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C
A
A
Thank
you.
Our
next
order.
Business
is
public
comment
and
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
at
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
made
before
city
council
and
profanity
is
not
permitted
once
you
recall,
please
restate
your
name
and
provide
your
neighborhood
for
the
record.
You'll
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
Our
first
registered
speaker
is
Dr
Ronald,
Lynn
Miller.
D
Dr
Ryan
Miller
bill
sewer
I've,
been
educated
at
the
University
of
Oxford
and
the
University
of
Pittsburgh,
among
other
places,
I'm
a
reporter
for
the
global
intelligence,
Information
Network
and
the
one
that
is
also
in
Pittsburgh
I
am
the
gis
candidate
for
president
2024.
Global
intelligence
society.org
is
one
of
our
websites.
What
we
do
is
we
seek
the
optimal
information
and
intelligence
to
solve
social
problems
from
21
primary
disciplines
regarding
Council
concerns.
D
I
favor,
competitive
inequality
achievement
over
description
that
means
equity
in
everything,
including
a
two,
including
choosing
candidates
for
student
admission.
That
means
that
I
approve
of
the
ussc
United
States
Supreme
Court
decision,
29
June
2023
ussc
21199
for
students,
mainly
Asians
for
fair
admissions,
Inc
versus
Harvard.
Second
I
favor
abolishing
the
Pennsylvania
school
code
in
1949.
It's
this
thick
old,
anachronistic
thing
that
legalized
separating
local
pre-university
school
systems
across
the
United
States
from
local
governments.
D
That
applies
to
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
it
is
a
kind
of
law
which
is
characteristic
of
of
the
states
across
the
United
States.
The
government
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
has
no
control
over
the
Pittsburgh
public
school
system.
Ms
Mullen
can
complain
until
doomsday.
You
know
about
the
Pittsburgh
public
school
system
and
appeal
to
you
to
do
something
about
her
problem,
but
you
can't
really
do
anything
about
that
problem
because
you
have
no
control
over
the
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools.
D
Do
you
as
counselors,
not
support
my
move
to
get
the
two
get
to
2024
PA
code,
relinking
local
government
in
schools?
Do
you
not
I'll
take
that
to
be
a
yes,
that
you
do
not
I
favor
inviting
Dr
Daniel
freed
in
here
to
talk
about
his
AI
work
with
Cicero,
of
course,
Ms
gross.
You
know
all
about
that
right,
Ms
gross
I'm
speaking
to
you,
but
she's,
looking
at
her
or
her
device
or
looking
down
because
she
doesn't
want
to
deal
with
this
problem
and
miss
strasberger.
D
You
should
know
about
him:
should
you
not
at
our
Carnegie
Mellon
University
the
strategy
game
diplomacy
with
humans?
You
know
about
that.
If
you
don't
know
about
that,
you
should
know
about
that.
D
Is
it
the
language
Technologies
Institute
at
Carnegie,
Mellon,
University,
fourth
I
in
in
favor
inviting
people
from
the
from
Wuhan,
which
is
the
sister
city
of
of
Pittsburgh
and
zhongwoo,
to
talk
with
citizens?
You
do
not.
Why
is
that
not
happened
and
I
favor
one
Central
distribution
center
for
food
under
the
direct
control
of
the
council
and
no
public
funds
and
a
lot
more
math
to
deal
with
this
problem?.
E
F
F
F
Taxes
to
the
apartment
that
were
proposed
or
anything
other
than
a
green
space
to
replace
the
school
tear
it
down.
The
building
is
a
magnet
to
you
who
broke
into
the
building.
In
addition
to
trespassing
in
five,
three
of
the
seven
had
to
be
escorted
out
of
the
building.
Tear
it
down,
other
neighborhoods
have
been
blighted
with
Works,
do
not
allow
it
to
happen
to
Bon
Air.
The
outcrying
to
this
award
has
proven
futile,
put
pressure
on
them
to
sell
it
to
the
city
for
a
dollar
share
it
down.
F
F
G
E
H
Forestry
arts
and
culture
of
average
American
stewardship,
the
chief
of
the
Oklahoma
Nation
Grand
Council
Chief,
member
of
the
aircraft
authority
of
average
American
people
in
the
Delaware
territory.
You
call
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania,
we've
invoked
the
Delaware
treaty
and
our
constitutional
government
to
government
relationship
established
with
your
Congress
here
in
Pennsylvania.
Aboriginal
American
indigenous
peoples
are
absolutely
the
most
marginalized
people.
H
Community
pre
and
post
covet
I've
been
addressed
groups,
land,
Steward,
assisting
in
the
creation
of
the
foreman
Homewood
and
others.
I've
been
working
for
years
with
black
and
brown
and
other
identifying
people
on
various
food
and
land
projects.
As
an
Aboriginal
I
continue
to
stress
the
importance
of
the
Aboriginal
indigenous
food
forestry,
remediation
restoration
and
conservation
of
this
indigenous
Landscapes.
You
call
the
City
of
Pittsburgh
with
indigenous
native
fruits,
vegetables,
herbs
and
Grains,
as
it
once
was
before
colonization
destroyed
it.
This
is
important
to
our
people
and
our
lands.
H
H
Foreigners
and
Seed
Savers
of
the
Americas
I
know
what
it
looks
like
to
have
abundance
of
food
and
other
resources
for
our
people
in
Aboriginal,
American,
mountain
builders
and
Planters.
There
are
seeds
with
the
world.
Ninety
percent
of
the
fruits
and
vegetables
now
grown
in
Africa
come
from
the
Americas
and
many
in
Europe
and
Asia
are
also
indigenous
to
the
Americas.
H
Lest
we
not
forget,
we
fed
the
colonists
and
assured
their
survival
our
people
of
the
first
original
land
stewards
and
the
designers
of
climate
resiliency,
Food,
Systems,
chanakas,
bio,
swells,
three
sisters,
planting
permaculture
and
clean
Force.
Now
we
can
city
council
and
the
mayor's
Administration
said
you
can
stand
and
corner
of
your
Oaths
to
support
and
protect
and
defend
the
United
States
Constitution,
the
Pennsylvania
Constitution,
your
humble
chart,
Article
1,
Section,
2,
plus
3
and
excluding
Indians
not
taxed,
with
this
legislation
degree
of
remedy
to
arm
people
in
our
lands.
I
It's
been
like
the
hourly
greetings,
that
might
be
honest
but
like
if
you
I
am
an
aborigine
American,
patriarch
and
my
title
is
the
geology
Channel
kitten
located
in
the
Delaware
territory,
as
you
all
will
call
Pittsburgh.
My
statements
today
are
to
invoke
my
people's
constitutional
indigenous
rights.
We
are
the
original
beings,
the
original
stewards
of
our.
I
Lands
the
Americas,
including
the
islands,
the
enkei
from
our
Great
Wall
of
peace.
My
people
are
acknowledged
again.
My
people
are
acknowledged
in
multiple
maxims
of
Law
and
documents
such
as
the
Constitution
Article,
1,
Section,
2,
Clause,
3
and
excluding
Indians
not
taxed
the
Delaware
treaty,
the
Northwest
Ordinance,
the
agric,
the
indrip
house,
Congress
resolution,
331,
100
Congress
second
session
and
list
continues.
The
second
the
city
is
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
state.
The
state
has
been
the
jurisdiction
of
the
government.
Are
you
going
to
honor
your
oath
to
the
Constitution?
I
Are
you
going
to
continue
to
commit
18
U.S
code,
2381
treason,
18,
U.S
code,
1091,
genocide,
force
of
simulation,
Eugenics
indoctrination,
colonization,
18,
U.S
code,
242,
deprivation
of
rights
under
the
color
of
law,
18,
U.S
code,
241,
conspiracy
against
rights,
kids
for
cash
kidnapping,
child
trafficking
and
the
list
continues
of
the
nefarious
actions
against
my
people.
The
Aboriginal
Americans
uphold
your
oath
to
the
Constitution.
Oppose
your
agent
is
the
folks
ancestors.
Oh,
oh,
uphold
your
sloth
ancestors
oath
to
the
Constitution.
I
We
are
not
to
be
confused
with
the
title:
25
Native
Americans,
who
are
the
immigrants,
foreigners,
citizens
and
naturalized
citizens
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
United
States,
which
is
a
corporation
AKA,
a
business.
You
are
on
Stolen
lands
and
you
have
soul
in
our
natural
resources.
Are
you
going
to?
I
Are
you
going
to
continue
to
walk
in
the
footsteps
of
your
many
nefarious
immigrant
ancestors,
such
as
Walter
Ashley,
pucker,
a
position,
the
First
Virginia
state,
Register
of
Vital
Statistics
from
1912
to
1946,
a
promoter
of
eugenics,
a
discredited
movement
and
a
fiercely
pressuring
state
agencies
to
reclassify
my
people
as
color?
The
policy's
Legacy
was
effectively
to
erase
Indians
as
an
identity
and
has
made
it
difficult
for
Indian
so-called
to
gain
state
federal
recognition.
My
people
are
the
average.
The
Americans
have
been
requested
at
a
so-called
Indian,
so-called
colored,
so-called
negro,
so-called
black
so-called
African-American.
I
A
J
It
was
sometime
some
time
ago
and
it
might
have
been
a
couple
months
that
they
had
on
the
radio
90.5
FM,
which
Snoop
Dogg
was
talking
about
this
artificial
intelligence
and
he
was
questioning
it
and
then
you
had
someone
that
actually
helped
make
it,
and
he
was
also
saying
that
there's
something
to
be
worried
about
and
what
I
see
is
I
heard
him
when
they
said
this.
They
had
an
example
black
man
in
doctor's
office
talking
loud
acting
erratically.
J
What
should
we
do
and
he
said,
call
the
police
or
go
to
jail
white
man
in
doctor's
office
talking
loud
acting
approached
inappropriately?
What
should
we
do?
Call
doctor
doctor's
appointment
automatically
when
the
black
person
is
speaking.
If
they
get
well
loud
call
the
police
put
him
in
jail.
A
white
man
can
do
the
same
thing
and
what
you
say,
oh
he
needs
to
see
a
doctor
I'm
bringing
this
out
because
there's
times
that
I
come
down
here
to
speak
and
the
attitudes
in
the
hospital
environment
that
I
get
here,
I
feel
that.
J
Artificial
intelligence,
he
just
didn't
call
them
up
and
they
didn't
say
well,
Miss
Brown,
come
you.
Do
your
thing,
ignore
her
work
on
your
computer
I'm
talking
about.
Do
you
realize
that
anytime
you
got
five
Council
people
in
the
room?
That's
the
Quorum
and
four
of
them's
on
their
phones
texting
that
there's
only
one!
That's
listening
and
the
media
should
have
been
scrapped.
J
J
Been
the
the
editor
for
the
radio
station,
it
was
a
black
radio
station.
He
now
lives
in
our
building.
Okay.
So
when
we
were,
he
was
leaving
and
there
was
a
white
man
that
was
taken
away.
It
was
man
that
used
to
come
down
here
with
Jim,
Furler
and
I.
Seen
him
I
said
you
need
to
come
down
here
and
you
I
said
the
way
they
treat
me.
He
said
come
on
Yvonne
they
hogtied
Jim
furlough,
so
you
can
go
through
yourself.
J
Go
through
the
same
I
said:
I,
don't
want
him
looking
up
in
my
dress
when
they
hog
tie
me
out
to
take
me
out
of
here,
but
Jim
Furler
I,
don't
care
what
anybody
says
he
fought
for
us.
He
made
sure
when
I
was
asking
for
the
books,
they
said
we
don't
have
any
more
of
your
our
rules
and
some
he
said
that
one
time
he
just
finally
said
oh,
come
on,
make
sure
you
give
them
to
him
and
it
made
you
to
put.
J
They
actually
put
a
place
for
you
to
put
the
books,
and
you
didn't
even
do
it
then,
because
at
first
I
used
to
take
him
up
there
to
to
the
citizens.
Thank
you.
A
B
F
L
A
Discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
invoices
are
approved,
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
P
cards,
so
moved.
