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A
Good
morning,
welcome
to
the
may
may
already
May
meeting
of
the
Housing
Opportunity
Fund
Advisory
Board.
It's
customary
that
we
start
with
public
comment
and
we
did
have
a
member
of
the
public
contact
us
and
asked
to
do
a
brief
presentation.
He
sent
a
slide
so
swaying
if
you
could
come
up
and
do
your
presentation,
but
I
do
ask
that
you
keep
it
within
three
to
five
minutes.
B
Thank
you
for
making
this
opportunity
available,
essentially
I'm
here,
to
try
and
advocate
for
increased
funding
in
the
housing
Stabilization
Fund
for
eviction.
Defense,
specifically
whether
or
not
you
end
up
approving
a
project
that
actually
funds
eviction.
Defense
is
a
different
issue,
so,
right
now,
since
this
is
the
allocation
period,
hopefully
we
can
get
a
bit
more
funding
for
eviction
defense
in
the
program.
So
briefly,
a
victim
defense
is
actually
a
pretty
sustainable
and
effective
and
affordable
tool
to
stem
the
eviction
crisis
in
Allegheny
County
and
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
B
Specifically,
here
it
can
prevent
an
oval
or
avoid
evictions,
even
in
cases
where
the
tenant
ultimately
has
to
leave
the
unit.
It
can
smooth
the
transition
process
and
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
most
disruptive
and
lasting
effects
of
an
eviction.
A
study
done
on
a
similar
pilot
program
in
Philadelphia
estimated
a
twelve
to
one
return
on
the
investment
so
for
every
dollar
that
was
put
into
a
fiction
defense.
The
city
saved
on
the
back
end
from
saved
Human
Services.
Lack
of
you
know
not
having
people
pushed
onto
the
streets
or
into
other
more
vulnerable
situations.
B
So,
with
a
3.5
million
program
to
implement
eviction
defense,
they
would
save
over
forty
five
million
dollars
based
on
rough
calculations.
Pittsburgh
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
not
Allegheny,
County,
could
provide
near
complete
eviction
defense
for
around
750,000
dollars,
and
this
is
correlates
with
the
conversations
that
I've
had
with
neighborhood
legal
services
and
what
they
would
be
able
to
do
as
well.
B
So
we
all
know
that
there's
a
huge
there's,
an
eviction
crisis,
it's
been
increasing
as
development
has
been
increasing,
people
have
been
pushed
out.
The
need
for
a
lawyer
is
extreme,
most
tenants
are
unrepresented
and
most
tenants
lose
cases
even
when
they
have
a
legal
right
to
stay
in
various
instances.
I'll
be
brief.
B
This
is
because
tenants
do
not
know
their
rights.
They
often
don't
recognize
that
they
have
right
to
legal
action,
even
when
they're
facing
habitability
concerns
tenants
when
they
do
seek
to
enforce
their
rights,
often
do
so
counter
to
the
actual
procedures
that
are
available
to
them,
such
as
what
they
would
hold
rent
without
actually
doing
it
in
the
proper
way,
which
can
then
lead
to
them
being
evicted
later
on,
even
though
they
were,
they
had
done
nothing
wrong.
B
Eviction
can
be
a
devastating
and
lasting.
Have
a
devastating
and
lasting
impact
on
people's
lives.
You
can
lose
your
job,
miss
doctor's
appointments,
it
leads
to
poor
academic
performance,
etc,
serious,
negative
health
outcomes
and
it's
a
spiraling
path,
spiraling
consequences,
because
an
eviction
record
leads
to
difficulties
in
finding
future
housing.
B
It's
it's
extremely
effective
having
a
lawyer
involved,
not
just
in
the
court
level,
so
not
just
that
the
Magisterial
level,
but
as
early
as
possible
in
the
procedure
just
to
kind
of
ease
the
negotiation
process
between
a
landlord
and
tenant
and
hopefully
avoid
court
altogether.
It's
been
proven
to
be
quite
useful
again
this.
The
goal
here
is
complete
representation,
so
either
extending
the
removal
process.
That's
needed
for
tenants
to
be
able
to
find
step
different
housing.
B
If
that
is
actually
the
only
possibility,
it
also
increases
the
possibility
of
healthy
settlements
and
allows
tenants
to
properly
engage
with
landlords,
as
I
said,
and,
interestingly
enough
been
shown
in
other
cities
to
increase
the
overall
habitability
of
the
housing
stock.
More
generally,
and
in
particularly
the
affordable
housing
stock
within
a
city
and
because
landlords
recognize
that
they
won't
be
able
to
kind
of
neglect
those
requirements,
as
they
do
in
other
instances
where
it's
more
difficult
to
enforce.
B
Could
the
current
state
of
eviction
defense
in
Allegheny
County,
not
just
the
city,
NLS
neighborhood
legal
services
only
has
fourth
full
time
only
had
four
full-time
housing
attorneys
and
they
only
did
appeals
for
people
who
receive
public
support
so
either
in
section,
without
vouchers
or
in
the
housing
authority,
etc.
They
recently
hired
a
lawyer
and
a
social
worker
who
has
had
a
huge
impact
already
the
grant
that
you
all
approved,
lasts.
I,
guess
a
couple
of
months
ago
will
also
go
towards
this
project
where
they
did
kind
of
more
wraparound
services
and
yeah.
B
We
can
see
that
the
lawyers
represented
people,
the
numbers
all
in
here
I
can
share
the
I
already
shared
the
presentation
with
Jessica
and
I'm
sure
she
can
send
out
to
people
as
needed
and
I
should
share
it
with
some
of
you
so
again,
extremely
effective
return
on
investment,
$12
returned
or
saved
for
every
one
input,
and
this
doesn't
even
include
the
here.
We
can
see
the
chart
here.
This
is
that's
just
the
internal
circles.
B
And
yeah,
so
the
proposed
pilot
program
would
and
again
not
asking
for
an
approval
of
a
pilot
program
or
anything
along
those
lines.
It's
more
about
increasing
the
allocation
for
the
housing,
Stabilization
Fund
and
what
happens
after
that
is
up
to
you
all.
If
there's
not
a
program
that
is
about
forward,
if
there
aren't
people
seeking
grants,
it
can
go
to
other
things.
So
it's
more
about
today,
just
looking
for
an
increased
allotment
in
that
bucket.
C
Morning,
yeah
crystal
Jennings
here,
I
want
to
thank
every
one
of
the
advisory
board.
Members
that
attended
the
celebration
on
Tuesday
I
do
believe
we
had
a
good
turnout.
