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B
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C
A
D
A
D
A
Public
hearings
tonight
that
we're
going
to
try
to
do
one
regarding
the
Waterloo,
Street
right-of-way,
between
Richland,
Avenue
and
Haines,
and
one
regarding
what
we
would
call
what
I'm
going
to
call
for
simplicity
purposes.
The
east
aiken
be
staking
discussion
of
of
that
property
out
there
bound
generally
by
Union,
Street
Park,
Avenue,
Buford,
Street
and
Barnwell
Avenue.
A
Regarding
the
Waterloo
right-of-way
discussion
public
input
session,
how
many
people
would
like
to
speak
to
that
are
here
to
speak
to
the
Waterloo
issue?
Please
raise
your
hand
if
you
could
three
three
four,
all
right,
that's
good!
We
will
call
you
one
by
one.
We
would
like
you
to
hold
your
comments,
if
possible,
to
two
to
three
minutes
and
state
your
position,
and
if
you
have
any,
if
the
Commission
has
any
questions,
they
will
ask
you
at
the
close
of
your
comments.
A
Okay
and
we'll
do
the
same
thing.
How
many
people
want
to
speak
to
the
east?
Taken
these
safety
issues,
raise
your
hands,
please,
okay,
to
two
or
three
to
that?
Okay,
so
same
same
thing,
we'll
do
the
Waterloo
right
away.
First,
okay,
first
speaker,
somebody
who
wants
to
speak
regarding
Rondo
come
on
up
states
would
ask
you
to
state
your
name
and
your
address.
E
Canoeing
I'm
Rachel,
Don,
Tremont
I
live
at
1111,
Haines
Avenue.
The
question
you
just
asked
how
many
people
wanted
to
speak
doesn't
reflect
how
many
people
are
here
interested
in
the
topic.
I
will
agree
with
anybody
who
goes
down
Waterloo
Street
that
it
is
ugly,
it
is,
looks
abandoned.
It's
not
good
for
the
neighborhood,
but
I
hope
that
you
will
consider
that
there
are
other
options
other
than
making
it
more
commercial.
We
already
live
in
a
mixed-use
area,
I've
been
there
since
1980
we've
fought
this
battle
over
and
over
since
1980.
E
We
keep
coming
back
and
we
think
it's
solved,
and
then
it
comes
back
again.
I
would
like
you
to
consider
if
Waterloo
Street
was
just
destroyed
right
now
we
got
rid
of
all
of
the
1950s
60s
commercial
buildings
and
went
in
there
and
put
residential
or
multifamily
that
we
could
really
perk
up
that
neighborhood.
If
you
go
down
Dibble
Road
there
used
to
be
vacant,
lots
on
Dibble
Road.
There
are
none
anymore.
People
are
actually
taking
houses
down
and
putting
up
new
houses
so
that
they
can
have
a
close
proximity
to
downtown.
E
We
call
it
an
Avenue
houses.
Have
been
either
removed
or
vacant
lots
have
been
developed
so
that
people
can
be
closer
to
downtown
Payne
Avenue
we've
had
people
gut
houses
or
totally
rebuild
to
the
insides
of
them.
I
guess
that's
redundant,
but
they're
people
that
want
to
live
downtown.
They
want
to
be
close
to
downtown.
Why
dilute
our
functioning
downtown
business
district
by
spreading
it
out
blocks
away?
I
think
we
need
to
keep
the
business
districts
concentrated.
E
F
What
I
would
like
for
you
to
consider
is
the
fact
that,
prior
to
these
property
owners
wanting
this
property
rezoned
to
commercial,
it
was
not
zoned
and
it's
commercial
when
they
bought
some
of
those
properties.
It
was
owned
as
limited
business,
which
means
that
they
can
operate
from
8:30
to
5:00
o'clock,
not
past
that,
but
also
like
for
you
to
consider
the
fact
that,
where
the
medical
RFS
building
is
now
in
the
drug,
the
former
drug
store
on
the
corner
of
Haines
and
Waterloo
before
those
buildings
were
built,
there
were
apartments
there.
Mr.
F
A
You
just
one
I
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
right
now.
The
property
is
by
and
large
there's
a
couple
of
general
business,
GP
general
business
on
the
corner
up
there,
the
majority
of
the
Lots
there
are
what
they
call
LP
limited
professional
right,
there's
no
restriction.
Now,
if
somebody
could
buy
one
of
those
Lots
and
build
a
house
on
it
now
do
you
you
look
you
clear
with
that
game.
The.
A
Little
limited
professional
but
I'm
saying
there
was
some
comment
earlier
about:
building
or
building
a
house
there
there's
nothing
preventing
people
from
doing
that
now
under
LP,
you
can
buy
that
lot,
tear
down
that
building
and
build
a
house
or
use
that
building
to
build
a
house
you
with
me
under
limited
profession,
under
LP
right
and
if
and
under
any
proposal.
We
would
I
think
that
we
would
make
I
can't
speak
for
the
whole
Commission
or
the
City
Council,
but
that
would
always
be
an
option.
F
F
G
A
But
we
also,
but
just
you
know,
we
were
referred-
that
the
the
Planning
Commission
was
referred.
This
issue
to
consider
from
the
City
Council.
The
cause
of
the
area
there
is
is
not
really
selling
and
we
don't
you
know
it
doesn't
help
anybody.
It
doesn't
believe
anybody
to
have
an
area
which
is
it's
not
selling
and
just
sitting
there
and
and
nobody's
spending
a
lot
of
money
nobody's
renovating
it.
If
somebody
wanted
to
build
a
house
on
it
now,
there's
no
proof
there's
nothing
preventing
them
from
doing
it.
I.