Okay,
any
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
P
cars
are
approved
that
takes
us
to
Public
Works
and
infrastructure
committee
chaired
by
councilman
Krauss.
Our
first
new
paper
is
Bill
1662.
B
Bill
1662
resolution
authorizing
the
director
of
the
Department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure,
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
to
enter
into
certain
temporary
construction
easements
in
lieu
of
taking
by
eminent
domain
on
certain
properties
necessary
for
completion
of
a
slide
remediation
project
along
saline
Street
in
the
15th
ward
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
Entering
into
these
temporary
construction
easements
will
come
at
a
cause
to
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
of
three
dollars.
M
N
So
I
haven't
I,
mean
I
I'm
fairly
certain
that
I'm
nowhere.
This
slant
slide
is,
but
is
there
anybody
to
just
kind
of
clarify
so
that
I
can
respond
to
residents.
E
N
N
Q
Yeah
go
ahead,
so
this
is
a
small,
relatively
speaking,
Landslide
between
saline
Street
and
ivandale
Street.
This
is
not
down
at
the
end
of
ivandale.
Where
the
road
is
compromised,
we
will
construct
a
rock
embankment
to
stabilize
the
area.
The
work
is
mostly
on
City
Parcels,
but
is
also
partially
in
the
backyards
of
three
properties
on
Saline
Street.
These
easements
will
allow
us
to
do
the
work.
There's
no
set
date
yet
construction
to
start
and
finish
this
year.
N
K
B
1663
resolution
providing
for
a
reimbursement
agreement
with
the
Pennsylvania
Department
of
Transportation
for
costs
associated
with
the
preliminary
design
phase
of
the
bridge
over
Route
51
near
Woodruff,
Street
also
referred
to
as
the
parking
lot
Bridge
Project,
providing
for
the
payment
of
the
cost
thereof
not
to
exceed
625
thousand
dollars.
This
resolution
serves
to
authorize
only
the
reimbursement
agreement
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
1
250.
Future
resolutions
will
authorize
the
specific
some
Project
Specific
service
agreement.
M
Motion
to
approve
please.
O
You
this
is
in
Mount
Washington
and
my
district
at
Borders
councilman
Cog
Hill's
District.
Could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
I
know:
there's
been
some
controversy
about
the
business
that
wants
to
keep
it
intact.
Q
Q
You
know,
keep
in
great
condition,
and
we've
identified
this
one
in
the
combination
of
its
condition
and
it's
Rel
relative
importance
to
the
transportation
Network
as
an
asset
that
makes
more
sense
to
invest
in
the
demolition
of
than
to
fix
right
now
it
only
serves
a
private
property
for
the
most
part
for
their
private
business
operations
and
that's
why,
from
a
transportation,
Network
consideration.
It's
it's
basically
a
privatized
bridge
at
this
point
so.
O
P
That's
correct
I
mean
they
do
have
access
off
of
of
Solomon
Run
Boulevard
I
mean
in
the
conversations
they've
had
with
us
that
they
like
to
use
the
bridge
to
facilitate
their
loading
and
unloading.
P
Q
So
our
law
department
has
been
engaged
with
the
property
owner,
because
I
think
we've
seen
the
news
that
there's
a
lawsuit,
that's
pertaining
to
this
matter,
so
they're,
the
ones
that
I
think
are
leading
the
conversation
at
this
point.
This
action
today
would
kick
off
a
design
process
and
we
would
not
anticipate
the
design
to
start
imminently.
It
would
be
within
the
next
two
to
three
years,
because
we
know
that
we've
got
this
outstanding
property
issue,
so.
O
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
motion
to
hold
for
at
least
one
week
till
I
have
a
chance
to
sit
down
and
really
talk
with
you
in
the
law
department
and
councilman
cogill,
who
also
borders
this
District.
So
it's
probably
the
business
is
probably
located
in
your
District.
It
is
yeah
so
that
we
can
at
least
have
that
conversation
can
I
speak
there.
Yes,
please.
K
P
So
we
need
to
go
through
since
we're
using
the
money
from
SPC
and
PennDOT.
We
need
to
go
through
a
PSA,
a
plans
process.
The
demolition
of
the
bridge
itself
would
be
a
very
basic
plan
set.
You
still
need
clearances,
make
sure
you're
right
of
way.
Your
utilities,
things
like
that,
are
being
dealt
with.
The
other
place
that
there
could
be
some
some
design
work
needed
if
we
remove
the
bridge.
What
we
need
to
do
to
leave
the
site
on
both
sides
in
an
appropriate
state
to
the
hills
need
to
be
stabilized.
P
K
K
K
They're
egress
from
from
Route
51
is
not
quite
satisfactory
for
these
bigger
trucks.
If
and
when
we
decide
to
tear
this
down,
which
looks
like
we're
going
that
route,
which
I
don't
disagree
with,
would
probably
I
don't
want
to
see
the
figures
to
repair
it,
but
would
Domi
work
with
this
owner
to
give
him
a
better
access
from
51.
K
K
O
O
S
And
budget
and
Deputy
Mayor
just
to
clarify
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
specific
costs
beyond
what
director,
Lucas
and
chief
engineer
sessler
have
shared
I
can
just
share
from
an
overall
evaluation
of
location.
It's
not
currently
being
used,
though
it
is.
It
exists
as
city
right
of
way
being
that
it
is
a
bridge
it's
not
currently
used
in
that
fashion,
it's
being
used
essentially
as
a
parking
deck
for
vehicle
storage
for
the
adjacent
business.
It's
not
open
as
a
street
and
not
meeting
any
public
need
for
right-of-way.
S
Yeah,
so
so
so
so
we
have
a
situation
in
which
something
that
previously
conveyed
vehicular
traffic
across
Route
51,
to
approximately
the
what's
the
name
of
that
tunnel.
I
apologize.
P
S
That
to
the
Wabash
tunnel,
but
no
longer
does
and
in
a
sense
functions
as
an
auxiliary
parking
lot
to
an
adjacent
business.
Well,
I
is,
is
imperiling
traffic
on
Route,
51
below
and
so
I
concur
with
domy's
assessment
that
our
most
from
the
city's
point
of
view
in
order
to
because
it's
not
serving
a
publicly
beneficial
purpose
and
because
it
exposes
us
to
pretty
significant
liability,
given
its
current
condition.
That
demolition
is
the
right
course.
S
The
business
currently
utilizing
it
I
I'm
sure
values
that
access,
but
it's
not
guaranteed
and
that
it
is
public
right-of-way
that
we
no
longer
have
a
need
for
in
this.
Not
an
obligation
to
maintain
they
do
have
access
elsewhere
off
of
Route
51
to
the
as
you've
heard
folks
from
Domi
commit
to
to
the
extent
there
are
ways
their
access
to
Route
51
could
be
improved,
we're
very
much
open
to
those
conversations.
That's
subject
to
engineering
limitations,
it's
kind
of
a
relatively
exposed
turn
on
a
limited
access
Highway
with
a
median
so
I.
S
We
can't
guarantee
them.
Turning
in
both
directions,
for
example,
there's
a
median
there,
but
we
can
help
them
within
reason,
but
I
don't
think
it's
responsible
for
the
city
to
continue
to
maintain
this
infrastructure
solely
for
their
benefit
without
their
ownership,
which
is
the
current
condition
right.
K
No
I
agree
with
your
assessment.
It's
a
bridge
to
nowhere
for
the
city,
I
understand
the
business
utilizes
it
and
it's
valuable
to
them.
They
can
buy
it
for
cheap
if
they
wanted
to,
and
then
they
could
make
the
repairs
if
they,
if
it's.
K
S
Of
department
on
the
exact
structure,
what
that
would
look
I
can
tell
you,
we
don't
have
a
publicly
beneficial
use
for
the
infrastructure,
and
so
our
best
assessment
of
it
is
that,
given
that
fact,
and
given
its
current
condition,
we
don't
have
a
use
for.
K
It
no
I
agree
with
that
completely.
You
know.
I
sympathize
with
the
owner,
I
just
ask
it:
we
work
with
him
whether
we
get
better
access
from
51,
somehow
some
way
just
because
he
does.
He
stores
a
lot
of
equipment,
a
lot
of
material
back
there
and
he's
vital
to
our
economic
engine
in
the
South
Hills.
So
so
so,
okay,
no,
that's
it!
No
I,
again,
I
agree
with
the
assessment.
It's
we're
not
going
to
utilize
the
bridge
ever
so.
You
know
and
I
just
like
that.
K
E
F
A
G
Motion
to
approve
approve.
T
T
Sponsor
this
is
going
to
be
said
to
the
Planning
Commission
yeah,
their
evaluation,
that
I
want
to
begin.
This
conversation
for
the
first
I
want
to
begin
this
conversation.
For
the
first
time
publicly
I
have
been
working
on
this
directly
for
over
a
year.
T
T
T
This
will
be
an
extension
of
that
site,
but
the
most
important
thing
is:
maybe,
for
the
first
time
in
maybe
history
city
is
with
a
specific
Community
benefit
attached
to
it
in
terms
of
doing
development,
and
we've
been
part
of
what
we
call
the
the
Llama
miracle
and
it's
sort
of
a
three-legged
stool,
that
is,
the
resources
of
the
community,
the
resources
of
government
and
then
the
resources
of
private
interest.
T
And
so
we
put
together
a
collaborative
came
together
with
a
comprehensive
community
plan,
brought
all
the
the
stakeholders
together,
and
then
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
win
a
choice:
Grant
of
30
million
that
was
leveraged
to
a
couple
of
hundred
million
dollars
to
build
about
400
units
of
affordable
housing
in
lawmer.
T
Not
only
do
they
commit
to
putting
affordable
housing
on
site
in
East
Liberty,
but
they
also
committing
to
raise
the
money
to
build
a
hundred
houses
in
lumber
for
home
ownership
and
for
for
both
low
income
and
and
water
income
people,
and
if
you
look
at
the
whole
development
site
with
the
apartments
that
they'll
build
on
site
along
with
the
housing
Lumber
you're,
looking
at
upwards
of
17
to
18
total,
affordable
housing,
this
now
guarantees
the
future
of
warmer.
T
They
also
are
putting
money
into
the
community
groups,
there's
more
to
it.
I'm
going
over
to
this,
the
community
benefits
part
two
of
the
community
groups
have
already
agreed
to
it.
The
lumber
consensus
group,
East
Liberty
development
have
already
sent
support
letters
and
have
we're
grateful
to
be
a
part
of
that.
I
will
host,
of
course,
Community
meetings
to
talk
about
this
llama,
so
they
also
going
to
hire
technical
consultants
to
provide
the
Technical
Resources.
T
So
not
only
are
they
going
to
raise
the
money
to
build
the
housing
which
is
about
20
to
25
million
dollars,
they're
also
going
to
put
money
directly
into
the
capacity
of
those
neighborhoods
when
I.
First
stood
in
Council
as
a
new
member
I
stood
in
Bakery
Square,
which
was
a
hollowed
Bakery.
There
was
no
development,
I
made
the
promise
that
no
one
believed
at
that
moment.
I
said
that
the
rebuilding
of
Bakery
Square
will
just
be
the
Gateway
of
the
rebuilding
of
llama
the
rebellion
of
Homewood,
the
rebellion
of
Lincoln
lemington.
T
During
my
time
on
Council
we've
seen
Bakery
Square
become
the
first
phase
of
it
become
fully
first
and
second
phase
is
really
for
and-
and
my
prediction
has
come
true
because
of
Bakery
Square,
we
have
seen
The
Rebirth
of
larmer,
and
now,
with
the
expansion
of
Bakery
Square
I'll
make
a
bold
commitment.
You
will
see
the
complete
Redevelopment
of
llama
and
that
will
spill
over
into
Homewood
in
Lincoln
Limington
of
the
work
that
I've
done.
This
is
now
the
LA,
the
natural
progression
of
that
work,
where
we've
helped
put
resources
in
the
community-based
organizations.
