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From YouTube: Our Neighbor's Keeper: Taili Thompson
Description
On this episode of Our Neighbor's Keeper, Josiah Gilliam talks with the Allegheny County Health Department's Violence Prevention Coordinator Taili Thompson.
A
Hello
there,
thank
you
for
tuning
in
my
name
is
Josiah
Gilliam
and
I.
Am
the
my
brother's
keeper
coordinator
for
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
in
Allegheny,
County
I
work
in
the
office
of
Mayor,
Bill,
Peduto
and
I'm
here
with
a
special
guest
Ty
Lee
Thompson
Ty
Lee
Thompson
serves
in
the
office
of
violence
prevention
at
the
Allegheny
County
Health
Department.
As
a
coordinator
for
violence
prevention,
Ty
Lee.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
man
thanks.
B
I'm
Ty
Lee
Thompson,
born
and
raised
on
north
side
of
Pittsburgh
got
involved
with
this
violence
prevention
work.
When
violence
was
kind
of
picking
up
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
in
2003
they
gave
Richard
Garland.
They
tasked
with
your
garland,
with
coming
up
with
a
solution
to
the
valance
that
was
taking
place.
Richard
said,
let
me
go
to
the
problem
for
the
solution.
A
B
With
that
the
work
of
one
vision
one
life
was
born,
so
I
was
a
guy
who,
at
the
time
that
Richard
approached
me,
you
know,
was
in
the
community
committing
crimes
at
the
time.
Basically,
I
mean.
To
put
it
bluntly,
you
know,
I
was
you
know,
selling
drugs
and
different
things
that
kind
of
come
with
that
culture,
and
you
know
Richard
came
to
me
and
was
like
look.
You
know,
they're
gonna,
give
me
an
opportunity
to
to
try
to
address
some
of
the
violence.
That's
taking
place
in
the
city.
B
You
know
which
I
would
want
you
to
be
a
part
of
that
one
of
the
things
that
he
said
that
to
me
that
was,
you
know
there
was
a
couple
things
that
he
said.
That
kind
of
stuck
out
was
one
is
that
you
know
I
want
to
approach
guys
who've
been
a
part
of
tearing
the
community
down
and
give
my
opportunity
to
help,
build
it
back
up
and
and
when
he
said
that,
and
what
also
what
kind
of
like
was
was
weird
in
a
good
way.
B
Was
that
Richard
seen
value
in
my
past
or
kind
of
saved
my
present
at
the
time?
So
you
know
a
lot
of
times
when
you're
in
the
community
and
you're
doing
bad
things
in
the
community.
You
know
you're
devalued
by
the
community.
You're
devalued
by
society
and
Richard
was
one
that
said.
Look
I,
see
value
in
you
and
I
want
to
find
other
guys
similar
to
yourself,
because
there's
value
in
y'all
you
want
to
actually
be
a
part
of
transition
and
turning
your
life
around
to
help
turn
the
community
around
sounds.
B
To
me,
Richards
is
a
mentor
of
mine.
He
gave
me
the
opportunity
to
do
this.
Work.
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
be
sitting
here
today
and
I
tell
people
all
the
time.
I
wouldn't
be
sitting
here
today.
If
it
wasn't
for
Richard
Garland,
because
you
know
he
gave
me
a
platform,
he
gave
me
an
opportunity.
He
gave
me
in
a
sense.
It
was
giving
me
purpose
to
kind
of
commit
the
change
that
I
committed
in
my
life
with
with
the
organization
that
he
came
up
with
at
the
time.
B
So
when
we
sat
down,
you
know
actually
was
one
of
the
ones
who
came
up
with
the
name
of
one
vision,
one
life.
So
in
the
beginning
stages,
you
know
he
had
a
sit-down
with
some
folks
down
at
the
DHS
at
the
time
and
it
was
like
okay,
you
know
what
should
we
call
this
organization
in
a
sense
and
when
the
organization
or
the
concept
started,
it
originally
was
supposed
to
just
start
on
the
north
side,
and
my
thing
was
that
on
the
north
side,
you
know
we're
like
18
different
neighborhoods
18
different
communities.