H
F
I,
don't
know,
but
it
needs
to
go
back
to
residential.
It
is
a
residential
area
all
around
it.
The
reason
that
it
got
to
limited
professional
to
begin
with
was
because
of
the
hospital
down
at
the
other
end,
correct,
correct
and
the
hospital
is
no
longer
there
you're
saying
that
it
should
go
back
to
residential,
rather
than
just.
A
I
F
A
A
LP
and
that's
what
we'd
like
for
it,
just
including
houses
which,
but
it
hasn't
sold.
Is
that
that's
that's
the
issue
that
we're
that's
the
whole
point
here.
You
know
nobody
wants
to
disrupt
an
area.
It's
at
least
of
all
me
I've,
been
here
a
long
time
too,
and
but
when
you,
when
you
have
an
area,
that's
just
going
down
down
down
you,
you
know
people
start
wondering
you
know.
Well,
what
are
we
gonna
do?
Are
we
gonna
change?
Do
we
need
to
change
it?
That's
all.
That's
all
appreciate
your
comments.
J
J
K
K
The
I
think
the
original
purpose
of
the
development
of
Waterloo
Street
and
everything
else
around
it.
This
limited
professional
was
created,
obviously
because
the
hospital
was
there
and
you
had
medical
community
that
utilize
that
space
that
has
come
and
gone,
and
so
what's
happened
is
you've
got
a
stagnant
area.
That's
its
commercial!
Those
people
that
owned
that
property
had
paid
a
reasonable
commercial
value
for
that
property
and
it's
difficult
for
them
to
turn
around
and
sell
it
as
a
residential
which
which
has
a
lower
value
than
the
commercial.
K
So
then,
you've
got
a
limited
number
of
uses
that
you
can
have
on
that
property
being
that
it's
mostly
professional
by
expanding
it
to
something
as
elbe.
Anything
that
allows
something
besides
professional
use
is
going
to.
You
know,
widen
the
ability
to
bring
in
some
other
uses
in
there,
whether
it's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
retail.
What
I
envision
for
that!
L
K
Of
some
residential
then
there
as
well
so
I
think
in
order
to
attract
some
future
uses
that
are
beyond
what's
being
used
now,
you've
got
to
change
the
zoning
into
something
that's
going
to
expand
those
opportunities
and
I
think.
Ultimately,
in
the
long
run,
it's
going
to
come
back
and
benefit
the
residential
neighborhood
and
and
actually
enhance
it,
because
it
becomes
more
walkable.
You
can
ride
your
bike
and
you
can
walk
there
pick
it
up
now.
K
It's
certainly
limiting
some
of
the
uses
of
the
sizes
of
those
businesses
would
be
prudent,
but
those
are
things
the
details
would
have
to
be
worked
out,
but
I
think.
Ultimately,
if
you
want
to
see
an
area
that
was
designed
to
be
commercial,
become
vibrant,
again,
I
think
you've
got
to
essentially
rewrite
the
rules
as
far
as
what
can
go
there
and
and
expand
the
opportunities
I
appreciate.
A
G
My
big
question
is
what,
if
y'all
change
this
to
limited
business,
I
know,
there's
a
certain
thing
that
you
used
to
control
what
goes
in
there
the
way
I
live.
It's
a
limited
professional
historian,
but
across
the
street
from
my
house
it
was
a
common
center.
It's
smooth
with
the
Commerce
Center,
and
if
you
go
down
doing
that
day,
when
it
was
there
and
trying
to
build,
it
was
down
there.
Two
cars
are
parked
everywhere
in
the
Parkway
on
the
side
of
the
Parkway.
G
They
don't
care,
they
come
in
their
trashes,
all
over
the
Parkway.
They
throw
that
out
and
and
then
it
comes
to
had
a
big
old
sign
made
and
put
outside
nobody
controls
that
until
she
turned
it
on
and
the
neighbors
went
crazy
because
the
big
old
neon
sign
that
lit
up
the
whole
neighborhood,
we
had
it
turned
off,
but
it's
still
sitting
there.
G
G
A
You
know
I
I,
don't
think
anybody
that
I'm,
aware
of
and
I
don't
think
anybody
on
City
Council
either
wants
to
turn
this
air
get
into
what
they
call
GB
or
general
business.
Nobody
has
talked
about
that.
The
discussion
has
all
been
expanding,
a
little
bit
from
LP,
which
is
limited
professional,
because
there's
just
not
that
many
professional
surround
since
the
hospital
is
and
all
that
theory
is
gone
yeah
so
to
what
they
call
lb
or
limited
business,
which
is
very
similar
to
limited
professional.
In
some
ways,
it's
a
little
more
restrictive
in
some
ways.
A
It's
a
little
less
restrictive
I
mean
I.
It's
it's
a
just
too
rich.
Just
for
your
information
that
the
there's
definition
for
it.
It's
a
limited
range
of
retail
and
service
activities
of
a
pedestrian
oriented
nature
with
residential
uses.
Also
its
you,
you
restrict
the
floor
area.
You
restrict
the
design.
I
Conceivably,
it
could
be
that
someone
comes
in
and
build
some
condominiums
there,
but
they
would
like
to
leave
the
ground
floor
open
to
maybe
have
a
coffee
shop
or
a
gift
shop
or
a
dog
grooming
place,
but
that
it's
all
walkable
so
that
you
have
a
mix
of
residential.
But
you
also
have
some
limited
businesses
underneath
and
I
think
that
was
the
vision
for
it.
Yeah.
M
I
G
G
Know
I
just
wanna
know:
I.
Might
a
question
is
if
it's
goes,
the
limited
business?
That's
fine,
but
who's
gonna
control,
the
traffic
in
there.
Well,
like
I,
said:
oh
my
block
alone.
