
my
district,
that
this
thing
is
going
to
be
built
and
we're
on
it.
We're
ready
for
rfps
we're
cleared
by
the
EPA.
We
have
nothing
holding
us
back
at
this
point
unforeseen
and
you
know,
I'm,
counting
on
in
early
spring,
I
need
this
up
and
running
by
next
winter.
A
You
know
and
fully
staffed
and
whether
it's
lease
trucks
or
new
trucks,
you
know
I
know
it-
will
make
a
huge
difference
in
you
know
the
treatment
of
our
roads.
In
my
district,
it's
not
even
it's
not
even
the
the
fourth
division.
It's
not
even
in
my
district
of
course,
it's
being
built
in
District
three,
but
as
not
having
a
public
works
division
in
what
we're
used
to
be.
A
Didn't
want
to
fail
to
mention
that
anytime,
we're
on
camera
anytime,
I'm
in
public.
You
can
count
on
me
bringing
that
up.
Of
course
you
know
so.
Okay,
the
the
other
thing
was
I
asked
you
about
there's
one
alley
in
particular
along
Pioneer
Avenue.
We
said
we're
gonna.
We
gotta
treat
this
like
a
main
road
because
they
don't
have
on
street
parking.
They
don't
have
driveways
in
the
front.
They
all
depend
like
a
lot
of
Brookline.
They
depend
on
the
alleys,
that's
kind
of
like
their
driveway.
A
A
I
I
can't
think
I
don't
believe
we
could
just
judge
every
road
by
you
know
tertiary
or
not
this
particular
Road.
These
people
have
no
way
of
getting
out
unless
they
park
at
Moore
Park
and
that's
other
causes
other
problems,
so
is
it?
Is
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
implement
that?
You
know?
Can
I
tell
these
folks
that
you
know
your
Road's
going
to
be
treated
as
a
main
road?
Basically,
that's
that's
the
only
one
I'm
asking
for
actually
in
the
district,
but,
like
you
know
they
need
access.
A
I
will
tell
you
they
were
waiting
for
an
answer
from
me.
I
need
to
tell
them-
and
you
know
we're
weeks
away
from
probably
the
first
snowfall
and
I
want
them
to
know
that.
Yes,
we're
going
to
be
plowing
your
road,
maybe
not
before
Pioneer,
but
you
know
during
that
time.
I
just
need
that
included
and
just
because
I
know
there's
so
many
elderly
people
live
there.
That's
their
only
way
in
and
out,
and
you
know
they
have
to
go
to
doctor's
appointments
and
everybody
has
things
to
do
and
it's
the
only
one.
A
A
As
possible,
great
great
great
one,
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
the
I
went
to
the
firefighters
recruitment
class
32
people
was
great.
You
know,
however,
when
we
had
chief.
A
Last
week
you
know
there's
a
serious
deficiency
there.
You
know
we
only
have
I
want
to
say
four
female
firefighters
and
I
know
they're
working
on
that
I
was
glad
to
see
there
was
one
in
the
graduating
class,
so
that
will
make
five.
But
my
question
is
this
I
know
you
know
the
firefighters
is
not
their
operations,
not
for
you,
but
I
believe
I,
believe
we've
already
remodeled
or
made
certain
firehouses
where
they
have
male
and
female
restrooms
and
that's
vital
I
think
to
recruitment
for
females
number
one
and
sleeping
quarters.
A
However,
you
split
that
up.
I
just
think:
that's
that's
a
that's!
A
must
and
I
was
surprised
to
hear
and
and
I
know.
You
can't
control
this,
but
Chief
Jones
I
said
how
many
female
you
know.
Firefighters
do
we
have
he's
a
four
I
said?
Oh
okay,
I
said
well
how
many
fire
stations
have
we
accommodated
and
he's
oh
I,
think
about
four
and
I
said:
oh
great
I
said
you
know,
I
thought
you
know.
A
Do
we,
but
but
I
was
surprised
to
find
out
that
the
female
firefighters
none
of
them
are
at
those
stations
that
we
made.
Those
accommodations
and-
and
that
goes
back
to
collective
bargaining-
you
know
it's
not
something.
I
know
you
can
control,
but
what
is
the
pace
that
we're
we?
We
do
remind
Public
Works
that
follows
on
public
works
too.
To
do
that.
C
Right
yeah,
so
we
we
do
have
a
program
to
significantly
remodel
five
stations
and
that
would
include
improvements
for
female
quarters,
but
also
you
know,
based
on
a
condition
it's
a
broader
one,
so
that
that
gets
attached
to
design
services.
That
also
follows
a
you
know,
a
trajectory
that's
more
like,
let's
say
the
fourth
division,
and
so
that
takes
time-
and
so
you
know
we
have
reached
out
to.
C
We
have
reached
out
to
the
union
fire
leadership
to
coordinate
a
program
by
where
we
can
make
some
simple
changes
and
make
more
appropriate
accommodations
in
stations
that
don't
require
that
level
of
investment.
So
they
don't
have
to
wait,
and
so
we
can
help
accelerate
this
program.
So
we
are
working
on
the
back
end
on
that
internally,
that
you
know
that's
intended
to
be
done.
You
know
with
our
in-house
resources
as
much
as
possible.
C
You
know
kind
of
avoiding
those
things
that
would,
you
know,
create
a
large
renovation
project
and
then
you
know
create
an
extended
timeline
to
deliver
all.
A
Right,
okay,
okay,
yeah
I,
just
think
it's
hard
to
recruit.
Without
that
you
know
female
firefighters,
but
that's
really
not
your
problem.
I
just
want,
but
but.
A
So
so
that's
really
it
for
me.
I'm
gonna
come
back
to
you
right.
If
you
want
okay
but
yeah,
if
I
can
get
an
answer
on
Paul
way,
what
else
was
I
looking
for?
A
It
could
be
muted
out
in
my
district
I
just
want
to
know
if
it
could
be
I'm
not
saying
I
would
want
to
go
ahead
with
that,
but
you
know
I
know.
Maybe
some
other
members
like
it
I
know
some
have
problems
with
it.
I
don't
I
didn't
take
an
inner
pool
was
to
other
council
members,
but
yeah
I
would
really
like
to
know
if
we
could
take
that
offline
or
not
I'll.
C
See
what
we
can
do
about
the
for
the
technology
piece.
A
Yeah,
that's
I,
guess
that's
what
I
need
to
know.
You
know
and-
and
you
know
I
want
to
say
you
know
I-
think
you're
doing
a
really
good
job.
You
know
your
your
workers,
everybody
under
Public
Works,
there's
nothing
but
respect
for.
You
I
think
that
moving
forward
I'm
not
comfortable
coming
up
this
winter
until
we
get
that
Public
Works
division
built.
But
you
know
I
do
feel
you're
taking
all
measures
that
you
can
in
order
to
provide
the
services
that
the
district
needs.
A
J
Madam
president,
thank
you
I'm,
going
to
ask
a
question
for
councilwoman
elect
Warwick.
She
wants
to
know.
Do
we
have
any
shared
services
with
boroughs
for
snow
removal,
especially
in
the
outer
neighborhoods
like
Lincoln
place,.
C
C
You
know
right
sizing,
our
our
current
operation
when
I've
had
those
conversations
with
some
of
the
outer
municipalities,
really
what
it
comes
down
to
is
they're
able
to
provide
a
level
of
services
that
is
different
than
ours,
and
so
because
we're
so
it's
such
a
different
level
of
service
I
get
concerned
about
where
we
can
partner,
because
we're
just
we're
not
we're
not
providing
the
same
level,
and
so
that
becomes
a
concern
of
mine,
but
as
we
improve
the
operation
and
we
get
we
get
closer
to
other
folks
on
I
certainly
want
to
explore
all
of
those
Avenues.
C
J
Thank
you
She'll
follow
up
with
you
next
week
after
her
swimming.
If
she
has
any
any
further
follow-up,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
East
Carnegie
is
done
by
the
county
and
we
have
different
points.
We
have
different
Partnerships
with
the
county
throughout
our
district
because
we
border
so
many
boroughs.
We
border
the
most
boroughs
in
our
district,
so
the
county
does
always
Carnegie,
but
then
you
do
all
of
Noble's
time
or
something
like
that.
It's
a
different
different
trade-offs.
So
thank
you
for
that.
J
But
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
working
with
the
athletic
associations
with
you
and
trying
to
come
up
with
some
ways
that
yeah
that
they
can
be
a
partner
in
the
city
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work,
because
I
know
you're
working
towards
that
a
lot,
even
though
I
get
crazy
and
I
get
crazy
about
it,
but
just
about
snow
removal,
the
there's
a
lot
of
ice
coming
off
of
Mount
Washington
and
a
lot
of
hills,
and
so
I
always
worry
that
right
as
it
starts
getting
cold
that
that's
ice
is
going
to
freeze
we're
going
to
have
accidents.
J
We
already
have
lawsuits
because
of
some
of
them
I
wonder
if
there's
any
effort
beforehand
to
go
out
to
some
of
those
known
places
known
sites
and
try
to
address
the
water
runoff
before
the
winter
and
we're
almost
there.
So
I
just
wondered:
if
what
do
you
do
and
because
there's
a
lot
on
Shaler
there's
a
lot
on
Woodruff,
you
know
streets,
there's
a
lot
in
Elliott
in
different
streets.
F
J
J
Yeah,
well,
you
know
what
I
do
I
I,
don't
let
somebody
tell
me
it's
domey
I,
don't
somebody
tell
me
it's
DPW
or
PWS
I
say:
oh,
you
meet
me
out
there
and
that's
what
we
and
so
I
think
then
there's
no
finger
pointing
somebody's
taking
responsibility
and
honestly
I
I
will
say.
One
of
the
things
Dan
Gilman
was
good
at
was
bringing
everyone
together.
This
is
the
solution,
and
so
everybody
would
work
together
and
have
a
part
of
it.
So
everyone
thank
you
for
that.
J
But
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
appreciate
that
mayor
Gainey
realized
the
importance
of
hiring
more
staff.
I.
Think
that
I
think
that's
really
important
for
this
I.
Think
of
all
the
Departments
that
affect
our
residents
that
they
see
outside
their
door.
It's
I
think
it's.
Yours
is
one
of
the
top
of
obviously
snow
removal.
Streets
well
debris,
trees,
all
those
things
that
affect
their
quality
of
life.
J
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
do,
but
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
acknowledge
that
that
I
I'm
glad
that
he
realizes
the
importance
of
the
community
people
care
about.
Back
to
Basics:
that's
why
they
elected
this
guy,
so
I
think
people
care
about
that.
You
know
so.
I
want
to
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
recognizing
that
and
and
putting
in
the
request
for
additional
staff,
because
I
think
of
all
the
Departments.
It's
one
of
the
places
our
residents
don't
mind.
J
D
G
D
F
A
Want
to
comment
on
what
you
were
just
saying
about
the
you
know,
for
instance,
I
have
under
underground
Springs
that
leak
out
onto
the
road
and
they're
nightmares.
They
are
absolute
nightmares.
All
we
could
do
and
I
know
this.
Just
through
the
past
five
years
is
get
a
salt
truck
there
palette
with
salt,
and
you
know
to
hope
that
that
you
know
breaks
it
up
or.
F
A
And
I
will
say:
pwsa
does
play
a
big
role
in
that
he
can't
control
the
water
coming
right
from,
but
but
pwsa
canned
a
couple
particular
instances
like
you
said,
and
it
always
seems
to
be
like
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill,
going
into
a
main
road.
You
know,
and
so
it's
like
it's
dangerous.
It's
really
a
public
safety
issue,
but
I
hear
you
on
that.
I
have
it's
bad
I
feel
like
I
have
a
hundred
of
them,
but.
J
A
So
councilwoman
strasberger
did
you
have
anything
to
add,
or
did
you
oh
you're
finished?
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
You're
you're,
good,
okay,
well,
director.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
the
work
you
do
and
I
love
your
forecast
that
we're
not
going
to
have
any
snow
this
year.
You
said
right,
yeah,.
F
A
Good
deal
so
thanks
again
for
being
here.
Thank
you
all
the
council
members
for
being
here
and.
J
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
Pittsburgh
City
council's
budget
hearings,
I'm
Theresa,
Kell,
Smith
and
I
will
be
chairing
the
budget
updates
for
the
Department
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
Can
we
have
the
director
and
everyone
come
forward
and
I'm
gonna
turn
over
to
our
budget
director
Peter
mcdivitt?
So
he
can
give
it
a
little
update.
B
Thank
you.
The
department
of
Parks
and
Recreation
seeks
to
enrich
and
enhance
the
lives
of
City
of
Pittsburgh
residents
by
fostering
lifelong
learning
through
programs,
social
connections,
healthy,
active
living
and
culturally
diverse
recreational
and
educational
opportunities
within
the
City's
community,
recreational
facilities,
parks
and
program
spaces.
A
quick
overview
of
the
Department
of
Parks
and
Recreation
is
comprised
of
four
main
operational
areas:
operations
and
administration,
Recreation
project
design
and
delivery,
healthy
active
living
parks
and
special
programming
and
special
events.
That's
six,
not
four
position
summary
for
the
mayor's
proposed
2023
budget.
B
There's
a
total
full-time
positions
paid
out
of
the
general
fund
of
51
positions,
which
is
an
increase
of
seven
and
a
half
positions,
and
that
comes
through
a
total
increase
of
781
thousand
dollars,
which
is
a
about
a
23
increase,
a
quick
summary
of
non-personnel
changes.
B
Overall,
there's
a
398
500
increase
in
non-personnel
expenses,
the
largest
being
a
one-time
transfer
to
the
senior
programs
and
as
far
as
capital,
there
is
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
the
community
development
block
grant
for
the
senior
community
program,
and
also
just
to
note
the
Department
of
Public
Works.
The
Bureau
of
facilities
is
responsible
for
facility
improvements
to
Recreation
and
senior
centers
and
park
reconstruction.
J
Thank
you,
director,
McDevitt,
and
can
we
have
you
introduce
yourselves
to
the
public.
L
Good
afternoon
I'm
Luanne
Horan
I'm,
the
assistant
director
of
the
senior
program.
Thank.
G
So
I
I,
thank
you
again
for
taking
the
time
to
to
talk
through
our
budget.
I
did
want
to
go
over
I,
don't
know
if
it's
showing
there.
F
G
G
Share
it
like
this
beautiful
there,
you
go
that
works.
Okay,
thank
you
for
taking
some
time
to
meet
with
us.
I
wanted
to
talk
real
quickly
about
some
of
our
successes
in
2022,
first,
starting
with
our
senior
programs,
we
have
13
senior
centers
that
we
run
in
the
city
in
2022,
we
have
2280
active
members
across
our
centers.
G
We
have
provided
over
65
000
meals
to
date
this
year
with
half
of
those
being
the
congregate
meals
in
which
seniors
come
to
our
Center
to
eat
the
other
half
being
emergency
meals,
which
we've
had
access
to
since
the
pandemic,
to
provide
meals
at
home
for
seniors
and
we've
provided
over
1400
unique
programs
for
seniors
across
our
centers.
We
also
have
two
seasonal
assets
that
we
run.
G
We
run
the
operations
for
the
pools
we
had
over
15
115
000
patrons
last
a
summer
at
our
pools
and
over
18
000
folks,
who
visited
the
skate
rink
in
the
last
season.
This
is
a
picture
from
our
opening
day
this
year.
Actually
we
also
run
yeah.
It
was
quite
quite
festive.
We
also
Run
10
recreation
centers.
G
We
have
also
provided
over
110
000
meals
to
youth
through
the
summer
and
after
school
programs.
We
had
over
300
kids
involved
in
our
city
summer
camp,
which
runs
out
of
five
of
our
recreation.