B
We
have
a
lot
of
you
know,
conflict
that
was
going
on
between
all
those
different
communities
and
I
said
if
I
can
get
the
communities
and
the
guys
that
are
that
at
conflict
with
each
other.
To
realize
that,
on
the
north
side,
we
used
to
be
one
like.
We
were
old
Allegheny
before
we
became
a
part
of
the
city
at
pickle.
B
I
said
man
if
I
can
get
us
to
realize
that
we
were
one
before
we
was
even
part
of
the
city.
That
would
be
great
and
then
understanding
that
this
work
is
gonna
have
to
be
something
that
you
build
momentum
and
it's
gonna
have
to
be
one
life
at
a
time
and
in
and
we
you
know,
we
got
to
realize
that
we're
one
and
it
has
to
be
something
that
builds
momentum.
So
that's
when
I
came
up
with
the
with
the
one
vision,
one
life
literally,
and
that
was
work.
A
B
A
B
And
so
this
was
like,
you
know,
going
out
to
the
yeah
and
the
90s.
You
know
there
was
a
lot
of
gang
violence.
To
be
honest,
I
mean
you
know
that
that's
something
that
we
you
know
we
can't
escape
is
that
at
that
time
you
know
throughout
the
different
areas.
In
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
there
was
a
lot
of
gang
violence
and
folks
that
grew
up
in
those
communities
knew
it.
You
know
understood
and
either
became
a
victim
or
a
perpetrator
or
figured
out
ways
to
kind
of
navigate
through
those
those
spaces.
A
B
You
know
there
were
some
very
tense
spaces
at
the
time.
No,
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
history,
you'll
be
able
to
see
that
there
was
some
some
events
that
took
place
during
those
years
that
that
were
very
traumatic,
very
traumatizing
events
with
the
level
of
violence
that
was
taking
place
in
our
different
communities.
Okay,.
A
B
Her
her
first,
she
first
was
working
with
actually
one
vision,
so
before
Aaron
was
actually
at
the
county,
because
Richard
was
doing
some
stuff
at
youth
work,
so
they
let
they
had
Richard
come
over
to
start
this
and
they
had
Aaron.
You
know
working
with
him.
You
know
Aaron
worked
at
one
vision,
writing
grants
and
getting
it
all
together.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
documentation
and
all
that
different
different
things,
yeah.
A
B
Aaron
actually
and
Richard,
you
know
kind
of
put
the
model
together
from
the
model
out
of
Chicago
from
at
the
time
was
called
ceasefire
Chicago
and
it
was
dr.
schlotkin.
So
as
they
you
know,
was
developing
the
model,
they
were
actually
sending
us
up
to
Chicago
to
learn
the
diff
implementations
of
this
particular
model.
B
Is
related
to
directly
related
to
violence,
prevention,
intervention,
world
and
the
beauty.
When
you
talk
about
the
evolution,
you
know
this
is
2020
now.
Is
that
what
we
didn't
realize
in
the
language
we
didn't
have
back
then,
and
even
snuck
in
didn't?
Have
it
back,
then,
is
that
it
was
a
public
health
approach
to
gun
violence.
This
was
the
disease
model.
B
B
Back
then,
it
was
just
like
a
part
of
activities
that
were
being
done
in
the
model.
Okay
and
and
what
was
what
was
complicated.
Was
that
people
didn't
understand
the
connection
of
the
activities.
So
I
said
you
get
to
the
point
where
you
say:
outreach
workers
right
that
Richard
had
cease
fire
called
them.
You
know
street
outreach
worker,
slash,
interrupters
right
when
people
see
outreach
workers,
they
didn't
see
the
value
in
the
work
that
they
did
now.
