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From YouTube: Our Neighbor's Keeper: Trauma In Our Communities
Description
On this episode of Our Neighbor's Keeper, Josiah Gilliam talks with Rev. Paul T Abernathy from the Neighborhood Resilience Project, Kathi R. Elliott from Gwen's Girls, Toya Jones from the University of Pittsburgh, and Davontae Johnson from the Alliance for Police Accountability.
A
Hello
there
good
afternoon
and
happy
friday,
my
name
is
josiah
gilliam
and
I
serve
as
the
my
brother's
keeper
coordinator
and
mayor
bill,
peduto's
office
of
equity
and
it's
my
honor
to
help
facilitate
a
really
exciting
conversation
today
with
some
leaders
in
pittsburgh
in
the
region
in
the
state
of
pennsylvania
that
I
greatly
respect
and
to
really
highlight
some
critical
work
and
some
exciting
developments
that
we
really
think
will
be
encouraging
and
informative
for
a
lot
of
folks.
A
So
without
further
ado,
I
just
want
to
start
with
a
round
of
introductions
to
introduce
all
who's
on
the
call
and
then
we'll
start
with
a
high
level
overview
of
what
we're
going
to
cover
today
and
jump
right
in
so
my
friends.
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time.
A
Just
if
you
would
your
name
your
organization
and
and
the
work
that
you
do
here
in
the
region
and
we'll
start
with
father
paul,
yes,
josiah
so
good
to
be
with
you
and
all
the
rest
of
you
today,
I'm
father
paul
abernathy,
I'm
the
ceo
of
the
neighborhood
resilience
project
and
our
mission
is
to
advance
the
transformation
of
neighborhoods
from
trauma
affected.
Community
to
resilient
healing
and
healthy
community
through
trauma-informed
community
development,
it's
such
a
joy
to
be
with
you
looking
forward
to
the
conversation.
Thank
you
very
much,
dr
kathy.
B
B
in
the
after
school
setting,
and
then
also
in
school
and
in
the
community.
We
have
a
variety
of
different
services
that
we
will
share
later
on
towards
the
end
of
the
this
conversation.
A
Thank
you,
dr
kathy,
mrs
toya.
C
Hi,
hello,
everyone.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
opportunity
and
this
invitation
to
come
and
talk
with
you.
My
name
is
toya
jones.
I
am
a
professor
at
pitt
and
I'm
president
and
co-founder
of
freedom
indeed
llc.
C
C
Where
I
teach
about
trauma,
I
teach
trauma
and
I
teach
those
that
want
to
become
social
workers
and
therapists
within
the
field,
and
so
I
really
see
this
as
a
great
opportunity
to
pull
us
all
together
and
and
talk
about
what
what
we
know
and
what
we
know.
Our
black
folks
and
our
folks
out
there
in
the
community
are
experiencing
and
that's
trauma
on
a
daily
basis.
E
Everyone,
my
name,
is
devonte
or
tay,
and
I
am
the
lead
youth
organizer
with
the
alliance
for
police
accountability
and
we're
specifically,
I'm
specifically
tasked
with
organizing
young
people
from
all
around
the
city
and
and
connecting
the
protests
to
power
and.
D
A
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
for
being
here,
father
paul,
I'm
going
to
turn
to
you,
sir.
You
know
set
the
table
for
us.
You
know
we
heard
that
dr
kathy
mentioned
we're
here
and
toyah
and
the
others
about
here
to
talk
about
trauma
here,
to
talk
about
work,
that's
happening
in
our
communities,
that's
affecting
our
communities
and
to
talk
about
some
exciting
things
that
have
happened
recently.
So
why
are
we
here
and
and
how
would
you?
How
would
you
lead
us
off?
A
Yes,
thank
you.
Just
well
as
dr
kathy
had
mentioned,
trauma
is
a
significant
issue,
certainly
for
many
communities
in
our
region.
We
have
to
talk
about
not
only
the
personal
experience
of
trauma,
but
that
trauma
is
so
widespread
that
that
that
the
impact
of
historical
multi-generational,
complex
trauma
is
very
pervasive
in
many
of
our
communities,
it
has
severely
impacted
health
and
well-being
in
many
of
our
communities.
A
This
is
a
critical
time,
I
believe,
for
this
discussion
because,
of
course,
2020
we've
seen
not
only
a
pandemic,
also
a
racial
reckoning,
much
I
believe,
because
the
pandemic
has
exposed
many
of
the
injustices
that
have
plagued
us
and
the
traumas
that
have
resulted
there
from.
We
know
that
certainly
african
americans,
for
example,
have
died
at
nearly
three
times
the
rate
of
whites
from
covet
19.
If
we-
and
we
can
also
understand
that
those
death
rates
are
higher
in
communities
that
are
formerly
redlined
communities,
this
is
a
direct.
A
This
is
a
direct
correlated
example
of
how
how
policy
in
injustice
and
the
trauma
that
has
resulted
there
from
has
negatively
impacted
health
and
well-being
in
our
community.
A
Now,
here
in
the
state
of
pennsylvania,
we're
at
a
very
unique
time
in
that
in
july
of
2019,
governor
wolf
signed
executive
order
asking
for
essentially
a
a
an
analysis
of
pennsylvania
systems
and
how
they
affect
the
most
vulnerable
pennsylvanians.
This
was
an
extraordinary
step
and
it
has
started
a
wide
degree
of
effort
and
conversation
and
exploration
really
around
this
topic
of
trauma.
We
know
that
trauma
is
so
pervasive
here
in
the
commonwealth.
A
Certainly,
certainly
in
the
in
the
cities
we
have
the
experience
of
trauma
and,
in
particular
in
communities
of
color
disproportionately
experience
of
trauma
also
in
the
rural
areas
of
our
commonwealth.
We
have
experiences
of
trauma
as
well.
A
This
has
this
led
to
governor
wolf,
actually
commissioning
a
trauma,
informed,
think
tank
in
january
of
2020
to
explore
this
issue,
and
the
question
posed
really
to
this
think
tank
was
what
would
it
take
for
pennsylvania
to
become
a
trauma-informed
state
over
the
next
10
years?
What
would
really
it
take
now?
It's
fascinating
because
on
a
national
level,
there's
been
some
movement
around
this
there's.
There's
three
states
who
have
already
made
the
commitment
to
become
trauma-informed
states.
Missouri,
delaware,
wisconsin
have
already
made
that
commitment.
A
We
thought,
though,
perhaps
it
would
be
possible
to
build
on
the
work-
that's
done
in
these
three
previous
states
and
and
and
leverage
the
local
expertise
here
in
pennsylvania
and
try
to
really
put
together
a
plan
that
was
that
we
could
operationalize
at
a
local
level.
There
were
25
thought
leaders
that
were
engaged
by
the
governor's
office
in
this
process
over
over
a
series
about
over
a
period
of
about
four
months,
certainly
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
meeting
reviewing
what
trauma-informed
plans
in
wisconsin,
delaware,
missouri
had
already
existed.
A
Looking
at
what
some
of
the
leading
thinking
around
this
was
as
well
as
really
reflecting
on
the
wide
degree
of
expertise
and
experience.
That
was
a
part
of
the
think
tank.
I
was
privileged
to
have
participated
in
that
process
and
in
july
of
2020
deep
in
the
midst
of
the
pandemic
in
the
context
of
the
racial,
the
racial
reckoning,
that's
happening
in
the
nation.
A
The
plan
was
published,
a
72-page
document,
that's
pennsylvania's,
trauma-informed
plan
the
plan
to
make
pennsylvania
a
trauma-informed
state
over
the
next
10
years.
Now,
if
you
review
that
document,
which
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
do,
although
it's
72
pages,
it's
it's
not
a
very
dense,
read
it's
it's!
It's
72,
we
might
say
loose
pages.
I
mean
you,
there's
there's
graphs
and
things
like
that.
A
So
it's
not
just
dense
reading,
but
I
would
I
really
would
encourage
all
of
our
regional
leaders
to
at
least
review
it
become
acquainted
with
it.
You'll
see
if
you
do
that,
it's
not
really
detail-oriented
but
rather
provides
a
framework
that
with
which
we
hope
work
on
a
local
level
can
not
only
be
incorporated
but
can
contribute
and
participate.
Sometimes
I've
heard
people
say
we
need
to.
A
We
need
to
to
to
ask
the
state
of
pennsylvania
what
they're
doing
so
that
we
know
and
that's
not
how
we
need
to
approach
this
plan.
We
need
to
approach
this
plan
as
an
opportunity
to
build
a
new
pennsylvania.
