►
From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting May 12, 2020
Description
Planning Commission Virtual Meeting
May 12, 2020
00:10 Start of Meeting
00:28 Minutes
Old Business
(1) Application 20-50003 City Services Request continued from April 14, TMP 123-20-03-004, 101 Dominion Drive, by Christian Judy (CONTINUED).
New Business
01:10 (1a) Application 20-20017 Annexation Request, TMP 089-14-01-001, Pine Log and Richardson’s Lake Road, by Crowell & Co, Inc.
01:10 (1b) Application 20-22005 Concept Plan Approval, TMP 089-14-01-001, Pine Log and Richardson’s Lake Road, by Crowell & Co, Inc.
39:53 (2) Application 20-22006 Concept Plan Approval, TMP 107-07-16-001, end of Polaris Drive, by Ketan Patel.
Adjournment
You can send comments to any future meetings at PCComment@CityofAikenSC.gov
A
Okay,
are
we
all
we're
here?
Okay,
I'm
gonna
call
this
a
regular
meeting
of
the
Asian
Planning
Commission
on
Tuesday
May,
the
12th
2020
in
session
first
item
of
business
is
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
April
14th
2020
work
session
and
regular
meeting.
So
do
I
have
a
motion
on
that
motion
to
approve
okay,
good,
so
my
second
second,
all
right,
good
everybody
in
favor
raise
your
right
hand.
A
All
business
was
an
item
which
was
originally
scheduled,
has
now
been
continued
until
some
future
time,
so
we
won't
do
with
that.
New
business
application,
number
20,
2001,
seven,
annexation,
request
on
pine
log
in
Richardson,
bike,
road
bike,
rolling
company
and
we'll
do
a
and
B
together.
B
is
application
number
20
days,
2200
five
for
a
concept
playing
approval
on
pine
log
enriches
like
road
bike,
roll
and
company.
B
B
Pc
comment
at
city
of
aiken
SC
gov.
You've
already
had
a
lot
of
responses
submitted
to
you
either
as
part
of
the
package
or
a
digital
submittal.
Today
we
also
distributed
those
to
applicants
and
any
interested
parties
and
I
have
a
handful
of
items
here
that
have
come
in
in
the
interim
I'll
go
ahead
and
and
kind
of
introduce
those.
B
He
wanted
to
point
out
that
it
that,
if
it's
a
desire
to
match
the
new
homes,
an
existing
neighborhood,
the
multifamily
structures,
which
are
the
townhomes
in
this
case,
were
not
in
the
original
design.
So
they
has
concerns
about
the
triplex
buildings,
requesting
the
consideration
of
single-family
homes.
B
Only
and
again
reiterates
concern
about
Bay,
Meadows
being
a
through
long
stretch.
Street
in
consideration
of
a
three-way
stop
at
the
intersection.
We
also
have
another
one
from
Nancy
McKenzie
in
the
neighborhood
off
Bay
Meadows
Drive
and
is
concerned
about
it.
Changing
from
a
quiet,
single
cul-de-sac,
style
entrance
to
where
there
would
be
through
traffic,
mentions
consideration
of
a
three-way
stop.
B
It
can
pronounce
and
Bay
Meadows
to
try
to
reduce
speed
of
people
transitioning
from
one
side
of
the
neighborhood,
to
the
other,
ask
for
consideration
of
a
speed,
bump
or
speed
hump
down
Bay
Meadows,
and
we
would
have
just
some
some
basically
I'll
interject
on
there.
So
public
safety
review,
speed,
humps
and
does
so
in
conjunction
with
studying
certain
traffic.
B
You
know
levels
and
speeds,
and
things
like
that,
but
also
we
we
do
run
those
by
Public,
Safety,
make
sure
they're
not
interfering
with
any
below
ground
utilities
and
then
that
an
alternate
incident
and
entrance
should
be
strongly
considered.
They
mentioned
potentially
were
a
where
their
current
retaining
pond
is
possibly
to
the
side
of
that,
and
then
a
third,
and
this
is
fairly
lengthy
from
John
L
Mills.
This
is
representing.
B
A
So
we've
got
those
you
emailed
to
us.
