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From YouTube: Our Neighbor's Keeper: Trauma, Healing, & Community
Description
On this episode of Our Neighbor's Keeper, Josiah Gilliam talks to Cornell Jones from the City of Pittsburgh, Taili Thompson from Operation Better Block, and Dan Emerick from The Neighborhood Resilience Project.
A
My
name
is
josiah
gilliam
and
I'm
the
my
brothers
keeper
coordinator
in
the
mayor's
office
of
equity
and
we've
been
doing
a
series
of
broadcasts
exploring
intersections
of
that
work,
and
recently
we've
been
taking
a
look
at
the
concept
of
trauma
and
the
folks
that
serve
communities
at
different
levels.
The
folks
that
research,
this
topic
in
different
fields,
to
really
uplift
work,
that's
happening
to
raise
awareness
to
talk
about,
what's
working
and
about
what
the
future
can
look
like,
and
we
know
that
any
discussion
along
these
lines
is
timely.
A
But
we
feel
that
there's
a
special
opportunity
to
really
lean
in
to
explore
the
intersections
and
to
be
about
work
that
can
save
lives
through
the
community
based
organizations
that
do
this
work
through
the
entities
that
are
active
in
this
space
and
through
the
individuals
that
that
dedicate
their
lives
to
building
to
building
peace
and
to
healing
and
in
the
past
couple
conversations,
we've
done
a
couple
of
like
high
level
overviews,
the
kind
of
systemic
piece
looking
at
work.
That's
been
happening
in
the
county.
A
In
the
state
and
in
the
city
related
to
this
work,
then
we
did
a
bit
of
a
deeper
dive
into
research
and
to
what
we
know
from
a
neuroscience
perspective
and
what
happens
with
the
brain
and
things
like
this.
Today's
conversation
is
really
special,
I'm
very
excited
to
get
into
it,
because
we
have
a
chance
to
look
at
trauma
and
healing,
and
these
concepts
of
community
through
folks
that
know
what
the
work
on
the
ground
looks
like
very
well.
A
A
In
the
conversation
we
we
encourage
you
to
do
the
same
for
yourself
and
for
just
in
general
in
community,
especially
as
we're
coming
out
of
coba
to
hold
space
for
the
testimony
and
what
folks
have
gone
through
what
they're
experiencing,
so
that
we
can
understand
where
each
other
is
coming
from
and
start
there
with
with
that
sense
of
community.
So
without
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
go
around
my
friend,
please
that
introduce
yourself
as
you
would
like
name
organization.
B
That
josiah
excuse
me.
I
appreciate
that
it's
an
honor
to
be
here.
I
am
reverend
cornell
jones,
the
the
group
violence
intervention
coordinator
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
just
glad
to
be
here.
Man
just
have
a
passion
for
our
communities,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
that.
Passion
came
from
working
in
the
community
for
years
and
working
in
in
the
in
the
prisons
and
juvenile
detention
centers,
and
just
seeing
how
important
dealing
with
trauma
is
it's
extremely
important
and
I'm
glad
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation.
C
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
Josiah.
I'm
really
grateful
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation
as
well.
I've
known
cornell
and
ty
lee
for
a
couple
years,
and
I
deeply
admire
the
work
that
you
both
do
and
it's
your
example
is
part
of
why
I
do
the
work
that
I
do
you've
inspired
me.
So
I'm
grateful
to
be
part
of
this
panel,
I'm
with
the
neighborhood
resilience
project
as
program
manager
of
the
trauma
response
team,
which
is
a
gun,
violence,
trauma
response,
ministry.
A
Thank
you
dan.
Thank
you
for
being
here
all
right,
tyler.
I
want
to
start
with
you,
sir.
Just
set
the
stage
for
us.
We
talked
in
recent
conversations
around
the
public
health
approach
to
violence,
and
really
this
is
related
to
this
idea
of
a
disease
model.
So
could
you
just
kind
of
set
the
stage
for
us
and
talk
about
this
work
from
those
perspectives.
C
The
the
language
states
that
your
greatest
chance
of
catching
tuberculosis
is
your
exposure
to
it.
This
chance
of
catching.
The
flu
is
your
exposure
to
it
and
now,
in
these
covert
days,
you're
understanding
your
greatest
chance
of
catching
covet?
Is
your
exposure
to
cooper
and
violence
works?
The
same
way
is
that
your
greatest
chance
of
being
a
perpetrator
or
victim
of
violence
is
your
exposure
to
violence
and
before
we
have
to
treat
it
similar
to
the
way
we
treat
other
contagious
diseases
and-
and
that
involves
you
know
four,
you
know
exit
core
core
principles.
C
That's
done
by
individuals
known
as
street
outreach
workers
that
have
a
pulse
on
the
community
understands
what's
going
on
in
community,
and
they
may
have
the
ability
to
actually
mediate
conflicts
that
are
going
on.
There
may
be
conflicts
happening
in
the
community
that
the
average
residents
may
not
know
is
happening,
but
outreach
workers
knowledgeable
understand,
and
they
have
the
ability
to
be
able
to
interrupt
that
transmission
by
doing
what's
known
as
a
conflict,
mediation
and
any
time
that
you
interrupt
the
transmission
of
the
disease,
you
prevent
the
disease
from
spread.
C
The
second
way
is:
is
the
ability
to
be
able
to
prevent
the
spread
of
the
disease
and
that's
when
you
across
individuals
to
the
disease,
you
help
them
services
with
resources.
They
can
move
forward
after
they've
been
in
this
space
of
exposure
to
the
disease.
The
third
one
is
changing
community
norms
that
actually
promote
more
violence
in
these
communities
that
have
high
exposure
to
the
disease.
Violence
a
lot
of
times
some
of
our
behaviors
after
the
disease,
pops
up
ends
up
promoting
more
violence.
C
A
clear
quick
example
of
that
that,
if
homicide
happy,
it
happens
on
a
street,
everybody
lose
their
own
business.
Close
their
curtains
turn
inwards,
aren't
concerned
about
their
neighbors.
Then
something
happens
on
b
street,
but
on
b
street
folks
come
out.
They
want
to
find
out
if
their
neighbors
are
okay,
they're
engaged
with
who
hat
you
know
what
happened?
You
know
what
might
have
took
place.
They're
they're,
you
know
they're
they're
engaged
with
the
balance
that
that
happened.
C
C
So
these
are
different
things
that
that
actually,
what
are
called
communities
norms
that
might
actually
promote
more
violence,
then
the
other
one
is
the
underlining,
which
is
the
fourth
one
called
identities,
and
that's
being
able
to
connect
youth
with
identities
that
are
known
and
those
identities
end
up
being
a
layer
of
safety
within
the
community
and
then
given
individuals
who
may
have
identities
that
are
known
to
produce
bad
outcomes.
You
know
as
an
adult,
giving
them
the
ability
to
do
what's
called
identity
transformation.
C
So
just
you
know,
as
as
setting
the
ground
on
folks
understanding
this
disease.
Currently
right
now
we're
you
know
in
these
underserved
communities
that
we're
in
addressing
this
violence,
we're
actually
fighting
two
diseases
right
now,
we're
disproportionately
affected
by
covet
and
we're
disproportionately
affected
by
the
violence
that
is
actually
taking
place
within
our
communities.
So
I
just
kind
of
you
know
kicked
that
off
as
just
a
a
base
layer
of
folks
understanding
this
disease
model
and
what
it
is.
When
you
look
at
violence
as
a
disease
that
it
actually
is.
A
C
So
I'm
going
to
give
you
some
clear
examples
on
how
identity
transformation
worked
for
me
in
different
stages.
In
my
life
there
was
a
time
when
you
know
I
grew
up
in
the
air
when
you
know
gangs
kind
of
first
started
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
during
that
that
time
I
had
an
identity
that
I
was
known
as
a
student
athlete
I
played
at
prairie
perry,
traditional
academy.
You
know
we
were
on,
you,
know,
state
championship
team
and
the
community
knew
me
as
a
student
athlete.
C
So
when
guys
that
were
involved
in
the
violence
that
was
taking
place
between
the
two
different
communities
would
see
me
they
had,
they
looked.
They
knew
my
identity
and
said
he's
not
a
part
of
what
we're
into
right.
Now
he's
an
athlete
he's
a
ball
player.
He
doesn't
come
out
of
that
identity.
