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From YouTube: Pittsburgh City Council Interviews - 6/1/23
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Disruptive Properties, Housing Authority Board of Directors, & Commission on Human Relations
A
B
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
pre-agenda
interview
for
the
interviews
for
Thursday
June,
1st
2023.,
we
have
two
appointments
for
the
disruptive
properties,
appeals
board,
one
appointment
for
the
Housing,
Authority
board
of
directors
and
four
appointments
to
the
commission
on
human
relations,
and
we
are
joined
today
by
councilwoman,
Barbara,
Warwick
and
other
members
may
join
us
later.
Is
anyone
online
no
one's
online?
Yet
okay
and
we're
going
to
begin
with
the
commission
on
human
relations,
Madam
Clerk.
B
Thank
you
and
we'll
begin
with
you.
When
you
can
each
say
a
little
bit
about
yourselves
and
what
what
you
think
might
you
might
be
able
to
do
on
the
commission
or
what
you're
looking
forward
to
doing
on
the
commission
and
if
you
have
nothing
to
say
just
say
at
least
identify
yourself
to
the
public
knows
which,
which
one
you
are
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
councilman
warwickford
questions
you.
E
F
Hello,
thank
you,
madam
president,
councilman
Warwick
for
having
us
today.
My
name
is
Genevieve
rossellow
I'm
from
the
north
side
of
Pittsburgh,
but
I
am
a
Lifeline.
Pittsburgher
I
know
firsthand
what
can
happen
when
someone
advocates
for
you,
I
have
grown
up.
I
grew
up
in
McKees,
Rocks
and
I
have
just
lived
all
around
the
city
and
I've
seen
our
city
change
from
the
times
when
my
grandparents
were
had
immigrated
here
to
now
and
I.
F
Think
that
there's
a
lot
more,
that
we
can
do
and
I'm
excited
to
be
a
part
of
that
I've
been
working
with
some
of
our
Deni
groups
in
my
at
my
firm
with
advancing
some
of
the
equity
across
our
our
environment
and
then
also
with
the
League
of
Women
Voters
for
the
past
several
years,
making
sure
that
people
have
access
to
their
voting
rights
and
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
thank
you
for
having
me.
A
Good
morning
my
name
is
Tiara
Collins
I
am
a
member
of
Pittsburgh's
Republic
for
public
transit.
I've
been
a
member
with
them
for
about
six
years,
I'm
one
who
actually
fought
and
got
them
to
win
the
low
income
Fair
program
pilot
program
that
we
have
running
right
now,
I'm
also
a
board
member
for
the
Pittsburgh
Food
policy.
Council
for
food
and
low-income
neighborhoods.
A
I
am
also
the
CEO
of
a
line
of
Judah
Enterprises,
which
is
for
people
of
color
with
Down
Syndrome
I
am
a
well-known
advocate
in
Hazelwood
the
whole
district
and
other
neighborhoods
for
people
of
color
and
making
sure
that
I
advocate
for
what
our
children
need,
including
inclusion
and
that
they're
being
treated
fairly
and
not
being
treated
differently
because
of
who
they
are,
how
they
look
or
what
color
their
skin
is.
I.
A
Think
that
for
this
board,
that
with
everything
that
I've
done
for
the
City
of
Pittsburgh
with
low
income
and
my
knowledge
that
I
would
be
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
an
asset
and
seeing
how
we
can
change
and
bring
the
world
together
more
as
a
as
a
whole.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
this
and
I.
Thank
you
for
the
nomination
and
your.
G
G
G
Well,
not
one
of
the
most
diverse
Administration
in
the
history
of
the
city,
but
you
know
obviously
we're
not
there
yet
and
so
I
guess
I
would
want
to
hear
from
each
of
you
from
your
perspective
and
in
the
work
that
you
do.
What
do
you,
what
are
sort
of
like
the
the
top
two
or
three
areas
of
greatest
concern?
You
know:
where
are
we
not
there?
Yet?
Where
do
we
need,
whether
it's
the
city
that
needs
to
improve
or
just
issues
of
access
and
services?
D
G
D
A
trans
woman
I'm
very
well
aware
of
issues
of
inequity,
not
just
inner
city,
but
across
the
country.
Right
now,
I
mean
we
have
over
500
bills
that
have
been
introduced
since
the
beginning
of
this
calendar
year,
attempting
to
legislate
trans
people
out
of
existence
in
some
way,
shape
or
form,
and
so
I
would
say
in
our
city
what
I
see
as
the
most
pressing
needs
have
to
do
with
the
rights
of
trans
people
and
also
with
the
rights
of
Youth
around
mental
health.
A
D
Think
public
education
is
very
important
in
terms
of
understanding
what
one
civil
rights
are.
Where
does
one
go
if
their
civil
rights
are
not
being
upheld,
and
also
are
there
other
people
out
there
like
me
having
these
experiences
and
are
there
places
that
I
can
go
to
find
support
from
folks
who
I
can
identify
with
in
some
way
when
it
comes
to
youth?
B
E
How
we
can
acknowledge
them.
How
we
can
support
and
understand
their
needs
because
they're
very
different
and
if
we
don't
understand
them,
and
if
we
don't
take
a
time
to
to
know
where,
where
they're
coming
from
and
and
what
are
their
needs,
we
are
not
going
to
create
the
space
for
them
to
be
successful.
G
F
The
other
thing
is,
you
know,
I.
My
sister
visited
a
while
ago,
pre-pandemic
with
her,
then
husband,
who
is
in
a
wheelchair
and
getting
around
this
city,
was
incredibly
difficult
and
so
I
think
from
a
perspective
of
people
with
disabilities,
I
would
like
to
see
a
better
infrastructure
for
them
to
be
able
to
navigate
through
our
city,
because
it's
one
thing
you
know
to
have
a
wonderful
neighborhood,
but
also
to
be
able
to
enjoy
that
neighborhood
and
connect.
So
those
are
two
things
that
I
think
we
could
really
focus
on.
F
A
A
We
can
bring
everyone
together
because
it
says
it's
the
most
livable
City
on
paper.
But
it's
really
not
you
know.
People
are
treated
different
because
of
the
color.
The
way
they
look,
the
way
they
speak
and
for
me,
I
think
my
goal
would
be
to
try
to
close
that
Gap
because,
like
she
said
when
you're
handicapped
it's
hard
to
get
around
in
wheelchairs,
it's
hard
to
just
even
do
anything.