Those
comments
and
I
came
by
and
picked
up
a
hard
copy
of,
most
of
them
and
the
this
they
are
primarily
concerned
with
the
safety
issue
involving
speed
possible,
speeding,
the
three-way
stop
sign
issue
and
another
entrance,
and
another
entrance
issue
seem
to
be
a
fairly
common
theme
to
trying
to
develop
another
interest.
Who
who
is
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this
Ryan?
D
C
C
A
C
F
E
C
C
C
C
You
know
I,
think
that's
been
a
question.
You
know
the
Corolla
company
builds
townhomes.
They
they
like
them.
People
seem
to
like
them
because
they
buy.
You
know,
that's
that's
kind
of
in
that
this
is
gonna
fit
in
with
this
neighborhood
they're
kind
of
away
from
the
original
development.
So
if
you're,
if
you're
living
in
the
original
development,
you
know
have
you
don't
like
town
owes?
C
Well,
you
don't
have
to
see
them
because
you
don't
walk
back
there,
but
if
you,
if
you're
living
in
this
development,
you
know
they'll,
be
there
and
you'll
know
when
you
buy
your
house
they're
there
in
that
area.
So
that's
speaking
of
the
townhomes
the
traffic.
We
look
a
number
of
different
ways
trying
to
get
a
second
entrance
because
I
know
that's
a
big
thing
with
the
city.
C
C
Going
through
I
heard
in
the
pre
meeting
about
you
know
ability
to
go
through
some
common
area.
That
is
in
Kippur
downs.
That's
that's
a
really
a
non-starter
they're,
tough!
Oh,
it
just
doesn't
work.
Wetlands
floodplain
other
things
like
that,
going
going
to
pile
all
through
the
remainder
of
the
property
that
that
would
be
almost
impossible
to
build,
it
would
be
financially
impossible
for
this
development.
I
mean
there's
about
a
30
or
40.
Foot
drop
from
this
area
to
the
to
a
wetland
stream
Creek
with
dams
would
be
very
difficult
to
do.
That.
E
C
C
The
concerns
you
know,
speed,
humps
I'm,
not
really
a
fan
of
adding
stop
signs.
We've
talked
about
traffic
calming,
you
know
we
would
work
with
the
city
engineer
or
their
traffic
engineer.
You
know
and
help
with
that
and
make
marked
with
markers
that
you
know
that's
something
we
would
work
out
with
the
other
and
the
traffic
study
which
was
mentioned
in
the
preemie
ting
I
mean
it's.
G
C
It's
just
not
enough
trap
may
I
know
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
homes
and
there's
really
not
that
that
large
of
a
number
in
my
opinion
and
I
live
in
a
large
subdivision
with
over
for
our
homes
with
two
interests.
So
basically
the
same
thing.
So
I
guess
you
know
it's
just
just
not
that
not
that
big
of
a
deal
for
for
the
engineering
or
personally
so.
I
A
B
C
About
every
six
hundred
feet-
and
you
put
them
on
if
you
start
a
road,
you
need
to
put
them
on
the
entire
thing.
So
that
could
be
maybe
four
down
this
road.
How
personally
like
speedups
a
lot
of
people?
Don't
those
are
the
use
of
the
people
that
want
to
get
in
and
out
late
for
work?
But
you
know
that's,
that's.
It
does
slow
people
down
cars.
H
C
C
A
A
C
We
are
like
you
that
was
mentioned
in
the
preemie
and
I
did
keep
referencing
that,
because
not
everybody
was
may
not
have
seen
that
we
are
going
to
an
18
foot,
wide
driveway,
hoping
to
get
that.
So
we
can
get
cars.
Two
cars
parked
in
the
driveway.
You
know
there
will
be
a
garage
on
every
house,
a
lot
of
people
don't
camp
our
garage
on
one
of
them
too
much
stuff
it.
But
that's
what
is
for
the
you
know,
we're.
C
C
A
C
D
You
guys
seem
to
get
this
past
and
you
start
construction.
How
are
you
gonna
deal
with
the
heavy
construction
traffic
trucks?
I
mean
you
got
a
log.
You
got
a
lot
of
trees.
You
got
to
carry
out
of
there.
