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From YouTube: CityTalk with John McIntire: Greg Haduch & Andy Scott
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On this episode of CityTalk, John interviews Greg Haduch from the Department of Mobility & Infrastructure and Andy Scott from the Department of Innovation & Performance.
A
A
Welcome
to
a
brand
new
edition
of
city
talk
where,
once
again,
we
asked
the
musical
question:
what
on
earth
do
these
people
do
all
day?
And
I
mean
by
these
people
I
mean
the
people
who
work
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
say
hello
to
a
sign
painter
and
a
damn
good.
One.
Greg
haddock
joins
us
from
his
living
room.
Greg
welcome
to
the
program.
A
So
when
you
were,
you
know
five
years
old
and
everybody
else
wanted
to
be
a
fireman
or
a
policeman
or
a
baseball
player.
Did
you
say
I
want
to
be
a
sign
painter
when
I
grow
up.
B
A
Yeah
and
I
guess
we
can't
all
be
heroes
because
there
would
be
nobody
left
to
say.
So.
That's
true,
though,
but
oddly
enough,
even
though
your
title
is
signed,
painter,
there's
very
little
if
any
painting
involved
in
your
work.
B
No
that's
correct,
in
fact,
we
don't
use
any
paint
at
all
on
the
actual
signs
we
use
ink.
A
So
you
guys
have
got
computers
you're
designing
all
of
these
signs.
What
kinds
of
signs
stop
signs
yield
signs?
I
mean
probably
any
kind
of
sign
you
can
think
of.
B
That
that's
it
all,
traffic
signs,
parking
signs,
signs
for
parks
and
trails.
We
even
designed
the
banners
for
the
parades.
You
know,
there's
been
times
my
co-worker.
In
fact
he
designed
the
banners.
I
think
when
the
pittsburgh
penguins
won
the
stanley
cup
a
few
years
back,
so
we
have
plenty
of
opportunities.
A
B
That's
true.
That
would
be
fun,
though,
wouldn't
it
you
got
to
stick
to
the
safety
guidelines.
In
fact,
that's
our
responsibility
to
make
everything
required
because
the
city
could
get
sued.
You
know
if
somebody
runs
a
stop
sign,
it's
not
the
right
size
or
you
know
it's
a
little
off
or
if
we
misspell
it,
which
that
rarely
happens.
A
B
No,
oh
well,
there
has
been
you
know
certain
occasions.
Oh
I
I
can't
really
come
up
with
an
example
right
now,
but
maybe
they're.
You
know
there
was
a
no
outlet
where
there
should
have
been
something
else.
You
know
and
oh
yeah.
Well,
you
know,
I
didn't
see
that
or
was
behind
a
tree.
You
know,
there's
there's
always
something,
but
we
get.
We
have
a
lot
of
room
for
creativity.
You
know
city
facilities
all
over
the
place.
They
want
something
personalized,
oh,
that
city,
county
building.
B
B
Never
stops
we
actually
make
about
between
me
and
one
other
co-worker.
We
make
6
000
signs
roughly
a
year,
so
always
something
to
do.
There's
days
where
you
can
bang
out,
you
know
250
signs
in
one
day
using
our
screen
printer
yeah
and
that
never
stops,
and
especially
during
emergencies.
You
know
you've
heard
about
all
the
landslides.
B
B
Yeah
yeah
pretty
much,
but
we
actually
have
this
pre-made
and
those
signs
do
exist.
Maybe
not
in
that
you
know.
Verbiage
form
right
right.
B
Pittsburgh
pennsylvania.
I
grew
up
in
carrick
area,
the
south
hills
slopes
most
of
my
family's
over
that
way
that
side
of
the
river
right
now
I
live
in
the
north
side
of
pittsburgh,
but
I
never
ventured
away.
You
know
all
family
here.
I
just
wanted
to
stick
around
love
the
sports
teams.
You
know
especially
hockey.
That's
my
my
main
sport.
A
And
you
grew
up
in
the
carrick
area.