Every
now
and
then
you
know
he
always
like
you'll,
see
him
out
of
basketball
court
or
he's
in
school
or
he's
involved
with
something
with
that
identity.
C
When
my
identity
changed,
there
were
leading
to
things
that
were
harmful
for
myself
aren't
for
the
community,
but
when
I
came
across
the
work
that
richard
garland
was
doing,
he
gave
me
an
ability
to
do
what
was
called
identity
transformation
and
when
the
identity
transformation
kind
of
kicked
in,
it
was
as
simple
as
instead
of
me
being
for
anybody.
That's
familiar
with
the
north
side,
instead
of
me
being
on
federal
street
by
12
o'clock
every
day
and
engaged
in
that
illegal
activity
that
happens
on
federal
street.
C
I
was
literally
to
the
right
if
you
go
to
the
right
of
jacksonia,
where
I
grew
up.
You'll
see
brighton
road
and,
at
the
end
of
brighton,
road
you'll
run
right
into
ccac,
and
I
literally
when
I
got
involved
with
the
work
richard
garland
bounce
prevention
work.
You
would
always
catch
me
on
the
campus
at
cca's.
Even
when
I
didn't
have,
I
would
be
at
ccac,
so
it
was
just
this
difference
between
being
on
federal
street
and
being
at
ccac.
C
A
Thank
you
tally,
so
reverend
jones
I'd
like
to
to
go
to
you,
sir.
So
you've
heard
tyler's
overview.
I'm
wondering
what
your
reactions
you
know
are
there
and
then
can
you
talk
to
us
about
the
group
violence,
intervention
work,
because
this
is
a
this-
is
a
structural
piece
within
city
government.
You
work
with
folks
in
community
as
well.
So
could
you
react
to
ty
lee
what
you're
just
what's
on
your
heart
and
then
and
then
walk
us
through
what
gpa
is
and
does.
B
Sure
and
it's
funny
talent,
because
now
I
see
why
you
like
to
have
meetings
down
at
ccac
so
much
because
of
that
connection,
that's
cool
stuff.
So
with
that,
you
know
just
just
reacting
to
everything
that
he
said
it's
you
know
he's
100
right
on
point
with
it
and
it's
amazing
to
be
able
to
see.
You
know
that
identity
piece
that
identity.
B
B
Our
outreach
teams
are
people,
people
who
are
people
of
influence,
people
who
are
community,
I
like
to
say
community
giants,
people
who
have
been
known
to
love
on
the
people
as
much
as
possible:
the
community,
mothers,
the
coaches,
the
clergy
and
the
people
that
are
that
are
just
you
know,
just
hardcore
pillars
in
the
community.
Those
are
people
that
have
that
have
an
identity
that
a
lot
of
times
people
want
to
get
that
that
that
people
want
to
get
it
connected
to.
B
What's,
amazing
is
some
of
those
people
that
are
that
have
that
identity
had
a
different
identity
in
the
past,
which
is
why
they're
able
to
show
that
you
could
change
your
life.
You
could
be
an
example.
You
could
be
a
resource,
you
don't
have
to
be
what
you
know,
as
they
say
in
the
prison
with
your
jackets
as
you
are,
and
that
means
what
what
you
know
your
records
as
you
are
things
like
that
you
could
be
someone
who's
been
transformed.
B
Just
like
tali,
you
know,
tyler
is
one
of
the
an
amazing
person
who
who,
on
the
front
lines,
is
being
able
to
show
people
that
you
don't
have
to
live
that
life
anymore.
You
could
be
a
change
agent
now
and
be
a
part
of
making
communities
better,
but
you
know
the
group
violence
intervention
project.
The
initiative
was
actually
something
that
was
brought
to
pittsburgh.
Well.
B
Officially,
2017
is
when
I
came
in
and
that's
when
the
city
of
pittsburgh
was
brought
together,
an
outreach
team,
social
services
and
and
selected
law
enforcement
people
that
were
coming
together,
because
you
know
they
saw
that.
Just
like
david
kennedy
who
started
this
initiative,
they
saw
that
you
can't
do
one
without
the
other
believe
it
or
not,
and
as
much
as
I
love
the
power
of
outreach,
we
outreach
needs
the
law,
enforcement
component
and
law
enforcement
needs
the
outreach
component
and
we
all
need
resources.
B
So,
when
you
put
those
things
together,
you're
able
to
work
work
really
hard
and
group
violence
intervention
actually
reduces
homicides
and
gun
violence.
It
minimizes
harm
to
communities
by
replacing
enforcement
and
deterrence
and
what,
while
the
way
that
we're
doing
that
is
number
one
making
sure
that
we're
utilizing
the
outreach
members,
the
outreach
teams
utilizing
the
community
members
who
are
saying
I
want
to
volunteer.
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
village
to
give
back
in
fostering
strong
relationships
between
the
community
and
even
law
enforcement.
You
know
what
happens.
B
Is
you
know
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
are
going
to.
You
know
going
to
big
events,
and
you
know
being
able
to
make
sure
that
the
first
level
of
that
people
are
dealing
with
is.
Is
outreach
is
community
coming
to
the
table
to
be
able
to
go
there
to
say
you
know
we
want
to
be
able
to
help
you
to
be
able
to
have
a
good
time.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
safe,
but
we're
going
to
do
everything
that
we
can
to
to
do
that.
B
B
I'm
a
believer
of
never
giving
up
on
anybody
and
which
is
why
you
know
in
in
my
in
my
faith
theology,
it's
what
I
call
the
salt
of
paul
transformation.
It's
the
it's
being
able
to
utilize
that
person
who
everybody
gave
up
on
and
now
help
them
to
be
able
to
get
their
resources,
so
they
could
be
effective
and
now
be
that
person
who
is
able
to
help
transform
the
communities,
and
through
this
initiative
we've
been
able
to
change
lives,
we've
been
able
to
help
empower
people
and
we've
been
able
to.
B
You
know
it's
funny
right
before
we
were
on
this
phone
call
right
here.
This
zoom
I
received
a
phone
call
from
a
woman
who
said
I
heard
about
what
you're
doing
and
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
it.
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
movement.
People
see
that
this
isn't
it's
time
to
go
from
sitting
on
the
sidelines
and
saying
why
don't
they
to
the
concept
of?
Why
don't
we?
B
And
by
pulling
these
these
resources
from
the
outreach
team,
the
the
social
services
and
law
enforcement
together,
we're
really
able
to
transform
community
and
make
it
really
happen
to
to
a
whole
another
level.
So
I've
been
excited
about
it.
2017
I
came
on
this
year
dealing
with
covid.
You
know,
we've
had
to
change
a
lot.
You
know
what
I
mean:
violence
prevention
has
totally
changed.
You
know
what
I
mean
we
went
from.
B
You
know
we're
still
we're
still
doing
street
intervention,
but
we're
also
feeding
people
we're
also
helping
making
sure
that
we're
dealing
with
mediations,
where
people
from
their
own
family
members
were
about
to
shoot
each
other.
You
know
I
mean
things
like
that
because
there
was
so
there
was
so
much
tension
and
so
much
hostility
because
of
uncertainty,
and
things
like
that.
B
So
I
mean
it's
been
amazing,
I'm
blessed
to
say
that
we
have
an
awesome
team
of
people
who
you
know
from
everyone
from
neighborhood
resilience
to
you
know,
tally
being
over
operation,
better
block
we're
blessed
to
have.
You
know
the
reach
initiative,
south
pittsburgh
peacemakers
in
a
in
mad
dads
in
the
you
know,
on
a
set
of
people
who
are
volunteers,
the
the
village
at
large
coming
together
to
say
this
isn't
something
that
we're
going
to
let
happen
we
don't
want.
B
We
in
fact
tally
always
talks
about
changing
the
norms
like
we
don't
want
people,
young
people
dying
on
a
regular
basis
to
to
be
our
norm.
So
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
that
that
people,
that
people
know
that
this
isn't
what
we're
accepting
and
it's
cool,
because
we
even
have
law
enforcement
that
are
seeing
that
this
is
the
way
we
don't
it's
not.
You
can't
arrest
your
way
out
of
a
situation.
B
A
I
appreciate
that
so
much.
I
want
to
stay
with
that
idea
of
love
and
this
idea
of
of
transformation
too.
You
mentioned
that
you
you'll
sometimes
go.