You
got
concrete
trucks
coming
in
and
out
of
there,
how
are
you
gonna
handle
the
wear
and
tear
on
the
existing
Drive
coming
in
just
you
know,
you
can
build
your
facility.
D
D
A
J
A
A
C
C
I
I
D
F
F
I
C
I
K
C
C
B
H
I
We
didn't
develop
originally
tempered
now
so
they're,
not
the
same,
so
we're
very
familiar
with
using
the
covenants
that
we
have
that
we
think
are
very
good,
help
protect
property
values
very
well
and
some
point.
Of
course,
when
we
were
done
and
three
and
a
half
years,
they
reversed
back
to
the
ancient
way.
Hoh
could
combine
at
that
point.
In
fact,
when
I
talked
to
the
HOA
president,
we
used
kim
bragging
associates
right
now
to
administer
our
covenants
and-
and
I
think
there
was
some
interest
in
us
using
the
same
service
provider.
There.
A
B
Here
shortly
as
you
start
to
deliberate,
but
these
comments
are
again
from
Ray
Cole
asking
about
why
why
they're
planning
multifamily
for
the
second
phase,
when
the
first
phase
only
has
single
family
and
from
Candace
Kimbrel?
That
just
noted
that
I
guess
she
had
some
into
the
previous
comments.
That
again
reiterate
looking
at
the
three-way
stop
because
of
the
three-way
intersection.
So
again,
just
kind
of
reiterating
that
yeah.
A
A
Obviously
you
can't
make
people
follow,
speed,
speeding
or
anything
else,
so
so
I
would
be
in
favor
of
the
city
taking
requiring
that
if
we
could
and
the
speed
bumps
too
and
but
other
than
that,
if
we
don't
have
any
other
comments,
I
guess,
then
we
will
just
cut
off.
We
will
give
them.
What
do
you
want
to
give
them
another
30
seconds?
Anybody
who's
got
hands,
got
any
further
comments
pro
or
con.
K
K
E
E
Right,
the
only
concern
that
I
would
have
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
comments
that
Public
Safety
would
have.
We
got
any
emergency
operators
apparatus
turnaround.
That's
my
biggest
concern
in
my
mind
about
this
I
hear
all
the
other
concerns
I'm
gonna,
calling
with
that,
but
getting
the
emergency
vehicle
in
and
out,
and
then
cars
on
the
side
of
the
street
that
just
it
just
raised
a
big
concern.
In
my
mind,.
B
B
Difficult
through
this
format,
because
we
wouldn't
typically
allow
people
to
come
in
two
or
three
times
to
make
comment
about
and
forth.
So
this
is
a
little
bit
new
for
us.
Well,
this
is
again
from
mr.
Tilly's
asking
about
the
HOA
whether
they
can
guarantee
that
that
will
be
the
setup
for
the
HOA
and.
B
Here
we
have
another
request
from
this
is
from
mr.
Mill's
to
address
the
time
frame
for
when
I
guess,
construction
may
start
and
when
it
would,
we
already
addressed
that
it
hoping
to
kind
of
substantially
complete
construction
in
the
three
to
five
year
time
frame
and
then
asking
about
some
another
one
asking
about
whether
there
would
be
sidewalks
they're
coming
in
in
droves.
Now.
B
A
I
Okay,
thanks
we're
doing
that.
We're
seeing
that
in
our
consultants
that
we
use,
we
use
a
group
out
of
Atlanta
coal
market
inside.
They
are
saying,
there's
a
lot
of
demand
for
townhomes
and
for
living
in
townhomes.
There's
a
lot
of
folks
who
don't
want
to
maintain
any
any
any
yard
whatsoever
and
well
we've
typically
done
with
townhomes,
is
when
we
develop
that
we
get
a
as
part
of
their
covered
in
our
HOA
dues.
They
have
landscaping
included,
so
we
would
be
maintaining
those
townhome
units.
I
H
I
A
I
Well,
it's
gonna
be
more
expensive
than
what
the
homes
we
just
got
through
a
building
and
kept
her
down.
Those
prices
are
going
up,
I
mean
materials,
go
up,
labor
goes
up,
so
it's
going
to
be
more
expensive
homes
and
what
we
typically
see
with
townhomes
are
those
are
more
expensive
per
square
foot
than
the
detached
homes.