If
you
don't
speak
the
right
language,
you
can't
get
around.
A
We
should
have
to
worry
about
being
treated
different
because
of
the
color
of
our
skin
or
where
we
live,
or
people
have
to
worry
about
being
homeless
or
whatever
or
like
I
said
trying
to
get
on
the
bus,
because
you
can't
afford
it.
I
think
those
things
should
be
available
and
I'm,
hoping
even
for
the
health
care
I'm
helping
with
this
board
that
we
can
make
things
better.
A
You
shouldn't
have
to
worry
about
what
color
your
skin
is
or
whether
or
not
you
get
put
on
a
transplant
list
and
get
activated
or
if
you
can
get
a
transplant.
You
should
be
able
to
get
transplants,
because
it's
it's
a
requirement
of
need.
It's
something.
We're
supposed
to
do
we're
supposed
to
take
care
of
each
other
and
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
do
that,
because
it's
not
being
done
the
way
it
should
be
and
I'm
hoping
with
this
board,
because
it
is
diverse.
G
Thank
you
so
yeah,
so
before
I
I
handed
over
a
I
do
want
to
say
just
and
I'm,
assuming
you
know
all
be
appointed
to
the
commission.
I
don't
have
any
doubts,
but
I
would
say
just
sort
of,
as
maybe
a
first
step
once
you
join.
An
initial
conversation
is
you
know,
budget
season
is
coming
up
and
to
remember
that,
even
though
you
are
a
city
commission
right,
the
county,
a
lot
of
what
you're
talking
about
is
city
and
county
right.
G
G
B
H
And
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today
and
your
willingness
to
serve
I
just
had
one
question
that
I
was
thinking
about
when
I
was
thinking
about
this.
This
commission
and
and
the
type
of
legislation
I've
seen
come
through
this
Council
and
specifically
want
to
run
housing.
I
know
that
I
had
some
challenges
to
get
implemented
and
there
were
some
barriers
to
to
really.
You
know
making
sure
that
everything
was
working.
On
that
end,
that's
a
little
vague
but
I,
guess
to
I.
Guess
on
that.
D
A
So
I
think
first,
education
is
very
important.
People
need
to
be
educated
because
if
most
people
are
afraid
of
what
they
don't
know
about,
so
I
feel
like.
If
we
start
educating
people
and
that's
everybody
as
old,
we
can
change
people.
If
you
don't
know
something
and
people
are
afraid
to
ask
questions,
you
don't
know
you
don't
get
an
answer.
A
I
feel
like
I've,
been
educated
for
the
last
11
years
because
getting
a
baby
with
Down
syndrome
and
not
expecting
it
and
having
to
rethink
my
whole
life.
You
I
had
to
completely
change
the
way
I
think
of
raising
this
child.
It's
not
like
raising
another
child.
She
couldn't
do
things
the
way
that
you're
used
to
so
for
me,
I
feel
like
getting.
Him
was
a
way
for
me
to
open
my
eyes
to
see
things
in
a
different
light.
A
I've
always
been
who
I
am
I've,
always
been
a
person
who
wants
to
help
and
make
things
better,
but
with
him
he's
made
me
want
to
do
more.
He,
like
I,
literally
go
out
and
I'm
looking
like
I've
helped
people
moms
get
their
GED
and
I've
watched
their
kids
because
they've
been
short
on,
Child
Care
couldn't
afford
it
so
I
think.
If,
for
me,
it's
just
coming
together
and
supporting
each
other,
we
need
support.
A
We
need
shoulder
to
lean
on
and
that's
what
you
don't
get
I
come
from
a
family
of
a
big
family,
so
I've
had
support
so
being
able
to
get
through
things,
knowing
how
to
ask
questions
or
where
to
go.
I've
learned
that
from
my
grandmother
most
people
don't
know
those
things
so
I
I
think
support
is
like
the
number
one
thing
and
just
education
and
being
willing
to
open
up
and
just
lend
a
helping
hand.
F
So
I
think
just
like
in
Council,
our
commission
would
be
responsible
for
making
sure
that
the
people
who
are
coming
to
our
commission
is
working
with
you
so
that
you
can
draft
the
kind
of
policies
that
you
need
to
make
change.
We
all
know
that
change
happens
whenever
policies
are
good
and
policies
are
solid
and
I
think
that
education
is
such
an
important
part,
so
empowering
people
to
Advocate,
because
they
know
that
we
have
their
backs
and
so
that
city
council
has
their
backs
with
drafting
good
policy
and
good
legislation.
E
I
I
think
I
agree
with
what
my
colleagues
are
saying.
Education
is
definitely
one
of
the
the
best
ways
to
empower
people
and
to
make
sure
that
they
know
that
we
exist
that
there
is
a
resource
there.
Representation,
of
course,
and
for
the
commission
I
think,
is
important
to
to
be
able
to
be
open
and
to
be
able
to
be
available.
E
E
You
know
people
don't
come
to
you
if
they
don't
trust
you
and
so
making
sure
that
the
language
making
sure
that
we
are
inclusive,
that
we
are
able
to
also
reflect
what
the
city
wants
to
do
and
the
major
ones
to
do,
which
is
a
lot
of
representation
and
diversity
within
within
the
the
body
and
everybody
who
works
in
the
city.
So
we
want
to
do
the
same
right.
We
want
to
represent
that.
We
want
to
be
able
to
have
open
lines
of
communication,
accessible
education.
E
D
So
we're
asking
a
question
about
vulnerability.
Right,
like
we
have
people
who
are
in
a
position
of
vulnerability
when
it
comes
to
these
various
systems
and
I
think
that
to
Tiara's
Point,
there's
this
belief
that,
whether
it's
based
on
our
race
or
our
education
level
or
our
socioeconomic
class,
that
we
don't
have
access
to
or
the
ability
and
to
impact
these
systems,
and
so
I
think
that
Beyond
education,
what's
really
important,
is
that
folks
who
are
in
these
positions
of
Power
are
able
to
not
just
hear
the
voices
of
people
directly
impacted
by
systems.
I
So
We
have
basically
this
organization
to
protect
people's
civil
rights.
I'm
going
to
get
a
little
Council
Wilson
was
councilman.
Wilson
was
mentioning
that
part
of
the
problems
that
the
commission
has
tackled
around
fair
housing
and
housing
discrimination,
and
it
has
made
recommendations
to
city
council
around
how
to
provide
fair
housing.