B
Throughout
our
conversation,
the
first
part
of
the
model
is
interrupting
the
transmission
of
the
disease
right
so
with
this
new
category
of
healthcare
worker
that
that
sluttin
talks
about
and
at
the
time
that
Richard
and
Aaron
don't
were
able
to
actually
assemble.
These
were
guys
that
had
the
ability
to
literally
mediate
conflicts
now
when
they
mediate
those
conflicts,
they
were
interrupting
the
transmission
of
a
disease,
every
successful
mediation
prevent
it
that
transition
from
happening,
which
allows
another
transmission
to
happen
because
that
transmission
happened.
We
look.
B
You're
stopping
a
pattern
but
individuals,
here's
the
thing
about
violence
in
our
communities-
everybody,
that's
in
the
community,
knows
that
if
this
guy
and
that
guy
kind
of
gets
into
it,
there's
gonna
be
a
bunch
of
reek
like
constant
stuff.
That
will
happen
from
that
that
hasn't.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
just
those
two
like
repercussions
or
Consequences
right
with
okay
like
this.
If
this
happens
and
they
get
into
a
fight
and
then
they
may
evolve,
guns,
there's
gonna
be
so
many
other
folks
that
will
get
pulled
into
that.
B
So
we
know
that
if
we
could
stop
this
one
thing
from
happening,
it
will
prevent
the
other
people
from
having
to
be
involved
in
this
particular
matter
and
and
in
the
90s
and
in
the
late
in
the
early
2000s.
That
way,
it
was
like
more
guaranteed
that
if
this
one
thing
happened,
there
would
be
more
things
that
will
happen
after
that,
because
of
just
the
way
that
the
communities
were
kind
of
more
clicked
off.
You
know
more
clicks
off
at
that
particular
time.
B
So,
as
a
resident,
you
know
man
if
I
could
just
get
these
particular
individuals
not
to
get
into
this
conflict.
We
can
prevent
something
else
from
happening
got
it.
So
you
see
it.
You
know
you
might
hear
people
speak
about
it,
but
when
the
language
finally
caught
up
to
it,
the
public
health
approach,
you
say:
okay,
these
guys
are
interrupting
a
transmission
of
a
disease.
You
know
I
mean-
and
it's
just
like
when
you
think
of
any
other
disease.
B
If
a
transmission
of
a
disease
happens,
those
are
that,
because
that
happened,
it
gives
the
ability
for
it
to
be
transmission,
to
transmit
it
to
other
people.
Now
you
know
I
mean,
because
now
these
individuals
crossed
each
other.
The
disease
has
transmitted
between
them.
Now,
people
that
he
runs
across
he
can
transmit
the
disease
to
people
that
he
can
runs
across.
He
can
transmit
the
disease
to
because
they
came
across
these
other
in
the
disease
transmitted
it.
It
happened
right.
A
B
A
B
Right
right
right,
so
you
with
with
with
this
knit
with
the
language
in
the
way
that
the
language
originally
evolved,
is
you
seen
that
only
certain
people
could
play
that
role?
But
then
you
also
ended
up
seeing
the
value
of
that
particular
person.
You
don't
mean
it
tooks
luck
in
years
to
eventually
get
to
the
point
that
people
say:
oh,
that's
the
value
of
street
outreach.
B
You
know
me
I
mean
even
you
know
when
I
started
out
as
a
street
outreach,
you
know,
worker
I
always
knew
we
gotta
find
a
better
way
of
communicating
the
value
of
what
we
do,
because
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
was
happening
was
behind
closed
doors.
You
know,
I
mean
where
there
was
guys
I
mean
at
one
point.
B
One
visual
life
had
over
fifty
outreach
workers
throughout
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
these
are
guys
men
that
had
the
influence
in
their
communities
to
where
they
could
say
they
could
squash
beasts
literally
mediate
conflict
right
and
it
wasn't
something
that
you
could
just
go
broadcast
and
be
like
yo.
They
just
mediated
this
or
mediated
that,
but
I
knew
the
value
and
I
was
like.
