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From YouTube: Our Neighbor's Keeper: Majestic Lane
Description
On this debut episode of Our Neighbor's Keeper, Josiah Gilliam talks with City of Pittsburgh's Chief Equity Officer and Deputy Chief of Staff Majestic Lane.
A
Hello
there
welcome.
My
name
is
Josiah
Gilliam
and
I'm.
The
my
brother's
keeper
coordinator
here
in
the
office
of
the
mayor,
Bill
Peduto
for
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
in
Allegheny,
County
and
I
have
a
guest
today
with
me,
majestic
Elaine,
deputy
chief
of
staff
to
Mayor
Bill,
Peduto
and
chief
offered
a
equity
officer
for
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
Majestic.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
today.
No,
thank
you.
A
B
It
gives
just
a
little
feedback
from
Philadelphia.
Originally,
the
term
West
Philadelphia,
born
and
raised
does
actually
apply
to
me.
So
came
to
University
of
Pittsburgh
for
for
college
in
the
90s
and
really
fell
in
love
with
the
city.
The
city
was
a
lot
different
then,
but
it
still
had
a
really
unique
character
and
really
got
involved
in
a
lot
of
community
efforts
and
a
lot
of
organizing
efforts
at
that
time.
B
So
after
having
that
experience,
one
of
the
big
things
that
I
really
saw
was
what
was
important
to
me,
was
to
be
able
to
mitigate
the
factors
that
young
people
were
going
through
in
their
communities
and
going
through
and
their
families
and
families
that
were
suffering
from
in
the
society.
And
while
I
was
doing
a
lot
of
direct
service.
I
found
that
a
lot
of
the
issues
were
a
little
more
upstream
if
you
will,
and
the
challenge
were
upstream.
So
at
that
point.
B
After
doing
a
lot
of
that
work,
I
actually
started
work
for
a
state,
senator
State,
Senator,
Jim
Furlow,
and
really
focused
a
lot
on
economic
development,
community
development,
sustainability
in
education.
Things
like
that
and
really
got
to
see
the
relationship
between
grassroots
organizing,
which
we
did
a
lot
of,
but
also
legislation
and
also
resource
allocation,
how
resources
get
allocated
to
community
and
things
like
that.
After
that
experience,
I
went
back
into
the
nonprofit
world
for
a
couple
years:
working
around
education,
equity
and
also
around
you
know,
kind
of
communities
and
in
2016
the
mayor.
B
A
A
B
You
know
just
has
a
lot
of
things
happening
in
relationship
to
the
other
cities
that
are
up
and
down
the
seaboard
like
Washington,
New,
York,
Baltimore,
etc,
where
pittsburgh
is
nestled
a
little
differently
and
really
nestled
as
the
Paris
of
Appalachia.
If
you
will
really
like
the
jewel
of
this
area.
B
So
while
there
are
similarities
as
far
as
some
of
the
things
that
are
happening
in
neighborhoods
now,
I
will
say:
Philadelphia
is
undergoing
some
rapid
changes
and
and
Pittsburgh,
maybe
not
as
rapid,
put
some
jarring
changes
in
City
and
the
way
things
have
happened
and
I
just
think.
It's
part
of
how
all
cities
are
evolving,
but
both
of
our
cities
as
being
placed
with
education
looking
at
technology
in
Philadelphia
and
Pittsburgh.
Also
medicine
are
really
big.
B
A
So
you
mentioned
you
had
some
experience
in
the
nonprofit
space
here
and
in
local
government
lot
of
nonprofits
in
the
Pittsburgh
region
and
in
the
county
a
lot
of
foundation
activity
as
well
kind
of
robust
activity
there.
Given
that
background,
how
do
you
view
the
role
of
government
and
then
specifically,
the
role
of
local
government
yeah.
B
B
This
has
been
generally
there's
been
less
aid
coming
to
cities,
so
you
find
that
there
is
a
retrenchment
from
from
cities
writ
large
by
the
federal
government
and
at
the
same
time
now
local
government
has
to
be
more
engaged
and
more
muscular
or
more
robust
to
really
solve
21st
century
challenges
and
those
21st
century
challenges
are
different
than
the
ones
we
had
twenty
and
thirty
years
ago.
But
now
cities
have
to
be
more
nimble
and
also
engaged
in
more
partnerships.