People
parked
everywhere
with
no
parking
signs
up
and
down
they
parked
in
the
parkway
and
the
police
officer,
walk
ride,
band
or
you
they
don't
do
anything
about
it.
They
just
keep
riding
they
put
signs
out
on
the
part
where
it
says
two
wheels
on
the
road.
G
I
If
you
I
think
if
it
were
developed
in
that
way
that
it's
a
community
area
with
you
know,
walkable
I
think
you
would
find
it
in
line
with
some
of
those
small
places
like
Baxter
village
up
near
Charlotte,
which
is
an
entirely
walkable
and
closed
community
with
condominiums
in
small
town
homes
and
a
business
corner.
Business
is
what
they
call
them
more
like
corner
businesses
and
the
parking
is
limited
to
in
front
of
those
businesses.
M
G
N
Three
parcels
have
sold
already
under
LP,
so
if
it
weren't
for
the
hospital
making
the
changes,
I,
don't
think
any
of
this
would
be
going
on
quite
frankly,
and
we
have
not
been
told
what
is
going
to
go
what's
going
on
with
the
hospital,
what
type
of
thing
it's
going
to
be
so
I,
like
I,
said
before
it's
premature
to
be
messing
with
our
neighborhoods.
When
we
don't
even
know
what's
gonna
go
in
the
hospital
we.
N
Don't
think
anybody
would
be
buying
up
this
property
or
talking
about
this
if
it
weren't
for
what
the
investors
think
is
going
to
happen
with
the
hospital.
So
you
know
that's
one
point
that
I
have
and
the
fact
that
three
parcels
have
sold
so
they
are
selling.
That
might
be
the
reason,
but
they're
still
selling
I.
N
See
concerns
that
we
have
are
well
you're,
saying
that
we
would
protect
what
goes
in
there
or
we
can
change
things
around
well.
In
my
reading
we
can
allow
Kwik
shop
a
bank
with
no
drive-through
furniture
store.
You
know
we
already
have
like
I
mentioned
before.
If
we
already
have
two
quick
shops,
possibly
free
when
the
gas
station
is
done,
some
people
said
no
one
to
mention
it,
but
it's
still
as
far
as
trust
goes
with
the
Planning
Commission.
N
N
N
N
N
A
N
I
am
concerned
if
we
can't
handle
that,
how
are
we
gonna
handle
not
having
a
quick
shop
on
Waterloo
or
something
like
that?
How
rules
do
you
have
that
pertain
to
that
that
you
can
control?
You
know
it's
fine
to
say.
Oh
one
thing,
we're
gonna
go
eliminate
business
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
we
have
all
this
crap
behind
our
house
and
also
the
fact
that
you
know
that
is
my
castle.
What
let
it
be
whatever
it
is,
that
is
my
castle,
and
it's
not
your
it's
not
behind
your
house.
N
N
H
H
N
A
H
Wait:
ten
ten,
eighth
Avenue
now
Lane
already
brought
up.
One
of
my
points
was
that
properties
have
just
sold
under
LP
recently,
so
there
must
be
some
viability
for
that
to
go
on
I'm
sure
there
was
no
wink
and
a
nod
that
we're
gonna
get
their
zoning
change
on
that.
The
other
is
if
we
have
property
owners
own
Waterloo
I'd
like
to
hear
from
them
to
get
some
feedback
from
them.
Don't
go
on
the
zoning
change.
If
we
have
anybody
here,
instead
of
just
coming
something
for
City
Council
to
you
guys.
A
O
Don't
owl
I,
don't
fully
understand
the
procedures
that
the
Commission
uses,
but
the
of
the
two
options
that
the
staff
had
at
the
back
of
the
packet
I
would
prefer
consideration.
Fee
is
in
Bravo
and
as
I
understand
the
way
this
is
written
there
would
be
future
opportunities.
If
there's
a
recommendation
that
comes
out
of
this
Commission
that
there
would
be
future
procedure
or
meeting
where
voice
or
views
of
the
public
would
be
able
to
be
heard
here.
O
A
We
we're
not
going
to
vote
tonight
on
any
we're
gonna
vote
on
a
direction
forward,
we're
not
going
to
change
and
make
any
recommendations
regarding
changes
to
zoning,
or
anything
like
that
tonight.
We're
just
gonna
make
a
statement
as
to
a
path
forward,
so
to
speak.
Yes,
we're
an
advisory
body.
This
is
an
advisory
body,
Planning
Commission,
the
City
Council.
Any
recommendation
we
make
would
go
forward
to
the
City
Council
and
the
City
Council
would
then
have
the
final
say
on
any.
O
Proposal
I
understood
so
I,
like
the
the
recommendation
or
consideration
be
and
I
also
like
the
obviously
there
have
been
persons
that
exhibited
concern
about
the
types
of
proposals
that
may
come
forward
in
the
future,
that,
in
terms
of
the
compatibility
of
those
uses
and
they're
talking
about
a
text,
amendment
here,
I'm,
obviously
as
a
somebody
who
lives
in
the
neighborhood
and
want
to
see
redevelopment
but
want
to
have
a
say
in
that
in
the
future
as
well.
But
but
like
what
I
see
here.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
share
my
views.
Okay,.
L
Everyone
pretty
much
loves
that
area,
downtown
and
hadn't
been
real
active,
but
by
activating
that
people
are
really
seeing
potential
so
I'm
all
for
it
going
from
DB
from
dB,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
not
a
better
zoning
possibility.
That
could
be
because
we've
got
quarters
on
Park
and
Richland
and
then
the
side
street
for
the
intersecting
streets,
which
are
probably
60%
residential,
some
churches.
