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From YouTube: Pittsburgh City Council Post-Agenda - 6/13/23
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Discussion on Bill 376 Tri-Party Cooperation Agreement
A
A
Good
afternoon
and
hello,
my
name
is
Deborah
gross
I
am
the
council
member
for
district
seven
and
I'm.
What
we
have
feedback?
Is
it
ready?
It's?
Okay,
now
I'm
here
to
welcome
you
to
Pittsburg
City
council's
cable
cast
post
agenda
for
Tuesday
June
13th
2023
relative
to
Bill
2022-0376
tri-party
agreement.
Will
the
clerk
please
read
the
title
of
the
bills.
B
Bill
376
resolution
amending
resolution,
661
of
2017
entitled
resolution
and
mending
resolution
number
432
of
2017
entitled
resolution
authorizing
cooperation,
agreement
or
agreements
with
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
The
urban
Redevelopment
authority
of
Pittsburgh
in
the
Pittsburgh
land
bank
to
provide
the
future
shared
administrative
service
for
the
transfer
of
property
among
agencies
for
governmental,
Redevelopment
and
portfolio
management
purposes,
all
districts
by
providing
for
city
council,
review
of
policies
and
procedures
of
the
Pittsburgh
land
bank.
Pursuant
to
section
174
a
point:
13
D
of
the
Pittsburgh
code
of
ordinances
to
authorize
an
amendment
to
the
cooperation
agreement.
A
Thank
you
and
for
the
record
today
we
are
joined
by
council
members,
Lavelle
Cog
Hill
strasberger
Warwick.
Do
we
have
any
council
members
online?
Please
just
anybody
online.
No,
no
council,
members
online,
but
we
may
be
joined
by
other
members
periodically
and
we
also
have
joining
us
at
the
table.
We
have
members
of
the
administration
and
the
Aurora
board.
A
We
have
City
Finance
director,
Jennifer,
Gula
I
forgot
actually
Kyle
your
title
Kyle
tintelopoly
and
it
works
in
the
Office
of
Management
and
budget
officially
and
cheers
the
board
of
the
urban
Redevelopment
Authority
city
solicitor,
Krishna,
Kubiak
and
also
blanking
on
the
name
of
the
real
estate
attorney
at
our
table.
Please
Jack
Miller!
Thank
you
also
from
the
city,
solicitors,
office
and
so
I
I
want
to
we'll
be
giving
each
of
the
speakers
about
five
to
ten
minutes.
I
think
there.
A
Think
that
a
really
good
synopsis
was
that
we
have
basically
like
different
size
tools
for
different
kinds
of
these
projects
and
on
the
city
Side.
We
have
the
power
to
take
sales,
these
properties
to
auction,
and
while
it
might
be
easy
for
an
individual
to
try
to
buy
a
property
at
an
auction,
only
the
highest
bidder
gets
the
property
and
it's
the
tool
that
the
city
has
is
to
take
properties
to
auction.
On
the
opposite.
A
But
city
council
can
direct
the
purposes
right
for
urban
AG
or
for
Greenway
or
for
affordable
housing
that
we
can
really
kind
of
direct
Mission
areas,
public
policy
areas
that
we
want
properties
to
go
for
and
that
you
can.
The
land
bank
can
clear
title
to
those
and
direct
those
disposition,
processes
that
aren't
so
burdensome
it's
not
as
bad
as
trying
to
get
to
the
Ura
process.
So
you
can
do
it
as
a
small
operator,
and
so
we
have
different
size
plates.
A
But,
unlike
Goldilocks
we're
not
trying
to
put
all
of
you
know
it's
not
only
about
the
middle
size
plate.
We
want
to
figure
out
which
of
the
kinds
of
properties
that
we
have
are
appropriate
for
which
of
these
tools,
and
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
our
speakers.
So
we
can
give
us
kind
of
more
in-depth
understanding
of
what
they
do
and
what
they
can
do
so
that
we
can
all
jointly
understand
all
of
the
powers
that
we
have
for
recycling
these
properties
for
the
common
good.
C
Sure
I'm
Jen
Gula
I'm,
the
current
Finance
director
and
the
city
treasurer
for
the
city
and
the
school
district.
Actually,
so
my
department
is
charged
with
overseeing
the
city's
inventory
of
properties
and
how
he
actually
came
to
acquire
these
properties
is
through
Treasure
sale.
So
anytime
a
property
is
tax
delinquent.
The
city
can
put
it
into
treasure,
sale,
which
is
public
auction,
and
it
allows
Joe
public
to
come
and
bid
on
the
property
or
if
it's
no
one
takes
it
at
the
treasure
sale.
C
The
city
can
bring
it
into
its
inventory
and
then
later
sell
it
to
another
buyer
who's
interested.
They
always
have
to
go
to
the
highest
bidder,
because
the
objective
is
for
us
to
recoup
any
lost
taxes
or
demolition,
liens
or
clean
and
green
or
clean
and
liens,
or
any
of
those
other
kind
of
Municipal
charges
that
the
prop
that
were
attached
to
the
property
and
also
for
the
length
that
we
have
in
an
inventory
potentially
reimburse
us
for
any
treasure.
Sale
costs
or
maintenance
costs,
land
care
costs
and
things
of
that
nature.
C
So
that's
our
objective.
We
also
hold
the
property
Reserve,
which
is
meant
for
Community
Development
groups
to
collect
properties
that
and
have
the
a
buyer
that's
in
line
with
what
their
Community
plans
you
know,
align
with
their
Community
plans
and
of
that
nature,
and
then
we
also
transfer
properties
to
the
era
for
a
large-scale
development
projects.
Large-Scale
development
projects
aren't
really
in
our
wheelhouse,
and
so
that's
what
the
Ora
is
meant
for.
C
So
in
the
past,
we've
had
issues
where
we
have
collected
so
many
properties
through
the
treasure
sale
process
that
it's
been
a
difficult
process,
maintaining
them
it's
been
very
costly
and
sometimes
the
the
sales
process
can
be
very
slow,
so
they
don't
necessarily
move
through
our
pipeline
very
quickly.
So
some
of
these
other
resources
that
we
have
enable
us
to
do
that
so,
but
specifically
I,
think
it's
very
important
to
note
that
they
always
have
to
go
to
the
highest
bidder.
C
Anybody
that
puts
an
application
in
for
a
property
may
not
actually
be
the
person
that
winds
up
with
it.
Anybody
can
object
to
the
sales
process
up
until
we
have
quiet
title
to
the
property,
which
means
when
we
sell
it
to
you.
The
title
is
free
and
clear
of
any
kind
of
you
know
attachments,
so
you
get
to
start
fresh,
but
up
until
that
point,
any
other
interested
proper.
C
A
person
can
come
and
apply
for
it,
in
which
case,
if
there's
more
than
one
qualified
purchaser,
it
would
go
to
court
auction
and
then
again
a
judge
would
put
it
to
auction
and
it
would
go
again
to
the
highest
bidder.
So
a
lot
of
times,
even
though
we
send
this
legislation
up
saying
that
we
intend
to
sell
it
to
this
person,
it
may
not
actually
be
that
person
after
we
go
through
this
whole
process
that
actually
winds
up
with
the
property
so
yeah.
C
So
we
in
the
past
you
know
things
have
been
pretty
slow,
but
we've
done
some
reorganizing,
and
so
last
year
we
actually
still
have
about
94.
We
started
like
94
95
sales
last
year
and
closed
on
68
of
them,
so
they're
still
not
almost
100
of
them
yet
to
close
on
this
year
that
are
currently
moving
through
the
sales
process,
and
this
only
started
basically
after
March
2022.
We
didn't
sell
anything
for
the
first
three
months
of
the
year
this
year,
up
until
this
month.
C
C
C
C
C
Some
other
things
that
we're
looking
at
too
are
using
green
ways
to
actually
if
we
have
properties
in
land
prone
or
slide
prone
areas
on
slopes,
and
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
sell
those
to
the
general
public,
because
development
could
potentially
cause
it
to
slide
and
in
good
faith.
I.
Think
that
really
isn't
good
for
business,
so
I
think
we're
looking
at
so
we're
looking
at
making
them
environmental
Greenways
to
keep
that
from
happening
and
also
from
being
clear-cuts.
D
C
So,
just
over
the
past
10
years,
this
just
sort
of
gives
you
a
look
at
the
percentages
of
the
different
types
of
sales
that
we've
done.
You
know
how
many
we've
transferred
to
the
Ura,
how
many
we've
sold
that
T-cell
is
actually
public
sales
and
other
sales,
such
as
the
cdcs
and
side
yards,
and
what
that
looks
like.
C
I
think
that's
pretty
much.
It
I
think
next
steps
we're
looking
at
holding
in
the
past.
We've
only
had
maybe
three
treasure
sales
per
year
during
covid.
We've
only
had
one
mostly
because
they
had
to
be
held
virtually,
and
that
was
a
whole
different
set
of
issues,
but
this
year,
because
we've
added
extra
staff,
we
are
actually
able
to
do.
We've
scheduled
four
treasure
sales
for
this
year
and
I.
Think
in
future,
we're
probably
going
to
try
to
hold
that
many
as
well.
D
F
F
What
I'll
focus
on
a
bit
is
the
the
ura's
disposition
process.
I.
Think
councilmember
gross
gave
a
good
overview
of
sort
of
the
comparative
advantages,
if
you
will
of
the
city
process
or
the
challenges
of
those
that
as
well
as
well
as
the
Ura
process
and
the
promise
of
what
the
land
bank
you
know
could
do
as
we
think
about
neighborhood
scale
projects
so
we'll
touch
on.
You
know
those
themes,
a
bit
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
because
I
know
folks
have
questions
they
want
to
get
into.
F
So
yeah
that
was
the
overview
that
I
mentioned
we'll
kind
of
touch
on
each
of
those.
Here
very
briefly,
this
is
really
just
meant
to
sort
of
diagram.
What
council,
member
gross
I
think
did
a
good
job
of
walking
through
you
know.
At
one
end
of
the
spectrum,
we
have
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
in
our
disposition
process
there
that
as
director
Gula
walked
you
through,
it
was
really
focused
around
the
treasure
sale
and
that
we
have
to
sell
to
the
highest
bidder.
F
There's
instances
where
we
want
to
do
that
right.
It
makes
sense,
there's
instances
where
we
don't.
On
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum.
You
know
we
have
the
the
urban
Redevelopment
Authority
and,
as
the
council
member
alluded
to,
our
process
can
be
quite
cumbersome.
There's
a
lot
of
barriers
to
entry.
If
you
will,
those
are
well
placed,
you
know,
they're
rooted
in
state
Redevelopment
law
and
the
ura's
disposition
process.
F
Fourth,
with
a
Redevelopment
plan
to
us
as
the
Redevelopment
Authority
are
going
to
indeed
end
up,
do
doing
what
they
said
they
were
so
we
make
sure
that
they
have
all
their
finances
in
place,
all
their
drawings
and
everything
you
know
finished,
so
it
works
really
well
for
larger
scale
projects
when
we
think
about
you
know,
one-offs
a
single
homeowner,
small-scale
commercial,
some
of
the
instances
that
the
director
talked
on
around
Urban
Ag
and
things
of
that
nature.
That's
a
lot
for
you
know.
F
As
the
council
member
said
smaller,
you
know
not
as
well
resource
groups
that
don't
have
five
lawyers.
We
indeed
only
even
have
two
with
us
today
to
get
through
that
process.
So
you
know
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
you
can
see
you
know
a
few
examples
of
you
know
recent
URI
projects
that
we
have
done.
You
know
disposition
on
and
as
council
member
gross
you
know
mentioned
those
votes
when
we're
getting
ready
to
dispose
of
those
properties.
Come
you
know
through
city
council
as
well.