A
So
you
joined
the
team
2016,
yes,
mayor,
Peduto,
relatively
new
mayors,
but
in
you
know
around
for
a
little
bit
at
that
point
he
introduced
this
idea
of
neighborhood
empowerment
and
created
a
bureau,
a
structure
within
the
mayor's
office
to
to
work
on
that.
Can
you
speak
about
what
that
was
the
mentality
that
went
behind
pounding
here
sure.
B
Sure
you
know,
Pittsburgh
is
a
city
of
neighborhoods
in
Pittsburgh
as
a
city
of
community
in
the
city
of
different
communities,
and
when
the
mayor
came
in,
he
made
it
his
his
focus
on
really
looking
at
what
was
going
on
in
neighborhoods
and
making
sure
that
all
neighborhoods
felt
like
they
had
a
voice
downtown
that
all
neighborhoods
felt
like
they
had
a
chance
to
be
dealt
with
equitably.
So
the
Bureau
of
Neighborhood
Empowerment
was
really
thinking
about.
B
A
You
have
this
Bureau
of
neighborhood,
empowerment
and
then
recently,
within
the
past
calendar
year,
you
have
the
formation
of
the
opposite
equity.
Can
you
talk
about
the
shift
or
the
progression
and
philosophy
that
leads
to
the
creation
of
that
office,
specifically
or
perhaps
to
begin
with
around
the
language
that
we
have
to
describe
these
efforts
now,
yeah.
B
I
mean
one
that
think
of
just
to
challenge.
Cities
evolve
right.
Cities
are
living
organisms
right,
they're,
not
they're,
not
static,
they're,
dynamic
and
our
city.
From
the
time
the
mayor
came
into
office
till
now
has
seen
a
lot
of
changes,
positive
and
some
challenges,
some
areas
for
growth
and,
as
we
saw
like
you,
know,
really
focusing
on
the
neighborhoods,
but
also
when
we
started
to
see
displacement.
We
started
to
see
neighborhoods
changing
really
fast
when
you
started
to
see
folks
from
new
places
all
across
the
world
coming
into
neighborhoods.
B
What
we
started
to
see
is
that
as
much
as
it
about
the
neighborhoods
that
it's
really
about
people
and
the
shift
around
that
was
really
having
the
conversation
around.
What
does
it
mean
to
have
a
truly
equitable
City?
And
if
you
start
with
people
being
equitable,
then
we
advance
to
families
having
equity
to
advance
their
communities
having
equity
right.
So
it
was
really
just
to
take
a
step
down
and
go
to
a
more
fundamental
base
to
really
talk
about.
A
B
This
notion:
well,
it's
out
it's
identifying
what
places
that
we're
primary
I
didn't
find.
What
places
were
secondary
and
I
didn't
find
what
places
where
tertiary
in
advancing
those
interests
right,
meaning
again
strong
people
make
up
strong
families.
Strong
families
make
up
strong
communities.
Strong
communities
make
up
strong
cities
when
you
have
any
of
those
that
may
not
be
working
in
concert,
and
you
can
have
some
challenges
so
to
the
things
that
are
relevant
to
trying
to
make
sure
that
our
city
is
full
of
strong
people,
strong
families,
strong
communities,
strong
neighborhoods,
strong
institutions.
B
What
can
we
relieve
you
to
advance
that
so
identifying
and
talking
about
office
of
equity
was
really
our
step
into
the
arena?
If
you
will
to
say
that
these
are
the
challenges
of
21st
century,
and
we
acknowledge
that
they're
all
interconnected.
So
we
will
work
in
an
interconnected
way
to
really
engage
to
move
us
to
that
to
that
kind
of
place
where
we
can
measure,
are
we
advancing
the
interests
of
every
citizen
of
our
city
so.
A
B
Some
time
I
think
it
was
important
just
to
really
one
acknowledge
again:
the
mayor's
vision
and
the
mayor's
leadership
around
knowing
that
things
have
to
change,
sometime
and
being
being
able
to
pivot
being
able
to
be
creative
and
being
able
to
be
nimble,
really
thinking
about
what
is
the
best
way
for
us
to
move
forward
to
deal
with
the
challenges
of
our
city.
How
do
we
really
create
a
one
Pittsburgh
right?