B
We
we
gotta
find
ways
of
showing
value
and
what
happened
and
technically
with
what
you
end
up
saying
is
what
didn't
happen
right,
because,
because
they
are
so
valuable,
something
didn't
happen
right
and
now
you
get
caught
up
in
this
in
this
dis
game
of
counting.
How
do
you
count
something
that
didn't
have
exactly
yeah.
B
B
It's
so
ceasefire
became
so
stuck
in
realized
that
he
had
to
kind
of
carve
his
pitch
his
niche
of
what
he
was
doing
and
he
transitioned
to
cure
violence
pure
violence
right,
so
ceasefire
became
cure,
violence
and-
and
then
you
know,
as
you
know,
right
now,
there's
you
got.
You
got
cities
United
that
are
kind
of
like
putting
all
these
languages
together
because
care
violence
did
you
know
when
it
comes
to
street
outreach
work
that
they
look
to
cure.
Violence
is
model
I,
say
yeah.
B
Have
it
in
the
model
and
then
you
have
Kennedy,
you
know
you
got
the
with
with
TV
eyes
is
currently
and
that's
focused
deterrence.
So
that's
focused
deterrence
and
more
custom
notification,
which
is
also
you
know
very
important
and
beneficial,
because
what
happened
over
the
years
is
that
as
violence
was
taking
place,
you
would
get
to
the
point
of
doing
heavier
saturation
in
the
community
that
may
have
high
exposure
to
the
disease
of
violence
and
then
how
you
end
up
doing
out
of
saturation
ends
up
creating
a
rift
between
the
community
and
law
enforcement.
So.
B
The
heavy
saturation,
because
that's
boots
on
the
ground,
that's
on
the
ground
you
might
want
to
kind
of
like
you,
you
look
up.
There
might
be
some
cars
being
towed.
There
might
just
be
some
interaction.
It
has
to
take
place
between
law
enforcement
and
community,
because
violence
there's
high
exposure
of
the
disease
of
violence
in
these
particular
communities.
Right.
That
was
the
old
approach
to
policing
in
a
sense,
yeah.
A
It's
interesting,
you
say
that
because
former
New
York
Mayor
Mike
Bloomberg
who's
running
for
president
currently
2020
was
there
was
a
recording
that
got
at
least
where
he
got
released,
where
he
was
kind
of.
Speaking
to
this
philosophy,
you
look
at
where
there's
high
concentrations
of
crime,
and
then
you
put
many
police
officers
there.
That
was
the
philosophy
he
was.
A
He
was
espousing
and
then
what
he
ended
up
saying
in
response
to
that
was
that
there
were
all
these
unforeseen
consequences
of
doing
that
for
him
particular
they're
like
stop
and
frisk
policy
and
the
negative
impacts
and
outsized
impact
it
had
on
black
and
brown
populations,
poor
populations
etc.
But
it
speaks
that
to
this
philosophy
of
kind
of
addressing
crime
with
boots
on
the
ground.
That's
what
you're
describing
as
I
understand.
It
is
a
transition
away
from
that.
These
custom
notifications
and
dr.
A
B
Yes,
yes,
so
it
it
allow
law
enforcement
to
kind
of
transition
to
focus
deterrent
where
they
want
to
kind
of
focus
on
who's
responsible
for
what
just
happened.
Yeah
you
know,
and
let's
have
some
interaction
with
the
individuals
responsible
for
what
just
happened
and
the
beauty
of
to
be
honest.
The
beauty
of
Pittsburgh's
model
and
where
Pittsburgh
is
kind
of
at
now
is
that
they
have
focused
deterrence,
which
is
Kennedy's
model,
but
they
also
have
a
level
the
public
health
approach,
with
the
work
that
Cornell
does
yeah.
A
B
The
work
the
Cornell
does
in
the
outreach
that
he
has
brings
in
that
Public
Health
approach.