You
know
to
the
jail
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
think
about
your
work,
reverend
in
terms
of
preventing
violence
from
happening,
but
you've
told
me
stories
of
how,
when
maybe
something
still
does
take
place
that
you're
still
there
with
that
message
of
love.
Can
you
talk
with
me
with
us
about
that
approach?
A
B
That
man,
it's
so
important
that
even
if
you
know
a
lot
of
times
we'll
give
we'll
tell
somebody
like
listen
man,
you
know
we
want
to
help
you
and
and
this
and
that
you
know
what
I
mean
we
want
to
give
you
the
resources
for
your
success
and
sometimes
they
don't
follow
through
with
that
situation.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
then
they
end
up
getting
in
trouble
and
they
get
arrested.
But
my
thing
is:
we
have
a
idea
and
a
concept
of
don't
give
up
on
that
person.
B
Don't
give
up
on
that
person,
so
there
have
been
times
when
we've
gone
up
into
the
jail,
the
jail
or
even
the
detention
center
and
say:
hey.
You
know
you,
I
know
what
you
did.
You
know
what
I
mean.
I
know
what
you
did.
My
thing
is:
how
do
we
help
you
so
that
this
type
of
thing
never
happens
again,
because
sooner
or
later,
god
willing
they're
going
to
be
coming
back
out
to
the
street
again?
So
what
do
we
do
different
to
be
able
to
give
them
some
resources?
B
B
You
know
4-1-2
re-entry
whatever
it
is
that
how
do
we
connect
them
to
these
programs
to
be
able
to
lock
arms
with
them
to
be
able
to
say
we'll
do
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
be
successful?
You
know,
what's
been
amazing,
was
it
through
this
process?
There
have
been
times
when
I've
brought
mothers
who
lost
loved
ones
to
the
jail
with
me
to
be
able
to
meet
with
that
person
so
that
they
could
you
so
that
they
could
actually
realize
that
what
they
did.
You
know
it
affects.
B
It
affects
not
just
that
person
that
you
shot
at
or
you
did
that
to,
but
it
affects
the
village
at
large,
but
we
as
the
village
of
larva
large,
are
willing
to
work
with
you
to
be
able
to
to
give
you
that
support
to
be
able
to
help
make
some
change.
We
don't
give
up
on
you.
We
don't
give
up
on
you.
I
think
that's
like
the
biggest
passion
to
me
is.
You
know
someone
who
came
from
working
in
the
penitentiary
for
10
years
is
like
I
s.
B
I
see
you
know
the
results
of
like
you
know
what
happens
when
when
people
give
up
on
people,
but
I've
also
seen
the
results
of
when
you
lock
our
arms
with
that
person,
and
you
help
to
bring
the
genius
out
of
that
person
too.
You
know,
and
then
I
also
realized
you
know
I
was
talking
to
you-
know
a
lot
of
things
that
that
are
going
on
street
wise.
You
know
just
with
the
whole
trauma
piece.
My
mind
mindset
always
thinks
of
what's
their
story.
B
What
made
them
get
to
this
point
to
be
able
to
to
do
something
like
this,
then
realizing
that
a
lot
of
times
that
we
see
the
results
of
this
person
who
is
carrying
a
gun
and
all
that
type
of
stuff.
But
we
don't
realize
that
back
back,
you
know
in
the
future.
In
the
past
they
went
through
a
lot
of
traumatic
stuff.
I
like
to
sort
of
relate
it
to
that
old
concept
of
when
you're
making
a
snowball
it
might
sound
funny.
B
But
when
you're
making
a
snowball,
when
you
were
a
little
kid
you
you
take
that
snowball
and
you
you
roll
it
and
you
roll
it
and
it
gets
big,
big
big
and
it
gets
huge
it
people
don't
realize
that
way
back
then
it
was
a
little
pebble
of
a
snowball
and
that's
like
the
type
of
trauma
and
the
situations
that
we
deal
with
on
a
regular
basis.
We
see
the
big
snowball.
The
thing:
that's
that's
blocking.
A
It's
wonderful
dan
I'd
like
to
turn
to
you,
sir.
Could
you
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
the
neighborhood
resilience
project
and,
and
then
I
want
to
get
into
this
idea
of
of
the
response
to
trauma
and
how
you
all
approach
that
but
yeah,
if
you,
if
you
would
just
an
overview
of
neighborhood
resilience
project
from
your
perspective,.
D
So
community
trauma
is
this
big
massive
social
issue
and,
as
father
paul
has
taught
me,
issues
don't
have
solutions,
problems
do,
and
so
what
the
neighborhood
resilience
project
has
done
is
taken
this
social
issue
and
broken
it
down
into
individual
problems
and
then
created
a
program
to
address
that
problem
to
alleviate
the
trauma
within
that
problem.
So
a
couple
examples
of
programs
that
exist
within
the
trauma
response
team
that
have
arisen
over
time.
D
We
have
food
insecurity
in
our
communities
right,
so
if
kids
are
dependent
on
school
lunches
and
don't
have
food
at
home,
the
neighborhood
resilience
project
and
father
paul
have
created
the
backpack
feeding
program
as
a
way
of
packing
non-perishable
food,
handing
that
out
to
schools
on
thursdays
and
fridays.
So
kids
can
take
that
home
and
eat
that
over
the
weekend
right
and
the
backpack
feeding
program
when
it
was
at
its
peak
before
the
pandemic
and
the
schools
started
to
shut
down
were
feeding
upwards
of
ten
thousand
kids
a
week.
D
Handing
out
those
those
lunches,
the
reality
is
that
trauma
isolates
community
members
and
I
think
cornell
and
tyler
talked
about
that
it
it.
When
you
experience
a
threat
when
you
experience
trauma,
it
affects
your
sense
of
trust
and
safety
in
the
world,
and
you
stop
trusting
your
neighbors,
and
so
you
start
to
feel
this
social
isolation
from
your
neighbors.
D
Another
program
within
the
neighborhood
resilience
project,
medical
insecurity
right.
If
there's
lack
of
access
to
medical
care,
we've
created
a
free
health
clinic
that
helps
the
uninsured
and
underinsured
through
doctors
that
volunteer
their
time
pro
bono
by
appointment,
we've
seen
the
pandemic
disproportionately
affect
communities
of
color,
and
so
we've
trained
up
and
have
a
group
of
community
health
deputies
that
go
out
door
by
door
and
answer
questions
about
the
covet.
D
19
vaccine,
there's
obviously
historical
reasons
why
people
would
mistrust
medical
interventions
from
within
the
communities
of
color,
so
people
these
community
health
deputies
can
answer
questions
about
the
vaccine
and
if
people
are
interested
get
them,
access,
get
them
connected
to
vaccine
clinics,
and
so
the
next
one
is
my
program,
which
is
the
trauma
response.
Team
gun.
Violence
does
disproportionately
affect
communities
of
color.
We've
learned
and
seen
that
gun
violence
doesn't
just
affect
the
families
directly
affected
gun.
Violence
affects
the
entire
community
and
communities
that
are
most
affected
by
gun.
D
Violence
are
also,
unfortunately,
and
tragically,
the
most
neglected
by
mental
health
resources,
and
so
the
trauma
response
team
works
hard
to
stand
in
that
gap
to
intervene
in
the
immediate
aftermath
of
gun,
violence
and
shootings.
So
we
have
a
team
of
volunteers
that
we've
trained
up
and
we
deploy
on
our
31
foot
rv.
We
go
out
into
the
neighborhood
within
48
hours
of
a
shooting
and
we
offer
compassion
and
stabilization
to
the
neighborhood.
D
If
we
hear
some
hints
of
people
who
are
considering
retaliatory
violence,
we
work
through
violence
interrupters,
like
cornell
and
and
his
team,
to
intervene
in
a
way
that
leverages
community
relationships
right
that
that
brings
the
village
around
these
people,
who
are
hurting
and
wanting
to
lash
out
in
their
pain
and
trauma
and
and
offer
them
alternative
ways
to
to
vent
that
anger
and
and
that
trauma.
So
those
are
the
three
ways
that
we
kind
of
get
involved:
acute,
chronic
and
preventative
for
retaliatory
violence.
A
A
B
I
mean
I'd,
say:
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
we'd
have
to
figure
out
so,
depending
on
what
type
of
situation
it
is
if
this
is.