Centers
75
kids
are
currently
in
our
after
school
programs
and
116
young
people
have
participated
in
Rec
to
Tech
programming.
This
year
that's
happened
virtually
and
so
far
it's
we've
had
we've
been
outfitted
to
do
this
work
at
Ammon
and
Polson,
and
we
partnered
with
some
poor
law
down
at
the
Berglund
Recreation
Center,
to
provide
some
programming
there
as
well.
G
Our
community
enrichment
programs
came
back.
You
know
our
season
back
in
person,
art
cart.
We
had
over
2
000
visits
of
the
art,
cart
and
their
support
at
community
events
we
had
our
largest
ever
alphabet,
Trail
entails
and
again
this
was
our
first
time
back
in
person
for
a
lot
of
these
programs.
As
you
can
see
that
it's
a
picture
from
Frick
Park,
we,
you
know
we
have
a
little
clicker,
so
it's
not
the
most
scientific
way
to
know,
but
we
estimate
we
had
over
5000
folks
join
us.
G
For
that
day.
We
also
partner
really
closely
with
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools.
We
did
over
25
events
with
various
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools,
the
majority
of
those
being
at
Pittsburgh
Langley,
which
we
have
a
ongoing
special
relationship
with,
and
we
served
over
5
000
young
people
in
that
relationship
and
then
for
City
Sports.
We
had
our
largest
RBI
season,
yet
we
added
Little
League.
We
had
72
teams
play
435
games
that
we
organized
with
a
number
of
the
local
Youth
Athletic
baseball
associations.
We
also
ran
a
fall
basketball
league
where
we
had
over
200
young
people
participate.
G
We
did
that
in
partnership
with
Ozanam.
We
also
have
a
separate
High,
School,
Rec
basketball
league
for
those
high
school
students
that
are
interested
in
in
regular
play
that
aren't
in
competitive
sport.
We
had
six
teams
and
75
participants
there,
and
then
I
will
note
that
our
indoor
soccer,
our
Futsal
program,
could
continues
to
grow
this
year
already
we're
still
taking
sign
ups
until
the
19th.
G
We
have
over
35
teams,
and
you
know
well
over
350
participants
already
signed
up
to
participate
in
that,
and
we
do
those
you
know
alongside
our
rec
centers,
we'll
all
have
teams
that
we
work
with
a
lot
of
Community
Partners
that
participate
in
those
programs
and
then
I
wanted
to
do
a
quick
shout
out
to
our
partner
DPW.
As
you
know,
and
Pete
mentioned
Department
of
Public
Works
does
all
of
the
facilities,
upgrades
maintenance
and
capital
projects
for
us,
one
that
we're
particularly
excited
about,
because
it's
happening
right
now
is
the
melon
tennis
bubble.
G
So
this
is
the
inside
of
the
bubble
if
you've
never
been
in
the
bubble.
The
first
time
I
walked
in
it
was
like
whoa,
but
as
you'll
see
their
mid
project
right
now
getting
the
floor
done,
and
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
for
us.
We
had
over
20
000
users
every
year
at
the
bubble
and
in
clinics
alone
we
serve
over
5
000.
People
who
sign
up
for
our
clinics
that
are
Pros,
run
a
couple
of
highlights
about
the
budget
that
we're
really
excited
about
one.
G
In
particular,
we
were
able
to
provide
a
cost
of
you
know:
a
livable
wage
increase
to
our
regulator,
ones
which
is
a
lowest
paid,
full-time
employment
in
our
department.
So
that
means
a
lot.
We
have
35
people
who
are
Rec
leader
ones.
So
that's
a
big
impact
on
on
those
staff.
We
also
are
expanding
City
Sports
by
adding
another
individual.
G
So
to
date,
City
Sports
has
been
a
one-person
show,
but
by
adding
that
we
hope
to
engage
more
sports
leagues
in
a
more
meaningful
way
and
particularly
sports
that
we
don't
already
have
a
relationship
with,
and
then
we
are
also
taking
on
the
special
events
team
from
Public
Safety
particular
to
the
events
that
are
run
by
the
city.
In
doing
so,
we're
excited
about
revamping
the
farmers
markets.
G
Just
as
we
think
about
our
work,
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
to
increase,
how
we
kind
of
think
about
our
work,
one
in
particular,
our
senior
programs
have
typically
kind
of
been
separate
and
in
their
own
space,
we
are
looking
at
how
we
continue
to
build
on
our
senior
programs
to
conclude
a
focus
on
wellness
and
as
we
do
more
nutrition
support,
how
we
sort
of
put
our
food
programming
all
together.
G
So
we're
looking
at
having
our
senior
programs
and
our
food
programs
more
more
working
as
a
team,
because
we
recognize
that
a
lot
of
our
food
support
goes
by
way
of
our
senior
programs.
And
we
see
ourselves
as
wanting
to
increase
in
the
way
that
we've
supported
nutrition
for
Pittsburgh
residents.
G
And
then,
of
course,
as
you
know,
our
community
programs,
our
Recreation
programs
and
our
Aquatics
team
are
are
all
a
part
of
that
and
I
know.
You
guys
know
how
to
contact
me,
but
for
the
public.
Please
follow
us
on
social
media,
and
that
is
all
I
have.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you
thank
you
and
we're
joined
by
councilwoman,
Erica,
strasberger
and
councilman
Bobby
Wilson.
Do
either
of
you
have
questions
councilwoman,
strasberger.
H
President,
thank
you
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
do
every
day.
It's
just
every
year,
when
you
present
the
statistics
of
just
see
a
number
of
meals
that
you
served
to
the
youth
and
to
people.
The
number
of
you
know,
events
that
you
held.
The
number
of
you
think
you
engaged
in
summer
camps.
It's
just.
It's
always
incredible.
H
The
number
of
lives
that
you
touch
every
every
year
every
day
and
I,
think
it's
what
it's
the
type
of
work,
that
it's
like
human
infrastructure
building
that
were
built.
We
know
that
makes
people
feel
like
Pittsburgh
is
home
so
important.
H
So
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
and
your
team
do
every
day,
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
and
then
one
that
was
prompted
by
you
know
looking
over
the
notes
that
we
were
given
by
our
Council
budget
director
and
your
presentation,
so
does
that
mean
that
100
of
the
special
events
office
is
moving
into
this
department.
G
H
We
are
yeah.
G
So
the
part
that
we
are
not
absorbing
involves
the
permitted
special
events
that
happen
or.
M
G
External
party
secures
a
permit
from
the
city.
The
reason
that
that
is
not
moving
to
us
is
because
a
lot
of
the
logistics
and
particularly
like
if
they
need
to
have
security
or
streets
closed
down
and
all
of
that
heavily
involves
Public
Safety.
So
we
are
taking
the
side
of
the
team
that
does
all
of
the
events
that
that
are
held
on
behalf
of
the
city
so
like
the
Fourth
of
July,
the
great
race,
some
of
those
those
big
events.
H
And
that
makes
perfect
sense,
so
that's
great
and
then
well
so
does
that
mean
that
where
will
Brian
Cates
land
he.
H
Great,
so
that
takes
care
of
one
question.
I
asked
this
to
earlier
this
morning
to
director
hornstein
and
DPW,
but
and
so
I
recognize
that
this
is
mostly
a
DPW
question.
H
But
you
know
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
making
that
we
are
ensuring
that
as
many
of
our
our
parks
and
open
spaces
and
facilities
are
fully
Ada
accessible
and
the
broadest
sense
of
the
word
right
like
that,
it's
not
just
something
that
is
meeting
the
bare
minimum
of
the
80
of
American
for
Disabilities
Act,
but
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act,
but
is
actually
exceeding
that
and
that
we
have
perhaps
even
a
database
of
our
Parks,
our
Wrecks
for
facilities
or
senior
centers,
and
how
you
know
the
accessibility
components
of
each
of
them.
H
So
would
would
love
to
have
that,
be
something
that
we
can
work
on
together
and
with
outside
Partners.
Who
I
know
are
eager
to
work
on
this
with
us
and
the
new.
You
know,
Ada
coordinator
and
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
them.
G
Yeah
I
mean
I,
first
of
all,
I
I'm
really
excited
about
that
about
that
work.
I
actually
went
to
the
public
hearing
on
Ada
accessibility.
That
was
here
because
it's
a
it's.
Definitely
you
know
of
interest
to
our
department.
You
know
we
work
with
older
adults,
accessibility
issues
there
and
so
for
us
to
have
our
facilities
and
the
parks
as
accessible
as
possible.
That
just
allows
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
serve
everyone-
and
so
it's
it's
critically
important
to
us
I-
would
definitely
welcome
that.
G
I'm
really
excited
about
the
Ada
study
that
the
city
is
going
to
do
for
the
city
as
a
whole
and
I
would
really
hope
that
our
parks
and
our
facilities
are
going
to
be
a
huge
part
of
that.
I
hope
that
that's
a
project
that
I
get
to
be
an
active
role
in,
because
you
know
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
a
good
Benchmark
for
us
to
also
see
that,
like
as
we
do
this
work,
how
are
we
improving
our
accessibility
when
we
notice
areas
where
something's
not
accessible?
G
How
are
we
working
together
to
do
that
and
we
absolutely
do
work
with
DPW
on
those
issues,
identification
of
the
issue
and
then
also
trying
to
get
the
right
parties
together
to
solve
it.
So
yeah,
Ada
accessibility
is
definitely
unbelievably
important
because
we
have
so
many
people
from
the
public
who
come
to
our
facilities
and
if
we're
truly
serving
everybody,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
those
facilities
are
as
accessible.
So
yeah
I'm
very
excited
about
that
concept.
I
love.
We
love
mapping
in
our
department,
so
I,
that's
a
great
concept.
H
Know
here,
thank
you
and
then
we
had
at
the
table
this
week
well
on
the
table
this
week,
a
bill
to
approve
the
learn
and
earn
program
and
a
kind.
H
Of
the
learn
and
learn
program
which
I'm
pleased
to
hear
is
going
to
be
more
expansive
holistic
and
include
financial
literacy,
that
sort
of
thing
and
we're
discussing
tying
it
back
to
looking
at
the
the
data
and
tying
it
back
to
both
social
determinants
of
health
and
kind
of
how
we
curb
the
violence
that
we're
seeing
in
the
city
and
it
to
me.
It
ties
into
the
work
that
you
do
every
day
too.
H
Right
like
that
is,
might
be
seen
as
indirect,
but
I
think
it's
pretty
Direct
direct
line
between
you
know
keeping
kids
in
the
youth
engaged,
especially
in
the
summer
time.
But
you
know
when
they're
not
in
school,
having
a
place
to
go,
having
a
safe
place
to
go,
keeping
them
entertained.
Learning.
All
of
that,
and
you
know
Finding
Pathways
to
really
good
activities
and
and
future
vocations.
So
how
does
that?
How
does
that
currently
link
up?
How
do
you
see
that
linking
up
in
the
future?
What
does
that
interaction?
G
So
currently
we
do
host
a
number
of
learn
and
earn
participants
at
our
facilities,
both
our
pools
and
our
at
spray
parks.
We've
had
them
in
the
past
in
our
rec
centers
we
so
we've
worked
closely
with
that.
What
we've
done
is:
we've
typically
had
a
direct
connection
to
partner
for
work
that
helps
like
link
us
to
an
organization
that
is
case
managing
young
people,
and
then
we
place
them
in
our
in
our
facilities.
G
We've
also
actually
had
some
opportunities
where
we've
shared,
learn
and
earn
participants
between,
like
you
know,
coming
to
the
rec
center
working
with
a
park,
ranger
working
with
actually
our
partners
of
the
PPC
and
having
like
a
holistic
Park
experience
by
those
end
of
those
young
people
having
like
a
different
week
with
each
with
each
of
us
right
to
kind
of
say.
This
is
all
the
things
that
happens
in
a
park.
So
we've
done
a
couple
of
different
things
with
a
learner,
and
we
want
to
do
more.
G
I
G
Also
just
happen
to
mention,
while
slightly
unrelated
but
I,
think
just
as
important.
We
are
the
highest
employer
of
young
people
because
of
our
lifeguards
and
other.
You
know,
even
at
our
rec
centers,
we
have
young
people
working,
so
we
employ
young
people
as
city
employees,
more
than
other
departments,
and
so
just
getting
back
to
young
people
having
something
productive
to
do,
and
you
know
making
money
and
and
all
of
that
they
do
that
with
us.
Also
outside
of
the
program.
G
Yeah
yeah
and
this
summer
we
we
actually
been
working
through
a
lifeguard
Training
Academy
at
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools,
we
piloted
at
Westinghouse.
We
have
a
couple
of
other
schools
that
we're
looking
at
I'm,
expanding
it
too
Perry
and
Carrick,
and.
G
So
we
have
a
lot
of
families
who
come
back
year
to
year
for
summer
camp
we've
had
young
people
who
have,
and
maybe
it's
not
particular
I,
wouldn't
know
necessarily
for
learn
and
earn
specifically,
but
we
definitely
have
young
people
who
have
been
like.
You
know,
members
of
our
rec
centers,
who
have
later
become
staff
at
our
centers
because
they've
it
had
such
a
great
experience
and
wanted
to
be
part
of
that
and
saw
the
opportunity.
You
know
to
you
know
to
make
that
transition
from
participant
to
employee.
That
certainly
does
happen.
B
No,
that
was
why
I
always
wanted
to
work
in
the
Parks
and
work
program,
because
my
parents
didn't
put
me
in
the
summer
camp,
but
we
did
have
campers
that
then
aged
out
of
the
youth
program
that
we
called
counselors
in
training
that
until
they
turned
16,
they
would
still
got.
They
were
like
unpaid
interns,
but
yeah
it
was.
It
was
a
complete
transition
and
they
became
paid
employees
and
a
lot
of
times.
Supervisors
eventually.
H
So
here's
just
my
last
question
to
see
if
you
happen
to
know,
and
if
you
don't
that's,
okay,
I,
don't
want
it
to
be
a
trick
question.
But
do
you
happen
to
know
the
gender
breakdown
and
the
participation
in
your
camps,
especially
or
in
your
your
youth
activities,
especially
Sports.
G
That
what
I
can
say
just
anecdotally
is
that
this
last
year
our
softball
program
was
smaller
than
most
years.
G
We
weren't
able
to
get
enough
teams,
and
so
we've
actually
reached
out
to
the
Pirates,
have
a
program
specifically
around
softball
and
there's
some
leaders
in
the
softball
space
that
are
looking
at
that,
because
that
is
a
concern
you
know,
particularly
for
the
older
age
group
of
softball,
if
all
of
our
athletic
leagues
across
aren't
at
a
place
where
they
have
older,
competitive
softball
players
like
how
can
we
start
to
do
something
now
to
rebuild
that?
G
It
was
the
first
season
where
we
had
to
combine
like
age
groups
in
that
area,
but
we're
definitely
working
on
that,
because
it
was
not
something
we
wanted
to
do,
but
yeah,
but
I
can
actually
get
that
in
terms
of
like
you
know,
all
of
our
other,
like
Futsal,
all
of
everything
is
is
I.
Can
I
can
certainly
give
you
that
information
and.
H
You
know
where
I'm
going
with
this
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
we're
making
it
accessible
and
open
to
everyone,
regardless
of
how
they
identify
and
that
it's
it's
welcoming
to
everyone
and
if
you
ever
are
interested
in
expanding
to
girls,
baseball.
There's,
someone
in
my
office
who
can
help
with
that.
So.
G
I
am
very
aware:
I
got
to
talk
with
with
Emily
about
that
recently
we
had
an
event
about
Title
IX
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
what
that
means
for
sports
at
all
ages.
So
yeah,
we
are
we're
going
to
become
a
participant
in
the
collective
group
of
folks
who've
been
working
on
on
those
Rec
issues.