Where
he's
had,
he
has
guys
that
can
interrupt
transmission
that
can
connect
that
can
prevent
the
future
spread
by
connecting
individuals
to
services
that
can
play
the
role
of
how
you
change
community
norms.
So
it
ends
up
having
what
the
city
has
right.
A
A
It
so
this
blended
model
and
you've
just
did,
even
though
the
leaders
you've
mentioned
Reverend
Cornell,
Jones,
chief
Bickerstaff.
This
is
work
happening
at
different
levels.
Yes,
folks
playing
their
role.
So
let's
talk
about
the
office
of
violence
prevention,
which
is
a
relatively
a
relatively
recent
entity,
you're
coming
from
the
health
department.
Yes
right
right
so.
B
A
B
Yeah
and,
and
so
with
this
Commission,
the
Commission
had
the
who's
who,
in
this
different
work,
so
I
look
because
I
was
looking
at
the
members
of
the
Commission
just
yesterday,
so
you
had
Richard
garland
on
it.
You
had
with
sharp
birdsong,
you
had
a
cookie
Coleman,
the
chief
of
police
in
Wilkinsburg,
chief
and
Erin
Dalton
may
have
been
a
member
of
that,
and
so
was
individuals
like
from
all
over
Allegheny
County
that
they
felt
would
be
a
value
as
it
relates
to
looking
at
violence
and
mental
health
throughout
Allegheny
County.
B
Representative
Wayne
Fontana
kind
of
was
was
honest,
so
all
of
these
individuals
came
together
for
a
year
long
and
say
here's
the
issues,
here's
what
we
need
to
address
and
from
that
they
put
together.
A
65
page
report
called
the
PNC
report
on
the
commission's
report
and
it
was
on
violence
in
public
and
mental
health
and
from
that
within
one
of
the
recommendations
in
there
was
for
the
health
department
to
take
a
minnow,
a
public
health
approach
to
gun
violence.
You
know
I
mean
and
and
from
that
you
know,
dr.
A
Now
you
have
this
local
and
regional
political
engagement
leaders,
faith-based
leaders,
community
outreach
workers,
subject
matter
experts,
series
of
recommendations,
one
of
which
is
to
take
this
formalize
and
actualize
this
public
health
approach
and
then
you've
been
involved
with
local
philanthropy.
The
highs
and.
A
B
To
two
things
with
with
opening
up
the
office:
well,
there
was
three
things
in
a
sense
was
one
was
to
form
up
put
a
commission
community
advisory
board
together,
yeah,
which
you
sat
on
the
community
value
board
and
I
appreciate
you.
You
know
you
work
with
that.
So
we
put
a
community
of
eyes
were
together
and
it
ended
up
being
like
32
individuals
from
sectors
all
throughout
Allegheny
County.
B
A
B
So
we
ended
up
having
those
those
those
three
things
ended
up
in
place
and
we
did
them.
You
know
out
in
the
county,
Richard
Garland
and
University
of
Pittsburgh
and
his
outreach
team
did
the
outreach
component
outside
of
city
limits
and
focus
picks.
Berg
responded
to
homicides
that
would
take
place
throughout
Allegheny
County.
A
B
B
B
Yes,
2.1
square
miles
and
it
had
11,
so
it
led
the
county
in
homicides
last
year.
Wilkinsburg
did
so.
B
A
A
B
The
one
thing
that
kind
of
has
to
take
place
is
that
there
there
has
to
be
a
continued
investment
and
outreach
work
to
take
place
outside
of
you
know
in
in
county
areas
like
so
we
ended
up.
You
know.
After
the
canta
2
year,
contract
was
over
with
Richard
and
outreach
team.
We
no
longer
have
outreach
outs
at
you
know
in
the
county
areas
outside
of
when
we
implement
this
cure
violence
model.
So.
B
And
so
it'll
just
be
in
Wilkinsburg,
so
right
now
you
know.
When
we
look
at
the
work
in
the
model,
we
won't
have
any
interrupters,
so
we
won't
have
anybody
that
would
play
the
role
of
interrupting
the
transmission
of
the
disease
in
these
county
areas.