This
is
excuse
me
if
this
is
after
a
shooting
or
a
possible
shooting
a
lot
of
times.
What
will
happen?
Is
you
get
community
members
because
we're
blessed
to
have
people
who
are
of
the
community
who
are
who
are
pillars
in
the
village?
People
will
tell
them
what's
going
on
and
one
of
the
steps
that
one
of
the
steps
that
we'll
do
is
because
they'll
know
we'll
know.
B
What's
going
on
the
next
thing
that
we'll
do
is
we'll
find
out.
How
do
we
get
to
that
person?
How
do
we
get
to
that
person
and
what?
How
do
we
in
who
and
a
lot
of
times
who
is
connected
to
that
person?
That's
like
someone
that
they
look
up
to
who's
who's,
the
resource
who's,
the
he's
the
og
in
their
life
that
they
look
up
to
that
we
can
connect
them
to
and
then,
depending
on
the
level
of.
B
What's
going
on,
you
know
a
lot
of
times,
we'll
we'll
do
what's
called
a
custom
notification.
If
we
know
that
this
is
getting
extremely
intense,
a
custom
notification
is
when,
when
myself,
a
mother,
a
mother
of
who
lost
a
loved
one,
usually
outreach
worker,
a
law
enforcement
person
and
a
clergy
person.
Well
we'll
go
to
that
that
person's
house
and
go
there
and
be
and
talk
to
them
and
say:
hey.
B
You
know
we're
here
number
one,
because
we
care
about
you
word
is
that
you're
that
you're
planning
on
doing
something.
That's
gonna
jam
you
up.
In
fact,
you
know
I'm
a
little
bit
more
raw
in
my
approach
on
that
because
I'm,
like
you
know
word,
is
you
know
if
we're
at
your
door
right
now?
That
means
you
hot!
You
know
what
I
mean
that
you're
doing
a
lot
right.
B
Now,
that's
going
to
jam
yourself
up
and
you
know-
and
you
know
I
was-
I
don't
want
to
see
another
genius
genius
being
buried
and
I
don't
want
to
see
another
genius
in
the
penitentiary
again.
So
then,
usually
the
mother
jumps
in
and
you
know,
gives
a
breakdown,
and
you
know
val
dixon's
been
one
who's
been
amazing
with
that
valve's
letting
them
know
like
this.
Isn't
the
life?
You
don't
want
this
for
your
family.
You
don't
want
this
in
your
life.
B
You
know
I
mean,
then
the
clergy
person
comes
in
and
then
they
they're
pretty
much
like
you
know.
We
don't
want
to
bury
any
babies
and
that
type
of
thing
then
then
outreach
they're,
usually
the
outreach
person-
that's
usually
there
is
usually
looked
at
as
someone
who
was
og
in
that
community
and
og
is
looked
at
as
a
we
like
to
say
original
gangster,
someone
who's
extremely
respected
in
that
community
and
they're.
Like
look,
you
remember
how
I
used
to
get
down.
Look
at
me
now,
I'm
giving
back.
B
I
changed
my
life,
you
see
how
I'm
loving
it
on
the
community
and
all
that
type
of
stuff,
and
then
the
law
enforcement,
the
law
enforcement
person
is
usually
the
one
that
they
think
that
that,
when
we're
going
there
and
we're
talking
to
that
person
and
their
family,
they
think
that
the
law
enforcement
person
is
going
to
be
last
because
they're
going
to
arrest
them,
but
law
enforcement's
like
nah-
we're
not
here
for
anything
like
that.
You
know
what
I
mean.
You
heard
what
what
reverend
jones
said.
B
You
heard
what
the
people
said
we're
here,
because
we
want
to
stop
and
arrest.
We
want
to
stop
you
from
doing
something
that
is.
Is
you
know
that
will
mess
with
your
life,
and
with
that
you
know
I'd,
say
I'd,
say
97
percent
of
the
times
that
we've
done
that
people
have
fallen
back
from
doing
what
they
were
doing.
I
remember
one
time
when
you
know
I
usually
leave
this
speech,
but
I
remember
one
time
when
a
person
couldn't
wasn't
hearing
me
at
all
they
weren't
hearing
anything.
B
Probably
that
night
ended
up
falling
in
her
her
arms
in
in
crying,
because
there
was
so
much
pain
and
so
much
trauma,
and
then
we
were
able
to
connect
those
resources
and
being
able
to
follow
up
people
to
help
them
get
employment
and
help
them
get
stay
out
of
the
way-
and
I
could
say
until
this
day
like
up
to
this
day,
that
person's
been
out
of
the
way
that
hasn't
got
caught
up
in
any
major
street
violence
or
anything
like
that.
That's
been
three
years,
that's
huge!
Those
are
huge
victories.
B
That's
what
happens
when
the
village
works,
so
with
that
if
there
was-
and
I'm
probably
going
too
much,
but
with
that,
if
there
was
a
homicide,
the
first
thing
that
I'll
do
is
I'll
get
the
information
and
I'll
contact
neighborhood
resilience
I'll.
Let
them
know
what's
going
on,
they
come
out,
they
do
their
thing
they
set
up.
I
also
then
contact
my
outreach
team
to
be
able
to
connect
with
them
to
find
out.
B
You
know:
what's
going
on
who's
the
next
one
who's,
the
next
person
that
might
retaliate
what
resources
do
we
need
to
do
to
be
able
to
help?
Stop
that
that
situation.
Do
we
need
to
do
the
custom
notification
do
do
I
need
to
go
to
the
hospital
to
talk
to
the
family?
Do
we
need
to
go
to
the
crime
scene
and
talk
to
the
family,
whoever
who's
the
family?
Who
are
the
people
that
need
to
get
help
and
what
resources
do
we
need
to
get
help
with
there?
B
C
We
we
we
currently
just
to
kind
of
back
up
a
little
bit
on
just
another,
let's
say
angle,
because
we
do
have
an
infrastructure
in
place
where
outreach
workers
are
filling
out
risk
level
assessments
every
wednesday
and
and
they
come
to
a
dashboard
and
with
that
risk
level
assessment
outreach
workers,
you
know,
may
be
able
to
list
something,
as
is
it
has
a
yellow
red
green.
You
know
green
everything
as
far
as
they're
concerned.
C
There's
no
violence,
you
know
kind
of
stirring
up,
yellow
is
there's
some
tension
that
may
potentially
lead
to
violence,
and
then
red
violence
has
occurred
and
there's
some
some
steps
that
need
to
be
done
and
actually
on
the
wrist
level
assessment.
The
outreach
workers
are
able
to
choose
what
they
feel
would
be
some
of
the
best
things
to
kind
of
address
it.
Where
they
may
say,
we
need
a
custom
notification
tonight.
You
know
we'll
notify
cornell
outreach
workers
feel
like
there
needs
to
be
a
customer
on
this
particular
individual.
C
They
may
feel
like
there
may
be
need
increased
street
outreach
work
and
then
there's
been
times
when
outreach
workers
felt,
like
you
know,
there's
tension
happening
here
and
cornell.
You
need
to
get
police
presence
in
that
area.
Just
so.
We
prevent
the
disease
from
happening
because
we've
always
known
in
these
communities
that
once
it
happened,
the
potential
of
the
spreading
is,
you
know,
is
high.
So
there's
been
times
when
outreach
workers
said
listen,
we
just
need
a
police
presence
so
that
we
prevent
something
from
happening.
C
So
we
don't,
they
don't
have
to
deal
with
the
aftermath
of
the
spread
and-
and
so
I
just
wanted
folks
to
understand-
we
do
actually
have
a
system
in
place
on
how,
because
the
thing
is,
is
that
outreach
workers,
because
of
who
they
are?
They
have
the
ability
to
where
they're
knowledgeable
of
some
underlining
things
that
may
be
happening
a
lot
of
times.
Community
members
may
be
going
about
their
normal
everyday
life
and
they
don't
understand
that.
There's
tensions
that
there
may
be
some
things
that
happened.
C
You
know
kick
some
things
into
place,
because
one
thing
is:
is
that
when
violence
is
happening
in
these
communities,
it's
it's
very
seldom
is
at
random,
like
there
was
things
that
are
happening
led
up
to
these
violent
incidents
occurring
and
it's
it's
like,
and
it's
just
like.
The
disease
has
already
been
exposed
in
a
particular
area.