A
few
businesses
mixed
in,
but
not
many,
but
as
we're
sitting
there
in
the
afternoon
obvious
sitting
next
to
an
antique
store
owner
and
we'll
look
everyone
guys.
L
L
Changing
to
DB
zone
would
be
good,
but
I
also
would
like
to
see
us
look
and
see
our
parking
regulations
appropriate
down
there.
Could
we
do
something
more
sustainable
and
not
have
paved
parking
and
bumpers
and
those
kind
of
things,
because
most
of
the
lights
are
like
1/3
of
an
acre
and
if
you're
putting
businesses
in
there?
A
I
sympathize
with
you
as
to
the
as
to
the
time
and
the
complexity
of
it,
because
it
isn't
it's
not
simple,
it
really
is
not
it's
complicated.
There's
a
lot
of
factors,
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
I,
don't
know
if
they
can
be
sped
speeded
up
or
not.
I.
Just
don't
know
it's
a
lot.
There's
a
lot
of
stuff.
You
got
a
public
yeah
I
have
public
notices
and
that
kind
of
thing.
L
A
A
L
A
P
I'm
Jane
daughters,
I
live
at
7:07,
Avenue
and
I'm
real
interested
in
downtown
and
downtown
residential
and
downtown
business.
One
thing
I've
learned
today
is
that
there
is
nothing
there
is
no
building
I
believe
it
currently
exists.
It's
zoned
limited
business.
There
are
some
lots
that
exists
that
are
zone
limited
business.
They
don't
as
far
as
I
know
back
up
to
housing
to
people's
homes.
P
It
seems
to
me
that
before
this
is
recommended,
this
is
the
prime
time
to
look
at
the
uses
that
could
be
allowed
in
a
limited
business
to
see
if
they,
when
this
was
written.
What
ten
years
ago
or
eight
years
ago,
I,
don't
remember
exactly
whether
these
really
are
compatible
with
people
living
in
neighborhoods
who
have
been
living
there.
A
long
time
made
property
taxes
all
over
the
years
and
to
see
if
there's
a
way
to
look
at
this
zoning
which
doesn't
really
exist
in
it
at
all.
At.
C
You
have
to
ill
be
parcels
up
for
rezoning
this
evening.
That's
two
of
them
the!
When
is
the
website
sales
office
off
of
the
main
entrance
off
silver,
Bluff
I,
think
that
is
all
of
the
elbe,
zoned
property.
You
have
in
town,
currently
sorry
and
then
there's
one
more
I'm
trying
over
the
use.
Right
now,
it's
like
a
fraternal
use
on
Lawrence
Street
near
Hampton,
yeah.
A
P
That's
what
neighbors
are
worried
about,
plus
we
don't
know
what
the
proposals
are
we're
just
imagining,
because
we
haven't
been
privy
to
anybody's
suggestions
about
what
real
proposals
are
are
on
the
floor.
But
I
just
think
this
could
be
a
real
good
time
to
be
look
at
this
zone
and
be
sure
what
it
really
does
mean
to
people
whose
homes
back
up
to
it.
How.
P
We
need
to
contact
people
that
are
there
with
again
the
same
in
the
same
vein,
just
as
in
an
area
like
the
Westside,
where
people
have
lived
there
and
paid
property
taxes
and
committed
to
that
neighborhood
and
the
east
side.
The
same
thing
needs
to
be
done
and
we
need
to
look
at
people
who
have
committed
that
area
and
see
about
it
seems
like
they're.
They
feel
as
well
and
that's
fun.
P
I
P
A
A
You
know
there
it
whenever
you
have
zoning
is,
as
you
know,
Jane
very
well.
There's
issues.
There's
things
up
by
right.
This
zone
has
certain
things
by
right
and
the
bill
flexibility
there,
and
then
it
has
other
things
by
special
exception
by
ordinances,
variances,
that
you
can
put
something
there
now.
The
city
council
obviously
can
control
anything.
That's
that's
there
by
variance
or
many
changes,
but
if
it's
a
right,
a
matter
of
right.
P
P
P
P
A
P
A
P
A
P
P
A
A
C
The
staff
presented
that,
as
so,
you
could
there's
a
couple.
Different
things
is
that
you
could
just
amend
the
current
LP
ordinance
if
you
felt
that
would
be
to
be
necessary,
like
Ms
Vawter
suggested
you
have
our
lb
ordinance
limited
business,
which
is
seldom
used,
essentially
blue,
used
on
two
parcels
and
and
is
intended
to
be
a
neighborhood
friendly
district.
C
Whether
you
would
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
to
make
recommended
changes
to
that,
to
make
to
ensure
further
neighborhood
compatibility
and-
and
you
know,
hopefully
promote
additional
use
of
that
elsewhere
and
then
yeah
you
would
have.
The
like
number
four
is
you'd
have
the
kind
of
the
opportunity.
If
you
wish
to
to
cinch
it
could
do
that
and
then
revisit
the
actual
property
zoning
or
you
could
do
both
simultaneously.
C
A
D
A
Discussion,
discussion
on
that.
That
gives
us
a
lot
of
flexibility.
You
know
it
doesn't
it.
It
basically
puts
Rhines
group
to
put
a
little
more
information
to
us
place
on
it
up.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
next
month.
It
could
be
a
following
month
but
to
discuss
the
text
amendment
changing
it.
How
about
this
could
I
ask
you
to
amend
your
motion.
Yeah
all
right
request,
staff
to
notice
and
place
on
an
upcoming
agenda,
a
zoning
ordinance
text,
amendment
and/or.
R
A
R
We
were
appointed
on
this
board
to
to
look
at
Eichen
as
a
whole
and
I
think
it's
our
duty
to
see
areas
and
look
at
areas
of
potential
growth
and
economic
vitality.