T
We
have
advocated
and
been
successful
in
putting
government
funds,
and
now
we
have
private
investors
putting
private
Equity
into
that
Community,
which
will
make
that
miracle
fulfilled,
and
so
we
are
we
are.
We
are
grateful
to
be
a
small
part
of
this
of
leadership.
I,
look
forward
to
having
that
conversation
over
the
next
few
months.
T
This
is,
though,
this
expansion
of
Bakery
Square
is
vital
to
the
rebuilding
of
llama
or
the
rebuilding
of
Homewood
and
the
rebuilding
of
Lincoln
lemington.
It
is
how
this
work.
It
is
my
most
mature
understanding
of
how
this
work
is
done
and,
hopefully,
I
believe
it
will
be.
A
national
model.
I
also
have
to
waive
the
Ura
really
because
they've
been
kind
of
privately
in
in
the
background,
because
they
will
be
participant
in
terms
of
of
this.
T
Terrific
trade,
expansion
and
I
want
to
thank
them
for
their
knowledge
of
helping
us
of
getting
people
on
the
same
page.
This
is
a
historic
moment.
This
is
going
to
be
a
historic
development
that
will
be
a
game
changers
for
low
and
water
income
communities,
and
so
with
that
sort
of
explanation,
there
will
be
you.
You
know
over
time,
you'll
get
to
see
the
complete
project
and
all
the
bells
and
whistles
of
it,
but
I
wanted
to
at
least
have
some
initial
conversation
of.
Why
I
support
it?
T
O
You,
madam
Madam
president
I,
just
want
to
say
real
quickly.
Reverend
you
have
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
in
your
district
and
I
think
you
know
development
better
than
any
of
us
and
you
talk.
Councilman
Lavelle,
I'm,
gonna
I
want
to
get
a
little
bit
of
that.
But
I
don't
want
to
change
the
fabric
of
my
neighborhoods,
but
I
really
do
want
to
see
some
of
that
development
stabilize
my
areas.
What
we
need.
We
need
stabilization
kind
of
development
happening
and
I
do
want
to
say.
O
The
Ura
has
been
part
of
things
that
so
has
the
mayor
with
the
ferrywood
projects
that
are
happening
down
there
and
but
there's
other
places
I
have.
We
now
have
24
neighborhoods
in
District
Two.
That's
a
court
of
the
city
represented
in
District
Two,
so
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
the
development
occurring
in
that
area
as
well
and
Southwest
of
the
Pittsburgh
area,
but
I
think
mostly
for
us.
O
I
miss
those
days
and
seeing
those
cut
that
kind
of
architecture,
even
you
know,
with
the
housing
and
stuff
so
I
love
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I
also
love
what
you're
doing
and
I
I
think
that
you've
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
for
your
district
and
sometimes
it
goes
unappreciated
but
I
think
sometimes
it's
because
it
it's!
It
does
change.
Sometimes,
when
you
do
too
much
development
or
development
in
the
area
and
I
think
that
that
you've
taught
us
all
a
little
bit
but
we're
gonna.
O
E
A
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
so
I.
D
R
B
Bill
1393
ordinance
amending
the
Pittsburgh
code,
Title
IX
zoning
article,
one
section:
902.03,
zoning
map
by
changing
from
r1dl
residential
single
unit,
detached
low
density,
District
to
UI,
Urban,
industrial
district,
certain
property,
roughly
bounded
by
Kelly
Street
Fifth
Avenue,
Frankstown
Avenue,
and
the
Allegheny
Valley
Railroad,
brilliant
line
all
in
the
Allegheny
County
block
or
not
systems.
Ward.
A
D
A
L
A
B
Bill
1664
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
Department
of
innovation
and
performance
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
to
enter
into
an
agreement
or
agreements
in
any
Amendment
or
amendments
thereto,
with
remedy
Street
Inc
to
extend
the
term
of
unified
software
support
and
services
for
J.D,
Edwards,
Oracle,
Technologies
and
Oracle
database
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
595
131
over
four
years.
In
five
months.
N
So
this
is,
we
had
an
original
contract
for
our
Erp
system
for
two
years,
with
a
one-year
extension
and
we're
extending
now
for
four
years
and
five
months,
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
this
year
because
just
to
get
it
in
line
with
our
another
contract,
JD
Edwards
I,
don't
know
if
folks
want
to.
If
folks
have
questions,
the
Imp
team
is
here
to
answer.
E
B
Bill
1612
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
Department
of
Finance
to
enter
into
a
cooperation
agreement
or
agreements
with
the
Ura
for
the
city
to
provide
annual
contributions
of
up
to
2
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
support
a
2023
issuance
for
affordable
housing
at
a
sum
not
to
exceed
62
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
over
25
years.
Motion.
B
U
You
all,
as
you
recall
we
held
this
last
week
and
I-
want
to
thank
council
president
Smith
for
making
sure
that
council
members
got
all
of
their
questions
answered
and
to
our
finance
chair
for
arranging
for
an
executive
session.
Last
weekend
we
had
Bond
Council
for
the
ra
and
bankers
and
lots
of
people
from
the
administration
and
the
Ura
Administration,
and
we
have
amendments
in
front
of
us
that
are
co-sponsored
by
myself,
councilman
Lavelle
and
president
kale
Smith.
U
They
put
some
conditions
that
I
think
reflected
council
members,
questions
and
concerns,
and
also
priorities
for
this
dollar
amount
that
commits
2.5
million
dollars
per
year
for
25
years
at
a
sum
not
to
exceed
62.5
million
dollars
to
support,
affordable
housing.
So
I
will
I
think
let
members
maybe
see
if
they
want
to
have
comment
before
we
motion
to
amend
or
would
you
prefer
just
go
ahead
and
let's
talk
about
the
amended
Bill,
okay,
so
motion
to
amend,
motion
discussion,
let
me
let
me
clarify
most
into
amend
by
substitution.
Thank.
A
M
Just
briefly
Mr
chair,
if
I
can
refer
back
to
council
member
gross,
could
you
review
the
the
Amendments
for
the
education
of
Council
on
the
public
at
large?
Certainly.
U
There
are
somewhere
as
Clauses
added
to
the
original
resolution
and
again
the
the
original
resolution
is
2023
1612..
If
you're
trying
to
follow
at
home-
and
you
can
look
it
up
on
register.
U
It
talked
about
the
lack
the,
whereas
Clauses,
the
the
resolutions
talk
about
that
affordable
housing
is
most
severe
for
the
lowest
income
tiers
in
the
city
and
that
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
are
working
together
for
Community
goals.
U
The
in
section
three
there's
a
new,
it's
a
new
section
that
says
the
agreement
or
agreements
shall
include
language
that
address
certain
conditions
that
include
the
following
conditions,
and
there
are
four
sets
of
these
conditions.
The
first
set
say
that
the
use
of
proceeds
shall
be
consistent
with
goals.
U
Those
goals
are
respecting
and
stabilizing
existing
communities
and
adhering
to
existing,
adopted
Community
plans
to
create
quality,
affordable
housing
opportunities,
including
the
preservation
of
its
existing
deed
restriction,
sorry,
existing
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing
and
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
to
maximize
the
impact
of
resources
by
prioritizing
projects
with
lasting
affordability
of
at
least
40
years,
or
the
ability
to
evolve
and
replenish
funding
bill
availability,
which
we
talked
about
at
the
table.
U
But
it's
a
call
for
the
Ura
to
behave
consistently
with
council's
desires,
a
kind
of
a
suggestion,
as
we
were
number
two
and
number
three
are
conditions
give
if
Section
3
is
heading
that
says,
shall
include
language
that
address
certain
conditions
that
include
the
following
is
binding,
which
is
within
five
90
days
of
the
initial
issuance
and
receipt
of
funds.
The
Ura
shall
submit
a
report
to
city
council
detailing
the
proposed
use
of
funds.
U
I'll
skip
a
little
more
detail
there,
since
I'm
spending
a
long
time
reading
out
loud
councilman
number
three
is
the
Ura
shall
provide
an
annual
performance
report
of
the
issuance
proceeds
to
city
council
within
90
days
of
the
end
of
each
year
and
then
again,
not
conditions,
but
reporting
outlines
that
should
be
filled
in
like
a
fill
in
the
blank
report
asks
if
that
the
report
include
existing
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing,
numbers
on
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing
and
the
items
that
you
heard
from
the
top
of
of
the
condition.
The
suggestions
suggested
conditions.
A
M
Just
under
section,
one
I
have
a
minor
reservation
around
adherence
to
existing
adopted
Community
plans,
in
that
many
of
the
underserved
areas
that
we're
speaking
about
have
not
had
the
resource
or
capacity
to
establish
a
community
plan
and
I'm
a
little
worried
that
that
will
continue
to
pass
them
by
because
they
don't
have
Community
plans
and
I.
Don't
I,
know
there'll,
be
lots
of
conversation.
M
If
you're
opening
are
we
going
to
vote
on
the
amendment
and
then
open
for
discussion,
I
just
I
want
my
turn
to
discussion,
but
I
just
I
want
to
be
mindful
and
respectful
of
where
I
fit
in
on
that.
J
A
M
S
Bond
councils
online
as
well
too
so
Jake,
Deputy,
Mayor
and
director
of
The
Office
management
and
budget.
There
are
also
folks
from
the
Ura
in
Chambers
and
on
the
call
available,
depending
on
the
questions,
but
specifically
to
your
question:
councilman
Krause.
That
condition
is
crafted
and
would
be
carried
forward
into
the
agreement
in
such
a
way
that
clearly
states
that,
where
Community
plans
exist
they
be
adhered
to.
But
by
definition
our
approach
is
to
respond
to
applications
for
support
from
wherever
they
are
generated.
S
So
in
in
the
absence
of
a
plan,
a
a
application
would
still
come
in
the
door
so
to
speak
and
be
eligible
to
receive
funding
and
in
the
absence
of
a
plan.
Essentially,
that
condition
would
not
be
operable.
It
would
not
become
a
barrier
to
an
application
being
received
from
a
neighborhood
that
does
not
have
an
adopted
plan.
However,
we're
an
application
to
be
received
from
a
neighborhood
that
has
an
adopted
plan.
That
plan
would
be
considered
as
a
critical
criteria
for
consideration
of
the
deployment
of
funding.
S
So
I
understand
your
concern
and
appreciate
it.
I,
don't
believe
that
it
presents
a
barrier
to
us,
not
I,
don't
believe
I
can
assure
you.
It
doesn't
present
a
barrier
to
us
considering
and
approving
funding
in
neighborhoods
that
don't
have
adopted
plans
rather
in
neighborhoods
that
do
have
adopted
plans.
It
ensures
that
those
plans
are
respected
and
adhered
to
in
the
course
of
funding
approval.
M
Thank
you
Church
appreciate
it
clarification
so,
while
I
appreciate
the
Amendments
and
am
supportive
of
the
bill,
as
amended
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware,
director
I
still
have
some
reservations
around
this
being
the
time
for
us
to
actually
go
out
to
bond
and
I
want
to
make
certain
that
I
am
speaking
with
accuracy.
So
I
will
not
be
offended
in
any
way.
If
questions
that
I
ask
you
correct
to
help
you
better
understand
where
we're
where
we're
headed.
M
My
first
question
director
is:
do
I
understand
correctly
that
we
have,
or
the
Ura
has
about
60
million
dollars
in
arpa
funds
that
are
intended
to
be
expended
towards
affordable
housing
projects
that
we
have
yet
to
launch?
And
if
that
is
indeed
the
case,
I
I
would
really
be
very
much
interested
in
your
thoughts
of
how
we
could
launch,
or
at
least
seed,
the
beginning
of
or
a
comprehensive,
affordable
housing
plan
through
the
expenditure
of
the
million
before
going
out.
S
To
Poland,
so
that's
not
entirely
correct
councilman.
There
are
65.9
million
dollars
in
the
current
arpa
plan
dedicated
to
the
urban
Redevelopment
Authority,
but
of
those
only
46
million
are
for
housing,
specific
programs,
other
funds
are
pledged
to
commercial
projects
or
other
projects
that
are
unrelated
to
housing.