So
I'm
gonna
give
you
two
quick
examples
that
that
emphasize
this
disease
that
was
on
the
news
one
of
them,
was
on
the
news.
C
C
If
you
don't
end
up
quarantining
that
kid
coming
in
with
some
stuff
right
away,
then
you
would
have
other
kids
exposed
right,
so
the
disease
and
violence,
pops
up
one
kid
gets
murdered.
The
next
thing
you
know
within
eight
days,
two
other
kids
from
penn
hills
are
murdered
right.
That's
the
disease
spreading
two
weeks
before
that
three
kids
from
perry,
high
school
two
current
period,
high
school
students
and
one
who
graduated
the
year
before
the
disease,
pops
up
just
like
covet
pops
up
in
the
same
way
there's
a
potential
for
covert
to
spread.
C
Next
thing:
you
know
three
kids
from
perry
is
dead,
so
the
thing
is
is
once
the
disease
pops
up,
we
need
to
get
in
there.
You
know
what
I
mean
as
soon
as
possible
to
do
what
we
do
when
you
go
to
treat
the
disease
and
it,
and
there
needs
to
be
things
that
are
happening
prior
to
that,
so
that
you
prevent
the
disease
from
even
popping
up
and
spreading,
and
those
are
the
things
you
know
with
cobra.
You
say:
okay,
mass
social
distance,
educate
the
whole
net.
C
Violence
is
the
same
exact
way
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
always
coming
after
a
trauma
has
happened,
because
these
are
areas
that
have
high
exposure
to
the
disease
of
balance.
They've
always
been
traumatized
and
that's
the
importance
that
you're
you're
you're
dealing
with
it
with
it
with.
I
need
violence,
prevention,
outreach
work,
but
then
I
need
someone
to
address
the
trauma
because,
even
though,
let's
say
there
isn't
a
homicide
in
in
in
the
north
side
of
pittsburgh
and
north
view
heights,
just
as
an
example,
right
trauma
has
already
happened
in
that
community.
C
So
you
need
folks
in
there
dealing
with
that
trauma,
because
before
the
next
act
of
violence
happen,
it's
always
after
trauma
has
already
happened
and
they've
already
been
exposed
to
the
disease
of
violence.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
like
make
that
clear,
and
these
are
clear
examples
that
people
could
be
where
they're
like.
Okay,
I
did
see
on
the
news
where
three
kids
from
penn
hills-
you
know-
were
killed
and
then,
two
weeks
ago,
two
current
students
from
perry
and
one
from
last
year
were
killed.
C
B
B
But
I
think
it's
important
also
know
that
people
don't
realize
that
even
at
a
lot
of
these
funerals
of
situations
like
it,
it's
the
outreach
workers
that
are
inside
of
the
funerals
and
the
funeral
homes
and
things
like
that,
making
sure
that
you
know
not
all
in
front
of
everybody
but
making
sure
that
things
are
peaceful.
You
know
and
making
sure
that
things
are
peaceful,
we're
the
ones
who
are
working,
and
this
is
what
we
do-
connect
with
the
police
it
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
car
that's
closed.
B
You
know
what
I
mean
so
that
to
the
family,
a
lot
of
times
will
say
we're
worried
about
any
type
of
retaliation,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
there's
a
car
down
the
street
or
I'll
make
sure
there's
a
car
down
the
street.
That
is,
you
know
far
enough.
Just
so,
the
family
feels
comfortable
to
be
able
to
grieve.
You
know
in
a
way
that
they
feel
safe.
B
One
thing:
I'm
learning
is:
if
you're
able
to
get
to
them,
there's
it's
a
you,
have
a
it's
a
battle
between.
You
know
how?
How
much
do
you
want
to
be
free
from
this
situation?
And
or
do
you
want
to
you
know,
stay
in
this
type
of
lifestyle
and
once
the
emotions
start
getting,
then
it
takes
people
who
are
specialists
and
interrupting
that
disease
of
violence,
which
are
you
know,
outreach
teams
that
really
know
how
to
deal
with
that
because
they
lived
that
life
in
the
past.
A
D
Yeah,
we
call
it
acute
because
the
first
48
hours
after
a
traumatic
experience
is
the
acute
phase
of
trauma,
and
so
that's
when
the
doors
start
to
close
to
trust
and
safety
in
the
world
right
and
so
studies
have
shown
that
interventions
within
that
first
48
hours
help
to
keep
that
door
open.
So
the
trauma
response
team
has
a
group
of
volunteers
that
are
trained.
We
have
an
rv
cornell
might
notify
us
of
an
event
or
we
might
hear
about
it
on
the
news
and
within
48
hours.
D
We
are
planning
to
go
out
to
that
neighborhood
on
our
rv,
and
so
we
notify
our
volunteers
rally
at
our
office
in
the
hill
district
and
they
go
out
to
the
crime
scene,
we'll
canvas
the
neighborhood,
we'll
walk
around
and
interact
with
people
in
public
spaces,
offering
that
compassion
and
stabilization
the
rv
before
the
pandemic
served
as
kind
of
a
sanctuary,
a
mobile
sanctuary,
a
safe
space
where
people
can
come
in
and
talk
about
their
experience
without
their
neighbors.
Seeing
and
we're
getting
back
to
that
now
that
people
are
vaccinated.
D
We
we
know
that
trauma
has
been
visited
on
these
communities,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
crash
into
people's
lives.
We
we
leverage
community
relationships,
so
we
talk
to
people
on
their
street
on
their
porches
and
we
ask
if
they
know
of
any
neighbors
who
are
going
through
it
who
are
really
struggling
and
if
they
do,
would
they
please
connect
us
right.
They
could
call
them
invite
them
out
to
talk
to
us
while
we're
around.
D
A
You
mentioned
this
idea
of
of
studies
showing
that
intervention
in
48
hours
have
been
proven
effective.
What
other
kind
of
research
based
topics
inform
your
work,
and
I'm
particularly
interested
in
this
concept
that
I've
heard
in
different
spaces
recently
around
ace
and
that's
an
acronym.
Could
you
walk
us
through
what
that
is
and
how
it
informs
the
work
that
you
do.
D
Of
course,
yeah,
so
ace
refers
to
adverse
childhood
experiences,
and
so
the
ace
scores.
I
I
think
the
the
studies
show
that
at
least
two-thirds
of
the
general
population
of
the
united
states
has
at
least
one
adverse
childhood
experience
out
of
a
questionnaire
of
10
potential
adverse
childhood
experiences.
A
A
Can
you
ground
us
in
in
how
this
shows
up
in
community,
where
you
know
you
know
an
individual
that
has
these
adverse
childhood
experiences
there
may
be
these
impacts.
What
are
the
impacts
for
when
that
is
perpetuated
over
time
and
when
communities
experience
that
reality
over
time,
then
and
then
we'll
pivot
to
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
in
healing
and
things
like
this,
but
I'm
wondering
what
your
reflections
are.
B
So
I'll
give
you
so
what
I'm
thinking
about
it?
The
first
thing,
that's
coming
to
my
mind,
is
a
couple
of
things.
First,
you
know
from
my
experience,
you
know,
being
a
chaplain
in
a
penitentiary,
something
that
I
that
I
I've
seen
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
guys
when,
when
you're,
when
that
door
was
shut
in
a
lot
of
people
would
break
down
crying
because
of
the
trauma
that
they've
gone
through
as
a
kid.
B
You
know
what
I
mean
and
a
lot
of
those
things
that
happened
to
them
as
a
child
which
equaled
them
being
this
angry
individual
that
didn't
have
any
coping
skills
that
didn't
have
any
resources
or
any
type
of
support
system
and
which
helped
them
to
end
up
being
in
situations
that
they
got
caught
up
in
that
ended
them
up
in
the
penitentiary.
You
know
what
I
mean.
That
was
something
that
that
that
I
always
thought
was
so
important.
You
know
being
one
who
worked
on
the
victim
side
and
the
in
the
offenders
side.
B
I've
learned
that
a
lot
of
times
the
people
who
that
were
the
offenders
were
victims
in
the
past
too.
In
a
lot
of
different
situations,
we
don't
we
don't
see
that,
but
the
reason
I'm
sharing.
That
is
because
that's
that's
past
history
of
things
that
have
happened
in
the
past,
but
then
I've
also
been
one
who
worked
in
the
in
the
juvenile
facilities
through
the
years
too,
and
when
I
was
working
with
the
juvenile
in
the
facilities.