I
think
we
would
have
had
a
better
turnout,
though,
if
the
rain
didn't
hit
when
it
hit,
because
Jessica
did
have
a
couple
of
phone
calls
and
people
texting
me
emailing
me
say
they
couldn't
make
it
due
to
the
rain
and
them
having
to
travel
on
the
bus,
but
I
definitely
appreciate
you
all
being
there
in
support
of
the
events.
C
I
also
wanted
to
mention,
because
I'm
looking
at
the
agenda
so
now
the
order
itself
I
do
have
a
little
bit
of
involvement
in
that
they
came
to
Penn
Plaza,
supporting
Action
Coalition
to
help
with
the
unit's
going
to
be
47
units
37
of
the
affordable,
so
they're
asking
Penn
Plaza
to
help
them
and
getting
criteria
for
the
return
residents
of
Penn
Plaza
site.
So
whatever
they're
asking
for
you
guys
could
talk
it
over,
but
I
appreciate.
If
you
can
go
ahead
and
pass
that
through,
so
we
can
get
moving
going
that.
Thank
you.
A
Those
were
only
two
people
that
signed
to
say
they
wanted
to
do
public
helmet.
Does
anyone
else
want
a
public
comment
at
this
point?
Okay,
thank
you.
We'll
move
forward
to
roll
call
and
did
I
hear
beep
on
the
phone:
okay,
hi,
Richard,
okay,
so
calling
roll
Mina
Andrews
here,
jemelle
Bay,
Richard,
Butler,
Kyle
channel
Polly
here.
D
A
E
E
A
G
A
H
There
were
47
responses
from
an
online
forum
and
also
from
hardcopy
forms
that
Bettina
had
brought
to
some
community
meetings.
We
also
had
five
people
come
up
during
the
event
on
Thurs
when's,
the
event
on
Tuesday
to
either
share
their
feedback
verbally,
which
I
took
down
for
them
or
to
type
some
comments
as
well.
H
H
H
The
process
for
presenting
this
information
to
you
was
to
review
all
of
those
comments
and
their
entirety
to
pull
out
some
of
the
common
themes
and
then
to
match
each
of
those
comments
to
those
themes.
So
if,
if
one
comment
mentioned
more
than
one
thing,
that's
represented
multiple
times
in
terms
of
adjusting
the
annual
allocation
plan
directly,
there
were
comments
to
increase
the
rental
gap
program,
to
decrease
the
rental
gap
program
to
to
increase
housing
stabilization
both
for
eviction
defense
and
for
the
housing
stabilization
program.
More
generally,
and
those
were
split
among
homeowner
and
renter.
H
Increasing
down
payment
and
closing
cost
was
also
supported
by
a
homeowner
and
a
renter.
Increasing
the
homeowner
assistance
program
was
mentioned
by
three
homeowners.
Increasing
Tangled
title
assistance
was
mentioned
by
one
homeowner
increasing
the
for
sale.
Development
program
was
mentioned
by
one
homeowner
changing
the
ami
breakdown
was
mentioned,
although
we
know
that
that's
not
something
that
we
can
do.
I
do
think.
H
That's
something
that
we
would
like
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
consider
to
work
internally
at
the
URA
to
kind
of
bridge
those
gaps
with
other
programs
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
time
and
time
again
was
just
concerned
about
the
administrative
amount
and
I
think
part
of
that
is
because
I
don't
know
if
in
the
beginning,
we
were
communicating
well
enough
that
it's
up
to
and
that
those
dollars
can
go
in
back
into
the
programs.
Once
that
was
made
a
little
bit
more
clear.
H
There
was
also
a
split
of
you
know.
We
should
be
emphasizing
rental
programs,
we
should
be
emphasizing
homeowner
programs
and
then
I'll
leave
the
rest
of
it
to
you
to
review
outside
of
the
meeting
and
then
lastly,
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
slide
about
it.
But
the
the
last
thing
that
there
were
comments
about
we're
just
general
operational
comments,
and
so
that's
a
new
report
and
that's
something
that
we'd
like
to
just
continue
to
refine
both
the
way
that
we're
that
we
operate
and
also
the
way
that
we
communicate
to
the
public
about
those
operations.
H
A
Thank
You
Jamie,
yes,
so
so,
based
on
all
that,
based
on
has
Jamie
said
you
know,
one
person
saying
increase
were
in
on
one
person,
saying
decrease
and
kind
of
back
and
forth
it.
It
appeared
that
the
medium
balance
was
pretty
much
where
we
had
it.
So
we
left
the
plan
the
same
as
what
was
recommended
at
the
last
meeting
and
I.
Now
up
for
discussion.
A
G
Maintaining
the
unit's
would
that
be
something
I
know
we
did
allocate
some
last
year,
but
as
we
look
for
this
year,
we
haven't
singled
anything
out
of
the
stabilization,
but
there's
not
a
huge
pot.
I
mean
to
pull
from
so
since
we
didn't
have
a
full
year
last
year.
What
are
we
possible
to
use
some
from
the
administration?
I
know
you
guys
haven't
figured
out
yeah.
A
I
really
want
to
be
in
a
position
in
one
of
the
coming
months,
hopefully
in
June
to
go
over
to
administration
with
you,
where
you
know
now
that
we
are
about
a
month
into
the
operation
of
some
of
the
time-sensitive
consumer
loan
programs.
You
know,
hopefully,
in
a
month
we'll,
have
a
better
idea
of
what
that
means
on
our
inspector
side
and
and
our
legal
side
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
or
maybe
two
months
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
internally
at
the
URA.
A
A
Eviction
prevention,
so
I
mean
just
to
to
kind
of
recap
what
we
have
in
2018.
We
have
a
contract
or
we're
in
the
process
of
entering
into
a
contract.
That's
been
approved
by
this
advisory
board
to
neighborhood
legal
services
for
130,000,
I.
Think
for
rental
assistance
for
eviction
prevention
through
through
the
the
HSP
program.
That's
what
we
have
right
now,
also
just
reminding
folks
on
the
timing
of
this
money.
A
So
if
this
committee
comes
to
a
vote
today
in
the
you
are
a
board
follows
next
week,
we
will
then
be
going
to
council,
so
the
council
approvals
you
know-
can
start
at
the
end
of
May,
so
it
will
be
about
the
middle
of
June.
You
know
with
a
final
council
approval
and
then
the
funds
can
be
transferred
sometime
thereafter
to
DRA,
so
we
will
be
able
to
roll
quickly
into
them,
and
I
was
talking
to
some
of
the
providers
through
the
housing
stabilization
program
at
the
fair
on
Tuesday
that
were
telling
me.
A
You
know
this
is
a
new
program.
Nobody
knows,
but
their
estimations
of
when
they
can
spend
the
existing
contracts.