H
J
F
E
Start
off
by
thanking
your
department,
yeah
and
I,
think
we've
we've
had
some
some
moments
throughout
the
year
that
we've
been
able
to
work
together.
I
really
appreciate.
Whenever
someone
from
the
community
who
runs
like
a
like
a
sports
League,
they
reach
out
and
they're
looking
for
space
or
someone's
looking
for
space
in
the
healthyaki
Living
Center
that
you
all
were
very
responsive
and
go.
E
What
I
think
is
out
of
your
way
to
to
figure
out
a
solution
so
I
appreciate
you
know
the
investment
that
you
give
in
those
in
those
times
also,
you
know
I
can't
let
this
go.
E
E
I
think
it
I
think
it
was
a
success,
almost
level
on
a
lot
of
levels
and
looking
forward
to
you,
know
more
polls
being
open
next
year.
On
that
note,
any
comment
and
what
we
should
expect.
G
Yeah
so
two
things
I'll
mention
is
one
yes
more
pools
open
next
year
is
100
our
goal,
which
is
why
we've
been
working
on
things
like
the
Lifeguard
Academy.
We've
actually
done
some
things
to
keep
more
of
our
lifeguards
on
in
the
off
season
by
having
those
those
courses
and
that
helps
us
retain
leadership,
which
was
a
particular
challenge
in
rebuilding
who
could
be
head
guards
and
assistant
head
guards
at
our
pools.
G
The
budget
currently
has
budgeted
in
it
for
15
pools
if
in
that,
I
think
it
might
be
even
Beyond
there,
and
so
we
know
right
now
that
a
Homewood
pool
is
going
to
be
under
construction
next
year,
which
leaves
two
additional
pools
that
we're
going
to
be
strategizing
around
how
to
how
to
get
to
all
pools.
But
with
the
wage
increase
for
lifeguards,
you
know
we
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
have
the
same
barrier
that
we
did
for
the
first
kind
of
like
couple
of
months
of
recruiting
season.
G
That
particular
change
has
made
a
big
difference
in
our
in
our
Outreach
and,
like
you
know,
I
mentioned
we
did
this
last
semester
at
Westinghouse.
We're
hoping
to
be
in
more
schools,
you
know
in
2023
early
talking
to
young
people
getting
them
in
the
pool,
getting
them
comfortable
in
the
pool
and
really
trying
to
be
more
proactive
with
our
lifeguard
recruitment
by
having
active
program
at
the
at
the
schools,
so
that
is
that
is
underway.
We
are
investing
in
that
now
with
the
goal
of
not
having
the
the
Lifeguard
recruitment.
D
E
Who
else
was
there
anyway?
It
was
circled
around
Communications
in
terms
of
of
how
we
can
have
better
communication
at
with
our
Parks.
You
know
so
in
terms
of
really
what
our
Parks
need
so
I
know.
There's
several
you
know
several
communities
or
a
specific,
like
you
know,
actual
group
that
forms
out
of
a
park
like
friends
overview
park
or
you
know,
I
know
you
have
some.
E
Communicate
with
them
better
because
it's
always
you
know
we're
like
sending
all
the
information
over
and
appreciate
the
build
out
of
the
the
neighborhood
services
team
and
I'm
wondering
you
know
how
that
conversation
we
had,
and
there
was
some
interest
there
and
to
you
know,
maybe
create
some
positions.
E
Some
wonder
where
we're
kind
of
like.
Were
you
able
to
fit
that
conversation
into
the
the
budget
talks
with
the
administration,
because
I'm
I'm,
seeing
that
the
communications
special
is
actually
going
to
actually
decrease
the
amount
of
communications
we
have
in
the
department,
so
that
will
all
be
around.
Like
you
know,
we
will
rely
on
the
administration
to
carry
the
message
or
to
take
all
the
concerns
and
carry
the
message.
G
So-
and
one
thing
I
do
want
to
note-
is
that
two
two
things
one:
we
have
had
a
conversation
with
the
administration
about
our
communication
Specialists
and
have
a
plan
around
that.
By
way
of
that
individual
still
being
very
much,
you
know,
alongside
our
team
and
you
know,
handling
the
communication
needs
that
come
from
our
department,
while
also
being
better
connected
to.
G
What's
being,
you
know,
broadcasted
across
the
city,
and
so
we
are
working
directly
to
try
to
make
sure
that
that
does
not
mean
that
it's
less
communication
coming
from
us
and
we're
hopeful
that
that's
not
what
what
will
occur.
But
by
way
of
the
conversation
that
you're
talking
about
you
know,
there's
in
our
conversations
with
rad
and
some
of
our
our
growth
in
our
rad
space.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
been.
G
Specifically
because,
if
you
look,
we
haven't
had
like
a
big
footprint
there
and
that
would
include
things
like
who
helps
to
partner
around
stuff
like
a
camping
initiative,
those
sorts
of
things
so
trying
to
build
that
infrastructure,
and
starting
with
with
that,
has
been
one
strategy,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
that
I
do
I
always
want
to
be
responsive
and
come
to
a
meeting.
So
please,
when
there
are,
you
know,
I
think.
One
good
example
is
coming
to.
G
The
Riverview
meeting
did
spark
some
really
great
action
that
took
place
and
got
done,
not
everything,
but
we
got
some
stuff
done
that
hadn't
gotten
done
in
a
while,
I
friends
of
melon
Park
I
am
I.
You
know
talk
with
them
regularly:
The
Point
Breeze
organization.
Any
group
that
has
these
needs
like
I,
want
to
be
available
for
and
I
do
think.
Sometimes
it's
important
that
it's
myself
at
the
beginning,
so
that
I
can
then
see
what
the
issues
are
and
make
sure
the
appropriate
people
are
taking
care
of
them.
G
E
Right
I
failed
to
mention
how
much
how
much
responsibility
you
took
on
just
to
take
it
on
yourself
and
and
go
to
those
meetings
and
figure
it
out.
So
I
really
appreciate
your
time
to
do
that,
because
you
know
bringing
review
back
up
to
you
know
where
it
was
that
most
northiders
remember.
E
You
know
it's
just
so
important,
because
it's
such
a
great
Park,
so
I
appreciate
all
the
time
you've
been
spending
to
to
make
that
to
make
all
those
whether
it's
projects
happen
and
I
appreciate
any
shout
out
DPW
either.
But
you
know
that's
all
the
great
work
that
you
all
do
and
collaborate
on.
So
thank
you.
I
love.
M
All
of
your
work
every
day,
you've
been
a
really
great
Department
to
work
with
director
Vargas.
We're
really
glad
that
you're
here
this
year
it's
been
really
great
working
with
you,
I
guess.
I'll
just
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
things.
Some
other
members
mentioned
and
then
I've
got
some
other
questions
going
on
I'll
start
off
by
saying
you
do
a
lot
of
work
for
very
small
part
of
the
city
budget.
You
are
probably
our
most
publicly
facing
Department.
You
touch
more
of
our
city
residents
than
any
other
department.
M
You've
got
the
relationships,
the
face-to-face,
your
parts
of
people's
lives,
and
we
really
really
value
that
and
again
it's
it's
less
than
10
percent
of
the
budget
operating
budget
this
year.
So
it's
one
percent,
it's
one
percent
of
the
operating
budget,
Peter
I'm
checking
I'm,
relying
on
you
just
to
do
my
math
right
right.
M
It's
5
million
out
of
a
670
million
dollars,
one
percent-
and
we
we
put
a
lot
on
you
and
again.
We
there's
I,
think
you've
got
a
lot
of
potential
for
what
we
can
do
for
our
residents.
We
talk
a
lot
here
at
the
table
about
what
our
residents
need
and
what
we
can
do
for
them
and
you're
the
ones
who
are
really
most
involved
in
more
of
their
lives
than
any
other
department.
That
I
can.
Think
of.
So
thank
you
for
that.
M
I
also
want
to
say
that
I've
been
asking
at
other
budget
hearings
about
kind
of
gender
impact
and
so
I'm
glad
that
gender
identity
and
I'm
glad
that
councilman
strasberger
opened
that
door
as
well,
so
I
I
think
I
heard
a
bit
of
an
exchange
about
Athletics,
especially,
but
it
kind
of
could
go
across
really
all
of
these
different
parts
of
your
operations.
There's
rectitech,
there's
even
for
our
seniors,
the
healthy,
active,
Living,
Senior
Center,
you
know
all
of
the
recreational
activities
we
do.
M
I've
been
reading
a
lot
recently
about
kind
of
centering
women
in
City
and
City
Planning
and
I've
got
a
book
on
my
shelf,
called
feminist,
City,
I,
think,
and
so,
if
we're
we're
not
reducing
I
hope
our
Recreation,
probably
more
so
than
in
the
70s
or
80s,
where
some
of
my
constituents
remember.
But
you
know
when
we
think
about
kind
of
all
of
the
recreational
programming
that
we're
offering
kind
of
how
much
of
it
is
just
Athletics,
because
sometimes
to
get
more
female,
identifying
participation
at
every
age
group,
maybe
it
isn't
only
Sports
right.
G
Yeah
yeah,
so
we
actually,
we
have
a
lot
of
activities
that
are
not
in
the
in
the
sports
field
that
happen
at
our
rec
centers
I'll
give
a
couple
just
High
examples
and
including
our
summer
camp.
The
way
the
summer
camps
even
structured
is
that
it
is
both
active
and
also
enrichment.
So
the
Arts
we
do
a
lot
around
the
Arts
and
to
your
point
across
the
board.
We
have
you
know
a
Kilns
at
a
number
of
our
senior
centers.
G
People
are
doing
Pottery
or
making
arts
and
crafts
that
are
really
like.
I
mean
that
can
be
sold.
I
mean
we
have
these
beautiful
wreaths
that
seniors
are
making
at
the
beach
view,
Senior
Center
and
then
for
young
people
yeah.
We
have
the
same
thing:
we've
done
media
technology
like
kind
of
getting
more
involved,
not
even
just
in
just
coding,
which
is
for
everyone,
and
actually
this
last
summer
we
had
four
instructors
and
three
of
the
four
were
female
instructors.
G
So
I
always
think
it's
really
empowering
for
young
people
to
see
themselves
and
and
the
instructors
that
are
actually
teaching
those
things,
and
particularly
since
we
know
that
in
Tech
you
know,
there's
a
gender
gap
by
way
of
pay
and
access,
and
you
know
in
the
tech
industry.
So
that's
really
important
to
us,
and
then
we
also
do
a
lot
around
culinary
and
that's
actually
been
yeah.
We
have
a
really
awesome
food
program
that
actually
was
started
at
Langley
in
the
after
school.
G
It
was
modeled
after
what
we've
done
at
Langley
to
have
like
this
kind
of
culinary
experience.
We've
done
it
now
at
Polson
we
have
a
food
program
and
then,
at
the
all
of
our
summer
camps
we
had
professional
chefs
from
Craft
who
came
in
and
taught
about
the
elements
of
pizza
and
every
young
person.
You
know
worked
in
teams
to
make
their
own
pizzas
and
understand
the
difference
between
the
different
cheeses
and
the
different
sauces
and
why
tomato
sauce
is
different
than
the
sauce.
G
L
Can
I
I
just
want
to
add
this
I
love
what
you
said,
because
when
there
was
a
time
I
was
acting
centered
acting
director
for
the
department
and
I
looked
at
that
that
was
so
important
to
me
that
we
found
programs
for
women
that
they
were
able
to
do
things
other
than
just
the
sports
activities,
because
we
wanted
I
went
to
McGee
one
day.
I'll
put
this
out,
there,
I
went
to
McGee
one
day
and
I
went
in
there
and
I
saw
all
these
boys
I
said
we're
the
women
in
this
program.
L
Where
are
they?
We
need
to
include
the
woman,
and
now
we
have
them
coming
in
I
gave
them
the
directive
of
you
need
to
find
something
for
the
woman
to
do
right.
We
can't
have
this
all
about
just
the
young
man
coming
in,
and
that
was
the
change.
That
was
the
start
that,
yes,
we
are
finding
programs
for
women.
We
do
programs
for
women
and
we've
been
following
through
with
that
all
these
years
and
making
sure
there
are
other
programs
as
Catherine
talked
about,
because
it's
so
important
that
we
include
everybody
everyone.
L
M
M
There
and
also
I
I
I,
reached
out,
probably
a
couple
of
months
ago
now
after
I
had
toured
West
Penn
rec
center
in
Polish
Hill,
because
there
was
a
kind
of
life
skills
for
disabled
adults
program.
D
M
M
I
I'm,
so
excited
that
there's
both
maker
things
kind
of
there's
that
there's
a
kind
of,
in
my
mind
at
overlapping
Venn
diagram
between
Tech
space
and
Makerspace,
and
then
this
kind
of
like
food
we're
now
calling
it
Food
Systems
right.
So
everything
from
food
production
to
food
processing
and
retailing
and
distribution.
And
it's
a
really
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
enthusiasm.
And
it's
really
where
a
lot
of
our
kind
of
like
newer
businesses
and
younger
businesses
and
Entrepreneurship
is
the
neighborhood
level.
M
So
I
think
it's
a
really
neat
overlap
and
it
sounds
like
you've
got
touching
some
of
those
programs,
I'm
I'm
such
a
crush
on
the
craft
program
at
Chatham
and
pre-covet,
especially
they're.
Putting
out
all
these
things
on
their
Facebook
page
of
like
classes.
They
were
taking
from
like
how
to
butcher
an
entire
cow
to
like
how
to
make
Indian
spices
in
your
own
and
like
kind
of
how
to
make
your
own
yogurt,
like
everything
in
between
and
I
kept
thinking
like.
M
Oh,
my
gosh
I
want
to
take
all
these
classes,
but
I
have
I
think
these
are
my
retirement
I'm
looking
for
like
retirement
things,
I
could
do
now,
but
let's
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
food.
We
also
found
ourselves
recently
approving
your
900
000
budget
for
your
it's
basically
summer.
This.
M
Thank
you
both
okay,
after
school
and
summer,
and
but
we
know,
that's
not
enough
right
and
we
know
that
there's
been
there's
something
like
almost
10
inflation
this
year
in
in
the
food
sector
and
eight
percent
I
think
the
year
before,
and
so
that
budget
has
not
grown,
and
so
you
could
probably
feed
more
people.
If
we
gave
you
more
money.
G
Yeah
one
of
our
and
just
one
of
the
challenges
with
that
particular
program
is
that
every
year
because
the
cost
of
food
production
is
going
up,
we
have
we
partner
with
Pittsburgh
Public
to
help
us
by
being
the
food
producer
and
we
renegotiate
our
rates
for
every
meal
and
our
rates
for
meals
go
up.
G
Our
contract
isn't
necessarily
so
it
does
become
a
little
bit
and
a
little
bit
more
crunched
with
each
year
when
the
trend
is
that
production
is
up,
and
so
we
understand,
like
you
know,
we
have
operating
costs,
they
have
operating
costs
and
us
trying
to
kind
of
navigate.
What
that
looks
like
can
be
a
little
tricky.
We
do
always
come
to
a
space
where
we
can
operate,
but
that's
one
of
the
real
challenges
in
that
in
that
budget.
Is
that
just
the
trend
over
time?
M
Okay,
so
right
so
that
all
of
the
money
we've
allocated
is
going
into
that
contract.
Yes,
I
didn't
mind
us
spending
just
a
little
bit
of
time.
Speaking
to
the
rules
around
food,
because
we've
heard
a
lot
of
public
comment
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
especially
how
it
kind
of
was
actually
better,
both
in
kind
of
kids,
Foods
programs
and
Senior
food
programs,
which
is
separate
from
here.
So
you
can
separate
your
comments.