Now
you
live
on
the
north
side
and
you're
married,
and
you
have
a
new
infant.
B
That's
it
yeah.
She
is
baby,
grace
mccal.
She
is
she'll,
be
eight
weeks
on
wednesday,
we'll
go
for
a
two-month
appointment
on
monday
next
monday.
Everything
is
just
going
great.
She's,
amazing
and
daddy
life
is
a
little
bit
easier
than
I
thought
it
would
be.
B
Maybe
it's
that
I
over
prepared
or
something
because
I
was
never
around
babies
growing
up
and
it's
just
everything's
coming
naturally,
I
mean
her
mom's
doing
probably
90
percent
of
the
work
on
maternity
leave,
but
you
know,
and
then
she's
walking
me
through
certain
things,
but
I
love
it
honestly.
I
love
it
and
I
love
all
the
duties
and
chores
it
comes
with.
B
Changing
the
diapers,
I'm
a
master
already.
B
A
Wow,
so
how
have
you
guys
been
coping
with
kobit
all
this
time.
B
B
Oh
yeah,
absolutely
we
haven't
stopped
at
all.
Even
during
lockdown
we
had
crews
go
in
a
two-man
crew
every
other
day
because
somebody
had
to
be.
You
know,
there's
a
stop
sign
down.
Somebody
has
to
pick
it
up
and
because
we
had
uneven
crews,
I
was
asked
to
go
work
as
an
spm
to
sign
a
pain
maintenance
worker.
A
And
speaking
of
pittsburgh,
neighborhoods,
you
work
out
of
the
strip
district.
That
must
be
a
fun
neighborhood
to
work
out
of.
B
A
Absolutely
so,
how
did
what?
What
did
you
go
to
school
for
was
that
design
so
yeah.
B
So
I
grew
up
my
my
parents
kind
of
I
guess
they
realized.
I
had
some
kind
of
a
talent,
so
they
sent
me
to
rogers
kappa,
which
is
a
middle
school
for
creative
and
performing
arts,
and
I
also
went
to
pittsburgh
creative
and
performing
arts
high
school
and
from
there
I
and
I
kind
of
like
graphic
design,
design
and
just
kind
of
pushed
forward,
went
to
pittsburgh
technical
institute
for
two
years.
I
figured
associates
agree
that
was
enough,
got
my
feet
wet
and
just
get
out
there
in
the
field.
A
B
B
Yeah,
I
I
wasn't
always
with
the
city.
I
actually
did
a
lot
more
at
that
at
the
sign
company
for
about
five
years
and
kind
of
what
I'm
doing
right
now.
A
But
it's
like
to
me:
you
really,
you
prefer
the
city
to
the
private
sector,
at
least
to
that
job.
I.
B
Do
it's
a
nice
stable
job,
especially
with
family?
You
know
I'm
in
a
union
here
and
you
can't
ask
for
much
more
than
protection.
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
so
congratulations
on
that,
but
we
all
have
to
live
our
lives
wherever
the
chips
fall.
So
would
you
recommend
a
career
in
government
service,
I'm
sure
absolutely.
A
I'm
so
it's
sounds
like
to
be
actually
kind
of
feel
a
kinship
to
the
taxpayers
like
you
want
to
serve
them.
Well,
yeah,
I
started
to
say
you
have
any
hobbies,
but
it
sounds
like
hockey
is
an
obsession
and
then
you
have
a
new
child.
So
that's
and
with
your
job,
I
assume.
That's
all
you
have
time
for.
A
Who's,
the
better
hockey
player
you
or
the
mom,
oh
she's,
the
better
hockey
player
good
answer,
but
you
don't
play
against
one
another.
A
B
I've
heard
them
all,
but
the
lady
at
my
dentist
right
now,
she's
always
says
I've
had
it
with
you,
just
just
a
joke.
Sure.
A
A
Welcome
back
to
city
talk
here
is
another
gentleman
whose
job
involves
design,
among
other
things,
say
hello
to
live
from
the
print
shop.
Andy
scott
andy,
welcome
to
city
talk,
hey
great
to
be
here.