B
How
do
we
create
a
one
you
know,
so
that
was
really
one
important
for
and
then
for
myself,
it's
really
saying:
okay,
you
know
how
can
I
take
my
life's
work
and
then
apply
it
to
a
city
that
I've
come
to
love
and
come
to
see
as
my
whole,
and
you
know
when
you
get
those
kind
of
opportunities
they
don't
happen
often,
but
when
you
get
them,
you
kind
of
look
at
them.
You
look
at
them
strongly
and
you
follow
it
diligently.
A
B
So
our
office
of
equity
is
some
e,
devolving
from
the
Bureau
of
Neighborhood
Empowerment,
really
to
kind
of
focus
really
clearly
I
mean
one.
We
have
the
policy
or
policy
shop
really
looking
at
what
are
the
policies-
and
you
know-
that's
led
by
assistant
chief
Lindsay
Powell,
we're
looking
at
economic
opportunity,
business
inclusion,
Youth
and
then
use
our
youth
section,
children,
youth,
an
education,
you
know
took
an
MBK,
my
brother's
keeper,
so.
A
B
Looking
at
a
wide
variety
of
different
things,
our
welcoming
work,
welcoming
Pittsburgh
work
is
all
underneath
there,
so
really
acknowledging
all
the
kind
of
things
that
contribute
to
making
up
a
strong
city
and
all
the
things
that
contribute
to
making
sure
the
pieces
of
the
puzzle
or
pieces
of
the
brick
that
kind
of
really
roll
up
to
create
a
strong
foundation.
So
well
me
you'll
see
everything
from
us
putting
two
million
dollars
in
for
child
care.
A
B
How
do
we
provide
some
support
to
them
in
the
form
of
loans
and
or
grants
to
be
able
to
build
out
their
infrastructure,
create
stronger
institutions
that
then
our
young
people
will
attend
and
then
filter
into
different
educational
institutions
from
there?
So
that's
an
example
of
where,
while
we
may
not,
you
know
be
charged
with
that.
We
know
that's
an
important
part
of
the
work
that
we
have
to
do.
Yeah.
A
So
you
speak
to
this
idea
of,
so
this
is
engagement
in
the
early
childhood
space
in
this
example
and
you're
talking
about
this
idea
of
providing
this
infrastructure
to
scaffolding
for
what
often
ends
up
being
family
operations
or
even
single
mother
operations
that
have
a
childcare
facility
in
their
home
and
you're,
helping
them
walk
through
a
process
that
puts
them
in
line
for
more
resources
to
continuously
improve
their
operation
in
terms
of
delivery,
but
also
the
environment
that
these
are
happening
in.
Is
it
when
you
talk
with
people
about
the
work
of
the
city?
B
A
B
A
B
A
B
Smaller
cities
may
not
be
quite
a
speed
boat,
but
we
might
be
a
smaller
boat
that
allows
us
to
do
it,
and
also
what's
important.
Is
the
history
of
collaboration
in
the
city,
history
of
people
really
getting
at
a
table
and
kind
of
identifying
what
our
common
interests?
And
how
can
we
work
together?
And
you
often
hear
the
mayor
talk
about
that
being
the
Pittsburgh
way
and
the
Pittsburgh
way
has
to
be
taken
into
the
21st
century,
so
that
collaboration
now
has
to
be
part
of
our
24
century
perspective.
So.
A
B
A
Individual
there's
a
race
and
gender
lens
focus
on
black
men
and
boys,
a
strong
initial
focus
as
the
Obama
administration
put
it.
So
there's
this
challenge,
that's
that's
given
and
then
here
locally
the
city
and
the
county
mayor,
Peduto
and
County
Executive
rich
Fitzgerald,
accept
the
challenge,
a
demonstration
of
the
Pittsburgh
way
and
that,
in
that
case,
yes.
B
I
mean
that's
a
you
know.
The
MBK
work
is
a
great
example
of
that
and
you
can
look
at
the
the
mayor
and
County
Executive.
Accepting
the
challenge
together,
acknowledging
that
for
many
people
the
borders
of
what
we
understand
as
Pittsburgh
and
different
parts
of
Allegheny
County
are
invisible.
We
acknowledge
them
in
our
role
in
our
oldest
city
employees,
but
they
may
not,
and
so
it's
important
to
acknowledge
that
and
see
that
partnership.
That
is
really
an
important
part
of
what
the
mayor
and
the
county
executive
been
able
to
do,
but.