A
That's
what
I
really
hope
this
plan
is:
is
an
invitation
really
for
pennsylvanians
who
are
doing
extraordinary
work
in
the
realm
of
trauma
and
resilience
to
participate
in
building
a
new
pennsylvania
and
there's
a
lot
of
freedom
for
creativity
and
innovation
in
room
to
incorporate
impactful
initiatives
that
are
already
happening
in
our
in
our
in
our
commonwealth.
A
On
a
local
level,
once
the
plan
was
published,
the
governor's
office
of
advocacy
and
reform
put
together
a
a
collaborative
group
that
is
being
called,
not
the
state
level
heel
pa,
which
stands
for
healing
empowerment,
advocacy,
learning,
prevention,
healing,
empowerment,
advocacy
and
learning
is
what
heals
stands
for
and,
and
the
idea
is
that
there's
a
series
of
action
teams
that
really
comprise
this
this
this
this
organization,
so
the
teams,
I'll
just
review
them
very
quickly
there
are.
A
There-
is
a
number
of
universal
teams
to
include
community
outreach
community
action.
There's
a
policy
and
legislation,
action
team,
there's
a
development
action
team.
This
is
where
we're
talking
about
how
we
can
raise
money
to
fund
this
beyond
that.
There
are
also
targeted
teams.
So
there's
a
training
action
team,
there's
an
education
action
team,
obviously
focusing
on
our
schools.
A
There's
a
racial
and
communal
trauma
prevention,
action
team:
this
is
one
of
the
the
team
that
is
that
I
actually
coach
here:
criminal
justice
reform,
poverty
reduction,
business
involvement,
child
abuse,
prevention,
data
and
evaluation,
organizational
support
and
physical
and
behavioral
health
action
teams.
These
teams
are
currently
now
they
are
now
recruiting
members.
They
have
begun
their
work.
A
They
are
trying
to
really
develop
plans
with
smart
goals,
taking
annual
priorities,
maybe
one
long-term
priority
and
one
short-term
priority,
but
really
so
we
can
move
in
this
direction
now
the
final
piece
that
I
say
that
I'll
say
before
I
turn
it
back
to
you.
A
Brother
josiah,
is
that
as
all
this
was
happening,
the
united
way
of
pennsylvania
also
came
to
the
understanding
that
it
was
time
to
make
a
com
commitment,
as
it
relates
to
trauma
in
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
and
and
in
as
much
as
this
work
has
now
come
out
of
the
governor's
office.
There's
a
partnership,
a
collaborative
partnership,
that's
emerging
between
united
way
of
pennsylvania
and
now
he'll
pa
at
the
governor
wolf's
office.
A
United
way
of
pennsylvania
just
last
week
announced
that
they
are
launching,
what's
called
resilient
pa,
which
is
beautifully
complementary
to
heal,
pa
and
and
I'll.
Just
read
to
you
exactly
resilient
pa
what
it
is.
Okay,
it's
a
nonpartisan
coalition
strives
to
foster
resilient
pennsylvania,
youth
families
and
communities
through
promoting
trauma-informed
care
and
systems
across
sectors,
as
well
as
promoting
efforts
to
reduce
risk
factors
and
increase
protective
factors
for
youth
and
families
to
break
cycles
of
family
and
community
trauma.
It's
very
powerful.
A
This
idea
that
there
are
cycles
of
trauma
that
we're
going
to
make
a
commitment
to
break
the
coalition
exists
to
raise
awareness
on
the
impact
of
trauma.
Aces.
Adverse
childhood
experiences
raise
some
awareness
about
childhood
trauma,
as
well
as
to
raise
awareness
about
trauma
experienced
by
different
cultural,
racial
or
ethnic
groups.
A
There
are
certain
groups
in
the
commonwealth,
certainly
that
historically
have
experienced
trauma
just
by
virtue
of
their
their
their
race
or
ethnicity
and,
of
course,
also
to
promote
the
benefits
of
adopting
trauma-informed
and
resilience,
building
practices
and
strategies
to
address
critical
social
challenges
about
the
community
and
state
level.
We
don't
want
to
talk
only
about
poverty.
We
don't
want
to
talk
only
about
creating
opportunity.
We
want
to
have
a
trauma-informed
approach.
To
do
this.
We
say
in
our
work
neighborhood
resilience
project
that
it's
not
enough
to
create
the
opportunity.
A
We
have
to
have
people
who
are
healthy
enough
to
sustain
that
opportunity.
I
will
close
with
this
review.
This
is
the
statewide
platform
brazilian
pa
intends
to
do
the
following.
It
intends
to
connect
local
communities
engaged
in
or
interested
in,
adopting
adopting
trauma-informed
approach
right
to
be
a
convener,
a
connector
second,
to
highlight
and
share
local
best
practices
in
trauma-informed
care
systems
and
communities.
A
Thirdly,
to
provide
standardized
language.
Sometimes
we
talk
about
trauma
in
different
in
that
word
actually
means
different
things
to
different
people
right.
This
idea.
We
want
to
provide
standardized
language
and
tips
on
how
to
engage
business
leaders
and
elected
officials
as
champions
for
trauma-informed
care,
for
act
as
a
unifying
and
magnifying
vehicle
for
local
communities
and
trauma-informed
care
champions
to
advocate
for
trauma,
informed
and
resilience,
building
policies,
practices
and
funding.
And
finally,
a
resilient
pa
is
is
working
to
act
as
a
key
communication
link
with
heal
pa.
This
is
where
we
want
to.
A
We
want
to
say
that
united
way
has
a
powerful
ability
to
communicate,
and
so
we
understand
that
with
heel
pa,
there
can
certainly
be
a
communication
channel
there
with
heel,
pa
and
grassroots
level
champions
and
advocates
across
the
state.
This
is
a
very
important
time
for
us
as
pennsylvanians.
In
particular,
we
are
in
communities
that
have
been
inundated
with
trauma
for
multiple
generations.
A
If
we,
these
communities
that
have
people
who
are
doing
incredibly
extraordinary
and
heroic
work,
who
are
themselves
already
leaders
and
champions,
this
is
the
time
now.
This
is
the
time
for
us
to
come
forward
and
participate.
This
is
a
time
for
us
to
build
that
that
pennsylvania,
that
we
all
that
that
we
have
to
believe
is
possible.
A
It's
so
wonderful
to
hear
the
story.
Thank
you
so
much
for
sharing.
Let
me
just
speak
back
when
I'm
what
I'm
hearing-
and
I
I
wonder
if
you
would
express
how
locally
people
started
to
rally
around
this-
the
various
initiatives-
so
you
you
see
this
this
moment
of
leadership.
A
The
the
latest
in
an
ongoing
conversation,
including
the
governor,
commissioning
this
think
tank
and
doing
a
national
scan
to
look
at
what
how
other
states
have
approached
this
then
there's
this
acknowledgment
that,
in
order
for
this
work
to
be
truly
successful,
it
has
to
be
connected
to
what's
happening
on
the
ground,
to
engage
with
local
leaders,
local
expertise
so
that
the
solutions
are
are
sustainable,
and
so
they
actually
have
a
chance
of
succeeding.
A
Let's
be
honest
that
there's
that
there's
a
way
to
connect
directly
what
happened
from
then,
because
I
know
we've
been
having
conversations
with
with
local
folks
and
how
do
you
describe
in
general
terms
the
work
that's
happening
in
this
region
from
your
perspective?
A
Yes.
Well
as
as
part
of
this
work,
some
some
watching
today
may
be
familiar
with
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
rob
reed,
who
has
been
heavily
involved,
certainly
with
the
governor's
efforts
even
before
the
governor
did
this
rob
reed
he's
worked
for
the
state
attorney
general's
office
and,
of
course,
the
state
attorney
general
has
had
a
significant
interest
on
the
impact
of
trauma,
as
it
relates
to
the
criminal
justice
system.
Of
course,
many
people
that
have
been
incarcerated
have
significant
trauma
histories
and,
of
course,
the
attorney
general's
office.
A
They
were
well
aware
of
that
rob,
reed
was
more
or
less
commissioned
by
the
attorney
general's
office.
The
state
attorney
general's
office
to
really
travel
across
pennsylvania
and
work
not
only
to
it
to
to
better
understand
this
issue,
but
to
communicate
and
try
to
build
a
network
of
that.
Would
that
could
be
leveraged
to
to
better
address
this.
This
challenge
from
this
work
rob
rob
reed
now,
having
previously
worked
at
the
u.s
attorney's
general's
office
has
has
now
in
the
context
of
heel.
A
Pa
reached
out
to
tamara
collier,
of
course,
is
a
is
our
one
of
our
own
local
heroes,
who
is
so
well
respected
and
and
is
certainly
a
woman
who,
when
she
calls
the
people
answer
and
and
of
course,
rob
understood
just
because,
just
just
as
as
we
all
do
understand
that
really
on
a
local
level,
you
have
to
have
these
local
champions.