F
So,
just
last
week
you
all
took
a
vote
related
to
Bedford
Choice
phases,
one
A
and
B.
This
is
a
project
council
member
Lavelle
knows
very
well.
That's
the
image
that
you
see
there,
too,
and
and
through
that
and
a
few
others
on
here
we've
been
able
to
really
leverage
the
uras
process
to
help
us
Advance,
affordable
housing
efforts
across
the
city.
As
an
example,
Bedford
itself
is
123
units
total.
F
It's
going
to
help
us
to
facilitate
some
off-site
development
to
allow
for
move
first
for
the
residents
of
Bedford
so
that
they
don't
have
to
find
temporary
housing
before
the
new
units
are
built
and
then,
importantly,
as
part
of
choice,
neighborhood
should
be
successful
in
getting
that
Grant
from
the
federal
government
will
do
one
for
one
replacement
for
every
unit
there.
But
for
this
this
one
in
particular
it's
123
total
units.
99
of
those
are
affordable,
with
90
of
them
being
replacement
units.
G
F
Think
you're
all
familiar
with
the
success
we
had
around
Larimer
choice.
I
would
say
there
again:
you
know:
housing
was
the
Prime
Focus.
There
was
334
units
of
new
housing
there,
roughly
half
or
so
of
those
a
little
over
a
third
actually
were
affordable
and
or
were
placement
units,
and
then
another
third
were
additional
affordable
units,
but
there
too,
we
were
also
able
to
help
facilitate
the
building
of
a
new
City
Park.
Expansion
of
you
know:
Green
Storm
water
infrastructure
and
then
also
a
community
garden
and
Community
Green
Space.
F
That
was
important
to
the
larmer
consensus
group.
Cedarwood
homes,
the
council
president
I
know
this
is
one
that
she's
familiar
with
in
her
District
senior.
You
know
housing,
that's
that's
being
facilitated
through
that
process,
as
well
as
Hilltop
scattered
sites.
This
is
in
council
member
krause's,
which
will
be
at
least
to
own
structure
through
the
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
program
and
then
one
that
that
you
know
hopefully,
will
be
in
position
to
vote
on
soon.
That's
in
District
Four,
you
know,
is
berg
place,
which
was
a
long
process.
F
A
very
challenged,
property
and
again
is
well
suited
for
the
Ura
to
take
on
Fairwood
industrial
parks.
Another
one,
it's
a
larger
scale,
25
acres,
you
know
heavier
scale,
industrial,
not
something
that
would
make
sense
to
go
through
the
city
process
because
of
those
protections
that
we'd
want
to
see,
but
does
make
sense
to
go
through
the
ura's
process
because
of
the
way
that
the
the
I
tried
to
get
some
variety
yeah
yeah
I
tried
to
get
some
variety
in.
F
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide
and
I
think
the
council
member
council
member
gross
touched
on
this
really
the
potential
as
we
see
it
with
the
land
bank,
is
for
that
neighborhood
scale
development,
because
it
does
have
certain
advantages.
I'm
only
touching
on
two
here,
there's
some
others
we
can
get
into
you
know,
as
questions
may
come
up,
but
there's
more
control
over
the
end
user,
as
opposed
to
the
city's
open
bid
process.
F
I
think
director
Gula
touched
on
that
councilmember
gross
touched
on
that,
so
it
allows
for
some
control
related
to
that
with
the
end
use
akin
to
the
Ura.
But,
more
importantly,
in
the
second
bullet
point,
there's
lower
barriers
to
entry
for
smaller
projects.
So
we
still
get
public
protections
to
ensure
that
what's
ultimately
done,
there
is
what
they
said,
but
it's
not
to
the
level
of
of
you
know:
barrier
if
you
will,
as
the
Ura
process
would
have,
and
then
because
of
that
these
are
really
well
suited
for
neighborhood
projects.
F
You
know
the
legislation
is
before
us
or
before
you
pardon
me
right
now
in
terms
of
the
original
tri-party
agreement
which
was
entered
into
between
the
Ura,
the
city
and
the
land
bank
from
July
2018
and
then
previously
amended
shortly
thereafter.
The
proposed
amendment
before
us
now
is
really
just
to
allow
for
transferring
of
properties
between
the
entities,
the
previous
structure
of
it
only
allowed
for
transfer
properties
from
the
land
bank
to
the
other
two
entities.
F
The
process
is
kind
of
now
envisioned
would
mimic
something
similar
as
the
ura's
process
that
you're
all
familiar
with.
Where
there's
a
concurrence
memo
It
ultimately
comes
to
council
for
a
vote
and
then
goes
through.
You
know
final
disposition
with
the
land
bank
in
this
instance,
as
opposed
to
the
Ura,
so
I
can
stop
there.
Thank
you.
H
Often
we
have
contributed
to
some
neighborhood
blight,
because
those
properties
continue
to
sit
out
there
and
aren't
being
developed
being
used
being
taken
care
of,
and
they
also
have
the
added
negativity
of
the
fact
that
they're
also
not
there's
no
one's
paying
taxes
on
them
either,
so
they
are
somewhat
contributing
to
our
situation.
So
what
we
hope?
H
What
council
approved?
What
mayor
Gainey
put
into
his
budget
was
a
real
estate
position
in
the
legal
department
so
that
we
could
concentrate
just
on
those
13
000
properties
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
move
the
levers
more
quickly
to
get
them
through
the
quiet
title
process
more
quickly,
to
figure
out
kind
of
creative
legal
solutions
to
turn
them
into
affordable
housing
ownership
and
but,
as
I
say
that
with
the
fact
that
there's
13
000
of
them,
there
is
not
one
solution
for
any
of
them.
H
We
need
to
dive
into
the
details
of
each
of
these
properties.
Ura
is
one
of
the
solutions.
The
land
bank
is
one
of
the
solutions.
The
city
is
one
of
the
solutions.
Cdc's
are
one
of
the
solutions,
but
all
of
them
are
needed
in
order
for
us
to
make
real
a
real
difference
on
those
the
amount
of
those
properties
and
to
bring
that
down
to
a
more
reasonable
size
and
yet
make
sure
that
that
land
is
being
properly
used
in
the
community.
H
So
I
believe
the
one
big
benefit
for
us
from
a
legal
perspective
for
the
land
bank
is
one
that
they
can
join
multiple
properties
in
one
complaint
that
goes
in
front
of
court,
and
so
that
speeds
along
the
process-
and
the
second
is
that
they
have
mandatory
time
limits
for
The
Quiet
Title
process.
So
the
city
is
committed
to
continuing
to
quiet
title
on
the
properties
that
it
owns.
That
will
stay
with
the
city
and
we
will
continue
to
keep
a
large
amount
of
that.
H
I
will
also
say
this:
the
city
is
committed
to
its
oversight
role
and
making
sure
that
if
these
properties
go
to
other
buyers,
be
they
the
Ura,
be
they
the
land
bank,
be
they
anybody
else,
be
they
cdc's
that
we
make
sure
that
they
are
sticking
to
a
plan
that
the
development
is
happening
quickly,
that
it
is
happening.
The
way
that
city
council
and
the
mayor
wanted
to
happen,
and
so
we
never
are
relinquishing
our
oversight
role,
regardless
of
where
those
properties
sit.
H
But
we
do
need
every
lever
we
have
in
order
to
make
sure
we're
making
a
dent
on
that
and
I'm
here.
To
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
also
Jack
Miller
is
the
real
estate
attorney
he's
only
been
in
that
position
a
couple
of
months,
but
as
he
gets
his
arms
around
all
of
the
details
of
this
process
he's
also
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
thank.
A
We
only
received
I
think
in
late
November
early
December,
so
we,
the
the
initial
resolution,
came
off
across
to
the
council
table
without
any
of
the
attached
documents.
It's
just
an
open
request
for
authorization,
so
I
I
think
we
had
a
bunch
of
us
in
the
room
at
the
same
time,
but
I'm
still
tempted
to
kind
of
just
go
down
the
table.
Councilwoman
Smith.
Would
you
like
to
go
first
or
all
right?
J
H
The
state
law,
the
that
created
land
Banks,
set
a
period
of
time
that
the
courts
have
to
respond
to
a
request
for
quiet
title.
So,
unfortunately,
the
way
civil
cases
currently
happen
in
our
court
system
and
again
no
shade
on
the
Judiciary
of
the
Allegheny
County,
because,
honestly,
in
many
times
they
have
been
extremely
timely
with
us,
but
at
the
same
time
they
don't
have
set
deadlines,
and
the
land
bank,
in
its
kind
of
unique
position,
sets
a
deadline
that
makes
sure
that
it
gets
through
the
process
more
quickly.
Okay,.
J
I
J
C
The
largest
part
of
that
process
is
The
Quiet
Title
process.
So
even
though
we're
probably
the
most
efficient
that
that
office
has
ever
run
with
processing
applications
and
sales,
The
Quiet
Title
process
is
the
biggest
chunk
of
time
in
the
whole
city
sales
process.
It
takes
a
long
time
to
sometimes
we
used
to
get
our
own
title
reports,
but
thankfully
we've
actually
put
that
to
the
purchaser
now.
So
it
depends
on
how
long
it
takes
the
purchaser
than
to
get
a
title
report
to
us.
C
But
then
we
actually
have
to
serve
every
single
creditor
in
the
title
report,
and
sometimes
it
takes
research
to
find
if
there's
any
address,
changes
or
anything
of
that
nature
has
to
be
extremely
detailed
and
then
once
we
serve
them
and
notify
them
that
we're
actually
doing
a
quiet
title,
we
have
to
wait
for
all
the
mail
to
come
back.
We
send
it
certified
and
after
every
single
piece
comes
back,
then
there's
a
clock
for
30
days.
They
get
30
days
in
which
to
respond
to
contest
The
Quiet
Title
action.
C
If
there
are
no
contestants,
then
we
can
file
the
petition
and
then
we
are
at
the
mercy
of
the
courts
as
to
when
it
goes
in
front
of
a
judge.
In
order
for
him
to
wipe
the
title
clean
so
it
takes,
it
could
take
a
long
time
and
it's
not
necessarily
a
timeline
that
we
have
very
much
control
over
at
all.
H
I
will
say
this
I
think
director
ghoul
has
made
a
lot
of
changes
already
that
have
started
to
speed
up
that
process
within
her
team
she's.
Also
gotten
some
software
that
is
really
helpful
to
get
us
to
tracking
that
that
we
will
be
using
in
the
Law
Department
as
well.
We
are
also
looking
into
other
options,
legal
options
that
we
do
at
the
treasurer
sale
process
that
would
make
this
Quiet
Title
process
quicker.
H
So
we,
you
know
part
of
our
goal-
is
to
speed
that
process
up
as
much
as
possible,
and
we
will
I
think
make
strides
on
that.
So
I
want
us
to
still
know
that
there,
the
city
will
make
sure
that
it
is
prepared
to
process
these
properties
as
quickly
as
it
can
from
its
side.
That
said,
there's
still
certain
things
that
the
land
bank
can
do
better
than
the
city,
but
I
am
not,
but
I
think
we
need
both
levers
to
be
able
to
keep
going
so.
J
H
F
H
J
Regard
like
I
mean
you
know,
I,
we
definitely
had
people
speaking
here,
who
sort
of
at
least
in
my
interpretation
seem
to
feel
that
they
were
coming
to
speak
for
something
that
would
like
quickly
get
them
there
like.
They
can
finally
get
that
side
yard.
You
know
what
I
mean
if
we
just
had
the
lambing
and
I
think
it's
important
to
sort
of
set
expectations
with
the
public.
J
My
one
concern
here-
and
this
is
all
again
like
hypothetical
right
so
I-
understand
that
Council
would
approve
the
transfer
of
properties
to
The
Landing.