But
then
also
in
the
crisis
of
the
pandemic,
we
were
trying
to
help
people
who
had
been
served
with
eviction
papers
and
it
was.
It
was
awkward.
I
We
were
using
our
state
Declaration
of
emergency
Powers,
because
this
isn't
work
that
we've
been
able
to
do
before.
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
the
the
commission
is
incredibly
helpful,
around
housing
issues
for
individuals,
so
we've
had
constituents
who
felt
that
they
were
being
discriminated
against
by
their
landlords
and
it's
the
first
place
to
call
which
is
fantastic,
so
I
thought.
A
Good
morning,
how
are
you
Miss
gross
good
to
see
you
what
I
would
like
to
see
for
things
to
change?
Is
it
to
be
equal?
You
know
you
got
neighborhoods
where
that's
where
Pacific
people
can
live
and
that's
only
because
that's
where
they
can
afford
to
live.
I
feel
like
for
fair
housing.
Housing
is
not
fair.
You
should
be
able
to
live
wherever
you
want
and
you
shouldn't
be
discriminated
because
of
your
color
or
your
race
or
if
you
or
I'm,
handicapped
and
I
see
that
a
lot.
A
You
know
you
got
the
neighborhoods
where
State
South
poles,
for
instance,
when
you
go
out
South,
Hills
and
put
in
applications
the
first
day
they
look
at
is
your
race,
and
then
they
look
at
okay.
Well,
your
income
has
to
I've
seen
the
application
where
I
think
it
says
your
income
has
to
be
four
times
the
rent.
That's
all
discrimination
and
I
think
things
need
to
change,
and
we
can
do
that,
but
we
got
to
do
it
together.
A
I
don't
like
to
see
when
people
your
credit
score
shouldn't,
make
a
difference.
It
shouldn't
make
a
difference,
but
shouldn't
and
I
think
when
they
do
things
like.
Oh,
we
don't
rent
to
them
because
we
had
tenants.
You
can't
always
think
about
what
the
last
person
did.
You
have
to
give
people
a
chance
and
I
think
even
for
that
it
still
comes
to
education.
A
So
if
you
don't
know
how
to
do
something,
you
need
to
be
educated
and
there's
things
that
we
need
to
bring
back,
that
you
took
over,
not
you,
but
in
general,
took
away
to
make
life
different.
They
took
away
parenting
classes,
parenting
classes
need
to
be
brought
into
place
if
you
bring
things
back
that
was
taken
away,
I
think
stuff
that
people
are
used
to
getting
would
change
so
I
would
love
to
see
stuff
like
that
and
I
know,
because
as
a
teen
mom
I
had
parenting
classes,
even
though
I
didn't
need
them.
A
So
as
long
as
people
understand
that
you
can
always
learn
something
and
just
be
open-minded,
things
can
change,
but
for
housing
it
needs
to
change
desperately,
because
just
people
who's
losing
their
housing
has
been
homeless
from
things
that
weren't
even
their
fault
for
a
year
or
two
years
they
still
haven't,
found
nowhere
to
live
and
I
know
everybody's
trying
to
do
things,
but
I
think
we
need
to
do
things
a
different
way,
because
when
something's
not
working
it's
time
to
try
another
way
to
do
it.
Thank
you.
I
So
the
commission
on
human
relations
has
done
everything
from
writing.
Our
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
recommendations
that
they
brought
to
council,
but
also
because
it's
there
to
protect
people's
civil
rights
is
where
we
go
when
we
have
an
individual
person,
not
just
policy
level
but
an
individual
case
of
discrimination,
and
so,
for
example,
even
fairly
recently,
I
had
a
constituent
who
was
being
discriminated
against.
She
felt
like
her
landlord
and
at
CHR
is
where
we
went
to
to
get
help
for
her
and
to
get
recourse
right.
I
So
there's
a
variety
of
things
like
I
said:
we've
struggled
with
eviction
and,
and
it's
not
a
power
we
have
and
to
intervene
on.
We
were
able
to
do
it
for
a
short
while
under
our
emergency
powers
during
the
pandemic,
but
since
no
one
we
hadn't
really
been
talking
about
housing.
In
this
interview,
I
wanted
to
give
each
of
you
a
chance
to
speak
to
your
thoughts
on
housing,
fair
housing,
housing,
discrimination.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
You
know,
like
I,
said
my
previous
my
answer
just
before,
when
you
have
diverse
neighborhoods,
when
you
have
diverse
populations
living
amongst
each
other,
all
of
a
sudden
those
barriers
get
broken
down.
Where
you
see
people
as
people,
instead
of
as
whatever
boxes
they
seem
to
check
in
your
mind,
you
know:
Isabella
Wilkerson
says
we
didn't
build
this
house,
but
we
are
the
ones
who
are
responsible
for
its
foundation
and
and
fixing
it
up
and
I.
Think
housing
is
a
huge
issue
for
that
people
can
still.
F
I.
Think
this
commission,
the
responsibility
of
it,
is
to
listen
to
people
and
to
hear
their
stories
and,
along
with
you
in
city
council,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
supporting
people
and
believing
people
and
making
an
environment
diversity.
Equity
inclusion
is
not
just
about
checking
boxes
and
saying:
we've
done
this.
We've
done
this.
We've
done
this,
but
also
perpetuating
a
feeling
of
belonging,
and
that's
what
I
think
this
commission
will
will
do
that
answered.
E
E
E
It's
it's
been
about
access
and
I
think
this
is
a
big
one
for
the
Latino
population,
especially
the
undocumented
population.
They
do
face
a
lot
of
challenges
when
it
comes
to
be
able
to
find
a
safe
place
to
live,
and
really
that
is
something
that
it's
it's
it's
extremely
hard,
because
it's
not
only
you
know
one
person
affected
by
it's
a
full
family.
E
So
I
I
think
it's
like
I
said
it's
a
basic
human
right
and
it
should
be
it
shouldn't
be
based
on
your
credit
score.
It
shouldn't
be
based
on
you
know
your
background
or
who
you
know
it
should
be
just
based
on
the
fact
that
you
need
a
house
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
is
a
welcome
City.
That's
what
I
want
to
see
and
we
can
promote
that,
as
as
the
commission.
D
I
think
to
go
off
of
the
point
about
housing
being
a
fundamental
human
right,
and
also
that
there
has
been
work
done
in
this
area
by
the
commission.