L
On
the
senior
side,
what
happened
was
with
the
county?
They
have
rules
about
how
they're
going
to
provide
the
meals
for
us
and
I
know
that
we
had
frozen
meals
during
covid
and
the
people
would
come.
They
necessarily
didn't
want
to.
You
know
they're,
not
always
participants
in
our
centers,
but
they
signed
up
for
the
centers,
so
they
could
get
the
frozen
meals
and
now
we're
back
to
hot
meal
service
where
they
need
to
come
to
the
center
and
eat
their
meal.
L
M
G
G
So
that
is
a
federal.
Both
are
federal
programs
administered
at
the
state
level,
so
the
rules
around
it
and
the
waivers
that
were
received
so
that
we
could
do
take-home
meals,
we're
Federal
waivers.
So
there
were
waivers
on.
You
know
the
congregate
feeding
sites
having
to
be
congregate
during
covid,
and
there
was
an
extension
of
a
waiver
that
passed
this
last
year.
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
heard.
G
That
is
positive,
but
not
necessarily
like
locked
in
at
this
point
is
that
people
do
recognize
that
the
waivers
provided
greater
access
to
families.
It
didn't
dictate
how
you
get
food.
It's
not
saying
like
we
want
to
give
you
food,
but
you
have
to
you,
have
to
get
it
in
this
way.
It
allowed
for
flexibility,
for
families
to
the.
M
G
Yeah-
and
that
is
I
mean
it
is
that's-
that's
definitely
part
of
the
re.
So
when
you
get
into
the
details
of
the
rules,
you
cannot
leave
anything.
You
can't
leave
with
any
of
the
food
there's
a
lot
of
regulation
of
that
food
and
then
during
covid.
What
we
also
had,
though
we
had
different
donations,
come
in
from
other
folks,
and
we
were
able
to
distribute
beyond
what
we
distribute
through
that
contract,
and
so
that
was
also
unique.
G
M
M
M
So
both
things
are
true.
That
contract
is
actually
not
even
enough
money.
We
could
do
more
of
that
contract
and
you
could
feed
more
people
with
it.
You
could
provide
more
food,
but
then
also
we
could
have
another
line
again
kind
of
over
here
in
the
after
school
and
summer
meals
things
we
could
add
more
money
outside
of
that
contract
with
a
different
contract
that
has
more
flexible
rules.
G
Yeah
I
mean
yeah
that
wouldn't
be
something
we
couldn't
do
and
because
we've
done
it,
I
mean
during
covid.
We
were
operating
both
that
plus
the
support
that
we
received
to
do
family
dinners
and
different
take-home
opportunities
for
families.
M
So
a
fun
topic
right.
Let's
shift
to
you've
got
in
non-personnel
changes,
there's
additional
funds
for
farmers,
markets
and
I'm,
actually
looking
at
just
the
kind
of
additive
funds,
I'm
not
looking
at
the
place
where
it
shows
me
so.
G
What
we,
what
we
actually
did
is
we
moved
the
farmers
markets
programming
outside
of
the
special
events,
trust
fund,
and
that
was
intentional
because
special
events,
so
if
you
go
back
farmers
markets
originally
were
not
part
of
the
special
events
per
view,
because
they
aren't
necessarily
events.
I
mean
they
truly
are
a
service
to
the
public,
and
so
part
of
revamping.
The
farmers
markets
is
also
to
connect
it
more
closely
with
our
other
food
programs
so
kind
of
having
it
be
its
own
thing.
It's
a
lot.
G
I
mean
I'm,
just
going
to
be
real
I've,
been
learning
a
lot
about
farmers
markets
and,
what's
going
on
out
there
and
there's
so
much
potential,
which
is
fantastic,
but
there's
a
lot
to
do
to
kind
of
rebuild
our
farmers
markets
footprint
by
way
of
the
ones
that
the
city
operates.
We
have
partners
that
also
have
wonderful
farmers
markets
and
making
sure
that
we're
present
and
that
the
quality
of
the
farmers
market
isn't
dependent
on
the
fact
that
it's
a
well-resourced,
neighborhood
that
you
know
everybody's
there
to
buy.
G
You
got
to
think
about
the
fact
that
it's
a
bottom
line
for
Farmers,
but
when
you
know
we
only
have
a
handful
of
Market
Folks
up
at
the
Carrick
Market.
To
me.
That
means
that
we're
not
providing
the
same
level
of
service
as
we
are
in
like
Squirrel
Hill.
So
how
do
we
make
sure
that
all
of
our
markets
are
just
as
strong
so
that
all
residents
are
getting
access?
And,
even,
if
you
think
about,
like
you,
know,
access
out
in
the
West
End
like
how
do
we
also
make
sure
that
the
footprint
of
markets.
M
Couldn't
agree
more
I
think
that
food
markets
and
public
markets
are
actually
a
core
function
of
cities.
Almost
the
reason
cities
began
to
exist
right,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
and
we
should
not
act
like
it's
just
fluff,
really
making
sure
that
we
are.
You
know
our
citizens
have
a
market
for
food,
is
one
of
our
critical
core
functions
and
can
actually
get
what
they
need
on
a
daily
basis,
so
another
one
of
our
happy
fun
and
but
also
topics
I'm,
really
happy
to
see.
G
So
we
got
them
started
late
this
year,
so
they've
been
on
the
hitting
the
ground
running
the
last
two
months.
Two
part-timers
who
are
really
at
this
point,
they've
been
getting
to
know
The
Who
The
Growers
are
so
we've
done
some
work
to
get
to
know
the
folks
who
are
involved
in
adopt-a-lots
across
the
city.
We've
done
some
work
to
get
to
understand
the
folks
who
are
part
of
our
DPW
managed
Community
Gardens,
the
gardens
that
exist
in
the
Parks
and
the
goal
of
it
is
to
then
figure
out.
G
What
does
it
look
like
for
us
to
Pro
to
support
food
producing
across
all
the
entire
city,
so
to
kind
of
take
some
of
that
work
and
make
it
work
for
every
district
and
so
we're
just
at
the
very
beginning
of
that.
So
we
haven't.
You
know
the
new
year.
That
will
definitely
be
some
new
energy
and
we'll
be
coming
to
all
of
council
districts.
To
have
that
conversation.
M
So
I'm,
really
it's
it's
really
great
to
have
a
city
Department,
proactively,
engaged
and
support
this.
What
is
citizen-led
mostly
right
so
mostly
adopt
a
lots
and
the
Community
Gardens
on
on
farms,
but
also
the
kind
of
independent
Farms
that
have
popped
up
on
on
City
Parks
have
really
been
initiated
by
the
people
in
those
neighborhoods
and
so
to
be
able
to
say.
Like
sure
you
know,
yeah,
we
can
help
you
or
you
know.
Yes,
you
were
definitely
allowed
to
do
this
here.
M
You
know
what
we're
going
to
show
up
with
the
orange
Fest
and
we
have
gloves-
and
you
know,
we'll,
come
and
make
sure
the
stuff
gets
picked
up
when
we
leave
to
be
able
to
have
City
departments,
DPW
and
Parks
and
Rec.
You
know
coordinate
to
be
like
yes,
we
can
dump
off
wood
chips
on
the
day
that
you
need
them,
so
that
they're
there.
So
you
can
do
your
tree
planting
and,
yes,
we
have
shovels
and
you
know
to
have
just
the
basic
cooperation.
Is
it's
been
really
really
great
and
we
have
this
I?
M
Actually
don't
have
the
exact
account
for
this
year.
I
know
that
there's
been
something
like
on
top
of
the
annual
vegetable
gardening
150
food
trees
planted
in
my
district
in
the
last
two
years,
so
the
paw,
paws,
Persimmons
and
hazelnuts
are
all
Native
elderberries
juneberries.
We
have
a
whole
list
now
of
kind
of
native
species
that
neighbors
want
to
plant
and
to
buy
a
remeet.
M
It's
also
better,
because
they're
fighting
the
invasives
on
our
hillsides
and
in
our
forests
and
kind
of
re-bio
remediating
them
so
that
they're,
more
stable
and
and
then
food
bearing
as
well.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that
and
the
directions
that
we
can
go
in.
I
won't
belabor,
but
I'm
really
glad
to
see
that
we
are
committed
to
opening
more
pools
again.
I,
give
you
credit
for
helping
us
figure
out
how
that
we
can
keep
our
our
Personnel
recruiting
them
and
then
keeping
them
year
round.
M
So
really
appreciate
that
and
again
anything
that
Council
can
do
to
be
helpful.
We
we
want
to
do
so
well,.
M
J
Sure
thank
you,
councilwoman
and
I'm
just
going
to
ask
a
question
for
councilwoman
elect
Barb
Warwick
who's
actually
attended
as
many
meetings
as
all
of
us,
if
not
more
so.
I
just
want
to
thank
her
she's,
always
sitting
over
the
side.
J
She
just
has
a
question
she's
like
she's
interested
in
piloting
some
satellite
programs
for
seniors
and
kids
in
the
31st
Ward
at
the
Presbyterian
church
and
possibly
at
Midland
School.
Is
there
any
money
in
the
budget
and
in
the
23
budget
for
new
initiatives
like
that.
G
So
in
the
current
senior
budget,
not
specifically,
there
isn't,
but
there
is
a
way,
and
actually
this
is
something
I've
talked
with
council
person
strasburger
about
too
for
Oakland.
We
have
the
ability
to
do
satellite
programming
through
our
senior
centers,
which
would
mean
that
what
that
means
is
that,
like
I'll,
give
an
example
of
Hazelwood,
also
programs
and
provides
meals
at
glenhazel
through
the
Housing
Authority.
G
It's
not
our
Regular
programming,
it's
more
limited,
but
it
allows
for
us
to
activate
a
space
and
what
I
would
say
is
that,
because
the
senior
program
is
fully
funded
by
the
county,
we
are,
you
know
in
cdbg
and
you'll
notice,
that
there
was
some
extra
money
put
in
there.
That
is
because
it's
similar
to
the
food
program.
Every
year
it
gets
Tighter
and
Tighter
and
Tighter,
because
the
money
doesn't
necessarily
change.
We
can
look
at
what
it
would
mean
to
do.
G
Satellite
programming
in
partnership
with
that
organization
and
then
see
you
know,
I'll
have
to
think.
What's
the
closest
Senior
Center
to
that.
G
Greenfield
Greenfield
yeah,
so
we
could
do
some
partnership
things
and
then,
if
it
blossoms
enough
look
into
what
it
means
to
create
it
more
holistically
and
same
with
Oakland,
we
were
looking
at
doing
some
outdoor
programming
potentially
in
spaces
in
Oakland,
in
partnership
with
the
south
side,
which
would
be
the
closest
Senior
Center,
and
what
so
that
allows
us
we
actually
will
get
reimbursed
on
satellite
programming.
So
one
of
the
things
with
the
county
is
that
we
get
points
for
how
many
activities
we
do
so
we
actually
win
by.
G
By
doing
this
too,
it
doesn't
necessarily
it's
not
a
negative
to
go
out
and
do
additional
programming
in
other
places.
It's
the
same
thing
if
we,
when
we
take
seniors
off
site,
but
anyone
can
participate
and
be
a
member
of
that,
so
so
yes,
but
not
not
fi
I
mean
there's
a
way
to
do
it.
It's
our
budget
is
not
diff
hasn't
changed.
J
But
you'll
be
working
with
her
when
she
gets
elected,
Oh
yeah
and
when
she's
sworn
in
schedule,
a
meeting
with
her
please
and
then
get
that
okay
and
get
that
started.
Okay,
you
agree
with
that:
councilwoman,
okay,
just
making
sure
and
for
me
I
I,
get
upset
because
we
don't
have
a
farmer's
market
in
in
all
of
District
Two,
but
part
of
ebony
Lunsford.
The
former
girl
ebb's
success
has
been.
We
haven't
had
a
farmer's
market
in
District
Two.
J
If
you
know
who
she
is
when
actually
it
was
my
future
daughter-in-law
who
said
to
me:
hey,
do
you
know
farmer,
girl,
M
and
I
said
I
have
no
idea
who
you're
talking
about
so
she's
on
your
Facebook
page,
but
anyway
we
connected
and
she
started,
selling
produce
from
she
that
she
grows
in
Sheridan
out
of
a
corner
market
that
I
negotiated
with
some
other
developer
to
give
to
the
community
and
she
started
selling
produce
there.
Christy
Porter
saw
her
on
social
media
on
my
page
and
then
she.
J
Her
and
asked
her
if
she
could
provide
produce
for
400
people
and
then
from
there
somebody
offered
her
a
space
we
offered
her
Shelly
Danko
day
has
been
amazing.
She
offered
her
a
love,
your
block
Lots,
two
of
them
that
were
abandoned
and
now
it's
a
farm
and
she
teaches
kids
farming
and
she
opened
a
storefront
and
she's
getting
ready
to
open
another.
So
all
that
came
because
we
didn't
have
a
farmer's
market
in
our
district,
but
now
she's
pretty
busy.
So
we
need
a
farmer's
market
in
our
district.
Well,.
G
In
our
Shelly
took
our
two
part-time
City
Farms
folks
on
a
tour
out
I'll
see
it
I
wasn't
able
to
make
that.
G
One
but
I
am
excited
to.
J
Yeah
I
think
it's
go
ahead,
Council,
but
you
know
it
was
good
for
her,
but
what
I'm
trying?
What
I
want
to
say
is
that
we
need
a
farmer's
market
in
our
district
again
and
even
if
it's
just
a
pop-up
site
here
or
there
I
mean
just
think
differently-
think
outside
the
box
a
little
bit
to
bring
some
to
our
neighborhoods
and
our
area
is
so
spread
out,
because
I
think
we
have
the
most
Geographic
miles
in
our
district.
J
The
directors
are
looking
to
EMC
if
I'm
right,
but
we
have
the
most
Geographic
miles
in
our
district.
We
spread
out
that
far.
So,
if
you
do
something
in
the
West
End,
it
doesn't
cover
Banksville,
it
doesn't
cover
Mount
Washington,
it
doesn't
cover
2K
nights
and
oftentimes.
It
doesn't
cover
ferrywood,
which
is,
or
you
know
some
of
the
other
further
neighborhoods.
So
for
me,
pop-up
sites
or
little
sites
here
and
there
would
be-
would
be
something.
J
I
would
hope
that
you
would
think
about
and
also
I
know
you
do
a
lot
at
Langley,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
there
are
several
other
schools
in
my
district.
That
I
hope
that
you
know
they
could
use
some
help
too
I
mean
Banksville
Westwood,
Greenway
PCA,
that
building,
which
is
where
Crafton
Heights
the
Mountain
View
Apartments
are
and
there's
a
lot
of
immigrants
in
that
area
and
a
lot
of
single-family
households.
J
So
some
programs
up
in
that
area
would
be
helpful
to
them
as
well
and
Whittier,
who
is
in
Mount
Washington,
everybody
thinks
is
so
wealthy
I
mean,
has
a
lot
of
poverty
behind
Grandview,
Avenue,
so
I
hope
people
don't
forget
about
those
those
areas
and
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
the
sports
part.
I
heard
you
talking
a
little
bit
about
just
give
me
a
little
synopsis
of
of
what
you're
thinking.
G
Yeah
yeah,
we
are
doubling
our
capacity
there
with
the
hope
to
get
involved
in
more
sports
like
right
now,
we've
had
one
he's,
awesome
Steve
has
been
running
our
City
Sports
and
it's
been
because
it's
just
him,
we've
been
on
sort
of
a
calendar
of
sports.
We
can
be
involved
in
so
the
two
things
that
I
foresee
this
individual
doing
is
expanding
what
we
can
offer
and
how
we
can
support
teams
and
then
also
building
like
more
strategic
Partnerships
with
those
teams.