So
let's
say
you
know
in
you
know
four
houses
in
Hazelwood
and
they're
going
to
get
transferred
to
the
land
bank,
but
then
Council
doesn't
have
any
say
about
where
who
who
buys
those
so
and
we
can
say
like
the
mayor
and
whatever
have
that,
but
but
I
don't
know
who
the
mayor
is
going
to
be
in
50
years
and
I.
J
So
without
I
I
mean
and
I.
Don't
know
how
that
would
work
legally
but
like
it
coming
back
again
to
council
about
who
who
is
going
to
buy
that
you
know
who
is
the
land
bank
then
going
to
sell
that
property
to
with
the
understanding
like
everything
else
we
do
like
99
of
the
time
it's
going
to
be
fine,
we're
going
to
vote
Yes
and
it'll
be
fine,
but
every
once
in
a
while
there
might
be,
and
and
as
the
council
person
you
kind
of
want
to.
F
I
I,
it's
a
fair
question:
councilmember
I,
I,
think
I'd
say
a
few
things.
You
know
one
underscore
the
the
point
that
the
solicitor
made
in
terms
of
you
know
the
city's
continued
role
right
related
to
oversight,
I
I.
Think
in
terms
of
the
way
you
know
the
transfers
could
happen.
You
know
I
know
now
right,
Council
votes
on
them,
sort
of
related
to
use
right.
So
that
could
be
one
way
in
which
this
you
know
could
take
where
you're
voting
on
a
transfer
related
to
sort
of
what
a
set
uses.
F
F
In
terms
of
then,
you
know
if
there
was
a
change
in
use.
You
know
what
that
might
look
like
I
I
am
not
here
like
as
a
land
bank
board
member,
so
in
a
normal
amount
on
that
board,
so
I
can't
speak
to
the
policies
and
procedures
they've
adopted.
I
know
you
know
some
time
ago,
I
believe
they
were
presented
to
council.
F
They
do
have
within
their
policies
and
procedures,
a
prioritization
if
you
will
related
to
whom
they
would
sell
the
properties
to
focusing
on
you
know
low-income
homeowners,
then
owner
occupants,
you
know
on
the
way
down
so
before
they
would
even
get
to
a
place
where
they
were
selling
it.
To
someone
that
you
know
isn't
in
those
other
things
to
you
know,
developer
X
right
there
they
would
have
gone
through
a
number
of
other
things,
but
I
I
think
to
the
categorization.
F
H
Yeah
I'll
say
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
and
I'm,
not
saying
we
we're
not
there
yet,
but
is
about
deed
restrictions
that
the
city
could
put
on
any
property
that
it
transfers.
So
we
put
on
deed
restrictions
so
that
it
therefore
can
only
be
used
for
certain
circumstances
through
I,
agree,
I
think
it.
It
really
is
about
the
fact
that
the
land
bank
board
has
set
out
the
rules
on
which
it
will
transfer
over
properties.
H
That
said
to
your
point,
like
what
I'm,
what
we're
finding
out
about
a
lot
of
these
properties
is,
this
is
the
original
plan,
and
then
you
know,
interest
rates
fall
apart,
Market
falls
apart.
Somebody
goes
bankrupt,
like
those
are
all
the
things
that
contribute
so
I
do
think
it
is
the
important
oversight
role
both
of
council
and
of
the
city
specifically
to
make
sure
that
we're
following
up
on
those
projects
and
certainly
before
any
other
project
properties,
are
transferred.
You
know
you
get
updates
on.
H
What's
going
on
with
those
properties,
have
those
properties
been
properly
recycled
and
are
they
in
a
place
where
we're
happy
with
them,
or
are
we
still
sitting
on
25
other
ones
and
yet
you're
asking
for
another
25
right
and
I
think
that
kind
of
diligence
over
making
sure
that
these
are
being
moved
and
they're,
because
I'll
say
historically
long
before
any
of
us
were
sitting
around
this
table?
That
has
been
one
of
our
problems
as
I.
H
Look
at
this
is
that
people
had
Grand
plans,
they
acquired
lots
of
property,
and
then
nothing
happened
to
that
property
and
we've
got
to
make
sure
that's
not
happening
that
we
are
really
holding
people
accountable
for
the
plans
that
they're
they're
holding
on
to
to,
and
even
if
that
is
to
the
you're,
not
getting
any
more
until
those
are
processed
would
be.
My
recommendation.
J
See
that's
what
I
mean
is.
Oh
I
I
agree
with
all
of
that,
but
if
you
had
that
extra
step
right,
that
would
give
the
community
through
I,
mean
through
their
elected
representative,
right,
the
the
ability
to
say
Hey.
You
know
this
CDC
or
this
whatever
is
not
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
in
our
community
like
they
are
not.
You
know,
they're,
buying
up
all
these
properties
and
not
fixing
them
to
to
the
way
that
we
would
like
to
see
it
done.
J
We
don't
want
them,
buying
any
more
property
until
right,
but
but
the
land
bank
board
doesn't
know
that
it's
it's
the
communities
that
know
that,
and
we
can
say
it,
but
if
we
don't
have,
but
if
it's
not
in
there
with
the
vote
and
I
mean
really,
it
would
really
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
legal
issue
with
putting
that
step
in
the
process,
but
I
mean
it's
really
only
a
two-week
process
right
with
us
with.
If
you,
if
you
wave
rule
eight
right,
that's
two.
J
H
H
J
J
But
it
is
part
of
that
funding
intended
to
to
to
sort
of
subsidize
that
kind
of
work
for
residents
I
mean
because
to
pay
50
Grand
to
stabilize
a
root.
You
know
I
mean
to
stabilize
a
a
property.
That's
falling
down,
I
mean
that's
not
a
deal
right
like
if,
if
you,
if
you
could
just
go,
buy
a
house
right.
So
that's
that
that's
not
actually
helping
folks
who
want
to
kind
of
have
you
know,
take
their
first
shot
at
flipping.
A
property
or
something
like
that.
G
F
F
There
are
certainly
you
know,
programs
that
could
fall
in
line.
You
know
when
we
think
about
ompgh
that
we
recently
launched
Etc
that
can
help
with
that.
Coupled
with
you
know,
203k,
like
you
know,
home
buyer
renovation,
loans
and
other
lending
partners
that
we're
bringing
to
the
table
and
we'll
put
in
a
Shameless
plug
that
we're
soliciting
additional
banking
Partners.
Now,
if
there's
anyone
watching
who
wants
to
respond
to
that
call,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
a
combination
of
things.
F
J
Yeah
because
I
mean
I
and
and
again
like
I,
said:
there's
a
role
for
everyone
and
the
cdc's
are
doing
great
work.
I
mean
I'm,
obviously
have
my
head
in
in
Greater,
Hazelwood
they're
doing
great
work,
but
there
are
also
folks
who
wish
that
they
too
could
kind
of
get
in
on
this.
You
know
on
this
property,
you
know
stuff.
D
J
Going
on
in
the
neighborhood
and
and
and
there
doesn't
feel
like
an
Avenue
to
do
that
right
to
just
buy
it
from
the
city
is
just
sounds
Beyond
complicated,
not
that
it
is,
but
but
it
just
feel
you
know
and
and
they're
sort
of
feeling.
It's
like
everything
just
goes
to
the
cdc's
through
the
Ura,
and
it
would
be
nice
if
there
was
a
subsidized
way.
No.
H
We
we
agree
completely,
and
we
are
looking
into
that
of
ways
that
we
can
actually
keep
these
property
properties
that
aren't
not
about
the
land
bank,
but
they
would
stay
with
the
city
and
we
would
be
able
to
kind
of
get
them
to
potentially
with
deed
restrictions,
for
affordable
housing
buyers.
Who
would
buy
them
for
cheap
right
and
then
be
able
to
get
a
loan
to
invest
in
the
renovation.
G
H
Because
if
you
buy
it
for
low
enough
right,
you
can
contemplate
that
it's
actually,
once
it
is
fixed
up
they'll,
be
able
to
get
a
loan
to
be
able
to
renovate
it
and
kind
of
be
able
to
live
there.
Owner
occupied
restrictions,
those
kind
of
things.
So
we
are
exploring
that
right
now
and
hope
to
have
a
plan
on
that
as
well
and
I,
and
couple
with
some
of
the
Ura
funding
streams
that
are
out
there
as
well,
but
I
think
that
sometimes
is
going
to
be.
H
The
best
way
is
the
fact
is
that
either
the
land
bank
or
the
city
sells
them
for
a
pretty
low
amount
and
then
be
someone
can
get
a
loan
for
the
renovation
piece
of
it
all.
At
the
same
time,
I
would
like
it
that
the
city
and
the
land
bank
sell
things
that
have
a
good
out
envelope
right,
a
decent
roof
that
the
walls
are
in
decent
shape,
so
that
we
make
sure
that
those
properties
don't
fall
kind
of
farther
behind
the
yeah.
J
K
You
chair
I,
first,
want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
I
want
to
thank
councilwoman
gross
for
her
work
initially
in
2014
2013-14
passing,
you
know,
taking
the
charge
and
passing
this
bill
and
the
members
of
the
current
members
of
the
lambing
board
from
Council,
including
councilman,
Wilson,
councilman,
Lavelle,
Reverend
Burgess,
because
I
think
that
this
is
like
the
number
one
issue
that
could
help
Pittsburgh
grow.
K
Our
population
grow
a
tax
base
to
be
able
to
provide
greater
services
to
the
public
and
residents
and
visitors,
and
probably
one
of
the
number
one
things
holding
us
back
as
a
city
is
a
mid-sized
city.
So
I'm
really
really
glad
that
we're
here
today
and
I
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions.
This
first
one
I,
don't
know
who
at
the
table
can
answer
this,
and
if
it's
another
council
member,
then
that's
fine
too,
but
I.
K
Note
that
the
previous
agreement
only
provided
a
path
for
the
land
bank
to
transfer
property
to
the
city,
and
this
agreement
allows
for
the
city
to
finally
transfer
property
to
the
land
bank.
We've
all
known
that
the
cities
had
thousands
and
thousands
of
prop.
Why
does
anyone
know
why
that
was
the
case?
K
Okay,
just
wanted
to
ask
the
question
I'm
glad
we're
finally
correcting
that,
and
it's
an
important
piece
and
a
zillion
details
that
we're
we're
here
to
discuss
today.
I
was
wondering
I've
heard
a
lot
about
the
senator
Fontana
bill
at
the
state
level.
Can
you
explain
to
me
and
to
maybe
anyone
listening
in
what
that
actually
does
or
how
that
interacts?
With
with
what
we're
dealing
with
today,.
F
There
are
this
in
the
room,
far
far
more
versed
in
in
the
the
the
bounds
of
miktol,
if
you
will,
but
it
would
really
help
us.
You
know
related
to
getting
clear
title
through
the
share
of
sale
process
rather
than
treasure
sale
in
a
more
expedited
manner
through
the
land
bank
for
new
acquisitions.
So.
D
G
F
F
K
We
already
own
okay,
so
less
urgent
than
I.
First
thought
I
was
thinking
that
that
would
be
necessary
to
make
this
functional,
but
as
I
understand
it
further
it
it
can
be.
Whenever
it
passes,
is
fine,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
kind
of
a
problem
we're
dealing
with
down
the
line
not
immediately.
Okay,.
K
Has
anyone
done
the
conducted
the
thought
experiment
of
like
thinking
through
all
the
way
through
like
how
that
how
those
two
can
interact
or
what
that
looks
like
or
is
it
as
simple
as
hey?
You
know,
Oakland
Land
Trust
wants
to
use
the
lambing
process
to
purchase
a
property
and
then
deed
it.
So
it's
permanently
affordable
land
as
people
are
building
home
ownership.
F
F
K
But
I
I
really
am
sort
of
wrestling
with
this
idea
of
council
approval,
even
for
the
first
one,
because
I
just
don't
want
to
slow
down
the
process
which
is
going
to
be
a
different
calculation
say
10
years
from
now.