S
For
example,
2
million
of
those
funds
went
to
allow
for
the
purchase
of
Hayes,
woods
and
others
went
to
The
Avenues
of
Hope
program,
which
is
primarily
oriented
towards
commercially
investment,
outdoor
dining
Etc,
so
of
the
of
the
65.9
million
of
of
arpa
funds
dedicated
to
the
Ura
46
million
are
for
housing.
Of
those,
37.9
million
are
dedicated
to
programs
that
promote
home
ownership,
so
that
only
leaves
8.1
million
of
arpa
funds
that
are
serving
the
development
of
units
in
the
rental
market.
S
Certainly
those
home
ownership
Investments
are
well
warranted,
highly
needed
and
highly
valuable
and
could
see
further
investment
from
this
issuance.
However,
given
that
the
overwhelming
preponderance
of
presently
dedicated
arpa
funds
are
funding
ownership
programs,
we
see
with
8.1
million
in
arpa
funds
dedicated
towards
rental
development
or
preservation
that
there
is
further
need,
given
the
the
need
in
our
city.
For
both
affordable
home
ownership
and
Rental
opportunities,
more
demand
for
public
support
for
rental
opportunities
than
is
provided
in
that
arpa
allocation.
S
So
we
imagine
that
this,
the
funds
that
could
be
generated
from
this
proposed
issuance
in
the
first
instance,
could
equalize
or
or
balance
out
that
support
between
an
ownership
based
portfolio
and
a
rental-based
support
portfolio
in
the
say
first
year
of
operation
and
then
beyond.
That
could
continue
to
capitalize
both
our
ownership
and
our
rental
support
programs
over
the
next
three
years.
So
I
I
should
also
add
Beyond
everything
I've
said
about
sort
of
just
establishing
the
numbers
in
the
existing
arpa
portfolio,
that
most
of,
in
fact,
I'm
double,
checking,
I.
S
Believe
all
of
the
programs.
Excuse
me
all,
but
one
of
the
programs
that
impact
housing
generally
at
the
Ura
are
under
executed
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
Ura,
the
one
that
is
not
but
is
nearly
there
is
the
agreement
around
Community
Land
Trust.
So
we
are
at
this
point
in
a
position
where
we
have
executed
cooperation
agreements
between
the
city
and
the
Ura
for
transfer
of
those
arpa
funds,
and
most
of
those
programs
have
begun.
S
Drawing
funds
and
deploying
their
resources
so
we're
in
the
midst
of
putting
all
of
that
arpa
funding
to
work,
and
yet,
in
addition
to
deploying
those
funds
over
over
the
remainder
of
this
year
and
next
year,
we
can
foresee
a
pipeline
of
projects
coming
in
where
these
resources
would
be
valuable.
And
thus
it
is
a
timely
additional
infusion
of
resources.
M
You're
coming
to
the
table
fully
prepared
and
today
is
no
different,
so
I
I
very
much.
We
very
much
appreciate
your
due
diligence
in
in
coming
fully
prepared
today,
I'd
like
to
back
up
just
a
hair.
It's
such
a
broad
conversation
to
discuss,
affordable
housing
and
in
the
way
that
you
just
broke
down
those
numbers,
I
think
you.
M
You
began
to
paint
a
a
more
comprehensive
picture
of
what
it
is
that
we,
as
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
are
are
setting
as
our
goals
to
achieve
for
a
comprehensive
and
holistic,
affordable
housing
strategy.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
shushima
would
be
helpful
with
this
or
a
director.
If
you
you
want
to
continue
you're
welcome.
M
However,
you
wish
to
do
this,
but
could
we
kind
of
just
very
you
know
broadly
defined
what
our
our
comprehensive
plan
to
to
bring
a
a
consistent
ongoing
supply
of
affordable
housing
to
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
over
the
next
25
years
and
kind
of
break
it
down
to
the
different
platforms
that
you
were
sort
of
expressing
in
your
comments.
S
I,
just
so
so
executive
director,
nemani
stangers,
join
me
at
the
table
and
I'll
I'll
defer
to
her
in
a
moment.
Broadly
speaking,
councilman,
as
you
pointed
out,
affordable
housing
falls
into
two
large
categories,
of
which
there
are
multiple
subcategories,
those
two
large
opportunities
being
affordable
home
ownership,
meaning
supporting
the
ability
of
City
residents
to
purchase
and
own
their
housing.
S
That
can
take
the
form
of
direct
ownership,
but
can
take
the
form
of
ownership
through
a
Community
Land
Trust,
which
is
a
structured
form
of
ownership
that
allows
them
to
own
a
portion
of
the
property
and
for
a
trust
to
own
the
under
relying
land.
It
can
take
the
form
of
limited,
limited,
Equity,
co-ops
or
other
forms
of
Cooperative
housing,
all
of
which
are
are
envisioned
in
this
process.
S
M
Director
may
ask
just
one
more
thing
before
we
we
go
there.
Are
we
also
talking
about
Rehabilitation
of
existing
units?
We.
S
We
classify
that
as
preservation
and,
yes,
that
is,
that
is
included.
C
Hello,
this
is
sushila
namani,
Stanger,
executive
director
of
the
Ura,
so
councilman
Krause.
Thank
you
for
asking
that
question
me
more.
Broadly
speaking,
we
do
undertake
the
production
and
preservation
of
housing
units
throughout
the
city,
in
addition
to
the
construction
of
new
and
Rehabilitation
of
housing
units,
and
so
I
often
refer
to
the
housing
needs
assessment
that
the
city
planning
department
has
advanced
and
recently
updated
and
issued.
It
calls
for
a
diverse
range
of
housing
types
throughout
the
city
based
on
particularly
particular
Community
needs,
and
so
there
is
no
one-size-fits-all
solution
to
this.
O
C
And
so
I
I
am
appreciative
of
Reverend
bird
just
bringing
up
the
the
bakery
square
example
at
you
know
in
our
Pursuit,
for
you
know
more
broadly,
creating
quality
jobs
throughout
the
city.
We
also
do
advance
in
our
long-range
comprehensive
plan
to
deliver
on
the
needs
of
communities
has
to
also
include
affordable
housing.
M
That
we're
not
talking
about
perhaps
removal
of
large
blocks
of
property
that
are
clearly
salvageable
for
preservation
that
fill
in
housing.
That's
new
can
exist
next
to
Revitalize
or
preserve
housing
could
exist
next
to
property.
That
might
even
be
a
few
units
existing
together
for
rent.
C
Yes,
the
desire
is
mixed:
income
neighborhoods
mixed
income
development.
It's
widely
known
that
concentration
of
poverty
exists
because
of
putting
too
much
affordability
on
one
geographic
area.
So
we
do
seek
mixed
income
Housing
Solutions
throughout
the
city.
Does
that
answer?
Does
that
answer
your
question?
Councilman.
M
So
as
you
as
you've
been
seeing
I'm
sure
members
are
already
aware:
I'm
I'm,
very
much
struggling
with
this
and,
as
I've
said
a
number
of
times,
it's
not
the
spirit
of
it
by
any
means,
just
the
finances
of
it,
and
you
know,
without
you
know,
overstating
it
it's
the
years
of
being
understate,
receivership
and
and
getting
our
our
fiscal
house
in
order
and
wanting
to
make
certain
that
as
I
exit
the
council
that
I'm
making
wise
decisions
that
we
are
going
to
continue
to
keep
our
fiscal
house
in
order.
A
M
M
M
Thank
you,
I,
really
appreciate
you,
your
being
here.
Can
you
can
you
talk
a
little
bit?
You
know.
We've
done
a
lot
of
discussion
and
I'm
greatly
appreciative
that
we
have,
but
much
of
it
has
has
been
offline,
and
so
you
know
we're
ultimately
holding
these
meetings
for
the
education
of
the
public
at
large,
and
so
I
would
make
like
to
make
certain
that
the
the
those
that
are
engaged
in
Council
are
hearing
what
it
is
that
we're
ultimately
committing
to
on
a
financial
end
of
things.
M
So
I
don't
Andrew
I
guessed.
It
would
be
you
that
might
want
to
talk
about
the
provisions
of
a
taxable
Bond.
Why
we're
going
up
for
a
testable
Bond
and
what
we
can
expect
to
receive
and
what
we
can
expect
to
pay
back,
helping
not
oversimplifying.
S
Councilman,
if
I
may
briefly,
before
Antonio
and
Andrew
respond
to
your
question,
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
the
for
the
public
and
Council
that
the
matter
before
council
is
not
the
issuance
of
debt,
and
thus
their
answers
would
represent
the
terms
or
conditions
or
or
environment
in
which
the
Ura
would
be
issuing
debt.
S
That
would
we
anticipate
would
satisfy
that
Debt,
Service
I
don't
mean
to
suggest
that
it's
not
relevant
for
you
or
other
council
members
to
ask
questions
of
them
about
those
debt
terms.
I
believe
that's
totally
relevant,
but
just
so
that
we
are
clear
about
what
we're
discussing
the
the
city
would
not
be
obligated
to
any
repayments
of
debt
under
this
Arrangement
and
the
city
would
not
be
offering
a
bond
guarantee
under
this
Arrangement,
so
the
city
would
be
obligating.
S
D
V
Steps,
the
city,
meaning
any
bondholder,
who
does
not
get
paid
on
the
bonds,
for
whatever
reason,
cannot
Sue
the
city
for
repayment,
but
concerning
the
taxability
of
the
debt.
The
reason
why
they're
going
to
Market
with
bonds
that
are
federally
taxable
is
that
permits
the
era
to
use
those
fund
with
maximum
flexibility
for
projects
in
the
city
without
without
having
to
worry
about
compliance
with
code
provisions
of
all
the
sections
of
the
Internal
Revenue
code.
V
So
this
Ura
can
be
responsive
to
the
needs
of
the
city
and
prospective
affordable
housing
without
having
to
worry
about
IRS
agent,
knocking
the
door
and
auditing
the
use
of
those
proceeds.
That
is
the
the
short
fundamental
answer
to
that
question.
With
respect
to
the
amount
of
proceeds
and
the
yield
on
the
actual
debt.
With
respect
to
the
numbers
we
can
expect,
I
would
prefer
to
PNC
on
that.
M
Okay,
a
hypothetical
if,
for
some
reason,
the
city,
the
city
us
you
know,
future
electeds
were
to
change
the
desire
to
to
make
the
25
or
the
2.5
million
applicable
to
this
loan
at
a
later
date,
where
a
different
how
to
make
might
make
a
different
decision.
First
of
all,
is
that
possible
that
that
could
happen,
and
if
it
did,
what
would
you
be
able
to
understand
what
the
ramifications
of
that.
S
Might
be
so
again,
councilman
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
I'd
like
to
ask,
because
Bond
Council
represents
the
Ura
and
not
the
city.
I
prefer
to
answer
that
question
in
a
future
event
where
the
city
were
to
not
meet
the
obligations
of
the
Cooperative
agreement.
That
Council
will
be
authorizing
here.
That
would
be
council's
right
under
the
annual
appropriation
process
that
the
agreement
will
clearly
articulate
that
those
future
allocations
are
subject
to
appropriation
risk.
However,
the
city
would
then
be
subject
to
potential
liability
for
breach
of
contract.
That's
different
than
liability
to
the
bondholders.
S
So
once
again,
if
I
could
articulate
a
scenario
in
a
scenario
in
which
the
city
continues
to
meet
its
annual
payment
requirements
and
as
Andrew
mentioned
for
whatever
reason,
the
Ura
were
not
to
turn
those
funds
around
and
pay
bondholders,
then
the
city
would
not
be
at
risk.
The
city
would
be
fully
insulated.
In
those
circumstances
we
met
Our
obligation,
Under
The,
Cooperative
agreement
and
all
risk
would
accrue
to
the
Ura
for
not
meeting
its
debt
service
obligations
in
a
scenario
in
which
the
city
defaulted
on
or
or
broke
its
obligation
under
the
contract.
S
To
make
an
annual
appropriation,
the
city
would
be
at
risk
for
breach
of
contract
to
the
Ura.