G
I
feel
like
you
know,
because
Steve
is
so
focused
on
the
operations
of
leagues,
we're
also
not
thinking
about
how
we
are
bringing
like.
How
do
we
understand
Sports
in
the
city?
What
are
we
saying
about
how
we,
as
a
city,
support
that
we're
we're
going
to
be
working
pretty
closely
with
Public
Safety
with
the
Stop
the
Violence
work
I
already,
the
assistant
director
has
reached
out
to
me
about
getting
that
conversation
started
about
you
know.
If
groups
are
being
supported,
how
do
we
also
offer
support?
G
G
You
know
through
through
the
grants
process
and
got
to
know
more
sports
leagues
that
way
and
I
foresee
us
just
increasing
our
ability
to
do
that.
Working
in
partnership
with
folks,
like
you
know,
what's
going
on
with
Stop
the
Violence
trust
fund
and
really
trying
to
create
you
know
in
a
year
or
two
from
now,
I
would
hope,
we'd
be
able
to
say
as
a
city,
here's
all
our
sports
teams
serving
kids,
here's
how
we're
supporting
them.
G
F
J
G
J
J
Opens
I
hope,
I'm
living,
but
anyways
I'm
getting
old,
but
anyway,
one
of
the
things
I.
An
absence
of
that
I
would
like
to
see
more
programs
from
city
parks
in
just
our
actual
Parks.
We
put
that
they
put
DPW
put
an
amazing
Park
in
in
Elliott.
It
was
a
million
dollars
to
do
the
park,
the
walk
with
the
drop
the
street
next
to
it,
the
wall,
everything
it
was
beautiful,
Park
and
it
was
like
a
week
later.
J
It
was
almost
totally
destroyed
because
you
know
kids
are
going
there
with
no
supervision,
so
it'd
be
nice
to
have
somebody
doing
some
programming
in
those
playground
areas.
Whether
where
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
kids
that
come,
you
know
just
to
get
up
to
get
away
and
to
do
things.
It'd
be
nice
to
have
some
some
Supervision
in
the
parks
for
the
kids
and
I
know
that
parents
would
be
ideal.
You
know,
but
a
lot
of
their
parents.
J
Some
do
but
there's
some
with
some
some
issues
and
some
concerns.
So
it'd
be
nice.
If
we
could
supplement
that
somehow
so
just
I'd
like
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
then
the
Brian
Katz
he's
you
said,
he's
staying
with
special
he's
playing
with
Public
Safety.
G
G
Yeah,
it's
all
the
permits
of
events
that
other
folks
hold,
that
aren't
the
city
so
like
the
Grand
Prix.
Is
that.
G
G
Year,
four:
five:
six,
six,
six
six.
G
Supervisor
is
Beth,
who
is
the
current
assistant
director
assistant
manager
and
so
to
Reese,
to
recalibrate
that
we,
because
there's
not
a
manager,
there's
not
you
know,
assistant.
We
made
that
person
supervisor
and
then
the
coordinators
increases.
G
Not
beyond
the
the
two
percent,
but
what
we
did
do
is
we
are
making
sure
that
all
coordinators
in
our
department
are
being
paid
the
same,
because
now
they
are
all
in
our
department,
and
so
you
might
see
that
some
coordinators,
like
our
coordinators,
have
been
traditionally
paid
less
as
a
result
of
for
whatever
reason.
G
G
J
And
I
I
have
other
things,
but
I'll
call
you
about
them,
I,
just
anyone
to
go
over
some
of
those
things.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
I
really
want
to
that.
You
understand:
I
really
want
something,
some
kind
of
farmer's
market
or
something
in
my
district.
Oh.
J
I'm
gonna
say
this
again:
anytime
you're
doing
anything
in
my
district
or
across
the
city.
I
want
to
make
sure
you
think
north
south
east,
west
and
Central
like
we
did
when
we
worked
with
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools
and
wireless
neighborhoods.
Where
is
that,
where
we
worked
right?
Yes,
okay,
different
places
where
we
always
think
of
you
know
the
sectors
of
the
city
and
then
Central,
so
that
that
way,
you're
not
excluding
or
leaving
any
part
of
the
city
out
May.
L
I
add
something
please
I
just
want
to
tell
you
I
hear
a
council
I,
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
it,
but
this
month
for
our
senior
centers,
we
are
doing
a
Christmas
party
for
them
and
we
had
one
already
and
there's
one
today,
they're,
absolutely
loving
it.
L
We
have
taken
them
to
the
Marshall
mansion
and
it's
all
decorated.
It's
called
a
country.
Christmas
Community
Richmond
has
decorated
the
Mansion
so
beautifully
and
we
are
taking
them
there.
We've
been
taking
that
we've
done
our
shuttle,
City
shuttles
and
we're
driving
them
over
from
their
centers
and
they're,
getting
all
dressed
up
for
Christmas.
The
seniors
are
because
of
covid.
You
know
they
enjoy
some
celebration
and
we
know
some
people
don't
have
family.
L
So
what
we're
doing
is
we've
provided
them
with
a
lunch,
a
box
lunch
and
then
we're
having
a
program
for
an
hour.
We
have
a
string,
quartz
have
this
playing
for
them
for
an
hour
program,
and
then
we
have
a
chef,
that's
come
in
and
he's
giving
them
a
demonstration
on
how
to
make
icing
and
they
we've
provided
them
cookies,
and
they
are
sitting
there
decorating
the
cookies.
L
And
then
we
take
pictures
of
each
Center
we're
doing
three
centers
today
on
Tuesdays
and
Thursdays,
we've
been
doing
them
and
they
are
just
so
thankful
and
so
happy
that
we're
doing
this
for
them,
because
we
really
care
about
them
and
they're
really
enjoying
themselves.
So.
J
J
I
mean
and
and
the
and
I
want
to
say,
Pat
freeze
is
not
a
director,
nor
does
she
ever
want
to
be.
Yes,.
L
L
J
And
but
her
Noreen
Julie,
they.
J
D
J
And
it's
the
also
the
department
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
the
trust
I
know
we
did
that
one
Park,
Tax
trust
fund
and
we'll
start
with
director
Pollock
and
who
would
you
like
to
join
you.
K
B
Sure
in
November
of
2019
voters
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
approved
a
referendum
that
amended
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
Homeworld
Charter,
to
establish
a
trust
fund
to
collect
for
the
Improvement
of
the
city
parks.
The
parks
tax
shall
be
funded
in
part
by
adding
a
0.5
Mills
to
the
real
estate
tax
rate.
The
parks
tax
trust
fund
may
also
receive
monies
and
contributions
from
additional
sources.
B
A
quick
overview,
like
I,
said
the
revenues
come
from
the
0.5
mil
property
tax
increase
to
City
of
Pittsburgh
property
taxes.
Expenditures
include
the
Improvement
maintenance,
the
creation
and
operation
of
public
parks,
improving
Park
safety,
providing
Equitable
funding
for
parks
in
un
under
served
neighborhoods
securing
matching
funds.
I
know
right,
securing
matching
funds
and
services
from
charitable
city
parks,
conservancies,
subject
to
city
council
authorization.
B
A
summary
of
non-personnel
changes.
Overall,
five
million
852
186
dollar
increase
in
non-personnel
expenses
due
to
eighty
six
thousand
dollars
increase
in
maintenance,
228
000
increase
in
Machinery
equipment
and
a
5.5
million
dollar
transfer
to
Capital.
K
Thank
you,
director
McDevitt,
as
the
the
summary
that
was
just
provided
entails.
Parks
tax
trust
fund
is
one
of
the
city's
major
trust
funds
for
a
special
Revenue
accounts.
It
is
the
repository
for
funds
collected
as
a
result
of
the
parks
tax,
which
was
established
by
referendum.
As
director
McDevitt
mentioned
in
fiscal
year,
2022
revenues
into
the
trust
fund
were
approximately
9
million
dollars
and
in
fiscal
year
2023
they
are
projected
to
be
about
10.9
million
dollars,
which
is
consistent
with
real
estate
tax
increase
projections
across
the
board.
K
The
city
began
collecting
those
funds
in
2021
during
fiscal
year,
2021
no
expenditures
were
made,
which
is
consistent
with
I,
think,
a
small
C
conservative
right,
a
a
a
reasonable
approach
to
the
collection
and
distribution
of
new
tax
funds.
While
we
don't
have
a
strong
record
of
what
what
receipts
will
approximate
in
order
to
ensure
financial
responsibility
and
solvency.
D
K
Because
the
funds
that
are
collected
to
support
the
parks,
tax
trust
fund
are
based
on
a
real
estate
tax
millage
and
we
have
a
strong
record
of
you-
know:
financial
performance
for
real
estate
tax
generally,
the
fiscal
year
2023
budget
proposes,
for
the
first
time
since
the
tax
has
been
collected,
to
spend
not
just
prior
year
collections,
but
also
projected
current
year
funds.
So
you
will
see
a
significant
infusion
of
funding
to
operations,
maintenance
and
capital
projects.
In
this
proposed
budget.
We
project
retaining
a
approximately
four
million
dollar
ending
balance
for
the
year
after
2023.
K
2024,
some
funds
do
need
to
be
retained
for
continuity
of
service,
because
we
don't
see
the
funds
coming
into
those
accounts
until
the
end
of
the
first
quarter.
So
while,
while
you'll
see
a
projecting,
ended
balance
here
of
nearly
four
million
dollars,
in
essence,
our
goal
is
to
ensure
that
the
fund
has
consistently
over
the
course
of
all
operating
quarters,
has
an
adequate
balance.
K
This
Administration
has
focused
on
the
same
Equity
lens
that
was
articulated
at
the
time
of
the
the
fund's
creation
and
enactment
in
ensuring
that
funds
are
distributed
in
ways
that
allow
for
Accelerated
investment
in
underserved,
non-rad
or
non-regional
Parks
such
that
all
pittsburghers
enjoy.
You
know:
access
to
a
quality,
recreational
opportunities
in
our
Park
spaces,
so
for
reasons
discussed
in
the
DPW
hearing
earlier
today
and
in
the
parks
and
recs
Parks
and
Rec
hearing
that
concluded
immediately
before
this
one,
there
are
investments
in
Personnel
that
correspond
to
the.
K
Projected
needed,
Parks
maintenance
staff
in
this
budget,
I
I
believe
we
reach
the
projected
need
that
was
articulated
at
the
time
of
the
original
Passage
through
the
the
Investments
proposed
in
this
budget.
Significant
needs
in
deferred
maintenance
requirements,
including
the
equipment
and
Machinery
necessary
to
meet
our
basic
service
level.
K
Goal
for
Parks
is
included
here,
as
well
as
numerous
investments
in
Capital
Improvements
within
parks.
The
best
way
to
sort
of
slice.
That
up
is
that
the
operating
portion
of
the
proposed
allocation
here
is
5.97
million
dollars
or
34
of
the
funds
available
in
2023,
so
about
a
third
of
available
funds
dedicated
to
operating
costs
associated
with
maintenance.
The
remaining
66
percent
of
funds
dedicated
to
capital
projects,
as
prioritized
through.
F
K
Equitable
investment
lens
articulated
at
the
time
that
the
the
tax
was
enacted,
in
fact,
of
the
20
priority
projects
listed
in
the
materials
certain
circulated
at
the
time
of
the
enactment
of
the
tax
15
are
underway
in
some
way
shape
or
form
in
which
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
in
Greater
detail.
So
that's
the
basics
of
the
the
financials
of
the
tax
directors.
If
you
want
to
speak
to
anything
further,
otherwise
we're
happy
to
take
your
questions.
G
I
mean
I'll
just
say
that
the
piece
of
it
that
directly
impacts
like
Recreation
facilities
in
our
senior
centers,
which
are
zoned
as
Parks,
they
are
part
of
the
park
system,
are
things
like
the
Locker
pool.
Locker
upgrades
the
fitness
equipment,
which
already
has
made
a
huge
difference.
G
Many
of
our
senior
centers
and
our
rec
centers
are
receiving
that
because,
if
you've
been
to
a
Rec,
Center,
you've
probably
seen
that
the
equipment
has
definitely,
you
know,
isn't
up
to
par
with
what
I
think
really
is
usable,
and
so
that
has
been
noted.
In
fact,
just
at
the
West
End
we
had
some
folks
who
sent
a
thank
you
letter.
It's
been
a
long
time
coming
in
that
space,
so
you
see
some
of
those
things.
G
Those
are
costs
that
over
the
five
years
go
down
because
once
they're
upgraded
it's
more
about
upkeep
of
making
sure
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we
are
running
on.
You
know,
running
centers
that
don't
have
the
you
know,
Baseline.
You
know
equipment
that
people
can
actually
use
and
that
that's
where
we
are
with
the
kind
of
some
of
the
Deferred
maintenance
within
our
facilities.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
one
project
in
here.
That
is
really
exciting.
G
For
for
recreation
is
the
Shenley
Park
Ice
Rink,
which
we
do
recognize,
is
in
a
Rad
Park,
but
rad
is
significantly
investing
in
that
and
it's
an
example
of
an
asset
that
is
used
by
everyone.
I
mean
we
had
over
18
000
people
there
last
season.
It
is
a
big
piece
of
our
seasonal
work
and
it
is
a
gem.
It's
the
only
publicly
run
a
facility
of
its
kind
in
our
in
our
city,
and
so
that
is
something
that
you
know.
If
we
weren't
able
to
get
this
done
this
year,
it's
it.
C
Thank
you,
director,
Vargas,
to
follow
up
on
that.
I
think
that
the
deputy
mayor
and
the
director
covered
a
lot
of
really
great
information.
To
only
add
you
know
consistent
with
my
earlier
budget
hearing.
You
know
it's
extremely
difficult
to
separate
the
vehicles
from
the
people.
People
need
vehicles
and
equipments
to
do
maintenance
and
there's
a
lot
of
deferred
investment
in
those
vehicles
and
equipment
and
parks
that
this
is
really
being
impactful
for
us.
C
You
know
the
other.
The
other
pieces
of
that
I
want
to
point
out
some
other
Parks
tax
funded
projects
that
were
consistent
with
you
know
the
prioritization
that
was
put
out
to
the
public.
You
see
in
this
year's
budget,
there's
a
trail
Asset
Management
plan.
C
You
know
to
help
us
get
a
handle
on
our
ever-growing
network
of
trails,
recreational
Trails
throughout
city
parks.
You
know
this
is
necessary
to
support
that
work
of
having
you
know,
consistently
maintained
asset
class.
You
know
previous
year
we
also
funded
a
you
know,
pools
condition,
assessment,
that's
along
that
same
line.
Those
are
those
are
things
that
allow
us
to
to
plan
and
program,
both
just
regular
operational
maintenance
procedures,
as
well
as
some
future
Capital
Improvements.
K
And
just
to
build
quickly
on
a
point
that
director
hornstein
just
made
the
one
of
the
foundational
requirements
of
expenditures
from
the
parks
tax
trust
fund
is
that
these
Investments
supplement
and
not
supplant,
fund
fun.
Funding
opportunities
that
would
otherwise
be
available
through
the
general
fund
and
as
it
relates
to
vehicle
Investments
currently
proposed
for
the
parks
tax
trust
fund.
K
I
would
point
to
the
fact
that
all
of
the
vehicle
acquisition
proposals
in
the
current
budget
as
it
relates
to
the
parks
tax,
are
ones
that
scored
lower
through
the
capital
project
facilitation
committee
scoring
process
than
the
lowest
funded
Capital
project,
meaning
that
sort
of
by
definition
they
are
necessary
investments
in
our
ability
to
maintain
and
provide
a
high
level
of
service
in
our
parks
that,
through
just
the
necessity
of
of
a
city
that
is
rebuilding
its
capacity
to
fund
critical
Capital
Investments
as
we
come
out
of
financial
oversight,
would
have
not
been
achievable
in
relation
to
other
priorities.