A
Tamara
was
you
know,
having
a
relationship
with
rob
was
was
very
eager
to
you
know
to
to
really
join
in
this
work
and
put
out
a
call
to
some
of
what
I
would
describe
as
some
of
the
the
leading
champions
thought,
leaders
and
heroes
of
our
region.
Now
I
want
to
say
it's
certainly
not
an
exhaustive
list.
A
We
know
that
there
are
many
people
who,
let
me
say,
have
not
yet
been
called,
let
me
just
say
not
yet
been
called,
but
it
is
very
beautiful,
beautiful
core
group
of
persons
who
have
come
together,
who
are
I
would
I
would
I
would,
I
could
say,
with
confidence,
they're
leading
our
region
in
in
addressing
some
of
the
most
significant
traumas
and
challenges
of
our
time.
A
These
this
group
that
that
has
now
come
together
around
tamara,
is
looking
at
what
really
the
work
that
has
been
done
locally.
That
is
really
contributing
to
helping
our
region.
What
is
the
work?
That's
being
done
locally,
that
is
trauma
informed,
even
if
it's
perhaps
not
described
first
and
foremost
as
being
trauma-informed,
just,
for
example,
some
of
the
work
that
around
gun
violence
that
kylie
thompson
and
reverend
cornell
jones
and
richard
garland
and
others
are
doing.
You
know
they
might
not
necessarily
describe
themselves
as
being
trauma-informed
when
you
first
hear
them
speak.
A
What
they're
doing
is
extremely
trauma-informed,
so
making
sure
that's
just
one
example
of
what
we
have
in
this
group
to
help
to
help
again
going
back
to
resilient
pa
help,
give
people
the
language
so
that
they
understand
when
they
are
building
resilience
when
they
are
helping
our
communities
heal
from
trauma.
I'm
very
excited
about
this
particular
series
because
we're
going
to
get
a
chance.
I
hope-
and
I
pray
to
hear
from
some
of
these
champions
not
only
about
their
work,
but
I
think
also
for
them
to
model
what
really
it
means
to
do.
A
This
work
in
a
community
level
and
hopefully
understand
that
within
doing
this
work,
it
does
make
a
difference.
It
does
make
an
impact.
Yes,
redlining
has
severely
affected
our
community,
but
just
as
that
is
so
too
the
case
whenever
we
come
forward
with
the
with
the
right
with
the
right
strategies,
with
a
good
heart
with
good
resources,
we
can.
We
can
reverse
the
impact
of
these
of
these
of
these
of
this,
of
these
traumas
negative
experiences
and
even,
moreover,
we
can
build
the
kind
of
resilience
that
helps
us
withstand
crises.
A
You
know
the
cdc
talks
about
social
vulnerability
in
communities
and
if
there's
one
thing
that
we
see
as
covet
19
has
struck
our
community
is
that
that
some
of
our
communities
in
the
commonwealth
have
what
we
call
high
social
vulnerability,
they're
very
vulnerable
they're
vulnerable
as
a
result
of
historical
policy,
they're
vulnerable
as
a
result
of
of
disinvestment
they're
vulnerable
as
a
result
of
racism.
Whatever
and
many
other
reasons,
we
understand
that
we
can
understand,
we
can
know
we
can
reduce
social
vulnerability
in
building
resilience.
A
That's
right
take
the
opportunity
to
turn
to
some
of
our
champions
that
we
have
on
the
call
with
us,
but
I
want
to
acknowledge
what
you
said
in
the
name
that
you
mentioned
earlier,
and
I
would
encourage
folks
to
to
look
up
some
of
these
names
and
organizations,
as
they're
being
mentioned,
because
it's
very
encouraging
and
inspiring
to
learn
about
what
they're
doing,
but
also
because
there's
ever
more
coordination
in
this
space
and
that's
really
giving
us
a
chance
of
being
successful.
A
Reverend
paul
mentioned
tyler
thompson
operation,
better
block
a
return
citizen
himself.
Someone
has
been
a
tremendous
champion:
reverend
cornell
jones
group
violence,
intervention
worked
through
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
I
mean
they're
they're,
responding
they're
intervening
down
to
like
this
specific
instance.
A
You
know
whether
it's
monitoring
social
media
or
monitoring
a
developing
a
situation
in
a
neighborhood
utilizing
relationships
stepping
in
there
themselves
putting
themselves
on
the
line
richard
garland
university
of
pittsburgh
hospital-based
intervention
work-
I
mean
it's
just
really
incredible
stuff,
it's
informed
by
evidence-based,
evidence-based
models
of
national
best
practices,
and
sometimes
folks,
just
don't
know
the
level
of
excellence.
That's
you
know
in
in
our
midst.
I
know
we,
let's
not
make
the
same
mistake
in
this
conversation.
A
I'm
gonna
turn
to
the
rest
of
our
champions
now
and
bring
them
into
the
conversation
toyah.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here,
I
saw
some
some
fond
hand
claps
to
the
to
the
mention
of
reverend
jones,
which
you
know
you
know
what
what
more
can
you
say?
What
are
your
reactions?
What
do
you
hear?
Will
you
hear
father
paul
talking
about
and
then
what's
the
why
that
informs
the
work
that
you
do
as
you
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you've
been
up
to.
C
F
C
A
round
of
applause,
but
I'm
just
really
so
honored
to
be
caught
to
the
table
and
what
is
so
really
cool
is
that
my
husband
was
called
to
the
table
too,
and
we
didn't
even
know
that
we
were
both
called
to
the
table.
We're
like
I
have
a
meeting.
So
do
I
you
know:
tamera
has
juice,
she
has
lots
of
important
friends
and
we
all
came
together.
I've
been
hearing
about
what
just
the
folks
on
this
call
host
included
what
you
all
been
doing
through
the
city.
C
You
know
I
have
a
pleasure
working
with
dr
kathy
for
years
and
then
pull
back
and
work
with
gwen's
girls
right
now.
The
therapy
department
and
I've
been
hearing
just
so
so
so
many
great
things
that
father
paul,
josiah
and
so
nice
to
meet
you
but
hearing
good
things
about
your
organization,
and
so
what
tamera
did
is
she
picked
up
the
phone
and
called
her
friends,
but
not
out
of
you
know
being
pompous
but
saying
we
have
an
issue
here.
C
We
have
a
trauma
issue
on
these
streets
and
in
our
community
with
our
brown
people.
And
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
it?
And
the
way
tamara
knows
me
is
that
I
did
some
trainings
for
the
united
states,
federal
courts
for
the
judges
for
the
attorneys
and
I'm
also
an
expert
witness
for
the
incarcerated
population
for
the
defense
department,
and
so
I'm
still
doing
that
work
with
the
defendant,
and
she
said
everybody
needs
to
hear
what
you're
saying
I
said.
C
Well,
my
students
hear
what
I'm
saying
my
clients,
I'm
a
licensed
clinical
social
worker,
so
I'm
a
therapist
a
trauma
therapist,
so
they
get
to
hear
what
I'm
saying
and
she
said.
No.
Everybody
needs
to
hear
what
you're
saying
and
I'm
probably
the
you
know
most
shy,
extrovert
that
I
know
I
I'm
like.
I
don't
wanna,
say
anything
and
she's
like
come
to
this
group
and
there's
gonna
be,
and
she
mentioned
the
names.
I
said,
wow
I've
been
hearing
about
everything
that
these
folks
are
doing.
C
So
she
pulled
us
all
together
to
say,
let's
get
together
and
talk
about
what
what
we
are
used
to
talking
about
in
our
individual
separate
lives.
Let's
come
together
and
join
forces.
That
is
something
that
we
need
to
see
more
in
our
black
community,
so
we
don't
say
no
to
tamara
and
the
cause
was
amazing
like
well.
Of
course,
I
don't
turn
down
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
people.
You
know
father
paul
mentioned
it.
C
Our
people,
black
people
in
particular,
have
a
historic
line
of
trauma
like
we,
we
endure
trauma,
and
we
say
my
that's
just
everyday
life,
that's
just
what
goes
on
in
the
hood
it
it's
like.
No,
no!
No!
These
are
abnormal
things
that
are
happening
to
normal
people
and
we're
having
normal
responses.
C
So
what
can
we
do?
Well
what
we
can
do
as
trauma
specialists
and
trauma.
Experts
that
are
in
this
group
is
in
part
the
knowledge.
This
is
what
you're
going
through.
This
is
how
you
can
heal,
and
so
these
many
healing
promotions
or
many
healing
groups
and
knowledge
videos
whatever
we
want
to
name
it.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
educate
our
people
in
our
community
about
and
not
just
educate,
but
equip
them
with
the
tools
to
get
through
what
they
are
experiencing.