Previously
I
think
it's
important
that
we
introduce
to
the
conversation,
maybe
a
broader
view
of
this
idea
of
housing
access,
so
I
think
one
thing
is:
this
is
a
vulnerability
which,
like
many
other
vulnerabilities,
that
people
experience,
increases
their
risk
of
interfacing
with
the
carceral
system.
D
In
many
ways
like
people
without
homes,
often
interact
more
frequently
with
law
enforcement
are
put
under
stress
that
might
lead
to
mental
health.
Crises
are
put
into
positions
where
they
might
be
doing
things
to
secure
Financial
Security
that
put
them
into
that.
Have
them
interfacing
with
law
enforcement
as
well,
and
there
are
particular
populations
that
are
more
likely
to
not
have
a
home
right.
So
I
think
that
we
also
need
to
be
considering
trans
and
queer
folks
in
general,
especially
in
the
current
political
climate,
and
what
does
access
to
housing?
D
Look
like
for
that
population,
in
particular,
queer
youth,
who
are
at
risk
of
being
kicked
out
of
their
homes
by
family
members.
I.
Think
it's
something
like
the
most
recent
statistic
was
40
of
Youth
Without,
a
home
across
the
country
or
lgbtq,
and
also
young
people.
Generally
speaking,
I
work
as
a
mental
health
therapist
with
a
lot
of
young
people
who
are
in
home
situations
that
aren't
necessarily
beneficial
to
them
and
they'd
like
to
seek
access
to
their
own
independent
housing.
D
But
there
are
only
so
many
programs
within
our
city
that
provide
independent,
independent
housing,
young
people
and
if
they
aren't,
for
example,
a
young
person
who
has
been
involved
with
cyf
or
a
variety
of
other
systems,
then
they
don't
meet
criteria
for
eligibility
to
Independent
housing.
And
yet
we
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
young
people
who
need
safe,
stable,
secure
housing
that
they
can
financially
access.
So
I
think
that
we
also
need
to
consider
how
have
various
populations
already
been
represented
in
some
ways.
D
B
B
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
your
patience
for
waiting
here
and
you
can
turn
on
your
mic
and
just
hit
it
tap
it
and
make
sure
it's.
You
know
closer
wait
to
get
comfortable
there
and
you
can
just
say
introduce
yourself
say
a
little
bit
about
what
you
hope
to
bring
to
the
board
and
then
we'll
turn
over
to
council
members
to
ask
questions.
J
Good
morning
my
name
is
Jayla
Rucker
and
I
am
the
President
of
the
Hope
six
Manchester
Community,
it's
a
scattered
site,
also
the
educational
Outreach
manager
for
rent
help
Pittsburgh,
where
we
do
evictions
and
appeals
with
the
magisterial
district
and
the
Court
of
Common
Pleas
I'm.
Here
today,
as
a
hacp,
tenant
and
I
know
what
I
can
bring
to
the
board
would
be
to
actually
help
hacp
identify
who
their
tenants
are
by
helping
them
recognize
what
assets
are
available
to
them
within
their
communities
and
that
way
that
they
can
gain
control
over
their
lives.
J
I've
been
at
hacp
tenant
since
I
was
18
years
old
and
that's
not
something
that
is
taught
to
you
about
how
to
know
your
rights
and
responsibilities
as
a
leaseholder
and
when
I
was
at
that
age.
Of
course,
just
like
most
folks
who
are
looking
for
a
roof
over
their
head
just
signs
off,
at
least
just
because
they
want
to
get
those
keys
in
their
hands.
So
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
educate
the
folks
that
we
serve
and,
of
course,
help
them
thrive.
J
G
Yeah
sure,
so
is
that
please
yeah
okay,
yeah
well,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
also
for
stepping
up
to
to
serve
in
this
role.
I
guess
I'm
I'm,
always
of
the
opinion
that
it
it
it's
good
to
have
cheerleaders
for
organizations
on
the
various
boards.
But
it's
also
good
to
have
you
know.
Skeptics
people
who
have
sort
of
you
know
would
like
to
see
the
board.
G
You
know
whatever
the
board
may
be
right
would
like
to
see
the
organization
do
better,
and
so,
as
you
know,
as
as
a
a
tenant,
and
if,
if
you
don't
mind,
I,
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
where
are
areas
that
you
feel
h-a-cp
could
be
doing
better
with
regards
you
know:
well,
I'll,
just
let
you
I'll,
maybe
say
the
top,
the
top
three
things
on
on
on
your
list.
Well,.
J
There
are
a
lot
of
programs
that
can
be
useful
to
the
hacp
tenants,
but
they
don't
know
how
to
utilize
them
or
they
don't
recognize
the
strengths
that
they
have
because,
of
course,
the
most
of
the
tenants
are
facing.
Shame
and
Trauma.
You
know
with
their
everyday
lives
within
the
communities
that
they
live
in
and
they're
suffering
from.
J
You
know,
Mental
Health
and
certain
things
like
that,
but
I
feel
like
hacp
could
do
more
in
addressing
the
community
by
showing
them
exactly
how
to
gain
access
to
the
assets
that
are
available
to
them
within
their
communities
and
just
help
them
thrive
in
a
way
they
can
do.
That
is
by
allowing
the
tenants
to
have
a
voice
and,
of
course,
as
us
being
tenants
and
they're
the
landlords
they're
more
of
a
threat
to
us
when
you're
speaking
out
against
them
and
what
their
roles
is
to
play
is
them
is
being
their
landlord.
J
You
know,
of
course,
we're
just
tenants
and
what
we
say
or
do
some
of
those
might
not
think
that
it
matters,
but
it
does
because
it's
our
communities
that
we
have
to
go
back
to
and
go
home
to
every
day
the
folks
at
hacp
they
don't
live
there
say
they
don't
know.
What's
going
on
there,
also
their
maintenance
procedures.
J
I
know
that
there
are
times
where
there
are
certain
things
that
the
tenants
don't
know
to
ask
for
when
they
are
reporting
maintenance
issues
like
their
work
order.
Number
I
came
up
with
a
way
that
we
could
be
able
to
address
that
by,
like
maybe
sending
out
a
text
message
to
the
tenants
when
they
call
in
for
their
maintenance
orders
and
give
them
their
work
order
number
or
give
them
an
update
on
it
once
they've
called
in,
and
they
should
be
addressed
within
a
certain
matter
of
time.