K
So
the
fund
is
serving
its
designated
purpose
in
providing
funds
that
would
only
be
available
to
park
Investments
and
would
not
be
achievable
without
a
dedicated,
Revenue
Source.
In
some
ways.
These
long
overdue,
but
greatly
necessary
investments
in
maintenance
capacity
would,
in
the
absence
of
the
parks,
tax
trust
fund,
be
much
needed
things
that,
as
in
many
other
cases,
we
would
have
to
Simply
wait
three
to
five
more
years
to
achieve
without
the
availability
of
dedicated
resources
when
weighed
against
other
critical
Necessities
in
public
safety
or
in
the
maintenance
of
our
right-of-way.
K
E
You,
madam
president,
thank
you
all
I
appreciate
the
overview.
I
just
want
to
ask
a
couple
questions
related
to
the
the
spirit
of
like
what
I
have
in
front
of
me,
which
is
the
overview.
E
You
know
the
spirit
as
explained
in
the
overview
which
I
think
the
the
paragraph
here
that
I'm
looking
at
where
it
says
expenditures
include
Improvement.
You
know:
maintenance,
the
creation
and
operation
of
public
parks,
improving
Public
Safety,
providing
Equitable
funding
for
parks
and
underserved
neighborhoods
securing
matching
funds
and
services
from
charitable
city
parks,
conservancies.
Subject:
the
city
council
authorization
I,
think
that
was
on
the
referendum.
E
E
You
know
what
is
their
So
currently
I,
don't
see
it
in
this
capital
budget,
but
moving
forward
in
the
future
like
like?
How
is
that?
How
do
you
see
that
relationship.
K
Yeah,
so
thank
you
councilman
for
asking
that
question
our
perspective.
K
The
the
administration's
perspective
I
mean,
which
we've
articulated
publicly
and
also
directly
to
the
Pittsburgh
Parks
Conservancy,
which
was
I,
think
it,
it
must
be
said,
was
instrumental
to
the
passage
and
Adoption
of
the
tax
levy
in
question
has
been
and
I
I
believe.
This
is
consistent
with
the
intention
of
the
voters
and
the
dialogue
that
occurred
at
corresponding,
with
the
passage
of
the
tax
that
the
fundamental
problem
that
our
Park
system
faces
is
twofold.
K
No
one,
no
mayor
or
Council
of
the
city
at
any
point
has
ever
said
that
Parks
aren't
important,
but
when
forced
to
make
very
difficult
choices,
it
was
understandable
that
investments
in
core
infrastructure
to
Greater
precedent
than
parks,
and
so
for
that
reason,
during
long
periods
of
time
when
difficult
choices
were
necessary.
The
Deferred
maintenance
in
Parks
grew
much
faster
than
the
Deferred
maintenance
in
other
categories
of
asset.
K
We
also
have
an
opportunity
to
invest
new
dollars
in
forward-looking
capital
projects
and
investments
in
our
recreational
amenities,
but
we
have
I
think
a
basic
responsibility
to
rebuild
our
capacity
to
do
the
maintenance
on
what
we
own
already
in
line
with,
but
but
you
know,
with
greater
Primacy
than
our
investments
in
in
new
offerings,
and
so
our
approach
as
an
Administration
has
been
to
focus
on
catching
up
as
quickly
as
possible
on
our
ability
to
provide
a
basic
level
of
service.
In
this
case,
Parks
maintenance
service,
as
we
can,
which
I
think
is.
K
It
relates
to
the
intention
of
the
voters
in
establishing
the
tax
at
the
time
that
the
parks
tax
was
passed.
It
was
I
think
well
documented
that
the
primary
the
the
the
objective
that
the
voters
articulated
most
clearly
was
a
desire
for
increased
support
for
maintenance
that
that
was
the
top
priority.
Second
to
that
was
Rehabilitation
or
refurbishment
of
existing
assets.
I
K
Then
new
investments
in
new
projects
came
after
that
and
so
to
that
end
the
budget
we've
articulated
I
think
is
an
aggressive
but
necessarily
responsive
approach
to
rebuilding
our
ability
to
do
that.
Work
that
includes
new
positions
that
include
Foods
support
for
equipment
and
Machinery.
To
achieve
that
work,
I
think
it
was
always
understood
that
there'd
be
a
period
of
rebuilding
in
our
internal
capacity
to
do
that.
Work
that
preceded
expansion
that
also
aligns
with
the
fiscal
state
of
the
city.
K
You
know,
as
as
I've
talked
about
at
this
table
before
arpa
funds
and
the
experience
of
covid
and
at
the
end
of
2024
we
retire
some
Legacy
debt
from
the
ACT
47
period
at
the
end
of
2026,
beginning
in
2027.
The
fiscal
outlook
for
the
city
is
very
strong,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
difficult.
B
K
As
to
make
as
a
group
between
now
and
then
to
improve
our
service
level,
while
maintaining
fiscal
solvency
until
we
get
to
the
other
side
of
that
debt
retirement,
so
we
we
foresee
a
scenario
in
which,
having
rebuilt
our
internal
capacity
to
do
basic
maintenance,
Investments
of
all
kinds,
including
investments
in
Partnership,
are
possible.
But
our
first
and
foremost
responsibility
is
getting
right.
Our
ability
to
do
in-house
what
we've
told
the
residents
of
the
city
we
are
capable
of
doing
yeah.
E
E
I
I
represent
a
district
that
has
benefited
from
the
Conservancy
through
multi-millionaire
projects.
Actually,
basically,
you
could
argue
that
they
are
the
ones
that
have
lifted
up
the
Commons
park
and
in
the
city,
I'm,
not
sure
the
exact
thought.
My
understanding
is
it's
very.
If
there
is
a
dollar
that's
very
low
on
the
investment
made,
so
they've
gone
out
of
their
way.
That
I've
seen
representing
my
district
to
invest
in.
Let's
just
say
that
Park
and
that's
our
oldest
Park
and
they've
they've
done
a
great
job
at.
G
E
And
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
from
this
Administration
what
you
know
what
type
of
partnership
would
be
created
in
you
know:
I
mean
I'm
not
seeing
it
here,
but
in
the
future,
I
mean
specifically
because
it
is,
you
know
in
the
some
of
the
guidelines
here
for
for
the
trust
fund,
and
so
when
I
look
at
these
projects,
I'm
wondering
you
know
if
we
pick
some
of
these
projects
like
or
even
in
the
future.
If
we
pick
any
capital
projects,
my
understanding
is
there's
an
opportunity
to
to.
K
E
K
I
I
I
agree
entirely
with
that
assessment.
Councilman
I
I
would
just
say
again
that,
with
a
huge
deficit
in
the
city's
ability
to
provide
its
its
own
basic
responsibility
in
Maintenance
and
Service
delivery
to
Residents
our
first,
our
first
objective
must
be
to
rebuild
that
capacity,
but.
E
K
Projects,
so,
even
as
it
relates
to
capital
investment
in
new
projects
among
the
20
highest
rated
projects
in
the
assessment
that
was
done
in
relation
to
the
passage
of
the
tax
the
city
has
completed
or
is
in
the
process
of
investing
in
Redevelopment
projects
in
15
of
those.
K
So
work
has
been
completed
at
Baxter
Park
Granville,
Park,
Townsend,
Park,
Larimer,
Park,
Polson,
Rec
Center
find
you
park
and
the
Bowsman
Street
playground
work
is
in
progress
at
McKinley
Park
design
work
is
in
progress
at
Spring,
Hill,
Park,
Fort,
Pitt,
Park,
Robert,
E,
Williams,
Park,
Sheridan,
Park
and
Homewood
Park.
K
We're
currently
soliciting
design
proposals
at
Jefferson,
Park,
Manchester,
Park,
Chadwick,
Park
and
Garland
Park,
preparing
Master
plans
in
Canard
Park
and
at
Eamon
Rec
Center,
beginning
a
community
visioning
work
at
East,
Hills
Park
and
have
budgeted
funds
in
2023
for
Eleanor
Street
Park,
which
I
believe
can
are
all
on
the
top
20
list
of
equity
lens
identified
projects
from
2029
when
the
the
tax
was
under
consideration,
so
I
I
think
once
again.
Our
our
point
of
view
is
that
recovering
and
rebuilding
our
ability
to
to
do
what
we
can
in-house.
E
E
K
What
it
sounds
like
I,
I
I
actually
I
can
I
can
invite
director
hornstein
to
speak
to
that
in
part.
The
the
list
I
just
read
to
you
was
meant
to
indicate
that
the
areas
of
investment
that
we've
identified
are
driven
by
a
commitment
to
ensuring
that
all
City
residents
have
access
to
high
quality
recreational
opportunities.
K
Some
of
the
Investments
we're
making
in
these
locations
are
what
we
view
to
be
holy
city
responsibilities
and
nonetheless,
though,
I
I
wanted
to
underscore
the
point
that
we
take
seriously
our
responsibility
with
this
source
of
funding
to
invest
beyond
the
regional
rad
Parks
and
in
in
all
neighborhoods.
So
Chris
do
you
want
to
just
sort
of
talk
to
the
way
in
which
those
projects
you.
E
Don't
need
to,
let
me
just
leave
it.
I
want
to
just
tailor
my
my
focus,
if
you
don't
mind
sure
yeah,
so
the
so
just
help
me
understand,
because
if
they
spend
a
mill,
if
the
person
service
you
spend
a
million
dollars
in
the
Commons
and
I,
don't
think
there
was.
There
was
Zero
money
from
the
city
at
the
time
you
know
so
that
was
definitely
a
good
one
for
us,
because
we
made
out
that
is
not
a
Rad
Park
and
they
did
that
previously
and
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
E
If
there's
you
know
a
million
dollars
being
spent
on
some
Park
here,
you
know
it's
not
a
rat
Park
and
they're
willing
to
take
on
the
work
and
they
can
leverage
more
money.
Isn't
that
cheaper
for
us.
C
C
You
know
time
consuming
not
reason
not
to
do
so,
and
I
would
note
too,
that
you
know
we
do
partner
on
a
variety
of
projects
already
under
agreement
with
in-house
resources,
where
appropriate
and
applicable,
and
some
of
those
do
include
the
comments
you
know
and
I
would
also
point
out
that
you
know
there
still
exists
opportunities
for
projects
in
under
work,
too
benefit
from
partnership
for
work.
That's
under
design,
where
appropriate,
applicable,
where,
where
folks
want
to
contribute.
E
All
right,
I
just
want
to
make
you
know
open
that
conversation
as
to
like
how
I'm
too
you
know.
I
am
on
the
council
side.
I'm,
definitely
interested
in.
You
know
the
the
reinvestment
in
our
in
our
parks
and
to
figure
out
a
path
that
we
could.
You
know
gain
more
for
Less,
so
yeah
well.
K
E
That's
where
I'm
at
with
it
so
I
think
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
here
and
I'm,
just
not
seeing
it
in
this
Capital
budget
in
front
of
me
and
I'm.
You
know
just
want
to
continue
the
conversation
to
how
we
can
make
that
happen,
because
I
know
that
I've
seen
district
one
benefit.
E
You
know
from
from.
You
know
that
conservancy
and
you
know,
given
that
it's
in
the
the
overview
here
you
know
I
just
think,
there's
there's
something
we
could
do.
K
May
I
speak
to
that
slightly
further
councilman.
The
the
I
I
think
that
the
method
of
deployment
of
parks,
tax
funds
and
the
question
of
additional
leverage
from
partnership
are
connected
to
a
degree,
but
not
a
one-to-one
relationship.
Right
as
as
director
hornstein
was
mentioning.
K
We
have
a
strong
history
which
we
celebrate
and
you
fully
embrace
the
ability
to
continue
of
leveraging
public
investment
as
a
catalyst
for
additional
supplementary
investment
from
private
sources
as
coordinated
through
the
Pittsburgh,
Parks,
Conservancy
or
others.
I
think.
The
key
question
for
us
here
is
less
the
the
method
of
deployment
of
public
funds
and,
more
so,
the
the
necessity
to
catch
up
on
our
obligation,
our
responsibility
as
a
city
proper
it
to
make
maintenance
investments
in
assets
that
have
been
ignored
for
too
long
I.
K
Think
in
a
world
in
which
we
have
caught
up
on
that
basic
responsibility
which
the
parks
tax
is
vital
to
our
ability
to
do
any
manner
of
other
things
are
possible
and-
and
we
have
no
I,
think
opposition
or
predilection
against
partnership
in
that
context.
But
we
recognize
that
there
are
basic
things
that
we
need
to
deliver.
First,.
E
Well,
I'm
interested
to
continue
that
conversation
as
to
how
we
can
you
know,
you
know
basically
leverage
money.
That's
out
there
that's
been
used
in
our
Parks
previously,
and
you
know
just
want
to
continue
that
conversation
so
appreciate
your
time.
H
Thank
you,
madam
president,
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
answering
our
questions
on
this.
I
want
to
pick
up
on
what
councilman
Wilson
was
asking
and
ask
it
a
little
bit
more
pointedly.
We
have
about
20
projects
from
the
time
that
the
September
budget
came
out
and
to
the
time
that
November
project
came
out.
That
budget
came
out.
H
There
were
additional
capital
projects
added
to
this
list,
and
I
could
pick
out
any
anyone
and
ask
the
question:
if
we're,
if
any
of
them
come
close
to
say
a
million
dollars,
I
mean
maybe
barring
the
some
of
the
ones
that
are
very
specific,
like
the
the
Shenley
Park
Ice
Rink,
why
not
take
that
money
and
expand
the
project
to
either
take
it
and
move
it
to
a
project
in
a
park
that
is
viewed
through
the
equity
lens,
the
next
on
our
priority
list
and
leverage
it
for
additional
funding
from
outside
sources?
H
If
it
was
in
partnership
with
our
Pacific
parks
and
servancy
to
me,
it
feels
like
we're
leaving
money
on
the
table.
We
have.
We
know
that
there
are
philanthropic
organizations
that
are
clamoring
to
help
and
to
help
to
match
anything
that
is
leveraged
by
the
by
the
parks
tax
fund.
H
Even
a
million
dollars
towards
that
could
potentially
be
leveraged.
You
know
trip
threefold
and
we
could
see
19
other
projects
come
to
fruition,
some
investment
in
our
vehicles,
which
I'd
like
to
get
to
in
a
minute
and
also
a
brand
new
reimagined
park.
We
could
have
everything
and,
to
you
know,
walk
into
gum
at
the
same
time,
essentially
understanding
that
everything
you
said
that
to
be
able
to
position
ourselves
for
future
years
of
true
new
park
investment.
We
need
to
be
able
to
catch
up
on
deferred
maintenance.
H
D
H
Investment
from
us
could
leverage
two
or
three
full
from
the
philanthropic
organization
organizations
who
wish
to
do
so
again.
It
feels
like
we're
leaving
money
on
the
table
and
that's
what
I'm
concerned
that
that
could
disappear
if
we
don't
take
advantage
of
it
at
this
moment,.
K
So
consistent
with
the
cooperation
agreement
that
was
established,
I
believe
last
year
between
the
city
and
the
parks
Conservancy,
the
parks
Conservancy
submitted
capital
budget
requests
for
projects
that
they
Envision
conducting
in
Partnership
between
the
city
and
and
their
entity
with
Parks
tax
funds.
Those
projects
went
into
the
same
grading
and
evaluation
pool
under
chapter
218
of
city
code
for
capital,
budget
project
evaluation
and
they
scored
less
highly
than
those
Investments.
You
see
in
the
proposed
budget,
so
I
guess.