When
maybe
this,
the
speed
is
less
important
than
the
then
then
the
the
intention
of
the
end
buyer
or
user
right
so
right
now,
speed
and
alacrity
is
like
my
priority
and
I
I
really
would
hate
to
slow
it
down
with
even
one
Council
approval,
because
it
was
my
I.
K
Don't
know
it
was
my.
It
was
my
understanding
and
councilwoman
gross
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
the
original
intent
of
the
land
bank
kind
of
back
in
2014
was
complete
removal
from
Council
oversight
and
and
and
the
need
for
you
know,
taking
this
completely
out
of
council's
hands
and
putting
into
a
separate
entity
to
sort
of
speed
up
the
process.
I
might
be
wrong
about
that.
A
So
it
did
become
an
independent
like
the
city
clerk
I
watched,
her
mail
it
to
Harrisburg
and
that
that
was
our
vote
was
the
act
of
incorporating
it
as
an
independent
nonprofit,
but
it
of
course,
was
incorporate
Incorporated
with
zero
properties.
So
city
council
has
always
had
control
over
these
properties.
K
So
I
mean
I,
I,
still
I'm
still
wrestling
with
it.
I
I
do
I,
am
kind
of
in
agreement
that
I
guess
for
now
having
one
two-week
process
at
least
baked
in
here
allows
for,
at
the
very
least
it
coming
to
the
council
members
attention
and
if
anything
needs
to
happen
they
can,
they
can,
you
know,
raise
a
red
flag.
K
I
do
still
worry
about
a
little
bit
too
much
involvement
of
counsel
over
a
process
that
we
just
really
want
to
speed
up
for
the
sake
of
the
city,
but
I
hope
that
doesn't
come
to
pass
and
I
hope,
I'm
wrong
about
that
and
I
hope
we
can
just
kind
of
move
these
along
and
improve
as
we
do
a
lot
of
other.
You
know
just
disposing
properties
of
side,
yard
sales
and
others.
So,
but
certainly
you
know
take
what
councilman
work
was
saying
seriously
about.
K
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
thanks
everyone
for
being
here.
Thank
you,
chair
for
hosting
this,
and
thank
you,
madam
president,
for
getting
this
to
the
table.
So
we
can
talk
about
this
and
in
the
and
then
the
near
future
I'm
looking
forward
to
through
a
vote,
you
know
in
terms
of
getting
this
getting
us
through
getting
us
accomplished,
I
think
it's
been,
it's
been
quite
some
time
since
this
was
proposed
so
and
this
was
sent
over
from
OMB
all
right
and,
and
so
this
is.
F
L
You
know
blighted
neighborhoods
that
have
happened,
so
that
said,
whenever
it
was
sent
over
to
counsel
I
just
want
to
walk
through
this,
because
I
think
it's
important.
What
was
sent
over
was
you
know,
was
an
authorization
for
us
to
allow
the
mayor
to
enter
into
the
agreement.
So
I
was
on
earlier.
I
was
paying
attention
to,
although
I
couldn't
see
the
slides,
I
was
paying
attention.
What
was
being
said
now,
I
see
the
slides
in
front
of
me.
I
see
that
this
is,
you
know
we
have
this
flow
chart
here.
L
Was
this
the
part
you
went
over
Kyle
okay,
so
it
is
the
intent
for
okay,
so
to
be
clear,
so
I
have
to
back
up
a
second.
What
was
sent
over
was
just
that.
The
typical
the
regular
agreement,
the
original
agreement,
and
so
the
amended
version,
is
what
you
all
would
do
once
it
got
to
on
your
side.
You
would.
L
What
I
can
be
more
clear,
yeah
and
you
know,
council
person
gross.
You
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
what
was
sent
over
was
just
the
regular
agreement,
the
agreement
that
didn't
have
an
amendment
in
it.
That's
what's
on
legislar,
so
it's
on
legendstar
is
just
yeah
yeah,
but
what
was
said
over
entirely
I
mean
typically,
we
don't
actually
get
the
we
don't
actually
get
the
agreement
right.
So
what's
that
yeah
I'll,
take
it,
but
currently,
what's
on
legislar
is
just
the
regular
version.
F
I
F
L
L
A
L
Oh
I'm
just
trying
to
make
clear
that
just
so
the
public
knows
what
the
what
the
Amendments
would
be
because
I
mean.
Typically,
we
don't
have
to
have
it
just
like
in
the
park
Stacks.
Whenever
we
want
to
audit
the
PPC
there
wasn't
you
know
there
wasn't
all
the
agreements
on
every
time,
there's
an
agreement
that
we
enter
into
the
PPC.
It's
not
like
it's
on
the
it's
on
on
registrar.
Every
time
we
have
an
agreement.
We
don't
see
that
on
register.
L
F
H
D
H
D
L
G
L
L
H
L
D
F
I
I,
no
I
I,
don't
know
that
I
know
there.
There's
you
know,
discussions
on.
You
know
a
few.
You
know
two
or
three
dozen,
but
I
don't
know
you
know
initially,
and
those
are
conversations
that
I
know
you're
having
at
the
board
level
with
the
land
bank
and
they're
in
the
team
in
terms
of
what
those
would
look
like.
You
know,
but
I
there's
nothing
within
the
agreement
that
sort
of
lays
out
this
many
or
that
many.
If
that's,
where
you're
going
so.
L
F
I
I
mean
I
think
it
did
I'm
speaking
a
bit
out
of
turn
here,
but
to
get
started
on
something
so
that
we
can
learn
right.
Like
you
know,
we
have
this
tool
here.
I
think
you've
heard
all
of
us
talk
about
sort
of
the
promise
of
it.
It's
ability
to
fill
a
need
within
you
know
the
tools
that
we
have
to
bring
that
tool
to
Bear,
but
we
haven't
used
it
before
right
so
so
there
is
an
importance
to
be
able
to
begin
to
see.
L
L
You
know
that
we
typical
in
terms
of
our
how
you
know
we
still
maintain
power
in
terms
of
you
know,
getting
to
authorize
whether
or
not
that
property
is
going
to
be
sent
to
the
land
bank
in
terms
of
anything
further
I'm
hesitant
to
to
Really.
You
know
micromanage
all
those
different
properties
in
terms
of
just
like
you
said
I
think
I
actually
heard
the
comment
in
terms
of
you
know.
Would
there
be
a
public
hearing
then,
for
that,
like?
How
do
we
gather
all
the
information
to
understand
that?
L
Really
what
I'm
looking
forward
to-
and
you
know
some
on
the
land
bank
board-
is
to
be
a
part
of
that
Equitable
process,
so
that
you
know
people
who
enter
into
you
know
possible
that
this
is
that
disposition
process,
that
they
have
a
a
fair
shot
and
that
something
like
you
know,
want
a
capital,
wouldn't
would
never
get.
You
know
a
property.
L
Driven
I
mean
it's
solely
CDC
driven
currently
and
to
expand
that
to
individual
private
owners
would
be
the
future
and
to
give
you
know,
criteria
around
you
know
that
disposition
process
on
who,
where
that
property
will
be
offloaded
into
the
right
hands,
I
think
would
be
great,
but
in
terms
of
market
rate,
development
I
think
that's.
That
would
get
the
least
amount
of
points.
L
I
know
that
gets
the
least
amount
of
points
right
now
and
that
this
whole
process
is
geared
towards
increasing
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
and
so
that
children
don't
have
to
walk
past.
You
know
vacant
abandoned
property
when
they're,
you
know,
celebrating
the
walk
to
school
day,
so
I
think
it's
just
a
real
tragedy.
L
So
I
I'm
a
firm
believer
that
we
should
be
acting
as
soon
as
possible
and
take
a
vote
on
this,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
you
know
another
child
doesn't
walk
past
the
vacant
and
property
that
they
don't
have
to.
You
know.
We
all
know
the
stats
on
that
and
we
all
know
the
numbers
right
now
in
terms
of
even
stabilizing
properties.
L
L
That's
what
the
so
that's
why
this
is
the
property.
Is
it's
so
important?
This
is
so
important
to
get
this
done,
because
the
7
million
is
really
what's
going
to
get
everyone
working
together
where
it's
the
the
mayor's
office.
Well,
the
lotta,
the
city,
the
tri-party
agreement
right.
You
know
all
three
parties
where
we
all
agree
upon
the
process
and
everyone
is
is
taken.
A
part
of
you
know
what's
possible.
L
So
there
was
another
point
in
that,
because
that
money,
that
seven
million
is
what
we
can
use
for
stabilization
for
clearing
title
and
also
the
next
step,
would
be
to
you
know,
activate
the
the
the
three
taxing
body
agreement
so
that
that
three
tax
and
body
agreement
can
be
finalized.
Then
everyone's
on
the
same
page
there
you
know
how
we're
gonna,
you
know,
collect
taxes
that
way
as
well
or
how
we're
not
going
to
collect
taxes,
but
I'm
I'm,
definitely
interested
in
moving
this
forward
and
I
appreciate.
L
You
know
any
council
members
that
want
to
you
know
really
move
this
forward
as
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
that
little
point
in
the
beginning
there
I
think,
is
important
because
even
recently,
I
had
a
discussion
with
OMB
about
how
Council
can't
direct
the
mayor
to
do
certain
things.
So
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on.
If
there
are
amendments
made
to
the
to
to
the
you
know
to
this
agreement
can
counsel
under
the
charter
Direct
the
mayor
in
terms
of
the
agreement.
H
L
M
M
Okay-
well
maybe
one
of
you
can
answer
this
question
for
me,
since
the
land
bank
isn't
here,
is
a
land
bank
going
to
need
more
capacity?
And
let
me
just
ask
you
this:
what
is
the
salary
at
the
land
bank?
How
many
people
work
there
now
currently
I
know
Sally
is
a
director,
but
well
what
is
she
manager,
but
so
how
many
people
work
at
the
land
bank.
M
F
To
confirm
that
I'm
saying
this
correctly,
but
there's
there's
a
land
bank
manager
and
then
there's
another,
the
staff
member
who
who
works,
to
support
that
effort,
One
support
staff
and
then
there's
there's
an
administrative
agreement
with
the
Ura.
You
know
where
they're
able
to
also
then
kind
of
tap
into
some
of
those
other
support
services
that
the
authority
can
offer
I
think
you
know
to
the
ability
that
they're
going
to
need
to
Outsource
some
of
the
stuff
when
we
think
about
the
title,
work,
etc.
F
M
The
idea,
once
the
land
bank
providing
this
bill
passes
once
a
land
bank
is
in
its
new
role,
whether
it
be
one
staffer
or
two
or
three
I.
Don't
imagine
the
board
members
get
involved
in
the
day-to-day
operations
as
to
what
properties
we
need
to
acquire
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
to
me,
it
just
seems
like
one
staff
member
just
isn't
enough
to
really
get
rolling.
We
have
to
spend
seven
million
dollars
in
two
years
and
that
will
be
spent.
F
F
M
G
G
G
Can
address
Council
Warwick's
concern?
One
of
the
challenges
with
the
land
bank
is
by
state
law.
The
minute
the
land
bank
acquires
a
property.
We
have
to
maintain
right
and
stabilize
such
property.
We
have
to
cut
the
grass
we
have
to
remove
the
snow.
We
have
to
board
it
up
if
that's
what's
necessary,
so
the
land
bank
will
not
take
on
property
that
we
don't
know
that
we
can
sell
on
the
back
end
right.
G
D
M
To
do
that,
I
got
it
I
get
it
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it's
that
part
of
money
using
to
stabilize
homes,
which
we
could
spend
very
quickly
like
that.
If
you
know
we
make
the
bad
just
any
bad
decisions
on
what
to
stabilize
and
what
not
to
so,
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting
process.