C
Father
paul
mentioned
covet
and
covet.
Just
I
mean
pumped
up
what
traumatic
you
know:
events
we've
gone
through
as
black
people
covet,
magnified
it
to
ten
thousand.
You
know,
and
so
there
are
resources
that
have
kicked
in
throughout
the
community.
But
what
are
the
resources
that
black
people
can
go
to?
I
remember
when
I
first
started
out
being
a
therapist
black
people
walk
in,
like
I
was
like
whoa
you're
black,
so
we're
already
starting
off,
where
I
could
talk
to
you
and
you
understand,
and
we
don't
have
to
start
off
with.
C
Let
me
explain
my
history
of
oppression,
you
already
know,
and
so
that
really
is
what
propelled
me
even
into
going
into
mental
health
into
therapy
and
how
I
got
into
trauma.
Is
you
know
it
was
a
job
like?
Let
me
get
this
job
and
I'm
working
with
with
these
trauma
folks
and
then
I've
been,
I
began
to
realize
this
is
not
just
a
job.
This
is
your
calling.
A
So
I
hear
I
hear
two
things
there
that
I'd
like
you
to
expound
upon,
if
you,
if
you
would
this
idea
of
of
education
but
then
also
equipping,
so
can
you
talk
about
you
know
in
this
space
what
the
realities
are
around
around
learning
from
from
your
perspective,
you
know,
are
folks
learning
more
about
trauma.
Are
they
taking
into
more
into
consideration
or
what
more
needs
to
be
done
and
then,
when
you
say
equipping
what
is
what
does
that
mean?
A
C
Yeah,
I
I
think,
equipping
I'll
start
backwards
and
then
go
to
to
the
other
one
I
think
equipping
has
to
do
with
first,
knowing
what
you
are
experiencing,
knowing
that
all
the
all
that
junk
all
that
stuff
that
happened
to
you
may
have
left
the
mark
may
have
had
an
impact
and
what
impact
did
it
have
well,
these
behaviors
are
these
things
that
I'm
doing
or
these
things
that
I'm
smoking
these
things
that
you
know.
C
Why
am
I
covering
this
up,
and
why
do
I
have
these
habits
or
why
do
I
have
this
temper
and-
and
that's
just
him-
those
are
those
are
natural
and
normal
trauma,
reactions
to
the
traumatic
events
that
have
happened
or
our
community
has
symptoms.
We
as
individuals
have
symptoms,
and
I
say
we
because
father
paul
mentioned
the
aces
study.
C
The
aces
study
shows
that
there
is
a
very
large
percentage
of
folks
that
have
been
that
have
experienced
trauma
all
through
childhood
well
into
adulthood
and
we're
carrying
it
like
these
really
heavy
backpacks
full
of
books
and
weights
and
we're
and
we're
toting
it
around.
But
we
don't
realize
that
there's
a
freedom
and
healing
that
can
come
through
that
so
tools
and
techniques
on
how
you
can
deal
with
whatever
symptoms.
You
have
symptoms
I
mean
by
if
you
have
so.
C
My
allergies
are
really
whacked
out
right
now,
so
the
symptoms
that
I
have
are
a
little
itchy
nose,
a
headache.
My
eyes
are
itching.
These
are
symptoms
that
I
know
I
have
allergy
issues
same
thing
with
trauma
and
people
have
to
look
at
trauma
as
that,
it's
not
anything
wrong
with
you.
It's
something
that
happened
to
you.
You
got
whatever
blew
on
you
through
you
watching
this
or
you
experiencing
it
yourself.
C
So
what
do
I
do
to
calm
these
symptoms
to
calm
these
racing
thoughts,
and
I
can't
sleep
and
I
can't
eat
and
what
is
going
on,
but
there
are
certain
techniques
and
tools
that
you
can
be
equipped
with
to
help
to
calm
that
part
of
your
brain
and
your
body
down.
So
we
got
together
and
said
we
can
do
an
educational
series
that
talks
about
the
impact
of
trauma
from
a
little
baby,
all
the
way
to
our
older
population
to
our
kings.
Our
queens,
our
older
population,
what
can
we
do
and
how?
C
How
do
we
equip
our
people
with
tools
and
and
how
to
overcome
that?
And
so
we
put
our
heads
together
and
said
these
educational
series,
these
little
mini
series.
These
healing
series
can
help
to
educate
people
about
what
they
are
experiencing
and
then
help
to
give
them
the
tools,
but
then
also
turn
them
on
to
the
resources
where
they're
going
to
walk
in
the
room
and
say
there's
a
black
face,
or
somebody
looks
like
me,
and
someone
understands
what
oppression
is
about
for
me
and
my
people.
A
Thank
you,
you
know
just
listening
to
you
talk.
I
want
to
turn
out
dr
kathy,
because
something
you
said
at
the
very
beginning
was.
This
is
something
that
we
should
be
talking
about,
something
that
is
often
not
talked
about.
I
just
wonder
what
your
reflections
are
so
far
in
the
conversation
we've
had
so
far,
so
you
all
work
so
much
with
various
populations,
but
with
young
people
in
particular.
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
and
you
know
everything
that
father,
paul
and
toya
has
expressed
is
definitely
spot
on
just
shout
out
to
tamara
who
has
brought
us
all
together
and
one
of
the
main
things
that
we
know
is
that
and
it's
not
unique
to
pittsburgh,
but
it
happens
all
the
time
is
that
there's
great
work
happening
in
our
city,
but
it's
so
siloed
and,
like
I
have
a
relationship
with
father
paul.
I
have
a
relationship
with
toyah
that
goes
way
back
and
it's
around.
B
You
know
this
work
and
trauma
and
working
with
young
people,
but
as
a
collective
we've
not
had
an
opportunity
to
come,
come
together
and
so
to
come
together
on
an
issue
that
is
so
important,
not
only
for
you
know
the
adults,
but
our
children,
because
our
children
just
think
about
this
last
year
of
just
the
traumatic
experiences
that
they
all
have,
and
this
is
outside
of
like
just
everyday
stuff.
Like
you
know,
everyday
stuff
is
happening
in
our
communities,
whether
it's
might
be.
Somebody
in
our
family
passes
away
from
natural
causes
or
whatever
not.
B
You
know.
We
tell
we
heard
last
night
about
all
the
gun,
violence
that
happened
in
our
city.
Like
all
these
things
impact
our
our
children
directly
and
indirectly.
We
talk
about
vicarious
trauma,
so
all
the
things
that
they're
hearing
on
the
news
and
seeing
that's
happening
not
being
in
school.
B
You
know
this
covet
19,
it's
just
is
this
has
changed.
You
know
what
usual
things
happen
for
our
young
people
like,
I
feel
so
bad
for
those
that
graduated
last
year
and
are
due
to
graduate
this
year
like
their
high
school
experience,
is
altered
forever
right,
and
so
how
do
they
cope?
How
do
they
deal
with
that?
B
You
know,
I'm
a
person
who
you
know
for
the
past,
like
four
or
five
years
in
the
work
that
we've
done
at
gwen's
girls
and
looking
at
research-
and
you
know
you
know
looking
at
our
terminology,
this
use
the
word
of
resiliency
and
you
know
I
often
struggle
because
I
know
that
there
are
certain
conditions
that
you
know:
young
people,
you
know
people
say
well
she's
resilient.
She
got
over,
she
graduated
well.
B
She
I
mean
these
are
normal
things
that
she
should
have
access
to
and
it
shouldn't
be
like
she,
you
know
made
this
achievement
out
of
barriers
that
shouldn't
even
be
there
in
the
first
place,
but
truly
this
past
year
I
can
say
our
young
people
are
resilient
because
there's
been
so
many
different
things
thrown
at
them.
You
know
that
have
no
cause.
We
would
have
no
idea
that
they
was
going
to
happen
and
they've
co.
B
They
have
been
coping,
however,
some
of
our
young
people
are
struggling
and
have
not
been
equipped
with
the
the
skills
or
even
the
resources
or
know
what
to
do,
because
you
know
yeah,
I'm
supposed
to
be
online
right
now,
but
I
just
don't
feel
like
it.
My
you
know,
I'm
sad,
I'm
not
eating
you
know
or
I'm
overeating,
and
I'm
just
so
hyper
and
I
just
can't
sit
in
front
of
the
camera
and
so
one
day
turns
into
ten.
B
So
now
I'm
back
I'm
behind
academically,
and
so
no
one
is
really
asking
taking
the
time
to
ask
what
are
some
of
these
underlying
issues
that
our
young
people
are
dealing
with
right
and
so
how
to
address
them?