They're
going
into
with
us
is
about
nine
months,
so
we
will
have
this
2019
funds
prior
to
that.
So
of
this
800
thousand
that's
currently
identified.
If
there
appears
to
be
a
need
for
more
evictions,
that's
possible
that
when
we
issue
the
RFP
for
2019,
we
can
put
that
in
there
sense
we'll
still
be
spending
2018
funds
for
the
providers
and
then
2020
we're
really
supposed
to
do
that.
Allocation
in
the
fall.
G
F
To
Swain's
presentation
you
know
the
the
twelve
to
one
right
like
so
I'm
philadelphia.
All
of
those
savings
accrue
to
philadelphia
government
right
because
there's
a
city
in
the
county.
Here
it's
a
little
different
and
the
way
that
works.
So
I
wonder
if
there's
you
know
a
way
to
discuss,
maybe
with
neighbor
illegal.
You
know
the
County,
Human,
Services
kind
of
Health,
Department,
etc
around
you
know
doing
a
pilot
and
a
demonstration
to
sort
of
show.
G
F
E
Think
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
discussion
on
that
in
general.
The
eviction
prevention
fund
I'm
personally
I-
don't
not
really
a
fan
of
it.
I
think
it's
going
to
have
too
many
unintended
consequences
and
we
may
actually
lose
units
as
opposed
to
gaining
units.
So
I
just
think
it's
something
we
need
to
have
a
lot
more
discussion
about
before
I.
Even
talk
about
going
down
that
road.
The
other
thing
just
as
a
point
of
clarity,
the
130
k2
neighborhood
legal
services,
I
thought
that
was
directed
for
tangled
title.
They.
E
I
For
quite
some
time-
and
they
also
have
an
appetite
for
this
and
are
looking
at
some
funding
mechanisms
and
models,
so
I
would
hate
for
us
to
not
have
that
work
incorporated
into
our
conversation.
So
when,
as
Derek
mentioned,
we
do
put
this
on
the
table,
I
would
suggest
who
you
would
want
to
invite
some
of
that
work
into
the
conversation.
So
we
can
be
very
smart
about
leveraging
funds.
J
A
J
J
K
G
L
Morning
what
we
have
before
us
today
is
a
rental
gap
program
request
from
melons
Orchard
Housing
LLC,
which
is
a
single
purpose
entity
that
was
created
by
a
trek
development
group
for
a
mixed
income.
Multifamily
development
in
East
Liberty.
This
project
is
47
units,
37
of
which
will
be
affordable.
Ten
will
be
market
rate,
it's
kind
of
like
a
garden
style,
campus
style
development
on
what's
currently
two
vacant
parcels
or
parking
lots
in
the
Penn
Circle
area
of
East
Liberty
in
adjacent
to
the
new
detective,
the
schoolhouse
electric
building,
formerly
known
as
the
detectives
building.
L
Additionally,
there
will
be
a
priority
for
occupancy
given
to
eligible
former
Penn
Plaza
residents,
which
crystal
mentioned
in
the
public
comment
as
well.
So
this
project
is
in
its
final
stages
of
raising
funds.
The
timeline
to
close
is
pretty
imminent,
probably
in
the
next
month
or
two
from
what
we
understand
and
would
be
expected
to
be
an
operation
around
summer
of
2020.
L
So,
like
I,
said,
37
of
the
47
total
units
will
be
affordable.
The
Housing
Opportunity
Fund
will
have
deed
restrictions
on
24
of
those
units.
Four
of
the
24
units
will
be
rented
to
households
at
or
below.
30
percent,
AMI
and
20
of
the
24
units
will
be
rented
to
households
at
or
below
50
percent.
Ami
of
the
24
hof
deed,
restricted
units,
17
will
be
one-bedroom
units
and
seven
will
be
two-bedroom
units.
L
C
L
Looking
up
at
the
budget.
This
the
total
development
costs
are
around
thirteen
point:
six
million,
with
the
request
to
the
Housing
Opportunity
Fund
today
of
six
hundred
ninety
thousand.
That
makes
up
about
5%
of
the
total
development
costs
that
would
be
coming
from
the
rental
gap
program.
Other
sources
in
the
deal,
as
I
mentioned,
the
you
are
a
housing
loan.
Rhd
IP
is
a
low-income
housing
tax
credit
project.
So
a
vast
majority
of
the
funding
is
coming
from
the
tax
credit
equity
about
10
million.
L
C
L
Late
April
and
we're
confident
that,
should
this
project
move
forward
on
its
expected
timeline
that
it
will
be
properly
funded,
Trek
is
also
providing
supportive
services
at
the
at
melons
orchard.
They've
teamed
up
with
a
group
out
of
Case
Western
Reserve,
known
as
the
national
initiative
on
mixed
income
communities,
as
well
as
trusted
space
partners
to
create
that
service
plan.
As
the
building
heads
towards
operation,
they
currently
offer
similar
services
at
other,
affordable
housing
developments
of
similar
scale
in
in
Crawford
Robertson,
as
well
as
one
against
Gibsonia
as
well.
So
the
benefit
of
this
project.
L
We
see,
obviously
a
significant
need
and
demand
for
affordable
units
in
the
East
Liberty
neighborhood,
so
37
additional
units
is
certainly
of
much
importance
and
the
priority
being
given
to
former
Penn
Plaza
residents
is
also
significant
in
this
project.
And
another
interesting
thing
of
note
is
that
beyond
who's
just
going
to
be
living
on
the
site,
this
project
will
coincide
with
the
reconnection
of
some
streets
in
the
Penn
Circle
area.
Harvard
and
Beatty
streets
will
be
reestablished
to
their
historic
street
grids
and
that
will
also
better
connect.
L
The
residents
of
East
Liberty
with
the
commercial
core
as
well
so,
lastly,
just
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
this
project
was
scored
and
evaluated
the
feasibility
criteria
they
scored
extremely
well
56
out
of
60,
mostly
or
they
did.
We
were
some
of
the
main
facets
of
the
feasibility
criteria,
are
the
capacity
of
the
development
team
and
the
readiness
to
proceed,
both
of
which
trek
scored
extremely
high
on.
We
believe
that
they've
done
similar
projects
in
the
past
and
and
are
ready
to
go
as
soon
as
funding
is,
is
completely
secured.
L
Cost
reasonableness,
it's
mostly
in
line
with
market
experience
and
what
median
costs
are
right
now.
One
thing
I
will
notice
that
it's
very
slightly
like
3%
above
the
median
cost
for
a
new
construction
as
for
pH
FA,
but
this
is
a
kind
of
a
typical
development
being
that
it's
five
different
structures
being
built,
not
just
a
rectangular
apartment
building.