A
A
B
You
can't
talk
about
them
without
having
a
positive
pathway
for
black
men
and
boys,
many
of
whom
have
often
been
at
the
end
of
many
of
their
quality
of
life,
conversations
and
length
of
life,
even
conversations
in
our
city.
So
you
know
really
looking
at
that
and
being
a
little
more
again
robust
and
a
little
or
muscular
and
really
thinking
about
all
the
things
that
we
want
to
engage
in.
B
It
was
a
natural
thing
to
say
that
we
see
it
as
important
enough
to
make
it
actually
a
part
of
the
administration
and
in
collaboration
with
our
Parks
and
Rec,
acknowledging
that
those
are
our
open
spaces.
Those
are
our
places
that
are
kind
of
like
our
engagement
centers.
If
you
will
really
for
how
we
engage
in
communities,
yeah.
A
So,
just
to
synthesize,
so
you
have
this
local
political
engagement,
you're
the
mayor
and
the
county
executive.
Other
elected
officials
saying
this
work
is
important,
been
them
really
being
the
tips
of
the
spear
you,
you
convene
stakeholders,
leaders
and
different
impact
areas
that
have
a
demonstrated
track
record
of
serving
black
men
and
boys,
but
also
just
strong
community
work.
You
incorporate
youth
voice
at
the
very
beginning
to
help
inform
the
process
to
hear
directly
from
them.
A
You
engage
local
philanthropy
and
you
convene
within
those
impact
areas
to
see
how
work
can
move
forward,
and
sometimes
that's
as
simple
as
just
assessing
from
a
data
perspective.
You
know
where
things
are
at
and
this
will
get
us
back
to
the
office
of
equity,
but
when
you
think
about
about
data
and
the
importance
of
it
when
it
comes
to
the
idea
of
the
opposite
of
equity
or
a
specific
initiative
like
MBK,
how
does
how
does
that
factor
into
your
into
your
thinking?
Well,.
B
I
think
you
know
it's
best
to
be
what
I
would
call
data
informed,
I'm,
not
necessarily
looking
to
be
data
driven,
but
it
you
should
never
take
a
blind
eye
to
data
because
it
really
can
kind
of
give
you
a
road
map
on
what
is
happening
right
and
having
that
level
of
data,
and
that
data
ranges
everything
from
community
engagement
all
the
way
to
research
right.
So
you
know,
centering
people
is
also
centering
their
experience
and
centering.
B
Their
experience
in
this
context
can
really
be
having
conversations
with
community
having
conversations
with
folks
who
have
been
impacted
by
things
to
be
able
to
say
what
is
what
is
your
experience
been,
and
how
does
that
start
to
jive
with
the
data
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
have
the
one
again
that
human
centered
approach,
while
at
the
same
time,
being
rigorous
in
our
ability
to
use
our
resources
in
our
time
to
advance
the
interests
of
the
citizens?
You.
A
B
Well,
I
mean
data-driven
can
make
you
forget
the
human
element
right.
So
if
I'm
data
influenced
and
data
inspired,
then
it
that
gives
me
a
broad
theme
upon
which
then
I
start
to
look
at
the
things
that
are
happening
right
when
I
have
a
theme
of
this
is
what's
happening
to
people
or
this
is
the
trend.
Well,
then,
I
can
get
into
more
of
what's
happening
on
a
macro
on
a
micro
level
rather
with
the
trend,
but
if
I'm
dead
or
driven
I
may
not
pay
attention
to
the
lived
experience
so.
A
B
A
So
you
mentioned
this
idea
through
the
Bureau
of
the
urban
empowerment,
now
the
office
of
equity,
of
being
good
partners
with
communities.
We
give
an
example
of
how,
even
to
the
individual
level
local
government,
the
mayor's
office
city
government,
can
play
a
role.
I
tend
to
think
visually.
This
seems
to
me
to
be
about
you
know,
providing
connection
points
for
people
kind
of
providing
puzzle
pieces
that
let
people
plug
in
with
my
brother's
keeper
and
this
this
lens
of
black
men
and
boys.
B
I
mean
I
think
it's
a
chance
for
a
bigger,
broader
table,
a
table
that
includes
more
people
a
table.
That
includes
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
ways
that
people
have
not
before
it
also
engages.