And
so
the
beauty
of
this
collaboration
is
saying:
how
do
we
put
out
materials
that
can
reach
everybody
and
that
parents
can
have
resources
and
the
young
people
can
have
resources?
B
Teachers
and
counselors
can
have
additional
resources.
I
was
on
a
call
earlier
today
and
we
were
talking
about
just
they're,
even
they're,
not
even
in
school,
but
then,
even
when
they
were
in
school,
there
was
there's
not
enough
support
for
social
workers
and
mental
health
support
in
the
school.
So
then,
who
do
they
turn
to
right?
And
so
it's
been,
you
know
just
an
awesome
opportunity
to
start
this
conversation
as
a
collective.
B
Looking
at
that
collective
impact
on
how
do
we,
you
know,
take
an
issue
that
we
know
is
impacting
our
children
and
our
families
throughout
our
city,
and
this
is
indefinitely
in
a
black
community
where
we
traditionally,
we
don't
want
to
go
and
talk
to.
You
know
somebody
about
our
problems,
a
lot
of
problems
with
stay
in
the
house.
B
You
know,
don't
tell
nobody
our
business
and
then,
but
the
main
thing,
too
is
what
toya
talked
about,
and
I
get
it
too,
because
I'm
a
psychiatric
nurse
practitioner
and
when
people
would
come
in
and
see
me
that
you
know
or
know
that
I'm
a
black
therapist
or
somebody
that
can
help
them
with
their
mental
health.
B
They
were
just
so
relieved,
and
so
those
are
the
things
that
are
necessary
for
young
people
and,
for
you
know,
people
in
our
community
to
feel
that
they
are
being
hurt
and
that
their
you
know
issues
will
get
addressed
is
having
people
that
look
like
them
there
to
help
them
and
we,
as
a
community,
can
actually
make
that
happen.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
You
know
something
we
talked
about
in
in
the
lead
up
to
this
conversation,
and
I
think
about
toyo
mentioned
this
idea.
You
said
it
so
well.
I
don't
think
I've
heard
a
quite
phrase
like
that.
A
These
are
abnormal
things
happening
to
normal
people
and
they're
reacting
normally,
and-
and
I
pair
that,
with
this
idea,
I
hear
from
you
doctor,
which
is
that
some
of
these
things
have
been
normalized
some
of
these
traumas
and
and
these
and
these
stressors
can
you
can
you
speak
to
that
and
how
do
you?
How
do
you
approach
you
know
dealing
with
that,
both
in
terms
of
how
you're
serving
people
and,
in
terms
of
you
know,
raising
general
awareness
about
the
work.
B
Yeah,
so
what
we
do
is
you
know,
girls
that
come
through
our
program
and
that
we
have
contact
with
in
the
schools
and
in
the
community
we
give
them
information.
First
of
all,
you
know
just
understanding
that
a
lot
of
things
that
they're
going
through
are
not
their
fault.
B
Someone
talked
earlier
about
this
historical
and
transgenerational
trauma
and
issues
that
our
young
people,
you
know
kind
of
experience
and
just
don't
have
an
idea
that
really
not
to
say
that
they
were
born
into
you
know
some
of
these
inequities,
but
it
is
what
it
is
right,
and
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
you
have
to
you,
know,
be
a
hostage
or
be
you
know,
kind
of
tied
down
or
or
not
be
able
to
excel.
B
Because
of
you
know
some
of
the
things
that
you
have
been
born
into
or
that
exist
in
your
family
or
even
in
your
communities
right
and
so
we
teach
the
girls
first
of
all.
You
know,
especially
at
a
time
in
adolescence,
is
when
you're
kind
of
trying
to
understand
who
you
are,
and
our
society
often
tries
to
tell
our
young
black
kids
who
they
are
and
that
that
narrative
is
not
correct
right.
So
we,
you
know,
try
to
make
sure
that
they
have
some
positive
role,
models
and
positive.
B
You
know
feedback
on
just
who
they
are
and
that
they're
good
enough,
the
way
that
they
are
and
that
they
have
a
voice,
and
you
know
just
helping
them
to
understand
that
you
know
just
because
certain
things
have
been
presented
to
you
in
a
certain
way.
You
have
the
right
to
question.
B
You
have
a
great
mind
to
be
able
to
think
and
process
and
that
your
voice
matters
and
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that
you
know
the
adults
that
are
supposed
to
be
there
to
protect
you
and
to
nurture
you
to
really
call
upon
them
to
do
that
and
then,
but
then,
ultimately,
if
they
have
to
rely
on
each
other,
young
people
have
for
many
many
years.
You
know
their
greatest
their.
B
B
You
know
kind
of
recognize
the
signs
of
need
of
support
or
to
talk
to
somebody,
but
so
that
when
they're
friends
they
see
their
friends
going
through
something
whether
it's
you
know,
depression
anxiety,
unhealthy
relationships
to
give
them
the
resources
of
how
to
you
know,
help
their
friends
to
deal
with
it,
and
that
is
okay
to
ask
for
help
a
lot
of
times.
Our
young
people
don't
want
to
ask
for
help,
because
when
they
do
ask
for
help
is,
is
is
minimized
or
is
it's
not
taken
seriously?
B
One
of
the
things
that
we're
focused
on
with
women's
girls
is
looking
at.
You
know
sexual
harassment
in
schools-
and
you
know
this-
you
know
school
of
prison
pipeline
and
our
girls
being
suspended
because
of
issues
that
are
often
time
are
subjective
and
and
crutched
into
this
disorderly
conduct
type
of
charge,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
oftentimes.
It's
them.
Just
you
know
expressing
themselves
and
some
somebody
that
the
adult
doesn't
like
the
way
that
they
express
themselves,
but
it's
not
a
crime.
B
The
other
thing
that
you
know,
people
we
just
talked
about
earlier
is
that
we
all
deal
with
trauma
and
incidents
differently
right,
and
so,
when
we
see
behaviors
as
adults,
what
I
would
love
to
see
happen
and
I
believe
this
group
is
going
to
make
sure
that
this
happens
and
that
these
coalitions
locally
and
then
statewide
is
going
to
make
sure
that
happen.
B
Is
that
adults
take
the
time
to
hear
and
to
listen
and
to
see
what
is
happening
with
young
people
and
look
at
the
behaviors
as
behaviors
and
not
as
crimes,
don't
criminalize
what
they're
going
through,
and
it
may
just
be
a
moment
they
may
be.
Having
we
all
have
had
a
moment.
Allow
them
to
have
that
moment,
provide
the
support
that
they
need,
or
even
just
leave
them
alone
for
a
little
bit,
but
then
go
back
and
check
up
on
them.
But
please
don't
call
the
police,
please
don't
refer
them
to
the
juvenile
justice
system.
B
That's
what
ours!
You
know
when
adults
don't
know
what
to
do,
or
you
know,
and
including
sometimes
our
parents,
sadly
enough,
but
they
don't
know
what
to
do.
They
call
the
police
thinking
that
that's
going
to
be
the
best
resource
and
that
ends
up
being
not
the
case,
and
the
police
will
tell
you
that
you
know
juvenile
probation
will
tell
you
that
our
system
is
not
equipped
to
to
provide
these
mental
health
or
social
service
supports
that
really
are
called
for
in
these
situations.
A
Thank
you
so
much
yo
today,
I'd
like
to
turn
to
you.
I
see
some
head
nods
and
snaps
on
your
on
your
end.
I
I
have
some
questions
for
you,
of
course,
but
I'd
like
to
just
honor,
what's
been
said
so
far,
and
here
what
reactions
do
you
have
to
to
the
things
that
you've
heard
in
the
conversation
up
to
this
point?
A
E
So,
first
of
all,
I'm
so
excited,
I'm
so
excited
to
be
a
be
in
this
space
with
with
folks
who
have
paved
the
way
for
young
people
to
to
feel
supported
and
safe
and
no
matter
what
capacity
they
come,
whether
it's
at
school
or
in
the
community.
As
I,
I
really
am
grateful
to.
E
Am
grateful
to
hear
that
we
have
folks
champion
who
are
who
who
are
not
currently
in
school,
getting
educated
but
champion
against
the
school-to-prison
pipeline
and
and
relating
that
to
trauma,
because
it's
very
it
is
very
traumatic,
and
so
I
I
guess
I
could
say
for
to
give
it
you've,
given
an
example
of
how
how
the
school
of
prison
pipeline
can
be
traumatic.
E
So
for
me
I'm
from
born
and
raised
in
detroit,
I
mean
I
was
a
student
in
the
detroit
public
school
system
and
my
high
school
was
one
of
the
newer
high
schools
in
the
district.