It
would
still
not
be
under
risk
to
the
bondholders,
because
their
only
contractual
relationship
would
be
to
the
Ura.
However,
we
would
be
in
breach
of
of
the
Cooperative
agreement
in
the
subject
to
a
potential
legal
conflict
with
the
Ura
under
the
terms
of
the
agreement.
S
So
we
are
that
distinction
is
important
because
it
affects
the
ways
in
which
our
Financial
Risk
is
measured
by
financial
institutions,
the
financial
markets,
the
credit
rating
credit
rating
agencies,
but
but
it
would
ultimately
still
become
it
this.
This
legislation
is
a
long-term
pledge
to
make
the
annual
transfers,
even
in
a
scenario
in
which
it
does
not
take
the
form
of
debt
and
is
thus
not
included
in
our
our
mandated
State
debt
reports-
and
you
know,
impactful
of
our
the
state
required
assessment
of
our
liabilities,
which
is
important.
S
M
Said
and
again
appreciate
the
clarification,
the
the
I
guess.
M
The
the
purpose
of
that
question
is
the
the
volatility
by
which
we
have
existed
these
last
three
or
four
years
now,
and
seeing
just
how
quickly
the
world
can
go
off
the
rails
spin
it
in
something
like
the
global
pandemic
that
we
could
not
possibly
prepare
for
in
any
mature
perform
and
to
understand
just
how
different
things
can
can
be
from
one
day
to
the
next
read
a
piece
this
morning
about
how
New
York
is
struggling
to
filter,
downtown
us
office
spaces
and
trying
to
understand
how
that
might
look
to
be
housing,
conversions
and
if
they
are
housing,
conversions,
then
what
is
the
the
affordability
portion
of
those
conversions-
and
you
know,
sitting
on
know
that
kind
of
real
estate
that
has
become
kind
of
volatile
I
mean
there's
a
strong
word
just
trying
to
get
a
better
understanding
about.
M
You
know
where
we
are
going
in
the
housing
market
and
how
we
can
like
a
it
was
a
referencing
earlier
in
a
very
mixed-use
type
of
environment.
What
the
holistic
housing
strategy
might
look
yeah,
you
know
to
post
a
pandemic
and
God
forbid,
not
knowing
what
could
be
on
the
horizon
in
the
near
future.
We
are
we're
going
out
to
commit
for
25
years,
and
you
know
we
can
see.
Clearly
you
know
how
how
quickly
those
things
can
change.
So
my
questions
are
sincere.
M
I'm
just
trying
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
kind
of
commitments
we're
making
in
what
will
ultimately
receive
that.
M
Lots
and
lots
of
conversation,
but
it
just
went
yeah,
Antonio
and
opportunity
to
speak.
If
you
wish
to
do
so,
we
do
have
PNC
at
the
table
if
there's
something
that
I
missed,
that
you
wish
to
offer.
R
Thank
you,
councilman
I
I
think
everything
was
captured
very
appropriately
in
terms
of
the
approach.
The
rationale
as
well
as
the
the
commitment
from
the
city
to
the
Ura
was
reflected
very
appropriately,
so
at
this
stage
I
think
everything
was
contained
in
responses.
M
Just
wanting
to
have
some
level
of
some
level
of
assurance
and
we're
all
seeking
a
level
of
additional
insurance,
I
I
understand
that
that
the
hilltop
neighborhoods
well
I
I,
don't
mean
to
be
disrespectful
in
any
way,
but
that
they
won't
be
forgotten
in
the
process.
In
some
way-
and
you
know,
Oakland
and
Southside
Flats
largely
are,
you
know,
are
real
estate
healthy
pockets
in
this
city,
but
I
do
worry
about
Hilltop
neighborhoods
and
as
I
reference
back
to
capacity
to
develop
neighborhood
plans
and
those
kinds
of
things.
M
Funding
available
to
those
neighborhoods,
develop
neighborhood
plans
and
to
assistance
strategies
to
do
infill
housing
and
to
as
councilman
Burgess
likes
to
say,
good
development
hangs
on
good
development
and
and
how
we
can
you
know,
make
a
continuation
throughout
Hilltop
neighborhoods
that
they
they
come
up
as
men
of
Visionaries,
of
of
the
actions
that
we
may
take
today.
So.
S
I
think
councilman.
What
we
find
generally
speaking,
is
that,
with
relatively
limited
resources
dedicated
to
these
particular
needs
that
we
Face
the
the
difficult
and
unenviable
choice
of
funding
those
projects
that
are
most
fully
financed.
The
surest
bets,
if
you
will,
because
their
overall
package
of
financing
is
the
strongest
and
thus
the
Gap
that
we're
required
to
fill
as
public
agencies
is
the
smallest.
S
The
number
the
amount
of
funding
available
we
envision
being
able
to
meet
that
need
and
expand
Beyond
it
into
new
territory,
including
neighborhoods,
where
the
need
is
certainly
great
and
the
opportunities
are
abundant,
but
where
we've
not
previously
been
able
to
provide
support
for
lack
of
resources
and
the
need
to
focus
our
efforts
on
the
surest
bets.
I
I
think
that
Hilltop
communities
among
other
Pockets
within
the
city
are
among
those
places
that
could
benefit
greatly
from
having
that
broader
purview
to
spread
the
wealth.
If
you
will.
M
Appreciate
that
your
comments
director,
the
the
especially
especially
as
it
relates
to
restoration,
there's
some
really
magnificent
properties
throughout
the
hilltop
that
really
benefit
from
the
restoration
aspect
of
this
kind
of
a
Bond
funding
and
then
as
I
as
I
wind
down
and
leave
this
for
other
members.
I
do
want
to
take
a
moment
to
recognize
the
work
that
they
gave.
The
Administration
has
put
into
the
belt
server
school.
You
know
many
of
you.
M
Members
know
how
diligently
worked
on
that
that
project
over
probably
six
or
seven
years,
but
the
what
ultimately
brought
it
across
the
Finish
Line
was
the
supported
again
the
administration
to
take
that
out
for
funding
and
that
project
was
funded
and
we're
about
13
to
15
million
dollars
in
the
restoration
of
of
the
boat
super
school
and
infill
housing
that
will
popular
like
in
a
number
of
different
places
around
that
school
and
and
again
I
references,
husband,
Burgess,
often
says
for
the
development,
Angel
and
good
developments.
M
So
I
don't
want
to
leave
the
conversation
without
replying
that
there
has
not
been
consideration
and
contribution
to
those
neighborhoods,
I
guess,
maybe
I'm
just
being
a
little
bit
of
a
control
freak
as
I
exit
here
being
a
little
bit
worried
that
it
will
continue
and
that
people
that
I
know
and
love
and
call
friends.
You
know
after
16
years
you
can't.
You
know
you
can't
just
represent
constituency
without
thinking
as
Morris
friends
than
anything
else,
just
wanting
to
make
certain
that
they
are
okay
and
that
they
get
their
fair
share.
M
S
All
right,
yes,
the
the
the
needs
assessment
update
is
in
in
draft
form.
I
know,
sushila
mentioned
it.
It's
not
been
fully
finalized
or
published.
I
I
understand
that
councilman
Wilson
has
it,
as
in
his
capacity
as
chair
of
the
supervising
Committee
in
advance
of
its
full
release.
So
just
a
note
that
that
it
is
when
it
is
completely
finalized.
It
will
of
course
be
distributed
publicly
into
all
members.
O
Well,
I
want
the
councilman
to
distribute
it
to
members.
So
that's.
O
Okay,
that's
good
to
know,
because
part
of
what
I'd
like
to
know
is:
is
there
any
breakdown
in
student
housing,
the
requirements
or
the
number
of
people
that
are
students
that
that
are
on
the
waiting
list
for
affordable
housing?
They
may
know
if
that
breaks
down,
because
it's
my
understanding
there's
a
lot
of
people
on
the
list,
the
waiting
list
that
we're
saying
that
or
need
affordable
housing
that
are
students
and
so
I'm
kind
of
curious.
O
If
we're
building
housing
for
the
universities
that
we
can,
you
know,
get
upset
about
because
we're
not
paying
taxes
if
we're
helping
to
offset
that
by
building
housing.
So
I
want
to
know
if
there's
the
breakdown
of
students,
the
number
of
students
on
that
list
and
if
there's
not
I,
can
call
the
Realtors
and
get
it
because,
that's
my
understanding,
they've
done
it.
S
I
I
don't
want
to
comment
on
a
document
that's
not
yet
finalized
or
for
public
distribution
or
its
contents.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
are
not
directly
financially
supporting
the
construction
of
Student
Housing
Council
does
routinely
receive
zoning.
S
There
are
certainly
affordable
projects
that
the
city,
through
the
zoning
and
planning
review
process
considers
which
may
be
taken
advantage
of
by
students
and,
by
extension,
projects
that
the
Ura
financially
supports
where
students
might
find
housing
but
dedicated
student
housing
in
in
recent
years
has
been
solely
pursued
and
funded
by
University
applicants
with
their
own
resources
and
the
city's
action
is
in
providing
the
necessary
planning
approvals.
Not
financial
support.
O
I
see
a
number,
a
breakdown
of
that
and
I
think
overall
I
just
want
to
say,
I
think
that
most
of
us
are
concerned.
There's
a
lot
of
concerns
with
this
you're
asking
us
to
do
a
lot
here
and
I
think
we're
trying
to
do
this
in
a
way
to
work
with
the
administration
for
the
goals
that
they
would
like
to
accomplish.
O
So,
even
though
I'm
nervous
I
am
I,
am
supportive
and
will
vote
for
it,
but
I
just
I
just
mentioned
to
Reverend
I
said
when
I
keep
hearing
about
the
mixed
income,
housing
I
said:
I
understand
that
there's
a
need
for
mixed
income,
housing
and
I
do
understand
the
the
impact
it
has
on
people
when
you
just
have
concentrated
poverty.
I
understand
that,
but
a
part
of
me
it
hurts
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
poverty
that
was
on
Fifth
Avenue.
O
There
was
a
lot
of
poverty
that
was
up
in
the
Hill
district
and
we
destroyed
that
as
a
government
and
we
destroyed
what
was
there
being
pop
being
poor
doesn't
mean
you're,
bad
and
being
poor
doesn't
mean
you
shouldn't
have
to
live.
There's
lessons,
people
living
in
high
income,
housing
could
learn
from
poor
people,
and
so
it's
that
part,
that's
kind
of
like
I
feel
like
we
miss
it
a
little
bit
even
though
I
understand
the
reason.
O
I
understand
the
need,
it's
kind
of
hurtful
to
think
that
there's
people
that,
because
their
income,
maybe
they
feel
less
valued
by
us
because
of
things
like
this.
That's
all.
Thank
you.
U
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
We
well
you've
heard
quite
a
bit
already
and
I
wanted
to
have
our
can.
O
I
just
interrupt
you
real
quickly.
I
do
want
to
thank
councilwoman
gross
and
councilman
Lavelle,
which
is
I
wanted
to
do
it
initially
and
our
budget
office
and
our
amazing
solicitor
for
all
working
together
to
get
some
amendments
for
that
we
all
felt
and
the
council
was
a
body.
Everyone
here
had
pitched
in
at
some
point
to
get
us
to
a
better
place
and
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
working
together,
you're
amazing
people.
Thank
you.
U
I
do
I
do
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
detail
from
our
budget
office,
so
I
was
going
to
ask
Pete
McDevitt
if
he
could
join
us
at
the
table,
because
it's
important
for
both
the
public
to
understand
that
our
investment
in
affordable
housing
is
much
more
than
this
Bond
and
it's
actually
been
quite
significant,
the
amount
the
council
has
allocated
in
the
last
three
years,
at
least
so.
If
you
include
kind
of
2020
through
this
year,
Mr
McDevitt
I
had
Mr
McDevitt
pull
us
some
numbers
to
look
at
the
just
dollars.
U
The
council
has
moved
to
the
Ura
for
housing,
which
is
above
and
beyond
the
art
by
allocations
that
were
already
covered
in
this
discussion
with
councilman
krause's
questioning
of
director
Pollock.