Thanks
for
having
me
are
you
in
fact
live
from
the
print
shop,
or
did
I
get
that
wrong?
Are
you
at
home.
C
No,
I'm
live
from
the
print
shop
five
days
a
week
monday
through
friday,.
C
Yeah,
it's
probably
been
about
a
month
almost
a
month
and
a
half
now.
A
C
Yeah,
so
we
do
all
the
business
cards
for
all
city
employees,
whether
it
be
police,
firefighters,
inspectors,
you
name
it.
We
do
it
letterheads,
for
you
know
different
council
members
or
the
mayor's
office,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
the
benefit
packets
that
we
send
out
to
different
employees
of
the
city.
A
C
Yeah,
that's
part
of
the
bigger
umbrella
of
the
department,
I'm
in
here
and
I
innovation
and
performance
that
being
communication
technology.
So
we
handle
a
lot
of
the
service
requests
for
not
only
you
know,
print
related
design
stuff,
but
also
we
do.
We
perform
all
the
requests
for
web
design
as
well.
A
C
A
little
bit
of
both,
but
I
I
definitely
would
fall
more
towards
being
an
innovator
because
I
like
to
you
know,
see:
what's
how
things
are
working
and
if
there's
any
way
to
improve
it.
I
like
to
get
myself
involved
and
try
to
find
a
new
creative
solution.
A
C
It's
it's
not
too
soon.
I
would
say
that
we've
definitely
increased
the
color
consistency
between
our
different
copiers
here.
A
So
one
printer
might
the
color
might
not
be
as
bold
or
crisp
right.
C
I
would
say
yeah
I
like
thick
paper,
I
like
cardstock,
I
like
the
stuff
that
you
have.
It
has
a
real
tactile
feeling
to
it.
You
know
that's.
A
Funny
I
like
that
too,
I've
printed
posters
for
shows
I've
done
and
I
always
prefer
there's
some
meat
on
the
bone
with
those
cardboard.
What's
it
called
cardstock
card
stock,
that's
right.
C
Yeah
and
it
lasts
longer
too,
you
know
you
can
hang
it
up
in
your
house
and
it'll.
You
know
not
start
curling
at
the
corners
and
stuff.
So
where
are
you
from
originally
I'm
originally
from
cachockton
ohio?
It's
probably
about
two
and
a
half
hours
west
of
here.
So
halfway
between
here
and
columbus,
ohio,
just
middle
of
nowhere
farm
country,
a
lot
of
amish
people.
C
C
That's
it
right
yeah!
I
I
almost
got
kicked
by
one
when
I
was
a
kid
so
ever
since
those
hooves
came
flying
at
my
face,
I
was
like
just
kind
of
I
mean
I
would
ride
one
again,
but
you
know
because
I
like
to
conquer
my
fears,
but
it's
it's
not
something.
I
look
forward
to
being
next
to
a
horse
or
something.
A
So
you
probably
won't
honor
that
time,
honored
expression
get
getting
back
on
the
horse.
C
B
A
C
To
just
there
should,
I
think
everyone
should
have
a
healthy,
healthy
desire
to
do
the
things
that
they're
scared.
Most
of.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
used
to
want
to
rob
a
bank
when
I
was
a
kid,
but
I'm
still
pretending
to
say
well,
maybe
not
the
ones
that
are
illegal.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
guideline,
so
you
ended
up
in
pittsburgh
because
you
went
to
the
now
defunct
art
institute,
correct.
Yes,.
C
Yeah,
sadly,
I
did
go
to
that.
That
institution
met
a
lot
of
good
people
there.
That's
that's
kind
of
the
thing
that
I
don't
regret
about.
The
whole
situation
was
meeting
a
lot
of
created,
creative,
talented.
You
know
just
very
driven
people.
A
C
Like
one
part
of
it
made
me
sad
thinking,
well,
it's
it's
gonna
be
harder
for
me
to
convince
an
employer
that
I
have
a
college
education,
the
other
part
of
it
was
sort
of
relief.