J
G
Okay,
great,
thank
you
and
then
also-
and
this
may
not
be
your
wheelhouse
since
you're
a
tenant
in
in
an
hacp
property,
but
I'm,
very
curious
about
ways
that
that
the
voucher
program,
Section
8,
could
be
improved
to
increase
the
number
of
landlords
offering
right.
Who
will
accept
tenants
with
vouchers
and
the
role
like.
J
As
you
know,
the
president
of
the
tenant
Council,
and
also
just
the
organizations
that
I
work
amongst
and
I
have
found
it
to
be
successful
when
I
have
reached
out
to
many
different
folks
and
just
CCN
or
blind
CC
in
them
on
the
email
and
letting
them
know
you
know
hey.
This
is
what's
going
on,
but
tenants
don't
know
what
to
do.
They
just
have
phone
numbers
that
they're
calling
and
they're
leaving
message
after
message,
and
it's
not
being
responded
to
and
I
just
think
that
the
Section
8
program
is
not
a
good
program.
G
J
J
That
is
something
that
I
was
made
aware
of.
Just
a
few
weeks
ago,
when
I
had
a
tenant
come
in,
who
is
a
veteran
who
has
been
homeless
for
over
a
year
because
they
couldn't
get
in
touch
with
their
housing
Specialists,
so
their
voucher
actually
expired
and
they
were
considered
as
abandoning
their
unit,
which
really
didn't
happen.
They
were
actually
evicted
because
the
landlord
wasn't
getting
their
portion
of
their
payment
from
section
8
and
once
I
did
get
in
touch
with
them.
I
was
aware
of
that.
They
had
moved
their
office.
Okay,.
A
D
G
H
They
had
zero
percent
loans
to
landlords,
so
they
can
meet
standards
of
of
qualifying
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
exact
term
is,
but
basically
so
they
would
be
able
to
qualify
to
accept
the
voucher
at
that
property
and
and
the
also
the
hacp
at
a
program
as
well
I
believe
to
better
connect
landlords
I
think
there
was
a
loan
option
as
well.
I
could
be
wrong
regardless.
Do
you
see
that
as
a
as
a
I
mean
you'll
be
voting
on
the
budget
for
the
Housing
Authority?
J
Honestly,
depending
on
what
stipulations
are
put
in
place,
if
folks
have
to
present
what
their
income
or
their
bank
statement
I
know,
I
was
in
the
home
ownership
program.
I
did
that
eight
years
ago
and
I
didn't
end
up
being
successful,
I
went
and
did
the
workshop
of
course,
but
of
course
then
I
had
to
do
credit
repairs.
They
asked
for
your
last
few
years
of
income
tax.
Your
bank
statements
are.
H
I
understand
the
question
I
was
asking
was
pertain
to
just
landlords
like
if,
if
the
program,
the
programs
that
they
did
in
the
past
to
increase
funds
to
base
make
make
money
available
to
someone
who
owns
a
property,
so
they
could
use
a
voucher
like
say
the
doorway
isn't
right
or
the
there's
some
lead
remediation.
That
has
to
happen
that
that
landlord
can
go
then
go
and
you
know,
use
those
to
find
zero
percent
loans.
Try.
J
H
H
H
Yeah,
so
that's
where
you
know
the
conversation
started
with
numbers.
Where
there's
you
know,
I,
don't
know,
I
can't
remember
what
the
numbers,
maybe
eight
thousand
I,
should
mention
the
number
there's
a
gap
in
terms
of
vouchers
that
are,
you
know
qualified,
whether
they're
given
or
once
again
I,
don't
know
the
exact
term
but
potential
families,
individuals
that
could
use
a
voucher
that
could
get
into
a
property
they
qualify
and
then
that
has
this
huge
gap
in
the
program
between
an
actual
property.
H
So
if
there
is
an
issue
of
because
I've
heard
this
too,
that
there
may
be
an
issue
of
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
lack
of
staff
or
what
the
issue
is
I
don't
have.
I
haven't
spent
time
to
really
dig
into
that
question.
But
are
you
interested
in
in
trying
to
understand
that
and
whether
or
not
you
know
they
need
more
staff
to
you
know
on
that
program,
I
mean
you'll,
be
seeing
the
budget
I'm
just
curious.
If,
if
that's
something
that
that
you're
interested.
J
We're
with
that
list
being
enlisted
at
for
tenants
to
know
how
to
find
those
units.
You
know
that's
the
much
bigger
Gap
right
there
is
tenants,
can't
even
find
anyone
that
will
accept
their
voucher
because
of
the
lack
of
communication,
the
inhabitability
of
the
properties
and
I,
just
I
really
just
can't
see
it
happening,
maybe
in
the
long
run.
J
H
H
What's
your
thoughts
on
the
the
Choice
neighborhood
program
that
I
mean
given
that
you
know
that
you're
living
in
a
hope,
six
property
in
terms
of
the
new,
the
new
Federal
ideas
around
you
know
how
to
basically
repair
I
mean
the
new
model
that
they're
rep,
that
they're
presenting
is
is
a
choice.
Neighborhood
are
you?
Are
you
familiar
with
that
and
what
are
your.
J
Just
a
one-time
move:
do
not
tear
our
existing
units
down
and
have
folks
move
out
of
their
communities
where
that's
all
we
know,
I,
don't
really
know
too
much
about
what
they're
doing
in
other
programs
throughout
the
city
with
hacp
Choice
programs,
but
I
just
don't
see
it
being
something
that
would
be
a
greater
outcome
for
the
best
for
the
folks
who
are
involved
in
those
Choice
neighborhood
programs.
Right
now,.
H
J
Her
soul,
she
passed
on
I've
been
none
Miss
Cheryl,
since
I
was
a
young
Youth
and
looked
up
to
her.
You
know
for
always
advocating
and
fighting
for
the
tenants
within
the
community
that
she
lived
in.
That
just
gave
me
a
lot
of
motivation.
You
know
to
one
day
you
know
be
that
person,
but
just
not
fight
for
the
folks.
I
I
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
about
your
criticism
of
the
voucher
program,
which
we've
seen
in
the
news
and
we've
also
in
my
office.
We've
been
struggling
with
the
case
for
this.
Almost
this
whole
year,
where
the
attendance
in
my
district
applied
for
Housing
Voucher
two
years
ago
and
was
approved
finally
in
November
of
2022.
I
and
then
according
to
the
tenant,
the
Housing
Authority
just
visit.