So
we
still.
We
believe
that
it's
a
cost
reasonable
project,
they
scored
10
points
for
having
a
complete
supportive
services
planned
that
appears
to
be
funded
and
moving
on
to
policy
objectives.
L
C
L
A
A
M
A
D
All
of
them
as
well,
which
we
can
provide
but
yeah
we're
working
with
core
for
the
section
3
we're
working
with
the
Penn
pauses
support
and
Action
Coalition
on
the
placement
of
residents
and
kind
of
the
prioritization
who
gets
chosen
first
and
how
that
will
be
determined
and
then
Al.
Di
is
also
just
a
supporting
organization
in
general
for
the
project.
They
don't
have
any
specific
role
in
this
project
and.
N
D
D
G
Just
I
just
want
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
were
we've
been
talking
about
when
we
talk
about
providing
rental
gap
funding
is
making
sure
that
we're
not
like
supplanting
other
options
right
that
they
could
go
to
the
array
for
a
similar
funding
opportunity.
So
we
had
agreed
that
the
funding
would
be
used
for
additional
units
or
to
somehow
get
the
project
more
deeply
affordable.
So
can
you
get?
Maybe
more
staff
would
speak
to
that
like
how
this
is
different
and
how
it
kind.
A
All
of
these
have
had
some
increases
to
their
to
their
gaps.
So
the
home
money,
the
1.6
1.8
that
the
URA
gets
a
year
is
not
enough
to
fill
the
gaps
on
about
three
tax
credit
deals
a
year.
So
all
the
developers
have
been
proactive
with
fair
at
ph
fa,
some
of
them,
depending
on
their
score
ability
have
applied
for
Federal,
Home,
Loan
Bank
and
for
some
other
sources
and
collectively
all
the
funding
partners
are
kind
of
doing
what
they
can
to
get
these
deals.
A
G
C
Your
turn,
okay,
so
whatsoever.
The
last
two
years
I've
been
like
full
body
into
Penn
Plaza,
because
my
father
was
a
former
resident
of
Penn
Plaza,
so
I
have
literally
been
tracking
trying
to
keep
up
with
the
moving
and
movement
of
the
former
pimple
as
a
residence.
The
list
that
I
was
given
to
be
honest,
yeah
from
neighborhood
allies,
does
not
match
what
I've
been
shown.
I've
done
door,
knocking
I've
done
two
mailings
and
when
you
get
displaced
you
do
not
stay
where
that
address
you
originally
gave
two-and-a-half
years
ago.
C
Those
people
are
no
longer
there.
So
what
I've
been
trying
to
do
is
if
I
see
people
out
and
about
other
people
from
Penn
Plaza.
They
reached
contacting
me
and
I'm
trying
to
keep
a
track
of
where
these
people
or
as
of
right
now
there's
about
fat
that
are
still
in
shelters.
So
that's
the
hard
part
of
me
trying
to
find
where
they
or
could
they
bop
around.
Could
you
only
have
a
certain
amount
of
time
frames
to
stay
at
one
shelter?
C
Then
you
have
to
leave
and
then,
after
a
certain
I
might
assign
you
to
come
back.
So
that's
the
hard
part
trying
to
find
people
who
have
people
out
and
were
meeting
Verona
Miraval
like
they're
scattered
so
I've
definitely
been
trying
to
coordinate
where
they
are
giving
them
the
information
of
new
projects
that
are
coming
about
and
them
knowing
that
there
could
be
a
possibility.
You
have
there
a
possible
ability
to
return
to
East
Liberty
break
on
the
street
for
we're
used
to
this.
C
N
M
I
want
to
thank
for
her
work
because
I
think
when
I
see
you
and
know
that
you've
been
in
touch
with
people,
I
know
that
you
put
a
sincere
effort
and
and
I
don't
know
that
that's
true
of
all
the
times
we
hear
from
other
people
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you,
because
I
do
have
a
level
of
trust
with
you.
If.
N
It
would
help
and
I
don't
know
who
I
could
yell
at.
Let
the
residents
know
where
each
other
Corps
represented
those
high-rise
residence,
and
we
couldn't
get
that
information.
We
have
had
to
do
word
of
mouth
and,
as
crystal
said,
you
know
once
these
guys
get
the
vouchers
and
go
I
think
it
should
be
and
I
know
no
public
comments
right
now,
but
I
think
there
should
be
a
way
for
the
city
for
the
county
to
keep
track
of
these
residents.
N
M
Think
the
difficulty
with
that
is
sometimes
people
don't
want
to
be
trapped,
and
sometimes
people
are
happy.
I
am
concerned
about
the
these
residents,
because
I
share
this
story.
A
million
times
my
family
was
displaced
when
the
Civic
Arena
was
built,
they
lived
on
the
hill
district
and
while
the
Avenue-
and
they
family
people
moved
all
over
and
they
did,
they
were
happy
once
they
set
roots
somewhere
else.
M
There's
an
opportunity-
and
maybe
we
could
put
something
on
the
website
or
somewhere
to
let
people
know
that
these
opportunities
are
available.
I
mean
do
more
outreach
on
our
end
to
let
people
know
that
this
opportunity
is
available
and
I'm
very
interested
in
keeping
track
of
how
many
people
we
successfully
placed
in
this
place.
F
K
Okay
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
melons
Orchard
housing
request
for
fren
ttle
gap
program
loan.
A
A
You
know
next,
then
we
probably
should
just
those
of
you
who
have
abstained,
just
stay
seated
one
second,
while
we
do
this
next
item.
This
is
another
time
request.
Extension
we
had
one
last
month
and
we
also
received
a
letter
this
month
for
that
as
well,
and
this
one
comes
from
the
North
Side
Leadership
Conference
for
the
on
behalf
of
Observatory
Hill
Development
Corporation,
who
is
the
owner
and
developer
of
the
five
points
project
in
Perry
hilltop,
and
this
advisory
board
approve
alone
to
them
in
what
is
I,
think
January
and
it
is
expiring.
A
O
O
Subcontractors
are
so
busy
right
now
what
we
learned
with
all
the
construction
activity
going
on
that
they're
simply
not
willing
to
put
the
time
into
a
design-build
process
when
they're
not
assured
that
they'll
get
the
contract,
so
they
either
don't
bid
or
they
give
you
a
ridiculous
number
that
covers.
You
know
any
eventualities,
so
we
punted,
we
said
alright,
we'll
do
the
interior
selectively
demo
to
open
up
all
the
spaces
we
need
to
deal
with.
We
put
our
MEP
engineer
on
it
with
our
architect
and
we
eliminated
design-build.