So
the.
A
E
E
A
A
Okay,
well,
I
just
would
like
to
get
that
out
there,
because
I
mean
you
know,
people
who
are
worried
about
them.
You
know
if
somebody's
gonna
come
in
and
spend
two
hundred
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
on
on
a
piece
of
property
that
ought
to
make
you
feel
a
little
better
about
about
them,
but
maybe
not
but
or
what
it's
worth.
K
K
So
you
know
we
mentioned
before
about
how
there's
a
concern
of
the
streets
being
filled
with
cars,
and
if
people
are
now
going
to
have
to
be
walking
on
the
streets
to
get
to
the
walking
trail
walking
on
the
streets
to
get
to
the
dog
park,
because
there
are
no
sidewalks,
you
know.
Why
did
you
make
that
choice.
I
That's
a
good
question:
we
can
contribute
in
the
new
section.
We
can
design
the
covenants
and
the
rules
there
to
require
parking
on
one
side
of
the
street
now,
unless
you've
got
a
policeman
out
of
here,
directing
people
sometime
that's
hard
to
enforce,
but
we
can
at
least
attempt
to
do
that.
Sidewalk.
So
then
just
started
a
new
section
kind
of
seemed
strange,
just
to
start
a
new
section
with
my
side
walks
and
it
adds
more
impervious
surface.
So
it
can
create
some
drainage
issues.
I
I
A
J
That
would
annex
would
go
from
a
residential
district
Rd
to
proposed
zoning,
which
would
be
planned
residential
PR
and
also
for
the
concept
plan.
Application,
2,
0,
2,
2,
0,
0,
5
tax
parcel
0,
8,
9,
1,
4,
0,
1,
1,
0,
0,
1
I
would
make
the
motion
that
we
submitted
to
the
City
Council
for
approval
with
the
conditions.
As
stated,
the
13
conditions
that
are
are
listed.
A
J
A
K
A
J
A
A
A
D
B
Would
have
to
see
how
far
it
deviated
from
the
plan.
That
was
the
concept
plan
that
was
approved,
so
it
allows
them
to
require
some
minor
changes.
This
is
specifically
regarding
apparatus
turnaround,
so
they
can
they
can
that
allows
them
to
review
whether
they're,
okay,
with
just
being
able
to
circle
that
we're
in
that
rear
side
circle,
as
opposed
to
you,
know,
creating
a
new
coldest
act
somewhere
within
there.
Also,
it
allows
them
to
look
at
the
B
on
street
parking
at
the
same
time
if
they
wanted
to
do
that.
Okay,.
A
A
B
G
A
B
C
C
G
C
Uppers
places
25-foot
buffer
adjacent
to
two
Woodside,
was
over
25
and
leave
as
much
natural
area
as
we
can
on
the
perimeter.
The
project
to
help
buffer,
particularly
the
Woodside
development,
from
us,
similar
sort
of
arguments
over
speeding
in
neighborhoods
and
out
of
new
traffic.
Again
we
are,
while
we
are
18
units,
would
provide,
produces
significant
amount
of
traffic
by
numbers.
C
C
C
We
have
public
utility
connections,
water
sewer
and
the
previously
the
stormwater
connection
had
been
made
to
a
storm
pipe
that
lies
in
between
two
Lots
in
Woodside.
I
will
have
to
go
back
and
research,
whether
or
not
those
easements
were
procured
and
are
still
in
place
or
whether
we
would
pursue
those.
But
that
would
be
our
stormwater
connection.
Point
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
recurrence
that
yeah.
G
C
F
A
The
well
felt
Ryan
doesn't
think
so,
but
I
I
kind
of
like
to
stick
it
in
there.
Just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
any
motion
we
make
would
be
contingent
upon
the
storm.
Water
I,
don't
think
it's
necessarily
necessary
because
it's
beyond
our
pay
grade
but
I
wouldn't
mind
putting
it
in
there.
Have
you
seen
mr.
green?
Have
you
seen
the
the
conditions
here
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
recommended
that
the
playing
director
is
recommending?
Yes,.