These
are
their
own
words
ghosted
them.
We
wouldn't
respond
to
any
phone
calls.
We
had
no
way
of
getting
any
response,
just
absolute
silence
for
months,
while
in
the
meanwhile
here
in
2023,
the
landlord
increased
the
rent
at
their
unit
by
800
overnight,
a
rent
increase
from
very
small
modest
unit
of
800
dollars,
which
the
voucher
doesn't
cover
right.
So
now,
they're
in
a
crisis,
they
don't
have
a
current
lease
because
the
lease
expired.
This
is
very
common
with
landlords.
I
So
they
were
reissued
a
voucher,
but
with
a
back
date,
so
that
there's
only
about
like
a
week
or
something
to
to
reapply
so
they're
like
they
their
applications.
They
haven't
been
reissued
a
voucher.
They
had
to
get
all
the
paperwork
and
get
everything
into
the
office
in
in
a
week
which
is
really
unusual.
I
I
J
My
thoughts
on
that
again
would
be
to
just
keep
pressing.
Maybe
what
Bobby
was
saying
about
the
voucher
program
that
the
Ura
is
willing
to
support
and
Help
Housing
Authority
out
with
that
I
don't
know
but
Deborah.
If
you
would
like
to
refer
that
client
to
me,
I
would
be
more
than
willing
to
help
them.
I
Thank
thank
you.
I
really
do
I
mean
well
right,
they're,
scraping
together
and
we're
trying
to
help
them
get
the
funds
to
at
least
not
get
kicked
out
on
the
curb
by
their
new
landlord,
while
we're
struggling
to
find
have
them
again.
The
problem
of
the
voucher
system
is
that
people
can
have
the
Badgers,
but
can't
find
a
place,
and
other
members
have
touched
on
what
are
the
other
parts
of
of
that
problem?
So
I
really
appreciate
that
are.
I
You
know
what
I
don't
have
the
notes
in
front
of
me
on
all
the
on
the
web
staff
like
sending
me
notes
on
to
update
it
and
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
just
the
termination
of
links
or
if
they've
actually
filed
the
admission
papers,
I
feel
like
they've,
given
them
month,
extensions
so
far,
but
so
they
got
like
a
couple
of
months
and
we're
just
ready
to
any
any
minute
the
landlord
isn't
going
to
give
them
another
month.
Extension.
I
We
all
we
have
this
case
again.
This
is
going
back
to
our
previous
interview.
This
is
another
one
of
the
cases
that
we
refer
to
the
commission
on
human
relations,
because
the
identical
unit
next
door
only
got
a
100
rent
increase,
and
this
time
you
got
an
800
rent
increase.
So
there's
just
a
lot
of
complexity
out
there
in
our
real
estate
market.
We
definitely
need
to
use
all
of
our
resources,
including
all
of
the
capacities
that
the
Housing
Authority
as
well.
J
B
I
I'm
ready
to
go
into
I'm
ready
to
put
my
work
hat
on.
There
was
a
there
was
a
court.
There
wasn't
much
straight
hearing
earlier
in
the
year,
but
I
would
appreciate
that
I
will
definitely
follow
up
again.
I'm
grateful
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and
I'm
definitely
supportive
for
her
nomination
appreciate
it.
That's
all
I
have
is
manager,
appreciate.
G
J
B
I
would
just
say:
I
will
then
save
your
comments
for
the
authority
and
speak
up
there,
but
I
will
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve.
But
when
I
hear
you
talking
about
all
the
different
the
lack
of
communications,
the
resources
I
think
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
offers
a
ton
of
help
and
a
ton
of
resources,
but
it
is
so
difficult
to
navigate
for
any
any
one
person
and
it's
one
of
the
things.
B
Council
and
I
continue
to
talk
about
creating
a
housing
department
where
everything's
under
one
umbrella
and
people
can
work
together
and
get
all
the
information
out
to
people
so
that
we
know
what
we're
doing
here
on
one
team
with
that
said,
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve.
Your
confirmation
will
be
on
Tuesday's
agenda.
Okay
and.
B
B
Thank
you
just
I'll
give
you
a
second
to
get
seated
when
you
turn
your
mic
on.
It
will
turn
on
and
make
sure
it's
close
to
you
so
that
they
can
hear
you
on
TV.
Yours
is
off
still
tap
the
light,
just
tap
it
there.
You
go
it's
just
so
tricky
and
then
we'll
start
with
you
and
just
identify
yourself
for
the
public.
If
there's
something
that
you'd
like
to
add
what
you
think
you
can
contribute
to
the
board
I'm
eager
to
hear
and
know
every
other
people
are
too.
So.
K
Hello
hi,
my
name
is
Billy
Vaughn
I
am
an
educator
in
the
community
on
blight
and
vacant
property
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
So
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
opportunity
for
me
to
help
ensure
that
the
safety
of
the
public
from
the
disruptive
properties
do
not
affect
our
communities
and
to
just
help
bring
my
value
of
the
education
that
I
have
around
disruptive
properties
to
our
residents.
L
B
G
We
could
do
whether
it's
at
the
state
level
State
County,
City
level.
That
would
that
you
think,
would
streamline
this
process
and
make
it
easier
for
us
to
get
these
properties
cleaned
up
so
that
neighbors
aren't
dealing
with
you
know
whatever
would
be
garbage
and
rats
and
just
general
unsightliness
in
their
neighborhoods.
K
So
a
lot
of
residents
are
not
educated
on
just
court
process
and
how
it
works
and
how
you
know
what
it
takes
to
even
keep
up
with
a
property,
so
I
just
think
first
identifying
what
type
of
properties
are
considered,
most
disruptive,
whether
it
is
vacant
and
blight,
whether
it
is
commercial
and
it's
a
bar
and
it's
a
nuisance
or
whether
it
is
just
text
delinquent,
so
just
identifying
what
is
considered,
disruptive
and
then
taking
it
from
there.
So.
G
I
will
say
it
seems,
and
again
this
is
anecdotal.
I
don't
want
to,
but
just
in
my
experience
that
when
you
are
dealing
with
something
where
law
enforcement
would
be
involved
like
a
new
like
a
noise
complaints
or
you
know
that
type
of
thing
or
a
borrower
it,
it
seems
like
it's
a
lot
easier
to
deal
with
those,
but
when
there's
sort
of
criminal
activity,
but
I
know
in,
in
my
experience
at
least
with
my
constituents,
it's
more
just
the
properties
with
nobody
in
them
at
least
those
that's.