O
We
designed
it
all
Specht
it
out,
and
the
final
plans
and
specs
will
be
on
my
desk
Friday
and
we'll
be
able
to
go
out
to
bid
this
month.
But
you
know,
rather
than
sign
a
contract
with
what
you
know.
I
felt
were
unrealistic
numbers
from
subs
or
and
not
having
enough
general
contractors
bid,
because
some
subs
wouldn't
do
it.
We
figured
we'll
get
more
and
more
accurate
bids
by
going
this
route.
So
that's
why
we've
done
it.
O
G
L
A
A
P
Like
to
I
go
crystal
sentiment,
been
thinking
all
the
advisory
board
members
who
attended
and
supported
the
event
special.
Thank
you
to
Adrian
for
speaking
on
behalf
of
HOF
in
the
advisory
board
at
the
meeting
as
well.
I
would
like
to
also
thank
Pittsburg
United,
specifically
Celeste,
and
crystal
for
really
helping
with
the
turnout
and
the
marketing
of
the
event,
as
well
as
all
the
your
staff
and
volunteers
and
the
rest
of
the
HOF
team
I'm
in
the
housing
authority.
P
This
event
was
truly
a
collaborative
effort
and
I
appreciate
and
thank
everyone
who
was
involved
in
helping
make
the
event
a
huge
success.
We
had
over
30
organizations
present
I
mean
actually,
if
you
slipped,
if
you
flip
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
just
show
a
list
of
it.
So
these
were
all
the
organizations
that
were
present
at
the
event
we
had
over
175
people
who
attended,
which
included
the
volunteers,
staff
and
organization
partners,
and
we
hope
to
hopefully
host
this
event
again
in
the
future.
P
A
A
Was
really
cool
to
walk
through
the
fair
portion?
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you,
you
know
were
able
to
get
in
that
room,
but
to
see
all
the
people
there
and
we
received
a
lot
of
feedback
afterwards.
Somebody
you
are
a
staff
was
telling
me
that
people
came
up
to
them,
just
thanking
them
that
it
was.
It
was
really
easy
for
them
to
get
all
the
different
resources
that
they
needed
and
they
never
knew
like
how
to
actually
get
to
the
place
they
needed
to
go.
So
that
was
some
pretty
good
feedback.
A
Yeah
I
mean
yes,
we
can
talk
about.
This
was
this
was
very
time-consuming
and
kind
of
expensive
to
put
on,
but
that
is
with
just
just
a
couple
of
points
on
that.
We
are
still
in
the
process.
A
We're
going
to
issue
an
RFP
for
community
outreach
for
people
to
respond
to
an
RFQ,
I'm,
sorry
to
do
different
community
outreach
activities
and
I
also
had
a
Advisory
Board
member
yesterday
make
the
suggestion
to
have
kind
of
a
marketing
committee
which
could
do
a
couple
different
things,
but
I
think
one
thing
you
could
do
is
to
talk
about
about
this
kind
of
thing,
and
we
also
had
you
know
30
vendors
here
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
times
will
be
able
to
pull
them
all
out
across
the
city.
I
M
B
P
P
M
A
We
will
also
email
the
council
offices
and
make
sure
they're
aware
of
the
library
series.
Thank
you
thank
you,
and
so,
while
we're
kind
of
on
the
topic,
I
guess
so
a
couple
things
in
your
packet,
the
colored
chart,
is
something
that
was
hanging
up
at
the
resource.
Fair,
and
this
is
something
Bettina
did
a
wonderful
job
drafting,
and
this
was
sort
of
a
result
of
a
lot
of
the
questions
we
received
in
the
allocation
plan.
Regional
meetings,
which
was
well.
A
A
We
all
know
that
the
legislation
you
know
ties
us
to
50%
ami
from
most
hof
programs,
and
we
have
to
down
payment
program
that
can
go
higher,
but
the
other
ura
programs
have
different
income
limits
based
on
their
funding
source,
for
example,
of
something.
If
a
program
is
funded
by
federal
CDBG
dollars,
it
can
go
as
high
as
80%
ami.
A
Now
the
difference
is
that
perp
is
a
zero
percent
Interest
advertising
loan,
so
people
do
make
monthly
payments,
but
it
is
0%
interest.
The
average
per
pallone
is
about
25,000,
which
is
about
a
$68
payment,
I
think
a
month.
So
it
is
very,
very
reasonable
program
and
you
can
also
see
the
other
programs
that
we
have
there
and
the
suggestion
came
to
me
yesterday
to
have
a
marketing
committee
to
kind
of
talk
about.
How
do
we
message
that?
A
How
do
we
message?
The
fact
that
you
know
we
need
to
you
know,
make
sure
everyone
knows
what
we're
doing
with
HOF
and
then
make
sure
you
know
it's
successful
and
continues
to
be
funded
and
you
know
kind
of
separated
for
those
purposes,
but
also
not
separated
so
much
that
we
don't
know
that
these
other
programs
are
out
there.
One
of
the
programs
that
lots
of
people
were
interested
in
Tuesday
night.
A
They
were
definitely
interested
in
HOF
programs,
but
there's
also
the
you
RA
has
a
happy
program
for
accessibility
and
that
can
actually
go
up
to
120
percent
ami,
so
households
really
90
thousand
or
below
in
the
city
that
need
ramps
and
other
accessible
improvements
can
apply
for
that
program
and
it
is
a
straight-out
grant.
So
we're
trying
to
figure
out
ways
that
when
we
advertise
HOF,
we
don't
leave
these
other
programs
to
the
side.
A
A
A
M
A
Of
goes
hand
in
hand
in
terms
of
getting
volunteers
for
committees
and
so
forth.
You
may
have
noticed
that
we
are
not
really
operating
as
a
seventeen
person
advisory
board
right
now
and
I
wanted
to
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
that.
So
there
are
four
chairs
that
were
expiring.
So
everybody,
when
you
came
in
you
were
assigned
either
a
one
year
two
year
three
year,
four
year
term
and
those
terms
expire,
April,
30th,
yeah,
I,.
M
A
A
M
That
when
we
replace
them
we're
replacing
them
with
people
with
no
dependency
on
public
dollars
or
Foundation
funding,
that's
actually
true.
Independent
voices
from
the
community
I
hope
we
at
least
consider
some
of
that,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
people,
all
wonderful
people,
but
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
you
work
for
or
represent
organizations
that
do
this
kind
of
work
in
the
city
and
I.
M
M
A
To
remind
people
the
process,
the
mayor's
office
makes
a
recommendation
and
that
recommendation
goes
to
City
Council.
There
have
been
people
that
have
approached.
You
are
a
stating
that
either
they
themselves
would
want
to
be
considered,
or
they
know
someone
that
would
whenever
anyone
does
that
we
just
passed
that
information
along
to
the
mayor's
office
for
their
consideration.