Knowing
that
you
know,
maybe
some
karma
had
happened
that
you
know
a
for-profit
educational
institution
shouldn't
really
exist
interesting.
C
A
You
got
to
forgive
at
some
point
and
you
worked
for
the
private
sector
prior
to
this
city
job
as
well,
correct.
A
And
our
last
guest
was
one
of
the
signed
painters
who
works
out
of
the
strip
district
and
he
mentioned
enjoying
the
freedom
to
somehow
sometimes
design
stuff.
So
I
imagine
your
design
background.
In
addition
to
your
print
background,
is
coming
really
handy.
C
Yeah
yeah
definitely
I've
done
a
lot
of
different
printing
projects
in
the
past,
mostly
with
self-published
comic
books
and
poetry,
books
stuff,
like
that,
I'm.
C
Yeah
not
like
really
extensive
huge
graphic,
novel
kind
of
stories,
but
I
would
you
know,
do
my
own
little
comics
and
then
I
had
some
friends
who
did
comics
and
poetry
and
stuff,
so
we
would
put
it
all
together
into
like
a
little
anthology,
and
that
was
pretty
early
on
after
after
college,
and
it
was
just
a
good
way
to
get
out
some
creative
energy
and
sort
of
play
with
my
friends
so
but
you're
through
with
comics.
Now
yeah.
C
I
don't
do
a
whole
lot
of
comics
anymore,
more
self-publishing
yeah,
mostly
it's
just
freelance
design
for
posters
or
album
art
stuff,
like
that.
A
So,
were
you
surprised
by
at
least
what
I
consider
to
be
a
fact
that
most
city
workers
are
dedicated
motivated?
You
know
hard-working
people,
or
did
you
expect
a
lot
of
people
with
their
feet
up
on
the
desk
smoke
and
cigarettes,
etc?.
C
C
I
think
that
there
are
main
differences,
obviously,
but
I
think
that
people's
work
ethic
it
pretty
much
translates
whether
you're
doing
something
for
a
company
or
you're
doing
something
for
the
taxpayers.
C
A
You
you
in
fact
interacted
with
pigs
on
an
intimate
level.
Did
you
not
during
the
farm
work
days.
C
Yeah
about
30
of
them,
basically
it
was
just
you
know
it's
it's
a
lot
of
it's
a
lot
of
what
you
would
deal
with
with
dogs
except
you
know,
they're
about
200
300
pounds,
so
they
can
easily
knock
you
over
or
bite
you
or
you
know,
but.
C
Never
bit
me,
actually
they
had
bit
the
the
farmer
since
he
had
been
working
with
them
for
so
long
and
you
know
that's
bound
to
happen
but
yeah.
They
knocked
me
over
a
couple
of
times,
but
so
you
had
to.
A
C
Pigs,
yeah
yeah.
It's
the
whole
process,
yeah.
What
is
that
process?
It's
a
lot
harder
than
hurting
like
say,
cattle,
because
I
mean
with
cattle
you
just
kind
of
generally
get
some
dogs
and
round
them
up,
but
not
so
much
with
pigs,
they're
not
intimidated
by
any
other
animal
except
for
maybe
humans,
and
so
it's
a
lot
of
slapping
them
on
the
butt.
C
B
C
C
A
C
Oh
absolutely
yeah,
I
mean
if,
if
you're
the
kind
of
person
who
you
know
wants
to
do
things
that
are
going
to
impact
even
just
the
smallest
little
details
and
affect
change
for
for
city
government,
it's
it's
a
no-brainer,
you
know
and
if,
if
you
have
that
desire
within
you
to
to
just
put
in
the
work
and
be
helpful,
I
think
then
it's
it's.
A
good
good
career
choice.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
love
to
garden
and
I
love
to
go
hiking
as
much
as
I
can.
A
All
right,
andy,
any
final
words
for
the
humans
out
there
who,
for
some
reason,
watch
city,
channel
pittsburgh.
C
Yeah
stay
tuned
and
you
know
maybe
your
favorite
city
worker
will
show
up
one
day.