G
No,
but
what
what
would
I
mean
if
there
was
because
I,
because
I'm
I'm
kind
of
at
Law
at
a
loss
like
what?
What
could
we
do?
What
could
we
do
as
a
city?
What
could
I
mean
I,
don't
understand
that
you
all
would
be
the
appeals
for,
but
I'm
just
curious
sort
of
with
your
expertise
like
what
could
be
done.
I
mean
what
are
the
biggest
barriers,
maybe
and
then
any
ideas
about
how
to
overcome
them.
D
G
D
K
The
ones
that
are
abandoned
in
blight,
what
I'm,
seeing
and
what
I'm
learning
over
the
years
of
just
educating
myself
from
and
I've
done
all
the
education
in
this
building,
whether
it
was
the
law
library
whether
it
was
attending
a
meeting
I've
learned
the
process
of
the
vacant
property
in
this
building.
So
what
I'm
seeing
a
lot
with
housing
that
is
vacant
and
blight,
and
we're
not
talking
about
the
ones
that
actually
have
tenants
right.
We're
talking.
K
That
are
they
get.
A
lot
of
people
are
just
holding
you
know,
holding
for
the
market,
to
change
holding
for
the
right
price,
to
sell
to
the
right
person
and
what
I
would
like
to
see
if
they're
acquiring
the
property
and
getting
it
from
the
city.
There
should
be
a
timeline
on
how
long,
if
they're
purchasing
from
the
city,
there
should
be
a
timeline
on
how
long
they
could
have
it
before
they
start
Renovations
or
do
something
with
it.
K
If
they
can't,
you
know,
have
a
property
that
is
just
stable
for
the
community
right,
so
educating
them
on
like
fines,
they
can
get
for
how
many
times
the
police
has
to
come
out,
educating
them
on
the
process
where
they
could
lose
their
license
where
they
could
lose
their
business.
I,
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
realize
all
that
they
can
lose
from
just
something
being
considered
a
nuisance,
so
once
they
know
you
know
that
would
just
help
them
take
just
better
awareness
of
how
they
keep
up
with
their
property.
G
It
seems
to
me
that
the
the
citations
are
issued
and
it's
right
they
get
out
and
they
check
it
out
and
they
do.
But
then
then
it
goes
to
the
magistrate
and
then
there's
a
fine.
The
fine
is
and-
and
it
seems
too
that
there's
this
issue
of
like
paying
these
fines
is
just
kind
of
the
cost
of
doing
business
right
for
these
large
llc's.
So
they
don't,
they
don't
actually.
L
G
D
H
H
It's
only
happened
twice
and
the
program
wasn't
implemented
fully
during
the
the
last
Administration.
So
now
we're
back
at
the
table
here
to
put
a
full
board
in
place
to
you
know
just
make
the
decisions
on
fines
and
fees
and,
and
then
the
real
piece,
though,
that
people
want
to
see
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
give
you
my
opinion
yet
on
it.
But
this
is
just
what
I'm
hearing
from
my
you
know.
H
Activate
it
and
I
understand
right
now,
it's
in
a
process
to
to
do
it
for
commercial.
Only
so
right
now
it's
in
they're
focus
on
Commercial
properties.
First
and
not
private
properties
and
I-
think
I'm,
not
sure
where
that
decision
was
made,
but
that's
kind
of
the
understanding
that
that
I've
been
told
that
and
the
Public's
been
told
at
Community
meetings
that
the
focus
this
board
will
be
focused
on
Commercial
properties.
First,
so
I
want
to
get
your
take
on
that.
H
You
know.
If
you're,
you
know,
if
that's
your
understanding
as
well,
if
you're
on
board,
for
that,
because
you
know
eventually,
the
public
is
interested
in
other
right
now,
they're
interested
in
that
private
property
piece
like
single
home.
You
know
piece
because
that
that
one
well
I'm
gonna
I
have
a
follow-up
question
with
that
one.
H
K
Okay,
so
I
think
it's
on
commercial
property
is
a
priority
now,
because
the
violence
that's
stemming
from
it
just
with
whether
it's
a
bar
or
well
I'm
speaking
of
bars,
a
lot
of
bars
are
considered
nuisance
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
violence.
Starting
from
that,
so
I
think
that's
why
the
focus
may
be
so
much
on
commercial
property
right
now
and
how
that
is
considered
disruptive,
but
just
for
me
to
be
on
a
board.
K
I
would
like
to
help
those
business
owners
before
we
just
you
know
completely
shut
down
the
bar
help
them
see
ways
to
Brand
their
selves
as
like.
This
is
a
place
for
peace.
You
know
this
is
a
place
of
Comedy,
so
when
those
ones
that
are
disruptive
come
they're,
not
they're,
not
welcome
there
and
just
helping
them
understand
who
they
are
in
a
community
and
how
their
business
is
huge
for
that
Community
to
thrive.
K
So
I
think
once
they
understand
the
fines
and
the
fees
and
maybe
even
a
misdemeanor,
they
will
just
have
a
better
understanding
and
take
their
position
as
a
business
owner
more
serious
than
just
accepting
what
all
comes
with
the
crowd
of
coming
to
your
place
of
business.
So
did
that
answer
your
question?
I'm.
Sorry,
what.
H
H
K
L
K
D
L
Have
a
say
in
directing
the
the
enforcement
is
more
of
an
appeals,
type
position.
My
personal
opinion,
you
know
not
not
not
not
the
boards
that
I'm
not
on
yet
opinion
is
there's
something
especially
egregious
about
people
who
are
hurting
the
public
interest
hurting
residents
of
Pittsburgh
while
operating
a
business
for
profit.
L
D
H
Thanks
and
then
the
the
other
part
get
into
the
private
property
or
I'm.
Sorry,
because
it's
all
private
property,
but
in
terms
of
you,
know,
homes,
homeowners,
you
know,
what's
your
what's
your
thoughts
on
on
ensuring
that
that
there
is
appropriate
decisions
made
on
on
fines
and
fees
because
they're,
you
know
some
look
at
this,
this
legislation
and.
H
H
K
And
I
think
that's
why
we're
not
focusing
so
much
on
the
private
property
piece
as
much
because
to
avoid
the
evictions
and
to
avoid
the
housing
crisis
that
we
already
have
so
just
I
mean
I.