This
right
here
is
a
list
of
every
city
learned
a
lot
in
my
district,
okay
at
councilwoman,
gross's
persuasion
on
a
project-
that's
not
related
to
this
believe
it
or
not.
M
We
wanted
to
know
every
so
I
had
an
intern,
and
some
of
my
staff
for
four
months
look
up
every
single
lot
that
the
city
owned
and
here's
what
we
found
and
first
of
all,
I,
never
know
what's
owned
by
the
city
and,
what's
not,
we
drive
by
people,
get
complain
about
the
place
next
door?
I!
Don't
do
that
research
for
them,
I,
I,
I,
don't
know
who
owns
it
a
lot
of
times
that
they
do
so
what
I
found
was.
This
is
1400
almost
1500
city-owned
Lots
in
my
district.
M
What
we
found
was
a
good
majority
of
those
are
kind
of
like
can
never
build
on
they're,
just
just
spaces
that
you
really
can't
build
on,
maybe
if
it
were
Lawrenceville
that
would
find
a
way
to
build
on
it,
but
not
not
in
my
district,
it's
just
like
on
the
side
of
Hills
that
you
just
can't
build
on,
and
so
so
I
would
suggest
this.
We
have,
it
just
sounds
bad.
M
We
have
17
000
vacant
lots
I'm,
telling
you
right
now
of
these
1500
in
my
district
I'm
sure
I
could
clean
up
four
or
500
of
them
that
are
not
buildable
and
we
just
incorporate
them.
A
lot
of
these
are
joined
to
our
Greenways.
This
is
making
part
of
the
greenway
right,
get
them
off
our
list,
they're,
not
an
abandoned
or
a
property
that
the
city
is
neglecting
or
owning.
So
so
I
was
really
shocked
to
find
that
out
that
you
know
it's
really
not
a
matter
of
just
all.
These
abandoned
lots
of
people
left.
M
Maybe
my
District's
different
I
understand
the
differences
in
every
District.
Another
thing,
I
found
was
very
few
City
own
properties,
with
structures
on
them.
In
my
district,
very
few
I
can't
in
fact
only
a
handful
believe
it
or
not,
so
the
one
I
have
scheduled
to
demo,
because
it's
just
no
questions
about
it.
M
It's
got
to
come
down
on
Broadway,
but
but
there's
very
few
city-owned
houses
in
my
district
that
are
just
sitting
there,
City
owned
whether
we
acquired
it
through
you
know,
taxes
or,
however,
we
got
them
so
so
that
too,
is
not
a
big
burdensome
in
my
district
anyway.
So
there
are
some
structures,
I'm
sure,
but
I
can't
tell
you
which
ones
they
are,
but
here's
what
I
really
want
to
talk
to
you
about
here's,
here's
really
what
I
wanted
to
give
to
one
of
whether
it
be
the
Ura
I.
Don't
think!
M
D
M
Have
one
in
my
district
people
have
been
calling
for
two
years,
the
weeds
are
growing
and
you
know
it's
privately
owned.
The
fellow
who
lived
there
died,
unfortunately,
no
heirs,
nobody
to
take
care
of
the
property.
Of
course
it's
going
back
on
taxes,
there's
nobody
to
pay
for
the
property
tax
and
whatever
else
involved
there.
So
what
happens?
What
Avenue
can
I
take.
C
C
We
have
arpa
because
that
actually
gave
us
a
little
bit
of
a
leg
up,
but
prior
to
that,
we
had
like
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
maintain
14
000
properties,
which
is
not
happening
so,
but
in
the
future.
If
we
have
these
other
pipelines
that
we
can
start
to
move
properties
through,
then
we
can
take
properties
like
that
into
City
inventory,
with
the
hopes
of
selling
it
to
a
neighbor
or
someone
else.
That
wants
to
do
something
with
it.
M
M
Okay,
so
so
again,
it's
not
City
structures
on
my
properties,
it's
not
properties
that
are
just
sitting
there.
That
could
be
built
on.
My
biggest
issue
is
dead.
End
properties,
I,
don't
know
where
the
owner
is.
We
don't
know
we
we
we
find
them,
we
send
them
notice,
but
Jennifer.
Let
me
just
tell
you
what
I
did
in
my
own
personal
life,
which
I
felt
was
very
effective
and
I
was
going
to
say
to
the
land
bank
if
they
were
here
today.
This
is
what
I'd
like
you
to
do.
M
Okay
same
way,
property
across
the
street
from
me,
I
was
like
what
who
owns
this
property?
Nobody,
nothing
there
for
years,
looked
into
it
and
it
was
really
simple.
You
have
to
be
willing
to
do
a
little
homework
and
you
have
to
be
willing-
and
you
probably
have
done.
This
is
probably
what
you're,
referring
to
so
I
paid
an
attorney
five
thousand
dollars
to
get
it
where
they
put
notice
out
there
any
errors
to
this
property.
You
need
to
come
forth
or
it's
going
to
be
put
up
for
sale.
G
M
M
To
Sheriff
sale,
both
people
outbid
what
I
was
willing
to
pay
for
it,
and
then
it
fell
into
their
hands
now.
I,
so
I
put
it
on
a
tax
roll
just
simply
by
paying
an
attorney
five
thousand
dollars
to
take
the
necessary
steps.
Now,
I
get
it.
We
don't
want
to
end
up
with
fourteen
thousand
properties,
but
the
way
it
was
set
was
an
upset
cost,
meaning
what.
G
M
On
taxes,
what
you
own
utilities
and
that's
what
the
bidding
starts
at
I-
think
one
particular
property,
Was
Eighteen
thousand
dollars
right
right.
We
started
eighteen
thousand
dollars,
a
guy
went
to
forty
some
thousand.
It
was
too
rich
for
my
blood,
so
I
backed
out,
but
the
bottom
line
is
it's:
it's
on
I
got
refunded
as
soon
as
he
purchased
the
property
I
got
refunded
my
money
and
those
what
everything's
good.
We
got
it
back
on
the
tax
roll.
Why
can't
we
do
that?
Why
can't
the
lane
I
was
hoping.
M
M
M
To
me,
it's
like
it's
on
the
market,
we're
we're
about,
and
I
yeah.
We
want
to
identify
places
for
affordable
housing.
We
want
to
do
that,
but
we
most
of
all
we
want
to
get
them
back
on
the
tax
roll
and
we
don't
want
the
people
next
to
them,
complaining
that
the
grass
is
six
feet
tall
tall
and
there's
squatters
in
there.
So
to
me,
like
I,
almost
want
to
do
it
myself.
You
know
because
I
know
I'm
going
to
get
reimbursed,
but
I
don't
want
to
go
through
the
homework.
I
was
hoping.
M
B
B
M
All
contiguous,
so
let
me
ask
you
this
Jennifer
so
saying
how
I
put
these
two
properties
on
the
market
right.
Otherwise
they
would
have
just
sat
there
for
years.
How
did
what
happens
at
a
dead-end
property?
Do
they
just
sit
there
for
multiple
multiple
year
years
and
it
eventually,
if,
if
we're,
not
proactive
and
putting
it
on
the
market
ourselves
by
paying
an
attorney
or
I,
was
hoping
to
do
it
in-house.
H
H
Once
you
know
about
eight
years
ago,
they
stopped
doing
that
process.
That's
where
we
kind
of
ended
up
with
this
problem,
but
you
were
correct,
like
we
are
better
off
doing
it,
then
than
in
some
time
when
it
falls
into
our
hands,
because
at
that
point
it's
going
to
be,
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
demolition
project
and.
M
Issue
you're
so
right
take
it
from
me
a
general
contractor
this
particular
house
I'm
talking
about
it,
was
on
the
news
last
week
about
it,
because
all
the
neighbors
are
complaining
and
I
told
them.
It's
not
our
property.
It's
really
not
a
responsibility,
but
you
know
be
it
as
it
may.
We
we
got
it
cleaned
up
and
you
know
gutters
were
falling
off,
because
this
is
such
a
beautiful
home
in
a
beautiful
neighborhood.
M
I
personally
went
up
there
and
re-hung
the
gutters,
because
I
know
that
place
is
dilapidating
by
the
day
with
that
water
running
down
the
fascia
board
and
into
the
house
so
I'm,
like
maybe
I'll,
buy
I,
don't
know,
but
but
I
thought
somebody
just
to
keep
it.
You
know
sellable
so
so
yeah.
So
so
we
don't
do
that.
We
don't
aggressively,
go
after
a
property
and
say
look
we're
gonna
put
whether
it's
our
attorney
or
an
outside
attorney.
M
M
Attack
and
and
to
what
you
said
before,
Jennifer,
we
don't
want
to
accumulate
thousands
and
thousands
of
more
properties,
but
this
is
just
to
get
it
on
the
market
and
once
it's
on
the
market,
the
upset
cost
usually
back
taxes
and
utilities,
whatever
they
own
PA
American
Water,
whatever
it's
it's
cheap
and
if
we
had
to
acquire
that's
great,
then
we
take
that
7
million
and
that
that's
nothing,
that's
that's
increases
our
coffers.
Okay,
we
could
then
sell
that
property.
One
of
the
one
of
you
could
sell
that
property.
C
M
Like
that,
let
me
tell
you
so
at
a
for-profit
cost:
I
would
think
I
mean
it's
so
if
they
end
up
in
our
Pro
in
our
lab.
That's
good!
That's
a
good
thing,
especially
these
ones
that
have
no
claim
have
no
no
owners,
because
usually
that
cost
is
much
less
than
the
actual
value
of
the
property.
If
it's,
if
it's
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
in
taxes
and
we
walk
away
from
it,
we
don't
want
anything
to
do
with
it.
M
Somebody
else's
problem,
I
guess
so:
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
would
love
to
pursue
this
one
property
I!
Think
it's
a
prime
example.
We
can
get
this
thing
on
the
market
like
that.
I've
done
it
myself.
So
it's
easy,
I
was
thinking
and
hoping
the
land
bank
would
take
that
role,
but
you
can
direct
me
whether
I
go
through
you
Jennifer
or
the
land
bank.
Just
tell
me
who
to
go
to
because.
B
M
C
So
seeing
that
I'm,
the
treasurer
so
Treasurer
sale
only
applies
to
Municipal
liens,
so
we
don't
deal
with
like
construction
liens.
We
don't
deal
with
other
tax
liens
from
other
municipalities.
It's
only
city,
city,
liens,
demolition,
clean
and
lean
water.
Anything
of
that
nature
there
could
be
other
liens
or
attachments
on
the
property
and
we,
but
we
can't
quiet
those.
We
don't
deal
with
those.
But
if
you
go
to
the
sheriff
sale
that
that's
where
those
other
liens
can
be
added
to
the
upset
price.
G
Sorry,
the
other
benefit
of
the
land
bank.
The
landmate
can
utilize
Sheriff
sale
in
that
share
sale.
You
have
all
your
liens
removed
right
as
well
as
the
land
bank
can
come
in
and
doesn't
get
outbid.
The
land
bank
has
the
ability
to
come
in
and
say
we
actually
want
to
these
12
properties
here
and
it
will
go
to
the
land
bank.
So
that's
the
other
benefit
of
it
that
we
can.
You
could
do
what
you're
doing
with
those
so.
G
F
M
Okay,
of
course,
I'm
going
to
support
the
bill.
Everybody
seems
to
think
it's
a
great
thing:
it'll
free
to
land
bank
up
to
do
whatever
they
need
to
do
I'm.
All
for
that,
but
I'm,
just
looking,
every
district
is
different.
That's
why
I'm
stressing
for
me
it's
not
about
vacant
structures.
It's
not
about
empty
lots!
It's
about
dead-end
properties
and
I,
know
I!