K
I
think
that
partially
answers
your
question
in
terms
of
the
fungibility
right
that
that
the
projects
that
that
the
city
proper
proposed
to
undertake
as
capital
investments
in
park
spaces
were
those
that
that
ranked
most
highly
in
in
that
process
and
so
consistent
with
that
those
are
the
ones
that
the
administration
Advanced
for
funding
to
the
to
to
the
broader
question
of
of
Leverage.
G
K
Know
in
a
world
in
which
not
not
even
unlimited
resources
but
but
more
generally
available
resources.
More
could
happen
more
quickly,
but
but
having
to
prioritize
as
we
do
around
those
Investments
to
make.
First,
we
selected
those
proposals
that
that
had
the
greatest
impact
on
the
Equitable
access
to
parks
that
were
presented
and
they're
reflected
in
what's
proposed
in
the
budget.
H
And
I
say
this
because
I
feel
our
responsibility
to
represent
my
constituents,
who
have
been
asking
me
about
this
and
have
you
know,
seen
news,
media
articles
and
others
that
have
indicated
that
exactly
what
we
have
in
front
of
us,
that
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
of
the
public
funds
going
toward
vehicles
or
questions
about
that.
You
know
maintenance
and
upgrade
I.
H
Don't
think
people
can
have
too
many
complaints
about
maintenance
of
our
Parks
but
to
to
feel
as
if
they
were
voted
on
a
Parks
tax
and
to
feel
as
if
that
it's
not
being
allocated
in
the
way
that
they
thought
it
would
be.
Has
you
know
been
raised
to
me
at
from
constituents?
H
D
H
Of
thinking
that
councilman,
Wilson
and
I
are
indicating
so
I
do
feel
a
responsibility
to
raise
it.
I
still
maintain
that
there
is
a
way
I
understand
and
I.
Do
appreciate
very
much
appreciate
the
data-driven
approach
through
the
kind
of
budget
process
and
point
system,
and
you
know
I
appreciate
that
that
was
the
method
that
was
really
prioritized
this
year
in
our
Capital
budgets
and
and
applied
to
this
as
well.
H
That
said,
we're
in
the
we're
in
the
next
phase
of
the
budget
negotiations
right
now,
which
it
can
be
a
little
bit
more
malleable,
a
little
bit
more
flexible,
which
is
why
I
continue
to
ask
for
or
a
press
on
the
issue
that
any
one
of
these
projects
could
be
deferred
to
next
year,
even
though
you
know,
through
the
through
the
numerical
data-driven
process,
it
was
decided
upon
for
this
year
could
be
deferred
to
next
year
combined
and
a
portion
of
that
applied
to
the
next,
regardless
of
the
four
that
were
proposed
by
the
parks.
H
Conservancy
could
be
applied
to
the
next
Park
on
our
list.
That
we
know
needs
to
be
upgraded,
matched
and
fully
funded.
For
for
this
in
future
years,
so
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
my
to
the
questions
about
each
vehicle,
are
we
able
to
go
through?
What's
one
two,
three,
four
five,
each
of
the
six
vehicles
or
bullet
points
listed
here
to
understand
what
they
are
and
what
they
will
do.
D
C
Yes,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
previous
budget,
the
we
are
piloting
a
Parks
maintenance
inspector.
The
inspector
car
is
for
that
position.
C
Is
to
collect
waste
and
litter
those
two
trucks
are
assigned
to
the
largest
of
our
divisions,
where
we
know
we
have
the
most
refuse
to
collect
in
the
park
to
themselves.
C
Skid
steers
are
a
specialty
piece
of
equipment
that
we
use
in
select
areas
they
help
us
with
you
know.
Clearing
of
difficult
to
reach
places
also
come
with
a
variety
of
attachments
that
allow
us
to
till
the
land.
You
know
provide
planting
areas
that
type
of
thing.
H
K
Yes,
if
I
could
just
add
to
that
council
person
for
reasons
director
hornstein
just
mentioned,
many
of
them
are
not
applicable
to
any
other
type
of
work
that
we
do.
Obviously,
agricultural
tractors
and
first
for
agricultural
tractors
and
Skid
Steers,
for
example,
that's
fairly
self-evident,
but
we
don't
presently
propose
to
utilize
any
of
our
hybrid
pickup
trucks
in
snow
operations,
for
example,
because
of
the
difficulty
in
charging
and
maintaining
them
during
snow
operations.
K
So
all
of
the
Cities
electric
truck
Fleet,
whether
proposed
here
or
paid
for
elsewhere,
would
not
be
eligible
for
snow
plowing
or
anything
else.
So
we
were
intentional
in
selecting
vehicle
types
that
not
only
would
be
dedicated
to
Parks
but
in
fact,
could
only
be
dedicated
to
parks
in
what
we
proposed
as
Parks
tax
vehicle
Acquisitions.
K
There
are
vehicles
of
multi-purpose,
nature
right
vehicles
that
are
primarily
assigned
to
parks,
but
where,
in
a
major
snow
event,
you
know
it's
an
all
hands
on
deck
moment,
then
we
tap
Parks
maintenance
staff
to
help
with
with
types
of
snow
operations
out
and
they're
always
tapped
to
participate
in
some
operations
within
the
parks.
Opening
the
walkways-
and
you
know,
roads
within
the
parks,
but
they
often
will
clear
other
types
of
sidewalks
and
secondary
responsibilities.
But
but
the
vehicles
proposed
here
are
dedicated
to
Parks
uses.
H
The
last
thing
I
want
to
focus
on
is
the
commitment
to,
and
this
might
be
semantics,
but
the
commitment
to
supplement
a
not
supplant
and
when
I
look
at
the
position
summaries.
Not
all
of
these
positions
are
new.
There
is
a
position
that
has
been
moved
over
which,
from
the
bureau
facilities
the
senior
project
landscape
architect,
which
indicates
to
me
that
this
is
not
supplementing
that
this
could
Exist
Elsewhere
and
is
really
supplanting
what
could
exist
in
a
different
Bureau.
C
Do
you
open?
Do
you
want
me
to
handle
that
you
can
start.
K
C
C
We
used
that
to
make
sure
that
I'm
aligned
to
the
correct
year,
and
so
the
position
itself
was
used
to
in
that
budget
transfer
was
used
to
fund
a
position
of
Foreman
in
the
Construction
Division,
which
you
know
approximately
about
a
third
of
that
person's
time
in
the
operating
budget
is
spent
working
in
city
parks
through
a
variety
of
construction
projects,
as
well
as
a
cost
estimator
position.
That
is,
for
the
benefit
of.
K
For
that
question,
sir
I
just
double
checking
some
notes.
If
I
could
put
a
finer
point
on
on
what
director
hornstein
just
said,
it's
our
assertion
that
taking
a
position
that
had
previously
had
split
responsibilities
between
parks
and
other
work
and
dedicating
it
fully
to
parks
and
then
utilizing
freed
up
operating
funds
to
create
within
the
general
fund
budget.
Additional
positions
or
partial
partial
funding
of
positions
that
are
fully
dedicated
to
operating
from
Works
operating
fund
projects
creates
a
clearer,
accounting
or
delineation
between
Park
specific
work
and
shared
work.
K
What
had
previously
been
shared
work
and
so
similar
to
ways
in
which
I
I
know
it's
not
the
hearing
today,
but
I'll
just
use
it
as
an
example.
You
know:
we've
driven
through
this
budget
to
delineate
between,
subject
matter,
expertise
or
project
typology
within
Domi
to
create
data,
educated
units
around
Bridges
and
structures
versus
walls
and
slopes
versus
sidewalks
and
things
of
that
nature.
K
This
this
is
intended
as
an
investment
that
will
create
a
clear
total
focus
on
parks
for
for
a
position
that
had
previously
been
split
and
then
create
new
positions
necessary
to
achieve
other
non-park
related
work.
So
I
take
your
your
point
seriously
and
I
I
understand
your
the
reason
for
your
question
and
I
I
I'll
I'll
agree
that
it's
somewhat
subject
to
interpretation,
but
that's
the
thinking
that
went
into
this.
This
choice
on
our
part.
J
M
Thank
you,
madam
president,
so
I'm
going
to
change
tack
a
little
bit
here.
We
seem
to
be
talking
both
about
the
parks
trust
fund
uses,
but
we're
never
leaving
the
parks
Conservancy
her
in
the
audience
today.
Hello,
everybody
out
of
this
conversation,
so
just
sort
of
some
clarity.
The
home
Rule
Charter,
says
that
the
the
that
the
voters
voted
on
says
that
the
city
May
partner
with
a
Conservancy.
M
So
I
just
want
the
listeners
to
at
home
to
understand,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
kind
of
I
felt
murkiness
about
what
we
all
were
asked
to
vote
on,
that
general
election
day
in
2019,
and
so
there
was
never
a
vote
for
this
specific
Pittsburgh,
Parks,
conservancy
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
and
then
I
don't
want
anyone
to
think
that
this
Administration
or
this
city
council
does
not
work
with
the
Pittsburgh
Parks
Conservancy
I've
had
many
meetings
with
the
Pittsburgh
parks
and
servancy
over
the
last
two
months,
I've
gone
on
walkthroughs
of
multiple
Parks
come
James.
M
Would
you
bring
that
over
please,
and
so
as
a
reminder,
because
this
has
been
a
very
long
almost
three
years
now,
it's
been
three
years
since
we
voted
on
it.
It's
been
like
the
full
three
years
since
we
had
all
the
discussions.
I
appreciate
it.
We
were
having
this
discussion
back
at
late,
28,
19
and
early
2020,
but
then
covet
happened
and
we
all
got
went
into
quarantine
for
a
year
and
a
half.
So
this
is
a
very,
very
big
binder.
K
I
I
believe
the
agreement
you're
referring
to
councilwoman
was
signed
in
late
2021,
but
it's
about
five
pages,
so
it
wouldn't
add
much
to
the.
M
The
thickness
of
that
binder,
it's
not
a
lot
of
content
right
so
I
mean
this
says
things
like
you
know.
The
purse
Conservancy
can
you
know
is
the
is:
has
a
Master
Lease
on
Shenley
Plaza,
for
example,
right
so
the
Parsons
Pittsburgh
Parks
Conservancy?
Currently,
it's
not
like
anybody's
written
them
out
of
any
of
these
agreements.
M
An
active
participant
that
Frick
Park
Environmental
Center
is
another
classic
example
right.
We
just
saw
in
one
of
the
previous
trust
funds
that
there's
a
there's,
a
specific
trust
fund
that
generates
I,
understand
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
revenue
for
Frick
Park
and
that
that
check
is
cut
to
the
Park's
Conservancy
each
year.
M
So
I
might
not
have
that
exactly
right,
but
it
has
a
time
spent
I
think
an
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
check,
so
they
are
currently
receiving
City
funds
now
and
I've
said
it
before
and
I
haven't
said
it
for
three
years,
but
that
and
Peter.
If
you've
got
that
information
be
helpful,
it
may
be
lower.
M
So
right
and
so
because
we've
again
given
them
a
contract,
so
they're
the
vent
they're
like
the
operating
vendor
for
that
Center,
that
you
know
we're
paying
money
to
the
Conservancy,
the
parts
of
Pittsburgh
Parks
Conservancy
specifically
well,
it's
you
know
in
its
first
year
of
these
very
many
agreements.
Some
20
years
ago,
the
parts
Conservancy
raised
money
and
wrote
a
check
to
the
city,
for
my
recollection,
is
about
270,
000
and
so,
and
that
that
was
the
mission
that
it
started
with.
So
it's
a
very
different
relationship.
M
That
I
think
we
should
be
very
mindful
of
and
that
I'm
not
supportive
of
and
I'm
supportive
of
keeping
our
operations
in
our
own
employees
in
our
own
organizational
chart
that
ensures
that
they
are
the
residents
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
that
our
dollars
are
going
to
Residents
and
that
this
is,
you
know,
you
know
the
reason
we're
here:
I,
think,
right
and
so
and
not
to
to
privatize
operations.
M
I
just
didn't
want
anyone
to
have
any
misrehension
that
what
they've
heard
on
the
news
in
a
news
story
means
that
we've
stopped
working
with
the
Pittsburgh
parks
and
services,
because
this
is
a
very.
This
is
a
very
heavy
book
and
so
I'm
going
to
go
set
it
up
right
here
for
a
second
I
also
have
in
front
of
me
again.
M
The
three
years
ago
before
the
voters
voted
on
the
referendum
material
straight
from
the
parks
Conservancy
website
and
what
was
being
encouraged
at
the
time
by
the
Pittsburgh
Parks
Conservancy
was
a
vote
for
the
referendum
that
had
a
kind
of
you
can't
see
it
on
my
little
tiny
screen,
but
there's
a
kind
of
there's
four
bubbles,
and
it
says
that
over
the
next
over
new
funds
over
six
years,
18
would
go
to
capital
projects.
M
18
would
go
to
capital
projects.
It
also
says:
twenty
percent
of
the
new
funds
over
six
years
were
encouraged.
Now
this
is
can't
get
guarantee
because
it's
a
non-profit,
encouraging
a
referendum
vote
would
be
suggested
that
they
themselves
suggested
that
20
of
it
would
go
again
to
like
kind
of
rehabilitate.
So,
let's
just
call
those
all
capital
projects,
that's
38!
M
What
I'm,
seeing
in
front
of
me
in
the
mayor's
proposed
November
expenditures
for
the
Pittsburgh
Parks
trust
fund
is
66
going
to
capital
projects,
and
so
we're
double,
not
quite
double,
but
nearly
double
the
the
amount
that
we
were
all
imagining
when
we,
you
know,
voted
or
not
didn't
vote
for
it
in
2019,
so
I
I,
don't
see
any
inconsistency
here.
M
I
actually
think
there's
more
commitment
to
capital
projects
than
again
it's
been
three
years,
so
you
know,
we've
gotten
a
little
fuzzy,
so
I
went
back
and
looked
back
through
well
what
what?
What
were
the
notes?
What
were
the
conversations?
What
were
the
things
on
the
websites
from
three
years
ago,
and
so,
while
people
might
complain
about
it
now
or
want
it
to
be
different,
I,
don't
think
there's
any
dis,
nothing
disingenuous
going
on
right!
This
is
this
is
completely
consistent
with
what
was
talked
about.
M
D
K
First,
to
to
your
last
Point
regarding
accounting,
I
I
would
agree
both
in
terms
of
your
characterization
of
the
proposed
budget
and
I
think
we're
looking
at
the
same
materials
from
2019.
So
so
your
your
calculation
there
as
well.
K
You
know,
we
I,
think
we
heard
loud
and
clear
that
the
the
plurality
request
from
City
residents
was
for
investments
in
maintenance
and
have
so
prioritized
them,
but
at
the
same
time,
you're
also
correct,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
You
know
of
funds
for
operating
activities
which
roughly
correspond
to
maintenance,
we're
proposing
about
34
percent
of
revenues.
K
I
I
believe
that
our
proposed
allocations
are
reflective
of
both
the
openness
and
willingness
to
partner,
where
appropriate,
while
also
taking
seriously
the
public
responsibility
to
take
care
of
what
the
public
owns.
Without
without
inviting
private
actors
into
that
space.
Unduly
and.
M
So
I'm
going
to
go
in
a
little
bit
of
a
tangent
about
the
privatization
of
operations.
Again,
I
was
talking
about
it
a
lot
three
years
ago,
and
so
you
know
we're
just
getting
back
to
it
now
that
in
other
cities
there
have
been
allegations
of
racial
discrimination
by
private
operators
right
and
so,
where
a
city
leased
out
operations
for
its
parks.
M
There
have
been
allegations
and
protests
around
people
getting
differential
treatment.
We
don't
want
that
here,
right,
I'm,
not
pointing
any
fingers
I'm.