Think
the
main
thing
is
educating
the
residents
and
the
landlords
on
how
important
it
is
to
you
know,
not
abuse
or
even
the
resources
of
calling
the
police.
You
know
the
fines
that
come
with
it
and
and
also
supporting
landlords
that
just
may
have
a
tenant.
That's
a
nuisance.
L
I
think
at
the
core
you
know
as
one
member
potentially
the
board
I'll
be
driven
by.
What's
what's
the
public
interest
and
and
safety
concerns,
so
I
could
imagine
scenarios
where
enforcement
actions
are
taken
against
homeowners
and
the
board
would
probably
you
know,
may
up
hold
that
enforcement
action.
B
Thank
you.
I
actually
have
a
lot
of
questions
more
comments.
To
be
honest
with
you
as
I
hear
the
conversation
about
enforcing
commercial
versus
disruptive
I
recently
met
with
Maria
Bethel,
who
was
the
director
of
disruptive
properties
for
the
City
of
Pittsburgh,
and
she
said
we
absolutely
cannot
just
enforce
commercial
versus
residential
because
you're
setting
up
a
discrimination
and
it's
actually
a
lawsuit
for
the
City
of
Pittsburgh,
so
she
offered
to
meet
with
us
and
I
would
encourage.
B
Now
and
now
we
have
a
solicitor,
so
I'm
excited
to
work
with
him
on
it,
but
you
have
to
have
three
violations
within
a
year
before
anything
can
ever
happen
if
we've
come
to
disruptive
properties,
so
a
Year's
worth
of
whatever
you're
doing,
and
it
could
be
there's
a
list
of
violations.
It's
you
know,
soliciting
business
noise,
ordinance,
alcohol.
B
People
didn't
know
how
to
go
from
public
housing
into
a
privately
owned
home
and
into
a
neighborhood
where
you
were
now
suddenly
responsible
for
the
grass
and
all
this
other,
but
nobody
ever
trained
them
or
taught
them.
I.
Remember
when
I
first
moved
to
my
house
in
Westwood
I
lived
on
Fifth
Avenue,
we
had
IV
in
the
front
yard,
I
didn't
have
any
grass
or
anything
that
when
I
moved
to
Westwood
my
neighbor
came
down
and
gave
us
our
lawnmower
and
said:
hey
your
grass
gets
high.
B
You
got
to
get,
keep
it
cut
and
taught
us
everything
that
was
expected.
Did
my
husband
never
missed
a
beat
after
that,
because
he
knew
that
somebody
was
going
to
come.
Tell
him,
but
somebody
took
the
time
to
teach
us
and
to
show
us
that
that
and
when
we
were
young,
we're
old
now
we're
showing
people,
but
somebody,
you
know,
showed
us
and
took
the
time.
B
K
K
Avenue,
but
it's
one
of
those
streets
where
you
know
I
was
one
who
lived
there
and
while
I
was
in
the
section
8
program,
I
lived
on
Dinwiddie,
but
it's
so
different
because
you
have
homeowners
and
then
you
have
renters
in
public
and
hacp
across
the
street,
and
then
you
have
renters
and
Brownstones
right
and
they
don't
understand.
The
value
of
this
is
a
brownstone
like
this
is
5
million
in
New
York.
K
K
So
a
lot
of
renters,
just
they
don't
know
the
value
or
they
don't
really
know
how
to
take
care
of
something
where
they
don't
feel
like
they'll
be
there
for
a
while,
so
the
education
around
just
you
know
where
you
live,
how
important
it
is
to
take
care
of
it
and
a
lot
of
that
just
comes
with
not
owning
you.
The
identity
is
not
there.
I'm.
B
K
Yeah
yeah,
so
oh
yeah,
but
there
are
some
yeah
that
need
to
to
understand
a
little
bit,
but
it's
just
how
same
with
some
homeowners
yeah,
but
where,
because
you
have
identity
in
your
neighborhood
as
a
renter
right,
so
how?
What
does
that
look
like?
How
do
you
take
care
of
it?
You
know
how
we're
speaking
of
the
disruptive
ones.
K
D
K
B
They
get
to
you
if
there
was
some
kind
of
intervention,
some
kind
of
help
yeah
so
I
mean
one
citation.
Is
one
thing
get
them
some
help
that
you
have
a
lot
of
time
to
get
them
help,
but
then
you
know
three
citations
in
a
year
that
takes
a
while
to
get
those.
So
there's
a
that's
a
lot
of
opportunity
of
help.
You
know
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
infuse
some
help
in
that
process.
G
G
Well,
just
on
that
note,
I
think
too,
in
terms
of
I
mean
again
I
feel
like
there's
a
role
for
the
landlord
like
when
you,
when
you're
dealing
with
a
landlord
tenant
situation,
like
that,
you
know,
when
you
have
these
large
llc's,
which
you
know,
would
they
just
have
100,
you
know
hundreds
of
properties,
you,
you
don't
have
that
same
connection
as
with
the
smaller
kind
of
mom-and-pop
landlords,
where
you
can
actually
have
that
human
connection.
Right,
like
like
look,
you
know
like
look,
this
is
a
neighborhood.
This
is
how
you
know.
B
G
B
B
Thought
I
think
that's
a
great
idea:
I
keep
saying:
I'm
gonna!
Do
this
I'm
gonna
look
I'm
looking
at
Zeke
redling
or
nothing
I'm
gonna
work
with
him
too
I
think
we
should
be
offering
incentives
to
local
landlords
to
incentivize
them
purchasing
more
of
our
homes.
So
I
think
it
would
be
great
we're
always
so
punitive
it'd
be
great
to
incentivize,
especially
you
know,
landlords
that
are
doing
some
of
the
great
things
in
the
city.
K
Want
to
clarify,
we
have
wonderful
renters.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
the
nomination
I
look
forward
to
serving
on
this
board
I'm,
very
passionate
about
blight
and
bacon
properties.
I'm
passionate
about
the
residents
in
our
community
to
ensure
their
safety
and
I
would
like
to
just
be
a
representation
for
the
community
on
this
board.
Thank
you.
So.
B
L
L
B
That
said,
your
final,
your
appointments,
the
confirmations,
will
be
on
Tuesday.
Thank
you
both
very
much
for
your
willing
to
serve
I.
Think
the
mayor
did
a
really
great
job
with
the
appointees
today,
so
we're
eager
to
work
with
all
of
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
You
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.