B
B
Tell
my
dad,
I
said
hi,
you
know
what
I
mean
you
know,
and
so
you
got
generations
of
you
know
things
that
have
that
have
been
going
on
through
so
many
different
years
and
I'm
like
okay,
these
are
these
are
cycles.
These
are
cycles.
You
know
my
wife
talks
about
cycles
all
the
time.
These
are
cycles
that
need
to
be
that
need
to
be
broken.
These
are
cycles
that
of
of
you
know.
You
know
the
drug,
alcohol
abuse
that
that
that
people
have
seen
why
people
don't
ever
say.
Why
are
they
why?
Why
is
there?
B
Why
they?
Why
they?
You
know
people
like.
Oh
everyone
in
my
family's
an
alcoholic
okay,
what's
the
history
of?
Where
did
it
start
or
you
know
what
what
happened
and
then
you
find
out
that
someone
was
sexually
abused
back
then,
or
even
you
know
what
I
mean
back
to
grandma
being
abused.
You
know
back
doing
the
civil
rights
movement
and
beating
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
where
she
started
to
numb
it
with
drugs
and
alcohol.
B
I
just
feel,
like
that's,
been
important
to
to
to
understand
that
this
stuff
goes
in
cycles
and
it
and
it
goes
and
if
you
don't
get
the
proper
help.
You
know
just
just
to
be
honest
with
you
as
an
outreach
worker
and
someone
who
deals
in
this
field.
If
you
don't
get
the
proper
help,
it
could
jam
you
up.
It
could
mess
with
you
everything
from
your
household
to
your
children,
to
your
focus
on
a
regular
day
basis,
because
we
see
so
much
pain.
B
So
it's
something
that
has
to
be
dealt
with
on
a
regular
basis.
So,
but
I've
seen
the
cycles
I've
seen
you
know
the
grandfather
and
I've
also
seen
that
the
father
and
the
son
in
the
same
cell.
You
know
what
I
mean
that
it
came
at
a
different
time,
so
these
cycles
are
things
that
have
to
be
broken.
So
I
that's
just
something
that
that
that's
heavy
on
my
heart
and
I
feel
like
it's
important
to
know,
but
these
cycles
are
something
that
I
feel
like
that
are
the
elephant
in
the
room.
C
So
the
white
homeowners
felt
like
this
black
family.
I
don't
know
they
thought
it
would
bring
down
their
property
value
or
they
just
felt.
You
know
threatened
by
these
these
these
black
families
and
it
became
this
tension.
You
know,
and
this
tension
you
know
kind
of,
went
back
and
forth.
You
know
the
night
that
my
grandmother
was
murdered.
C
C
and
you
you,
when
you
understand
violence
and
this
disease
of
violence,
you
see
how
they're
connected
you
see
how
this
black
family
was.
It
was
infected
by
the
disease
of
violence
and
a
lot
of
times
in
our
communities.
You
know
over
generations,
you
know
there
were
situations
where
white
mobs
came
into
black
communities
and
they
they
committed
violence.
C
I
mean
folks
know
about
the
tulsa
massacres,
things
like
that
happened
in
america
all
throughout
this
country
over
the
years,
so
it
would
be
like
someone
who's
responsible
for
let's
say
covet
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
after
that
they
give
you
no
assistance
to
eliminate
the
disease
of
covet
and
then
10
years
later,
you're
dying
from
covert
in
that
neighborhood
and
the
person
that
brought
it
says
what's
wrong
with
y'all.
Why
are
y'all
still
dying
from
coving
and
it's
like?
C
Well,
you
infected
me
with
coping
so
white
people
have
infected
black
communities
with
the
disease
of
violence
and
then
10
20,
30
40,
60
years
later,
they're
saying
what's
wrong
with
these
people.
Why
are
they
dying
from
this
disease?
I
infected
them
with
and
we
didn't
give
them
the
resources
to
to
treat
it
a
lot
of
times
what
ends
up
happening
like
even
in
the
community
that
my
brother
died
in.
C
C
The
original
carrier
of
it
doesn't
have
to
be
around
for
the
disease
to
continue
to
spread
and,
and
I've
seen
that
so
then
we
had
a
community
that
was
generationally
affected
by
trauma
generationally
affected
about
exposure
to
the
disease
of
violence,
to
the
point
that
the
community
was
like
considered
this
terrible
community
and
folks
moved.
I
know
after
my
brother
was
murdered.
C
My
mother
just
literally
left
the
house
and
moved
with
her
husband
to
another
place
and
then
eventually
lost
the
house
to
back
taxes
and
then
folks
came
in
and
said,
yo
there's,
there's
value
in
this
location.
This
is
where
the
mexican
war
was
was
led
from
general
robson
led
a
mexican
war
from
this
street.
C
When
he
was
14
years
old
and
his
heart,
you
know
they
said
his
heart
felt
failed
at
allegany
general
and
he
died
as
well,
but
there's
just
signs
of
so
many.
You
know
things
within
our
family
to
where
it's.
You
know
at
the
time
the
present
time
you'll
say
what's
wrong
with
them,
instead
of
saying
what
happened
to
them
right
and
we're
not
talking
about.
You
know
that
that
generational
thing
where
they
say
you
know
your
ancestors
were
slaves.
C
We're
talking
about
me,
my
grandmother,
my
brother's
grandmother
and
and
and
for
folks
that
understand
grandparents,
the
mothers,
your
mother's
mother,
you
have
a
certain
connection,
because
it's
mama's
babies,
it
could
be
daddy's,
maybe
in
a
sense,
but
when
that
baby
is
born
from
that
mother,
one
thing
that
grandmother
knows
that's
her
child
right.
So
to
never
have
that
connection
of
a
grandmother
in
the
in
the
family
and
people
that
understand
the
value
that
grandparents
bring.
You
would
see
that
there
would
end
up
being
problems
and
and
and
all
throughout
my
my
first
cousins.
C
These
are
my
first
cousins.
We
have
different
violent,
let's
say
issues
that
that
were
like
things
that
that
drew
city-wide
attention
where
it
was
like.
Why
are
these
people
so
violent?
Like
you
know,
I
got
two
of
my
two
three
of
my
girl
cousins,
really
that
have
a
streak
of
violence
in
them,
but
they're
grounded
they've
been
affected
with
violence
before
they
were
even
here
when
their
mother
was
12..
You
know
it
happened
when
my
mom
was
maybe
11..
My
other
aunt
was
10-9.
It
was
four
of
them.
C
C
So
my
thing
is:
that's
why
it's
important,
first
of
all,
with
this
work
that
when
you
go
to
address
any
violent
communities
of
violence,
right
that
when
you
have
the
violence,
prevention
and
the
outreach
work,
you
also
realize
they
go
hand
in
hand
with
trauma
response
and
folks
that
can
address
the
trauma.
They
have
to
go
hand
in
hand.
That's
the
one
thing.
The
second
thing
is
that
there
has
to
be
long-term
investments
for
these
things
to
exist,
because,
as
we
just
realized
from
covet,
you
can
have
a
vaccination
and
folks
decide.
C
They
don't
want
to
take
it.
So
we
can
be
we're
treating
the
disease
of
violence
in
these
communities
and
just
because
we
put
our
hands
up
and
say
we
have
a
treatment
for
this
disease,
doesn't
mean
everybody's
going
to
take
us
on
right
away.
They
need
to
know
that
we're
consistent
that
we're
invested
that
we're
here.
They
need
to
see
it
work
for
other
people
and
then
they
may
get
to
the
point
of
saying
man
let's
go
on
down
and
and
get
involved
with
some
of
this
treatment
of
this
disease
and
violence.
C
Maybe
we
go
talk
to
some
folks
as
far
as
the
trauma,
so
a
lot
of
times
we
get
caught
up
where
people
say,
I'm
gonna
give
money
for
violence
prevention.
I'm
gonna
give
money
for
trauma.
If
I
don't
see
a
result
in
two
years,
then
I'm
gonna
try
to
see
if
that
money
needs
to
go
somewhere
else,
but
that's
that
what
would
with
treaty
disease?
C
When
I
talked
with
a
woman
at
the
public
at
the
health
department,
when
I
worked
over
there,
she
said
I
was
15
years
before
we
started
to
see
a
movement
on
diabetes,
but
they
started
on
a
campaign
and
for
15
years
she
said,
we've
finally
seen
a
movement
on
it.