A
A
C
A
C
C
A
C
H
I
know
there
is
there's
one
email
that
I'm
reading
else.
It
talks
about
concerns
of
sidewalks
of
walking
dogs
to
speed.
Bumps
four-way
stops
very
similar
to
the
last
discussion
that
we've
had
what
consideration
or
discussion
have
you
guys
add
about
the
safety
of
pedestrians,
walking
their
dogs
with
the
new
bill
with
the
new
development
coming.
C
Our
control,
you
know
we're
going
to
add
our
sidewalks
and
we're
going
to
design
our
roads
and
have
them
at
the
park
into
a
to
create
a
safe
environment.
Again,
I,
don't
know
how
much
you
know.
We
need
to
go
into
other
neighborhoods
and
City
right
away
to
make
improvements.
I
know
Ryan
touched
on
the
fact
that
in
the
in
the
previous
approval
there
were
some
cost
cheering.
They.
A
C
A
J
B
Mr.
Chairman
I,
we
have
John
Poole
City
Engineer
on
here,
and
we
had
discussed
this
and
I
think
that
they
had
heard
several
comments
previously
from
the
neighborhood
recently
and
John
can
correct
me
I
think
there
was
a
variable
speed
pumps
that
were
installed
on
some
of
the
the
wells
and
treatment
facilities
around
there
to
be
able
to
kind
of
dial
in
those
pressures
and
for
some
time
they've
been
working
on,
ensuring
that
that's
sufficient
and
in
all
areas
I
think
it's
just
kind
of
taken
some
time
for
them
to
work.
L
Orion
we
we
have
recently
installed
some
water
pipes
out
there.
Some
of
the
we
I
believe
we
were
talking
about
the
low
pressure
as
some
of
the
service
lines.
Now
our
understanding
is,
there
may
be
some
pressure,
reducer
valves
that
were
installed
prior
to
the
project,
that
we
did.
That
still
may
be
reducing
that
pressure,
we're
also
looking
at
valve
operation
as
far
as
the
actual
mainline
system
to
see
if
any
of
those
ultra
close
but
yeah.
We
recently
did
a
very
good
capital
improvement
project
out.
L
B
C
A
All
right,
it's
just
just
as
a
matter
of
your
information
on
mr.
green
and
I
know.
You
realize
this
this
water
pressure
issue
if
they
think
can't
get
fixed
or
resolved.
That's
that's
gonna,
be
an
issue
in
selling
this
property.
So
I,
don't
there's
out
you
y'all
can
somehow
the
city
and
you
can
can
work
that
out
because
that
that's
she's
been
around
a
while
I.
Don't
I
don't
live
in
there,
so
I,
don't
know
how
bad
it
is,
but
I
know
I've
heard
about
it
for
a
while.
Now
it's
been
around.
K
B
Similar
to
I
guess
my
prior
answer
on
stormwater:
that's
something
that
so
and
John
stone.
You
can
correct
me,
but
they
they
will
as
part
of
the
fire
suppression
you
know
putting
in
fire
plugs
and
things
like
that.
They're
gonna
be
looking
at
whether
there's
sufficient
pressure
to
do
that
when
it
when
a
new
subdivision
comes
in.
So
it's
part
of
the
development
plan
that
they'll
look
at
what
what
they'll
study
the
water
system
around
there
as
part
of
it
and
their
connections
to
it.
But.
B
Anything
extra
you
don't
have
to
if
you
may,
if
you
feel
comfortable
based
on
the
comments
given
that
kind
of
let
people
know
that
you
are
aware
of
that,
and
that
we
are
working
to
address
those
as
part
of
a
development
plan.
Then
you
can
feel
free
to
do
that.
Sometimes
the
more
does
like
to
do
that,
just
to
reiterate
that
to
make
sure
it
gets
addressed
if.
G
C
This
information
coming
up
and
I
was
seeing
it
being
brought
up
at
this
point.
I
am
going
to
advise
my
client
that
he
needs
to
get
this
answer
before
he
moves
very
much
further
forward
at
all
with
the
development
and
spends
any
more
money,
because
if
this
is
something
that
will
stop
this
development,
he
needs
to
know
that
now
so
we
you
know,
it's.