Just
saying
that
when
we
look
around
at
the
things
that
can
happen,
we
need
to
be
vigilant
right
that
we
are
allowing
our
parks
to
be
for
all
residents
and
it's
very
important
to
everybody
in
the
city
and
it's
important
to
us
here.
There
have
also
been
mishandling
of
funds
and
payments
so
that
there
were
lawsuits
and
actual
liens
placed
by
unpaid
vendors
on
Pits
on
not
Pittsburgh's,
but
other
cities,
Parks
properties.
M
Imagine
having
our
public
property
having
business
liens
against
it.
That
kind
of
thing.
So
we
want
to
be
very
Vigilant
that
we
don't
that
we
track
this
money
and
even
these
53
agreements,
this
Council
voted
to
make
sure
that
the
city
controller
audited
these
agreements
and
I
point
to
it,
especially
because
we
didn't
have
those
in
hand
when
we
all
vote
had
that
referendum
on
the
ballot
in
November.
This
Council
almost
introduced
a
resolution
that
Council
should
have
all
of
the
Cooperative
agreements
on
record
for
the
parks
Conservancy.
M
M
So
I
just
want
to
remind
you
all
that
there
should
not
be
kind
of
little
agreements
at
parks
and
rec
or
at
DPW
that
are
just
in
a
drawer
and
not
at
Council
and
not
on
the
controller's
website
moving
forward,
because
that's
what
had
been
happening
right
and
so
the
public
didn't
have
the
the
agreements
and
city
council
didn't
have
the
agreements
in
our
registrar
system.
We
had
we
had
those
read
into
the
record,
I
believe
so
that
they
should
all
be
publicly
available.
M
So
if
you
want
to
go
there
now
and
look
back
in
December
of
2019,
you
should
be
able
to
pull
up
all
of
those
agreements
and
you
should
be
able
to
see
them
on
the
city
controller's
website
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
doing
that
for
all
of
our
Cooperative
agreements
with
various
nonprofits
moving
forward
and
so
and
so
there's
that
my
last
thing
that
again
is
picking
up
on
conversations
that
we
had
at
post
agendas
and
that
we
had
a
public
hearings
at
this
table
back
in
2019
early
2020.
M
Is
that
I
don't
agree
with
that
Equity
plan
and
I
I
said
it
once
so.
I'll
say
it
again
on
the
record
I,
when
we
had
a
post
agenda,
we
had
the
Park's
Conservancy
at
this
table.
I
held
up
the
femisphere
plan,
which
is
a
a
map
of
where
the
poorest
households
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
are
and
that
70
of
them
are
female-headed
households
with
children
and
it
you
know
we
were
talking
a
lot
at
the
time
about
how
people
should
be
within
a
10-minute
walk
of
parks
and
I
said.
Why
aren't?
M
M
Why
are
you
missing
all
of
these
neighborhoods
and
the
Philadelphia
Consultants
finally
got
back
to
me
and
said
like
well,
maybe
maybe
we
kind
of
misrepresented
our
plan
and
not
everyone
really
is
within
a
10-minute
walk
of
a
park
and
basically
we
deleted
a
whole
bunch
of
census,
tracts
in
doing
that
Equity
plan
and
so
I'm
very
concerned
about
that
and
I
think
we
need
to
revisit
and
do
our
own
Equity
plan,
because
I
I
think
that
that
Equity
plan
from
the
Philadelphia
Consultants
that
were
was
not
ours.
We
never
adopted
it.
K
I'll
say
something
to
that
quickly
and
then
I
would
invite
director
hornstein
to
speak
to
it
further
if,
if
I
missed
something
when
I,
when
I
highlighted
overlap
between
the
Investments
we've
made
in
the
past
few
years
and
the
prioritization
in
that
plan,
my
point
was
to
emphasize
the
ways
in
which
you
know
our
investments
have
been
consistent
with
what
was
articulated
to
the
voters
at
the
time
in
advance
of
adoption
of
the
tax
simply
to
say
that
I
I,
agree
generally,
with
with
a
number
of
points
you've
made
councilwoman,
which
is
that
the
Investments
we've
made
or
proposed
to
make
are
not
inconsistent.
K
I
also
agree
with
you
that
that
plan
is
not
formally
adopted
and
it
is
not
the
the
Soul
or
maybe
even
primary
driving
factor
in
our
assessment.
It's
a
one
of
I
wouldn't
call
it
a
benefit,
but
one
of
the
consequences
of
such
a
long
history
of
deferred
maintenance
is.
We
have
no
shortage
of
places
in
which
we
can
acknowledge.
K
Investment
is
necessary
and,
and
can
Target
that
in
an
equity
focused
way,
but
you
know
we're
again
very
open
to
not
just
ways
in
which
the
work
done
to
date
could
be
improved
and
what
we
might
be
missing,
but
but
regardless
committed
to
a
focus
on
utilizing
these
funds
in
a
way
that
acknowledge
that,
with
existing
resources
supporting
our
regional
parks,
which
are
cornerstones
of
our
system,
we
now
have
an
opportunity,
a
growing
and
very
exciting
opportunity
to
invest
beyond
that.
So
absolutely.
M
M
We're
really
grateful,
of
course,
to
the
federal
relief
package,
but
we're
spending
money,
I
think
at
a
pay,
go
I
think
there
are
additional
Grant
funds
right.
There
are
other
places
that
we
do
get
grants
right.
We've
got
dcnr
funds,
we've
got
Kaboom
playground
funds,
there's
the
kind
of
gaming
funds
at
the
county.
I
can
remember
what
those
are
called
when.
M
M
K
Should
I
should
make
clear
about
that
when
I
listed
projects
that
in
which
we're
investing
those
were
not
projects
that
were
solely
utilizing
Parks
tax
funds
for
those
investments,
in
fact,
they're
utilizing
a
combination
of
parks,
tax,
Bond,
paygo,
Grant
and
other
funds,
their
projects
that
happen
to
be
on
the
the
list,
as
it
was
articulated
at
the
time
that
the
vote
passed
that
have
been
supported
since
then
to
make
that
connection,
but
they're
not
respect
they're,
not
reflective,
only
of
parks,
tax,
Investments,
but
overall
City
Investments
on
the
question
of
Equitable
access
again
director.
C
Yeah,
absolutely
you
know,
I
think
you
raise
some
very
wonderful
points.
I
also
want
to
you
know.
Director
Vargas
is
here
as
well
and
I
know
she's
going
to
have
very
distinct.
C
Thoughts
on
this
I
also
want
to
invite
her
to
respond
as
well,
because
she
and
I
partner
on
on
some
of
those
Equitable
improvements
and
accessible
improvements.
I
think
he
raised
a
very
interesting
point.
C
You
know
vis-a-vis
the
you
know
aforementioned
location
of
women
and
single
single
parent
homes,
and
you
know,
access
to
a
park
and
that
those
two
maps
not
I
see
that
process
kind
of,
from
my
perspective,
being
wholly
distinct
and
separate
from
the
process
that
was
entailed
underneath
the
Equitable
investment
strategy,
as
as
supported
by
the
Philadelphia
consultant.
C
Mostly
that
the
you
know,
the
the
question
was,
you
know,
parks
that
exist
currently
that
we
have
a
responsibility
for
I.
Think
that
your
question
is
also
apt
and
needs
to
be
fully
explored
and
I
certainly
would
be
highly
supportive
of
that.
I
think
that
there's
no
shortage
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
to
provide
our
Parks
to
be
more
Equitable
and
accessible.
The
ones
that
do
exist
currently,
as
well
as
expanding
the
portfolio
to
those
who
also
have
a
demonstrated,
need
and
don't
have
that
same
safe
access
right.
M
And
just
to
put
a
further
point
on
it,
I
mean
it's
widely
known
that
neighborhoods
farther
from
Parks
usually
have
lower
value
and
cheaper
rent,
and
that's
where
our
kind
of
poorest
households
can
afford
to
live
right
and
so
and
that's
the
opposite
of
what
we
should
be
striving
for
should
be
striving
for
having
the
parks
for
the
households,
especially
that
are
lower
resourced
and
in
more
need
and
so
I,
don't
think
we're
there.
I,
don't
think
we're
there
with
that.
M
The
plan
that
was
put
forward
by
the
parks
conservancy,
and
so
we
should
look
a
little
more
closely
a
lot
more
closely
at
kind
of.
Where
are
people
who
need
Parks?
How
far
are
they
from
Parks
and
what
we
can
do
about
it,
and
that's
a
completely
different
question,
I
think
than
what's
in
front
of
us
now.
K
F
M
F
M
M
K
And
we'll
not
the
subject
of
this
hearing
directly
I,
just
don't
you
know,
we
begin
enjoyed
a
strong
partnership
with
rad
around
other
types
of
non-city.
Well,
City
taxpayers
certainly
pay
them
through
the
sales
tax,
but
the
ways
in
which
we've
been
able
to
deploy
and
invest.
Rad
funds
in
our
regional
parks
has
seen
increasing
return
as
we've
reinvested
in
our
core
capabilities,
and
we
we
look
forward
to
that.
Continued
partnership
as
well.
J
You
thank
you
so
much
councilwoman
and
I
just
have
a
few
things
that
I
mean
I,
hear
all
these
conversations
and
all
the
comments
around
the
table.
For
me,
look
I
mean
I,
don't
want
the
park
tax
and
I
really
didn't
like
Pittsburgh,
Parks,
conservancy
and
I.
Really
don't
like
any
organization.
A
lot
of
organizations
I
like
a
lot
I
like
some,
but
so
I'm
gonna
just
say
that
right
now,
but
I
also
think
that
there's
a
need,
there's
a
real
need
for
them.
J
I
think
they
are
good
at
leveraging
private
dollars
that
we
are
not
and
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
honestly
I.
Think
part
of
the
problems
is
I'm
hearing
comments.
Is
we
didn't
manage
that
relationship
very
well?
We
shouldn't
have
that
many
agreements
with
them.
We
shouldn't
have
them
setting
the
priority
for
the
City
of
Pittsburgh.
J
We
should
be
setting
that
with
our
residents
and
I
I
think
that
if
we
redefine
that
relationship,
I
think
it
could
be
beneficial
to
everyone,
but
I
think
it
has
to
be
us
who
manages
it
a
better,
a
partnership
better
but
and
since
then,
since
the
park
tax,
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
people
that
went
to
work
for
Pittsburgh,
Parks,
Conservancy,
so
I'm,
starting
to
like
them
a
little
bit
again
so
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
truly
the
reason
I
say
that
all
that
is
because
I'm
not
we
have
to
do
this
and
we
have
to
have
it
the
same
way.
J
K
Well,
I
I
just
wanted
to
agree
and
that
you
know
I
meet
monthly
with
Catherine
kreshi,
the
executive
director
of
The
Parks
conservancy
and
Ross
Chapman,
their
Chief
Operating
Officer,
both
of
whom
our
city
of
Pittsburgh,
alums,
I,
think
they're.
In.
K
Point
is
that
there
are
many
great
folks
who
work
there,
who.
G
K
And
as
councilwoman
gross
mentioned,
we
have
a
long-standing
relationship
with
the
Conservancy,
as
documented
in
a
large
number
of
contractual
relationships
that
continue
to
this
day
and
and
continue
to
be
I
think
beneficial
to
us.
So
so
I
agree
with
you
entirely
that
this
is
not
a
question
of
intention.
K
It's
a
question
of
prioritization
and
our
view,
which
I
think
is
consistent
with
the
expressed
intent
of
the
voters
at
the
time
the
tax
was
passed,
but
also
consistent
with
the
prior
intention
expressed
by
this
Council
and
and
even
the
prior
Administration,
that
the
question
is
not
whether
partnership
is
valuable.
I
think
that's
that's
Undisputed!
K
The
question
is
what
is,
in
the
the
immediate
term,
the
highest
and
best
use
of
public
tax
dollars,
as
collected
through
the
parks
tax
and
in
an
environment
in
which
public
investment
in
our
Parks
system
has
been
so
lacking
for
so
long
it
seemed
it
seems
and
remains
clear
to
us
that
the
most
rewarding
investment
we
can
make
is
in
rebuilding
our
capability
as
the
public
as
the
city
to
do
our
own
work
ourselves,
and
that
does
not
preclude
opportunities
for
for
future
partnership.
K
K
You
know
at
the
same
time
we'll
continue
to
work
in
those
ways
that
present
themselves
on
on
Partnerships
that
we
can't
fully
and
undertake
on
our
own,
and
nothing
in
in
this
proposal
closes
the
door
to
that
in
the
same
way
that
those
Partnerships
weren't
impossible
and,
in
fact,
flourished
prior
to
having
a
Parks
tax.
So
it's
not
a
question
about
whether
we
can
partner
or
whether
we're
willing
to
partner
it's
it's
a
question
about
how
public
dollars,
as
collected
by
the
public
from
taxpayers,
can
be
best
spent
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
J
So
I
think
it
would
also
be
good
I
think
that,
because
they
have
built
up
that
organization,
so
much
it'd
be
nice
to
see
them
partnered
with
some
of
the
smaller
organizations,
some
green
oriented
types
of
organizations
and
see
them
working
a
little
bit
and
mentoring
them
a
little.
J
You
know
some
of
some
of
that
to
some
extent
but
I,
but
I
do
want
to
say:
I
have
to
clarify
some
a
few
things
this,
according
to
this
list
of
the
capital
budget,
I
just
want
to
make
sure-
and
you
mentioned
Sheridan
Park,
but
it's
not
listed
on
here,
but
it
that
is
director.
K
So
Madam
president,
if
I
could
just
say
just
to
reiterate
again,
the
list
of
parks
that
I
gave
was
not
solely
Parks
tax-funded
projects,
but
rather
projects
that
are
prioritized
in
the
2018-2019
equity
plan
and
of
them
I
see
Townsend
Park
of
the
I'm.
Sorry
I
should
clarify
of
the
ones
in
which
we've
already
have
completed.
Work
are
in
the
process
of
doing
work
in
your
District
I,
see
Townsend
Park
Sheridan
Park.
K
Those
are
the
two
on
my
list.
Information.
J
J
K
On
in
a
story,
that's
700
000
out
of
a
2.5
million
dollar
over
all
Investments,
so
700
000
in
Parks
tax
funds
combined
with
1.8
million
dollar
in
other
funds.
So
not
an
example
in
your
District,
just
the
one
that
popped.
J
H
K
J
Projects
right
so
because
so
we're
putting
a
lot
of
we're
still
putting
in
the
money
that
we
had
initially
said,
we
would
do
and
that's
what
people
were
asking
were
we
just
going
to
use
the
10
million?
No,
we
we're
still
doing.
We
still
dedicated
a
lot
of
funds
towards
our
Parks,
so
it
makes
them
a
priority
for
us.
I
think
we
all
realized
how
important
the
parks
were,
especially
during
covid.
G
J
That's
all
kids
and
families
could
do
was
go
to
the
parks,
so
I
think
that
we
have
a
real
commitment
there,
but
I
do
want
to
see
us
work
out
some
arrangements,
some
agreements
where
we
can
feel
like
this.
The
residents
have
a
say
in
that
the
city
has
control
and
I
think
at
the
same
time.
J
You
know
we
want
to
see
how
much
we
value
what
Pittsburgh,
Parks
Conservancy
has
done
in
many
areas.
That
doesn't
mean
I
agree
with
everything,
because
there's
a
lot
I,
don't
but
I
do
think.
Now
we
have
a
great
team
there
that
we
can
really
work
with
them.
There
are
people
that
know
our
area.
There
are
people
that
know
the
city
and
they
know
how
crazy
Council
can
get
when
they
make
us
angry.
So
so
I
think
that
we
have
good
partners
there
to
work
with
so
I
I'm.