M
Think
the
train
of
thought
would
be
with,
amongst
all
of
you
would
be
focused
on
the
city
city,
property
City
owned
inventory,
but
this
is
the
same
thing:
you're
getting
it
back
on
the
tax
return.
It's
not
paying
spending
you're,
not
spending
any
money,
you're
getting
refunded
if,
if
it
doesn't
end
up
with
us,
so
I
would
like
to
pursue
that
I'd
like
that
commitment
from
somebody
and
be
like.
M
Let's
look
at
it
and
let's
get
this
property
this
one
in
particular
moving
I
would
say
in
my
district:
it's
more
dead-end
properties
than
it
is
people
complaining
about
us,
empty
structure
or
just
a
vacant
lot.
That's
over
weeded,
so
so
so
yeah
I'll
be
in
support
just
looking
for
some
some
direction
there
yeah.
So
so
that's
it
Madam
chair.
Thank
you.
G
But
I
was
what
I
will
try
to
do
is
very
briefly
try
to
speak
to
the
actual
intent
of
the
bill
itself,
because
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
stuff,
not
necessarily
the
actual
resolution
that
we're
here
for
so
as
I
understand
it,
and
this
is
sort
of
mattification
the
Public's.
The
intent
here
is
to
amend
to
instruct
the
administration
to
bring
forth
an
amendment
to
the
trial
party
agreement
that
allows
for
the
city
to
actually
be
able
to
move
land
into
the
land
bank
correct.
G
It's
really
that
simple,
correct.
Okay.
Now,
once
that
happens
just
for
members,
it's
my
expectation
that
a
number
of
things
could
happen.
You
looking
at
your
list
of
1400
could
say:
hey
I
really
want
these
12
to
be
permanent,
Greenway
right
and
you
could
instruct
the
city
to
move
legislatively,
instruct
the
city
to
move
property
into
the
land
bank.
Once
you
do
that
this
body
will
still
have
to
approve
that
transfer
of
property
into
the
land
bank.
The
administration
could
also
say
hey
as
part
of
the
Bedford
Hill
Redevelopment.
G
We
think
it'd
be
important
to
move
these
six
that
could
be
home,
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities
that
will
complement.
Another
development
comes
through,
Council
goes
into
the
land
bank
and
we
know
what
the
intent
on
the
end
user
is
and
as
well
as
cdcs
could
also
come
and
say
hey.
These
have
been
sitting
here
for
a
very
long
time,
we'd
like
to
move
these
to
councilwoman
strasberger's
Point.
Does
it
occur
overnight?
No,
but
it
isn't
does
it
is
more
expeditions
than
any
other
process.
Yes,.
G
G
I
G
That's
the
intent
around
all
of
this
to
some
of
the
council
persons
concern
about
the
property.
On
the
back
end,
the
land
bank
has
adopted
policies
and
procedures
that
sort
of
specifies
here's,
how
we're
prioritizing
the
end
user
for
this,
so
low
income,
affordable
home
ownership,
someone
else
who's
already
a
homeowner
Greenway
that
sort
of
thing,
and
in
addition
to
that,
there's
a
built-in
public
process
that
the
land
bank
has
to
go
through.
It
has
to
provide
public
notice
anytime.
It
requires
property
it
has
to
meet
with
the
planning
department.
G
Is
this
in
line
with
a
registered
community
plan?
They
has
to
receive
Community
input
that,
yes,
this
is
what
we
want
to
see
happen.
So
there
are
all
those
things
that
are
sort
of
built
in
as
well
as
should
the
land
bank
actually
then
say
we're
going
to
we're
selling
here,
there's
also
an
appeal
process
that
I
think
is
maybe
three
parts
that
where
you
can
then
actually
appeal
that
decision
of
the
land
bank
board,
so
there's
just
a
lot
sort
of
built
in
so
that
you're
not
ending
up
in
a
bad
result.
G
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
thank
you,
councilwoman
gross
for
all
the
work
you
did
on
this
and
mine
is
more
a
few
comments.
First
I'm
going
to
make
I
know
councilman
Wilson
likes
being
on
the
land
bank.
I
can't
wait
to
put
myself
back
on
the
land
bank,
so
I
can
have
a
say
too,
because
I
actually
put
him
on
my
where
my
seat
was
and
that's
how
he's
on
there
I
wouldn't
really
do
that.
E
But
I'm
just
saying
I
think
that
it's
it's
a
conversation,
the
reason
I
care
so
much
is
because
I
was
on
the
land
bank,
because
we
have
so
many
par
properties
in
our
district
and
I
loved.
What
councilman
work
had
to
say
that
you
know
she's
worried
about
what
happens
down
the
road
and
down
the
line
and
she's
worried
about
what
council's
voice
will
be
and
I
mean
honestly
I'm
thinking
right
about
now.
You
sound
like
the
one
that
should
be
present
next
year,
because
you
actually
care
about
Council.
E
It's
good
to
hear
somebody
speak
up
for
counsel
and
and
to
speak
up
because
I
tell
people
all
the
time.
Counsel's
voice
is
the
voice
of
the
public
and
without
our
voice,
then
the
public
is
losing
their
voice
and
you
can
tell
them
through
Community
groups
that
they're
going
to
have
a
say
you
can
tell
them
they're
going
to
be
able
to
acquire
property
and
tell
them
all
that
stuff,
but
the
bottom
line
is
our
voice
has
to
be
a
voice
of
the
public.
E
That's
heard
so
with
that
said,
I
just
want
to
go
a
couple
of
things:
can
the
land
bank
meet
its
obligations
in
terms
of
housing
without
the
land
bank?
How
can
the
Ura
meet
its
objectives
of
using
the
land?
The
land
bank
so
aggressively
with
by
taking
without
aggressively,
take
properties
for
affordable
housing,
work
and
things
that
you
want
to
do?
Do
you
need
the
land
bank?
Do
you
need
the
land
bank
to
do
what
you
want
to.
F
Do
I
think
we
talked
about
it
earlier.
The
land
bank
offers
some
comparative
advantages
for
specific
uses
that
right
now,
through
the
city
or
through
the
Ura,
we
aren't
as
well
positioned
so
I
I
guess
the
way
I'd
answer,
it
is
to
say
we
can
be
more
effective,
related
to
making
opportunities
for
affordable
home
ownership
available
or
smaller
scale
projects
with
the
land
bank.
F
Certainly
than
can
we
can
be
without
it,
because
we
can't
facilitate
those
projects
very
well
through
the
city
because
of
the
properties
having
to
go
to
the
highest
bidder
and
for
the
reasons
of
you
know
the
uras,
adherence
to
State,
Redevelopment
law
and
our
disposition
process.
You
know
it's
hard
for
a
single
family
to
come
forth
and
say:
oh,
we
want
to
buy
this
home
and
be,
and
have
it
be
our
you
know
our
home
our
residents
and
have
to
go
through
that
process.
F
E
F
F
E
Think
it's
like
yeah,
the
Lomo
or
the
grass
that
doesn't
grow
very
high
or
some
kind
of
coverage
cover
that
absorbs
water
better
or
something
that's
better
for
the
environment
better
for
having
for
the
for
the
bottom
dollar
that
we're
not
constantly
cleaning
it
up.
I've
seen
nothing
happen
with
that,
and
we've
put
we've
put
through
legislation:
we've
done
all
sorts
of
things,
nothing
I,
so
I
really
feel
like
the
city
could
clean
up
the
properties.
They
don't
care
to.
That's
what
I
feel
for
not
just
any
one
Administration
would
be
clear.
E
F
I'd
have
to
check
on
what
our
grass
spec
is
right
now
from
from
demos
and
follow
up
with
you
to
see
where
it's
at
and
what
ability
we
have
to
adjust
that
I
thought
there
was
a
Nomo
spec
in
there
I
think
part
of
the
the
the
problem
ends
up
becoming
when
it's
seated.
You
know,
there's
really
only
certain
times
of
year
that
grass
really
takes
hold
and
we're
doing
demos
all
year
round
right
so
yeah.
F
D
E
C
You
want
to
talk
for
sure,
but
in
that
landcare
program,
there's
only
about
3
000
properties
that
were
servicing
continually
and
they're,
mostly
properties
that
should
be
in
well-trafficed
areas
and
those
properties
that
are
on
their
way
to
schools,
so
that
they're
in
safe
school
zones,
in
which
case,
but
that
costs
us
literally
1.5
million
dollars
a
year
for
3
000
properties
and
they
usually
get
cycled
through,
maybe
twice
a
month
during
the
high
growing
period.
So
in
order
to
maintain
like
fourteen
thousand,
we
need
quite
a
lot
more
money.
C
E
E
E
So
I'm
always
going
to
be
cautious,
I'm,
never
going
to
just
trust
blindly
about
you
know
anybody
trying
to
take
control
of
the
land.
I.
Remember
one
time
this
woman
in
Ferry
would
she
was
actually
friends
with
your
pastor.
I
can't
think
of
his
name,
Miss
Nixon.
She
used
to
always
say
it's.
The
land
use
issue
honey,
it's
the
land
use,
they
want
the
land
and
I
mean
that's
since
I've
been
here.
E
E
People
have
a
voice
in
their
neighborhoods
and
in
their
communities
and
I
want
to
see
poor
people
have
the
opportunity
to
be
lifted
up
and
to
invest
in
their
own
neighborhoods.
So
I
think
that
there's
a
way
to
do
all
those
things.
If
there's
a
will
and
I
I
do
think
this
mayor
wants
to
see
more
of
that
I
think
I
I
think
I'm
right
about
that.
E
But
over
this
past
month
I've
been
talking
to
you
about
some
of
the
things.
I
was
angry
about
in
my
district
and
what
happened
with
properties
in
my
district
and
it
came
through
the
land
bank,
and
so
it
was
the
very
first
property
you
had
came
through
a
CDC
that
I
took
it
from
in
the
first
place
and
six
six
years
ago,
I
took
it
off.
It
was
a
property
that
was
going
for
sale
through
the
Ura
or
through
the
real
estate.
E
I
can't
remember
everything
might
have
been
real
estate,
but
it
was
going
to
a
CDC
and
the
community
told
me
it
was
going
to
be
sold
to
a
developer
that
was
on
their
board
no
federal
990s.
None
of
those
things
were
happening,
so
I
pulled
the
property
and
for
six
years,
I
held
the
property,
and,
six
years
later,
with
the
help
of
the
land
bank,
it
went
back
to
the
same
same
group.
E
Now
it's
going
to
have
a
different
use,
but
there's
also
nearby
some
of
the
same
uses
that
we're
proposing
that
that
are
proposed
that
are
both
in
like
just
a
walking
feet,
walking
distance.
So
if
I
am
skeptical,
it's
because
I
feel,
like
you
want
to
take
our
voice
away
for
what
our
community
wants,
so
that
you
can
do
what
you
want
and
I
don't
I,
don't
know
that
what
you
want
to
do
is
bad
I'm.
E
Just
saying
I
think
I
want
to
make
sure
my
public
and
my
community
has
a
voice
in
this
and
a
say
in
it,
and
what
I
don't
like
is
the
way
the
whole
process
comes
out.
It's
like
with
it
was
to
me.
It
was
the
same.
We,
the
city,
always
does
if
they
come
to
city
council
and
they
try
to
be
strategic
on
how
they're
going
to
get
something
through
US.
Instead
of
talking
to
us
and
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
times.
E
What
happens
is
when
you're
trying
to
be
strategic
that
makes
us
guarded
because
now
we
want
to
know
why
you
just
didn't,
have
a
conversation
with
us
and
so
for
me,
when
you
send
members
in
to
do
things
when
you
send
people
in
to
speak.
One
of
the
things
the
unions
learned
about
me
years
ago
and
I
can
tell
you
that
they
know
this.