It
also
entails
our
ability
to
lift
up
the
work
in
there
and
the
time
and
the
experience
of
folks
who
may
not
be
able
to
engage
with
others
in
promotion
and
things
like
that
in
the
same
way.
B
So
it
really
is
the
ability
to
have
a
like
I
said:
had
that
bigger
table
have
folks
figure
out
what
that
table
should
look
like
as
we
advance
the
goal
and
always
keeping
the
goal,
and
that's
where
data
does
come
in
saying.
Are
we
advancing
the
life
expectancy
and
quality
of
life
indicators
of
and
boys,
and
by
doing
that,
we
will
and
also
impact
a
quality
life
and
life
indicators
of
black
families,
and
by
doing
that,
we
will
and
we
will
increase
the
quality
life
indicators
for
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
right.
B
A
B
Just
simply
because
things
don't
happen
in
happened
in
stovepipes
or
in
silos
right,
and
we
know
that
the
world
doesn't
happen
like
that
that
when
we
leave
your
house,
you're
impacted
or
your
apartment,
you're
impacted
by
a
variety
of
factors,
impact
of
how
the
streets
look,
you're
impacted
by
how
the
weather
is
you're
impacted
by
this
data,
the
third
noise
pollution.
You
know
just
a
lot
of
different
things:
who's
going
to
school
who's,
going
to
work
where
all
these
things
impact
you.
So
our
lives
don't
function
in
silos.
B
So
our
government
should
not
function
in
silos
because
then
we
will
be
able
to
miss
the
opportunities
and
mister
possibilities
that
if
we
work
together
so
really
working
together,
interdisciplinary
way,
it's
really
what's
been
shown
as
from
a
national
model
to
really
think
about
these
things.
But
old
habits
are
hard
to
break
yeah,
but
this
is
really
all
again
part
of
the
office
of
equity,
really
walking,
really
walking
the
walk
to
help.
Others
see
why
we
talk
to
talk
right.
A
A
A
What
I'm
wondering
is
you
know
people
want
to
know
what
success
looks
like
and
one
of
the
first
partnerships
I
got
brought
to
bear
through
the
office
of
equity
has
been
this
one
with
care,
and
this
to
me
seems
to
be
a
to
nudge,
the
aircraft
carrier,
whatever
form
of
boat
that
we
are.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
that
partnership
and
what
they
helped
us
do
sure.
B
Sure
so,
gare
being
the
government
Alliance
for
racial
equity,
really
being
an
organization
that
has
it
started
out
of
Seattle
and
their
race
and
social
justice
initiative
and
really
looking
at
what
is
the
role
of
government
in
either
mitigating
the
challenges
around
racial
equity
or
advancing
the
cause
of
racial
equity.
There
are
too
many
examples,
the
name
that
local
state
and
federal
government
have
colluded
to
actually
retardation
equity
and
actually
systemically
whole
communities
back
right,
and
there
too,
we
need
to
name
frankly
well.
B
Well,
documented,
yes,
extremely
well
documented,
and
so
when
we
really
look
at
that,
we
look
at
then
I
think
it's
easy
to
look
at
racial
equity
and
really
look
at
systemic
disinvestment
and
systemic
disengagement
as
an
as
individual
actors
and
as
active
actors
of
individuals
to
do
something
versus
know.
This
systems
actually
colluded
and
the
systems
actually
conspire
to
work
together.
So.
B
One
thing:
just
if
you
were
to
say,
hey,
Bull
Connor
did
this
to
the
folks
who
were
trying
to
go
to
school
in
Mississippi
versus.
There
was
a
system
where
african-americans
and
Latinos
and
Asian's
were
not
working
in.
They
were
not
allowed
to
be
leadership,
so
it
was
reinforcing
the
status
quo.
That
area
and
actually
the
police
departments
and
the
Justice
Department,
as
just
Department
of
police
departments
and
the
sheriffs
of
those
areas,
were
actually
actively
working.
In
that
context,
I
say
you
know.
B
A
B
You
know
mortgages
that
allowed
them
to
move
to
the
suburbs
that
began
the
first
form
of
white
flight
from
cities,
and
it
was
done
on
the
backs
of
you,
know:
US
resources
and
in
government
federal
government
resources.
And,
conversely,
many
black
servicemen
were
not
given
mortgages
and
were
actually
dissuaded
from
getting
mortgages
and
leaving
their
neighborhoods.