A
I
A
D
I
A
Q
D
A
M
A
M
M
J
A
A
A
A
I
I
M
I
B
A
M
The
reason
I
want
to
wait
and
I
mean
you
can
start
the
process,
but
the
reason
I
want
to
wait
before
we
actually
have
a
person
identified
is
because
there
might
be
somebody
on
here
with
that.
We
add
that
has
has
the
capacity
and
is
independent
I
mean,
as
I
mentioned,
almost
everyone.
You
have
an
organization
or
representative
organization.
M
So
to
me,
if
we're
going
to
have
somebody
that
has
that
you're
receiving
public
dollars
or
foundation
dollars
to
me,
you
still
have
somebody
that
you're
accountable
to,
but
I
I
mean
jessica's
accountable
to
the
public
and
I'm
accountable
to
the
public.
I
want
people
that
are
accountable
to
the
public
eye.
I
know
that
she's
doing
a
great
job.
Doing
this
and
I
think
we
put
her
in
a
difficult
situation
because
she
wants
to
be
as
independent
as
possible,
but
I
think
everybody
would
be
in
that
situation.
M
I,
don't
think
any
of
any
of
you
could
speak
truly
independently.
It
may
be-
maybe
you
but
I,
think
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
could
speak
independently
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
when
we
appoint
people
that
they
are
people
that
are
truly
independent
and
even
if
you
are
independent,
that
there's
no
look
of
impropriety
and
they
look
of
something
that
may
appear
that
somebody's,
not
independent,
and
so
it's
just
a
look
of
it.
For
me,
I
want
to
be
totally
independent.
You
can
do
what
you
want.
I'm,
not.
E
E
J
B
B
K
Took
a
pause
and
said,
let's
form
a
committee,
to
think
about
it.
More
broadly.
The
folks
that
are
on
the
committee
are
the
ones
that
volunteered
at
the
table
at
the
time
and
the
goal
is
to
put
together
a
system,
so
people
can
self
nominate,
nominate
others
and
based
on
and
then
that
nominating
committee
would
make
a
recommendation
of
a
shortlist
shortlist.
It's
late
for
the
rest
of
the
government
for
the
rest
of
the
board
to
vote
on
from.
F
C
Know
if
we
did
that,
but
if
you
can
pass
around
the
recommendation
form
that
our
housing
table
has
sent
out,
because
there
is
a
category
for
each
of
you.
So
that's
why
they're
sitting
here,
because
there's
a
category
for
those
particular
areas
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
were
clear
with
that
and
in
regards
I
know,
you
said
you
wanted
people
to
not
I
guess
be
tapping
into
the
city
money
and
things
like
that.
C
G
M
Q
So
that
we
could
be
proactive
about
thinking
about
in
the
community
who
we
would
like
the
sione
Advisory
Board,
so
things
like
that
we
had
like
concerns,
thinking
about
like
the
tenant
spot,
because
it
hasn't
been
filled,
maybe
have
an
alternate,
because
that's
really
like
a
real
like
person
like
house
woman,
is
saying,
like
maybe
have
an
alternate
and
making
sure
that
that
person
is
being
prepped,
making
sure
that
person
is
really
able
to
sit
at
the
table
and
have
a
real
voice.
So
just
those
things,
those
were
our
concerns.
A
H
So
we've
been
working
since
the
Housing
Opportunity
Fund
has
been
stopped
staffed
in
late
September
to
develop
ways
and
practices
that
will
help
us
monitor,
evaluate
and
report
to
you
on
the
uses
of
the
funds,
the
potential
impacts
of
those
uses
and
and
hopefully
help
you
sort
of
think
through
your
policy
priorities
and
the
way
that
you're
reviewing
the
projects
moving
forward.
All
that
is
to
say
these
are
some
first
steps
that
we
think
will
be
useful
to
you
toward
that
end.
H
I
think
this
is
very
much
a
work
in
progress,
so
if
there
are
advisory
board
members
that
are
particularly
interested
in
the
information
that
we're
looking
at
in
the
ways
that
we
can
present
that
to
you,
please
let
me
know
this
is
my
favorite
thing
to
do
so.
I
have
four
updates
for
you
today.
One
is
about
commitments
and
closings
to
date.
Another
is
an
update
on
where
the
development
focused
projects
are
in
their
processes.
H
The
third
is
an
MWBE
update
and
then
the
fourth
is
an
update
on
the
commitments
that
we've
made
by
broken
down
by
the
various
income
levels
that
we
are
required
to
adhere
to.
So
looking
at
this
first
slide,
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
all
have
in
in
sort
of
keeping
track
of
where
we
are
has
to
do
with
the
commitments
that
we
make
to
organizations
and
then
the
commitments
that
are
then
made
to
households
from
there.
So
the
development
focus,
the
rental
gap
program
is
pretty
straightforward.
H
The
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance
program
is
pretty
straightforward:
the
homeowner
Assistance
Program
and
the
housing
stabilization
program
we're
looking
for
the
best
way
to
kind
of
break
those
pieces
out
for
you
and
then
the
for
sale,
development,
of
course,
being
where
it's
at
in
in
terms
of
the
contracts
is
still
I.
Think
in
the
works.
H
But
what
you
can
see
here
is
that
out
of
the
nine
million
that
are
allocated,
we've
had
eight
point:
nine,
nine
million
in
proposals
from
just
developers
and
organizations
so
not
including
that
down
payment
and
closing
cost
applications.
Out
of
that
nine
million
five
point:
oh
two
million
have
been
committed.
H
0.45
million
have
been
closed.
So
that's
with
the
rental
gap
program
and
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance
program.
I'm
happy
to
share
that
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
had
had
included
fifty
thousand
in
closed
deferred
loans.
As
of
the
time
that
this
was
written,
I
think
that
there's
probably
one
more
after
that
do.
H
We
have
technically
everything
remaining
for
the
homeowner
Assistance
Program,
but
I'm
gonna
give
you
an
update
on
some
applications
that
are
really
close
to
coming
to
fruition
and
then-
and
we
already
talked
about-
what's
left
for
consumers
on
the
housing
stabilization
program.
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
there's
a
there's
a
map
of
the
project,
progress
for
the
rental
gap.
Developments,
although,
as
we
all
know
those
can
those
can
change
pretty
quickly,
including
the
extension
that
we
just
put
together
for
the
closing
for
the
five
points
development.
H
H
Mwbe
report,
so
all
of
our
programs,
as
you
know
in
the
guidelines,
are
required
to
follow
this
MWBE
monitoring.