B
C
A
G
J
B
B
Right
so
the
first
one
here
I
have
from
Peter
Messina.
He
is
on
board
directors
of
Woodside
POA,
which,
like
plantation
POA,
says
he's
a
licensed
professional
engineer
and
planner
and
very
concerned
about
the
stormwater
impacts
is
in
charge
of
road.
Maintenance
of
Woodside
has
been
heading
up
that
review
committee,
which
includes
a
city
manager,
professional
staff
concerning
severe
erosion
problems
in
the
ravine,
which
is
where
this
is
a
15
15
to
18
foot
ravine
directly
downstream
from
the
proposed
development
I'm,
where
there'll
be
stormwater,
runoff
related
to
the
80
new
units.
B
The
proposed
development,
sir
water
is
proposed,
enter
into
the
storm
inland
between
two
residential
occupied
Lots
on
sweet
Bay,
and
they
would
need
permission
to
cross
the
25-foot
buffer.
We
discussed
that
in
the
in
the
prior,
the
the
pre
meeting
or
the
work
session.
I
don't
think
they
have.
The
right
car
belongs
to
across
the
POA
and
privately
owned
property,
and
we
do
not
know
if
the
proposed
stormwater
will
exceed
the
capacity
of
the
city's
internal
storm.
Pipe
system
blowing
through
Woodside
in
any
additional
upstream
impervious
surface
will
definitely
impact
our
development.
B
B
She
anticipates
would
go
down
as
part
of
these
duplexes
being
in
her
visible
from
her
backyard.
We
have
a
comment
here
from
Brenda
Conway
and
they
does
beg
you
to
reject
the
proposed
development
of
the
Lamplighter
villages
unless
there
is
another
avenue
to
access
them
other
than
hidden
Haven
Drive.
They
pay
for
asked
for
forgiveness
for
lateness
of
the
submission
they.
They
were
one
of
the
signatories
to
the
comments
from
the
Melrose
3
HOA,
but
also
wanted
to
get
their
individual
thoughts.
I
says:
Mir
Osman
lives
just
across
silver
bluff
from
hidden.
B
Even
so
already
has
some
idea
of
how
narrow,
eventually
dangerous
the
small
street
is
and
by
anybody
interested
to
drive
past
Reliford,
Sonoma,
Merlot
and
trace
with
those
of
those
first
Lots.
As
you
come
into
the
first
Street
as
you
come
into
the
hidden
Haven
neighborhood,
where
the
Melrose
the
townhomes,
and
they
are
concerned
about
the
imminent
opening
of
the
woods
fom
Farm
Market,
they
said
they
just
yesterday
said
he
had
a
replaces.
A
stop
sign
in
the
area
and
the
bank
of
mailboxes
were
also
hit
recently,
either
way
it's
becoming.
B
She
feels
it's
becoming
a
more
dangerous
trip
because
of
speeders
and
elderly
drivers
should
only
be
built
if
ingress
or
egress
is
not
on
hidden
Haven.
Woodside
plantation
is
adjacent
and
provides
a
perfect
option.
None
of
the
streets
and
Woodside.
Have
you
the
congestion
or
speeding
problems
at
Hidden
Haven?
Does
the
pattern
our
streets
per
se
is
speeding
through
the
community.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention.
B
It
will
also
impact
our
safety
as
we
drive
and
walk
around
our
neighborhood
as
a
large,
yellow
shaded.
We
have
various
feeding
issues
which
compounds
with
the
number
of
vehicles
on
our
short
narrow
streets,
and
then
we
had
some
come
in
in
the
meantime,
this
is
from
will
cozy.
Dear
sir
man
would
like
to
offer
perspective
it's
the
matter
of
the
city
as
and
the
city
offices,
the
money
bag.
The
proposed
development
listed
by
the
extension
of
flesh
I
will
cost
the
city
money.
Why?
B
They
that
appear
to
provide
tax
dollars
for
the
first
year,
but
with
depression
and
degradation
of
the
area
for
the
first
figure,
the
effect
on
surrounding
property
values,
including
those
in
Woodside
and
resale.