It
still
is
one
of
the
newer
high
schools
in
the
district,
and
so
from
my
ninth
to
twelfth
to
upgrade
experience.
E
I
walked
going
through
my
the
front
doors
of
my
school.
I
had
three
metal
detectors,
three
security
guards
and
three
police
officers
and
then
like
a
mini
liter,
literally
a
mini
police
station
right
in
the
beginning
of
my
school
in
the
front
front
of
my
school.
E
No,
this
is
not
an
exaggeration
and
in
fact
this
is
the
literal
depiction
of
what
young
people
see
all
across
the
country
and
and
see
here
in
pittsburgh
in
some
schools,
and
so
we
see
that
this,
like
we
see
that
the
disenfranchisement
of
black
and
brown
folks
that
these
these,
these
highly
militarized
budgets
that
are
being
spent
on
to
criminalize
black
and
brown
young
people
for
behaviors
that
are
normal
behaviors
that
are
normal
and
that
we
only
have.
E
I
think
someone
said
on
a
call
on
one
of
our
trauma
for
groups,
calls
that
we
the
only
time
we
get
to
learn
about
behaviors
and
learn
right
from
wrong.
It's
when
we're
young
people,
and
so,
if
we're
charging
us
and
if
we
get
if
we're,
if
we're
getting
put
into
the
sit
into
the
criminal
industrial
system
and
the
juvenile
justice
system,
if
we're
getting
sick
there,
we
don't
even
get
the
opportunity
to
learn.
E
We
don't
get
the
opportunity
to
grow,
we
don't
get
the
opportunity
to
share
space
and
actually
learn
how
to
develop
social
skills
and
then-
and
then
we
revisit
to
this
summer
this
last
summer,
and
we
experienced
the
trauma
around
young
people
before
they
were
sent
home
from
school
because
of
colvin
19
before
they
were
sent
home
from
school
because
kobe
19
they,
these
young
people,
had
police
in
the
schools
already
right,
police
interactions,
seeing
people
these
interactions
on
daily
on
the
street,
and
then
they
see
we're
all
forced
at
home
to
sit
here
and
watch
the
execution
of
of
a
black
man.
E
Yet
again
right,
and
so
the
fear
is
still
there.
The
trauma
is
still
there.
What
happens
when
we
go
back
into
the
schools
right?
E
This
is
how
young
people
experience
a
way
that
young
people
experience
trauma,
and
I
I
really
just
wanted
to
lift
that
up,
and
I
really
wanted
to
say
thank
you
about.
Thank
you
for
being
able
to
champion
for
young
people
who
who
may
not
even
know
about
what
the
school
of
prison
pipeline
is,
because
I
didn't
know
what
it
was.
But
I
knew
when
I
didn't
know
what
it
was
when
I
first
started
this
work,
but
I
knew
it
was
wrong.
E
I
knew
that
there
was
no
way
that
we
should
be
having
this
much
of
a
budget
for
for
surveillance
and
policing
in
our
schools,
but
we
have.
This
is
a
newer
school
to
the
district
and
we
have
some
school
books
that
my
teachers
were
using
when
they
were
students
right,
and
so
we
know
that
that's
not
right.
We
say
we
need
to
be
spending
investing
more
in
the
success
of
young
people
than
the
criminalization
of
them.
A
Well,
we're
grateful
to
have
you
in
the
region
now.
Could
you
share
a
little
bit
more
about
the
work
that
you
do
with
young
people
here
and
how
apa
you
know,
approaches
approaches
this
work.
We
had
an
interesting
conversation
prepping
for
this
call,
and
this
idea
of
of
how
you
all
consider
the
notion
of
trauma,
I
think,
is
very
compelling.
So
would
you
share
a
little
bit
more
with
folks
that
might
not
be
familiar
the
work
you
do
related
to
the
school
to
prison
pipeline
and
with
young
people.
E
Yes,
so
activism,
apa,
the
alliance
for
police
accountability
is
getting
ready
to
launch
a
youth
organizing
institute
for
young
people
all
for
all
across
the
city
to
actually
be
able
to
develop
those
skills.
Those
those
sociable
skills,
develop
those
skills,
the
of
organizing
101
and
base
building,
and
actually
getting
the
historical
context
of
why
people
go
out
into
the
street
getting
their
historical
context.
E
The
breakdown
of
how
these
systems
impact
us
and
so
we're
doing
that
with
a
with
a
trauma-aware
lens
and
so
we're
trying
to
we're
being
aware
of
trauma.
And
so
we
know
that
this
correlates
to
to
correlates
to
our
work,
and
that
trauma
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
fruits
of
of
of
this
tree
that
we're
fighting
it's
one
of
the
troops
and
it's
one
of
the
is
one
of
the
the
the
productions
of
this
of
of
of
like
these
systems
that
we're
fighting
and
it's
the
residue
left
over.
E
And
so
when
we
go
into
this
work,
we're
going
into
this
work.
Knowing
that
trauma
exists
and
we're
going
into
this
work,
patient
we're
going
into
this
work,
knowing
that
we
ourselves
are
still
building
experi,
building
and
growing
from
trauma,
because
trump,
the
trauma
is
not
a
thing
that
we
just
healed
from
day.
One
day.
It's
it's
a
continual
thing
and
it
takes
it,
takes
us
together
to
identify
what
we
are
actually
traumatized
by
identify
that
we
may
be
traumatized
by
these
things.
And
so
we
come
into.
E
We
bring
we're
bringing
folks
into
this
phase
to
make
sure
that
we're
bringing
folks
into
this
space
to
make
sure
that
we're
leading
this
work
with
a
trauma-informed
lens
and
that
people
who
are
actually
us
particularly
skilled
in
this
work
are
are,
are
regurgitating
the
things
that
they
that
they
that
they
learned
and
that
they
know
so
that
our
young
people,
and
that
our
staff
are
are
completely
knowledgeable
of
what's
going
on
and
we
can
be
able
to
operate
and
coexist
together
and
be
able
to
flourish
and
then
and
then
from
there
go
out
into
the
community
and
heal
our
community.
E
And
so
we
have
a
holistic
approach
to
trauma,
which
means
we're
attacking
we're
attacking
every
piece
at
one
time
and
we're
attempting
to
attack
every
piece
at
one
time,
and
sometimes
that
may
look
like
how
can
we
talk
about
getting
food
security
for
young
people
and
invite
them
to
meetings?
And
then
we
don't
have
food
for
them
right.
It's
that
trauma
that
exploitive
and
trauma
the
exploitiveness
causes
the
trauma
like.
I
don't
even
trust
the
movement
space.
No
more.
I
don't
even
trust
the
spaces.
E
That's
trying
to
help
and
so
we're
attacking
the
needs,
we're
attacking
the
we're
attacking
the
needs,
we're
attacking
the
issues
and
we're
moving
we're
moving
power
up
building
power
for
young
people
across
the
city
by.
A
I
love
that,
and
it
makes
me
think
about
the
equipping
conversation
we've
been
having
one
last
quick
question
for
you,
sir,
and
I'd
like
to
turn
to
the
entire
group
for
some
some
closing
remarks,
and
and
just
where
we
go
up
from
here.
How
old
are
you
and
what
is
your
message
to
your
peers
about
this
kind
of
work?
A
You
know
a
lot
of
what
I
hear
you
saying
is
that
you're
you're
engaging
with
folks
where
they're
at
so
you're
focused
on
you
know
providing
care,
love
and
support
in
the
moment.
If
you
were
to
talk
about
you
know
this
group
and
some
of
the
leaders
that
you're
on
the
call
with
today,
how
would
you?
How
would
you
speak
directly
to
them
about
it?.
E
Yes,
so,
firstly,
I'm
20
years
old,
I
just
turned
20
in
november-
welcome
to
the
dub
club
anyways,
so
yeah,
one
thing
that
I
would
definitely
go
into
this
space
and
go
into
any
space
and
talk
about
oh
and
when
I,
when
I
talk
to
my
peers,
people
same
age
as
me,
impacted
by
the
same
issues.
Right
it's
intersectionality
is
a
is
a
is
a
strong
value
for
me.
It's
where
all
of
our
issues
connect,
but
what
I
do
is
I
I
always
tell
folks
is
that
we
should
not
be.
E
E
If
young
people
aren't
informed
how
we
feel
safe,
young
people
should
be
defining
young
people
should
be
defining
what
safety
looks
like
for
us
and
how
young
people
should
also
be
defining
how
they're
traumatized
by
events
and
circums
situations,
because
we
understand
that
a
lot
of
times
we
have
people
speaking
for
us
community.