I
think
that's
important
for
akin
to
continue
to
grow
so
I'm
I'm,
not
to
the
point
where
I
want
to
just
go
and
rezone
it
and
see
what
happens.
I,
agree,
I
think
we
should
I
think
we
can
do
this
collectively.
R
S
C
S
I
thought
a
lot
of
what
they're
we're
hearing
is
that
they're
not
really
opposed
to
it
altogether?
I
think
they're
really
worried
about.
What's
potentially
come
in
there
and
I.
Don't
blame
I
would
be
terrified
to
see
a
bank
come
in
my
backyard
or
a
liquor
store
or
convenience
store
in
that
regards,
but
I
think
Ryan
made
a
good
point.
I
mean
it
is
our
duty
to
kind
of
look
at
this.
Overall,
it's
make
the
best
path
forward.
A
Might
be
terrified
for
a
Wells
Fargo,
but
not
a
you
Bank
of
America.
Maybe,
however,
you
see
fit
yeah
I
think
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
look
at
it,
because
when
we're
talking
about
rezoning,
a
tech
doing
a
text
amendment
to
LP,
that's
a
pretty
daggone
big
thing:
that's
gonna
affect
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
pieces
of
property.
M
A
I
A
A
A
A
A
D
Chairman
I've
had
a
chance
to
look
through
this,
as
well
as
the
other
members
and
I,
don't
personally
see
where
any
changes
are
required
or
needed.
At
this
point,
line
indicated
that
we
have
had
some
complaints
or
whatever
complaints
or
formally
addressed
accounts
are
not
worthy
or
really
not
written.
C
No
I
have
written
place
we
received.
We
were
acting
on
complaints
from
neighbors
again
the
ideas
that
you
chose:
commercial
utility
trailers,
don't
necessarily
fall
under
the
recreational
vehicle
provision
of
the
ordinance
nor
oversize
vehicles,
so
they
can
be
parked
in
more
locations
on
a
residential
lot
and
we
did
have
some
complaints
regarding
utility
trailers
like
a
landscaping,
trailer,
for
instance,
parked
in
a
front
yard
and
the
ordinance
that
is
not
a
zoning
violation
for
the
ordinance.
D
We
still
do
have
that
ordinance
on
board
for
a
section
four
dot
2.5
regularly
in
the
parking
of
recreational
oversize.
An
emergency
vehicle
saw
on
my
belief
is
that
we
already
have
some
kind
of
regulation
in
place
in
the
city
of
Aitkin.
An
ordinance
is
in
place,
and
if
people
specifically
have
a
problem,
we
want
a
good
before
City
Council
and
they
could
so.
D
A
A
A
M
A
S
A
T
Tax
partial
application,
number
19,
that's
two:
zero,
zero,
zero
four
and
they
annexation
request
for
a
tax
partial
number
one:
zero
for
17-21
to
zero.
Now
current
zoning
RC
closed
on
rs.15,
our
move
that
we
send
us
to
Council
for
consideration.
It
is
in
playing
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
and
there
are
no
possible
condition
of
the
fruitiness
second.
A
A
C
A
Okay,
never
motions,
I
think
the
quit.
The
only
question
that
I
would
have
is:
what
do
we
want
to
do
with
the
access
to
the?
If
we
make
the
change
from
lb
2gb?
What
do
we
do
about
the
access
I
think
we
need
to
address
that
hunger
in
the
motion.
Whoever
wants
to
make
it
make
it
and
I
will
talk
about
it.
D
D
I
would
be
more
lives,
favorable
to
have
access
to
University
Parkway
and
make
that
a
stipulation
if
in
fact,
d-o-t
would
allow
it.
So
if
they
made
application,
they
do
t
they
said.
Yes,
you
can
have
access
to
University
of
Parkway
and
then
in
fact,
they'd
have
to
do
it.
If
do
T
recommended
unfavorably,
then
we
would
recommend
that
they
would
have
just
the
access
to
the
sod
right.
A
D
C
Just
to
clarify
mr.
chair
that
yeah,
if
you,
if
you
did
not
specifically
require
that
the
Lots
continue
to
be
required
to
access
brand
oak,
Grand,
Oaks,
Drive
granite,
sway,
sorry
only
then
it
would
fall
under
the
city's
normal
traffic
access
standards,
as
well
as
CD
OTS
encroachment
permit
process
as
to
where
they
would
allow
driveways
along
University.
Okay.
So.
S
I
M
C
A
That
is
now
we
got
I
and
J
will
deal
with
I
and
J.
At
the
same
time,
this
is
a
different
Street
Development
LLC
current
zoning
is
residential,
single-family
they're,
requesting
a
change
to
residential
single-family
attached
RSA
and
there's
they're,
requesting
approval
of
a
concept
plan
and
result
rezoning
request
for
a
9.3
acre
vacant
lot
with
the
intention
to
the
belf
143
lakh
townhome
project
residential
single-family
residential
single-family
attached
who's
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
this.
A
U
U
U
Explains
the
compatibility
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
it
satisfies
most
of
the
requirements
of
a
conceptual
plan
that
you
have
in
front
of
you.
There
are
a
couple
of
things
that
have
come
up
in
discussion
and
in
this
review
by
the
staff
item
number
one.
The
open
space
amount
needs
to
be
confirmed,
and
that
will
be
to
show
that
at
least
20%
open
space
is
included.
I
want
to
confirm
that
that
pavilion
was
or
was
not
included,
but
there
will
be
at
least
20%
open
space
item.
U
U
Real
closely,
you
can
see
the
driveways
of
these
units
and
especially
on
the
20
foot
wide
units.