E
Don't
come
down
here
and
think
you're
going
to
intimidate
me
and
have
speakers
come
to
the
podium
because
I
know
who
my
community
is
saying
what
I
know
what
they're
doing
I
know
what
how
they
really
feel
about
things
you're,
never
going
to
just
come
down
here
and
do
that
kind
of
stuff.
To
me,
it's
never
going
to
work
a
matter
of
fact
it
backfires.
So
they
do
know
this
I
would
say
to
you.
E
I
would
hope
that
you
would
have
a
conversation
with
me
about
it
and
not
necessarily
go
through
all
these
other
hoops
and
other
game
playing
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
because
you
know
we
can
do
the
same
thing.
I
have
concern.
My
concerns
are
valid
because
we
had
a
lot
of
concerns
and
a
lot
of
issues
around
land
in
my
district
and
my
community
feels
very
disenfranchised
from
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
E
E
We
shouldn't
have
some.
You
know
conversations
before
we
get
to
this
point
before
we
get
to
the
point
that
you're
coming
to
the
table
when
having
having
a
public
conversation
about
why
I'm
so
guarded
for
my
district,
but
I'm
going
to
be
guarded
for
them
always
so
with
that
said,
that's
all
I
want
to
say
that's
it.
You
be
happy
with
that,
because
I
have
to
schedule
the
public
hearing
to
make
this
vote
happen
and
when
you
do
play
games
like
that,
it
makes
me
want
to
hold
it
10
times
longer.
F
F
Projects
to
talk
about
those
you
know
happy
to
talk
about
other
concerns.
You
know
whether
it's
specific
to
this
agreement
or
otherwise
in
the
way
in
which
the
process
goes
I
mean
I,
do
think
you
know.
Councilmember
Lavelle
talked
about
the
prioritization
that
the
land
bank
has
set
for
itself
and
the
way
they
want
to
dispose
of
the
properties
and
they
are
prioritizing
low-income,
homeowners,
right
or
or
owner
occupants
that
live
within
the
community.
F
E
In
that
way,
I
think
doing
I
think
making
having
conversations
and
making
it
more
public
I.
Think
it's
very
right,
but
I
do
think
that
there
are
times
when
we
should
all
be
talking
a
little
bit
more
than
we
do
and
I
think
that
in
communicating
a
little
bit
better
than
what
we
do,
we
did
have
some
meetings
scheduled.
E
We
don't
have
those
as
often
you
and
I
do
have
something
coming
up
and
I
do
meet
with
Jake
Pollock
director
Paula
once
a
week,
and
he
and
I
have
a
really
good
I
mean
we're
really
good
working
together.
But
what
I
think
is
that
when
there's
some
issues
like
this,
that
you'd
like
hey,
this
is
where
we
are.
This
is
what
we
want,
but
I
feel
like.
E
A
A
So
for
kind
of
rhetorical
purposes.
We
we
have
a
a.
We
do
have
a
tri-party
agreement
that
we've
been
operating
under
since
2019,
that
is
in
legistar,
and
the
amendment
or
the
resolution
last
year
was
requesting
amendments
to
it.
So,
if
I
put
a
new
paper
on
the
table
next
week,
transferring
five
properties
to
the
land
bank
for
affordable
housing,
for
example,
as
we
were
talking
about
what
would
happen,
I'll
start
with
director
Gula.
What
happens.
A
A
We've
been
kind
of
educated
here
at
the
table
today
that
the
land
bank
can't,
actually,
we
can't
tell
it
who
to
sell
the
property
to,
but
that
we
can
kind
of
give
it
up
the
transfer
properties
for
a
purpose
right,
like
a
policy,
a
public
policy
purpose,
as
other
members
have
asked
about
today,
like
we
need
affordable
housing.
We
have
this
property.
Let's
send
these
five
Parcels
over
to
the
land
bank
for
affordable
housing.
Just.
G
G
A
G
Yes,
after
a
series
of
qualified
I'm,
sorry
I,
don't
have
my
apology,
but
there's
a
series
of
qualifications:
are
they
in
good
standing
with
their
taxes
like
all
this
sort
of
stuff?
Is
there,
and
so
they
become
a
qualified
buyer?
So
we
actually
have
to
qualify
the
the
purchaser
and,
assuming
all
that
goes
well.
We
can
continue
to
proceed
but
again,
there's
still
a
public
process,
so
we
have
to
notify.
The
public
of
this
is
the
intent
someone
could
come
and
object
to
that
if
they
wanted
to.
A
We
could
move
with
the
intent
to
sell
it
to
them.
Rhetorically
hypothetically
I
only
have
five
Treasurer
cell
properties
in
my
whole
District
right
actually
I've
had
others
that
have
transferred
to
the
greenway,
but
let's
say
I
have
five,
and
every
single
one
is
surrounded
by
communities
that
are
wanted
to
it's
absolutely
unanimous,
there's
Community
consensus
that
these
five
Parcels
should
only
be
used
that
are
vacant.
Parcels
shall
be
used
for
affordable
housing.
A
The
first,
the
general
director
Gula,
can
chop
chop,
send
it
over
to
you
what,
in
two
weeks,
okay,
so
then
boom
the
land
bank
has
it
in
two
weeks,
which
is
a
lot
faster
than
the
flow
chart
that's
been
proposed.
Actually
so
that
actually
is
the
most
expeditious
way
for
property
to
move
from.
The
city's
inventory
to
the
land
bank
is
by
Council.
A
Resolution
seems
like
to
me
seems
like
everybody
kind
of
just
agreed
to
that,
but
it
also
depends
on
whether
Land
Bank,
you
know,
wants
to
receive
that
property
or
is
ready
for
it
and
is
funded
to
do
it,
but
we
could
start
next
week.
I
probably
do
have
five
Parcels.
That
I
would
like
to
be
disposed
for,
affordable
housing
on
only
affordable
housing,
and
so
similarly,
if
there
are,
you
know
City
Farmers,
whose
are
farming
on
Parcels
that
they
have
leases
from
the
city,
but
they're
still
tax.
A
Could
I
send
five
of
those
over
to
our
city
council
to
vote
to
send
five
of
those
over
to
the
land
bank
next
beginning
next
week,
but
the
land
bank.
Similarly,
then,
would
clear
the
titles
but
may
or
may
not
actually
sell
it
to
that
farmer.
Who's
been
farming
on
that
piece
of
property
for
eight
years.
G
Mean
technically,
yes,
I
think
if
this
body
said
to
the
land
bank
we're
looking
to
move
property
to
protect
the
this
Farm
I,
don't
see
us
I'm.
Speaking
for
myself,
I,
don't
see
a
scenario
in
which
case
the
land
bank
would
receive
such
property
work
to
clear
title
and
then
choose
to
do
something
separate
with
it.
A
Can
we
get
a
a
legal
agreement
in
place
that
would
make
sure
of
that,
because
this
proposed
agreement
does
not
make
sure
of
that
we're
kind
of
just
leaving
it
up
to
like
future
Land
Bank
board,
who
may
or
may
not
May
hate,
Farms,
I,
know
I,
don't
know
right,
May
hate,
affordable
housing.
We
don't
know
who
they're
going
to
be
so
it's
it's,
not
it's
not
memorialized
in
the
agreement,
but
it
could
be.
A
So
that's.
That's
that's
a
question,
but
again
we
don't
want
to.
Maybe
we
can
contemplate
when
we
discuss
at
another
time,
but
I
think
that's
that's
one
point
and
then
similarly
thank
you
solicitor
Kubiak
for
talking
about
deed
restrictions.
As
you
know,
I've
been
lobbying
for
this.
For
some
time
in
2020,
I
passed
legislation,
city
council
supported
legislation
that
I
sponsored
that
said,
asking
the
city
departments
to
look
through
this
whole
inventory
of
treasure,
sale,
Deeds
to
identify
properties
that
would
be
conducive
to
Urban,
Ag
and
deed,
restrict
him
for
that
purpose.
A
It
hasn't
happened
yet
I'm
really
hopeful,
it
will
happen,
and
we
know
that
there
has
been
the
food
policy
Council
and
my
member
of
my
office
and
the
planning
department
have
been
working
on
with
our
GIS
department
and
going
through
Parcels
by
like
shade
by
topography,
Landslide
prone
those
kinds
of
things,
looking
first
flights
that
will
be
optimal
and
don't
really
need
to
be
used
for
development
right.
We
can't
it's
not
like.
A
A
We've
also
heard
testimony
today
and
I've,
actually
sidebarred
a
little
bit
with
councilman
Lavelle,
that
this
current
memo,
supposedly
as
we've
learned
even
under
the
current
memo
city
council,
could
send
properties
to
the
loan
bank
next
week.
So
we've
all
established
it.
That's
true
right.
So
it's
true
that
we
can.
The
city
can't
send
properties
to
the
land
bank
under
the
current
agreement,
and
so
how
many,
but
the
the
new
proposed
agreement
kind
of
lays
out
a
path
for
the
land
bank
to
specifically
request
specific
Parcels,
which
is
a
different
thing.
A
That
is
what
is
new
ly
proposed
so
again,
because
it's
supposedly
difficult
it
would
be
too
hard
under
the
current
agreement,
and
this
is
purely
being
Socratic
here,
because
I
actually
know
the
answer.
How
many
properties
did
have
the
land
bank
requested
from
City
Finance
under
the
current
agreement?
A
None
yeah
so,
and
so
there's
a
bit
of
kind
of
a
I
think
we
may
be
arguing
over
kind
of
hypotheticals
right
a
little
bit
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
want
to
be
you
know.
People's
I
I
would
just
hope
that
we
don't
all
just
dig
in
our
heels,
about
trying
to
have
some
perfect
method
when
we
actually
have
multiple
methods
available
in
front
of
us
it.
Also
in
today's
testimony
we
heard
that
the
land
bank
basically
will
only
take
properties
that
it
can
sell.
E
G
A
A
G
She
so
it
does
say
that
we
can
also
take
for
agriculture.
Take
for
Greenways,
like
all
that
is
spelled
out.
My
point
was
I
think
was
the
councilman
Cog
Hill
was
that
if
we're
taking
property
physical
property,
not
just
land
but
actually
brick
and
mortar,
there's
no
interest
in
us
taking
that,
because
I
believe
we
can
only
hold
it
for
I.
Think
three
years,
I
think
it's
the
maximum.
We
can
even
hold
it
for
so
we're
only.
We
would
be
looking
to
acquire
physical
structures
that
we
could
then
sell
right.
A
L
A
So
let's
say
we,
we
send
the
garden
to
or
Community
Farm
to
be
title
cleared
by
the
land
bank.
The
land
bank
board
votes
to
dispose
of
it
to
the
firmware,
that's
been
tending
it
to
eight
years.
Does
the
Ura
and
Exhibit
C
have
the
power
to
intervene
on
that
sale
because
they've
decided
a
developer?
Wants
it?
G
G
M
G
G
A
Think
it
was
handed
to
us
in
our
in
our
March
briefing,
it
was
the
The
First
Agreement
was
given
to
us
in
the
the
November
December
briefing
without
Exhibit
C,
so
we
were
specifically
requested
the
exhibits
to
the
proposed
agreement
and
that
turned
out
to
be
the
February
2022
site
agreement.
That's
not
a
trade
party
agreement,
it's
just
a
two-party
agreement,
so
the
land
bank
and
Theory
have
a
current
two-party
agreement.
A
D
A
F
H
E
E
A
J
D
J
There
was
a
situation
in
where
there
there's
a
large
piece
of
land
on
Second
Avenue
and
the
historic
Hazelwood
business
district,
and
it
was
abundantly
clear
that
the
that
the
community
wanted
a
grocery
store
on
this
property.
I
mean
we
had
meeting
after
meeting
after
meeting,
and
it
was
it's
in
the
greater
Hazelwood
plan.
I
mean
this.