You
know
right
now
we
won't
kind
of
have
that
outside
of
Wilkinsburg,
and
I
think
you
know
it'll
be
evident
with
the
work
that
will
take
place
in
Wilkinsburg
the
need
for
it
in
these
other
areas
and
then
there's
also
a
challenge
with
these.
B
So
many
different
municipalities,
different
law
enforcement
agencies
in
different
areas
outside
of
city
limits
in
the
county
to
kind
of
get
them
on
the
same
page.
Maybe
doing
some
focus
deterrence
work
similar
to
what
you
know
the
city
does
and
then
getting
them
all
to
buy
into
finding
value
in
individuals
that
could
play
role
of
outreach
workers
and
the
value
that
they
can
have
and
actually
helping
to
improve
the
community
and,
in
you
know,
the
quality
of
life
in
those
communities.
A
Would
you
say
that
it's
a
positive
indicator
that,
as
opposed
to
having
to
rely
on
maybe
some
some
national
models
that
have
done
well
in
other
contexts?
We
have
a
track
record
here
recently
of
both
the
city
and
the
county,
taking
some
positive
steps
and
looking
at
this
deterrence
work
looking
at
the
role
that
law
enforcement
and
outreach
can
play,
etc.
Yeah.
B
A
B
Because
of
the
makeup
in
how
Allegheny
County
is
kind
of
right
now,
the
borders
don't
exist,
like
they
kind
of
did
in
a
sense
there
used
to,
you
know,
be
you
know.
Folks
lived
in
the
city
lived
in
the
city
and
folks
lived
in
the
county
may
have
lived
in
the
county,
but
now
you
can
see
folks
that
are
out
in
County,
neighborhoods
and
and
and
truly
they
they're
from
the
city
they
feel
like
I
am
from
the
city.
A
B
A
A
B
There
needs
to
be
an
official
coordination
of
efforts
to
be
able
to
say:
okay,
we're
implementing
the
GBR
model
and
the
public
health
approach
model
to
gun
violence
throughout
Allegheny,
County
kind
of
you
know
that
may
be
because
you
know
at
the
same
time
that
we've
seen
great
success
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
We
also
seen
it
a
great
increase
of
homicides
outside
of
city
limits.
Okay,.
A
Etc,
we
were
just
downstairs
here
in
the
City
County
Building
and
there's
a
great
Negro
Leagues
display
down
there
spin
up
for
most
of
this
month
and
plays
a
great
tribute
to
the
extraordinary
history
of
the
Negro
Leagues,
but
also
to
the
grays
and
the
Crawford's
here
in
Pittsburgh.
You've
been
involved
with
baseball
and
youth
baseball
around
the
city
for
a
while.
A
B
B
When,
when
you
understand
the
model,
there's
a
piece
in
the
model,
one
is
changed:
community
norms,
but
there's
also
a
underlining
piece
in
both
models.
If
you
ever
hear
Kennedy
talk
ever
his
luck
and
talk
and
have
you
ever
seen
the
work
that
one
vision,
one
life
was
doing
of
connecting
youth
with
activities
connecting
them
with
identities
when
you
connect
them
with
that
with
activities,
it
gives
them
an
identity
and
that
that
can
actually
create
a
level
of
safety
in
the
community.
So
me
always
was
you
know
into
bit
into
basketball?
B
So
there
was
a
period
where
I
was
kind
of
doing
basketball
camps.
When
I
was
working
with
one
visual
in
life,
but
I
transitioned
my
work
into
baseball
because
I,
you
know,
I
played
little
baseball
growing
up
and
I
just
realized
that
how
baseball
had
kind
of
died
in
our
different
communities?
You
know
we
used
to
have
two
three
baseball
leagues
on
the
North
set.
The
hill
always
had
a
great
baseball
league,
and
these
were
men,
our
minority
kids,
playing
a
game
of
baseball.