We
probably
need
to
consider
some
narrowing
or
some
widening
of
the
driveways
for
those
units.
So
we
would
request
that
a
waiver
be
considered
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
you
guys
recommend
that
to
see
council
always
whether
City
Council
does
that
on
their
own.
But
we
would
request
a
waiver
of
the
driveway
widths
of
these
units
be
granted
or
considered
and
that
that's
been
fairly
common
on
these
type
of
units
that
we've
done
in
the
past.
U
And
going
back
to
the
20%
open
space
that
also
relates
to
the
elimination
of
an
entrance
island
at
the
entrances
of
the
public
streets.
We
also
met
twice
with
Public,
Safety
and
routing
of
aerial.
Fire
truck
showed
that
the
entrance
islands
would
prohibit
the
maneuverability
of
those
aerial
trucks
probably
hard
to
see
on
this
plans,
but
these
streets
are
26
feet
wide
face
to
face,
and
they
also
have
fairly
large
radiuses
on
the
inside
to
route
a
fire
truck
all
the
way
around
the
development
in
both
directions.
U
U
U
U
A
U
A
A
I
A
U
A
A
G
U
We
do
agree
with
all
the
possible
conditions
listed.
I
would
note
that
on
the
plan
is
not
not
easy
to
see
here,
but
there
is
a
perimeter
sidewalk
all
the
way
around
the
development,
with
sidewalks
coming
out
of
the
backs
of
these
units
connecting
to
that
perimeter.
Sidewalk.
Now
that
the
installation
of
that
sidewalk
is
subject
to
do
t
approval,
because
it's
in
the
right
away,
probably
certainly
would
like
to
do
that.
L
U
Finally,
there
was
well
a
couple
more
questions.
There
was
a
question
about
a
perimeter
fence
and
if
you
can
see
there
are
numerous
penetrations
of
what
would
be
a
perimeter
fence
along
these
public
streets,
the
three
public
streets
to--you
it
you
would
have
just
about
as
much
gate
as
you
would
have
fence.
So
the
the
developers
desire
is
not
to
fence
the
perimeter
of
the
project,
but.
A
U
U
U
B
U
S
S
S
U
A
D
U
B
B
U
W
W
A
I
B
A
A
I
W
W
W
The
amenity
building
you
know
well,
I
mean
the
structure
of
it.
You're
talking
about
the
outside
of
it
being
brick,
will
be
a
concrete
pad.
Yes,
it'd,
probably
be
a
concrete
pad.
I
mean
you
know,
we'll
have
a
fitness
area
in
there.
You
know
a
get-together
room,
probably
an
office
we'll
be
in
there
plus
you'll.
Have
your
pool
and
stuff
like
that.
So
of.
W
D
M
W
Think
you
know
I
think
Aikens
gonna
have
a
huge
growth.
You
know
I
think
every
you
know
you
listen
to
all
these
people
are
here
today
talk
about
how
they
love
to
downtown
look
at
the
downtown
I'm,
I'm
gonna.
Actually,
gonna
live
in
one
of
these,
so
I
do
think
you
know
the
Millennials,
and
you
know
some
of
the
younger
generations
would
really
like
to
live
in
it
and
that's
what
it's
all
about
is
you
know
catering
to
our
youth,
because
we
want
to
keep
our
youth
here,
because
that's
where
you're.
W
W
M
W
R
K
Q
Save
me
nothing
and
I
live
5:11,
Orangeburg,
Street,
okay,
six
is
two
years
when
you
come
in
on
the
corner:
Augsburg
and
Hampton
Avenue,
all
right,
there's
a
drainage
pipe
that
run
to
my
property,
the
water
coming
down,
Oxford
Street
and
it
goes
into
this
property.
What
you
plan
on
putting
a
housing
area,
what
you're
gonna
do
about
the
water
coming
at
to
this
distinction
box?
I!
A
U
U
We'll
have
to
pick
up
any
d-o-t
drainage
and
route
it
along
the
d-o-t
right
away
and
carry
it
all
of
our
drainage
is
going
to
go
down
to
the
corner
of
Hampton
and
Beaufort
and
discharge
over
toward
the
Willow
Run
industrial
park.
So
it
will
continue
to
pick
up.
Your
drainage
will
be
required
to
do
that.
Hey.
Q
W
Q
Q
Q
F
X
X
This
is
a
community.
We
call
it
Sugar,
Hill,
there's
two
village
to
her
heel,
ball,
town,
all
kind
of
different
communities
in
Aiken,
and
this
community
has
been
in
existence
for
60
years,
it's
up
and
the
property
that
they
are
talking
about
developing
certs,
as
it
was
a
natural
prophecy
fence
for
our
neighborhood.
X
W
A
X
So
my
concern
is,
if
the
if
somebody
decides
to
have
a
big
party,
where
are
they
gonna
park
and
if
they
do
park
they're
going
to
disrupt
disrupt
the
youth,
the
residents
that
already
live
there?
So
what
I'd
ask
you
to
do
this
evening
is
to
hold
off
on
approving
this
plan
and
let
us
do
a
little
bit
more
homework
and
go
from
there.
X
A
X
A
A
M
I
A
That
that's
we're
gonna
bring
in
that's
gonna,
bring
in
some
people
like
yourself
that
are
gonna,
be
responsible
people,
I,
hope,
okay,
cuz
and
I.
You
know
saw
some
eyes
got,
got
money,
don't
make
them
responsible.
That's
for
sure
people
are
responsible.
Rich
people
are
irresponsible.
I
mean
I,
understand
that
it.
X
X
A
A
I
U
U
I
I
U
U
U
L
U
So
much
junk
in
there,
but
that
is
at
least
one
one
to
two
parking
stalls
per
unit,
plus
a
parking
stall
out
on
the
driveway
approach
to
each
of
these
units
and
based
on
the
width.