So
when
it
comes
to
us
violence,
prevention
workers,
trauma
response
workers
make
the
investment,
give
us
time
for
the
community,
to
trust
us
to
be
able
to
treat
these
diseases
and
and
make
that
long-term
investment
to
where
you
know,
you'll
see.
A
Incredible,
thank
you
so
much.
I
want
to
open
it
up
just
to
the
to
the
rest
of
the
panel
for
reactions
or
just
general
thoughts,
and
I
want
to
pick
up
on
this
theme
that
tyler
was
talking
about
too,
which
is
this
idea
of
trust,
building,
treating
the
disease
and
healing.
Where
does
that
concept
begin
to
come
in
in
this
conversation,
but
please
reactions
are
just
thoughts.
B
B
Their
role
is
so
important
and
and
that's
key
bringing
the
faith
community
in
the
mix
is
is
key
to
me
too,
but
realizing
that
you
know
there's
a
stigma
in
the
in
the
black
community
that
you
know
you
know
if
you
go
to
get
some
type
of
therapeutic
help.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
you
know,
there's
something
wrong
with
you
and
all
that
type
of
stuff.
No,
you
know
it's.
My
wife
always
shares
you
know.
B
If
you
break
your
arm
you're
going
to
a
doctor,
you
know
what
I
mean
you're,
going
to
the
places
that
you
need
to
go
to
to
be
able
to
get
the
support
and
and
the
resources
to
be
able
to
get
the
help
that
you
need.
So
these
are
people
who
are
who
are
giving
god-given
gifts.
You
know
what
I
mean
to
be
able
to
help
us
through
this
process.
So
you
know
if
there
are
people
that
are
afraid
to
go.
B
You
know
I've
told
people
I'll
walk
you
to
to
get
some
therapeutic
support,
I'll,
walk
you
and
I'll
walk
you
through
the
process
to
be
able
to
get
you
connected
to
a
re-entry
program
that
that
that
works,
I'll
walk,
you
to
know,
tally
and
I'll
do
the
hand
off
to
tally,
because
I
trust
holly
to
be
able
to
get.
You
know
the
resources
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
get
help
I'll
walk.
B
You
I'll
drive
you
up
to
neighborhood
resilience
and
we'll
sit
down
with
dan
and
father,
paul
and
antoine
or
whoever
we
need
to
sit
down
with
to
be
able
to
get
them
the
resource.
So
it's
about
relationship
relationship
is
key
relationship
is
key
in
letting
people
know
that
you
know
this
is
a
process
this
you
know
you
didn't
get
here
overnight.
It's
not
gonna
be
overnight
to
get
it
fixed,
but
you
know
through
through
the
village,
we
can
really
make
some
things
change.
B
D
A
quick
thought
like
how
much
more
important
is
your
mind
than
your
arm
right.
I
mean
how
so,
if
you're
going
to
go
to
a
doctor
to
see
your
arm,
why
wouldn't
you
take
even
better
care
of
your
mind
and
and
your
psychological
well-being,
yep
yeah?
I
think
the
big
reason
why
the
trauma
response
team
is
is
volunteer.
Based
is
that
we
want
everyday
people
helping
everyday
people
right.
Our
dream
trauma
responder
is
someone
from
within
the
community
that
is
disproportionately
affected
by
gun
violence
walking
beside
their
neighbor
right
when
we
go
out
there.
D
The
acute
response
is
important.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
it
does
take
the
village
it.
It
does
take
wraparound
relationships
and
the
whole
community
surrounding
people.
So
the
reason
we
train
everyday
people-
it's
not.
We
don't
have
this
movement
of
clinicians
and
clergy,
although
we
do
have
clinicians
and
clergy
on
our
volunteer
base,
but
we
want
to
embed
trauma,
awareness
and
trauma
support
into
the
dna
of
pittsburgh
and
allegheny
county,
and
the
only
way
you
do,
that
is
to
start
to
train
volunteers.
D
You
get
people
scattered
throughout
the
city
and
throughout
allegheny
county
who
can
be
part
of
our
acute
response,
but
could
also
be
part
of
the
chronic
healing
with
their
neighbors
right
and
the
reality
is
when
we
go
out
and
talk
to
trauma
to
to
people
who
have
been
traumatized
by
gun
violence.
I
think
ty
lee
touched
on
this.
A
C
It's
mindfulness
man,
it
changed
my
life,
I'm
gonna
be
honest.
There
was
a
guy
richard
king,
dr
king,
who
was
just
persistent
like
man.
You
know
he
reached
out
to
me
and
said:
listen,
I
want
to
do
mindfulness
in
communities,
that's
impacted
by
violence
and
he
just
was
persistent,
was
persistent
and
then
I
got
to
the
point.
I
said
I
took
him
up
on
it.
My
organization
used
opportunity
development.
C
We
had
a
location
on
the
north
side
on
rezaka,
one
of
my
board
members,
reverend
dave
said:
let's
just
start
going
classes
once
a
week
here
on
the
north
side
at
10
o'clock,
and
you
know
richard
came
and
we
started
having
classes
and
there
was
different
guys
who
came
up
to
jail.
I
invited
him
to
the
class.
I
eventually
during
that
time
my
brother
was
shot
and
I
ended
up
giving
richard
in
into
the
hospital
for
him
to
give
do
mindfulness
with
with
my
brother.
C
So
I
might
have
prepared
what
I
was
gonna
say
wherever
I
was
at
before.
I
got
there
so
my
mind
constantly
raced
all
the
time,
but
after
you
know
studying
with
rich
man,
and
I
continued
to
do
it,
it
allowed
me
to
eventually
have
peace
man
where
I
could
be
at
a
meeting
and
I'm
present
and
I'm
I'm
engaged
with.
C
What's
going
on,
like
my
mind's,
not
racing,
it's
not
sending
me
anywhere
and
anytime
that
I
you
know
I
I
attempt
to
do
some
form
of
mindfulness
on
a
regular
basis,
so
that
I
make
sure
I
stay
in
tune
because
it
was
one
of
the
most
clearing
things
that
happened
to
me,
and
these
are
things
that
we
need
in
our
communities
is
that
we
need
mindfulness
practices,
but
we
need
to
understand
that
they
you
know.
First,
we
got
to
trust
the
people
that
they
work
and
I
think
with
some
guys.
C
You
know
that
I
grew
up
with
they
know.
If
I'm
saying
this
work
and
they're
like
all
right,
I
trust
ty,
because
you
know
I
always
you
know
kept
it.
You
know
as
100
as
they
would
say.
So
I'm
not
selling
you
on
something
because
there's
nothing
to
actually
sell
because
with
richard
he
didn't
want
a
dollar.
He
just
wanted
to
come
in
and
do
mindfulness
in
communities.
That's
been
impacted
by
violence,
and
then
he
wanted
me
to
teach
me
to
do
it.
C
You
know
with
other
folks
where
I've
done
that
before
I've
done
it
with
my
wife
as
well.
I
even
started
doing
some
mindfulness
with
my
son
and
felt
like
it
could
give
him
more
concentration
with
the
you
know,
high
level
sports
that
he
plays.
So
all
of
these
things
from
trauma
response
to
mindfulness
are
changing
community
norms.
I
understand
if
you've
been
trained
as
a
trauma
response,
guy
and
and
trauma's
happening
now.
C
Instead
of
you
going
remember
that
community
norm,
I
talked
about
where
you
go
indoors
and
you
close
your
curtains
and
you
don't
concern
about
your
neighbors
if
you're
trained
as
a
trauma
response
individual
if
the
trauma's
taking
place
you're
coming
out
sad
now,
you're
concerned
is
your
neighbor
okay
you're
responding
of
to
a
trauma?
That's
happened.
C
That's
changing
the
community
norm
that
that
you
know,
may
have
used
to
lead
to
violence
rather
you're
going
indoor
you're
coming
outdoor
and
then,
as
you
move
forward,
you
get
to
the
point
of
being
able
to
do
some
mindfulness
in
your
neighborhood
with
some
of
your
neighbors.
All
of
these
are
changing
community
norms,
and
these
are
things
that
work
and
I've
seen
them
work.
I've
experienced
them
and
they
changed
my
life.