E
Speaking
for
a
demographic
of
people-
and
it
doesn't
really
relate
to
that,
what
is
really
going
on
on
the
ground
and
so
we're
meeting
people
where
you
like,
where
they're
at
as
you
said,
but
many
people
where
they're
at
and
we're
talking
to
them
and
letting
them
know
like
you
are
the
most
valuable
piece.
You
are
the
most
valuable
piece
to
any
movement
space,
because
this
work
is
about
us.
This
work
is
about
healing
us
together
and
there's
no
us
without
you.
A
It's
so
tremendous.
I
want
to
bring
everyone
back
into
the
conversation
just
for
some
reactions.
You
know
to
what's
been
said:
it's
always
a
special
opportunity
to
have
a
younger
voice
that
can
speak
with
such
passion
and
eloquence
to
these
to
these
issues.
What
are
what
are
some
of
the
reactions
from
from
the
rest
of
from
the
rest
of
you
on
what
you
just
heard,
and
and
and
just
the
work
in
general.
B
Of
this
and
your
voice
and
you
representing
the
the
dub
club
very
well,
you
know
similar.
We,
we
have
a
motto,
we
say
the
same
thing
at
gwen's,
girls,
our
young
girls.
Our
girls
say
that
nothing
about
us
without
us,
and
so
we
have,
you
know,
taken
strides
to
make
sure
that
any
decision,
that's
made
any
program
that
we're
you
know
looking
to
initiate.
We
include
them
in
that,
and
so
just
thank
you
for
you
know
being
here
and
you
know
being
that
representation,
because
it
is
so
important.
B
Many
times,
adults,
systems,
leaders,
people,
make
decisions
and
then
take
the
decision
to
the
people
that
impac
that
are
impacted
the
most
and
say
here.
We
have
something
new
that
we
want
to.
You
know,
give
you
and
meanwhile
to
and
when
I
think
and
I've
been
I
I've
of
this
is
to
we're
two
years
behind
young
people
move
fast.
The
things
that
are
trends
that
are
happening
in
our
communities
happen
so
fast
that
by
the
time
us
adults
get
wind
of
it
and
try
to
get
be
part
of
it.
B
It's
y'all
on
to
the
whole
a
whole
nother
thing,
there's
a
whole
nother
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
so,
if
we
would
learn
and
I've
learned-
and
I
hope
our
listeners
and
people
that
are
watching
this-
learn
that
if
we
include
the
young
people
from
the
very
beginning,
that's
half
the
battle,
they
have
the
solutions,
they
have
the
solutions.
Today
I
watched
the
the
debate
that
was
at
on
westinghouse
high
school,
the
young
people.
B
I
was
most
impressed
with
the
young
people
that
was
running
a
debate
and
I
do
that's
enough
I'll
say
about
that,
but
they
did
a
wonderful
job,
but
we
need
to
do
more
of
that.
I
love
that.
A
Yes,
our
young
people
are
brilliant,
there's,
no,
there's,
no
denying
there's,
no
denying
that
you
know
whatsoever
any
amount
of
engagement
with
them
and
their
ability
to
navigate
systems
and
technology
and
stuff,
like
that,
like
that's
familiarity
with
architecture
and
inability
to
navigate
in
real
time.
That's
what
that
is,
and
if
you
know
sometimes
I
think,
as
things
trends
change
folks
are
like
well,
is
this
really
valuable?
I
mean
those
their
brains
are
firing
when
they're
doing
that,
and
I
think
that's
really
special
toya
father
paul.
C
C
But
I
I
want
to
just
say
you
know
tay
thank
you
for
that,
like
that
was
that
was
amazing
and
you're
such
a
powerful
and
passionate
speaker.
I
could
tell
that
you,
you
talk
what
you
walk
and
walk
with
you
talk,
and
so
I'm
so
glad
to
have
you
at
the
table
as
we
plan
and
as
we
move
forward.
C
C
You
know
something
traumatic
happening
to
you
at
each
developmental
stage
or
at
each
age
level.
We
experience
it
a
different
way.
C
We
take
it
in
and
think
about
it
differently,
because
cognitively
our
minds
are
developing
still
or
the
on
the
other
end
of
developing,
and
so
we
experience
them
differently,
which
means
we're
going
to
have
different
quote-unquote
symptoms
and
different
reactions
to
them,
and
so
young
people,
I'm
so
proud
of
you
for
saying,
like
yeah,
we
we
go
through
some
traumatic
events
too,
and
we
have
issues
or
we
have
things
that
we're
dealing
with
because
of
these
traumatic
events
a
lot
of
times,
young
people
won't
say
that
this
bothered
me,
and
this
really
upset
me.
C
You
know
to
see
this
happen
to
maybe
see
my
mother
be
struck
by
her
significant
other
or
to
see
us
have
food.
You
know,
drought
issues
and
to
to
live
in
poverty
or
to
see
my
brother
get
shot
in
the
street.
You
know
it's
not
bothering
me,
because
in
the
black
community
we're
like
we
stay
strong,
we
go
through
everything.
We've
been
through
slavery.
C
What
you
talking
about
you
know
and
that's
what
we
build
on
we're
strong,
we're
strong,
yes,
we're
strong,
but
how
much
more
can
our
back
hold
my
god
and
so
for
you
to
come
out
and
say,
like
yeah,
we
experienced
that
we
experienced
that
in
the
school
when
we
feel
like
they're,
pushing
us
out
into
the
prison.
We
experience
these
things,
listen
we're
talking!
C
That
is
such
a
impact
and
that's
going
to
make
such
a
difference
when
we're
speaking
to
the
youth,
like
listen
from
every
age
group,
from
from
the
infant
to
the
old
we
experience
trauma,
but
we
experience
it
in
different
ways
and
look
out
for
this.
This
is
what
maybe
we
might
be
experiencing,
but
guess
what
there's
tools?
There's
techniques
there's
ways
that
you
can
heal
and
cope
through
it
at
any
age.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
words
you
said.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
father,
paul,
yeah,
well,
tay.
I
I'm
really
it's
been
quite
an
honor
and
a
blessing
really
to
to
just
see
your
your
your
commitment
and
and
and
clearly
your
perseverance,
your
your
your
talent,
your
intelligence,
your
ability
to
articulate
the
issue
and,
I
believe,
the
the
care
and
concern
that
you
have
for
your
brothers
and
sisters
when
you
articulate
it
is
extraordinarily
powerful.
A
I
think
it's
very
important
when
I
hear
you
speak,
it's
very
important
to
understand.
You
know.
I've
heard
it
once
said
that
history,
you
know
it's
not
something.
It's
not
something
that
happens
to
us
as
much
as
it's
ours
to
write.
F
A
I
think
one
of
the
real
challenges
is
that
sometimes
even
at
a
young
age,
or
especially
at
a
young
age,
this
is
when
we
fall
into
this
false
belief
that
the
world
is
what
happens
to
you
and
and
so
really
the
work
that
you're
doing
is
extraordinarily
important,
because
because
really
the
message
that
you
can
really
make
a
difference,
the
change
is
possible
that
we
find
our
voice
and
maintain
that
unity
and
make
a
collective
commitment
to
collective
healing
that
a
better
future
is
on
the
horizon,
and
I
just
want
to
continue
to
encourage
you
to
really
do
that.
A
A
Thank
you.
I
say
really
wonderful,
okay,
my
friends!
We've
we've
been
talking
for
almost
an
hour
here.
It's
very
clear
that
we
could
spend
probably
many
more
talking
about
this.
We
do
have
upcoming
conversations
where
we'll
do
deeper
dives
on
these
themes
and
really
lean
into
these
intersections
engage
with
expertise,
uplift
voices
and
community
that
are
making
a
difference
here,
but
I'm
just
feeling
edified
by
this.
A
This
conversation
and
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
floor
just
for
final
encouragement
to
folks,
and
this
can
be
to
check
out
your
organizations
or
or
just
in
their
own
personal
wellness
journey.
You
know
as
they're
encountering
life
as
it's
unfolding.
Certainly,
we've
all
had
this
shared
experience
of
code.
That
has
impacted
us.
It
is
hard
for
us.
You
talked
about
the
connectivity
tay
of
intersectionality
that,
where
our
struggles
are
connected,
our
lives
are
connected.
You
know,
I
think,
that's
that
kobe
has
been
clarifying
in
that
respect.
A
When
I
hear
toyah
talk-
and
maybe
it's
just
father
paul
being
on
on
the
call-
but
I
think
of
of
the
notion
of
the
way
of
the
wise
wines
upwards
and
that
you
can,
you
can
encounter
things
at
different
parts
of
your
journey
more
than
once,
but
you
can
also
encounter
them
from
a
different
perspective
as
you
progress
through
life.