There
could
be
one
to
two
parking
spaces
in
the
driveway,
so
there
could
be
up
to
four
parking
spaces
in
these
units.
There's
also
29
here
at
the
clubhouse
there's
ten
on
the
street
here,
making
39
right,
there's
five
over
here,
so
there's
44
potential
parking
spaces
to
prevent
people
from
parking
out
on
I.
I
U
I
I
A
I
U
D
Analytics
feed
as
well
Susan,
so
if
you
had
it's
26
feet
so
if
by
chance
you
had
cars
on
both
sides
and
the
car
was
6
feet
wide,
which
most
of
or
not
but
I
said
they
were
6
feet
wide.
Then
that
would
still
leave
you
based
on
26
feet
and
weird
lately
twelve
feet
for
a
fire
truck
ambulance
to
get
through
and
I.
Think
that
would
be
adequate.
D
A
Don't
care
how
many
you
got
in
the
middle
they're
gonna
park
close
because
that's
just
the
way
people
do.
Let
me
ask
you
a
quick
question
just
because
of
this
issue
that
we
had
off
a
silver
Bluff.
It
well
basically
and
I
argued
got
into
a
debate
with
them
about
this
retention
pond
now
you
know
what
happened.
You
know
what
happened
of
silver
Bluff,
that
guy
somehow
sold
that
retention
pond
and
all
that
stuff
and
and
and
and
look
what
happened.
Then
he
left
and
never
attention
pond
doesn't
work
right
now.
U
Situation
was
different
in
that
it
was
a
commercial
development.
Maybe
a
number
of
commercial
developments
using
that
pond,
which
would
not
be
accepted
by
the
city
of
Aitkin.
This
pond
would
be
deeded
to
the
city
of
Aitkin
could
work
out
some
arrangement
as
far
as
the
maintenance,
but
in
a
single-family
development,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
Ryan.
This
is
considered
a
single-family
develop.
U
Y
Now,
here
we're
talking
about
a
very
residential
area.
I
know
there
are
some
industrial
other
things
you
know
close
to
it,
but
the
people
I
think
really
want
to
maintain
the
nature
of
the
residential
area,
and
this
really
bothers
me
when
I
think
of
a
hundred
and
forty
three
units,
and
we
start
talking
about
the
parking
it
was
brought
up-
that
if
other
than
the
present
zoning,
they
could
put
50
houses
in
that
area.
Well,
let's
assume
that
each
of
those
houses
had
two
cars.
Y
That's
only
a
hundred
cars
if
we
go
to
for
the
proposed
hundred
and
forty
three
units
you're
looking
at
two
hundred
and
eighty
six
cars,
that's
just
for
the
residents,
that's
not
even
talking
about
you,
know:
visitors,
traffic
parties,
etc.
This
parking
situation
is
going
to
be
very,
very
critical,
but
the
traffic
alone
is
going
to
have
a
real
negative
effect
on
this
residential
district
and
I.
Think
you
really
have
to
consider
that
people
who
live
in
this
district
and
I
hope
more
than
come
and
speak
when
this
goes
before
City
Council,
I
I
know.
Y
We
talked
in
the
city
of
Madison
and
I
said:
I
came
from
Madison.
We
had
similar
problems,
but
I'm
here
in
a
canal
and
I
know
that
the
people
want
to
talk
about
the
expansion
of
the
business
district,
but
we
want
to
preserve
the
residential.
If
we
don't
preserve
the
residential
district,
we're
gonna
lose
our
city.
We're
gonna
lose
our
city,
because
you're
gonna
lose
the
people
who
are
going
to
want
to
move
away
from
this
encroachment,
and
this
is
not
the
businesses
that
we're
about
here.
Y
It's
just
putting
too
many
people
and
too
many
vehicles
in
too
small
an
area
is
that
I
don't
have
a
dog
in
this
fight
other
than
I
want
the
residential
neighborhood
to
be
preserved
as
much
as
possible
and
take
the
pressure
off
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
affected
by
unit
units
of
this
size.
143
units
on
that
block
is
an
awful
lot
and
you've
all
been
talking
about
traffic
problems
with
fire
engines,
etc.
But
if
you
double
from
143,
you
got
286.
Y
D
You
mr.
Naples
cannot
address
that
minute.
First
of
all,
welcome
to
hake
and
we're
glad
that
you
live
in
here.
There's
a
life,
not
a
lifelong
resident
by
toggling
just
about
it
here
and
I,
can
I'm
excited
to
see
the
growth
the
vacant
taking
is
just
not
by
itself
the
city
of
North,
Augusta
city
of
Augusta,
city
of
Columbia,
South
Carolina
as
a
whole.
Just
continues
to
grow,
grow,
grow,
grow,
grow
and
growth
is
good
and
we're
excited
about
that.
D
D
In
my
personal
opinion,
it's
the
north
east
side
of
town
and
this
apartment
complex
or
this
condominium
complex
right
here-
has
direct
access
to
Beaufort
Street,
which
is
exciting,
because
that
is
a
good
path
for
a
large
volume
of
cars
to
go
exit
and
to
enter
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
as
a
new
resident
that
you
knew
that
and
I'm
glad
you
moved
here
like
many
many
other
people
continue
to
do.
This
is
a
good
area.
If
the
more
you
learn
about
it,
I
think
you
might
agree
with
me.
Y
We
dealt
with
you
know,
growth
in
Madison
as
well
and
we're
much
smaller.
You
know
Geographic
stamped
than
the
size
of
this
town
of
this
county,
but
you
might
need
a
legitimate
traffic
study.