Those
properties
will
not
recover
from
the
lasting
effects
or
number
examples
are
as
occurred
in
other
communities
or
other
communities
here
in
Aiken,
as
well
as
other
cities.
I
urge
you
to
deny
that
klaris
Drive
extension
for
the
negative
effects
on
the
neighborhood.
Let's
see
here,
I
have.
B
B
Well,
why
do
we
need
additional
town
homes
bill
here
when
there
are
numerous
other
properties
already
like
Kimber
towns
proposed
new
multi-family,
as
part
of
them
are
proposed
new
new
multi-family
as
part
of
the
mall
development
and
there's
the
and
they're
asking?
What
is
the
price
point
for
the
townhomes?
How
does
it
affect
the
Woodside
community
that
it
joins
the
existing
development.
B
A
C
H
J
J
It
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
concern
with
the
entry
and
also
the
border
with
Woodside,
not
to
mention
all
the
agreements
that
need
to
be
worked
out
with
Woodside
on
the
stormwater
issue
and
then
there's
the
water
pressure
issue
with
the
city.
Just
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
things
outside
your
to
subdivision
that
that
need
to
be
resolved.
J
G
C
C
A
Mean
I,
don't
think,
I
think
that
the
stormwater
issue
that's
an
issue,
that's
kind
of
beyond
us.
We
can
put,
we
can
make.
We
can
make
a
request
and
eakin
tinning
upon
stormwater.
We
can
put
it
in
there,
but
even
if
we
don't
put
it
in
there,
they're
gonna
have
to
meet
the
stormwater
requirements
and
those
requirements
are
tough.
They
are
tough
so
that
that
may
be
an
issue.
I,
don't
know,
I
don't
know,
but
we
can
put
it
in.
A
A
B
We
have
additional
comments
here
is
from
Linda
Rodriguez.
That
doesn't
feel
that
we
have
enough
information
to
be
able
to
vote
on
this
this
evening.
Asking
about
the
price
points.
If
there
is
an
estimated
price
point
and
square
footage,
I,
don't
think
this
went
into
our
staff
report,
but
I
think
we
estimated
them
to
be
the
in
mr.
green
can
at
least
join
out
on
the
plan.
B
B
There
they're
reiterating
that
they
believe
that
speed
humps
are
needed
in
hidden,
Haven
and
they're,
asking
if
this,
if
the
city
will
do
anything
regarding
high
sidewalks
for
the
hidden
Haven
portion
of
the
development,
and
believes
that
the
the
Planning
Commission
should
table
the
item
until
we
we
have
a
plan
for
that.
I
have
another.
B
This
is
from,
and
the
this
is
kind
of
I
guess
we
haven't.
We
don't
typically
deal
with
this
either.
This
is
from
somebody
who
I
don't
now
have
a
name
for,
but
Francis
that
they
were
saying
yes
curve
on
hidden
Haven
Drive
doesn't
safely
allow
for
passage
of
a
school
bus.
How
will
heavy
construction
vehicles
make
it
through
the
s
turn
B?
B
Again,
they
would
be
in
favor
of
there
being
a
solid
wood
fence
on
the
where
the
property
borders
Woodside
I'm,
assuming
we'd,
probably
if
that
were
to
be
a
consideration,
you'd
want
to
determine
whether
that's
within
the
buffer
before
you
get
to
the
buffer.
That
sort
of
thing,
if
that
were
to
be
required,
and
then
finally
they're
asking
whether
the
prior
ordinance
that
was
in
2005
still
applicable,
it
is
not
and
just
to
clarify.
B
Why
is
not
is
that,
if
that
ordinance
that
was
developed,
if
it
was
that
essentially
the
development
authority
from
that
ordinance
lasted
for
five
years,
since
no
building
permits
were
pulled
and
have-nots
did
not
initiate
within
that
five-year
period,
then
there,
within
our
ordinance,
that
is,
is
is
up
for
reconsideration.
So
that's
what
you're
doing
now
is
reconsidering
the
concept
plan
for
this
planned
residential
zone
property.