All
of
the
projects
that
are
eligible
are
currently
in
good
standing
with
the
aureus
performance
and
compliance
department
and
Riverview
Towers
has
committed
to
award
22
percent
of
their
construction
work
to
end
our
MBE
contractors
and
11%
to
WBE
contractors.
Those
both
exceed
the
minimum
standard
that
that
we
have
at
the
Ori
and
that
is
required
by
the
Housing
Opportunity
Fund.
So
I'm
also
very
excited
about
that.
H
Here.
We
have
your
commitments
by
those
income
levels,
both
in
terms
of
dollars
and
in
terms
of
households
or
units,
whatever
the
case
may
be.
So
if
you
look
to
those
bottom
lines
in
grey,
the
total
number
of
dollars
at
30
percent,
am
I
through
rental
gap,
programs
down
payment
and
closing
costs
and
homeowner
assistance
program
is
about
1.7
million
dollars
that
65
percent
of
the
commitments
that
are
made
to
date
at
50
percent
ami.
H
You
have
about
eight
hundred
and
seventy-six
thousand
that's
33
percent
of
commitments
made
to
date
and
then
at
that
eighty
percent
and
I
have
a
hundred
and
fifteen
percent
there,
because
it
is
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance.
That
goes
up
a
little
bit
higher.
You
have
about
48,000
committed
out
from
that
program
and
that's
only
2%
of
the
dollars
that
have
been
committed
so
far.
H
H
J
J
A
I
mean
next
month
we
can
maybe
highlight
the
down
payment,
closing
cost
program
and
show
you
where
those
closings
have
been
because
I
can
say
just
from
memory
of
looking
at
the
files.
The
first
couple
were
in
the
West
End
and
we've
also
seen
a
couple
in
the
South
Hills.
So
we
will
showcase
that
next
month,.
M
A
E
J
G
Asked
it
before,
but
with
the
homeowners
we
have
them
apply
to
the
RA.
It's
just
an
issue
when
you
have
a
pipeline
of
homeowner
instead
of
already,
for
example,
gone
through
we're
having
a
situation
where
you
found
the
rebuilding
Together
you've
applied
the
rebuilding
Together
you've
done
a
scope
of
work
with
rebuilding
Together
they've,
seen
the
house
and
now
we're
saying,
go
to
the
URA
fill
out
their
application.
The
RA
has
to
you
know,
do
another
scope
of
work,
review
and
visit
to
the
house.
G
A
We
have
to
have
an
application
for
documentation,
but
there
is
a
place
in
the
application
for
them
to
put
if
they
have
been
working
with
any
of
the
six
program
administrators
already,
and
we
also
need
applications,
because
we
need
to
do
property
reports
and
we
need
to
get
an
appraisal
on
their
property.
But
if
they're
already
working
with
somebody
we'll
get
it
to
them
as
quickly
as
possible.
And
if
that
group
is
familiar
with
the
house,
it
should.
You
know,
make
the
process
go
much,
but.
K
A
M
You're
right
because
I
think
the
process
you
know
for
anybody,
it's
overwhelming,
especially
when
you
have
to
have
this
kind
of
help,
it's
even
humbling
even
to
get
help
and
they
were
having
all
these
different
things.
I
think
you're,
I,
think
you're,
right
and
I.
Think
I
mean
I,
hear
what
you're
saying.
M
M
I
think
that
you
know
I
really
I,
keep
saying
this
over
and
over
I'd
like
to
see
us
collaborate
a
little
bit
more
with
our
magistrates,
because
a
lot
of
times
people
are
in
house
in
court
for
things
they
just
simply
cannot
afford,
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
us
collaborate
a
little
bit
to
really
help
people
that
are
really
in
need
and
in
jeopardy
of
losing
their
homes.
Before.
M
K
This
is
a
technology
thing,
but
I
wonder
if
we
need
to
start
to
look
at
data
sharing
and
creating
some
sort
of
web-based
portal.
I
know
that
everybody's
not
on
the
internet,
but
at
least
the
systems
that
are,
they
could
be
uploading,
this
information
into
a
system,
and
then
we
could
all
pull
it
to
do
whatever
it
is
that
we
need
to
do
they.
K
M
K
Into
it,
it's
going
to
reduce
the
amount
that
homeowners
need
to
provide
over
and
over
and
over
again,
so
they
give
it
to
rebuilding
Together
Pittsburgh,
rebuilding
together
Pittsburgh,
but
put
it
into
the
system
it's
like.
Well
now
you
want
to
go
to
the
you
are
a
the
you
are
a
only
need
to
these
three
things:
to
get
you
through
their
process,
not
the
same
thing
you
already
provided.
K
A
Okay,
we
will
work
this
out
over
the
next
couple
months
and
I
will
say
at
the
very
thing
diamante
talked
about
is
what
we've
been
talking
about
regarding
the
house
and
stabilization
program,
the
one
with
the
emergency
rental
assistance.
We
are
trying
to
figure
out.
We
we
just
just
to
give
you
an
update
on
that
jamie
vitina
and
I
met
with
the
Urban
League
for
half
a
day
and
started
to
understand
their
systems,
and
Jamie
and
Bettina
are
gonna,
look
at
the
other
providers
and
understand
their
systems
and
figure
out
a
way
for
that
program.
H
A
Only
other
comment,
I
will
say,
though,
is
I.
I,
think
the
home
providers
are
a
little
bit
torn
on
this
particular
concept.
This
idea,
just
because
they
also
this
30,000
program,
is
very
different
than
a
lot
of
the
programs
they
run,
which
was
like
five
thousand
eight
thousand
sort
of
more
emergency
repair,
and
so
I
know.
At
least
two
of
them
have
told
me
they
actually
wanted
a
separate
Africa
application
so
that
they
could
keep
it
separate
from
all
their
other
programs.
So,
okay,
I.
M
A
A
This
is
the
for
self
development
program
and
just
as
a
recap,
we
issued
an
RFP
with
the
URA
for
their
Neighborhood
Stabilization
program.
At
the
same
time,
we
just
got
them
back
on
Friday,
which
is
why
nothing
is
here
for
approval
today,
but
we
did
want
to
give
you
an
update
what
we
did
receive
yeah
so.
L
As
Jessica
mentioned,
the
RFP
was
put
out
with
the
NSP
program,
which
was
being
run
out
of
the
ura
on
behalf
of
the
city.
So
some
of
the
responses
were
for
both
like
the
the
respondent,
is
looking
for:
F
SDP
funding
from
HOF
and
at
espy
funding
or
they're
okay
with
either
funding
source.
So
it's
like
that
1.9
million
is
it's
pretty
close
to
accurate,
but
so
this
sometimes
there
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
tell
exactly
what
somebody
is
looking
for.