So
I'd
like
to
just
open
up
the
table
for
last
a
round
of
encouragements,
just
whatever's
on
your
heart
and
mind
to
share
with
folks
that
are
watching
and
then
we'll
wrap
up.
B
So
I'll
go
first
I'll
just
say
you
know,
and
I've
been
saying
for
the
past
couple
weeks:
it's
been
something
in
all
my
spirit
to
tell
people
just
keep
fighting
like
you
know
it.
You
know.
Sometimes
every
day
is
a
fight.
You
know
and
then
there's
certain
things,
issues
that
you
you
you
have
to
fight
through.
Just
keep
going
just
keep
going
right
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
want
to
lift
up
for
the
group
is
that
this
is
an
open
group.
B
This
isn't
a
select
people
that
only
a
few
of
us
can
participate
in.
If
you
heard
something
that
you
feel
that
you
have
the
expertise
to
help
us
into
moving
this
forward
and
spreading
the
word
and
getting
people
the
help
and
the
supports
that
they
need
to
address
trauma
and
mental
health
issues,
please
you
know,
I
know
that
there's
going
to
be
information
that
is
going
to
be
part
of
this
broadcast
that
you
can
reach
out
and
to
get
involved.
B
We
need
you
that
collective
impact
is,
is
definitely
the
only
way
that
we're
going
to
make
it
through
this
together,
because
we
are
a
community
and
without
all
of
us,
being
at
the
table
and
being
involved,
and
all
of
us
that
have
been
called
to
do
so
and
have
the
skill
set
to
do
so.
We
need,
to
you
know,
help
our
brothers
and
sisters
out,
so
please
get
involved
if
you
feel
you
fit
that
that
call.
E
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
talk
to
any
young
people
who
may
be
watching,
and
I
wanted
to
tell
you
take
that
step.
Go
ahead.
Go
ahead.
Don't
worry,
don't
even
worry
about
what
the
like
people
may
think
about
what
your
step
is.
I
think
I
would
dare
you
to
define.
What
is
your
non-negotiable?
I
would
dare
you
to
define.
Why
are
you
involved
in
this
space?
E
I
would
dare
you
to
define
to
even
look
at
look
at
some
of
the
stuff
that
may
be
normalized
and
look
at
some
of
the
stuff
and
see
break
it
down
and
say.
Maybe
this
really
isn't
right
and
then
ask
yourself:
what
can
you
do?
What
is
it?
That's
in
your
capacity
that
you
can
do,
and
I
wouldn't
tell
you
I
wouldn't
tell
you
to
just
jump
straight
into
an
organization.
I
wouldn't
tell
you
to
just
like
oh
come,
how
come
be
housed
in
apa.
E
E
I
want
to
see
folks
more
informed
about
the
work
that's
going
on
right,
I
want
to
see
folks,
see,
see,
feel
the
investment
like
see
that
this
work
is
real
and,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
leave
with
is
like
we've
seen
over
these
last
four
years
that
people
have
been
making
policies
and
people
have
been
making
things,
making
policies
and
structures
that
impact
us
that
we
are
not
invited
to.
E
We
are
not
invited
to
the
table,
and
I
say,
make
your
own
table
because
we
keep
on
trying
to
recreate
these
systems
and
trying
to
fix
these
systems.
That's
never
worked
for
us
in
the
first
place,
and
so
one
of
our
models
of
apa
is
we're
not
even
before
the
the
reform
we're
for
the
reconstruction
like
we're.
Rebuilding
this
whole
thing
so
that
it
can
work
for
us
and
it's
worked
by
us.
You
understand
this
is
our
thing.
This
is
our
movement
and
I'll,
say
also
say:
take
ownership,
because
this
we
can't
heal.
E
Unless
it's
us
all
together,
we
can't
win
unless
it's
us
all
together
and
you
us
means
ownership
of
your
people.
Us
means
ownership
of
what
you,
what
your
vision
is,
take
ownership
and
drive
drive
it
drive
it,
and
I
promise
you
once
you
take
that
drive
somebody
gonna
walk
behind
you
and
yo
the
people
who's
been
watching.
You
forever
is
gonna
step
behind
you
and
just
go
you're
gonna,
look
back
and
I'm
telling
y'all
from
experience.
You're
gonna,
look
like
your
whole
community
is
backing
you
because
they
were
just
waiting
for
you.
A
That's
powerful-
and
I
just
want
to
just
echo
that
a
little
bit
this
idea
for
folks
that
want
to
get
involved.
Honor
your
curiosity,
honor
your
interests
like
honor,
what
you
resonate
with
there's
a
bunch
of
levels
to
this
game.
We
need
folks
that
are
educated
to
the
next
point
right
once
you
found
what
you're
interested
in
educate
yourself
about
the
landscape
and
what
you
can
do,
but
that's
the
best
place
best
place
to
start.
You
know
it
might
be
with
food,
it
might
be
with
mental
health,
it
might
be
with
policy.
A
C
I'm
just
encouraged
by
this
group.
I
love
what
dr
kathy
said
and
and
if
you
are
hearing
something
you
say
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
that
I've
been
saying.
When
is
somebody
gonna
do
something
when
somebody
gonna
talk
to
us
and
you
got
somebody
and
so
come
on
with
it,
and
you
know,
you'll
be
welcome
with
open
arms.
I
just
really
look
forward
to
the
series
from
this
point
and
what
we're
going
to
be
able
to
bring
to
our
community.
C
You
know
where,
as
as
black
folk
we're
so
used
to
carrying
that
load,
and
I
feel
so
liberated
by
the
fact
that
I
feel
like
we
have
treasure
chests
just
full
of
jewels
that
we're
just
gonna
pass
out
throughout
the
community
and
I'm
very
visual.
So
this
is
what
I
have
in
my
mind
like
this.
Is
this
is
freedom?
This
is
healing.
C
This
is
waiting
for
us,
so
I
just
encourage
people
to
receive
it
as
it
comes
and
really
digest
it
and
then
implement
these
these
you
know
new
ways
and
implement
what
they
learn
throughout
their
family
and
their
friends,
so
that
generation
it
stops
where
your
home
is
it
stops
there.
So
I
really
encourage
people
to
just
embrace
this
movement
as
as
we
gonna
move
so
come
on,
move
with
us.
C
A
Paul
well,
now
is
the
time
this
has
been
an
extraordinary
year
over
the
past
year.
Certainly,
the
pandemic
has
been
extremely
disruptive,
but
I
will
tell
you
it's
a
disruption
that,
although
the
cost
was
very
high,
I
think
has
created
some
opportunity.
We
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
normal
of
incarceration.
We
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
normal
of
gun,
violence
on
our
streets.
We
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
normal
failing
school.
We
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
norm
of
eviction.
A
We
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
normal
transgenerational
trauma
and
vicarious
trauma.
This
is
not
the
normal
one
to
go
back.
We've
been
given,
we've
been
blessed
with
an
opportunity
to
reset
and
and
to
go,
not
back
but
forth
to
a
new
normal,
and
with
this
I
would
invoke
the
wisdom
of
our
ancestors
who,
when
taking
up
that
righteous
struggle,
understood
that
they
must
first
anchor
themselves.
A
A
That
means
we
need
brothers
and
sisters
of
great
virtue
who
will
lead
us
into
the
future
and,
with
god's
help
that
better
day
is
coming
well.
I
just
want
to
once
again
thank
each
of
you
for
your
time,
talent
and
expertise,
and
for
sharing
so
authentically
and
eloquently
about
these
issues
and
your
own
work.
I
am
very
personally
grateful
and
edified
to
have
spent
this
time
with
you.
I'd
also
like
to
express
gratitude
to
anyone
that
may
be
watching
live.
You
know
with
us
or
after
the
fact.
A
We
appreciate
that
you
would
take
the
time
to
spend.
You
know
part
of
your
day
learning
about
these
things.
We
are
going
to
move
forward
to
unpack
more
of
what's
been
shared
today,
to
do
deeper,
dives
on
these
themes
to
uplift
encouraging
work,
that's
happening
at
the
state
regional
community,
neighborhood
level,
so
that
we
can
be
about
that
network,
weaving
collective
impact,
work
ourselves
and
also
encourage
people
along
the
way,
because
there
is
good
news
and
we
want
to
move
to
father
small
point,
father
paul's
point
into
a
new
normal.
A
We
want
to
move
from
surviving
to
thriving.
We
want
systems
to
stop
harming.
We
want
communities
to
to
harmonize
upwards
together
and
to
have
the
chance
to
live
the
vibrant
life
that
is,
that
is
their
right.
We
want
to
be
about
that
work
as
a
society
as
a
community
and
as
a
team.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
be
on
the
lookout
for
more
broadcast
from
the
series
and,
in
the
meantime,
please
take
very
good
care
of.