B
You
know
baseball
in
Swissvale
or
McKeesport,
and
whatnot
and
baseball
isn't
as
a
game
to
where
you
know
it's
an
identity
that
when
kids
really
get
involved-
and
you
really
maximize
their
opportunities,
it
can
create
an
identity
that
creates
a
level
of
safety,
but
actually
can
give
them
a
return.
You
know
in
in
the
future
where
kids,
you
know
can
play
baseball
in
the
next
level.
They
can,
you
know,
go
to
division,
1,
division,
2,
Division,
3
schools
and
play
play
the
game
of
baseball
and
it
just.
B
They
just
need
individuals
that
are
committed
to
treat
teaching
them
the
proper
fundamentals
and
when
they
do
that,
you'll
have
a
level
of
success.
2
3
years
ago
we
actually
won
the
mayor's
Cup.
And
if
you
look
at
the
picture
of
the
kids
that
are
on
my
team,
it
was
about
85
to
90
percent
minority
team
and
we
won
the
America's
Cup.
You
know
and
we've
won,
you
know
a
gang
of
championships.
You
know
within
this
this
this
realm
of
a
baseball
on
the
local
level.
B
So
once
you
know
you
get
the
kids
involved
and
you
they
see
that
you're
putting
time
into
them.
You
know
they'll
also
give
you
that
same
energy
in
return
and
when
they
start
to
see
success
because
they're
putting
the
time
in
right,
they
get
excited,
they
get
engaged
and
if
you
ever
get
a
chance
to
see
a
bright
and
hikes
team.
Come
you'll
see
that
work
that
I
kind
of
started
doing
seven
eight
years
ago,
because
you'll
see
a
lot
of
minorities
at
brighton
hikes
playing.
A
B
Game
of
baseball
compared
to
if
they
come
across
some
of
the
other
teams.
You
know
you
won't
quite
see
those
number
of
minorities
so
to
me,
I'm
really
proud
of
the
work
that
I've
been
doing,
but
I'm
really
proud
and
the
way
to
some
of
the
parents
of
the
kids
that
I've
taught
you
know
the
game
of
baseball
over
the
years.
You
know
continued
to
bring
them
back
and
keep
them
engaged
and
to
me
we
will
see
a
return
and
you'll
even
see
a
return
in
the
community.
B
When
you
get
to
the
point
that
community
recognizes
a
kid
as
a
baseball
player
like
yeah
that
kid
always
a
baseball
player
and
other
kids
in
the
community
will
know,
will
recognize
and
say:
oh,
it
becomes
a
part
of
their
identity.
Yes,
and
when
you
have
those
identities,
you
give
the
kid
ability
to
have
a
network
of
friends
that
they
can
work
on
their
social
skills
with
you
know
that
they
can
kind
of
connect
to
where
they
see
I'm
playing
baseball.
B
Another
kid
looks
similar
to
me:
is
playing
baseball
as
well,
rather
than
I'm
coming
into
a
space
and
they're
truly
a
minority
in
this
space,
and
they
kind
of
feel
you
know
kind
of
out
of
you
know
kind
of
you
know
not
out
of
place
in
a
sense
yeah.
So
you
know
I'm
hoping
that
the
work
that
you
know
RBI
program
is
doing
and
what
the
Pirates
program
is
doing
is
that
we
can
continue
this
effort
of
getting
minority
kids
back
into
playing
a
game
of
baseball
and
realized.
B
And
if
you
look
at
the
the
work
downstairs,
you
know
with
the
Negro
League
you'll
see
that
we
were
very
successful
at
it.
When
we
played
the
game,
you
know
those
those
guys
were
great
baseball
players,
not
just
in
the
Negro
League.
Those
guys
had
talent
that
can
transition
into
any
baseball
field
right,
you
know,
I
mean
and
when
they
were
given
the
opportunity
to
join,
you
know
the
the
MLB
it
showed
they
became
Hall
of
Famers.