It's.
A
D
Yeah,
I
think
we
might
have
painted
a
bleak
picture
here
with
ace
scores
and
and
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
say-
and
I
wanted
to
say
earlier-
that
trauma
and
adverse
childhood
experiences
are
not
destiny.
Right
healing
from
trauma
resiliency
is
possible.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
attrition
rate
for
trauma
therapists
is
lower
than
a
traditional
therapist
because
they
get
to
participate
in
seeing
someone
move
from
trauma
towards
resilience
in
a
way
that
doesn't
always
happen
as
quickly
with
other
chronic
mental
illnesses
right
with
with
bipolar
depression,
or
something
like
that.
D
So
I
wanted
to
say
that
first,
I
would
also
say
that
the
trauma
response
team
and
the
neighborhood
resilience
project
is
is
starting
an
in-school
program
this
year
to
raise
up
trauma,
aware
supporters
from
within
a
student
body.
It's
gonna
look
a
little
different
than
going
out
to
neighborhoods,
but
we're
working
with
schools
on
that
so
and
we're
we're
just
talk
in
conversations
with
schools
that
are
disproportionately
affected
by
gun
violence.
If
any
we
are
volunteer
based.
D
D
The
main
thing
that
we
tell
people
is
all
we
ask
from
our
volunteers.
Is
the
baseline
level
of
maturity,
phys
mental
maturity,
emotional
maturity,
spiritual
maturity,
the
rest,
we
will
train
you
on
and
we
we
have
a
whole
curriculum
that
will
equip
you
to
be
a
trauma
responder
to
your
neighbors,
so
we
will
train
and
certify
you.
All
we
ask
for
is
maturity
and
availability.
That's
it.
B
What
believe
it
or
not?
I
want
people
to
get
involved
and
get
involved
with
neighborhood
resilience.
I
want
them
to
have
you
know.
300-400
people
lined
up.
You
know
involved
with
that.
I
want
people
to
get
involved
with
mad
dads
organization.
That's
out
there
in
the
community
walking
in
communities
that
I
want
them
to
get
involved
in
gvi
and
the
outreach
component
of
what
we
do.
I
think
the
the
key
is
getting
involved.
You
know
what
I
mean.
I
want
people
to
get
involved
and
I
want
people
to
get
healing.
B
You
know
what
I
mean
our
people
are
hurting
people
are
hurting,
get
the
support
systems
that
we
need
connect.
You
know,
there's
there's
support
groups
out
there.
There
are
people
out
there
and
because
there's
so
much
stuff,
that's
going
on
in.
In
addition
to
kovit,
you
know
what
I
mean,
there's
so
much
that
we
all
need
to
get
support
and
help
for
to
be
able
to
help.
You
know
I
mean
live
our
life
in
the
best
way.
B
We
can
but
don't
be
afraid
to
to
go
to
that
person
who's
a
specialist
in
that
field
to
get
the
support,
and
you
know
shout
out
to
still
smiling
you
know
what
I
mean.
I'm
gonna
give
him
a
shout
out
in
the
center
for
victims,
julius
bill
wright
center
for
victims.
People
like
that
shout
out
to
dr
jones,
my
wife.
You
know
what
I
mean
who's
on
the
front
lines
with
this
type
of
stuff
too.
B
These
are
you
know
it's
important
that
everybody
gets
excited
to
get
involved,
because
I
it
hurts
to
see
people
hurting
so
much
because
they're,
you
know
a
lot
of
times:
you're
not
able
to
keep
jobs,
you're
not
able
to
focus
you're,
not
able
to
do
things.
But
it's
it's,
because
that
that
situation
is
going
on
people
don't
realize
you
got
to
get
the
help
for
that.
So
you
can
be
successful
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
help
you
get
that
help
and
support
so
that
you
could
so
that
you
could
win.
C
To
echo
on
kind
of
what
cornell
said
I
remember
years
ago,
when
I
was
talking
with
somebody
and
they
said
well,
you
know,
there's
no
silver
bullet
hate
to
use
that
word
bullet
to
this,
and
I'm
actually
like
there
is.
The
silver
bullet
is
participation
literally
if
we
get
people
to
participate
at
all
levels
on
all
things
we'll
be
okay
like
like
literally
and
and
I
need
people
to
make
the
connection
that
you
know
as
they're.
C
When
you
understand
this
disease,
then
you
realize
the
generational
history
of
the
disease
that
this
country
has
inflicted
on
these
underserved
communities.
And
that's
that's,
you
know,
been
a
historical
response.
You
know
for
this
country,
I
mean
we
can't
act
like
on
january
6
that
we
didn't
have
a
mob
of
white
people
that
murdered
police
in
washington
dc.
So
we've
had
a
history
in
this
country
to
respond
with
violence
with
balance
so
for
some
reason,
folks,
you
know
tend
to
take
a
step
back
and
say:
why
is
this
happening
instead
of
saying
wow?
C
A
Incredible,
I
want
to
thank
each
of
you
so
much
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart
for
the
work
that
you
do
and
for
sharing
this
space
and
and
and
sharing
so
vulnerably.
I
I
want
to
echo
as
well.
I
encourage
folks
to
look
up
neighborhood
resilience,
pro
project
tyler's
work
at
operation,
better
block,
reverend
jones
group,
violence,
intervention
work
as
well
as
the
other
organizations
that
have
been
mentioned
and
to
dam's
point.
A
You
know
if
you've
paid
attention
to
this
conversation-
and
you
know
folks,
are
open-eyed
about
the
challenges
and
there's
a
lot
of
pain.
There's
a
lot
of
trauma,
there's
also
a
lot
of
reason
to
be
encouraged,
and
I
think
you
know
you
have
three
examples
here
of
folks
that
are
dedicating
their
lives
to
this
as
examples
of
that
there's
ever
more
resources
in
this
space,
including
paid
work,
there's
ever
more
trainings
in
the
space
to
equip
folks
that
want
to
step
forward
to
find
the
right
lane
for
them.
A
There
are
people
ready,
willing
and
able
to
connect,
and
that
would
welcome
that
if
you're
a
faith
leader,
if
you're
a
community
leader,
if
you're
a
returned
citizen,
if
you're,
just
a
a
neighbor,
there's
a
there's
a
place
for
you
in
this
work
and
and
that
that
participation
call
that
thailee
made,
I
think,
is,
is
what
we
want
to
want
to
leave
with
it
can
be.
It
could
be
tough
to
take
that
first
step,
but
just
know
there
are
resources
available,
whether
that's
you
know
trainings
education,
etc.
A
To
make
sure
that
folks
are
are
equipped
and
reverend
jones.
I'm
thinking
you
know
about
the
power
of
the
testimony
to
hear
the
the
stories
from
folks
and
community
how
powerful
it
is
to
to
be
able
to
sit
with
that,
and
I'm
reminded
in
this
moment
of
this
idea
of
of
david's
mighty
men,
which
are
like
famous
heroes
from
from
olden
times.
A
But
if
you
look
at
the
origin
stories,
those
were
folks
that
society
had
given
up
on
and
they
were
they
were
in
the
desert
in
the
caves
and
and
that
speaks
to
a
to
a
barren
existence.
An
oppressive
existence,
one
without
a
lot
of
resources,
one
without
a
lot
of
support,
and
it
was
those
men
that
ended
up
becoming
these
champions
that
are
that
are
so
famous
because
there
was
leadership
and
there
was
there
was
relationship
that
did
not
give
up
on
them.
A
Just
like
you
were
talking
about
reverend
that
that
walked
with
them
met
them
where
they
were
at
and
walked
with
them,
and-
and
we
see
the
transformation
so
anyways
we'll
leave
it
there.
Please
stay
tuned
for
more
broadcast
from
the
city,
where
we'll
lean
in
to
intersection,
try
to
uplift
important
work
and
talk
about
the
challenges
and
the
opportunities,
let's
all
road
together
going
into
this
summer,
we
want
peace,
we
want
to
build
peace,
we
don't
want
to
just
take
it
for
granted
or
declare
it.
A
We
want
to
be
about
the
work
of
building
it
because
our
our
communities,
our
neighborhoods,
our
families,
our
children,
deserve
every
opportunity
to
thrive,
and
we
believe
that
for
them-
and
we
want
to
see
it
become
a
reality.
So
without
further
ado.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time
and
we'll
see
you
next.