L
But
there
was
one
point:
two:
five
million
allocated
for
this
program
about
thirty-eight
properties
that
came
in
through
the
RFP
process
that
are
looking
for
potential
EF
SDP
funding,
so
we'll
spend
the
next
month
vetting
those
proposals
and
also
in
conjunction
with
NSP
program,
so
that
we
could
kind
of
figure
out
how
this
whole
picture
sort
of
looks.
There's
two
million
dollars
available
through
the
NSP
program,
so
that'll.
A
R
A
How
many
of
those
that
said
both
could
potentially
go
in
n
SP
once
we
have
an
idea
of
of
that,
depending
on?
What's
remaining
for
F
SDP,
we
I
may
email
the
advisory
board
and
see
if
anyone
wants
to
put
together
a
really
quick
review
committee
like
we
did
for
HSP
housing
stabilization
program
for
you
to
look
over
those
with
us,
but
I.
Just
we
just
want
to
get
a
better
idea
of
the
total
before
I
asked
for
your
time.
Commitment
on
that
because
we
might
be
you
know,
close
to
the
same
dollar
amount.
K
A
A
Different
but
I
mean
that's
also.
One
reason
why
we
haven't
been
able
to
give
an
administrative
report
to
you
yet
because
we
are
trying
so
some
of
them
ins
time
was
technically
spent
on
NSP
and
not
HOF,
but
moving
forward.
We
don't
know
how
I
mean
it's.
It's
really
easy
to
try
to
say:
let's
keep
HOF
completely
separate
even
from
a
staffing
but
in
practicality.
It
doesn't
always
work
that
way.
So
that's
sort
of
the
other
reason
why
we
haven't
been
able
to
make
that
report
yet,
but.
K
L
L
But
otherwise,
in
this
is
kind
of
why
we
were
able
to
go
out
with
one
RFP
was
they're
relatively
similar
in
kind
of
the
type
of
project
that
they're
going
to
try
to
fund.
So
our
idea
was
to
put
them
out
together.
Some
organizations
might
identify
from
the
get-go
which
program
works
for
them.
Nsp
also
has
a
geographic
requirement.
L
It's
only
in
five
different
areas
throughout
the
city,
whereas
the
HOF
program
is
citywide,
so
some
groups
knew
what
they
were
going
to
fit
into.
Then
they
were
free
to
explicitly
say
that
others,
honestly
might
be
fine
with
either
like
their.
The
terms
are
relatively
similar.
The
affordability
periods
might
be
a
little
bit
different,
but
by
and
large
they're
like
interest
rates,
if
it
was
gonna,
be
a
loan
things
of
that
nature
are
and
in
the
other
requirements
like
MWBE,
that
they're
gonna
apply
to
either
program.
L
So
they
were
similar
enough
that
we
felt
comfortable
kind
of
moving
them
forward
together,
once
we
figure
out
where
they
all
how
it
all
shakes
out.
That's
when
they'll
kind
of
become
separate
in
their
project
management.
If
you
will-
and
some
might
actually
combine
both
funding
sources
well,
we'll
have
to
again
really
dig
into
all
the
proposals
and
see
if
you
know
that,
like
kind
of
double
layering
can
happen,
it
wouldn't
be
happening
together,
but,
like
some
of
our
rental
gap,
deals
have
included
other
ura
funds
but
yeah.
A
Was
the
most
of
them
work
I
mean
I'm,
looking
for
grant
money
to
bridge
the
difference
between
total
development
costs
and
what
they
can
sell
it
for
and
with
the
F
SDP
program
it
is
gonna
have
the
99
year
Ford
ability
period,
the
NSP
has
a
15
year,
affordability
period,
but
but
just
to
recap
what
Evan
said
there
are
geographic
limits
and
there
are
abandoned
and
foreclosed
definitions
for
Anna's
people.
The.
F
A
E
J
F
B
A
L
A
E
One
other
question
so
I've
noticed
in
other
proposals
they
may
recommend
someone
may
apply
for
a
certain
certain
amount
and
a
recommendation
is
a
lower
amount
in
this
case.
If
someone
applies
for
one
program,
would
you
also
potentially
recommend
that
we
actually,
you
know,
allocate
the
funds
from
another
program
if.
A
A
Q
We
were
also
thinking
about
how
the
Advisory
Board
interfacing,
with
the
interfaces
with
the
you're
a
board
and
maybe
having
a
session
together
doing
that.
So
that's
just
something
that
we've
been
thinking
about.
I
know:
Jessica.
We
have
to
talk
more
about
availability
and
rates,
and
things
like
that
so
I'm,
just
on
the
communication
piece
I
think
it
really
works.
Q
Well,
when
everyone's
talking,
when
we
went
to
Philly,
the
housing
authority
went
with
us,
CDC's,
Bob
and
Jessica
and
I
thought
really
effective,
so
we've
been
kind
of
zooming
out
and
looking
at
best
practices
for
trust
funds
and
we're
hoping
that
we
can
talk
about
that
more,
maybe
next
month
and
into
the
summer.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank.
C
A
K
By
the
elbow
and
bring
them
there
and
that's
what
I
really
appreciated,
I
saw
people
that
are
sometimes
disconnected
from
these
systems
in
the
room
and
I
felt
like
the
information
that
was
presented
was
practical
and
digestible
and
respect
that
it
was
a
respectful
presentation
of
where
everybody
is
regardless
and
that's
what
housing
should
be
about
shouldn't
be
about
income.
It
should
be
about.
Everybody
has
a
right
to
live
in
this
city
and
have
real
quality
of
life.
So
I
just
want
to
commend
everybody
who
participated
in
bringing
that
together.
G
A
K
It
was
expensive,
but
the
social
returns
on
investment
are
sometimes
we
have
to
look
at,
not
just
the
dollar
amount
on.
You
know
on
the
account
so
that
investment
I
think
is
very
important
and
we
had
people
reaching
out
to
me
saying:
I
went
and
I
felt
like
it
was.
You
know
a
really
good
event,
so,
outside
of
the
practitioner
bubble,
it
was
good
to
see
that
it.
J
A
B
Q
Q
I'm
celebrating
the
victories
of
the
house
opportunity
fund
kind
of
bringing
in
the
near
tears
of
folks
who
arguing
our
houses
closed
on
as
we
move
along
housing
sticks
and
people
that
are
getting.
You
know
help
that
would
like
to
share
that
so
I
don't
know.
I
know,
there's
been
talk
of
like
press
conferences
and
like
some
sort
of
thing
like
that,
so
I
think
it's
really
really
powerful
and
important
to
celebrate.
Absolutely.