So
there's
a
wealth
development
that
occurs
because
of
that,
because
when
you
develop
the
suburbs
with
government
resources,
and
then
people
are
given
mortgages
based
on
government
resources,
what
you
actually
do
is
create
wealth
for
people
out
of
nowhere.
A
It's
interesting
because
in
an
abstract
sense,
this
sounds
like
a
very
progressive
policy:
you're
going
to
use
public
funds
to
not
just
incentivize
but
to
enable
the
acquisition
of
property,
in
this
case
the
building
of
wealth
of
equity.
But
but
if
you
take
a
look
at
it
past
that
level
of
abstraction
you're,
seeing
that
it
can
have
vastly
different
effects
based
on
how
its
implemented.
A
Okay,
let's
zoom
out
briefly
as
we
as
we
wrap
up
here,
so
we
have
a
new
office
of
equity,
but
this
this
idea
this
concept,
is
relatively
new
in
the
national
landscape.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
peer
cities
are
pure
class
that
have
that
have
institutionalized
this
idea
and
of
some
kind
of
office
of
equity.
Then
I'll
ask
some
questions
about
some
learning
that
you've
had
and
get
engaged
in
with
your
colleagues
and.
B
Respect
yeah,
it
is
relatively
new
for
all,
but
a
few
places
but
I
will
say,
there's
been
a
really
big
uptick
in
the
last
year,
I'm
in
the
last
year
alone,
ourselves,
city
of
Pittsburgh
city
of
San
Francisco
and
the
city
of
Los
Angeles,
all
developed
office
of
equity
in
2019,
really
kind
of
pointing
to
cities,
acknowledging
that,
even
in
places
where
you
have
a
large
non-white
population,
you
still
have
racial
disparities.
That
government
needs
to
be
able
to
look
at.
B
So
you
know
some
of
the
peer
cities
that
work
closely
with
Louisville
Albuquerque
New
Mexico,
actually
Austin
Texas,
Minneapolis,
Minnesota,
Portland,
Oregon
Moulton
Alma
County,
which
is
the
county
around
Portland,
Oregon.
Okay,
you
know
in
all
these
places
have
been
thinking
about
this
stuff
a
little
longer
than
us,
but
they
may
not
have
had
the
infrastructure
of
the
ecosystem
that
Pittsburgh
already
has
to
be
able
to
collaborate.
Okay,.
A
B
Of
these
possibilities
of
collaboration
are
already
there,
which
has
given
us
a
leg
up
of
sorts.
If
you
will
so
it's
been
a
lot
of
positive
learning,
a
lot
of
learning
on
best
practices.
Governments
are
really
different,
so
based
on,
where
you're
at
and
what
you
can
do,
based
on
state
statutes
and
preemptions
by
either
county
or
state
government.
It's
really
different,
so
it's
really
identifying.
If
someone
does
something
somewhere
doesn't
mean
you
can
automatically
just
bring
it
in
the
same
way
to
your
city.
A
B
B
A
A
B
A
Doors
away,
yeah,
yeah!
That's
wonderful!
Well,
I'm
grateful
to
be
a
couple
of
doors
away
from
you,
sir
one
last
question
and
we'll
let
you
get
out
of
here
what
a
success
look
like
this
year
for
you
and
I'd
like
that
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
the
mayor's
office
in
terms
of
the
office
of
equity
and
then
I'll.
A
B
At
yeah,
I
think
success
for
us
is
being
able
to.
You
know,
advance
many
of
the
things
that
the
mayor
has
identified
as
a
priority
and
to
be
able
to
work
across
partnerships
and
collaborative
agendas
to
be
able
to
do
that.
I
mean
the
mayor's
definitely
laid
down
some
markers
around
economic
development,
around
sustainability
around
the
role
of
our
parks.
B
So
we
have
that
already
out
there
as
things
that
we
know
that
the
mayor
wants
to
do
right
and
you
know,
as
we
look
to
advance
those
in
the
office
of
equity,
it's
really
to
again
merge
the
data
and
the
human
centered
nature
of
these
things,
so
to
be
rigorous
about
the
data
and
what
we're
doing
and
be
able
to
measure
change.
But
at
the
same
time
to
have
people
know
that
government
is
working
on
their
behalf
right.