J
J
They
didn't
even
inquire,
not
not
nobody
at
the
Ura
even
made
a
phone
call
to
Aldi
to
see
and
then
Aldi
actually
entered
into
building
a
grocery
store,
very
close
by
so
I
mean
now
that,
and
and
now
the
community
is
actually
working
to
do
a
grocery
store
on
a
much
inferior
piece
of
property
across
the
street
right,
the
the
original
piece
would
have
been
a
far
better
property.
At
any
rate,
that's
just
to
say
that
you
know:
had
there
been
a
you
know,
had
there
been
a
vote
at
Council
about
what
to
do?
J
You
know
what
I
mean
about
what
happens
with
that
property
and,
and
then
you
know
somebody
there
representing
the
people
that
could
have
said
and
then
come
to
this
body
and
said.
Look
this
really
is
what
the
community
wants
done
here
or
or
this
really
isn't.
The
community
really
doesn't
want
this.
You
know
not
to
say
that
it
has
to
be
that,
but
it,
but
they
really
don't
want
this
I
mean
it's
all,
just
to
say
that
that
I
I
really
feel
that
that's
important.
We
can't
just
count
on
you
know.
J
You
know
what
the
concept
of
it
really
has
to
be
built
into
the
process.
So
that
leads
me
I
guess
to
like
what
are
the
next
steps
here
so
like
in
this
agreement
are
are?
Are
you
gonna,
go
back
and
sort
of
make
some
changes
based
on
this
conversation,
or
do
we
have
to
introduce
amendment
I
mean
you
know,
and
that
just
sort
of
reveal
show
all
my
cards,
but
do
I
have
to
go
and
like
read
the
minutia
of
this
agreement
and
be
like
with
my
red
pen
like
okay,
this
and
that,
so
what?
F
F
You
know
with
our
folks
with
the
authority
with
you
know
the
land
bank
around
ways
in
which
we
can
be
responsive
to
what
we've
heard
right,
as
that
goes
through
I,
know,
there's
still
a
public
hearing
to
happen
as
well.
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
additional
feedback
that
we
hear
within
that,
but
in
terms
of
building
in
some
of
the
protections
and
then
how
to
still
make
sure
that
we're
setting
it
up
in
a
way
that
allows
it
to
fill
the
need.
F
You
know
within
the
system
that
you
know,
council,
member
gross
started
it
in
terms
of
the
promise
of
the
land
bank.
You
know
I
think
that's
Paramount.
If
we're
going
to
deal
with
the
13
000
properties
that
are
before
us
to
be
able
to
deliver
it
on,
you
know:
affordable
housing,
blight
remediation,
affordable,
commercial,
Etc
and
and
yeah.
It's
always
that
balance
right
between
what
do
we
put
in
with
policy
to
to
be
able
to
still
have
something?
F
F
J
Yeah
I
think
so
I
think
so
I
I
do
sorry
again.
It
feels
very
weird
how
much
folks
don't
want
counseling
able
to
say
who,
who
the
land
bank
is
I
mean?
Does
this
not
feel
weird?
We
approve,
like
everything
that
comes
through
I,
mean
we're
we're
we're
eight
to
zero.
Yes,
on,
like
everything
that
comes
through
here,
I.
J
A
L
C
L
C
Is
a
trade
that
we
charge,
Ura
2200
for
Lots,
five
thousand
dollars
for
buildings,
and
then
they
also
pay
the
cost
of
treasure
sale
and
the
Ura
pays
cost
a
quiet
title.
They
pay
for
their
own
title
report
and
Supply
that
to
us
we
weren't
looking
to
recreate
the
wheel
right.
We
wanted
to
I
did
for
one,
so
we
thought
we
would
do
and
mimic
the
exact
same
for
the
other
entity.
So
currently
the
property
Reserve
pays
a
hundred
dollars
for
lots
and
a
thousand
dollars
for
buildings
for
structures
plus
costs.
C
I.
Don't
think
that
if
we
were
looking
to
change
the
price
I,
don't
think
that's
a
structure
like
that
would
be
unreasonable
to
give
to
the
land
bank
seeing
that
cdcs
who
they
probably
would
be
in
contact
with
most
that's
what
they're
used
to
paying.
But
it
can't
go
to
zero
because
we've
the
three
taxing
bodies,
not
just
the
city
but
the
city,
the
school
district
and
the
county-
have
already
expended
fees
to
put
the
properties
into
treasure,
sale
and
also
we've
accumulated
holding
costs.
J
K
K
Other
small
municipalities
don't
do
it
that
way,
but
we
do
and
so
what
happens
when
we
get
the
list
of
their
agenda
and
we
see
something
that
we
know
of
the
communities
disagrees
with
or
that
we
disagree
with.
We
organize
the
community
to
show
up
to
the
zba
hearings
in
protest
and
oftentimes.
That's
successful
and
I
think
that
that
is
still
possible
here.
We
are
delegating
a
responsibility
that
we
might
not
have
the
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
a
perfect
example,
because
I'm
not
actually
sure
we're
delegating
Authority,
but
we
are.
K
We
have
authorized
this
this
this
this
entity
and
they
are,
they
have
a
role
and
something
that
we
are
not
taking
on.
Nor
do
we
have
time
to
take
on
and
I.
Don't
know
why
the
same
couldn't
be
true.
We
have,
we
will
be
notified
when
every
property
is
the
transfer
request
is
is
comes
through.
Counsel
will
have
two
weeks
to
deliberate
to
find
out
what
do
we
think
the
intent
is
here?
Who
do
we
think
the
end?
Buyer
will
be
like
what
is
that?
What
and
to
actually
investigate?
K
And
then,
if
we
want
to
follow
that,
if
there's
Community
concern,
we
can
organize
the
community
to
attend
the
land
bank
meeting
and
you
know
and
and
say
the
community
is
not
satisfied.
Please
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
here,
so
I
I,
that's
one
reason:
I'm
I'm
sort
of
that's
one
of
my
rationale.
Part
of
my
rationale
here.
K
K
It
is
no
quicker
than
the
current
process,
which
is,
you
know,
held
up
by
the
courts.
So
I
guess
those
are
my
two
reasons:
I'm
not
totally
opposed
to
to
the
idea
and
I.
Certainly
you
know
come
around
to
the
idea
of
having
city
council
approval
for
the
property
transfer
request,
but
yeah.
Let's
leave
it
there.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Okay.
So
I
just
want
to
sum
this
up
for,
on
my
end
again,
I
want
you
to
have
all
the
resources
you
need
across
the
city
to
do
whatever
the
situation
is
I
think
I
tried
to
explain.
The
situation
in
my
district
is
quite
different,
I
think
at
least
from
what
I
see
right
now,
not
that
I
don't
have
structures
there
that
need
to
be
tended
to
city-owned
properties.
I
have
the
address.
I
was
going
back
and
forth
with
Sally
and
earlier
I
said.
I
would
support
this
now.
M
I
want
to
stop
short
of
saying
that
I
need
to
know
number
one.
We
can
do
something
simple
like
this.
This
is
a
simple
thing.
It's
no
risk
whatsoever,
maybe
Sally's
willing
to
take
it
on
I
hope
so
Sally,
it's
you
know
we
should
do
this
to
all
dead
end
properties-
it's
just
it
makes
complete
sense.
You
know
we
should
get
this
on
the
market,
otherwise
it
sits
there
until
someday.
It
falls
in
our
hands
by
then
it
needs
to
be
torn
down.
So
that's
really
the
difference.
M
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
the
address.
Sally
I
will
give
it
to
you.
Let's
look
into
it.
Let's
talk
about
it
and
again,
I've
done
this.
I
could
help
coach
you
through
it.
If
need
be
all
right,
the
other
thing
was
the
seven
million
dollars.
Yeah
I'm,
not
convinced,
no
matter
how
much
we
sub
everything
out.
Seven
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money
for
one
staffer
and
one
manager
and
two
whatever
the
process.
How
each
individual
process
is
going
to
cost
a
little
bit
of
money.
M
I
understand
that
I'm
really
concerned
as
to
when
we
say
stabilize
I
know
the
Ura.
Does
that
and
that's
that's
great,
but
the
land
bank
I
feel
like
should
be
in
the
stabilizing
business.
I
understand
trying
to
prepare
it
for
sale,
but
I
I
worry
I've
seen
some
of
the
Ura
transactions
where
people
applied.
You
know
where
we
stabilize
some
properties
I'm
like
we're,
throwing
money
into
this
thing,
and
we
don't
recoup
that
and
krisha
as
to
what
you
were
saying
earlier.
We
we,
this
land
bank
could
be
profitable.
M
If
we
do
it
right,
I
feel
not
cost
us
an
arm
and
leg.
We
have
seven
million
dollars
a
gift
from
the
federal
government,
we're
not
going
to
have
that
in
the
future.
What
about
five
years
from
now,
when
we
burn
through
that
money
or
two
years
from
now?
How
are
they
going
to
sustain
themselves?
How
are
we
going
to
operate
so
they
need
the
funds
they
need
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
I
need
to
know
how
they're
going
to
spend
that
7
million
as
to
is
it
just
on
attorneys?
M
Is
it
stabilizing
property
and
who's
going
to
be
behind?
If
you
tell
me,
one
staffer
and
one
manager
is
going
to
spend
seven
million
dollars,
I,
don't
believe
it
it's
just
it's
a
lot.
It's
hard
work
to
spend
that
kind
of
money.
I
could
do
it,
though,
but
yeah
we'll
see
with
them,
so
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
be
we'll.
M
Dead-End
property
is,
you
can
be
heroes
for
this
for
me
and
for
the
community,
it's
simple,
it's
clear
and
it's
easy
and
there's
nothing
that
should
be
stopping
to
so
I
said
coming
out
of
here
today.
I
will
support
anything.
If
somebody
can
handle
this
for
me
and
it
get
it
moving
all
right,
I
mean
I
can
do
it.
I
can
do
it,
so
we
should
be
able
to
do
that
right.
So
I'm
going
to
give
this
to
you
Sally,
because
I
know
you're
chomping
at
the
bit
to
take
this
right.
Okay,
all
right,
I!
G
G
If
the
city
decided
to
clear
all
title
that
money
would
be
gone
overnight,
but
it
would
like
back
instantly
I
think
I'll
also
try
to
make
sure
I
send
the
policies
and
procedures
to
all
members,
because
I
think
the
concerns
that
have
been
brought
up
are
all
memorialized
in
those
policies
and
procedures.
So
I'll
make
sure
members
get
that
as
well
and
as
I
sit
here.
G
E
E
E
They're
drafted
I
remember
one
of
the
reasons
I
gave
such
a
hard
time
to
the
land
bank.
You
can
sit
back
councilman
Wilson,
one
of
the
reasons
I
had
given
so
much
trouble
to
the
land
bank
when
I
was
on
there
was
they
kept
wanting
Foundation
funding
and
all
this
and
I
wanted
the
public
to
control,
not
private
and
so
I
just
started.
E
It
was
one
other
thing,
I
wanted
to
say:
I
can't
remember
what
it
was,
but
something
about
the
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
funding
and
I
can't
remember
the
other
thing
unless
councilwoman
gross
wrap
it
up,
because
if
I
think
of
it
I'll
tell
you
what
it
was,
but
but
I
do
want
to
say.
I
do
think
that
for
me,
I'm
on
edge
because
of
everything,
that's
going
on
and
I
do
I.
E
Think
that
there's
a
lot
of
good
that
could
come
from
it,
but
I
think
and
I
listened
to
councilman
Laval
and
he
explains
it.
I
mean
he
really
does
explain
it
well,
so,
but
I'm
still
not
still
not
sold,
not
100,
but
I
think
that
we
have
a
lot
of
properties
that
well
I'm.
Still
it's
going
to
live
up
to
question
what
happens
to
a
lot
of
those
personals
and
so
I.