So
Pete,
can
you
introduce
yourself
and
talk
about
some
of
the
numbers
that
you've
got
in
front
of
us
in
front
of
me
at
least
yes,.
G
Yeah
so
quickly
before
the
standing
committee
meeting
started
today,
I
took
a
look
at
the
capital
budgets
and
operating
budgets
from
2020
through
2023
and
excluding
the
47
million
in
arpa
funding,
there's
about
45
million
dollars
since
2020.
That
has
been
obligated
to
the
Ura
for
housing
projects.
U
Selling
those
two
amounts
together
right,
and
so,
if
you
add
the
40
or
so
million
of
the
arpa
funds,
plus
the
other
sources
of
funds
are
things
like
cdbg
other
pay
go
other
HUD
funding
and
of
course
it's
been
10
million
dollars
per
year
from
the
Housing
Opportunity
fund,
which
is
also
out
of
our
general
fund
and
will
continue
to
be
10
million
a
year
and
so
2020
through
2023
already
adds
up
to
93
million,
171,
000
or
so
and
so
adding
moving
forward
from
today.
U
U
U
Our
pay
go
funds
would
be
the
most
patient
parts
of
this
probably,
and
we
know
that
the
arpa
funds
have
an
expiration
date,
and
then
we
know
that
the
bond
funds
we've
been
told
are
I'm,
not
sure
how
binding
that
is
for
you
all,
but
the
goal
was
to
spend
it
in
the
next
three
to
four
years.
I
think
is
what
we've
said
or
what
what
we've
been
told
director.
S
Sure
a
couple
different
timelines
to
articulate
there
in
both
the
k
just
to
answer
your
questions,
maybe
generally
about
timelines
as
it
relates
to
cdbg
funds,
given
the
federal
requirements
in
our
various
look
back
periods
and
Reporting
requirements,
we're
generally
required
even
for
those
projects
that
are
committed
to
capital
projects
to
spend
them
within
about
six
years.
In
the
same
vein,
we
look
ideally
to
spend
City
General
obligation
bond
funds
within
six
years.
S
U
So
again,
every
everything
is
kind
of
coming
down
to
2026,
then
right
so
the,
for
example,
the
2020
cdbg
for
Housing
Development
was
about
2.6.
The
2021
cdbg
was
3.4
million,
so
that
adds
up,
if
you
add
in
the
4
million
from
cdbg
for
2022
and
the
3
million
from
cdbg
for
2023
all
under
the
rubric
Housing
Development
to
the
ra.
You
know
that
line
itself
is
13
million.
U
U
So
it's
I
think
both
important
for
the
public
and
and
Council
to
understand
that
again,
this
is
all
money
that
Council
has
appropriated
to
the
Ura
all
of
them.
U
You
know
the
the
titles
are
things
like
we
heard
about
Land
Trust
housing
for
affordable
units
for
phdc,
the
larimar
Choice
Awards,
of
course,
the
Housing
Opportunity
fund,
of
course
office
space
conversion,
the
preservation
programs
we
just
heard
about
which
is
preserving
currently
affordable
housing,
so
that
it
doesn't
flip
back
to
market
rate
or
flip
to
market
rate,
and
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
were
said.
Like
current
programs,
the
bond
would
also
kind
of
be
spread
across.
U
C
R
C
S
While
Evan's
joining
us
I'll
note
that
that
about
80
percent
obligation
rate,
which
includes
both
funds
expended
or
funds
under
contract
for
a
project
that
may
not
have
drawn
them
yet,
is
consistent
with
omb's
records.
Around
funds
transferred
to
the
URI.
U
S
Funds
are
that
they
are
not
specific
projects
that
the
product
that
the
entity
advancing
the
project
is
typically
building
something
and
then
requesting
reimbursement
from
those
funds
with
invoices
that
have
they
have
already
paid.
And
so
we
have
funds
set
aside
that
are
approved
waiting
for
completion
of
milestones
in
order
to
transfer
them.
But
those
funds
are
as
close
to
spent
as
they
can
be
without
actually
being
spent,
but
certainly
well
committed
and
underway
for
a
particular
purpose.
W
Over
the
last
three
years
the
Pennsylvania
Housing
Finance
Agency
is
awarded
on
average
about
five
latex
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
projects
in
the
city,
and
each
project
requires
Gap
financing
from
the
Ura,
typically
in
an
amount
between
1.2
million
and
sometimes
up
to
two
million
dollars,
so
that
they're
an
incredible
way
to
generate
production.
But
they
are
certainly
a
strain
on
our
finances,
but
in
a
positive
way.
That
yields
a
positive
outcome.
U
U
My
district
has
benefited
from
a
light
tech
deal
that
had
50
units
they're,
usually
around
50
units
right
for
senior
housing,
another
one
that
had
preference
for
veterans,
housing
people
might
know
the
pen
of
Matilda
and
then
a
third
which
preferences
for
people
with
disabilities,
which
is
we
just
had
the
ribbon
cutting
last
year
at
on
Butler
Street
or
the
Doughboy,
so
all
located
in
neighborhoods
of
opportunity,
most
mostly
near
bus
lines
and
and
other
kind
of
community
assets.
How
about
this
pipeline.
W
I
think
you've
you've
touched
on
what
a
lot
of
the
highlights
of
some
of
these
other
projects
have
been.
Just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we
were
in
the
West
End
for
the
opening
or
the
groundbreaking
for
a
senior
development
called
Cedarwood
homes.
We've
had
other
projects
that
are
the
Adaptive
reuse
of
former
schools.
One
of
them
is
the
belt
super
School
in
District
3,
as
well
as
the
recently
closed
leche
school
project
in
the
Hill
district.
So
we're
seeing
a
wide
array
of
new
construction,
also
Rehabilitation.
W
We
recently
had
a
ribbon
cutting
for
the
project
on
North
Negley
called
the
Carina,
which
takes
the
old
synagogue
located
near
negli
and
Rural.
So
the
the
LIE
Tech
program
unlocks
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
developers
to
receive
additional
credits
or
additional
preference
for
going
above
and
beyond,
and
trying
to
enhance
the
housing
options
that
are
here
in
the
city
and
really
we.
It
helps
to
further
the
ura's
mission
in
the
city's
Mission
as
well.
U
Thank
you.
So,
while
there's
significant
funds
on
the
street,
we
think
maybe
80
or
at
the
Ura
80
of
them
may
be
obligated
to
current
programs
or
to
actual
projects
already,
even
if
the
the
public
hasn't
been
able
to
see
them
or
get
on
a
waiting
list
for
the
units-
and
they
are
not
just
light
tech
deals,
but
there
are
again
there's
a
lot
of
dollars
in
the
pipeline:
around
preservation,
office,
space
conversion,
Community,
Land,
Trust,
there's
one:
that's
for
sale,
home
ownership,
but
I'm
assuming
that's,
not
construction.
It's
at
13!
W
That
is
one
of
the
arpa
lines:
apologies
for
interrupting
that's
the
own
PGH
home
ownership
program,
which
provides
deferred
financing
to
aspiring
home
buyers
that
are
below
80
percent
of
the
area.
Median
income.
U
Okay
and
so
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
director
McDevitt,
who
only
had
a
couple
of
chance
to
to
chime
in
there
is
there,
were
you
able
to
to
kind
of
concur
that
these
funds,
whether
or
not
you
were
having
a
hard
time
from
your
side
of
the
City
budget,
access
to
see
if
what
had
been
expended
and
what
had
not
been
expended.
G
Yeah,
just
looking
at
the
JD
Edwards
system,
while
studying
in
council
chambers
I
had
a
little
bit
of
limitations,
but
it
did
look
like.
There
was
at
least
from
the
last
quarterly
arpa
spending
report
that
the
Office
of
Management
and
budget
put
out
that
was
in
March
31st,
so
I
think
it
was
110.
000
had
been
spent
and
it
does
look
like
some
additional
funding
has
been
committed
to
the
Ura
since
then,
but
I
wasn't
able
to
identify
exactly
what
that
was
for.
A
D
S
Yeah
FMA
just
to
clarify
my
my
earlier
point
and
I
believe
director
Damani
stanger's
point.
The
80
obligation
figure
relates
to
the
cdbgf
the
non-arpa
allocations
over
that
time
period.
So
so
the
C,
the
the
cdbg
home
and
other
funds
that
have
been
appropriated
and
expended
of
the
total
65.9
million
in
arpa,
again
only
46
million
of
which
is
actually
in
reference
to
housing.
S
So
that
is
a
smaller
percentage
and
reflects
just
sort
of
the
both
the
timing
of
our
agreements
and
the
structure
of
those
agreements
which
typically
provide
partial
funding
upon
agreement,
execution
and
further
draws
as
projects
advance.
So
I.
Imagine
what
director
mcdivitt
is
seeing
is
transfers
from
the
arbitrust
fund
to
the
Ura,
but
they
would
not
be
reflective
of
the
entire
amount
approved
for
the
Ura
because
we're
making
those
payments
and
installments
as
work
advances
of
that
21.9.
S
The
Bure
has
obligated
6.8
with
further
projects
I'm
sure
in
the
pipeline,
but
not
yet
approved
by
the
board
and
fully
dispersed
5.7.
So
so
those
funds
have
begun
to
move.
Funds
have
begun
to
move
from.
Certainly,
funds
have
been
approved
through
the
execution
process
and
initial
payments
have
been
transferred
to
the
ra
they're,
then
in
step
with
that
moving
projects
through
the
pipeline
to
disbursement.
S
But
it
is
fair
to
say
that
the
among
arpa
funds
that
it's
not
80
percent,
it's
about
30
percent,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we
have
executed
agreements
for
50.3
million
of
the
65,
so
the
vast
majority
is
eligible
for
transfer
and
is
basically
we're
moving
those
funds
and
installments
as
deals
progress.
So
the
the
the
the
the
broader
number
was
reference
in
reference
to
cdbg
funds,
not
arpa
funds.
U
Thank
you.
It's
a
condition
in
the
housing
bond
for
the
Ura
to
do
reporting
to
council.
We
also
do
get
our
quarterly
reports
that
are
kind
of
I
mean
you
can
click
more
on
them
for
a
little
more
detail,
but
they
in
their
great
graphics
but
I
think
we
don't
want
to
run
the
risk
of
having
several
different
sets
of
reports
without
having
a
kind
of
comprehensive,
integrated
understanding
of
how
the
parts
are
fitting
together.
U
This
today
vote
today
could
be
in
the
range
of
25
to
40
million
additional.
We
know
that
we've
already
committed
the
Housing
Opportunity
funds.
Each
annual
occasion
coming
up
in
the
next
three
years
will
be
in
another
10
million
per
year,
and
the
public
kind
of
I
think
deserves
to
not
have
to
dig
around
too
badly
too
much
to
find
out
kind
of
like
what
is
the
progress.
Where
are
these
projects
going?
U
How
do
these
pots
of
money
fit
together,
so
I
think
that's
work
that
that
will
be
in
front
of
us
as
we
kind
of
continue
to
to
see
these
projects
come
to
fruition
and
and
talk
about
them
here
at
Council,
but
I'll.
Thank
you.
All
for
kind
of
filling
in
I
think
a
little
some
of
those
details
and
that's
all
I
have
namasters
here.
T
Hours
late,
first
of
all,
let
me
let
me
be
from
the
very
beginning
register
it
I
vote.
I'll,
ask
maybe
two
three
questions
and
then
I'll
say
two
or
three
sentences
and
I'm
done
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
is
most
of
the
development
that's
occurring
in
Pittsburgh,
affordable
housing.
S
T
Period
is
the
majority
of
development
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
affordable
housing?
No,
is
it
close?
No,
that
is
the
bulk
of
development.
Right
now
is
private
equity
and
Millville,
and
I
councilman
Lavell
Nash
showed
a
report
that
those
do
not
go
in
African-American
communities.
Ninety
percent
of
that
money
does
not
go
into
African-American
communities
if
Council
and
the
government
did
not
support
affordable
housing
in
African-American
communities.