B
B
Those
still
existed,
but
they
were
single-family
homes
at
that
point
as
well,
but
the
concept
and
was
approved
with
several
conditions
about
again
cost-sharing
for
additional
sidewalk
improvements,
but
it
had
a
number
of
off-site
improvements
that
had
have
been
required:
straightening
out
the
s-curve,
adding
some
overlay
and
reconstructing
some
roads,
sidewalk
systems
I
think
the
fence
on
Woodside
was
in
there
as
well.
So
there
were
a
number
of
conditions
placed
on
that,
but
there
also
was
a
number
of
cost-sharing
items
with
that
as
well.
Okay,.
A
B
J
Carl
can
answer
this,
but
wood
set
has
a
limit
six
foot
fence
around
the
total
subdivision.
It's
my
understanding!
So
I
don't
know
the
answer.
This
question,
I,
don't
know
if
that
if
the
fence
is
outside
the
25
buffer,
25-foot
buffer
around
Woodside
or
if
it's
on
the
inside
of
the
25-foot
buffer
and
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
knows
the
answer
to
that.
I.
A
C
A
A
B
B
Don't
know
that
for
certain
we
would
definitely
confirm
that
as
part
of
all
this,
but
the
typically
you
would
want
it
against
the
property
just
so
that,
well,
what
you're
kind
of
trying
to
prevent
is
property
owners
from
then
going
in
there
after
and
then
clearing
out
the
buffer,
adding
it
to
their
yard,
and
then
it
kind
of
just
negates
the
the
purpose
of
the
buffer.
So,
typically,
we
were
trying
to
require
the
fence
on
the
property
side
of
a
buffer.
If
there
is.
C
B
B
So
I
just
had
one
more
comment
and
our
one
minute
period
is
lapsed,
but
they
said
I
guess
I'll
kind
of
clean
this
up
the
junk
fence
on
the
outside
of
the
buffer
backs
up
to
so
it's
on
the
outside
of
the
buffer
and
backs
up
to
some
existing
property.
So
they
they're
saying
that
the
they're
confirming
that
the
buffer
that
the
fence,
the
existing
fences
on
the
outside
of
the
buffer
right.
A
A
B
B
Oh
sorry,
they
asked
we
did
receive
a
couple
comment
rate.
The
proposed
conditions
of
approval,
so
I'll
do
that
the
proposed
conditions
were
that
a
site
and
landscape
plan
comply
with
the
landscape
and
tree
preservation
requirement
that
the
signage
comply
with
requirements
of
the
zoning
ordinance
that
a
bump
out
or
half
called
a
cul-de-sac
or
similar
measure
replaced
at
the
beginning
of
the
new
development
designated
in
conjunction
with
the
required
entrance
median
and
sufficient
to
accommodate
a
fire
apparatus
turn.
D
B
That
landscape
media
name
cul-de-sac
medians
be
included
in
the
design,
so
that's
kind
of
reiterative
there
that
additional
open
space
should
be
provided
in
the
detention.
If,
if
the
detention
pond
cannot
be
planted,
causing
the
open
space
to
go
below
20
percent
again,
that's
just
essentially
reiterating
the
20
percent
requirement
and
that
the
applicants
sign
an
agreement
saying
the
conditions
of
approval
within
180
days.
A
A
F
Mr.
chairman,
in
regards
to
the
concept
plan,
approval
for
tax
parcel
number
one:
zero
7,
0
7
1
6
0,
0
1,
as
I
explained,
the
residential
I
recommend
that
we
moved
the
City
Council
with
the
possible
conditions.
As
stated
one
through
six
with
the
additional
comments
are
conditions
being
added
number
seven
being
the
easement
for
the
stormwater
issue
being
addressed
and
completed
number
eight
that
the
water
pressure
is
looked
into
and
resolved
if
needed.
F
E
H
A
A
A
A
A
A
J
B
As
part
of
the
development
plan
that
there
shall
be
that
sorry,
let
me
try
this
again
as
part
of
the
development
plan
that
that
city
of
Aitkin
stormwater
management
regulations
be
satisfied
by
the
under-under
approval
of
the
city.
Engineer
that
the
city
and
again
under
direction
of
the
city
engineer
that
water
pressure
be
deemed
sufficient
for
the
new
development
and
not
to
the
detriment
of
the
adjacent
neighbors
that
the
city
review.