Then,
if
you
want
to
talk
about
Buford
being
you
know,
such
a
good
street
they
meet
might
need
a
traffic
study
to
go
along
with
their
application.
So
I'm
going
to
recommend
something
not
to
you
to
consider
before
crews
on
the
City
Council.
But
please
you
know,
don't
forget
the
residents
and
I
understand.
Y
V
I'd
like
to
piggyback
on
the
fact
about
traffic
the
street
that
I
currently
live
on
and
have
lived
all
my
life
is
being
used
as
a
Thruway.
It
is
direct
access
to
Buford
Street
for
not
only
city
trucks,
but
city
trucks
that
are
over
four
wheels,
hauling
back
hoes,
big
bio
trucks
that
come
up
and
down
the
street
and
I'm
only
a
block
and
a
half
away
from
the
proposed
development
that
we're
talking
about.
V
So
imagine
the
extra
traffic
of
people
flying
up
and
down
the
street
trying
to
get
to
work
trying
to
go
wherever
they
want
to
go
and
in
terms
of
an
HOA
fee
and
ownership
of
those
properties.
What's
to
stop
an
owner
from
purchasing
a
unit
paying
the
HOA
fees
and
still
renting
out
their
unit.
Is
there
some
type
of
covenant
in
your
plan
to
keep
that
from
happening.
V
I
understand
that
no
lies
I
do,
but
when
you
have
a
large
number
together
right
there
that's
rented
out
I
can
see.
We
had
a
rental
property
next
to
our
house
and
for
10
years
this
woman
just
plagued
the
neighborhood
with
Marty's
every
single
night
loud
people,
cars
on
the
yard
through
people
you
could
always
tell
what
car
was
coming.
The
house
that
the
car
coming
down
the
street
was
going
to
so
imagine
that
with
143
units.
V
I
V
V
I
V
No
I
would
not
like
a
Pacers
run,
but
but
that
I
don't
think
I.
Don't
think
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I
think
the
times
were
different
when
Pacers
Run
was
built
and
what's
going
on
now,
Pacers
one
was
was
let
go.
It
ran
down.
Mm-Hmm
he's
talking
about
something.
That's
a
lot
more
upscale
than
Pacers
run
was
ever
conceived
to
be
exactly.
V
Couldn't
have
never
gotten
to
this
scale,
even
if
somebody
had
gone
in
and
bought
it
and
tried
to
do
something
to
it.
So
there's
really
no
comparison
at
least
to
me,
but
I
would
prefer
yes
to
answer
your
question.
I
would
prefer
I,
agree,
I,
agree
with
you
so
and
then
the
drainage
I
know
you're,
saying
that
it's
going
to
drain
out
to
Beaufort,
but
here
we've
got
tomorrow
the
next
day
a
major
storm
coming
through.
So
the
added
responsibility
on
the
water
and
sewer
system,
as.
R
A
A
V
Q
Q
C
U
We
will
retain
and
control
our
water
on
site
and
we
will
reduce
the
rate
that
goes
through
the
pipe
from
this
down
stream.
We
don't
have
any
control
over
what
happens
upstream
and
the
conditions
of
the
pipe
system
to
the
west
of
us.
That's
that's
a
do
t
issue.
I
know
that
our
plans
will
be
reviewed
by
the
city
of
Aitkin
engineering
department,
they'll,
be
reviewed
by
South,
Carolina,
D,
Hecht
and
they'll
meet
all
the
requirements
of
those
agencies
for
approval.
U
It's
also
based
on
the
level
of
service
and
the
capacity
of
the
surrounding
streets
and
city
of
Aikens
ordinance
addresses
problem
areas
and
as
far
as
capacity
and
level
of
service
of
the
surrounding
streets,
the
this
is
not
a
problem
area.
We
don't
control
who
drives
on
the
street
and
we
don't
control
how
fast
they
drive
right
and
I'm,
not
trying
to
patronize
you
I'm,
just
making
the
point.
No.
A
That
that's
really
not
bad.
It
comes
off
the
bypass
there.
It's
clearly
closed
and
located
it.
I,
don't
see
that
as
the
traffic
as
being
a
major
issue.
Now
you
talked
about,
we
were
talking
about
parking
and
also
you
ride.
You
go
out
to
the
villages
with
the
village,
which
is
the
Woodside
creation
right
there
exactly
the
same
sort
of
design.
They
got
a
whole
lot
of
units
in
very
small
space.
I,
don't
know
how
they'd
have
where
they
park
there.
A
If
they
had
a
party
for
10
to
15,
you
know
where
I'm
talking
about
you
know
you
look
at
all
those
back.
They
got
back
in
transistor.
What
are
you
gonna?
Wear
they
put
15
cars.
Maybe
they
could
Park
them
down
there
in
that
center
area,
but
they
gonna
have
to
walk
three
or
four
hundred
yards
I
mean
that.
I
V
Just
think
that
a
lot
of
times
people
are
squeezing
a
lot
of
places
into
a
small
space,
that's
already
congested
and
we've
got
or
the
city
there's
land
to
be
had
I
guess,
maybe
maybe
not,
and
up
number
one
up,
19
away
a
little
bit
of
waste
from
the
city
that
that's
not
crammed
into
it
already.
Yeah.
A
J
Z
M
Z
I
W
R
Gerald
equation:
that's
that
application
number
19,
6
0,
0,
0,
2
application;
number
19,
9,
1,
0,
0,
1
concept,
plan,
rezone
and
concept
plan
approval,
request,
tax
parcel
number
1,
1,
0,
7,
0,
3,
0,
0,
1.
I
might
gonna
make
a
motion
to
recommend
the
City
Council
to
recommend
this
for
approval,
as
it
meets
the
comprehensive
plan.