What
would
happen
to
development
in
those
communities?
Would
they
occur
mostly
we'll.
T
T
This
is
great,
and
so
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
and
we're
not
talking
about
there's,
no
there's
no
discussion
of
how
much
market
rate
housing
is
being
built
in
our
city
at
tremendous
rates,
and
you
know,
comes
from
gross
complaints
about
it,
but
I
I
will
take
her
problem.
Give
me
you
know
60
70
percent
of
the
development
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
in
my
Council
district
and
I'll,
laugh
all
the
way
to
the
bank
right
out
to
out
doesn't
matter
I'll.
Take
that
too
right
I'll
take
it.
T
We
have
to
do
this.
This
is
our
moral
imperative.
Some
people
are
gracious
enough
to
say
that
I'm,
along
with
councilman
Lavelle,
perhaps
it's
our
architect,
or
at
least
the
person
who
start
talking
about
this
first
and
so
there
are
three
things:
I
would
say
about
it
and
I'll
register
my
vote
and
Let
It
Go.
There
are
three
things
from
the
very
beginning:
I've
articulated
beside
this
bothering
so
I
want
to
at
least
put
this
on
the
record
and
hope
that
you
think
about
it.
T
One
is
that
my
number
is
closer
to
100
million
dollars.
I've
been
arguing
that
we
need
a
hundred
million
dollars
of
borrowing,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
take
whatever
this
number
is.
In
my
mind
this
is
not
a
one-time
event,
but
this
is
the
first
of
a
series
of
events
to
get
us
to
about
100
million
dollars,
so
I'm
thinking
over
the
next,
probably
10
15
years.
Some
number
like
that,
we'll
get
to
that.
100
million
dollar
borrowing
amount.
You
know
in
maybe
three
to
four
years.
T
T
We
was
careful
to
make
it
Citywide
and
to
make
it
in
the
business
districts
and
with
the
evidence
of
hope,
you
get
the
double
bang.
You
not
only
get
affordable
housing
or
makes
income
housing.
You
get
business
districts
and
when
a
councilman
were
were
blessed
enough
to
meet
with
President
Biden
privately,
that's
the
thing
he
told
us
to
emphasize
was
this
hormone.
This
business
development
in
neighborhoods
and
avenues
of
Hope
will
give
you
that
double
bang.
T
So
not
only
will
you
build
affordable
housing,
but
you
will
because
of
the
way
you
can
do
it
in
terms
of
subsidizing
underneath
it,
businesses
you'll,
get
the
the
double
advantage
of
not
only
building
mixed
income
neighborhoods
but
of
putting
business
districts.
Rebuilding
the
business
districts
and
the
third
thing-
and
that's
just
in
my
advice,
I
mean
I,
think
you
know
this
already
and
and
our
thoughts
this
would
be
the
last
in
not
the
first
ten
dollars
right.
This
would
be
Gap
financing
money
that
this
would
be.
T
You
know
if
you,
if
you
spend
this
money
on
four
percent
deals,
it'll
be
gone
in
three
or
four
deals
right,
because
those
would
have
like
four
15
million
gaps,
a
piece,
so
you
know
two
or
three
of
those
and
it's
gone,
but
that
this
would
be
leveraged
to
use
all
developable
resources
and
that
it
would
be
the
last
in,
and
so
that's
my
thinking,
I
will
be
supportive
and
I've
spent
my
life,
not
just
on
Council
I
spend
my
life
trying
to
rebuild
black
families.
T
Strengthened
black
individuals
rebuild
like
communities.
It
just
has
nothing
to
do
with
me
being
on
Council.
This
is
my
life
and
so,
whether
I'm
one
counselor
or
not,
it
doesn't
matter
I'm
going
to
be
spending
until
I'm.
You
know
in
glory,
god
called
me
to
be
a
witness
and
to
argue
for
black
people,
specifically
black
families,
the
places
they
live.
T
It
has
everything
to
do
with
with
my
calling
and
what
I
believe
is
right
and
just
the
Bible
talks
about
what
you
do
to
the
least
of
these
right
and
that
we
need
to
prioritize
the
least
of
them
in
the
least
of
these
neighborhoods
and
so
I
support
one
I
support
this
endeavor
I
look
forward
to
doing
even
more
in
the
future.
That's
that
wasn't
briefly.
K
D
S
Let
me
just
again
briefly
clarify
you:
can
direct
your
councilman,
your
question
to
whoever
you
like
councilman,
but
just
for
the
sake
of
clarity.
Pnc
is
the
financial
advisor
and
Lead
underwriter
for
the
Ura
right
and
Andrew
is
the
bond
counsel
for
the
Ura,
because
it
would
be
the
Ura
issuing
the
debt
as
it
relates
to
the
city's
Financial
impact
and
obligation
here,
because
the
agreement
is
not
directly
obligate
the
city
to
the
debt.
K
S
And-
and
therein
lies
my
point-
the
fiscal
impact
to
the
city
based
on
the
structure
of
the
deal
is
solely
related
to
the
impact
on
the
annual
operating
budget
transfers
and
the
reserve
fund.
That
is
not
a
debt
obligation
of
the
city,
so
so
the
the
ura's
financial
team
can
speak
to
the
market
conditions
in
which
the
Ura
is
entering
the
market,
but
the
city
is
not
directly
exposed
to
those
market
conditions
by
solely
by
approving
this
item,.
K
No
I
understand
that
nonetheless,
I
have
the
questions
regarding
and
I'm
allowed
to
ask
those
to
these.
Just
for
the
public
record.
Yeah
appreciate
that
so
just
to
clarify
this.
For
me
we
are
going
to
investors
and
I,
don't
know
who
to
direct
this
question
to
I
would
think
Antonio
or
Andrew
we're
going
to
investors
saying
the
Ura
is
going
to
the
investors
saying
we
are
going
to
finance
62.5
million
dollars.
K
We
are
now.
We
can't
get
a
figure
back
from
them
as
to
what
amount
they
the
principal
amount
will
be.
They
might
say:
oh
we'll
lend
you
30
million.
We
will
lend
you
40
million
and
we
might
say
25
million
right.
So
we
won't
know
that
answer
until
it
goes
to
Market.
Is
that
right?
That's
correct,
okay,
so
we're
not
committing
by
any
means.
If,
if
we
take
out
a
62.5
million
dollar
loan-
and
they
say
oh
we'll,
give
you
a
20
million
dollars-
certainly
that's
not
satisfactory
for
anybody.
S
Right,
the
Ura
board
would
have
an
option
not
to
execute
on
the
agreement
at
that
time
if
these
funds
are
pledged
via
this
agreement.
That
provides
me
an
opportunity
if
you'll
permit
me
councilman
to
also
mention
a
provision
that
we
intend
to
include
in
The
Cooperative
agreement
not
directly
related
to
your
question,
but
let's
say
that.
Let's
say
that
the
number
is
sufficient
for
the
Ura
board
to
move
forward
with
the
borrowing
at
a
certain
interest
rate
and
then,
in
future
years,
better
interest
rates.
Prevail.
S
We
intend
in
The
Cooperative
agreement
to
reserve
that,
where
the
Ura
to
refinance
the
bond
basically
get
a
better
rate
on
that
debt
in
a
future
year
that
the
proceeds
would
either
as
first
priority,
the
savings
would
be
plowed
back
into
the
program,
thereby
increasing
the
amount
of
benefit
and
in
a
scenario
where
that's
not
feasible,
say
it
happens
in
year,
23
of
25
and
the
amount
accrued
is
not.
You
know
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
plow
back
in
that.
S
K
S
In
the
early
outset,
period
I
would
imagine,
but
for
the
for
the
sake
of
General
argument,
yes,
so.
K
C
K
K
S
Bond
taxable
bonds
are
more
expensive
as
it
relates
to
interest
the
the
the
inverse
value
of
them
is
that,
with
a
with
a
plan
like
the
one
that
the
URI
has
to
allocate
the
funds
as
applications
come
in
over
a
three-year
period,
then
we
it
provides
the
flexibility
to
support
projects
as
they
enter
the
application
pool,
rather
than
having
to
have
them
fully
articulated
up
front.
For
example,
the
city
issues
tax-exempt
debt,
because
when
we
do
so,
we
do
so
to
support
an
already
appropriated
Capital
plan.
S
Tony
can
can
confirm
conditions
as
of
today,
but
when
we
spoke
on
Friday,
he
articulated
that
the
spread
between
taxable
and
tax
exempt
is
currently
smaller
than
or
rather
that
those
two
rates
are
closing
in
on
each
other.
In
either
case,
the
credit
rating
of
the
Ura
is
strong
and
thus
supportive
of
a
favorable
interest
rate,
even
in
a
taxable
position.
K
R
We
will
show
throughout
the
process
this
spread
between
prevailing
tax-exempt,
Municipal
Bond
rates
and
taxable
Municipal
Bond
rates
to
show
the
difference
and
again
it's
more
of
the
flexibility
and
the
use
of
the
proceeds
that
is
driving
that
status,
that
tax
status
of
fully
federally
taxable
bonds
versus
federally
tax-exempt
municipal
bonds
and
just
a
point
of
clarification
there.
There
are
buyers
for
both.
There
are
distinct
investors
that
look
for
10
bonds
and
investors
that
look
for
tax
exempt
Bond
funding
from
municipalities,
so
the
market
does
exist
on
both
sides
of
the
tax
status.
K
Good-
and
this
is
Antonio-
correct,
okay,
Antonio,
you
know
being
that
it's
a
refinanceable
or
callable
Bond.
Does
that
also
increase
the
rate.
R
Call
feature
on
a
municipal
Bond
right
now
that
does
not
increase
the
rate.
If
you
would
seek
out
a
non-callable
bond
that
would
lock
in
rates
to
investors
for
term
investors
do
actually
offer
a
little
better
rates
because
they
know
the
bonds
will
not
be
refunded
from
them.
But
again
that
would
take
away
the
flexibility
of
refinancing
from
the
issuer.
K
Okay,
thank
you,
Antonia
that
settles
as
far
as
the
bond
issue
goes
for
me
again.
It's
not
that
I
disagree
that
we
have
a
shortage
of
17
000
units.
It's
not
that
I
feel
like
there.
I
don't
feel
like
there's
a
emergency
crisis
for
affordable
housing.
K
Councilman
gross
alluded
to
it
earlier
the
money
that
we
currently
have
10
million
per
year
from
affordable
housing
act
to
the
70
million,
albeit
not
going
into
the
same
categories
and
I,
understand
that
and
then
to
throw
in
you
know
a
sixty
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
Bond.
At
this
point,
it's
more
again
a
philosophical
difference
for
me:
I
can't
justify
it's
getting
possibly
25
million
dollars
and
spending
30
million
dollars
or
50
million
dollars
in
interest.
It's
just
unfeasible
to
me,
I,
just
can't
I
just
wait.
Let
me
finish
and.
K
But
you
know,
I
would
much
rather
have
preferred.
I
would
vote
for
committing
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
payment
that
we're
committed
to
anyway
over
the
next
10
years
we
have
no
debt
and
we
have
25
million
dollars,
we're
putting
towards
it
the
hand
on
top
of
the
10
million
we
have
coming
in
from
the
housing
fund,
and
you
know
other
funding
sources
that
we
have
still
I
believe
even
the
land
bank
could
be
tied
into
this
in
some
some
fashion,
but
you
know
to
again:
do
we
need
this
big
cash
influx?
K
D
K
Know,
or
do
we
need
it
at
a
faster
rate?
Do
we
need
this
lump
some
money
right
away?
Is
that
the
argument
here.
C
There's
a
significant
demand
for
affordable
housing
and
I
think
that
if
we
look
at
the
age
of
our
structures
alone,
we
have
structured
homes
and
buildings,
multi-family
buildings
that
are
80
to
120
years
old,
they
have
reached
their
useful
life.
We
are
seeing
significant
demand
if
anyone
here
owns
a
home
80
to
100
years
old.
We,
you
know
you
know
so
so
it's
that,
coupled
with
the
need
to
build
the
supply,
25.
S
P
K
S
This
dead
every
year,
not
not
no
more,
no
one
will
propose
it
annually.
I
I
think
that
we
are
depending
on
prevailing
market
conditions,
and
the
success
rate
here
would
be
willing
to
consider
to
come
back
to
Council
in
three
years
and
discuss
this
topic
again
once
these
funds
are.
W
S
30
million
over
three
years,
just
as
an
example,
would
mean,
in
a
an
additional
10
million
per
year,
focused
on
the
production
of
units
that
will
have
affordability,
restrictions
on
them
for
40
years
and
we'll
have
25
years
to
pay
that
back.
That
means
that
the
last
15
years
of
that
affordability,
we'll
think
about
when
you,
if
you
pay
your
car
off
in
five
years
and
you
keep
it
for
10
years,
then
the
last
five
years
you
own
it
for
free.
S
Of
course
you
have
maintenance
costs
and
other
things
right,
but
so
so
we
would.
We
would
have
free
and
clear
affordability
for
a
15-year
period
between
the
bond
repayment
period
and
the
and
and
the
end
of
the
affordability
restriction.
In
the
meantime,
we
have
all
of
those
units
within
three
years,
as
opposed
to
taking
10
years,
to
build
them
right,
so
we
can
actually
catch
up
on
the
demand,
lag
and.
K
Yeah
I
understand
that
now,
when
you
say
we'll
have
those
units
we're
funding
programming
and
we
can
count
units
with
programming.
So
whatever
program
we
fund
I,
don't
know
10
different
ones,
five
different
ones,
I,
don't
know
what
what's
in
plan
here,
we
will
be
able
to
account
units.
Is
that
right.
C
S
S
E
S
K
W
Yeah
there
will
be
discrete
measures
of
how
many
units
were
in
any.
W
Yes,
yes,
so
last
year
in
2022,
we
produced
511
units
throughout
our
suite
of
programs.
E
W
I
think,
if
you're
thinking
about
visibility
and
people
in
the
community,
our
homeowner
assistance
program
which
helps
low-income
existing
homeowners,
make
necessary
repairs
to
their
homes.
That's
one
of
our
most
popular
programs.
We
certainly
have
the
most
some
of
the
most
clients
compared
to
our
other
programs
through
that
long
waiting
list
as
well.
W
So
that's
another
benefit
of
this
is
that,
as
we
have
more
funding
available,
possibly
for
the
development-facing
initiatives
that
maybe
we
don't
have
to
close
the
application
process
for
say
this
homeowner
assistance
program
and
can
keep
that
running
for
at
least
longer
throughout
the
year
and
turn
out
more
clients
in
a
given
year.
In.
S
Either
case
those
concrete
measures
are
already
available
in
the
uras
existing
quarterly
and
annual
reports,
so
they're
already
measuring
the
production
of
those
programs
and
by
it
providing
additional
capitalization
to
those
programs.
Those
existing
reports
would
reflect
the
increased
capacity
through
these
Investments
one.
R
Councilman
fee
wise-
and
you
know
again
that
would
be
determined
upon
when
the
potential
refinancing
issuance
went
into
the
marketplace,
but
on
average
just
similar
to
the
city's
direct
Geo
indentedness,
your
you
know,
you're,
somewhere
of
around
one
percent
of
total
fees
on
a
bond
issuance
in
terms
of
all
of
the
service
providers
of
entering
the
capital
markets.
K
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
So
again,
it's
more
philosophical
for
me.
I
I
just
can't
understand
what
spending
30
million
to
get
30
to
go
into
that
60
million
so
I'd,
rather
us
and
again
I
know
we
want
to.
We.
K
The
the
urgency
of
it
all
and
I
hear
it
from
everybody
and
every
you
know,
person
that
sits
at
the
stable.
However,
I
think
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
a
year
on
top
of
what
we
already
are
supplying
should
be
sufficient
for
to
at
least
get
us
moving.
You
know,
I
just
I,
just
can't
I
just
can't
go
30
million
dollars
in
debt
for
a
loan
of
25
million
or
whatever
the
figures
are
so
so.
K
R
So
and
the
Ura
will
know
that
you
know
the
prevailing
conditions
and
what
the
potential
pricing
would
look
like
well
in
advance
of
the
actual
formal
pricing
date
when
any
bonds
are
offered
to
the
marketplace
and
investors.
So
they'll
they'll
know
in
advance
that
the
you
know
where
rates
are
what
the
estimated
proceeds
being
generated
from
the
prevailing
market
conditions.
Would
it
be,
and
so
there
there's
definitely
time
period
or
consideration
ahead
of
any
formalization
and
pricing
or
agreements.
K
To
a
bond
purchase
agreement,
thank
you,
Antonio,
and
when
that
time
does
come,
it
will
be
just
the
Ura
board
that
votes,
whether
to
take
that
loan
or
not
correct
okay.
What
about
dispersions?
Now,
if
say,
we
get
40
million
dollars
on
a
high
end.
The
URI
decides
to
give
15
million
or
10
million
to
a
program.
Does
that
have
to
be
approved
by
Council.
S
No,
the
Amendments
that
Council
has
already
adopted,
articulate
areas
of
priority,
and
it
requires
that
within
90
days
of
definitive
pricing
that
the
Ura
produce
a
report
outlining
those
dispersals.
But
neither
those
those
areas
of
focus
are,
as
council
person
gross
articulated
in
her
opening
comments
established
as
goals,
not
firm
requirements
consistent
with
the
tax
exempt
offering,
and
that
report
detailing
the
allocation
across
programs
would
be
provided
to
council,
essentially
as
a
communication
for
informational
purposes,
but
not
subject
to
council
approval.
K
If
it
comes
back,
we
get
40
million
for
62
and
a
half
I'm
fine
with
it
and
that's
part
of
the
problem.
For
me,
this
is
vague
if
we
were
getting
30
million.
That's
not
fine
with
that.
So
that's
why
I
can't
support
it
today,
but
hopefully
you'll
get
to
high
end
and
we'll
be
able
to
put
those
dollars
to
use
right
away.
A
Thank
you
any
further
discussion
before
going
to
the
second
round
and
I
believe
councilman
cross.
If
not
I'll,
be
brief,
because
the
hour
is
long,
I'll
simply
say
one
for
the
Public's
Clarity.
We
are
not
going
into
debt.
We
are
simply
providing
the
Ura
with
a
2.5
million
dollar
payment
every
year,
which,
just
for
all
our
Clarity
is
less
than
a
half
a
percent
of
our
budget
right.
A
So
we're
not
actually
talking
about
a
lot
of
money
which
is
actually
part
of
the
problem
to
be
quite
Frank
that
we're
the
demand
and
the
need
is
around
100
million
and
we're
debating.
If
is
30
enough
right,
so
there's
a
disconnect
there.
A
The
other
thing
I
will
simply
say
as
it
relates
to
is
this
a
wise
use
of
City
financing.
There's
also
another
conversation
that
we're
not
having
because
I
haven't
seen
the
needs
assessment.
Bobby
did
send
it
out
as
we're
all
sitting
here,
but
the
prior
one
said
there
was
a
shortage
of
17.
Some
thousand
units
of
affordable
housing
I
expect
the
new
needs
assessment
to
come
in,
saying,
there's,
probably
a
shortage
of
somewhere
between
12
and
14.
A
You
may
know
the
actual
number
I
don't
but
part
of
the
reason
that
exists
and
I'm,
assuming
that
needs
assessment
is
going
to
show.
This
is
that
our
city
continues
to
lose
population,
because
our
residents
can
afford
to
stay
here
and
forget
the
30
million
we're
potentially
talking
about.
If
we
begin
to
dip
below
certain
numbers,
we
will
begin
losing
Federal
resources.
A
All
those
add
up
in
many
different
ways
when
we
come
to
the
table
and
councilman
cockhill
I'm
sure
you'll.
Do
it
again
this
year,
when
you
ask
for
more
money
for
demolition
as
opposed
to
investing
those
dollars
into
units
that
could
be
being
rehabbed
for
affordable
housing
opportunities,
so
there's
another
cost
that
comes
with
us,
not
making
this
investment
I
think
we
have
to
consider
that
as
well,
that
eats
at
our
budget
every
single
year,
Public
Safety
gets
affected,
like
all
these
other
costs
are
associated
with
us,
not
investing
in
our
housing
stock.
S
Director,
just
briefly
you
you,
you
fairly
encapsulated
the
findings
of
the
still
draft
report.
In
that
it
indicates,
demand
remains
High.
The
the
unit
need
slightly
lower,
not
as
a
result
of
us
chipping
having
chipped
away
at
the
problem,
but
rather
the
displacement
of
low-income
residents
exceeding
the
rate
at
which
affordable
units
are
provided.
S
A
Thank
you
second
round
councilman
cross.
Did
you
want
to
get
back
in.
M
Only
to
repeat
I
am
struggling
I
do
understand
the
the
importance
of
what
is
before
us.
I
wasn't
sure
I
would
vote
the
affirmative
today.
I
never
stayed
on
the
bill,
but
today
I
am
going
to
vote
in
the
affirmative,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
I
don't
want
to
continue
conversation.
So
director,
Pollock,
I,
think
you
and
I
may
have
some
further
discussions
ahead
about
us
anytime.
A
M
The
leadership
of
really
every
member
here
you
know
in
that
in
this,
and
and
really
want
to
do
the
right
thing
and
provide
for
the
housing
stock
that
clearly
we
understand
that
we
need
them
to
do
it
in
the
most
fiscally
responsible
amount
of
that
we
can
so
I
appreciate
everybody's
work
on
this.
N
Yeah
I,
just
very
briefly
and
I'm
supportive
I
mean
I
I
will
say:
I
would
like
to
just
a
small
language
issue,
but
again
I'm
I'm
voting,
yes,
but
is
that
in
section
three,
just
where
it
says
shall
include
language
that
addresses
certain
conditions?
I
would
prefer
it
to
say
that
requires
certain
conditions.
It
just
you
know
at
any
rate,
but
just
for
the
general
conversation
and
I
absolutely
appreciate
what
councilman
Burgess
was
saying
about
bringing
development
to
black
and
brown
communities.
N
You
know
encouraging
that
development,
where
there
isn't
development
and
that's,
of
course,
very
important.
I
have
that
issue
in
my
district
as
well,
but
at
the
same
time,
just
in
terms
of
the
segregation
in
our
city,
I
would
also
like
I
I
would
encourage
the
urd
to
also.
N
You
know
I'm
very
glad
to
see
that
that
that
development
happening
in
Squirrel
Hill.
So
as
someone
with
with
both
both
types
of
neighborhoods
in
my
district
I,
I,
really
think
it's
a
mix
and
yeah
I
think
so
thanks.
That's
all
for
me.
A
A
Text
message:
meeting
announcements
next
week,
Council
will
hold
regular
meeting
on
Tuesday
July
11th
at
10
A.M,
and
our
standing
committee
meeting
on
Wednesday
July
12th
at
10
A.M
speaker
registration
will
close
at
9
A.M
the
day
of
the
meeting
call
the
clerk's
office
255-2138
to
register
anything
from
Members
councilman
strasberger.
Thank.
O
L
Why
don't
they
broaden
it
just
for
the
sake
of
flexibility,
so,
while
all
men,
what
I
just
proposed,
if
that's
still
timely
and
I'll,
say
I'll
call
for
our
motion
to
to
call
for
a
post-agenda
hearing
on
various
Water
and
Sewer
utilities
and
rate
increases.
L
M
Second,
with
very
brief
discussion
discussion,
so
cotswana,
thank
you,
the
you
know
this
is
this
is
vastly
approach
approaching
and
there
are
suggestions
that
rate
as
much
as
double
and
that's
a
terrifying
thought
for
everyone
that
we
represent
so
because,
when
this
is
very
timely
and
I'm
I'm
glad
you
called
for
it
and
I
am
more
than
happy
to
participate.
Thank
you
thanks.
A
N
Yeah
sure
so
District
Five
office
has
a
new
intern
tonight.